**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 10 02:59:56 2008
Jun 10 12:14:30 <Yuv422> Argh! X11 keeps crashing Inkscape
Jun 10 12:14:40 <tonymy01_> ????????
Jun 10 12:14:42 <tonymy01_> english
Jun 10 12:14:47 <tonymy01_> :-)
Jun 10 12:14:53 <tonymy01_> g'day eric
Jun 10 12:15:10 <Yuv422> my X11 server keeps crashing while I'm working on my wizmac icon
Jun 10 12:15:11 <tonymy01_> i know what X11 is generally
Jun 10 12:15:14 <Yuv422> hey Tony
Jun 10 12:15:22 <Yuv422> xwindows
Jun 10 12:15:26 <tonymy01_> yep
Jun 10 12:15:44 <Yuv422> hehe whoops miss read you there
Jun 10 12:15:45 <tonymy01_> how does it work with the Mac however?
Jun 10 12:16:04 <Yuv422> it's just another app
Jun 10 12:16:15 <Yuv422> that launches on the dock
Jun 10 12:16:20 <tonymy01_> but why are you using that, do you have a unix box somewhere
Jun 10 12:16:47 <Yuv422> I'm using it to run inkscape natively on the mac
Jun 10 12:17:13 <Yuv422> I also use it for gimp
Jun 10 12:17:24 <tonymy01_> gee those macs seem flexible lately :-)
Jun 10 12:17:46 <Yuv422> all singing and dancing
Jun 10 12:18:11 <Yuv422> I'm downloading a later version of the X11 package
Jun 10 12:18:18 <Yuv422> but it's taking forever!
Jun 10 12:20:03 <tonymy01_> i just thought i'd have a quick look on the forums before settling down to the last 2 weeks of top gear.. so see you later
Jun 10 12:20:29 <tonymy01_> strange that my phantom user is still here (with the underscore).  I haven't rebooted my pc in days
Jun 10 12:20:47 <tonymy01_> I wish trillian would handle IRC a bit better
Jun 10 12:20:51 <Yuv422> :)
Jun 10 12:20:58 <Yuv422> have fun watching top gear
Jun 10 12:20:59 <Yuv422> :)
Jun 10 12:21:14 <tonymy01_> i think it is the start of the new season
Jun 10 12:21:28 <Yuv422> yeah this weeks was pretty cool
Jun 10 12:21:29 <tonymy01_> (or did i watch the 1st ep of that a couple of weeks ago....)
Jun 10 12:21:54 <tonymy01_> shame that SBS didn't continue putting the mega-old eps on
Jun 10 12:22:15 <tonymy01_> i wanted to see when the fat salesguy left and the boring guy came :-)
Jun 10 12:22:50 <tonymy01_> but they only did one retro season for some reason?
Jun 10 12:24:15 <tonymy01_> ok, putting names to silly descriptions:   I wanted to see why Jason Dawe left and James May came on?
Jun 10 12:24:56 <Yuv422> hehe I only know the latter as captin slow
Jun 10 12:25:01 <tonymy01_> As they were babbling on about getting someone more boring in a competition of some sort in 2002, and then, bingo, James shows up :-)
Jun 10 12:25:01 <Yuv422> captain
Jun 10 12:25:36 <tonymy01_> The cool thing about the retro eps that SBS put on was the new (my shape) STi was tested, mind you they rubbished it a bit
Jun 10 12:26:25 <Yuv422> what do you think of the new impreza shape?
Jun 10 12:26:35 <tonymy01_> dunno yet..
