**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 26 03:00:02 2018 Jun 26 04:36:39 neoraider: wont get Acked Jun 26 04:36:53 neoraider: there is the new gpio sub system in the making Jun 26 04:37:08 using debugfs to control gpios is not cpnsidered sane by upstream Jun 26 07:01:15 neoraider: we should consider moving the patch to generic/ Jun 26 07:09:46 query jow Jun 26 07:10:24 tickle ldir Jun 26 07:10:49 ping jow Jun 26 07:15:20 trine: pong Jun 26 07:15:47 morning jow Jun 26 07:16:19 I have soemthing wrong which is affecting the luci iface Jun 26 07:16:56 the menues are now all on the lefthand side instead of being drop down from the top Jun 26 07:17:05 yes, this is intentional Jun 26 07:17:22 and luci does not show on the network page the AP you are connected to Jun 26 07:17:38 which network page? Jun 26 07:18:01 jow I hope you dont mind me saying this but if this intentional then its awful Jun 26 07:18:41 a matter of taste I guess Jun 26 07:21:13 Hi Guys. Jun 26 07:21:29 yes I guess you could say that but it really isnt working properly either the network page which should show the AP details you are connected to does not show any info Jun 26 07:21:45 Hi jow hav you seen my Comments? Jun 26 07:21:53 Jow please please go back to the old layout Jun 26 07:22:08 it was far Superior Jun 26 07:22:11 This is my first time on this channel. And I've a doubt about IGMP snooping. Jun 26 07:22:35 btw jow thanks for the fast fix for the headings! :-) Jun 26 07:23:12 trine: I do not plan to go back to the old layout Jun 26 07:23:32 Tapper: no - which comments? Jun 26 07:23:57 trine: I still do not know which page you mean that does not show any info Jun 26 07:24:09 a screenshot or similar would be helpful Jun 26 07:24:13 jow https://github.com/openwrt/luci/issues/1907 Jun 26 07:24:30 How the video quality varies on a WLAN client befor and after IGMP snooping if a large video file is streaming on a LAN client? Jun 26 07:25:10 what information should I give to you,, I will have to do it from memory because I have now flashed an old version with the original layout,,, I hate the new layout Jun 26 07:25:24 Tapper: yeah, these are not actual tables anymore but divs styled to be tables. This is required to decompose the grid into disjunct elements for small screen resolutions Jun 26 07:25:43 Tapper: I can try to add aria accessibility elements Jun 26 07:25:48 O ok Jun 26 07:25:58 thanks that would be cool Jun 26 07:26:27 trine: I need a screenshot showing the problem so I have an idea what you're talking about Jun 26 07:26:45 The heading fix is good It makes verry simple to jump strate to the info you want to get to when using the screen reader. Jun 26 07:27:03 jow, ir there any particular reason for changing from the very nice previous layout of luci Jun 26 07:27:15 /ir/is Jun 26 07:27:29 trine: yes, making it work on small screens, fixing broken css, remove inline styling, simplify markup Jun 26 07:27:50 it hasn't been touched in 10 years Jun 26 07:28:51 it was really nice before now I honestly dislike it Jun 26 07:29:07 I disliked it before and now find it very nice Jun 26 07:29:23 and i never had a problem using it on a 10" netbook Jun 26 07:30:15 parts don't work Jun 26 07:30:29 tell me which parts don't work and I'll fix them Jun 26 07:30:46 Hi trine if you find a bug pleas make a bug report Jun 26 07:30:58 I really have no interest in this new version Jun 26 07:31:06 then stop wasting my time Jun 26 07:31:15 I have flashed back to an old version now Jun 26 07:31:38 jow its so bad I thought it was