**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jun 04 03:00:00 2018 Jun 04 07:22:08 blogic: this should not have been reverted. breaks mt7620: https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/commit/8a570921b5ba49a2d3824f1220e4c53809063468 Jun 04 07:32:09 Hi any eta on 18.6 rc? Jun 04 07:35:50 Tapper: within the next four weeks Jun 04 07:36:07 OK :-) Jun 04 07:36:31 jow did you see what i said to you yesterday? Jun 04 07:36:49 About hading tags in luci? Jun 04 07:36:58 heading* Jun 04 07:40:38 Tapper: there's tags Jun 04 07:41:00 tags? Jun 04 07:42:01 I was asking about headding and table marckers so a screen reader can jump around the page by pressing keys on the keyboard Jun 04 07:42:48 jow would you like me to rite up what i meen in a better way so you can understande just what i meen? Jun 04 07:43:14 I do understand what you mean Jun 04 07:43:24 you want h1 tags or something Jun 04 07:43:40 and I said there are already legend tags in place, ypparently screen reads do not handle it properly Jun 04 07:43:59 will look into it when I find time Jun 04 08:09:08 <_lore_> ping nbd Jun 04 08:09:20 _lore_: pong Jun 04 08:09:32 <_lore_> hi, how are you? Jun 04 08:09:42 fine, thx Jun 04 08:09:44 how about you? Jun 04 08:09:58 <_lore_> fine thx Jun 04 08:11:05 <_lore_> maybe I find a typo in mrr estimation in mt76x2_mac_fill_tx_status Jun 04 08:11:13 <_lore_> https://pastebin.com/QvFfyjnM Jun 04 08:11:42 <_lore_> what do you think? Jun 04 09:00:48 aye up everyone - /me isn't from Yorkshire but decided to try it out anyway Jun 04 09:03:41 why would you want to emulate those people? P Jun 04 09:03:43 :P Jun 04 09:04:46 I have a patch that add rebase support to scripts/feeds for git-src-full feeds. Interested/useful for inclusion Jun 04 09:05:24 jwh: I've always wanted to say "Trouble at ' mill". :-) Jun 04 09:06:07 patch https://github.com/ldir-EDB0/openwrt/commit/6ee919d02a918eac07ec892b50d9be812f4d211f Jun 04 09:06:22 _lore_: makes sense to me Jun 04 09:10:47 nbd: _lore_ I mentioned an ACS problem with mt7603 the other day and wondered if any progress has been made/if I can help? Jun 04 09:12:38 <_lore_> ldir: no time to work on it yet, I was off during the we Jun 04 09:13:56 <_lore_> nbd: I added usb sg support on tx side to mt76x2u Jun 04 09:14:01 <_lore_> I am working on rx side now Jun 04 09:15:22 _lore_: no problem - yell if I can help in testing/info etc ? :-) Jun 04 09:21:23 jow yes mate you have the rite of it and thanks mate. Don't rush your self, there is more that needs doing befor you get to the h1 tags. Jun 04 09:21:39 y:-) Jun 04 09:21:43 :-) Jun 04 09:22:03 The y was a tipo Jun 04 09:23:09 ldir we say aup in stoke and my granddad yous to say "there is trouble at mill lad!" Jun 04 09:24:38 ldir he would say it if there was a couple in the street that were having a barney. Jun 04 09:26:24 lol Jun 04 09:29:36 ldir here: http://www.thepotteries.org/dialect1.html Jun 04 09:31:18 curiously west indian english dialects say 'aks' instead of 'ask'. - I wonder if there's link. Jun 04 09:31:19 ldir thate can hav the sen a rate Chink! Jun 04 09:31:58 I don't know mate but I do love the sound of patwa. Jun 04 09:32:42 My first girlfriend was from JA Jun 04 09:32:48 yeah man Jun 04 09:33:08 I had 2 kids with her boys 19 and 16 now Jun 04 10:06:23 "Travis CI has specific time limits for each job, and by default, a job that takes longer than 50 minutes on travis-ci.org will be automatically stopped." Jun 04 10:06:44 if this is impossible to increase I suggest we drop travis from -packages Jun 04 10:07:40 random false claims about failed builds is pretty annoying, I'd say even demotivating when your PR hangs due to them Jun 04 10:07:57 get a faster rig to compile with? Jun 04 10:08:21 p0g0: tell travis :) Jun 04 10:09:00 'by default' suggests that it shouldn't be impossible to fix Jun 04 10:11:36 https://docs.travis-ci.com/user/customizing-the-build/#Build-Timeouts Jun 04 10:52:45 * ldir discovers ip6assign, ip6hint & ip6ifaceid work for wireguard interfaces. Happy bunny. Jun 04 11:09:23 ddns-scripts fails when provided with a HTTPS update_url Jun 04 11:09:55 it defaults