**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Feb 22 02:59:58 2011 Feb 22 03:12:14 yeah... now pick one. :-) Feb 22 03:13:41 its for laptops leds Feb 22 03:17:36 you use openwrt on a pc ? Feb 22 03:18:01 no, there's a variety there... Feb 22 03:20:47 btw, how does a makefile know if -jN (for N > 1) has been turned on or not? Feb 22 03:20:57 I tried to look into it, and it's nontrivial. Feb 22 03:24:32 http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/Makefile?a=arm#L818 Feb 22 03:24:46 dunno if that will help Feb 22 03:25:34 what am I looking for? Feb 22 03:25:47 http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/Makefile?a=arm#L759 Feb 22 03:25:58 they talk about -j flag Feb 22 03:26:38 right, but that's a workaround when it's been set. it doesn't help determine if it's been set or not. Feb 22 03:27:02 although I'm not sure why -j1 would require it. Feb 22 03:28:07 when you compile with j2 Feb 22 03:28:15 you have [N] in stdout Feb 22 03:28:33 so you need to find the where its output Feb 22 03:28:49 the script Feb 22 03:33:45 can you look at $(MAKE) which should contain the current make call with all its args as it was invoked? Feb 22 03:47:12 no, that's just "make". And $(MAKEFLAGS) and $(MFLAGS) don't help either. Feb 22 03:49:13 ouch Feb 22 03:49:15 *** Warning - bad CRC, using default environment Feb 22 03:50:30 or maybe its my reboot irq func which is working :p Feb 22 03:51:25 yes =) Feb 22 03:51:40 working when i hold reset button Feb 22 03:52:54 lol Feb 22 03:57:38 damn Feb 22 03:59:13 this time it auto reboot :( Feb 22 03:59:27 need to deal with uboot upload... dunno if that works Feb 22 04:00:16 MAKEFLAGS for me is set after i pass -j Feb 22 04:01:11 oh but no , i see what you are saying Feb 22 04:01:31 ok 192.168.1.2 is tftp server :p Feb 22 04:03:29 i think i just found how to test kernels faster !=) Feb 22 04:03:50 learning from mistakes.... really human thing Feb 22 04:18:58 rmmm Feb 22 04:19:15 Marvell>> tftpboot 0x400000 0101A8C0.img Feb 22 04:19:20 that loads Feb 22 04:19:27 but nothing after Feb 22 04:19:34 > done Feb 22 04:19:35 Bytes transferred = 918632 (e0468 hex) Feb 22 04:27:03 ok bootm 0x400000; Feb 22 04:27:05 hmm Feb 22 04:57:05 finished :) Feb 22 04:57:27 wnr854t has know a reset button handled without module Feb 22 05:25:45 Kaloz : just sent updated wnr854t-setup.c Feb 22 05:25:52 on your email Feb 22 05:35:58 build #78 of rb532 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://tksite.gotdns.org:8010/builders/rb532/builds/78 Feb 22 05:36:34 https://dev.openwrt.org/attachment/ticket/8729/wnr854t-setup.2.c Feb 22 06:50:12 ^^ found how to enable/disable wifi led :) Feb 22 06:50:12 root@OpenWrt:/tmp# io -w 0xe8004014 4 Feb 22 06:50:12 root@OpenWrt:/tmp# io -w 0xe8004014 0 Feb 22 06:50:34 for ath5213A and 5414A cards Feb 22 08:10:58 <[florian]> philipp64|laptop: I am not surprised, because I replaced the stupid coreutils package with all its submodule Feb 22 09:07:44 good thing, these tools are in busybox Feb 22 11:17:47 jow * r25657 /packages/utils/shadow/patches/ (7 files): [packages] shadow: reorder patches, prevent dependency on librpc Feb 22 11:29:56 build #90 of s3c24xx is complete: Failure [failed shell compile_6] Build details are at http://tksite.gotdns.org:8010/builders/s3c24xx/builds/90 