broken Jun 26 07:31:49 trine you could of just tried out a difrent theme Jun 26 07:31:56 badly broken Jun 26 07:32:03 * blogic walks down to the cellar Jun 26 07:32:10 * blogic comes back up with popcorn Jun 26 07:32:16 do continue, please .... Jun 26 07:32:36 blogic salted or butter? Jun 26 07:32:42 trine: my 5 year old daughter would start stamping her feet now Jun 26 07:32:58 Tapper: tabasco Jun 26 07:33:05 o nice Jun 26 07:33:06 blogic, yes sounds like bad parenting Jun 26 07:33:16 trine: haha Jun 26 07:33:27 well, i am sorry you are in a bad mood, to let it out on us Jun 26 07:33:32 we are all ears Jun 26 07:33:51 jow: so this new theme is now default, I need to try it out Jun 26 07:34:01 it isn't Jun 26 07:34:04 blogic, no moods here just speaking truth unto power Jun 26 07:34:11 default theme is bootstrap and that received almost no changes Jun 26 07:34:26 jow: so which theme should i select to enjoy your work ? Jun 26 07:34:49 blogic, they are all bad now so take your pick Jun 26 07:35:10 morning Jun 26 07:35:17 blogic: I can only assume that trine is talking about the openwrt theme Jun 26 07:35:20 wigyori: want some popcorn ? Jun 26 07:35:21 they were almost perfect previously Jun 26 07:35:23 blogic: yeah Jun 26 07:35:31 but I have honestly no idea, all I heard is "its awful, its bad, its broken" Jun 26 07:35:36 * blogic hand wigyori a jug, enjoy :-D Jun 26 07:35:39 :) Jun 26 07:35:47 I still have no idea what the fuzz is about, especially since the default bootstrap theme didn't really had any changes Jun 26 07:36:41 jow, I have used luci since its invention and have always liked it but I am sorry to say IMHO its awful now Jun 26 07:37:00 trine: you keep repeating yourself Jun 26 07:37:31 blogic, have you been drinking alcohol this early in the day? Jun 26 07:37:39 i wish i had Jun 26 07:37:48 it'd be even more fun Jun 26 07:37:50 :D Jun 26 07:37:53 o/ Jun 26 07:38:01 stintel: here have some popcorn Jun 26 07:38:21 blogic: already had sausage bread :P Jun 26 07:38:29 oh .... Jun 26 07:38:30 trine what build did you flash are you shure it was not gargoyle? lol Jun 26 07:38:51 or ddwrt! Jun 26 07:39:21 Tapper: true story ... had someone rant at me yesterday as the lantiq vdsl was not working ootb Jun 26 07:39:27 Tapper: and i helped to debug Jun 26 07:39:35 Tapper, shure is spelt wrongly Jun 26 07:39:37 and then was told, DDWRT is sooo much more amazing Jun 26 07:39:49 so i said, well then use DDWRT to be told it does not support vdsl :-) Jun 26 07:39:53 hahah wtf! Jun 26 07:40:16 sure* Jun 26 07:40:22 trine: shure mrs moneypenny Jun 26 07:40:23 Tapper, is English not you first language ? Jun 26 07:40:34 trine: oh he is an idiot like the lot of us Jun 26 07:40:38 but you knew that already Jun 26 07:40:53 blogic, whats your problem today Jun 26 07:41:22 trine sorry mate I was trying to speak gimp! Jun 26 07:41:44 stintel: you use multi core SoCs right ? Jun 26 07:41:45 blogic, is it not allowed to express an honest opinion these days on this channel Jun 26 07:41:55 stintel: could you try to give target/linux/mediatek/patches-4.14/0048-net-core-add-RPS-balancer.patch a spin on them Jun 26 07:42:06 trine: of course it is Jun 26 07:42:15 its the way its done that triggers responses Jun 26 07:42:20 trineYou can say what ever you like that does not mean that we have to like it! Jun 26 07:42:34 blogic: x86/apu2, octeon/erl Jun 26 07:43:14 Tapper, correct and it does not mean I have to take any notice of your puerile comments either Jun 26 07:43:17 stintel: so basically i am seeing 10-30% throughput