**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 27 02:59:57 2011 Jan 27 03:01:09 philipp64: I'm not sure of the situation with libnl-tiny vs libnl so I'm not touching that patch...Jo should know Jan 27 03:01:56 philipp64: but I suspect if you're going to and -libnl-genl to things with libnl then will need a suitable libnl-genl-tiny as well Jan 27 03:02:01 *add Jan 27 03:02:17 libnl is related to nls_base ? Jan 27 03:02:27 no netlink Jan 27 03:02:53 looking at philipp's packages on -devel Jan 27 03:02:53 oki :) Jan 27 03:03:34 i ve seen a patch which enhance ath5k tx by 2 this morning Jan 27 03:04:05 (20 hours ago) Jan 27 03:04:07 :p Jan 27 03:04:22 4AM here Jan 27 03:13:26 i use ushare (DLNA) on the mounted network shares Jan 27 03:13:38 for my phone and tv :) Jan 27 03:13:48 More spam posts on the forum by the same spammer! Jan 27 03:14:02 yea, its automatic Jan 27 03:14:05 i think Jan 27 03:14:29 the best thing to do is to ignore the spambot posts Jan 27 03:14:30 Just remove the post and deactivate the account. Then, block the subnet. Jan 27 03:14:33 without errors Jan 27 03:14:40 else another account will be created Jan 27 03:15:06 You ignore them, they will come to post more spams on a daily base. Jan 27 03:15:22 mazilo: ignore as in don't actually post Jan 27 03:15:35 This will make the forum unreadable. That's what had happened to FreeWorldDialUp forum. Jan 27 03:15:45 ignore = not displayed Jan 27 03:15:54 i mean Jan 27 03:16:09 i've a protection on my drupal site... Jan 27 03:16:11 I can do that, but it will hurt the forum. Jan 27 03:16:21 some agent thing Jan 27 03:16:53 mazilo: we don't mean you should ignore, we mean once they're seen that account should have it's posts silently ignored Jan 27 03:16:56 When a nice forum starts to be inundated with spams, it will lose is readers and dies out. Jan 27 03:17:22 mazilo: by the forum software Jan 27 03:17:31 yea... same on blogs with comments Jan 27 03:17:33 cshore: That is true. But, it will invite more spammers to post spam posts if not taken care. Jan 27 03:17:55 mazilo: how so, the posts will not be visible Jan 27 03:18:11 mazilo: it's not like they go back and check the old post is still there Jan 27 03:18:31 Like I said, it won't hurt me once I saw even the title of the post and it will disappear from my browser after a few minutes later on once refreshed. Jan 27 03:18:38 module is called "badbehavior" on drupal Jan 27 03:19:44 http://bad-behavior.ioerror.us/documentation/how-it-works/ Jan 27 03:19:48 cshore: The spammers are using the forum to disperse their interests. The more spams they posts, the more points they get on the search engines. Jan 27 03:19:49 mazilo: that is we still need to be alerted about them Jan 27 03:20:20 mazilo: but once we know, instead of deleting and banning, delete, and ignore future posts Jan 27 03:20:43 (i.e. they never show up on the forum) Jan 27 03:21:15 yea :) its what i mean Jan 27 03:21:36 i dont think the bot check result Jan 27 03:21:41 s Jan 27 03:22:12 i dont have any on SMF Jan 27 03:22:23 phpbb is the most know Jan 27 03:22:27 n Jan 27 03:22:29 cshore: I agree with what you said. But, their posts are still there for others to encounter. Jan 27 03:22:37 SMF Small Machines Forum Jan 27 03:22:59 Epsylon3: Thanks for the link. Jan 27 03:23:03 mazilo: not if