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Feb 04 04:43:18 <CIA-41> mbm * r19511 /trunk/include/verbose.mk: disable stdin unless make V=99; fixes bug where compilation can stall waiting for input
Feb 04 05:00:25 * solca salutes [mbm]
Feb 04 05:01:53 <[mbm]> 'lo
Feb 04 06:38:12 <builder> build #5 of octeon is complete: Failure [failed compile_15]  Build details are at http://tksite.gotdns.org:8010/builders/octeon/builds/5
Feb 04 06:54:50 <builder> build #3 of ramips is complete: Failure [failed compile_6]  Build details are at http://tksite.gotdns.org:8010/builders/ramips/builds/3
Feb 04 09:47:22 <CIA-41> florian * r19512 /trunk/package/ar7-atm/patches/190-2.6.32_proc_fixes.patch: [ar7] fix the use of proc_dostring w/ 2.6.32+
Feb 04 09:56:06 <rtz2> [florian]: ping
Feb 04 10:10:48 <CIA-41> florian * r19513 /trunk/target/linux/ (44 files in 4 dirs): [octeon] move generic config and patches directory to be 2.6.30 specific
Feb 04 10:10:52 <CIA-41> florian * r19514 /trunk/target/linux/cobalt/ (5 files in 3 dirs): [cobalt] move 2.6.30 config and patches to their appropriate location
Feb 04 10:10:59 <CIA-41> florian * r19515 /trunk/target/linux/rdc/base-files/lib/preinit/05_set_ether_mac_rdc: [rdc] fix path to boot.sh, thanks bifferos
Feb 04 10:22:28 <CIA-41> matteo * r19516 /trunk/target/linux/atheros/ (13 files in 2 dirs): atheros: 2.6.32 support
Feb 04 10:26:57 <tripolar_> ping thepeople
Feb 04 10:28:30 <tripolar_> ping nbd
Feb 04 12:18:42 <swalker> jow_laptop: r13165 for #6637 doesn't look to have been backported to 8.09
Feb 04 12:19:10 <jow_laptop> swalker: problem is that 8.09 is closed, eol
Feb 04 12:19:20 <jow_laptop> there will be no further backports
Feb 04 12:21:22 * swalker wonders why 8.09.2 was even released then
Feb 04 12:22:06 <jow_laptop> it was planned to be the last release of the 8.09 series
Feb 04 12:27:46 <KanjiMonster> shouldn't 8.09 be eol'd only after there was a new release?
Feb 04 12:30:07 <jow_laptop> it was a branch
Feb 04 12:30:28 <jow_laptop> and three releases were made from it, no further one is planned so it is decalred eol now
Feb 04 12:30:49 <jow_laptop> would have been pointless to create two additional branches for two minor releases
Feb 04 12:31:06 <stintel> indeed, that's what tags are for, no ?
Feb 04 12:31:18 <jow_laptop> there are three tags
Feb 04 12:31:28 <jow_laptop> wich were used to build the releases
Feb 04 12:34:13 <Guest38639> Hello, I am seeing a bug discussed several times in the forum about pl2303 serial driver not working properly through a hub. I have tried the trunk on several platforms (ar71xx and brcm) and it is still there. However, I haven't found a ticket in trac. Should I file one?
Feb 04 12:34:24 <jow_laptop> but for general discussion on versioning, bugfix releases etc. you should talk to Bartman007 or {Nico}, they're the release team and make the decision
Feb 04 12:34:58 <jow_laptop> Guest38639: please do so, and try to provide some information
Feb 04 12:35:49 <Guest38639> But are you sure that there is no ticket about it yet? It has been extensively discussed on the forum. I'm a bit uncertain whether it was just me not being able to find a ticket.
Feb 04 12:36:26 <jow_laptop> Guest38639: there are thousands of tickets, I am not sure whether there already is one :)
Feb 04 12:36:46 <Guest38639> So should I go ahead and file one nonetheless?
Feb 04 12:37:02 <jow_laptop> yes, worst case is that it will be closed as duplicate
Feb 04 12:37:13 <Guest38639> No, worst case it will be ignored. :-)
Feb 04 12:37:33 <Guest38639> ...is that...
Feb 04 12:38:29 <Guest38639> BTW, is there some USB/serial converter that has been verified to work properly though USB hubs with OpenWrt?