increase Jun 26 07:43:22 and for more stable top marks Jun 26 07:43:36 normal RPS will get you non deterministic results Jun 26 07:43:43 OK Google define puerile? Jun 26 07:43:55 lol Jun 26 07:44:22 behaving in a silly way, not like an adult: Jun 26 07:44:30 Nice I like that one! Jun 26 07:49:04 * ldir laughs Jun 26 07:49:36 ldir: coz i tickled you ? Jun 26 07:49:59 yarp Jun 26 07:50:26 mr jow: ? https://pastebin.com/Ww21jSWd Is this OK now ? Jun 26 07:51:23 muhaha: the subject should be "kernel: gpio-nct5104d" APU boardname fix: Jun 26 07:51:31 dammed, I already run out of popcorn yesterday: https://forum.lede-project.org/t/nexx-3020-mt7620-wi-fi-issues/16008/2 Jun 26 07:51:42 the without this patch ... part should follow in a text block after an empty line Jun 26 07:52:46 tl;dr; psyborg is the only one who knows are things are working. neiter the owrt dev nor the kernel maintainer have a clue what they are doing :-) Jun 26 07:53:06 blogin: oh :( this is a pain. Can anyone edit it like what you exactly need, please? Jun 26 07:53:41 mkresin: :-D Jun 26 07:54:09 I really wish I had that level of self-confidence Jun 26 07:54:54 blogic: lasttime we spoke about MT7621 to get GMAC2 running. You pointed met to Y1S.dts (mt7620+mt7530). I was wondering should GMAC2 register itself as eth1 or port 5 on the switch and I have to setup the switch right? Jun 26 07:55:27 you can add gmac2 aswell Jun 26 07:55:41 it'll connect to 5 Jun 26 07:55:48 and then use vlan magic to connect 5 and 4 Jun 26 07:55:57 and set 4 to ext-phy/gmac mode Jun 26 07:58:47 ok, that helps, thanks. Jun 26 07:59:11 gmac1 is wired to port 6 Jun 26 07:59:22 port 7 is wired to the internal flow offloading engine Jun 26 08:01:06 ok Jun 26 08:02:51 so switch setting should be like "vlan:1, 0 1 2 3 4 6t" "vlan:2, 5 6t" Jun 26 08:06:45 sooo I have an x86 device running and for the 2nd time in a week it became unreachable, on both lan, wan and wan2 Jun 26 08:06:50 it recovered after ~5m Jun 26 08:07:32 now I am on-site and logged in via serial console, nothing weird to see, after ifup lan it recovered Jun 26 08:08:21 it's running master r6884 - anyone can think of a bug that was recently fixed that could cause this? Jun 26 08:27:24 stintel: domoticz stable release... you OK with that last pull request? Jun 26 08:27:32 fixes your ozwcp compression issues too Jun 26 08:31:55 dwmw2_gone: ping me tonight (CEST) about it Jun 26 08:32:01 ok Jun 26 08:32:03 blogic: remind me to test those patches tonight as well please Jun 26 08:32:08 busy day :( Jun 26 08:32:17 are we going to do the 11r support in wpad-mini? Jun 26 08:32:28 stintel: I'd like to put the new domoticz stable release into 18.06 too Jun 26 09:19:31 sure, let's churn another highly churntastic package :) when can we say it missed the boat, and get on the next one? Jun 26 09:22:31 Hi Guys.. How the video quality varies on a WLAN client befor and after IGMP snooping if a large video file is streaming on a LAN client? Jun 26 09:49:56 me__: no change Jun 26 09:53:09 is your video streaming multicast? do you have have many group members? do you have enough group members that without proper use of multicast you would exceed switch bandwidth? Jun 26 10:29:53 jow: You messed with the openwrt theme? I shall complain in advance before I even test it, how very dare you. :) Jun 26 10:34:42 ? Jun 26 10:56:05 I think it as a not particularlyl good attempt at a joke. Jun 26 10:56:18 well everything I noticed broken, jow fixed. So well done jow! :-) Jun 26 10:57:29 Did I forget the sarcasm tags