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Dec 25 07:26:35 <CIA-13> nbd * r5898 /trunk/target/linux/atheros-2.6/ (12 files in 3 dirs): Add support for Atheros SoC (used in Fonera, Meraki) - Merry Christmas, everybody :)
Dec 25 07:39:23 <Bartman007> Merry Christmas :-)
Dec 25 08:33:41 <CIA-13> nbd * r5899 /trunk/ (16 files in 15 dirs): store the default kernel version for our ports in a single place (target makefiles can still override it if necessary)
Dec 25 09:02:10 <xrg_> Merry Christmas!
Dec 25 10:50:42 <armijn> Kaloz: could you mail your cellphone number to my brother, so you can meet up?
Dec 25 10:59:32 <Kaloz> armijn: sure
Dec 25 11:00:09 <armijn> Kaloz: don't forget to CC me :)
Dec 25 11:02:21 <armijn> Kaloz: thnx
Dec 25 11:03:04 <Kaloz> np :)
Dec 25 11:04:29 <armijn> I really hope you can get the Sitecom thing working before the end of the congress
Dec 25 11:04:36 <armijn> :P
Dec 25 11:22:42 <Kaloz> armijn: i guess we will
Dec 25 11:41:32 <armijn> Kaloz: how come you are so sure? :)
Dec 25 11:42:53 <Kaloz> well, because it's an older design, so I'm sure there will be no surprises :)
Dec 25 11:43:04 <armijn> well, I couldn't get rc5 working on it
Dec 25 11:43:16 <armijn> well, it has been installed on it, but it just sends lots of crap on the network
Dec 25 11:43:36 <Kaloz> I didn't say it won't need support, just I'm pretty sure we can get it work easily
Dec 25 11:43:55 <armijn> ok, just make it work :)
Dec 25 11:45:46 <Kaloz> did you send the mimo netgear at the end?
Dec 25 11:46:20 <armijn> the Atheros?
Dec 25 11:46:41 <armijn> the wpn824 or so?
Dec 25 11:47:08 <Kaloz> yep, that one
Dec 25 11:47:16 <armijn> yeah, it's in the box as well
Dec 25 11:47:56 <Kaloz> fine :) will give a shot of booting linux on it
Dec 25 11:48:41 <armijn> I'm really wondering what the ZyXEL I sent is based on
Dec 25 11:48:43 <armijn> I think it is AR7
Dec 25 12:14:34 <armijn> hm, wondering if I should install the SVN version on my WRT54G today, or wait a few days :)
Dec 25 12:53:08 <Kaloz> i guess the second :)
Dec 25 12:57:52 <armijn> I can live with that
Dec 25 12:58:40 <armijn> I guess the main challenge will be to keep nbd awake, so he can work
Dec 25 13:05:47 <Kaloz> haha, doubt that
Dec 25 13:05:48 <Kaloz> :)
Dec 25 13:06:18 <armijn> he will work even when asleep?
Dec 25 13:06:21 <armijn> wow
Dec 25 13:06:24 <armijn> he *is* hardcore
Dec 25 13:06:39 <Kaloz> probably the main channelges will be to get up and get there if one of us has a hangover
Dec 25 13:08:17 <Kaloz> (luckily that I won't be that one, I never have hangovers - genetic gift I guess)
Dec 25 13:08:42 <armijn> no, that's probably the palinka..it hardens you
Dec 25 13:10:12 <Kaloz> lol :)
Dec 25 13:39:20 <armijn> http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/ got a donation too
Dec 25 13:40:00 <armijn> in the RDC based device you will get is also a Ralink based mini-PCI card
Dec 25 13:40:20 <armijn> it would be interesting to see if you could get it working in any of the other devices
Dec 25 13:40:48 <Kaloz> yep
Dec 25 13:41:20 <armijn> I just saw the FreeWRT webbuilder
Dec 25 13:41:42 <armijn> pretty cool stuff
Dec 25 13:42:02 <Kaloz> old idea :) also, with a lot of users i don't know how good idea it is
Dec 25 13:42:05 <armijn> I hope they will realize once they get succesful they will need a good infrastructure for building things
Dec 25 13:42:12 <Kaloz> (and we have way more users) :P
Dec 25 13:42:41 <armijn> well, it can be done, but not really with your current setup
Dec 25 13:42:52 <Kaloz> I'm more tempted to get somehow an ar6001 based sdio wifi
Dec 25 13:43:32 <armijn> are there any devices that have that?
Dec 25 13:43:46 <Kaloz> dunno, it's really new
Dec 25 13:44:03 <armijn> right, I'm only in contact with companies that do consumer grade stuff
Dec 25 13:44:20 <Kaloz> http://www.atheros.com/pt/AR6001XL.htm
Dec 25 13:46:11 <armijn> hm, are there any hardware hacks for the normal wrt54g and gs devices?