Feb 04 12:50:26 <Guest38639> https://dev.openwrt.org/ticket/6640
Feb 04 14:34:56 <CIA-41> florian * r19517 /trunk/target/linux/generic-2.6/config-2.6.32: [kernel] add missing MISDN symbols to 2.6.32 config
Feb 04 14:35:24 <CIA-41> florian * r19518 /trunk/target/linux/ar7/ (60 files in 21 dirs): [ar7] move files to file-2.6.30
Feb 04 14:35:28 <CIA-41> florian * r19519 /trunk/target/linux/ar7/ (11 files in 5 dirs): [ar7] add 2.6.32 support
Feb 04 14:35:33 <CIA-41> florian * r19520 /trunk/target/linux/rb532/ (11 files in 4 dirs): [rb532] add support for 2.6.32
Feb 04 14:35:36 <CIA-41> florian * r19521 /trunk/target/linux/generic-2.6/patches-2.6.32/970-ocf_kbuild_integration.patch: [kernel] refresh 2.6.32 patches
Feb 04 14:35:40 <CIA-41> florian * r19522 /trunk/target/linux/rb532/patches-2.6.32/ (001-cmdline_hack.patch 002-rb532_nand_fixup.patch): [rb532] refresh 2.6.32 patches
Feb 04 14:35:44 <CIA-41> florian * r19523 /trunk/target/linux/ar7/patches-2.6.32/ (930-titan-platform.patch 940-cpmac-titan.patch): [ar7] refresh patches
Feb 04 14:45:04 <rtz2> [florian]: ping
Feb 04 14:52:06 <CIA-41> jow * r19524 /packages/net/haproxy/ (Makefile files/haproxy.init): [packages] haproxy: update to v1.3.23, fix restart action
Feb 04 14:57:18 <Guest38639> Does anyone know of a  USB/Serial converter that is guaranteed to work with OpenWrt?
Feb 04 15:04:48 <danage> Guest38639: they aren't openwrt specific, they are router specific. you need one that converts the 5V usb down to 3.3V level
Feb 04 15:06:03 <Guest38639> ? I need proper +-12V on the RS232 output
Feb 04 15:06:26 <danage> do you have rs232 on your computer? or do you mean on your router?
Feb 04 15:06:53 <Guest38639> It's not for the serial console (that problem is perfectly solved through gutting a Nokia C-42 cable). I need a proper RS-232 for the router to communicate with some hardware.
Feb 04 15:07:34 <danage> ah, ok. then all you need is a level converter from 3.3V to 12V, there's plenty google should bring up
Feb 04 15:07:56 <Guest38639> I know it is cheapest by adding a MAX232 chip to the internal serial port, but I don't want to open the case (it's for a cusomer, not for myself).
Feb 04 15:07:57 <danage> you do not need a USB converter in that case
Feb 04 15:08:05 <Guest38639> I do. (see above)
Feb 04 15:08:34 <danage> ah ok i see now. you want to connect to a router's usb port
Feb 04 15:30:50 <Guest38639> danage: yes.
Feb 04 15:32:06 <Guest38639> So, does anyone know a USB/Serial converter that is working? Unfortunately, the majority on the market is pl2303-based and OpenWrt has issues with those.
Feb 04 15:35:49 <tripolar_> ping thepeople
Feb 04 15:47:26 <tripolar_> ping nbd
Feb 04 17:13:26 <CIA-41> jow * r19525 /trunk/package/broadcom-wl/files/lib/wifi/broadcom.sh: [brcm-2.4] fix wrong numbering of interfaces in wireless detection
Feb 04 17:34:39 <rtz2> cshore: ping
Feb 04 17:37:57 <rtz2> xMff: you here?
Feb 04 17:48:56 <thepeople> tripolar_: pong
Feb 04 17:49:28 <tripolar_> thepeople: hi i was just wondering if i get my account today
Feb 04 17:50:22 <rtz2> has anybody here any idea, why something like mount -o move /proc /mnt/proc works in a script, but not if I type it in manually?
Feb 04 17:50:43 <tripolar_> rtz2 /mnt/proc doesnt not exist?
Feb 04 17:50:52 <tripolar_> whahts the error?