again? Jun 26 10:57:35 karlp: i certainley did not laugh Jun 26 10:57:42 karlp: blasphemic Jun 26 10:58:15 heretics, burn the lot of them Jun 26 10:58:30 I've seen enough heresy to know where this is going.... Jun 26 10:59:11 Burn the heretic. Kill the mutant. Purge the unclean. Jun 26 10:59:21 death to all xenos ! Jun 26 10:59:41 so, where were we ... Jun 26 11:00:04 i've sent 25 ath79 patches upstream Jun 26 11:00:15 got minor feedback regarding the devicetree binding docs Jun 26 11:00:28 not sure if no one cared or if it was actually all good Jun 26 11:00:36 blogic: Cheers for taking the safeloader series - now to get everyone using it. :) Jun 26 11:01:49 so what did I miss? Where was it? Jun 26 11:02:33 ldir: Someone's had a hissy fit over some changes to a luci theme. Jun 26 11:02:37 * ldir has been up since 0115 but been doing $paid_career_job not mangling code. Jun 26 11:03:16 And apparently psyborg is psyborg. Jun 26 11:05:17 ldir: how is that carrer as a ballet dancer getting along btw ? Jun 26 11:05:30 I think someone must have had a css loading fialure though, the white bootstrap theme hasn't changed in _ages_ Jun 26 11:05:43 karlp: It's the openwrt theme, apparently Jun 26 11:05:48 karlp: prolly the bug jow had been hunting Jun 26 11:05:52 I really should go look, I''m curious. Jun 26 11:05:59 Monkeh: dont, openwrt sucks Jun 26 11:06:12 the bloody tutu keeps riding up !!! Jun 26 11:06:13 blogic: I actually use it because I really hate bootstrap Jun 26 11:06:16 the ollllld greeny/grey one? who cares about that? Jun 26 11:06:16 i heard its a shitty distor, uses that free linux crap under the hood Jun 26 11:06:26 Oh, right. :) Jun 26 11:06:29 blogic: where do the ath79 patches go upstream? via linux-mips? Jun 26 11:06:37 karlp: correct Jun 26 11:06:40 and spi Jun 26 11:06:41 blogic: Well, I do run pfSense for the routing.. :P Jun 26 11:06:48 and i'll be sending 2 irqchip ones today Jun 26 11:06:59 Monkeh: i use apple APs Jun 26 11:07:07 You poor man Jun 26 11:07:08 :) Jun 26 11:07:24 but they look pretty and are expensive Jun 26 11:07:41 When did they last make an AP anyway? Jun 26 11:07:50 blogic: wow, thanks a lot, for taking care of upstreaming that! Jun 26 11:07:54 gosh, dunno whats wrong, either its the QCA code i've been reading all day or that clown i ate had gone stale Jun 26 11:08:07 rmilecki: more to come, i am on mac80211 patches right now Jun 26 11:08:14 blogic: Why not both? Jun 26 11:08:29 Monkeh: oh dear Jun 26 11:08:31 Don't sleep, the clown might eat you. Jun 26 11:08:44 like in that steven king movie Jun 26 11:08:45 blogic: great. plase remember 3xx patches are supposed to be backports Jun 26 11:08:52 rmilecki: correct Jun 26 11:08:55 brcmfmac patches stick to that rule for sure Jun 26 11:09:09 so you don't waste time checking 3xx brcmfmac patches Jun 26 11:09:17 their state Jun 26 11:09:25 i am more into the rt2x00 and 700/800 ones right now Jun 26 11:09:43 uh, these seem to be there for A LOT of time Jun 26 11:09:51 we got someone working on rt2x00... Jun 26 11:09:53 not sure how it was Jun 26 11:09:55 Ah yes, rt2x00 - I think I'll set the MT7620 up again and see if I can make it die.. Jun 26 11:09:56 maybe you can get his help Jun 26 11:10:13 rmilecki: psyborg? he's very helpful. Jun 26 11:10:14 :D Jun 26 11:10:22 Monkeh: i was about to say Jun 26 11:10:51 what's his name? Jun 26 11:11:05 or is that irony? Jun 26 11:11:07 i didn't follow Jun 26 11:11:20 That was enough sarcasm to sink a ship Jun 26 11:11:25 I forgot the tags again Jun 26 11:11:34 oh i ,meant