**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 14 02:59:57 2008
May 14 08:24:55 * Yuv422 finally has internet again!
May 14 08:25:07 <tonymy01_> aha, hii eric
May 14 08:25:20 <tonymy01_> lots has happened in wiz space recently
May 14 08:25:24 <Yuv422> Hey Tony
May 14 08:25:41 <Yuv422> How's things?
May 14 08:25:44 <Yuv422> yeah ice remote
May 14 08:25:54 <tonymy01_> yep, finally
May 14 08:26:11 <Yuv422> I still use wizremote. ;-)
May 14 08:26:19 <Yuv422> I'm getting a qnap nas server
May 14 08:26:22 <tonymy01_> i used it also when in germany
May 14 08:26:26 <Yuv422> so I can run it 24x7
May 14 08:26:28 <tonymy01_> i found a quirk....
May 14 08:26:37 <Yuv422> ah k, what's that?
May 14 08:26:45 <tonymy01_> my wiz shutdown to standby after doing a reboot
May 14 08:26:59 <Yuv422> hmm
May 14 08:27:06 <Yuv422> I think I had that happen once to me
May 14 08:27:07 <tonymy01_> well, it may have been that, or it may have been a power fail?
May 14 08:27:14 <Yuv422> not sure why
May 14 08:27:38 <tonymy01_> dunno 100% because the toppy and wiz are on a ups powered by an old car battery and it can give them about 20mins juice or so
May 14 08:27:48 <tonymy01_> but both had the correct time
May 14 08:28:17 <tonymy01_> doesn't matter anyway, as i am still keeping my toppy workhorse running
May 14 08:28:39 <tonymy01_> however the hdd ran out of space on the wiz and i missed a BSG and 4400 ep
May 14 08:28:48 <Yuv422> I've rebooted with the script numerous times
May 14 08:28:54 <Yuv422> maybe you hit a wiz bug
May 14 08:28:54 <tonymy01_> now running a 500G in it
May 14 08:29:01 <Yuv422> which hung the system on shutdown
May 14 08:29:02 <tonymy01_> yeah, quite possibly
May 14 08:29:08 <tonymy01_> no, it didn't hang
May 14 08:29:14 <tonymy01_> i had control of it after it rebooted
May 14 08:29:20 <Yuv422> I accidently added two timers at the same time the other day
May 14 08:29:34 <Yuv422> the wiz booted happily
May 14 08:29:41 <tonymy01_> but then the next day i went to login and couldn't, and when i got home i found it in standby
May 14 08:29:48 <Yuv422> it onlly displayed the first timer in the timer list
May 14 08:30:16 <tonymy01_> peter has hinted the xml for the timers has changed a bit with the new f/w, i will have to have a better look one day
May 14 08:30:58 <Yuv422> did you see they've stripped most of the busybox tools out of the new firmwares
May 14 08:31:02 <Yuv422> :(
May 14 08:31:05 <tonymy01_> eek, no?
May 14 08:31:07 <Yuv422> I guess that had to happen
May 14 08:31:26 <tonymy01_> peter has been tracking free space, and watching it dwindle to nothing
May 14 08:31:34 <Yuv422> yeah no wget or more
May 14 08:32:09 <tonymy01_> if i could work out how to export the PATH then I would simply copy the old busybox to the hdd
May 14 08:32:52 <tonymy01_> i have just cross compiled a bloated busybox for my asus router, and it works, so might try the same for the wiz
May 14 08:33:09 <Yuv422> when the major outstanding features/bugs get implemented we should start leaning on bw for better access to the system.
May 14 08:33:24 <Yuv422> source + timer api + HDD apps
May 14 08:33:25 <Yuv422> etc
May 14 08:34:29 <Yuv422> I think we could have a neat system going if we can get BW to make their firmware layouts a little more thirdparty friendly
May 14 08:34:52 <Yuv422> we probably shouldn't distract them from bug/feature fixes ATM though
May 14 08:36:29 <tonymy01_> yeah, a few ones getting bad publicity, the corrupt filename "stat" file
May 14 08:36:51 <Yuv422> I was meaning to check my HDD
May 14 08:36:59 <tonymy01_> (well, layman say "why does my wiz not play back the recording, I tried everything so I ended up deleting it")
May 14 08:37:00 <Yuv422> I have an erronous file
May 14 08:37:10 <Yuv422> I was going to see if it is missing the stat file
May 14 08:37:26 <tonymy01_> yeah, i originally called this the "0 byte" stat file, as transferring with Wizfx causes that
May 14 08:37:54 <tonymy01_> however, looking at the mounted HDD, I saw there was a proper stat file, but named "at"
May 14 08:38:46 <tonymy01_> it would be a piece of cake to write a util to recursively look for these corruptions and fix them.... but people seemed to be afraid of hacks
May 14 08:39:08 <Yuv422> I'd like to know what the stat file is used for
May 14 08:39:23 <Yuv422> I wonder if it is some kind of lock
May 14 08:39:43 <tonymy01_> hey, i just thought of a way of enabling the fix for laymen...