the old posts are deleted...and remember the new posts are not displayed to the other users Jan 27 03:23:44 mazilo: the bot only *thinks* it is successfully posting Jan 27 03:24:00 they maybe check for error with url thing Jan 27 03:24:03 I think that's a good idea (it doesn't do this currently) Jan 27 03:24:04 post/id Jan 27 03:25:17 cshore: I thought the old posts are still there for posterities to view. Jan 27 03:25:28 a spammer on my smf : http://forum.wdscript.fr/index.php?action=profile;u=1136 Jan 27 03:25:30 posts : 0 Jan 27 03:25:31 :) Jan 27 03:25:32 mazilo: I don't think so Jan 27 03:27:16 now the question is, is there something like this for phpbb Jan 27 03:27:17 ? Jan 27 03:27:22 cshore: If I search on the forum, all (new/old) posts related to the search item will get hit. Jan 27 03:28:15 mazilo: presumably not if the module is coded right Jan 27 03:28:38 cshore: IC. Jan 27 03:29:11 http://phsoftware.de/index.php/content/view/51/8/ Jan 27 03:29:19 PhBad Behave Jan 27 03:29:31 but old Jan 27 03:29:40 its for phpbb2 Jan 27 03:30:07 Various bits of documentation need to be updated. I need to host installation instructions, or links thereto, for any platform to which Bad Behavior has been ported, and several of those (such as phpBB and Movable Type) are missing right now. Jan 27 03:30:25 that means there is support for phpbb in dev 2.1.x Jan 27 03:30:29 http://bad-behavior.ioerror.us/2006/08/05/bad-behavior-21-and-30-roadmap/ Jan 27 03:30:35 ouch 2006 Jan 27 03:32:55 http://bad-behavior.ioerror.us/2011/01/25/bad-behavior-2-1-9/ Jan 27 03:32:59 more recent :) Jan 27 03:33:04 2 days ago Jan 27 03:37:13 Epsylong3: how recent is the build with the nls_base behaviour? Jan 27 03:37:30 It seems it ought to be fixed by AddDepends/nls Jan 27 03:37:39 which current trunk has Jan 27 03:39:33 2.6.37 Jan 27 03:39:40 today Jan 27 03:39:48 er, I meant...okay trunk as of today? Jan 27 03:39:53 yea :) Jan 27 03:40:02 hmmmm.....don't know why that is Jan 27 03:40:05 it should work Jan 27 03:40:23 that is nls_base should be a dependency Jan 27 03:40:43 kmod Jan 27 03:40:51 yeah, that's what I mean Jan 27 03:41:51 DEPENDS:=+kmod-nls-base +kmod-crypto-hmac +kmod-crypto-md5 Jan 27 03:41:58 "package/kernel/modules/fs.mk" Jan 27 03:42:04 to add Jan 27 03:42:07 ? Jan 27 03:42:13 i added that here Jan 27 03:42:13 that's not right Jan 27 03:42:24 no ? Jan 27 03:42:50 nls-base should already be added by $(call AddDepends/nls) Jan 27 03:43:02 kmod-nls-base I mean Jan 27 03:43:12 if required by that platform Jan 27 03:43:18 (not all platforms do) Jan 27 03:43:34 hmm Jan 27 03:43:36 maybe yours has changed from doesn't to does Jan 27 03:43:41 im on orion platform Jan 27 03:43:56 there is no many things in "package/kernel/modules/001-depends.mk" Jan 27 03:44:00 hmac and md5 are suggested rather than dependencies AIUI Jan 27 03:44:05 yea Jan 27 03:44:12 only on use Jan 27 03:44:19 not at boot time Jan 27 03:44:33 right, because not all situations require them Jan 27 03:44:46 dunno, dont have Win95 to check ;) Jan 27 03:44:49 hence making them a dependency would be wrong Jan 27 03:45:09 the problem is the error message is not clear Jan 27 03:45:22 (kernel one i think) Jan 27 03:45:27 VFS CIFS Jan 27 03:45:28 hmmm...well that should be more easily fixed perhaps Jan 27 03:45:45 could you open