Dec 25 13:46:35 <Kaloz> flash/memory expansion
Dec 25 13:46:46 <armijn> no usb ports or so?
Dec 25 13:46:58 <Kaloz> sd card mod
Dec 25 13:47:05 <armijn> hm, how hard is that?
Dec 25 13:48:13 <Kaloz> depends on which model are you going to mod
Dec 25 13:48:58 <armijn> the older the better?
Dec 25 13:49:06 <armijn> I've got a 54g v2.2 and a gs v1
Dec 25 13:49:15 <Kaloz> both will do
Dec 25 13:53:14 <armijn> ok
Dec 25 13:53:28 <armijn> have you ever done it?
Dec 25 13:56:51 <Kaloz> nope
Dec 25 13:59:58 <armijn> hmkay
Dec 25 14:28:03 <armijn> would be cool to have
Dec 25 15:01:22 <nbd> .
Dec 25 16:53:16 <CIA-13> florian * r5900 /packages/utils/rrdtool/Makefile: Fix libnotimpl dependency (#1092)
Dec 25 17:03:44 <CIA-13> florian * r5901 /trunk/package/iptables/Makefile: Forgot kmod-ipt-imq dependency (#1076)
Dec 25 17:29:39 <CIA-13> florian * r5902 /packages/utils/sysfsutils/ (. Makefile): Add sysfsutils (#1067)
Dec 25 17:52:01 <Kaloz> alxhh: *poke*
Dec 25 19:38:12 <alxhh> Kaloz: hmm?
Dec 25 19:38:39 <Kaloz> alxhh: have a few minutes? :)
Dec 25 19:45:00 <alxhh> ok
Dec 25 19:45:14 <alxhh> but only a few, i am in family context ;-)
Dec 25 19:56:45 <[florian]> alxhh: how far are the airports TXL and BER from the 23c3 place ?
Dec 25 19:58:30 <Kaloz> alxhh: i wanted to ask about accommodations - if we will be on the same place or how it will be
Dec 25 20:28:54 <alxhh> re
Dec 25 20:44:56 * [mbm] also wondering about all that crap
Dec 25 20:45:04 <alxhh> [florian]: txl <-> alexanderplatz 30 minutes
Dec 25 20:45:16 <[mbm]> be nice if someone could meet us
Dec 25 20:45:17 <alxhh> (now, late@nite)
Dec 25 20:45:43 <[florian]> alxhh: do we need a ticket/pass to enter ?
Dec 25 20:46:27 <alxhh> [florian]: for the congress? sure
Dec 25 20:46:50 <alxhh> [mbm]: when are you coming/leaving
Dec 25 20:46:52 <[florian]> alxhh: ok, what I mean, is which status do we have ?
Dec 25 20:47:18 <alxhh> [florian]: usually visitor, maybe member
Dec 25 20:47:33 <alxhh> i was ill the last week, in bed in hamburg
Dec 25 20:47:40 <[florian]> ok, no problem
Dec 25 20:47:42 <alxhh> so i have to organize a bit
Dec 25 20:48:05 <[mbm]> alxhh:arrive 27th 12:10pm in tegl
Dec 25 20:48:08 <alxhh> i will arrive in berlin 2morrow
Dec 25 20:48:10 <[florian]> I need to make an intensive german course before wednesday ;)
Dec 25 20:48:46 <alxhh> [mbm]: you will sleep at sven-olas place
Dec 25 20:48:48 <alxhh> ;-)
Dec 25 20:49:16 <alxhh> [mbm]: when are you planning to leave?
Dec 25 20:49:19 <[mbm]> heh
Dec 25 20:49:38 <alxhh> [florian]: when are you coming/leaving?
Dec 25 20:49:47 <alxhh> [mbm]: heh?
Dec 25 20:50:02 <[mbm]> think I remember sven on irc
Dec 25 20:52:16 <armijn> sven the vim guy?
Dec 25 20:52:32 <alxhh> sven-ola, the freifunkfirmwareguy
Dec 25 20:52:38 <[mbm]> oh, must have been someone else
Dec 25 20:52:39 <armijn> different sven
Dec 25 20:52:42 <alxhh> not sven guckes
Dec 25 20:52:59 <armijn> sven guckes apparently could host 30 people or so...
Dec 25 20:58:28 <[florian]> alxhh: I will come on 27th, leave on 30th
Dec 25 20:59:16 <Kaloz> alxhh: all of us? :P
Dec 25 20:59:57 <[florian]> this would be awesome !