Feb 22 12:13:30 mirko * r25658 /packages/Xorg/lib/qt4/files/qmake.mk: Feb 22 12:13:30 [packages/qt4] some Qt-internal paths are magically getting appended to TARGET_{INC,LIB}DIRS - however _only_ to the very last element (so the last elem should be the staging-dir - not the toolchain-dir) Feb 22 12:13:30 thanks to kyak for pointing this out! Feb 22 12:13:41 mirko * r25659 /packages/Xorg/lib/qt4/files/qmake.mk: [packages/qt4] we need to pass all the environment variables not just to $(QMAKE) but also to $(MAKE), because Makefiles may invoke qmake once again for creating further Makefiles Feb 22 12:13:49 mirko * r25660 /packages/Xorg/lib/qt4/files/qmake.mk: [packages/qt4] add the possibility of specifying and passing a path relative to $(PKG_BUILD_DIR) to qmake for *.pro files lying in subdirectories Feb 22 12:29:05 build #72 of uml is complete: Failure [failed compile_10] Build details are at http://tksite.gotdns.org:8010/builders/uml/builds/72 Feb 22 13:10:02 build #73 of avr32 is complete: Failure [failed compile_4] Build details are at http://tksite.gotdns.org:8010/builders/avr32/builds/73 Feb 22 14:18:38 jow * r25661 /trunk/target/linux/avr32/patches/001-use_generic_syscall_defines.patch: [avr32] drop obsolete patch Feb 22 14:51:36 jow * r25662 /packages/net/lftp/Makefile: [packages] lftp: link libc for atexit() - fixes compilation against most recent uClibc Feb 22 16:43:59 hmm Feb 22 16:44:13 that ar7 build should be ready in a while Feb 22 16:45:02 wonder if wifi will work on it... or it will be unable to connect again :\ Feb 22 16:59:05 * PsyMan looks ar builder Feb 22 16:59:13 * PsyMan looks at builder Feb 22 17:43:21 build #73 of x86 is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://tksite.gotdns.org:8010/builders/x86/builds/73 Feb 22 21:04:50 mirko * r25663 /packages/devel/oprofile/patches/200-rename-i386-to-x86.patch: [packages/oprofile] rename i386 to x86 to match $(LINUX_KARCH) when compiling for x86 Feb 22 21:30:38 zandbelt * r25664 /packages/net/asterisk-1.8.x/Makefile: [packages] asterisk-1.8.x: add mysql modules Feb 22 23:30:38 I have a package that replaces the STD linux bridge, how can I ensure that the package is "prepared" before the kernel is compiled so that the source can be copied over Feb 22 23:31:54 stuffa: can it not be built separately outside of the kernel tree? Feb 22 23:32:25 packages should never change the kernel tree Feb 22 23:34:38 I could. but I would like it to replace the std bridge, partially to ensure that it is not present. If I make it seperatly then I have to build it outside the kernel, them the question becomes, how can my package disable the linux bridge. Feb 22 23:35:08 why does it need to disable the linux bridge? Feb 22 23:35:20 and what are you trying to accomplish by replacing the linux bridge? Feb 22 23:36:22 My bridge is a 1-1 compatable with the existing bridge, but is supports a bunch of features not found in the std bridge Feb 22 23:36:41 what kinds of features? Feb 22 23:36:45 It supports, vlans, RSTP, SNMP stats etc Feb 22 23:37:33 is the code available somewhere where i can take a look? Feb 22 23:37:43 to date I have just been replacing linux source, but now I would like to make it a package Feb 22 23:38:35 Not yet, we will be releasing it shortly, Its currently only on my machine