a ticket suggesting a better error message? Jan 27 03:46:02 hehe a comment is not enough ? Jan 27 03:46:08 in same ticket ? Jan 27 03:46:22 oh, you have one...sorry didn't see it Jan 27 03:46:32 CIFS VFS: could not allocate crypto hmacmd5 Jan 27 03:47:14 maybe a space is missing Jan 27 03:47:20 between hmac and md5 Jan 27 03:47:28 I think you're right Jan 27 03:48:10 but yea, there are cpus with hw crypto Jan 27 03:48:29 so maybe md5 could be provided by another module (not sure about that) Jan 27 03:48:46 hmm....hadn't thought of that....I think you're right hw could supply the crypto instead Jan 27 03:49:11 crypto-ocf or something like that Jan 27 03:49:36 mv-cesa for AES Jan 27 03:49:48 yeah Jan 27 03:50:12 marvell, c? aes (mv-caes) you mean? Jan 27 03:50:22 euh Jan 27 03:50:28 i check the name Jan 27 03:50:49 CONFIG_DEFAULT_kmod-crypto-mv-cesa Jan 27 03:51:01 name of the module :p Jan 27 03:51:03 hmmm....interesting. wonder what it stands for Jan 27 03:51:15 its for AP Jan 27 03:51:21 the AES Jan 27 03:51:34 I mean the acronymn cesa Jan 27 03:51:48 it probably means something to somebody Jan 27 03:52:14 http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org/msg03697.html Jan 27 03:53:25 iDMA support and wires up the CESA engine Jan 27 03:53:42 maybe a marvell name of the unit Jan 27 03:54:14 could be...it's not on wikipedia anyway Jan 27 03:54:27 i check the datasheet... Jan 27 03:55:56 http://tpruvot.free.fr/files/MV88F5182-opensource-manual.pdf Jan 27 03:56:05 nothing Jan 27 03:56:24 hmmmm....oh well, life little mysteries I guess Jan 27 03:56:29 *life's Jan 27 03:56:43 http://tpruvot.free.fr/files/MV88F5182-opensource-manual.pdf Jan 27 03:56:47 arf Jan 27 03:57:02 Security Cryptographic Engine Jan 27 03:57:21 http://tpruvot.free.fr/files/MV88F5182-usermanual.pdf Jan 27 03:57:29 there is details here Jan 27 03:57:31 heh, knew it meant something Jan 27 03:57:34 page 5 Jan 27 03:58:02 AES, DES MD5 3DES SHA1 Jan 27 03:58:14 so look like its not linked to cifs :p Jan 27 03:58:42 heh, right Jan 27 03:59:05 A = accelerator Jan 27 03:59:12 Security Accelerator Jan 27 03:59:32 Crypto Engine and Security Accelerator i think Jan 27 03:59:38 makes sense Jan 27 03:59:45 yea Jan 27 03:59:52 its title of chapter 11 Jan 27 03:59:54 maybe even no and Jan 27 04:00:00 heh Jan 27 04:00:04 or with :) Jan 27 04:00:27 Cryptographic Engines and Security Accelerator Jan 27 04:00:32 exactly Jan 27 04:00:34 who ever knew such choice could make life difficult ;-) Jan 27 04:00:47 4 engines, independant Jan 27 04:00:54 interesting Jan 27 04:01:01 so you could have four threads at once? Jan 27 04:01:52 not really Jan 27 04:01:59 yea Jan 27 04:02:06 but they cant do all the same things Jan 27 04:02:33 ah, so you if you had four different types of encryption you could do them at the same time, but no two the same? Jan 27 04:02:49 its like a FPU, you send and wait result Jan 27 04:02:53 right Jan 27 04:03:09 or a DSP probably Jan 27 04:03:48 though I think a DSP needs more guidance from supporting software Jan 27 04:03:57 hmmm Jan 27 04:04:02 maybe they can do 4 threads Jan 27 04:04:37 well, I've got to go....my dog is getting anxious to get outside Jan 27 04:05:09 HMAC is supported too Jan 27 04:05:33 ok.. :) good walk Jan 27 04:06:38 Yea and HMAC-MD5 directly Jan 27 04:07:25 sysupgrade... Jan 