Feb 04 17:50:55 <tripolar_> whats
Feb 04 17:51:18 <tripolar_> and normally u should move mount on a running sys .. maybe u want -o bind
Feb 04 17:51:26 <tripolar_> should/should not
Feb 04 17:51:41 <tripolar_> mount/\/proc
Feb 04 17:51:46 <thepeople> tripolar_: see pm
Feb 04 17:52:08 <rtz2> tripolar_: it does
Feb 04 17:52:19 <rtz2> mount -o move /proc /mnt/proc -t proc works fine
Feb 04 17:52:38 <tripolar_> mount -o move /proc /mnt/proc .. -t souldnt be needed
Feb 04 17:52:44 <rtz2> i'm messing around with preinit and it needs to move the moments for pivot_root
Feb 04 17:52:52 <tripolar_> yeah i have a working code
Feb 04 17:52:56 <tripolar_> do u want it?
Feb 04 17:53:22 <rtz2> tripolar_: working code for what?
Feb 04 17:53:25 <tripolar_> to pivot root to an usb stick for example
Feb 04 17:53:34 <tripolar_> but its 2.6 code
Feb 04 17:53:47 <tripolar_> 2.4 is a bit different
Feb 04 17:54:23 <rtz2> tripolar_: I'm trying to port preinit to a binary
Feb 04 17:54:33 <tripolar_>  -t proc is only needed when u mount /proc ... when u move something -t isnt needed ... and i think it souldnt be used when u move something
Feb 04 17:54:50 <tripolar_> make no sense to use it
Feb 04 17:55:10 <tripolar_> rtz2: should i nopaste the privot_root preinit code?
Feb 04 17:55:12 <rtz2> root@(none):/# mount -o move /proc /mnt/proc
Feb 04 17:55:12 <rtz2> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
Feb 04 17:55:12 <rtz2> root@(none):/# mount -o move /proc /mnt/proc -t proc
Feb 04 17:55:12 <rtz2> root@(none):/#
Feb 04 17:55:30 <tripolar_> no
Feb 04 17:55:32 <rtz2> https://dev.openwrt.org/browser/trunk/package/base-files/files/lib/functions/boot.sh#L62
Feb 04 17:55:42 <tripolar_> after u pivot root its not any more at /proc
Feb 04 17:55:59 <tripolar_> ot at the point where u pivot rooted the old root to
Feb 04 17:56:00 <rtz2> tripolar_: it's before piviot_root
Feb 04 17:56:10 <tripolar_> no do it after pivot root
Feb 04 17:56:22 <rtz2> tripolar_: tried this already, same error
Feb 04 17:56:23 <tripolar_> someone has a problem when i paste the code here?
Feb 04 17:56:36 <rtz2> tripolar_: if it's not too long
Feb 04 17:56:58 <tripolar_>         usb=0
Feb 04 17:56:58 <tripolar_> # mount the usb stick
Feb 04 17:56:58 <tripolar_>         for module in nls_base usbcore ehci-hcd uhci-hcd scsi_mod sd_mod usb-storage jbd ext3 ; do {
Feb 04 17:56:58 <tripolar_>                 insmod $module
Feb 04 17:56:58 <tripolar_>         }; done
Feb 04 17:56:59 <tripolar_>         sleep 10s
Feb 04 17:57:01 <thepeople> tripolar_: better to use pastebin if more than 2 lines
Feb 04 17:57:01 <tripolar_>         mount -o rw,noatime /dev/sda1 /mnt
Feb 04 17:57:03 <tripolar_> # if everything looks ok, do the pivot root
Feb 04 17:57:05 <tripolar_>         [ -e /mnt/etc/usb.boot ] && [ -x /mnt/sbin/init ] && {
Feb 04 17:57:07 <tripolar_>         mount -o move /proc /mnt/proc && \
Feb 04 17:57:09 <tripolar_>         pivot_root /mnt /mnt/rom && {
Feb 04 17:57:11 <tripolar_>                 mount -o move /rom/dev /dev
Feb 04 17:57:13 <tripolar_>                 mount -o move /rom/sys /sys
Feb 04 17:57:15 <tripolar_>                 mount -o move /rom/tmp /tmp
Feb 04 17:57:17 <tripolar_>                 usb=1