Feb 22 23:38:50 and still has some BIG issues Feb 22 23:38:53 stuffa: focuson on doing it as a generic kernel patch Feb 22 23:39:13 stuffa: this will make it ewasier for you now and easier for us later should you decide to submit it Feb 22 23:39:27 rstp sounds very interesting, snmp as well - we could need that at work :) Feb 22 23:39:41 Yeah, Thats an option, but its a big patch Feb 22 23:39:57 it mainly creates files? Feb 22 23:40:12 True.. Feb 22 23:40:20 target/linux/generic/files/ Feb 22 23:40:28 Ok.. Ill go the patch path.. Feb 22 23:40:34 and put only kconfig integration and actual modifications into the patch counterpart Feb 22 23:40:42 can you give me a preview of that patch? Feb 22 23:40:53 maybe i can figure out an easier way to integrate it then Feb 22 23:42:15 I will stick it on a SVN server and post the URL shortly Feb 22 23:42:19 ok Feb 22 23:42:28 btw. what can it do with vlans that cannot be done with the existing code? Feb 22 23:42:44 MAC based VLANs Feb 22 23:42:51 linux already has that Feb 22 23:42:55 it's called macvlan Feb 22 23:43:30 right now this project sounds like massive code duplication that you can't easily push into upstream linux Feb 22 23:44:09 have you considered implementing rstp in user space? Feb 22 23:44:17 imho it should be possible to do this with the existing bridge code Feb 22 23:44:30 The MAC valn is used in wireless envroments where there is only one SSID. packes are allocated to a VLAN based on there SRC DST MAC address. Its a special requirement that I dont expect anyone else will want, but we do Feb 22 23:45:02 mac80211 has something better natively Feb 22 23:45:25 it can create 'AP VLAN' interfaces, where you can move stations into separate interfaces Feb 22 23:45:29 I am on a 2.4 kernel, I thought about adding the userspace APIs, but time is against me, so I went for the modified bridge option Feb 22 23:45:47 2.4 kernel is not supported by openwrt trunk Feb 22 23:46:58 correct, Im still using 8.09, once I have a broadcom issue with trunk sorted, we will be moving to 2.6 kernel, but now it is still 2.4 Feb 22 23:47:46 ok, then i suggest keeping what you have for 2.4, but using the user space api for 2.6 Feb 22 23:47:54 my guess is you'll actually save a lot of time that way Feb 22 23:47:59 I aggree Feb 22 23:48:46 I want to move all mods to userspace. Maintance is much easier Feb 23 00:25:07 ^^ Feb 23 00:25:19 opkg install io Feb 23 00:25:33 i found wifi led this morning :) Feb 23 00:26:51 howd ya lose it Feb 23 00:27:51 i found my power led one time but it turns out its on a voip chip and requires some spi protocols Feb 23 00:28:15 anyone wanna tackle that one for me? :) Feb 23 00:28:20 the wifi led is controlled by the mini pci card Feb 23 00:28:24 atheros gpio Feb 23 00:28:37 if i could make a patch to add interface is /sys/class/gpio Feb 23 00:28:56 and/or sys/class/leds Feb 23 00:29:10 if u export it gpio than use gpioleds Feb 23 00:29:20 yes, to do that Feb 23 00:29:35 to be compatible with luci led config Feb 23 00:29:47 have u looked at the other platforms gpio.c? Feb 23 00:29:50 madwifi and ath5k doesnt support leds Feb 23 00:30:07 not really Feb 23 00:30:13 i will Feb 23 00:30:19 mostly just changing memory addresses methinks Feb 23 00:30:22 ath9k has this interface Feb 23 00:31:00 since