27 04:33:05 blogic: ping Jan 27 04:34:32 * The 5082/5181l/5182/6082/6082l/6183 have crypto Jan 27 04:34:32 * while 5180n/5181/5281 don't have crypto. Jan 27 04:35:13 good question, my uboot tells 5181l Jan 27 04:36:39 Orion ID: MV88F5181-Rev-B1. TCLK=166666667. Jan 27 04:38:07 jow_laptop: ping? Jan 27 04:47:30 no... ok mv_cesa is unused on our routers Jan 27 04:47:53 cpu is 5181 Jan 27 05:27:09 Hi anyone have some idea fix this error: http://tksite.gotdns.org:8010/broken_packages/xburst/fetchmail/compile.txt Jan 27 06:03:30 a missing include i think Jan 27 06:03:42 i dont have sources of fetchmail here to check Jan 27 06:03:51 md5c.c Jan 27 06:08:09 MD5Context Jan 27 06:08:22 struct (declared in fm_md5.h) Jan 27 06:08:33 http://gitorious.org/fetchmail/fetchmail/blobs/master/fm_md5.h Jan 27 06:13:05 Epsylon3: yes. I just check the "config.h" in fetchmail. it's have "#define HAVE_MD5_H 1" Jan 27 06:13:48 Epsylon3: but in STAGING_DIR/usr/include, there is no "md5.h" , that is why the md5c.c don't have the right head file Jan 27 06:14:10 hmmm check you have fm_md5 in fetchmail dir Jan 27 06:14:13 .h Jan 27 06:14:47 http://gitorious.org/fetchmail/fetchmail/blobs/master/md5c.c#line18 Jan 27 06:14:49 like here Jan 27 06:14:52 (trunk) Jan 27 06:15:29 Epsylon3: my version fm_md5.h is different with trunk version. Jan 27 06:16:03 MD5Context is in ? Jan 27 06:16:03 Epsylon3:the openwrt version of fetchmail fm_md5.h have such lines: Jan 27 06:16:04 #ifdef HAVE_MD5_H Jan 27 06:16:05 #include Jan 27 06:16:05 #else Jan 27 06:16:20 Epsylon3: it's have. but here is a define ^ Jan 27 06:16:33 oh Jan 27 06:16:41 ok i see Jan 27 06:17:00 so check your crypto module crypto-md5 Jan 27 06:17:05 its needed Jan 27 06:17:13 in kernel modules Jan 27 06:18:51 checking for library containing MD5Init... no Jan 27 06:20:01 http://manpages.unixforum.co.uk/man-pages/unix/freebsd-6.2/9/MD5Init-man-page.html Jan 27 06:20:05 #include Jan 27 06:20:20 dunno if only is ok Jan 27 06:25:26 Epsylon3: just tried , not working. Jan 27 06:25:30 Epsylon3: check this : http://gitorious.org/fetchmail/fetchmail/commit/738dcc102db67a741893e2979c034df9904e2925 Jan 27 06:25:49 Epsylon3: we need update to fetchmail to trunk version :) Jan 27 06:26:20 yea Jan 27 06:26:29 or disable HAVE_MD5 Jan 27 06:26:46 undef HAVE_MD5_H Jan 27 06:27:07 or... just include fm_md5 :) Jan 27 06:30:53 Epsylon3: yes, compare to create a patch , I would like update the fetchmail package's Makefile Jan 27 06:31:56 hmm wait next tag :) Jan 27 06:34:13 Epsylon3: how to check tag in gitorious.org? Jan 27 06:34:32 on the right... but gitorious is buggy Jan 27 06:34:36 git clone :) Jan 27 06:35:40 hmm Wednesday December 15 2010 Jan 27 06:35:56 http://gitorious.org/fetchmail/fetchmail/commits/next Jan 27 06:38:35 did you check you have md5 in kernel ? Jan 27 06:38:52 selected Jan 27 06:39:22 git clone http://git.gitorious.org/fetchmail/fetchmail.git; git tag Jan 27 06:41:55 sysupgrade... Jan 27 06:42:41 Epsylon3: md5 disabled in kernel. Jan 27 07:21:55 ^^ Jan 27 07:31:59 xiangfu : how to become a slave ? ^^ Jan 27 07:32:15 in build system... Jan 27 07:32:24 http://tksite.gotdns.org:8010/builders/orion Jan 27 07:34:25 howto include adm8668 in build system? :D Jan 27 07:34:47 i've a box with Gigabit connection Jan 27 07:36:34 feed install