to uclient-fetch which doesn't have SSL support by default (if at all?) Jun 04 11:10:20 even when I have SSL-enabled wget installed Jun 04 11:10:57 according to the docs, it should default to wget if it's available, but reading the source it always assumes that wget does not support SSL Jun 04 11:12:45 the wget in question is the busybox one with "use openssl if available" enabled, and openssl is available Jun 04 11:21:18 my understanding is that wget in openwrt is a symlink to uclient-fetch Jun 04 11:21:43 or it is at least on my system. Jun 04 11:22:47 what needs to be enabled to get uclient-fetch support SSL? Jun 04 11:23:04 you need to install one of the libustream-* libraries Jun 04 11:23:12 and ca-certificates iirc Jun 04 11:23:53 on my system it's a symlink to busybox Jun 04 11:24:36 ca-bundle - is the certs in one file - ca-certificates is lots of files. Jun 04 11:25:08 I guess installing libustream-openssl would fix the issue, but the behaviour is still does not reflect the docs (or vice versa) Jun 04 11:25:29 ldir: which one is more compact? :p Jun 04 11:25:57 I'd like to think 'bundle' - that's what I'm using :-) Jun 04 11:26:50 ddns-scripts doesn't check if wget supports SSL or not, just assumes it doesn't Jun 04 11:27:20 uclient-fetch is not even mentioned in the docs Jun 04 11:31:12 on an unrelated note, kudos to whoever fixed the crashing when one manually assigns an IPv6 address to br-lan (/64 with mngtmpaddr on and net.ipv6.conf.br-lan.use_tempaddr=2) during the last month Jun 04 11:32:18 now services which run on the router and connect out use temporary ipv6 addresses :) Jun 04 11:33:02 a biuld form a month ago crashed randomly after 1 to ~60 minutes Jun 04 11:35:58 I dont get why one MUST assign exactly /64 in order for mngtmpaddr to work, even though you have a wider range available to you (/48 in my case) Jun 04 12:08:16 ddnsscripts looks for uclient-fetch support & ssl support within that Jun 04 12:10:10 and will use uclient fetch if neither wget-ssl or an ssl supporting version of curl is available. Jun 04 12:13:54 ldir: so, symlinking my already ssl-capable wget to wget-ssl should do the trick? Jun 04 12:19:46 maybe - I don't understand why you don't have a 'libustream' library installed - that will provide https support to uclient-fetch Jun 04 12:36:56 ldir: i guess because it's not enabled by default and I didn't know I'd need it for something :p Jun 04 12:42:57 new release today? Jun 04 12:55:50 ultito: yes, it's called.... master ;-) Jun 04 12:57:11 * ldir goes for a flash & a reboot - brb Jun 04 13:19:10 ldir: flash was successful? Jun 04 13:31:18 any ETA to next release ? Jun 04 13:31:43 When it's done Jun 04 13:33:20 Microsoft acquires GitHub (: https://lwn.net/Articles/756443/ Jun 04 13:34:33 <_lore_> nbd: would you like to take a look to usb scatter/gather support? Jun 04 13:36:48 ultito: yes - real life intervened coming back here though. Jun 04 14:07:24 _lore_: yes Jun 04 14:12:00 <_lore_> nbd: tx side: Jun 04 14:12:03 <_lore_> https://github.com/LorenzoBianconi/wireless-drivers-next/commit/33a7f68669fb746106832b90266e7332b4b3d640 Jun 04 14:12:13 <_lore_> https://github.com/LorenzoBianconi/wireless-drivers-next/commit/6a28d6ffe282b8e9a9c1c410cb29f12ff8203bf8 Jun 04 14:12:34 <_lore_> tx side works properly, I am currently working on rx side Jun 04 14:12:52 <_lore_> rx side: Jun 04 14:12:54 <_lore_> https://github.com/LorenzoBianconi/wireless-drivers-next/commit/0eb28e135f39399e8173a3662a83ea89a2334cf0 Jun 04 14:13:03 <_lore_> https://github.com/LorenzoBianconi/wireless-drivers-next/commit/0fc86809847730b7d336caf36a8b80066f6db71c Jun 04 14:40:02 ldir: any progress on your line installation? Jun 04 14:41:49 heh Jun 04 14:41:54 microsoft is acquiring github Jun 04 14:43:05 I've read rumours this morning but now github.com itself is showing notification banners Jun 04 14:44:45 ah, was already written above - sorry for the noise then Jun 04 14:49:14 heh Jun 04 14:55:44 jow, yep. more like adhub now Jun 04 14:55:45 heheh. Jun 04 14:58:30 jow: do you think this could effect the current PR workflows ? Jun 04 15:00:09 ashkan: don't think so, as