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Apr 20 11:33:38 <Matty__H> yuv422; I've made a start on a getWixPnP GUI
Apr 20 11:33:48 <Yuv422> Hey Matt
Apr 20 11:33:49 <Yuv422> cool
Apr 20 11:34:08 <Yuv422> any screenshots?
Apr 20 11:34:53 <Matty__H> I'll see if I can pop one somewhere - but it is far from polished
Apr 20 11:35:13 <Yuv422> cool
Apr 20 11:42:04 <Matty__H> http:\\ozi4ums.homedns.org\downloads\getwizpnpgui.jpg
Apr 20 11:42:38 <Matty__H> it uses getWizPnP
Apr 20 11:43:21 <Matty__H> Dave and I are working on it as a joint project
Apr 20 11:43:42 <Yuv422> cool
Apr 20 11:44:01 <Yuv422> I'm just adding filesizes into my WizMac app
Apr 20 11:44:07 <Yuv422> screenshot looks good
Apr 20 11:44:14 <Matty__H> you're too kind
Apr 20 11:44:32 <Yuv422> :)
Apr 20 11:44:45 <Matty__H> but I did have some excellent examples to learn from
Apr 20 11:44:49 <Matty__H> ;-)
Apr 20 11:44:54 <Yuv422> The IT crowd is a funny show
Apr 20 11:44:58 <Yuv422> :)
Apr 20 11:45:38 <Matty__H> "hav ya tried turnin it off an on again" - love that line
Apr 20 11:45:55 <Yuv422> hehe did you see this weeks ep?
Apr 20 11:46:28 <Matty__H> where they go on a date to a show with the guy who is trying to not be gay
Apr 20 11:46:31 <Matty__H> yes
Apr 20 11:46:56 <Yuv422> yeah I like the bit where he confesses he went out with her because he thought she looked like a man
Apr 20 11:47:06 <Matty__H> LOL
Apr 20 11:48:54 <Matty__H> do you get the filesize from the stub file?
Apr 20 11:49:21 <Yuv422> I'm getting it from the trunc file
Apr 20 11:49:32 <Matty__H> sorry, trunc file
Apr 20 11:49:44 <Matty__H> good idea to have that
Apr 20 11:50:00 <Yuv422> (trunc size / 24) - 1 + size of last chunk
Apr 20 11:50:16 <Yuv422> whoops I forgot the * bit
Apr 20 11:50:36 <Yuv422> * 33554432
Apr 20 11:51:09 <Yuv422> ((trunc size / 24) - 1) * 33554432 + size of last chunk
Apr 20 11:51:28 <Yuv422> The numbers get pretty big though
Apr 20 11:52:46 <Matty__H> I think I'm a little while off looking at filesizes
Apr 20 11:53:04 <Matty__H> the data needs to get sorted into columns
Apr 20 11:53:49 <Matty__H> before I can do anything else
Apr 20 11:54:03 <Matty__H> then I can work on getting the right file etc...
Apr 20 11:54:11 <Yuv422> ah k
Apr 20 11:54:29 <Matty__H> the screenshot doesn't have columns
Apr 20 11:54:47 <Matty__H> I guess you could call it a table
Apr 20 11:55:55 <Matty__H> Have you seen the reports about that company that is selling Mac Clones?
Apr 20 11:56:05 <Yuv422> yeah
Apr 20 11:56:10 <Yuv422> hehe
Apr 20 11:56:17 <Yuv422> I'm looking for a new mac
Apr 20 11:56:18 <Matty__H> Interesting concept
Apr 20 11:56:27 <Yuv422> my G5 is looking a bit long in the tooth
Apr 20 11:56:30 <Yuv422> yeah
Apr 20 11:56:51 <Yuv422> I  think it is in breach of the apple software licence
Apr 20 11:57:08 <Matty__H> to install it on anything but a Mac?
Apr 20 11:57:52 <Yuv422> yeah
Apr 20 11:58:02 <Matty__H> They had to build an EFI interface for OSX to work with as well didn't they?
Apr 20 11:58:19 <Yuv422> EFI?
Apr 20 11:59:00 <Matty__H> The new bios
Apr 20 11:59:11 <Yuv422> ah k
Apr 20 11:59:19 <Yuv422> that's right
Apr 20 11:59:26 <Yuv422> apple uses that new bios system
Apr 20 11:59:59 <Matty__H> I think they were the only ones that moved to it, Vista was supposed to, but...
Apr 20 12:00:11 <Yuv422> legacy
Apr 20 12:00:14 <Yuv422> support
Apr 20 12:00:19 <Yuv422> the bane of windows
Apr 20 12:00:53 <Yuv422> apple just says "tough luck, you'll need to buy our new hardware/operating system" ;-)
Apr 20 12:02:13 <Matty__H> There is a website - Open Firmware
Apr 20 12:02:53 <Matty__H> nah - trying to find it
Apr 20 12:04:49 <Matty__H> they had a list of all the supported hardware so you could build your own Mac clone
Apr 20 12:05:11 <Yuv422> nice
Apr 20 12:05:21 <Yuv422> like an IBM compatible machine
Apr 20 12:06:12 <Matty__H> yep
Apr 20 12:07:31 <Matty__H> http://www.osx86project.org/
Apr 20 12:08:14 <Yuv422> obviously matrix fans
Apr 20 12:08:47 <Matty__H> you don't think they might be fans of Alice in Wonderland ;-)
Apr 20 12:09:28 <Matty__H> Be an interested project - probably not that easy
Apr 20 12:09:35 <Matty__H> sorry, interesting
Apr 20 12:10:12 <Yuv422> and you'd be crossing your fingers every time up updated.
Apr 20 12:11:48 <Matty__H> especially if it played an important role - ie dev machine
Apr 20 12:12:14 <Matty__H> some of the PCs I have around here might work
Apr 20 12:12:32 <Matty__H> even one of the notebooks will!
Apr 20 12:13:00 <Matty__H> I wonder if you can run OSX in a VM yet
Apr 20 12:13:09 <Matty__H> I've never looked
Apr 20 12:13:11 <Yuv422> I think you can
Apr 20 12:14:11 <Matty__H> I recently switched to ubuntu, and run a vm windows in that on my notebook
Apr 20 12:15:11 <Matty__H> It'd be cool to be able to run a few different OSs of the same hardware
Apr 20 12:15:34 <Yuv422> yeah, have you seen parallels?
Apr 20 12:15:45 <Yuv422> you can run windows side by side with os x
Apr 20 12:15:52 <Yuv422> It's pretty neat
Apr 20 12:16:05 <Yuv422> you can even share the apple window manager
Apr 20 12:16:12 <Matty__H> not parallels, but I've played with coLinux - is that a similar sort of thing?
Apr 20 12:16:20 <Yuv422> probably
Apr 20 12:16:31 <Matty__H> I'll have a look at it
Apr 20 12:20:52 <Matty__H> got to go sort some stuff out - I'll catch you later
Apr 20 12:22:10 <Yuv422> cya
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