Jun 10 12:26:50 <tonymy01_> much better for a hatch than any of the previous models though
Jun 10 12:26:58 <Yuv422> yeah
Jun 10 12:27:10 <Yuv422> but it's also lost its distinctive look
Jun 10 12:27:15 <Yuv422> in the process
Jun 10 12:27:24 <tonymy01_> i loved my PulsarSSS hatch (1991 model), last of the decent ones before Nissan started major cutbacks
Jun 10 12:27:47 <tonymy01_> but the Impreza hatch was simply tacking on a bit onto the back of the sedan, and looked really fugly
Jun 10 12:28:15 <tonymy01_> not to mention that the sedan had a wider track and slightly pumped guards
Jun 10 12:28:25 <tonymy01_> all the road tests etc were only ever on the sedan
Jun 10 12:28:54 <tonymy01_> but now finally they are making the hatch their priority, and the sedan may have a boot tacked onto it next year :-)
Jun 10 12:29:21 <tonymy01_> but yep, it is certainly nothing like anything previously done, it has lost all bar the scoop and badge
Jun 10 12:29:30 <Yuv422> hatch is more practical that's for sure
Jun 10 12:29:44 <tonymy01_> if I didn't have a mortgage now I would probably consider updating
Jun 10 12:29:59 <tonymy01_> but maybe look at the Golf Gti thingy
Jun 10 12:30:29 <Yuv422> hehe mortgages yay! :(
Jun 10 12:30:41 <tonymy01_> hehe
Jun 10 12:31:11 <tonymy01_> my 3 year interest fixed period is about to expire, it will be a shock to the system with the sudden hike in rates since i got the load
Jun 10 12:31:12 <tonymy01_> lon
Jun 10 12:31:20 <tonymy01_> loan... i will get it right in a sec
Jun 10 12:32:01 <Yuv422> I've yet to get into the market
Jun 10 12:32:13 <Yuv422> It's a bit of a scary prospect
Jun 10 12:32:54 <tonymy01_> i was renting by myself, and they tried to put the rate up well over 10% (and this was 3 years ago LOL!), and I just got damn sick of 6monthly rate rises
Jun 10 12:33:17 <tonymy01_> so am now paying 3times more to own a home....doh
Jun 10 12:33:41 <Yuv422> but you can drill in whichever wall you like!
Jun 10 12:34:20 <tonymy01_> hehe, except it is a bloody villa, and my (4 only) neighbours said "no, you can't walk on the roof to fix holes, remove leaves etc"
Jun 10 12:34:57 <tonymy01_> and told me I couldn't keep this dog I was looking after (even though it was an absolute angel, she never barked or did anything to annoy them)
Jun 10 12:35:10 <Yuv422> Ouch!
Jun 10 12:35:13 <Yuv422> that's no good
Jun 10 12:35:36 <tonymy01_> they told me the strata bi-laws of course only after seeing me walking her daily about 7 months ago
Jun 10 12:36:26 <Yuv422> you'll have to get a goldfish
Jun 10 12:36:32 <tonymy01_> hehe
Jun 10 12:37:07 <tonymy01_> if i wasn't living by myself I would have fought them a bit to keep her, but sometimes i have to go interstate for work, so it was always a hassle to find someone to look after her anyway.
Jun 10 12:37:39 <Yuv422> what breed was she?
Jun 10 12:37:50 <tonymy01_> as apparently the bi-laws were never officially signed/sanctioned... but still, normal strata laws states "they can't tell you you cannot have a pet, but you have to get permission from all"...
Jun 10 12:37:56 <tonymy01_> A greyhound believe it or not
Jun 10 12:38:18 <Yuv422> hehe that's a rather strange choice of pet. ;-)
Jun 10 12:38:27 <tonymy01_> from GAP (an organisation that rescues them from getting made into butcher meat/whatever after their racing career is over)
Jun 10 12:38:39 <Yuv422> ah k
Jun 10 12:38:54 <tonymy01_> i thought so too, my German gf was the one who wanted to do it (foster one for a while)
Jun 10 12:39:07 <Yuv422> I had an alaskan malamute when I was growing up
Jun 10 12:39:15 <Yuv422> she was a great dog
Jun 10 12:39:30 <Yuv422> my gf is a cat person
Jun 10 12:39:47 <Yuv422> I'm allergic to cats. :(
Jun 10 12:39:55 <tonymy01_> but she was such an amazing dog, i grew up with many many dogs (our family showed them when we were kids), and I just would have never thought a lanky skinny dog would be more loving than a furry papillon lap dog
Jun 10 12:40:32 <tonymy01_> but man, she was a 26kg lap dog, greys actually have very little energy, they sleep about 99% of the day (on the bed, couch, bed, bed, couch)
Jun 10 12:40:41 <tonymy01_> hehe
Jun 10 12:41:04 <Yuv422> so 1% of the time they race flatout. :)
Jun 10 12:42:01 <tonymy01_> yep... i have tried running with her (on a lead of course) and she starts off trotting which I can just keep up with, but then she went faster, and this was too much... and then would stop while I still had a tonne of momentum
Jun 10 12:42:22 <tonymy01_> 2nd fastest land animal according to one or two people...