Feb 04 17:57:19 <tripolar_>         }
Feb 04 17:57:21 <tripolar_>         }
Feb 04 17:57:23 <rtz2> das ist etwas zu lang :/
Feb 04 17:57:23 <tripolar_> #no usbstick or no boot from it wanted
Feb 04 17:57:25 <rtz2> egal
Feb 04 17:57:27 <tripolar_>         [ $usb -eq 0 ] && {
Feb 04 17:57:29 <tripolar_>                 umount /mnt
Feb 04 17:57:31 <tripolar_>     }
Feb 04 17:57:33 <tripolar_> too later
Feb 04 17:57:35 <tripolar_> sorry
Feb 04 17:57:40 <tripolar_> thepeople next time i'll use nopaste ., just asked because no one talked fot he last 20 minutes or something like this
Feb 04 17:57:44 <tripolar_> wont happen again
Feb 04 17:57:49 <rtz2> crap, I'm mixing up languages :/
Feb 04 17:58:12 <tripolar_> ahh du sprichtst deutsch rtz2
Feb 04 17:58:14 <tripolar_> :)
Feb 04 17:58:16 <rtz2> ja
Feb 04 17:58:21 <tripolar_> nicht hier drinnen
Feb 04 17:58:26 <tripolar_> speak english
Feb 04 17:58:38 <rtz2> tripolar_: there is now #openwrt-de ;)
Feb 04 17:58:39 <tripolar_> its no good idea ... in english channels speak english
Feb 04 17:58:42 <tripolar_> i know
Feb 04 17:58:53 <tripolar_> u can open it ;)
Feb 04 17:59:04 <rtz2> anyway, why does it fail, if I run the command manually?
Feb 04 17:59:16 <tripolar_> whats the error?
Feb 04 17:59:30 <tripolar_> -t is not needed / dont use it when ou move
Feb 04 17:59:32 <tripolar_> ou=u
Feb 04 17:59:35 <rtz2> root@(none):/# mount -o move /proc /mnt/proc
Feb 04 17:59:35 <rtz2> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
Feb 04 17:59:53 <tripolar_> mount |grep /proc
Feb 04 17:59:55 <tripolar_> ?
Feb 04 17:59:57 <tripolar_> says what?
Feb 04 18:00:04 <tripolar_> nothing
Feb 04 18:00:06 <tripolar_> :)
Feb 04 18:00:08 <tripolar_> ?
Feb 04 18:00:28 <tripolar_> never move prov on a running system
Feb 04 18:00:31 <tripolar_> proc
Feb 04 18:00:41 <tripolar_> exptect i did it up there
Feb 04 18:00:54 <tripolar_> except
Feb 04 18:00:59 <rtz2> there are 2 processes, so it's not exactly running
Feb 04 18:01:22 <rtz2> root@(none):/# mount | grep /proc
Feb 04 18:01:22 <rtz2> proc on /proc type proc (rw,relatime)
Feb 04 18:01:23 <tripolar_> and how did u get a sys with 2 running processes?
Feb 04 18:01:30 <rtz2> tripolar_: preinit
Feb 04 18:01:49 <tripolar_> yeah but u have no shell access at preinit time - do u?
Feb 04 18:01:52 <rtz2> I entered failsafe and killed telnetd and hotplug2
Feb 04 18:02:04 <rtz2> tripolar_: failsafe and a serial console
Feb 04 18:02:27 <tripolar_> rtz2: dont move /proc after it everting is lost ... no devices are foung any more
Feb 04 18:02:40 <tripolar_> use the code i pasted
Feb 04 18:02:41 <tripolar_> it works
Feb 04 18:03:04 <tripolar_> i dont wanna try move /prov on a running sys .. thats no good idea at all
Feb 04 18:03:08 <tripolar_> -i bond is okay
Feb 04 18:03:12 <tripolar_> -o bind
Feb 04 18:03:23 <tripolar_> never move it ecapt after a pivot root
Feb 04 18:03:26 <tripolar_> except
Feb 04 18:03:51 <rtz2> tripolar_: I have to move it, because it will be at the wrong place after the pivio_root to the minifo overlay :/
Feb 04 18:04:12 <tripolar_> do it at the end of preinit
Feb 04 18:04:13 <rtz2> and i can't use your code because I want to do it in a binary program
Feb 04 18:04:23 <tripolar_> what for?