Dec 25 21:02:41 <alxhh> [florian]: 17:48 < [florian]> alxhh: I will probaby stay for the 31st in berlin
Dec 25 21:04:15 * [mbm] flys out the morning of the 31st
Dec 25 21:04:39 <[florian]> alxhh: I will have to leave on 30th, does this change anything on your side, because I can postpone if needed
Dec 25 21:04:46 <[mbm]> get back to the usa just in time for newyears
Dec 25 21:04:49 <alxhh> no problem
Dec 25 21:04:58 <[florian]> alxhh: ok
Dec 25 21:05:09 <alxhh> [mbm]: you should enjoy sylvester in berlin
Dec 25 21:05:18 <alxhh> really wild underground partys
Dec 25 21:05:19 <[mbm]> what's that?
Dec 25 21:05:26 <alxhh> new year
Dec 25 21:05:29 <[mbm]> interesting
Dec 25 21:05:30 <alxhh> mom
Dec 25 21:05:33 <Kaloz> hehe
Dec 25 21:05:44 <armijn> it's called "sylvester" in german speaking countries
Dec 25 21:05:47 <armijn> (and only there)
Dec 25 21:05:53 <alxhh> ok
Dec 25 21:05:53 * Kaloz "booked" that night with some friends in Hungary already
Dec 25 21:05:55 <alxhh> ah
Dec 25 21:06:07 * [mbm] doesn't sknow any german
Dec 25 21:06:15 <alxhh> http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&lang=de&searchLoc=0&cmpType=relaxed&sectHdr=on&spellToler=on&search=silvester&relink=on
Dec 25 21:06:36 <alxhh> [mbm]: didn't know that its only german
Dec 25 21:06:54 <alxhh> new years eve
Dec 25 21:06:55 <alxhh> ok
Dec 25 21:06:56 <Kaloz> alxhh: "szilveszter" in hungarian FYI :P
Dec 25 21:07:06 <alxhh> *g*
Dec 25 21:07:10 <armijn> see? different spelling!
Dec 25 21:07:10 <armijn> :P
Dec 25 21:07:24 <Kaloz> :P
Dec 25 21:08:29 <[florian]> complicated language for complicated minds ;)
Dec 25 21:08:29 <alxhh> [mbm]: i can try to fetch you from the airport, {Nico} and Kaloz will arrive on the same time on different airports
Dec 25 21:08:43 <alxhh> but 12:05 is really early
Dec 25 21:08:43 <Kaloz> alxhh: we will find our way there with wigyori
Dec 25 21:09:07 <[florian]> I will arrive at 15:000 alxhh
Dec 25 21:09:15 <alxhh> and bring sleepingbags, if you stay in the community
Dec 25 21:09:25 <armijn> or share sleepingbags.
Dec 25 21:09:29 <Kaloz> o.O
Dec 25 21:09:46 <alxhh> if you want to stay in a hotel, tell me
Dec 25 21:09:56 * [florian] does not even want to know what armijn is thinking about ;)
Dec 25 21:09:58 <[mbm]> alxhh: would be great if you met me at the airport
Dec 25 21:10:02 <alxhh> but we are organizing sleepingplaces for the developer
Dec 25 21:10:10 <armijn> [florian]: I don't want to know either
Dec 25 21:10:12 <[florian]> the only one ;) ?
Dec 25 21:10:31 <armijn> oh, so nbd does get some sleep after all then?
Dec 25 21:10:38 <[florian]> he deserves
Dec 25 21:11:13 <[florian]> ok guys, definitively have to go know, tomorrow will be box collecting and packing soldering stuff :)
Dec 25 21:11:22 <alxhh> [florian]: wich airport?
Dec 25 21:11:26 <[florian]> alxhh: TXL
Dec 25 21:11:36 <armijn> hm, who's coming to FOSDEM in february btw, except for Kaloz?
Dec 25 21:11:41 <[florian]> armijn: I will do too
Dec 25 21:11:51 <nbd> maybe i'll come
Dec 25 21:11:53 <nbd> don't know yet
Dec 25 21:11:56 * [mbm] might .. depends on how busy january is
Dec 25 21:11:59 <Kaloz> alxhh: honestly I don't have any sleepingbag :P but i guess sven will have some blankets
Dec 25 21:12:23 <alxhh> hmmm, {Nico} & [florian] will arrive at the same time, same airport
Dec 25 21:12:41 <[florian]> alxhh: we are very likely to meet each other in the plane ;)
Dec 25 21:12:45 <alxhh> Kaloz: you will not all sleep an sven-olas place, only mbm
Dec 25 21:12:54 <[florian]> doh !