adm8668 -d m ? Jan 27 07:36:40 scripts/feed install adm8668 -d m ? Jan 27 07:36:42 Epsylon3: sorry for my bad English. don't understand "how to become a slave ?" what buildslave do? what should I do ? Jan 27 07:37:02 on the page : http://tksite.gotdns.org:8010/builders/orion Jan 27 07:37:11 we can see build "slaves" Jan 27 07:38:02 because, i compile the orion trunk 5 times per days ;) Jan 27 07:38:56 http://epsy.ath.cx:88/orion/ Jan 27 07:39:07 Epsylon3: hmm... I build out openwrt every two days. because the build need ~ 30 hours. include ~2400 packages Jan 27 07:39:14 s/out/our Jan 27 07:39:40 ouch Jan 27 07:39:54 :) yea in fact i dont compile every package Jan 27 07:40:21 the build slaves are users or computers? Jan 27 07:40:38 in fact i dunno Jan 27 07:40:48 its why i ask the question Jan 27 07:41:13 Epsylon3: I also don't know this buildbot. :( Jan 27 07:41:51 Epsylon3: we have two computer for develop openwrt, one is buildhost , build every two days. Jan 27 07:42:03 Epsylon3: http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/compile-log/ :) Jan 27 07:42:20 Epsylon3: those are compile script files : http://fidelio.qi-hardware.com/~xiangfu/bin/ Jan 27 07:42:24 30 hours sounds like a long time. I used to be able to build all of Astlinux (about 200 packages) in 2 hours on a Quad core Phenom-II w/ 8GB and a RAID array. Jan 27 07:42:45 ouch Jan 27 07:42:52 and how many Watts ? :p Jan 27 07:42:55 of course, you take the hit running "configure" over and over... since it can be parallelized. Jan 27 07:43:01 500W Jan 27 07:43:04 my box is 20W :p Jan 27 07:43:11 philipp64|laptop: my computer is not that good. 2GB mem, AMD 3.0G cpu Jan 27 07:43:14 Atom 330 Jan 27 07:43:17 dual core HT Jan 27 07:43:50 If I had 3 SSD's in a RAID array, I think I could cut it down by 30%. Jan 27 07:43:54 with ccache Jan 27 07:44:15 yea... Jan 27 07:44:19 i've one here Jan 27 07:44:21 Vertex 2 Jan 27 07:44:24 but after a while, everything basically fits into about 5GB of cache anyway... Jan 27 07:44:31 on my main computer, for web projects Jan 27 07:44:52 to search in sources Jan 27 07:45:03 anyway, time for bed. Jan 27 07:45:05 i think about buying one for my little box :) Jan 27 07:45:16 a bed? Jan 27 07:45:23 hehe :)) Jan 27 07:45:35 what's a vertex 2? Jan 27 07:45:40 OCZ Vertex 2 Jan 27 07:45:44 350 MB/s Jan 27 07:46:07 hmm Jan 27 07:46:19 no Jan 27 07:46:21 285MB Jan 27 07:46:31 in read or write Jan 27 07:46:43 its cheap Jan 27 07:46:46 yeah... having the 0 seek time is nice. :-) Jan 27 07:46:57 yea Jan 27 07:47:01 what's "cheap"? Jan 27 07:47:10 90 euros for the 60GB Jan 27 07:47:23 120 USD Jan 27 07:47:44 but price is bigger now... weird :)) Jan 27 07:47:48 a 200GB Intel SSD is $300 here. Jan 27 07:47:49 200 packages 2 hours : 2400 packages 24 hours. :) Jan 27 07:49:17 maybe 2x100Mb is better than 1x200 :) Jan 27 07:50:37 now we have many sata ports Jan 27 07:51:25 http://www.guruht.com/2010/01/ocz-vertex-2-ssd-pro-sandforce-vs-intel.html Jan 27 07:51:31 ^^ Jan 27 07:53:22 Critical Feature Comparison of OCZ and Intel SSD's: Jan 27 07:53:24 OCZ Vertex 2 60 GB Jan 27 07:53:26 Max Read: up to 285 MB/s, Jan 27 07:53:28 Max Write: up to 275 MB/s, Jan 27 07:53:30 Sustained Write: up to 250 MB/s, 4k Random Write (Aligned): 50,000 IOPS, Seek Time: 0.1ms Jan 27 07:53:32 INTEL X25M 80 GB