long as they fit into metro tiles Jun 04 15:00:11 dwmw2_gone: I shelled out and it is being installed. The 11th is the install date. Jun 04 15:02:06 jow: this is the end of opensource Jun 04 15:03:15 ldir: thanks for doing this! Jun 04 15:03:32 ultito: its the end of github ;) Jun 04 15:04:01 ultito, github is not even open source Jun 04 15:06:18 skype was also good software, before microsoft bought it :-( Jun 04 15:06:47 Good ol' EEE Jun 04 15:06:59 back to patchwork and ML only! Jun 04 15:07:41 dwmw2_gone: I'm going to try and build your PR locally and if it builds just accept it Jun 04 15:07:45 silly travis Jun 04 15:08:28 bad stintel! Jun 04 15:08:38 y? Jun 04 15:08:45 even without LTO it doesn't build quickly enough Jun 04 15:09:28 stintel, a github-like site is 'nice':-) Jun 04 15:09:40 Much much nicer than patchwork Jun 04 15:10:10 stintel: thoughts on https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/pull/940 too? Jun 04 15:11:30 dwmw2_gone: I'm not against it, but soon people are going to be asking for a wpad-tiny for their ****** 4MB flash devices Jun 04 15:13:03 :) Jun 04 15:17:58 As I said last night in case no one else saw it: Is there any chance that I could find a volunteer to port LEDE onto the Zoneflex 7962? These APs have amazing range thanks to a proprietary antenna array that implements a hardware feature called Beamflex+. They cost $995 when they were new, but they can be purchased for like $30 off eBay now. Its wi-fi performs beautifully. Range is amazing. I'd be Jun 04 15:18:04 happy to pay to send one to someone. Jun 04 15:18:47 why the huge price difference? Jun 04 15:19:24 salcedo: It is EoL and businesses don't want it anymore. Jun 04 15:20:39 I'd give it a shot but first need to figure out ath79/devicetree so there are problably better qualified people Jun 04 15:21:20 ath79/dt is close! Jun 04 15:21:26 the real devs are working on it :) Jun 04 15:22:04 stintel: Cool. :) Jun 04 15:25:01 ryao: ebay only seems to show auctions from US :/ Jun 04 15:25:21 stintel: They have different websites for different countries. Jun 04 15:25:30 I don't feel like going through customs trouble in a country where I don't write or speak the language Jun 04 15:25:36 ryao: I am looking on ebay.be :) Jun 04 15:25:55 if I select objectlocation EU -> 0 results Jun 04 15:26:16 stintel: Maybe they ship to the EU. Otherwise, there is opas.com... Jun 04 15:26:52 ryao: it's not about the shipping, it's about customs Jun 04 15:27:03 stintel: A word of warning. These need either the less common 2.5mmx5.5mm 12VDC barrel connector or a 802.3af PoE injector. Jun 04 15:27:21 stintel: Oh. Are they really strict? Jun 04 15:27:29 the paperwork here in .bg is not something I want to deal with Jun 04 15:27:46 stintel: "Engineering sample. No commercial value". Jun 04 15:28:00 covers all manner of evils :) Jun 04 15:28:04 lol Jun 04 15:28:19 I have a PS3 or three covered by that Jun 04 15:28:19 "Obsolete technology: No commercial value" :P Jun 04 15:28:25 that too :) Jun 04 15:28:33 Japanese models, at that. Jun 04 15:29:20 so what's a well supported platfrom with gigabit and AC 3x3 or 4x4 these days? mt7621 + atheros? Jun 04 15:29:20 Actually, "Engineering sample: NO commercial value" seems like a better choice here. Jun 04 15:29:26 s/NO/No/ Jun 04 15:29:34 As it would be an engineering sample. :P Jun 04 15:35:41 I can't seem to chown a directory in /etc/ to a different (existent) user. remains root:root. if I copy it to /tmp/ it works fine Jun 04 15:36:38 any reason for that? Jun 04 15:45:22 Assuming their beamforming technology is purely in hardware and requires no software aid seems a stretch. Jun 04 15:47:05 btw dwmw2_gone https://github.com/openwrt/openwrt/pull/940 seems to miss the actual changes to 11r handling ? Jun 04 15:47:29 or did that part already get committed Jun 04 16:10:04 can't forget how hostile MS was to FOSS, stop messing up with FOSS M$ Jun 04 16:11:55 ausjke: m$ acquiring github could be one of the best things to happen to FOSS :) Jun 04 16:13:12 with so many communities using github, including openwrt... one has to wonder... is github a single point of