Feb 04 18:04:30 <tripolar_> shell code works nice
Feb 04 18:05:28 <tripolar_> rtz2 whole preinit is shell code - so what for binary code?
Feb 04 18:06:32 <rtz2> well, preinit is getting rather complex
Feb 04 18:06:44 <tripolar_> speed up? this few commands dont need that much time .. i think under an second .. u should do this in preinit so the system would boot from an external device ... the userland will never see the change
Feb 04 18:06:51 <rtz2> having something that can track dependencies between things would be helpful
Feb 04 18:07:03 <rtz2> it's like 10-20 seconds
Feb 04 18:07:23 <rtz2> and I don't want to boot from an external device
Feb 04 18:07:34 <tripolar_> 10-20 to initialice the modules .. yeah it takes some time until the kernel recognices the disk
Feb 04 18:07:54 <tripolar_> u wanna use an external disk?
Feb 04 18:08:07 <rtz2> I want to pivot_root from the squashfs ro filesystem to the jffs2 overlay
Feb 04 18:17:21 <builder> build #3 of s3c24xx is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://tksite.gotdns.org:8010/builders/s3c24xx/builds/3
Feb 04 18:22:49 <fofware> Hello guys, Is there any way to manipulate files config files from package at building image time?  here I paste my Makefile and postinstall
Feb 04 18:22:53 <fofware> http://pastebin.com/m53309131
Feb 04 18:28:15 <fofware> I get http://pastebin.com/d6e191784 and this is what buildbot tell me, file not found
Feb 04 19:16:13 <xMff> rtz2: now I am
Feb 04 19:16:45 <rtz2> xMff: sorry, got it figured out by
Feb 04 19:16:50 <rtz2> but thanks anyway
Feb 04 19:17:01 <xMff> o
Feb 04 19:17:02 <xMff> k
Feb 04 19:54:36 <rtz2> cshore: ping
Feb 04 20:24:28 <fofware> hello guys, I have a question about buildroot, If i have a package that depend from other how tell to buildroot to make parent package first?
Feb 04 20:29:14 <fofware> I ask this, because if i do make packages/mypackage/compile and make package/mypackage/install after run make V=99 mypackage complile and install well but not in world build, it don't files supposed was created for parnets packages
Feb 04 20:29:54 <fofware> it don't find files ....*
Feb 04 20:30:47 <fofware> any idea, please?
Feb 04 20:31:46 <xMff> PKG_BUILD_DEPENDS=otherpackage
Feb 04 20:32:48 <fofware> thanks xMff, I need put this vars in Makefile or where?
Feb 04 20:34:08 <xMff> yes the makefile
Feb 04 20:34:31 <fofware> thanks very much xMff
Feb 04 20:52:14 <fofware> xMff: I did try with PKG_BUILD_DEPENDS but I have the same result, if you have a time can see my scripts, maybe I'm doing something wrong, http://pastebin.com/d387ae15d
Feb 04 22:29:28 <CIA-41> lars * r19526 /trunk/target/linux/xburst/patches-2.6.32/104-usb.patch: [xburst] There is currently no host usb support.
Feb 04 22:41:01 <cshore> pong rtz2
Feb 04 22:41:36 <cshore> ok ready to start testing my modularized automount
Feb 04 22:44:28 <cshore> and then root on external storage
Feb 04 22:44:43 <rtz2> cshore: I'm also ready for some tests I hope
Feb 04 22:45:06 <cshore> rtz: cool
Feb 04 22:45:08 <rtz2> cshore: as soon as I figure out where lseek blows up :/
Feb 04 22:45:18 <cshore> heh
Feb 04 22:47:20 <rtz2> cshore: is there any way the lseek could fail, if the open succeeds?
Feb 04 22:47:21 <rtz2> 	m_fd = open("/proc/mtd", O_RDONLY);
Feb 04 22:47:21 <rtz2> 	m_length = lseek(m_fd, 0, SEEK_END);
Feb 04 22:48:44 <cshore> let me look it up
Feb 04 22:49:45 <rtz2> or is /proc/mtd not seekable?!?
Feb 04 22:52:19 <cshore> well what error code does it return?
Feb 04 22:52:57 <cshore> is it a pipe, socket or FIFO?
