**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Oct 23 02:59:57 2006 Oct 23 17:51:52 nice. I see the initng initiative is picking up steam. They are up to 0.6.4 now. Oct 23 17:52:11 It apparently speeds up bootup time quite a bit. Oct 23 17:57:04 isn't init-ng dead and upstart the new king? Oct 23 17:58:32 koen, what? Is it? Oct 23 17:59:05 the initng news page was last updated on 2006/09/18 and rev. 0.6.8 is out. Oct 23 17:59:53 upstart is what ubuntu is using Oct 23 18:00:10 I see. Oct 23 18:00:42 I don't see the point of starting yet another alternative. Poeple need to work together on stuff otherwise we'll never get anything done. Oct 23 18:01:20 to most people, open-source == bunch of unfinished software projects. :( Oct 23 18:02:00 I know that's the case but people that are not as technical or aware think that which is sad. Oct 23 18:02:03 s/to most people, // Oct 23 18:02:11 koen, have you tried either? Oct 23 18:02:19 hehehehe Oct 23 18:02:35 init-ng wasn't faster on my arm toy Oct 23 18:02:58 you stil; have the massive overhead of busybox being called a zillion times Oct 23 18:05:01 right now you can get a massive gain in boottime if you symlink bash to /bin/sh Oct 23 18:09:03 taster? tested you mean? Oct 23 18:09:18 Yeah, i have to ask them if ARM is supported. Oct 23 18:16:33 The guy on #initng said he runs it w/o problem and all his debian boxes. Oct 23 20:19:14 upstart does look good and even fedora is looking into it so that's good. Oct 23 22:10:11 how big can a kernel be for the nslu2? zImage.ok: file too large or too small: fatal error [N10NSLU2Image9FileErrorE] is what i get on an kernel update.. Oct 23 22:13:08 richiefrich: 1MB at the moment Oct 23 22:13:18 darn Oct 23 22:13:34 but we're working on using apex as a second stage bootloader to allow larger kernels Oct 23 22:13:37 i am at 1.1 Oct 23 22:13:43 :\ Oct 23 22:14:05 and must it be named .ok Oct 23 22:14:38 richiefrich: which build system are you using? and which firmware? Oct 23 22:14:44 gentoo Oct 23 22:14:50 the lastest Oct 23 22:15:07 no idea then. The gentoo guys never tell the rest of the nslu2-linux project what they are doing. Oct 23 22:15:08 i just see a german howto Oct 23 22:15:15 ok Oct 23 22:15:22 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-417105.html Oct 23 22:15:25 i see that Oct 23 22:15:28 upslug2 --target=00:13:10:d6:1d:f2 --kernel=/home/roman/nslu/nslu-kernel/linux-2.6.14.3/zImake.ok Oct 23 22:15:35 so i am guessing .ok Oct 23 22:15:41 upslug2 does not require any particular filename Oct 23 22:15:46 ok Oct 23 22:15:53 but ty on the size Oct 23 22:16:03 now i need to rebuild it Oct 23 22:16:05 richiefrich: have you checked www.nslu2-linux.org for info? Oct 23 22:16:17 yes Oct 23 22:17:00 i just cant use nfs at the moment i dont have the nfsd module on the kernel i am on Oct 23 22:17:08 so thats why i am rebuilding Oct 23 22:17:24 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Info/BootFlash Oct 23 22:17:41 that shows the partition sizes Oct 23 22:18:15 ok i see ty **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Oct 24 02:59:57 2006