Dec 25 21:13:09 <armijn> hm, so that's february 24/25...so I should try to get a few routers then
Dec 25 21:13:10 <Kaloz> alxhh: ah :p oka,y so where will we sleeping? because i totally lost the point then :)
Dec 25 21:13:14 <alxhh> you will be spread over the berlin wireless network community
Dec 25 21:13:23 <armijn> (and really check my schedule and see if I don't already have concerts planned)
Dec 25 21:13:28 <[florian]> armijn: yep
Dec 25 21:14:23 <xrg> Are you talking about FOSDEM now?
Dec 25 21:14:37 <[florian]> xrg: yep, we were talking about it
Dec 25 21:14:41 <Kaloz> alxhh: hmz.. thought we will be at the same place.. anyways, just curious - what are the options for hostels/hotels?
Dec 25 21:14:51 <Kaloz> xrg: 23c3 and fosdem :)
Dec 25 21:15:32 <xrg> Let me google it first (cause I don't remember details)
Dec 25 21:15:34 <alxhh> http://events.ccc.de/congress/2006/Accommodation
Dec 25 21:16:06 <xrg> thanks..
Dec 25 21:16:17 <alxhh> xrg: you are coming?
Dec 25 21:16:53 <xrg> Now, I wish I could :(
Dec 25 21:17:20 <xrg> It's trivial that I meet with you at some time..
Dec 25 21:17:21 <alxhh> xrg: there will be the chaos communication camp in the summer
Dec 25 21:17:35 <alxhh> with a big wireless village
Dec 25 21:17:51 <[florian]> bring your helmet there ;)
Dec 25 21:19:15 <[florian]> I will probably bring an accesscube with me :)
Dec 25 21:19:37 <alxhh> [florian]: cool, we only have about 2ß-30 there ;-)
Dec 25 21:19:42 <alxhh> 20-30
Dec 25 21:19:50 <[florian]> lol
Dec 25 21:19:56 <alxhh> the berlin-backbone is based on cubes
Dec 25 21:20:04 <[florian]> ah, which firmware do you run ?
Dec 25 21:20:22 <alxhh> still nylon, but openwrt is taking over
Dec 25 21:20:23 <[florian]> there is something the current openwrt 2.6 port is lacking : i2c support
Dec 25 21:20:50 <nbd> i'm sure we can add that :)
Dec 25 21:20:51 <alxhh> i did big promotion for openwrt on waveloeten @ c-base
Dec 25 21:20:56 <xrg> People, who's responsible for the svn/web server?
Dec 25 21:21:14 <Kaloz> 
ACTION 

Dec 25 21:21:21 <[florian]> xrg: Kaloz
Dec 25 21:21:25 <xrg> OK..
Dec 25 21:21:32 <[florian]> nbd: sure, just did not take the time to do it
Dec 25 21:21:41 <[florian]> by the way, I have nothing to test on the i2c bus :/
Dec 25 21:21:46 <nbd> me neither
Dec 25 21:22:02 <nbd> and there's still some reported instability with wifi
Dec 25 21:22:04 <[florian]> maybe I can find a temperature sensor
Dec 25 21:22:07 <nbd> for which i currently blame madwifi
Dec 25 21:22:13 <alxhh> ok, the 'schwarze tanztempel' is waiting, nbd has emailadresses from all of you
Dec 25 21:22:17 <[florian]> nbd: I guess so, since the pci seems to be fixed
Dec 25 21:22:42 <alxhh> [mbm]: for pickup, i would like to have flightdetails
Dec 25 21:22:48 <alxhh> mail it to nbd
Dec 25 21:22:54 <nbd> [florian]: yeah, stress testing with alxhh's e100 ethernet card no longer killed the device
Dec 25 21:22:57 <alxhh> or to alx (at) dd19.de
Dec 25 21:23:11 <[mbm]> alxhh: sure
Dec 25 21:23:17 <alxhh> nbd: we will test at fraunhove with the big irons
Dec 25 21:23:22 <alxhh> fraunhofer
Dec 25 21:23:30 <alxhh> ;-P
Dec 25 21:24:18 <alxhh> and nice 'christenfest'
Dec 25 21:24:35 <[florian]> danke ;)
Dec 25 21:25:03 <[florian]> alxhh: do you advise us to become a ccc member before buying our pass ?
Dec 25 21:26:10 <Kaloz> [florian]: will you be there more times? before the next ccc conference?
Dec 25 21:26:51 <[florian]> alxhh: well, I don't know, I don't think so
Dec 25 21:27:11 <[florian]> alxhh: how much is the initial subscription ?
Dec 25 21:27:18 <[mbm]> alxhh: sent
Dec 25 21:27:52 <[florian]> ok, time to sleep, see you tomorrow guys
Dec 25 21:28:10 <Kaloz> cya
Dec 25 21:33:21 <nbd> have to go now. cya
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