failure? Jun 04 16:13:44 maybe put openwrt to self-hosted gitea Jun 04 16:13:59 now you're thinking :) Jun 04 16:14:21 what happens if m$ really mishandles this and causes communities to start jumping ship and moving to self-hosted gitlabs and such? Jun 04 16:14:22 gitlab is the sole gainer, though it's heavy as hell Jun 04 16:14:23 umm, msft are pretty committed to oss Jun 04 16:15:00 what if... developers come up with a truly decentralized git-like thing that is p2p? Jun 04 16:15:04 not to old guys like us, its evil gene was born with Jun 04 16:15:07 ausjke: smth like https://git.openwrt.org ? Jun 04 16:15:10 they give away a lot of their revenue generating software to support oss Jun 04 16:15:18 all they need is a little push from a greedy corporation like m$ to stir innovation into TRUE FOSS Jun 04 16:15:44 ausjke: thats because oss used to be cancer :D Jun 04 16:15:48 is less so now Jun 04 16:16:18 jwh: this is true. but if they add their god awful SSO into github... and i see a message that says "sign in to your microsoft account" on the github sign on page... i'm gone. Jun 04 16:16:27 why Jun 04 16:16:37 sign in with what you wish Jun 04 16:16:41 because it's so painful to use Jun 04 16:17:01 and i don't want a microsoft account. Jun 04 16:17:07 dont think its any worse than any of tge other sso options they offer tbh Jun 04 16:17:09 the Jun 04 16:17:47 ADFS works :) Jun 04 16:17:49 life is short, for the rest of mine i have nothing to do with M$ whatsoever Jun 04 16:17:57 ^ Jun 04 16:18:03 ^ Jun 04 16:18:04 already moving my stuff to self-hosted gitlab Jun 04 16:18:08 sounds like typical misguided 90s dumbassery Jun 04 16:18:41 they may as well be an entirely seperate company now Jun 04 16:18:42 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager, applied to FOSS. We have a whole lot to lose by trusting Microsoft, if/when they decide to screw us over again. Jun 04 16:18:52 compared to the old one Jun 04 16:19:29 not to mention this is the same company founded by a mass-murderer. Jun 04 16:19:51 i mean they suck because they cant decide what environment to support in visual studio Jun 04 16:20:01 but its free, so what you gonna do Jun 04 16:20:29 uh, mobile environment even Jun 04 16:20:52 i like how windows 10 is essentially free now... just let cortana collect data. :) Jun 04 16:21:27 except its configurable and you still got it for free :D Jun 04 16:21:37 * ausjke uses linux desktop for the last 15+ years, does not how win10 looks like and do not care Jun 04 16:21:40 But most people aren't going to configure it. Jun 04 16:21:55 yes. i can turn cortana off. but mitmproxy doesn't lie. there's still a ton of questionable packets being sent to m$ Jun 04 16:22:00 it actually harasses you about it now Jun 04 16:22:12 build #11 of mediatek/mt7623 is complete: Failure [failed images] Build details are at http://phase1.builds.lede-project.org/builders/mediatek%2Fmt7623/builds/11 blamelist: Hans Dedecker Jun 04 16:22:20 id rather it just collected totally meaningless data instead Jun 04 16:22:22 Windows 10 isn't "essentially free". Microsoft stopped the free upgrade program a year or two ago. Jun 04 16:22:46 it was still free up until a few montgs ago Jun 04 16:22:48 months Jun 04 16:22:52 ya Jun 04 16:23:19 when they ended the accessibility upgrade programme Jun 04 16:23:48 but its also free for life if you ever upgraded in the generous grace period Jun 04 16:23:59 expect the next version will be similar Jun 04 16:24:22 no thanks :) grumpy 90s kid here. m$ = el diablo Jun 04 16:24:57 mangix: how does it break " Jun 04 16:25:06 mangix: i'll revert all the mmc patches i guess Jun 04 16:25:08 when usim sqm/cake, does it do its magic before or after a packet traverses the mangle table? Jun 04 16:25:21 s/usim/using Jun 04 16:25:21 hmm. i use a dns redirectio rule, to force clients to use the openwrt box as dns server... it works like 99% of time. but sometimes it doesn't? Jun 04 16:25:54 fyi, doing 4.14.47 bump for master Jun 04 16:26:12 to say something not off-topic ... Jun 04 16:26:26 salcedo: ah, see i prioritise an easier life over ideology that hasnt been relevant for at