May 14 08:39:51 <Yuv422> used to protect the recording from access on another thread
May 14 08:40:03 <Yuv422> what's that
May 14 08:40:20 <tonymy01_> swap the fsck binary for one that does the recursive check/fix and then triggers an fsck
May 14 08:41:14 <Yuv422> you would need to mount and unmount the partition
May 14 08:41:22 <Yuv422> but that's not hard
May 14 08:41:37 <tonymy01_> however, last time i had a fiddle with making umount a shell script to umount the drive, it wasn't too successful.   I think I drew the conclusion that the wiz may not even use those utils to do the mount/unmount
May 14 08:42:00 <tonymy01_> but now not 100% sure....
May 14 08:43:04 <tonymy01_> maybe i could do a swaproot (with all the usual wiz files sitting on the HDD) and then see if i can fiddle, as it is a pain doing rebuilds and f/w flashes to keep trying out these things
May 14 08:44:04 <tonymy01_> is it called pivotroot actually...?
May 14 08:44:32 <tonymy01_> hey peter
May 14 08:45:00 <peteru> Evening.
May 14 08:45:04 <Yuv422> Hey Peter
May 14 08:46:18 <tonymy01_> bailing, bbl8r
May 14 08:46:24 <Yuv422> k cya
May 14 08:46:52 <peteru> That was quick ;-)
May 14 08:50:46 <peteru> Stupid Dell BIOS! I just dropped in extra 2GB of memory and it maps it in such a way that the kernel can only use 3200MB. The A-bit BIOS mapped memory such that I could get about 3750MB
May 14 08:51:32 <peteru> I guess I'll have to build a 64-bit system to get at the extra 800MB.
May 14 08:54:12 <Yuv422> I was trying to get an adaptec sata raid controller to work for a friend last night
May 14 08:54:27 <Yuv422> turned out to be an issue with the motherboard
May 14 08:54:35 <Yuv422> something to do with pci routing
May 14 08:54:56 <Yuv422> I've been out of the HW game for awhile.
May 14 08:55:09 <Yuv422> I just turn my mac on and off I go.
May 14 08:55:23 <peteru> Ah, yes. The older Adaptec cards would only work with certain IRQ numbers. Changing PCI slots would often help.
May 14 08:55:38 <Yuv422> albeit a little slowly
May 14 08:56:17 <Yuv422> yeah we tried changing slots and disabling other onboard functionality
May 14 08:56:51 <Yuv422> In the end he just swapped out the motherboard and it all worked correctly
May 14 08:58:14 <peteru> I've put together another NAS server on the weekend, using spare parts lying around. It's a dual cpu, dual power supply machine with 13 SCSI devices on 3 SCSI buses and four IDE devices on two buses ;-)
May 14 08:58:45 <Yuv422> nice
May 14 08:58:56 <Yuv422> what's the total usable space?
May 14 08:59:25 <peteru> There are 12 drives that run at 15,000 RPM, so it's a bit warm and noisy, but being UltraSCSI, it's VERY fast.
May 14 08:59:35 <Yuv422> I guess you have high bandwidth needs in the AV industry
May 14 09:00:23 <Yuv422> Is fibre-channel any good?
May 14 09:00:37 <peteru> They're only 36GB drives, so the capacity is just over 300GB on the SCSI side :-(
May 14 09:01:19 <peteru> FC was good when it was new, but it's always been overpriced.
May 14 09:02:21 <peteru> I've setup a couple of pretty chunky FC-AL installations and the main advantage is scalability. You can just plug devices into a switch.
May 14 09:04:26 <peteru> Had a 16 drive DLT robotic library with 3 FC-AL loops as well as a "small" EMC SAN with a few TB and a whole bunch of Sun servers, backing up about 400 servers in the datacenter.
May 14 09:05:15 <peteru> As always, the biggest pain in the butt was bloody Veritas software.
May 14 09:05:34 <Yuv422> hehe
May 14 09:06:53 <peteru> Eventually I got it to work properly here in Sydney and then I did similar deployments in Tokyo, Singapore and Hong Kong. I think the guys in London and New York eventually ended up copying my design as well, but I left the company by then.
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