Jun 10 12:43:22 <Yuv422> I'm going to have to go for a bit
Jun 10 12:43:34 <Yuv422> installing X11 requires all my apps to close
Jun 10 12:43:37 <tonymy01_> yep
Jun 10 12:43:38 <Yuv422> for some reason
Jun 10 12:43:44 <tonymy01_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_May  is a classic actually
Jun 10 12:43:50 <tonymy01_> what he did in autocar
Jun 10 12:44:05 <tonymy01_> so when you are up and running, have a look if you are vaguely interested
Jun 10 12:45:06 <Yuv422> hehe just looking now
Jun 10 12:45:18 <tonymy01_> look at the image for confirmation LOL
Jun 10 12:46:07 <tonymy01_> i can't believe fans actually discovered that...
Jun 10 12:46:17 <tonymy01_> some people are just born freaks I think
Jun 10 12:47:49 <Yuv422> hehe that is pretty ccool
Jun 10 12:48:01 <Yuv422> not really something you should get fired for though
Jun 10 12:48:05 <tonymy01_> Captain Slow has a sense of humour
Jun 10 12:48:34 <tonymy01_> i love the 3 car challenge they did a few weeks ago, thru mountains of italy etc
Jun 10 12:48:57 <Yuv422> yeah in the race spec car
Jun 10 12:48:59 <tonymy01_> they should have gone to Germany, I kept screaming out "Germany" at the TV screen everytime they were pondering where to go next
Jun 10 12:49:17 <tonymy01_> i guess this means i did see the 1st ep of the new season
Jun 10 12:49:33 <tonymy01_> ok, well you should get your x env working, always fun and games
Jun 10 12:49:52 <Yuv422> I think the robin reliant space shuttle is still my favorite ep
Jun 10 12:49:54 <Yuv422> righto
Jun 10 12:49:55 <tonymy01_> (I have had many batlles getting Exceed and/or Xwin32 working to Sun/HP servers in the past)
Jun 10 12:49:58 <Yuv422> installing now
Jun 10 12:50:27 <Yuv422> hmm not shutdown so far
Jun 10 12:50:34 <Yuv422> not/no
Jun 10 12:51:05 <tonymy01_> comeon, it is a mac, not a winblows box, it should only rarely need to shut down lol
Jun 10 12:51:42 <Yuv422> that's what I thought untill I was installing something yesterday and the installer terminated all my running apps with extreme force.
Jun 10 12:51:53 <tonymy01_> lol, hope nothing was open
Jun 10 12:52:54 <tonymy01_> LOL YUV422 has signed off
Jun 10 12:54:03 <Yuv422> that one just needed my to logout
Jun 10 12:54:08 <Yuv422> my/me
Jun 10 12:55:41 <tonymy01_> anyway, time is ticking on, catch you later
Jun 10 12:55:48 <Yuv422> righto
Jun 10 12:55:49 <Yuv422> cya
Jun 10 13:14:09 <tonymy01_> ok, i am selling my house and getting that Audi
Jun 10 13:53:45 <Yuv422> hehe
Jun 10 13:54:05 <Yuv422> was it only 70,000 pounds?
Jun 10 14:22:29 <CIA-6> openwiz: efry * r8 wizmac/trunk/ (APPL.icns gfx/wizmac_logo.svg): Added new WizMac Logo. (WIP)
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