least a decade :D Jun 04 16:26:27 i.e., if I want to add DSCP markings so that layer_cake prioritises certain packets, do I need to add them in the mangle or raw table? Jun 04 16:26:55 computer needs to work, otherwise i cant get any actual work done heh Jun 04 16:32:02 like here https://imgur.com/a/AymjHqu Jun 04 16:32:33 @paulius mangle table Jun 04 16:33:21 raw: This table is used mainly for configuring exemptions from connection tracking in combination with the NOTRACK target. It registers at the netfilter hooks with higher priority and is thus called before ip_conntrack, or any other IP tables. Jun 04 16:35:33 seems like by default raw support is not enabled Jun 04 16:40:21 blogic: that patch you reverted fixes mt7620 gpios Jun 04 16:40:36 the pci reverts are fine Jun 04 16:42:19 shm0: i've read that the mangle table is after the connection tracking state machine, hence why i'm wondering if's before cake does it's thing Jun 04 16:44:23 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Netfilter-packet-flow.svg Jun 04 16:45:55 shm0: which chain though? the packets originate on the router itself. communication between two openwrt boxes each running openssh. PREROUTING? Jun 04 16:45:59 do you want to set dscp flags for both ingress and egress? Jun 04 16:46:04 stintel: https://github.com/ldir-EDB0/openwrt/commit/31fbd708189aa5295c3d9b1b4c4afdb01a1d27d2 Jun 04 16:46:31 shm0: yes, on both boxes Jun 04 16:46:47 so that layer_cake would prioritise them Jun 04 16:46:55 hmm Jun 04 16:47:33 s/openssh/openvpn Jun 04 16:48:40 ingress/egress ports are fixed Jun 04 16:49:07 for egress you can use iptables. only for traffic that is originating from the router? then mangle/output i think Jun 04 16:49:50 i'm not sure the flags survive the internet, so better add it both ways Jun 04 16:50:14 ldir: but no pr/patchwork? Jun 04 16:50:43 question is, where does sqm/cake stand in the picture Jun 04 16:51:04 qdisc ingress and qdisc engress Jun 04 16:51:40 ah, in that case the mangle table is fine Jun 04 16:51:44 at least Jun 04 16:51:59 stintel: I'm recovering from working two 'not quite' horrible night shifts and never quite got around to it Jun 04 16:52:08 i guess the flags will not survive over the internet Jun 04 16:52:26 two horrible 'not quite night' shifts that should be Jun 04 16:52:30 but you use vpn? Jun 04 16:52:38 they were horrible, that's for sure. Jun 04 16:52:44 the idea is to make both boxes 'assume' dscp flags Jun 04 16:52:53 ldir: ok Jun 04 16:53:04 ldir: well I think the script run here is almost finished .. Jun 04 16:53:20 shm0: it's the VPN traffic i want to prioritise Jun 04 16:53:25 stintel: you can check I did it right :-) Jun 04 16:53:32 i made a thread about this in the forums, but its down for me atm Jun 04 16:53:50 the tunnel itself I mean Jun 04 16:54:01 ldir: or compare to find my own mistakes ;) Jun 04 16:54:11 lol Jun 04 16:55:14 yeah i think mangle out/postrouting with dport 1194 or something should be fine? Jun 04 16:56:19 https://forum.lede-project.org/t/using-dscp-for-qos/ but im not sure if the tc part is correct but atleast it works x) Jun 04 16:56:22 shm0: wouldn't that send dscp flags out into the internet? Jun 04 16:56:38 yes Jun 04 16:56:47 but you can use cake wash option Jun 04 16:57:11 i want to add dscp for packets coming in from inthe internet Jun 04 16:57:35 otherwise it's pointless if they get stripped along the way trhough the intertubes Jun 04 16:58:16 might as well try both Jun 04 16:58:26 i used tc for that. but it is also possibly with veth/routing Jun 04 16:58:45 dlakelan mentioned the veth approach in the topic Jun 04 16:59:27 according to the picture, there's nothing that can affect the packet before it hits qdisc Jun 04 17:00:02 for ingress yes Jun 04 17:00:15 so even if I mangle the packets, it's still depends on getting through the internet Jun 04 17:00:32 tc runs before the qdisc Jun 04 17:00:43 oh? hmm Jun 04 17:00:56 or you use iqm then you can use iptables Jun 04 17:01:21 imq Jun 04 17:01:26 need to read p Jun 04 17:01:30 thanks :) Jun 04 17:01:40 np^^ Jun 04 17:03:28 ldir: now I can diff a diff of diffs, how about that Jun 04 