atheros boards are "standard" Feb 23 00:31:01 oh, are you saying the wifi driver should do it vice the platform? Feb 23 00:31:18 not really Feb 23 00:31:32 because the wifi card is mini pci Feb 23 00:31:35 my board uses 3 gpio's from the wifi pci Feb 23 00:31:59 but yea, i checked the board Feb 23 00:32:07 and this pin seems also connected to the cpu Feb 23 00:32:11 i was able to make it do gpio but lost my work-in-progress heh Feb 23 00:32:13 pci pin 11 Feb 23 00:32:43 i think its an input Feb 23 00:32:54 gpiotoggling doesnt flash this led... Feb 23 00:33:16 what Feb 23 00:33:30 a module to test cpu gpios Feb 23 00:33:33 maybe you found the input/output register vs the on/off Feb 23 00:34:05 for the atheros, no Feb 23 00:34:14 in fact i found that with ath_info tool Feb 23 00:34:20 which can toggle gpios Feb 23 00:34:24 oh i see. the gpiotoggling doesnt control it at all but with 'io' u got it Feb 23 00:34:32 yea Feb 23 00:35:02 i dont understand this pin11 stuff tho Feb 23 00:35:04 so, i need to create a "standard" interface to gpio and/or led Feb 23 00:35:19 in fact all mini pci boards have 4 pins for leds Feb 23 00:35:25 2 leds in fact Feb 23 00:35:29 pin 11 and pin 12 Feb 23 00:35:35 and 2 GND for leds Feb 23 00:36:00 its in pci standard Feb 23 00:37:02 you say the led is on mini-pci pin 11/12 Feb 23 00:37:13 those say 3.3v/gnd Feb 23 00:38:00 oh sorry. typeIII says led huh Feb 23 00:38:43 yea Mini PCI Card Type III Feb 23 00:38:47 :) Feb 23 00:39:06 i checked Feb 23 00:39:10 still should be platform driver Feb 23 00:39:20 if i ground pin 11, the led is lighting Feb 23 00:39:25 i dont think putting it in PCI driver would be wisest eh Feb 23 00:39:57 i need to check on other routers Feb 23 00:40:06 its we Feb 23 00:40:19 weird, the 0 set the led on Feb 23 00:40:52 whacca poking at Feb 23 00:41:00 ohh Feb 23 00:41:16 i maybe have grounded the gnd :)) Feb 23 00:41:56 i dont understand why it a specific gnd for that Feb 23 00:42:02 it is Feb 23 00:42:21 erf no Feb 23 00:42:23 LED1_GRNP Feb 23 00:42:26 Green Power Feb 23 00:42:36 pin 13 LED1_GRNN Feb 23 00:42:39 LED1_GRNN Feb 23 00:43:05 when i make 13 and 11 together, the led is on Feb 23 00:43:20 (was a mistake when using my voltmeter) Feb 23 00:44:02 i dont have checked the pin 12.. it on the wrong side Feb 23 00:44:46 also... a thing to know... mini pciexpress has usb D+ and D6 pins :) Feb 23 00:44:52 and D- Feb 23 00:45:18 i have read of some embedded boards which say "mini pci-e, must be usb enabled" Feb 23 00:45:25 and JTAG Feb 23 00:45:30 meaning only the usb signals are there Feb 23 00:45:51 damn Feb 23 00:45:53 would be tough to find correct card for such things methinks Feb 23 00:45:59 Hi Feb 23 00:46:01 http://pinouts.ru/Slots/pci_express_pinout.shtml Feb 23 00:46:03 dg834g support still broken Feb 23 00:46:08 even the pci X 1x Feb 23 00:46:21 does not designate ips Feb 23 00:46:29 can't access the router Feb 23 00:46:32 hmm 1x doesnt have usb Feb 23 00:46:59 hmm Feb 23 00:47:07 need another source to check Feb 23 00:47:34 http://pinoutsguide.com/Slots/mini_pcie_pinout.shtml Feb 23 00:47:47 three leds Feb 23 00:47:55 usb and smbus Feb 23 00:48:03 no jtag Feb 23 00:49:27 i had a dg834g :p Feb 23 00:49:43 was working until tftp tst Feb 23 00:49:44 test Feb 23 00:50:48 wow usb3 need 9 