SSD Jan 27 07:53:34 Native Command Queuing, which enables up to 32 simultaneous operations. Jan 27 07:53:36 sustained sequential read speeds of up to 250 MBps, Jan 27 07:53:38 sustained sequential write speeds of up to 70 MBps, Jan 27 07:53:40 and a read latency of just 85 microseconds. Jan 27 07:55:24 a good article : http://www.storagereview.com/ocz_vertex_2_review_120gb Jan 27 07:57:08 1.5W max :) Jan 27 07:59:46 just got my 2x2GB memory. rebooting :) Jan 27 08:02:02 :) Jan 27 08:02:15 xiangfu : what is "Qi" ? Jan 27 08:02:36 i see that everywhere in "chinese" projects Jan 27 08:05:02 the bootloader? Jan 27 08:05:56 In traditional Chinese culture, qi (; pronounced in English; in Standard Mandarin; Korean: gi; Japanese: ki; Vietnamese: kh�, ) is an active principle forming part of any living thing. Jan 27 08:08:48 gmorning Jan 27 08:09:48 Hi. Jan 27 08:09:53 yea Jan 27 08:09:58 Chi Jan 27 08:10:08 in french Jan 27 08:10:18 Mana in gamer :) Jan 27 08:10:37 Energy Jan 27 08:11:10 The Force in Starwars :) Jan 27 08:11:31 i really need to sleep... Jan 27 08:11:41 but i wait my new netgear :p Jan 27 08:12:02 neutronscott: interesting Jan 27 08:12:35 Epsylon3: do you see it in living products? Jan 27 08:13:32 hmm Jan 27 08:13:51 static discharges ? :) Jan 27 08:13:55 EMI ? Jan 27 08:15:04 dynamic ones Jan 27 08:17:11 oh "living products" = "produits de beaut�" ? Jan 27 08:18:29 cosmetics ? Jan 27 08:19:05 hmm no Jan 27 08:19:27 yoghurt and cheese Jan 27 08:19:33 :P Jan 27 08:19:35 ohh Jan 27 08:19:59 no i dont ;p Jan 27 08:20:05 maybe in eggs Jan 27 08:20:06 :p Jan 27 08:20:27 and salad Jan 27 08:21:04 what are you going on about! Jan 27 08:21:14 about Tsi Jan 27 08:21:22 Chi? Jan 27 08:22:12 yea Qi at first :) Jan 27 08:22:24 i know the boot loader yea Jan 27 08:22:33 tres interesont Jan 27 08:23:19 well lets use Qi on the Apple TV 2 and port openwrt Jan 27 08:23:28 ^^ Jan 27 08:23:36 it'd make an interesting AP Jan 27 08:23:38 or Samsung ones Jan 27 08:23:49 Serial port is on VGA pins 4 and 11 Jan 27 08:23:53 :) Jan 27 08:24:00 really... Jan 27 08:24:02 mandarin apple Jan 27 08:24:13 samsung what? Jan 27 08:24:36 Samsung TVs (AllShare / Internet@TV) Jan 27 08:24:57 oh actual TV. that'd be silly Jan 27 08:25:11 http://tobias.schroepf.de/doku/doku.php?id=garage:samsung_tv_hacking Jan 27 08:25:16 apple tv is $99 and about the likes of a SheevaPlug Jan 27 08:25:52 1.5inch screen? Jan 27 08:26:19 !p i use a 32" TV for my main LCD screen Jan 27 08:26:29 1920x1080 :) Jan 27 08:26:37 apple tv? no screen. is set-top box version of ipod really Jan 27 08:26:52 a tv withous screen? cool Jan 27 08:26:56 a 23" on the right, and a 4:3 22" on the left Jan 27 08:27:19 you're rich. Jan 27 08:27:35 a 23" cost 250 USD Jan 27 08:28:02 the tv... hmm 375 EUR Jan 27 08:28:09 oh, i forget, all my money goes to a wife Jan 27 08:28:13 :D Jan 27 08:28:23 haha, me no... i ve made the choice Jan 27 08:28:37 i live like in "Friends" Jan 27 08:28:41 else i would have more gadgets Jan 27 08:28:41 we are 5 here Jan 27 08:29:02 yes. share rent. Jan 27 08:29:06 yea Jan 27 08:29:13 dunno the english word :) Jan 27 08:29:22 share rent. Jan 27 08:29:23 roommate? Jan 27 08:29:31 you can buy cheap gadgets from chinese e-shops Jan 27 08:29:53 yea :p i do that Jan 27 08:29:58 i ve some tablets Jan 27 08:29:59