17:06:57 hmm something seems bugged here... this network is quite small, i have dnsmasq configured with a cache of 10000 and use stubby as forwarder... how is it possible that stubby generated nearly 100mb of traffic in the last 30min Jun 04 17:07:00 ? Jun 04 17:08:48 its answering queries from the outside? infection inside, dumbass client/software etc Jun 04 17:08:59 profile the queries Jun 04 17:10:22 ldir: I wonder what's the deal with the pogoplug changes Jun 04 17:14:08 I guess it's because target/linux/oxnas/patches-4.14/0001-ARM-dts-rename-oxnas-dts-files.patch was created with git Jun 04 17:14:16 and quilt handles it differently Jun 04 17:15:21 queries from outside, i think i can rule that one out. all ports closed. must be some client sending endless unique queries that are not cached by dnsmasq Jun 04 17:19:15 shm0: are you hosting paid wifi? cause tunneling traffic through dns requests is a fun thing to do :) see iodine Jun 04 17:19:41 nope no paid wifi ;) Jun 04 17:20:55 i've had good success in tunneling over DNS or ICMP on those situations lol Jun 04 17:21:25 but when someone is using iodine... i would see traffic going to his iodine server in the connections log? Jun 04 17:21:42 i quite successfully used iodine from 30,000 feet :D Jun 04 17:22:30 hi Jun 04 17:23:43 shm0: you would only see massive amounts of dns requests/responses from/to the client Jun 04 17:23:57 hmm Jun 04 17:24:24 the server would be hosted elsewhere Jun 04 17:24:52 after the recent announcement that microsoft will buy github - https://news.microsoft.com/2018/06/04/microsoft-to-acquire-github-for-7-5-billion/ - i would propose to switch to gitlab as microsoft will try to monetize the service and add telemetry to this nice service - ms is a shady company and i'd like to get rid of any direct connections to this company Jun 04 17:25:03 i'm talking about the packages repository Jun 04 17:25:23 btw Jun 04 17:25:44 tripolar: how could they telemetrise a repository? Jun 04 17:26:14 paulius: users that use it, check in dates, maybe correlated to their windows telemetry crap Jun 04 17:26:46 paulius: i bet they didnt switch to an altruistic mindset Jun 04 17:27:25 they more data points they can get about the users, the better Jun 04 17:27:53 as it seems gitlab is already seeing massive repo migrations Jun 04 17:28:00 they could see what IP/user reads/downloads/contributes what code. so what Jun 04 17:29:19 paulius: i would propose to swtich to a service that tells the users what their doing with the data and what data they are harvesting. ms isn't talking about this and gives vague statements Jun 04 17:29:39 GDPR is a thing that no one wants to violate Jun 04 17:29:47 a shady company in my opionion Jun 04 17:30:02 paulius: ms telemtry stuff is currently violating it, also facebook and whatsapp Jun 04 17:30:39 so fines of billons are coming? Jun 04 17:30:49 paulius: GDPR forces one to opt-in. with ms telemtry you can't even opt-out :D Jun 04 17:32:04 paulius: yes. but courts have to decide that are already pending court procedures Jun 04 17:32:31 are/there are Jun 04 17:33:06 nbd, jow what is your opinion on this? can we start a poll with all package maintainers? Jun 04 17:51:05 ldir: did you compile-test yours on ath79 by chance? Jun 04 17:51:31 no, part of the reason I didn't do a PR. only mt7621 Jun 04 17:52:31 ok Jun 04 17:53:59 ldir: mostly cosmetic differences (my patchset using longer git hashes than yours), but also mine didn't touch .../pending-4.14/220-optimize_inlining.patch and patches both 811-pci_disable_usb_common_quirks.patch and ath79/0009-MIPS-ath79-add-lots-of-missing-registers.patch differently Jun 04 17:55:36 I refresh on macos...I fought some whitespace issues and eventually won... maybe this is another difference. Jun 04 17:55:37 oh because I don't even have that patch Jun 04 17:55:49 yeah I think it is indeed mostly whitespace Jun 04 17:56:13 the pogoplug stuff looks ok, just adds more text to that patch but it is how quilt does it Jun 04 17:56:55 indeed - diffs of diffs. - eeeuuurggh! Jun 04 17:57:27 pushed my version to my staging tree Jun 04 17:57:37 going to build and flash