or 11 pins Feb 23 00:51:09 until wha? Feb 23 00:51:32 PsyMan : still broken Feb 23 00:51:39 n Feb 23 00:51:44 its now a switch :p Feb 23 00:52:26 ah Feb 23 00:52:44 jtag? Feb 23 00:53:00 there is no jtag pin :( Feb 23 00:53:10 what sort of cpu Feb 23 00:53:21 ar7 if i remember Feb 23 00:53:52 Netgear dg834gv2 Feb 23 00:54:04 dsl? Feb 23 00:54:55 http://tpruvot.free.fr/files/fcc450682_dg834gv2.pdf Feb 23 00:55:00 yea Feb 23 00:56:08 v5 is arm, says wikipedia Feb 23 00:56:20 yeah, tried latest compiled build on that... it's still broken :~( Feb 23 00:56:22 yea, it is Feb 23 00:56:37 almost all are arm :p Feb 23 00:56:39 (v2) Feb 23 00:56:43 except mips Feb 23 00:56:49 what!? Feb 23 00:56:59 routers Feb 23 00:57:16 most i see is mips Feb 23 00:57:38 i have 0 experience with arm Feb 23 00:57:43 * xMff counts 11 mips devices on the desk and 2 arm Feb 23 00:57:50 maybe once i begin porting to AppleTV ;) Feb 23 00:58:15 all phones are arm too Feb 23 00:58:27 new phones i mean Feb 23 00:58:34 smartphones Feb 23 00:58:37 my tv is arm too Feb 23 00:58:41 :) Feb 23 00:58:51 yea all android ones Feb 23 00:59:06 armv5te minimum requirement Feb 23 01:00:13 reading, mips began as a very simple research chip Feb 23 01:00:29 maybe arm has better ideas from ground-up Feb 23 01:02:57 i tried to compile busybox with the NDK... its a hell Feb 23 01:03:21 arm-android-eabi-gcc Feb 23 01:10:01 build #69 of xburst is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://tksite.gotdns.org:8010/builders/xburst/builds/69 Feb 23 01:11:36 I cant seem to connect the lan ports on my wndr3700 with r25635. WAN port works, I built an image without the firewall and I can telnet in via the WAN. Feb 23 01:13:44 embedded config? Feb 23 01:14:28 xMff: I'm not sure what you mean Feb 23 01:14:42 do you include an /etc/config/network ? Feb 23 01:14:48 or all defaults Feb 23 01:15:19 all defaults, the br-lan doesn't show any bytes received Feb 23 01:15:50 hmm, checking into the bridge Feb 23 01:15:52 odd Feb 23 01:18:08 netprince_: I'd say there is no general wndr3700 breakage known, otherwise we'd have way more reports already Feb 23 01:19:26 isn't swconfig required for this hardware? Feb 23 01:20:15 it is,yes Feb 23 01:20:46 that was it, working now Feb 23 01:21:16 good Feb 23 01:22:26 xMff: thanks Feb 23 01:23:14 ^^ this pcx pinout is interresting... Feb 23 01:23:27 because orion platform supports PCX... no card but... Feb 23 01:23:37 i ve maybe found the USB pins :) Feb 23 01:25:46 and/or i2c pins which are at the same place : http://tpruvot.free.fr/files/MV88F5281-pinout.pdf Feb 23 01:26:01 marvell name them TWSSI Feb 23 01:26:05 two wire Feb 23 01:28:00 build #87 of ubicom32 is complete: Failure [failed compile_3] Build details are at http://tksite.gotdns.org:8010/builders/ubicom32/builds/87 Feb 23 01:28:16 why wont builder make adm8668 :\ Feb 23 01:37:47 I am trying to compile my local OpenWRT with a r25661 for a Seagate DockStar and the compilation spitted out this error message => make[2]: *** No rule to make target `package/feeds/packages/gettext/host/compile', needed by `package/feeds/packages/glib2/host/compile'. Stop. Feb 23 01:39:36 install gettext ? Feb 23 01:39:44 apt-get install gettext Feb 23 01:40:25 mazilo: isn't that what 25601 fixed? Feb 23 01:43:29 philipp64|laptop: I