Feb 04 22:53:08 <cshore> those aren't seekable
Feb 04 22:53:28 <rtz2> cshore: currently compilint and coping stuff around
Feb 04 22:53:50 <rtz2> the copying part is rather lengthy
Feb 04 22:54:00 <cshore> yes I've noticed
Feb 04 22:54:51 <cshore> mtd might not have a defined lenght
Feb 04 22:54:54 <cshore> until you read it
Feb 04 22:55:21 <cshore> because it's dynamic
Feb 04 22:58:34 <rtz2> 22
Feb 04 22:58:36 <rtz2> hmm
Feb 04 22:59:10 <rtz2> invalid argument?!?
Feb 04 23:00:18 <cshore> yep, can't seek that 'file'
Feb 04 23:00:53 <rtz2> crap
Feb 04 23:01:12 <rtz2> so much with mmaping it :/
Feb 04 23:01:17 <cshore>  EINVAL whence  is  not  one  of  SEEK_SET,  SEEK_CUR,  SEEK_END; or the               resulting file offset would be negative, or beyond the end of  a               seekable device.
Feb 04 23:02:18 <cshore> I'm guessing the file doesn't really exist but feeds bytes when you read
Feb 04 23:02:28 <rtz2> well, nothing of those should happen :/
Feb 04 23:02:30 <rtz2> crap
Feb 04 23:02:41 <rtz2> well, back to read then
Feb 04 23:02:52 <cshore> why did you want to mmap it?
Feb 04 23:03:26 <cshore> easier parse?
Feb 04 23:04:08 <rtz2> yes
Feb 04 23:04:21 <rtz2> looked like the quickes way
Feb 04 23:05:12 <rtz2> have to go back to my presentation for half an hour
Feb 04 23:09:47 <cshore> you should see the insanity of my planned test network - 3 routers for controlling the network.  I also have two test routers, not to mentions some a bench computer....and then there's my workstation and other 'normal' hardware.  I'll have like 14 subnets or so.
Feb 04 23:11:01 <cshore> it's a combination of test bench and paranoid security for my regular stuff
Feb 04 23:11:08 <jow_laptop> rtz2: quickest way would be fopen() + fgets() + sscanf(), the mtd utility does the same
Feb 04 23:11:44 <jow_laptop> rtz2: you can probably just copy the code from there
Feb 04 23:13:15 <builder> build #7 of ppc44x is complete: Failure [failed compile_15]  Build details are at http://tksite.gotdns.org:8010/builders/ppc44x/builds/7
Feb 04 23:54:04 <CIA-41> lars * r19527 /trunk/target/linux/xburst/config-2.6.32: [xburst] Unset PCI support in the config file
Feb 05 00:22:28 <CIA-41> lars * r19528 /packages/net/openswan/patches/150-2.6.32.patch: [packages] Fix openswan kernel module build for 2.6.32
Feb 05 00:36:02 <solca> nbd: FYI on wrt160nl (ath9k) wireless hangs past 24hrs, I have 50 devices and it happens on most, 'wifi up' bring it again, hostapd problem IMO, nothing on dmesg or logread, will enable full debugging
Feb 05 00:38:23 <CIA-41> lars * r19529 /packages/libs/zaptel-1.4.x/patches/340-2.6.32.patch: [packages] Fix zaptel kernel module build for 2.6.32
Feb 05 00:40:18 <rtz2> cshore: it works
Feb 05 00:40:22 <rtz2> cshore: somewhat
Feb 05 00:41:19 <cshore> same here
Feb 05 00:41:41 <cshore> debug time?
Feb 05 00:42:04 <rtz2> well, I move the mmap stuff to tomorrow
Feb 05 00:42:17 <rtz2> but now, I can't insmod my network driver :/
Feb 05 00:59:02 <rtz2> cshore: yay!
Feb 05 00:59:06 <rtz2> it works
Feb 05 00:59:31 <cshore> cool
Feb 05 01:04:57 <cshore> now when I do my usb root and failsafe / provider provisioning we'll see if it can support it
Feb 05 01:06:04 <cshore> as add-on packages that is
Feb 05 01:09:02 <rtz2> ok, there is some race condition, but basically, it works
Feb 05 01:09:17 <rtz2> cshore: you want to take a look at it?