now Jun 04 17:57:42 cool :-) Jun 04 17:57:59 if you want you can compare Jun 04 17:58:46 he he I trust you :-) Jun 04 18:04:17 https://www.rouming.cz/roumingShow.php?file=cyklojailbait.jpg :-) Jun 04 18:10:54 Hello ! Did you guys have seen this NetDuma / DumaOS project : https://netduma.com/opensource/ , http://forum.netduma.com/topic/18139-dumaos-compared-to-opensource-routers/ ? Jun 04 18:23:23 obinou: what is it? a merlin/asus version of dumaos/netgear? Jun 04 18:23:59 apparently , netduma came before dumaos Jun 04 18:24:10 (juste a change of name) Jun 04 18:24:51 I was wondering the difference, since they more or less advertise that they are openwrt-based Jun 04 18:28:22 some customized openwrt for gaming etc and with its own UI it seems Jun 04 18:28:59 can't believe it existed since 2011, never heard about it until now Jun 04 18:29:43 damnit Jun 04 18:29:44 /home/build/lede/build_dir/target-x86_64_musl/linux-x86_64/linux-4.14.47/drivers/usb/host/xhci-hub.c:1537: undefined reference to `usb_amd_pt_check_port' Jun 04 18:29:51 ldir: :( Jun 04 18:30:11 I made a booboo Jun 04 18:31:58 did I make the same booboo ? Jun 04 18:32:17 about to check :) Jun 04 18:32:44 hope to get it finished before the gf is going to draw me away from my workstation :) Jun 04 18:33:10 go... NOW! ;-) Jun 04 18:33:15 priofities Jun 04 18:33:19 priorities Jun 04 18:33:34 just give her some money fir shoes and ask to come back later :D Jun 04 18:34:05 for Jun 04 18:34:33 my dinner depends on it :P Jun 04 18:34:38 lol Jun 04 18:34:50 prejudices Jun 04 18:35:06 also: lol @ gf, what kind of (bad) nerd are you?! Jun 04 18:35:17 hey, I'm new to this Jun 04 18:35:27 single life was way easier Jun 04 18:35:48 come on, they all want shoes and other crap :D Jun 04 18:36:31 "normal" girls do anyway, the nerdy ones tend to be even harder work Jun 04 18:36:38 lols Jun 04 18:38:42 stintel: wait for children - a keyboard on one hand and diapers on the other... Jun 04 18:48:35 ldir: I don't get Jun 04 18:48:36 it Jun 04 18:51:31 go on? Jun 04 18:51:52 tomorrow Jun 04 18:52:03 okey Jun 04 19:11:40 hi Jun 04 19:14:00 yo dude Jun 04 19:16:21 yo whaddup Jun 04 19:27:29 Borromini: the 14.4 bump holding up? Jun 04 19:28:07 ldir: yeah seems to be humming along fine on mt7261 :) Jun 04 19:28:13 err mt7621 Jun 04 19:28:43 good stuff. Jun 04 19:32:15 yeah, i don't know whether to send it upstream though or if it will be migrated from the master patches Jun 04 19:32:57 so i got a new vps because my brother (the boss) wanted to migrate... bleh. they have you go through the OS setup yourself (!) Jun 04 19:33:03 a 'modern' vps, truly. Jun 04 19:49:40 Borromini: don't send it upstream - it break x86_64 Jun 04 19:51:18 ldir: ok you booted it? Jun 04 19:51:30 no, it doesn't build Jun 04 19:51:48 in the same way that stintel's bump doesn't build either - which is good news for me :-) Jun 04 19:51:54 wait... it builds for me Jun 04 19:51:57 for 18.06 at least Jun 04 19:52:05 if not my build script should have caught it Jun 04 19:52:52 no idea about 18.06 Jun 04 19:53:17 https://volatilesystems.org/dl/lede/18.06/latest/targets/x86/64/ sittin right thurr Jun 04 19:54:45 so what's the differnce between the 14.4 bumps then? Jun 04 19:55:16 i couldn't tell, but i did pick your common usb quirks patch Jun 04 19:55:25 what i did to it broke my build Jun 04 19:55:34 that's the only part between my and your bump i compared Jun 04 19:57:02 hmm, I'll leave this to an adult Jun 04 19:58:12 for me, you were that adult ;) Jun 04 19:58:31 * ldir guesses that Mr Blackbird in the garden has a nest of hungry mouths nearby. Keeps coming back....and I'm amazed there are any worms left! Jun 04 20:02:59 :) Jun 04 20:10:39 is stintel still having gf time or is he around? :P Jun 04 20:10:49 gf time Jun 04 20:12:06 ok then he shall not be disturbed Jun 04 20:12:29 Borromini: Looking for this: https://pastebin.com/qgxtCJMn ? Jun 04 20:17:23 To get networknamespace support on a mips (TP Link tp841v13), Is there a kernel module or do I need to build my own kernel? Jun 04 20:17:24 where does that come from Jun 04 20:17:40 at least looks to modify the same things