have no idea. :( Feb 23 01:44:27 looking at the description and the patch, I'd say it's a good bet it fixes it. go ahead and svn update to that revision. Feb 23 01:44:36 philipp64|laptop: I ran into so many problems compiling OpenWRT. If it is not gettext issue, it would be libinconv issue. Feb 23 01:44:51 yeah, there Feb 23 01:45:03 there's been a bit of churn in that area lately. Feb 23 01:45:06 philipp64|laptop: OK and I will give that a try. Will report back. Feb 23 01:45:15 philipp64|laptop: :( Feb 23 01:46:08 philipp64|laptop: I believe this all started to crop up when uClibc-0.9.3.1 was pulled out. Feb 23 01:49:18 mazilo: when was the last time you ran ./scripts/feeds update? Feb 23 01:49:29 do you have all of /packages installed or just a few parts? Feb 23 01:50:23 that issue definitely has nothing to do with the uclibc version Feb 23 01:50:32 and for me uclibc 0.9.32 works for more packages than 0.9.31 Feb 23 01:51:10 ndb: Almost everyday I did an 'svn up' and 'make package/symlinks' which calls './scripts/feeds update -a' and './feeds install -a' Feb 23 01:52:02 ndb: I have no problems to compile ar71xx with 0.9.32. Feb 23 01:52:47 was the dockstar tree clean? Feb 23 01:53:08 i mean was it a fresh checkout Feb 23 01:53:16 ndb: But, I am encountering problems compiling for Marvell Kirkwood for DockStar for almost a week since you last helped me with upgrades of uClibc to 0.9.32. Feb 23 01:53:31 ndb: Yes. I do 'make dirclean' every time. Feb 23 01:54:13 ndb: I am thinking to create a new directory and start all over from scratch. Feb 23 01:57:13 philipp64|laptop: I did a fall back with 'svn up -r 25601' and the compilation still spits out the same error message (make[2]: *** No rule to make target `package/feeds/packages/gettext/host/compile', needed by `package/feeds/packages/glib2/host/compile'. Stop.) Feb 23 01:57:47 show me the contents of tmp/.packagedeps Feb 23 02:00:11 ndb: The file is about 40KB. I tried to use 'kate tmp/.packagedeps' to pastebin but fails. Feb 23 02:00:26 ndb: I meant 400KB in size. Feb 23 02:01:20 you could email it to nbd nbd.name Feb 23 02:02:07 nbd: uh, hang on... looking at 25599 the definition for Host/Compile looks empty... is that right? Feb 23 02:02:15 yes Feb 23 02:02:40 ok. Feb 23 02:06:35 nsb: I have just e-mailed you the tmp/.packagedeps file you requested. Feb 23 02:07:35 hm, shouldn't kmod-crypto-hw-geode depend on TARGET_x86 or something? Feb 23 02:07:59 ndb: I have just e-mailed you the tmp/.packagedeps file you requested. Feb 23 02:08:32 mazilo: now put feeds/packages/libs/gettext/Makefile into a pastebin please Feb 23 02:10:15 ndb: Here (http://openwrt.pastebin.com/UrapwCHU) is the feeds/packages/libs/gettext/Makefile. Feb 23 02:11:03 just as i thought Feb 23 02:11:05 that is an old version Feb 23 02:11:34 so your packages feed is not up to date Feb 23 02:12:11 does it say anything if you run ./scripts/feeds update -a? Feb 23 02:12:19 ndb: Ineresting. So, when I did a 'make package/symlinks' (almost on a daily base), the feeds/packages/libs/gettext/Makefile did not get updated. I looked at the feeds/packages/libs/gettext/Makefile and it is dated on 2010/12/18. Feb 23 02:13:52 so what about running ./scripts/feeds update -a directly? Feb 23 02:15:20 ndb: Hold on please. I got some errors when doing