Feb 05 01:11:40 <cshore> sure...
Feb 05 01:17:16 <rtz2> cshore:
Feb 05 01:17:17 <rtz2> http://www.file-upload.net/download-2228560/init5.tar.html
Feb 05 01:17:59 <rtz2> cshore: there is lot's of stuff missing, for example the config file parser and it still depends on libstdc++
Feb 05 01:18:08 <rtz2> but the biggest parts are there
Feb 05 01:31:40 <cshore> hmmm.....I think the shell scripts are easier to understand I have to say
Feb 05 01:33:28 <rtz2> cshore: well, everything is hardcoded at the moment, I want to load the actual jobs and stuff from config files
Feb 05 01:33:32 <cshore> interesting though....need to make a call graph or something though....
Feb 05 01:33:39 <cshore> of course
Feb 05 01:34:46 <rtz2> cshore: I plan to write some docs
Feb 05 01:34:56 <cshore> although...I guess it's not as bad as it looks, because normally you'd be editing the config files not the code
Feb 05 01:35:32 <rtz2> cshore: the important classes are Condition, ConditionDB, Command, Job, JobDB, Group and GroupDB
Feb 05 01:35:40 <cshore> rtz: not sure how well it'll work for doing a drop in package for external root though
Feb 05 01:35:42 <rtz2> you can ignore the rest for now
Feb 05 01:36:30 <rtz2> basically, it will only be a config file of a dozend lines or so
Feb 05 01:37:05 <cshore> well things like mounting have to be in the code or can you use pivot commands in the config file?
Feb 05 01:37:10 <cshore> will I mean
Feb 05 01:38:24 <rtz2> cshore: take a look at the ConfigParser ctor
Feb 05 01:38:47 <rtz2> cshore: it creates a long list of config objects
Feb 05 01:39:09 <rtz2> cshore: those are basically a 1:1 representation of sections in the config file
Feb 05 01:39:24 <cshore> ok
Feb 05 01:39:30 <rtz2> cshore: you can run arbitary commands in there
Feb 05 01:39:53 <rtz2> cshore: run arbitary programs, I mean
Feb 05 01:40:16 <cshore> can you define new conditions without having to write C/C++ code?
Feb 05 01:40:24 <rtz2> cshore: there are some shortcuts, for example for piviot_root to move around all the mount points and set up the overlay
Feb 05 01:41:01 <cshore> ah, I see, kind of a library of important stuff...but if you wanted you could do it via commands?
Feb 05 01:43:09 <cshore> Say an arbitrary shell script returning 0 or 1?
Feb 05 01:46:12 <rtz2> cshore: not for conditions at the moment
Feb 05 01:46:23 <rtz2> cshore: but I can add it, if the need comes up
Feb 05 01:47:49 <rtz2> well, it's possible to emulate it with finished-ok and finished-error
Feb 05 01:48:03 <cshore> ok
Feb 05 01:50:04 <cshore> I have to honest that I'm not sure that the complexity is worth it
Feb 05 01:50:27 <rtz2> hmm
Feb 05 01:50:34 <rtz2> well, it's not that complex
Feb 05 01:51:04 <rtz2> the program is a bit, but the config system should be easy
Feb 05 01:52:04 <cshore> I think it'll be harder to maintain, but I could be wrong
Feb 05 01:53:52 <rtz2> cshore: I will add config file parsing support and work out some kinks
Feb 05 01:54:21 <rtz2> cshore: then, we can take a look at it again and decide what to do
Feb 05 01:54:37 <cshore> ok....once I have a couple of more preinit packages cooked up, you can see how well they can be made to work with your system
Feb 05 01:54:49 <cshore> then we can see if it's flexible enough
Feb 05 02:21:37 <epointsystem> Hi, can anyone help me with the serial console on WRT160NL? I have a Nokia C-42 cable, which does show up as a serial interface. I have identified signal GND, RxD and TxD and validated the cable by shorting RxD and TxD and seeing echoes in the terminal. So I have a 3.3V serial line.
Feb 05 02:22:30 <epointsystem> I have opened the router, found J3, which is supposed to be the serial console. Found the ground pin (it is the one opposite to the connectors.
Feb 05 02:23:42 <epointsystem> What I am not sure about is this: is the pinout at this page indicate what signals are there, or what signals need to be connected?