that are calling my build problem Jun 04 20:18:54 mamarley: i had problems updating nbd's patch but ldir's 4.14 bump had the right stuff, so it solved for me Jun 04 20:19:15 stintel: are you getting usb headers breaking all over the place etc.? Jun 04 20:19:27 04|20:29:44 < stintel> /home/build/lede/build_dir/target-x86_64_musl/linux-x86_64/linux-4.14.47/drivers/usb/host/xhci-hub.c:1537: undefined reference to `usb_amd_pt_check_port' Jun 04 20:19:39 Borromini: Sorry, I thought you were still having trouble. I updated that patch a few days ago when I did my own kernel bump. Jun 04 20:19:51 (And it builds and runs fine on x86_64.) Jun 04 20:20:00 mamarley: thanks, appreciate it, but no :) Jun 04 20:20:08 and you bumped on master? Jun 04 20:20:16 Yep Jun 04 20:20:52 cool Jun 04 20:21:25 i wonder if anyone else with a Ryzen AMD system could test the microcode patches that have been sitting in patchwork Jun 04 20:23:46 mamarley: do you have a git ref for your bump somewhere please? Jun 04 20:24:03 * ldir wants to know what he's done wrong in his :-) Jun 04 20:24:33 who.do i give money to Jun 04 20:24:43 to do stuff i cant :D Jun 04 20:24:44 me pleas Jun 04 20:24:56 if i cant you cant :p Jun 04 20:25:00 Sorry I cant do any thing for you Jun 04 20:25:00 ldir: Sorry, I haven't been trying to track my local changes with git, so if I did commit and push, it would have a bunch of other useless junk in it. Jun 04 20:25:32 i want to produve nice things or the project bht i suck Jun 04 20:25:34 but Jun 04 20:25:39 also fot Jun 04 20:25:40 cor Jun 04 20:25:46 screw this phone Jun 04 20:25:55 mamarley: no problem :-) Jun 04 20:26:00 I don't know who you can give monny to mate I would like to giv some to OPENWRT to Jun 04 20:26:09 come back apple all.is forgiven Jun 04 20:26:14 jwh: http://bryn1u.proton.edu.pl/MicrosoftGit.jpeg Jun 04 20:26:49 salcedo: Please tell me that is shopped… Jun 04 20:27:04 god i hope so Jun 04 20:27:05 :D Jun 04 20:27:06 mamarley: it is.... FOR NOW. rofl Jun 04 20:27:22 salcedo: real? Jun 04 20:27:32 beh Jun 04 20:27:34 heh Jun 04 20:27:43 msft are not dumb Jun 04 20:27:45 someone also made this https://i.redd.it/0oegfw0330211.png Jun 04 20:27:57 Any one want to describe the pick pleas? Jun 04 20:27:59 and gitbub is still a seperate enyity Jun 04 20:28:02 entity Jun 04 20:28:15 just reslonsibly fiscally managed Jun 04 20:28:26 haha you spell like me! hahahahahaha Jun 04 20:28:26 responsibly oh my god Jun 04 20:28:38 android keyboard is a joke Jun 04 20:28:45 cant get used to it Jun 04 20:28:57 try dinges Jun 04 20:28:58 oh lordy - clippy with 'looks like you have merge conflicts' Jun 04 20:29:02 euh, swiftkeyboard Jun 04 20:29:03 hahahaha Jun 04 20:30:58 Tapper: lol. Jun 04 20:31:55 the first picture is basically the output of a git clone command but has been 'enhanced' by microsoft to say a few extras. e.g. github works better in edge. And toward the end of the clone it says 'github has encountered an error and needs to restart' 'please try again later' Jun 04 20:33:27 https://imagebin.ca/v/44AKMYHFhuH9 Jun 04 20:33:28 the second picture is the bastard children of combining the github home page with microsoft word and windows 10 live tiles.... with added clippy. Jun 04 20:33:46 It's quite disturbing really. Jun 04 20:34:13 thanks ldir Jun 04 20:34:49 the jokes write them self's Jun 04 20:35:07 selees* Jun 04 20:35:10 goood to see people are doing their jobs Jun 04 20:35:17 owait :D Jun 04 20:35:29 selves* Jun 04 20:35:37 these are not the customers you are looking for Jun 04 20:37:38 hae Cortana gitpull Jun 04 20:55:36 So what are people working on? Any thing I can test for any one? I have a wrt3200acm and a c7-v2 Jun 04 21:54:28 shm0: ping Jun 04 22:47:50 newer software (samba 4, dnscrypt 2) are huge.. 32MB devices will become the new 4MB sooner than I thought Jun 04 22:59:33 the samba thing is worrying Jun 04 23:44:57 systemd enabled ECN by default. oh boy. Jun 05 01:07:57 hrm phoronix is no longer breaking due to ecn. **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 05 02:04:39 2018 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jun 05 03:00:14 2018