a './scripts/feeds update -a' as shown here (http://openwrt.pastebin.com/zGHa7q4a) and need to do a 'svn cleanup' first. Feb 23 02:15:43 that's your problem right there Feb 23 02:15:59 go to feeds/packages, run svn cleanup Feb 23 02:16:05 then update the feed again Feb 23 02:16:06 ndb" Sorry about that. The 'svn cleanup' doesn't seem to clear the lock. :( Feb 23 02:16:20 did you do it in feeds/packages or in the subdirectory? Feb 23 02:16:40 ndb: I did it on the root directory. Feb 23 02:16:44 if it still doesn't work, just rm -rf feeds/packages Feb 23 02:16:47 then update feeds again Feb 23 02:17:04 maybe you interrupted a feed update at some point Feb 23 02:17:10 and svn is very stupid about handling stuff like that Feb 23 02:17:38 maybe we should just change feeds.conf.default to use git instead Feb 23 02:17:41 it's faster anyway Feb 23 02:18:40 ndb: OK. I managed to clear the lock by doing 'svn cleanup' when in feeds/packages directory. Now, I am doing a './scripts/feeds update -a'. Feb 23 02:19:09 ndb: Will report back with the compilation results. Feb 23 02:21:08 ndb: Perhaps, we should replace svn with git? Feb 23 02:26:51 ndb: I am still running into the same compilation problem. It appears the last './scripts/feeds update -a' did not replace the local feeds/packages/libs/gettext/Makefile with the latest one. Now, I del the Makefile and manually 'svn up' in the feeds/packages/libs/gettext directory, but it looks like the 'svn up' is frozen. Feb 23 02:27:14 how about simply removing feeds/packages Feb 23 02:27:16 ndb: Perhaps, I should remove the feeds/packages/libs/gettext directory and try again. Feb 23 02:27:22 all of it Feb 23 02:27:23 not just gettext Feb 23 02:27:46 http://tpruvot.free.fr/files/mv_cpu_verso.gif wooch its hard to find pins =) Feb 23 02:28:11 ndb: Did you mean the whole feeds/packages directory? Feb 23 02:28:22 mazilo: yes Feb 23 02:28:27 ndb: OK. Feb 23 02:28:38 btw. it's nbd, not ndb ;) Feb 23 02:28:54 nbd: OK. Sorry about that. Feb 23 02:29:07 what does that mean ? Feb 23 02:29:17 nbd Feb 23 02:29:34 network and broadband developper ? :p Feb 23 02:30:02 it means nothing Feb 23 02:30:23 mine is codable in one byte :) Feb 23 02:30:26 E3 Feb 23 02:32:01 my terminal prints this character as '?' Feb 23 02:32:24 yea :) Feb 23 02:32:51 in Webdings font, its a Bed Feb 23 02:34:22 its an hex signature Feb 23 02:47:33 i bet its his initals Feb 23 02:48:32 whose initials? Feb 23 02:48:36 Nico ? Feb 23 02:48:38 i dont know perl. anyone help w a quick regex? it uses a constant, i replaced it with a variable. Feb 23 02:48:56 $output =~ s/ - $//g; Feb 23 02:49:12 " - " i replaced throughout with $sep2 Feb 23 02:49:21 hmm Feb 23 02:49:28 doesnt seem to be replacable inside of that eh heh Feb 23 02:49:41 could work, but "-" symbol need a backslash \ Feb 23 02:49:48 in regex Feb 23 02:49:56 thats the original code Feb 23 02:50:03 yea Feb 23 02:50:30 a-Z 1-9 Feb 23 02:50:32 nevermind Feb 23 02:50:38 its the range symbol Feb 23 02:50:46 $output =~ s/$sep2$//g; Feb 23 02:50:49 does work Feb 23 02:51:10 guess he strips the last separator off since it might be trailing Feb 23 02:52:11 one of these days i'll learn regexs more than just s/typo/fixo/ Feb 23 02:52:16 ;) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Feb 23 02:59:56 2011