Feb 05 02:23:42 <epointsystem> http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/linksys/wrt160nl
Feb 05 02:24:05 <rtz2> epointsystem: try it
Feb 05 02:24:20 <rtz2> epointsystem: there isn't much that can go wrong
Feb 05 02:24:20 <epointsystem> Well, connecting two outputs is a BAD idea.
Feb 05 02:24:28 <rtz2> no
Feb 05 02:24:37 <rtz2> as long as both are 3.3V
Feb 05 02:24:46 <rtz2> did it myself
Feb 05 02:25:09 <epointsystem> Also, at what point do I need to see anything in the terminal emulator?
Feb 05 02:25:33 <rtz2> epointsystem: pretty much directly after power up
Feb 05 02:26:08 <epointsystem> No matter what the firmware is?
Feb 05 02:26:37 <epointsystem> I am trying to unbrick a device that has been flashed with a defective firmware.
Feb 05 02:28:10 <epointsystem> Does U-boot start up no matter what?
Feb 05 02:28:28 <rtz2> epointsystem: if you didn't nuke it
Feb 05 02:29:04 <epointsystem> What do you mean by that? The firmware could have been arbitrarily wrong.
Feb 05 02:30:04 <rtz2> epointsystem: well, there is a chance you overwrote uboot
Feb 05 02:30:23 <rtz2> epointsystem: i'm not sure how well protected it is and what exactly you did
Feb 05 02:31:44 <epointsystem> I was trying to flash OpenWrt via tftp (something that succeeded before), but either the image cannot boot (kernel panic, I'd guess) or I powered off the device too early, before the flashing was finished.
Feb 05 02:32:44 <epointsystem> I have no idea what exactly went wrong, but the fact is that it's not listening on LAN anymore. Not even for ICMP or tftp.
Feb 05 02:33:10 <rtz2> epointsystem: well, the bootloader should surfive this
Feb 05 02:33:52 <epointsystem> It does seem to do some self-testing, because the power led is flashing and at some point (about 2 sec after power-up)  if briefly flashes all the LAN leds.
Feb 05 02:34:54 <epointsystem> Does the serial console go live after this event?
Feb 05 02:38:06 <rtz2> epointsystem: depends on your model, but it should go live even before that
Feb 05 02:41:47 <epointsystem> It doesn't. So I'm obviously doing something wrong. I'm just wondering what it might be...
Feb 05 02:42:06 <epointsystem> Serial settings are 11520 8N1
Feb 05 02:42:20 <epointsystem> 115200, I mean
Feb 05 02:44:30 <epointsystem> Any ideas? Here's what I tried:
Feb 05 02:45:43 <epointsystem> Connected Data GND to pin 5 on the console. Then tried connecting either one of the other wires to pin 2 first and to pin 3 second.
Feb 05 02:46:16 <epointsystem> So that's 4 possibilities. None of them results in the terminal going live. :-(
Feb 05 02:47:36 <_trine> rtz2: how come you're still awake :)
Feb 05 02:47:57 <rtz2> _trine: no idea, but i'm kinda night active ;)
Feb 05 02:48:15 <_trine> you were here early this morning and you're still here now ::::)))))
Feb 05 02:48:32 <rtz2> epointsystem: why does the order matter? you didn't connect it to a powered up system, did you?
Feb 05 02:48:44 <_trine> I back home now with my router reset
Feb 05 02:48:45 <rtz2> _trine: don't ask
Feb 05 02:48:46 <epointsystem> No.
Feb 05 02:48:54 <_trine> just got off the plane
Feb 05 02:49:09 <rtz2> _trine: but i'm rater awake now
Feb 05 02:49:23 <epointsystem> I connected it first, and then powered the system up.
Feb 05 02:49:29 <rtz2> well, I probably better go off
Feb 05 02:49:34 <rtz2> epointsystem: sorry, no idea
Feb 05 02:49:42 <epointsystem> np
Feb 05 02:49:50 <rtz2> bye everybody
Feb 05 02:49:54 <epointsystem> bye
Feb 05 02:49:59 <_trine> goodnight rtz2
Feb 05 02:54:53 <_trine> epointsystem: I have a couple of wrt160nl's
Feb 05 02:55:24 <_trine> I flash them with my serial cable
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