Mathias Jun 26 11:11:54 i think mkresin was working on rt2x00 some time ago, some new chispets or sth Jun 26 11:12:01 Monkeh: :P Jun 26 11:12:58 hrm, I have an rt2860+rt2850 board at home that detects pci ok, but I can't see the access point from my phone. still definitely bugs aroudn there Jun 26 11:13:40 it would almost be better being broadcom, then you'd know it wouldn't work, and could just move on with your life :) Jun 26 11:14:52 oh, rtl8xxxu seems messy, a lot of patches Jun 26 11:15:33 rmilecki: i am considering to just drop it Jun 26 11:15:50 rmilecki: its used by rpi Jun 26 11:16:00 blogic: let me ask Larry about them Jun 26 11:17:39 rmilecki: thx ! Jun 26 12:03:04 rmilecki: it was dgolle, who fought with rt2x00 Jun 26 12:03:21 ohh, possibly Jun 26 12:03:28 my mistake then Jun 26 12:21:33 jow: I have to say I preferred the contrast of darker grey menu and buttons, and the new buttons are a little short. Jun 26 12:21:38 But it's hardly the end of the world.. Jun 26 12:21:51 Wireless status page isn't showing station data on this test device. Jun 26 12:35:37 Jow: ping Jun 26 12:36:03 muhaha: pong Jun 26 12:36:17 Monkeh: right, the missing station data has been fixed now Jun 26 12:36:22 jow: Lovely :) Jun 26 12:36:24 forgot to commit some changes Jun 26 12:36:36 That's the only real bug I've noticed, the rest is just opinion Jun 26 12:37:05 jow: Did you see my patch from morning? Is it ok now? :) Jun 26 12:37:13 muhaha: which patch? Jun 26 12:37:41 ping nbd Jun 26 12:37:43 muhaha: you got feedback on it then, have you changed it again? Jun 26 12:41:56 Oh, you mean a prefix ... Jun 26 12:42:09 jow: Can I complain that the buttons are offset vertically rather than centered when there are multiple lines associated with them? (see: wifi overview) Jun 26 12:49:04 jow: ping? Jun 26 12:52:11 f00b4r0: pong Jun 26 12:56:07 anyone feeling like smoketesting an uhttpd fix? Jun 26 12:56:38 I just spent almost two entire days worth of work tracking down some SSL issues leading to truncated file downloads Jun 26 12:57:11 which lead to frequently missing CSS or not loaded JS when accessing the ui via slow links (e.g. from wan with bad upload) Jun 26 12:57:17 http://luci.subsignal.org/~jow/0001-client-flush-buffered-SSL-output-when-tearing-down-c.patch Jun 26 13:01:39 mmm, is there anything in packages that will decode this? Jun 26 13:01:40 13:02:38.168375 d8:b6:b7:57:07:ae > 01:80:c2:00:00:31, ethertype CFM (0x8902), length 89: CFMv0 Continouity Check Message, MD Level 1, length 75 Jun 26 13:03:59 are you in the right channel? Jun 26 13:04:25 wut Jun 26 13:05:05 Monkeh: that requires some table markup changes, will defer that for now Jun 26 13:05:07 are you looking for a wireshark plugin, pacakged separately for openwrt? Jun 26 13:05:20 maybe its a matter of tcpdump vs. tcpdump-full or so Jun 26 13:05:23 not really Jun 26 13:05:28 I guess something like lldpd Jun 26 13:05:36 that can act as an agent Jun 26 13:05:48 https://github.com/vnrick/dot1ag-utils Jun 26 13:05:49 meh Jun 26 13:06:01 need to find something maintained and turn it into a package Jun 26 13:09:10 so you didn't really mean "decode this packet dump" you really meant, "what packages implement CFM?" Jun 26 13:11:32 I guess, yeah Jun 26 13:11:42 I'm more interested in just logging them at this point though Jun 26 13:12:06 since the kernel has no support for participating in .1ag Jun 26 13:14:06 * ldir slips jow's patch into a running make... should be ok, still building the toolchain. Watches macbook melt through sofa - it's quite warm today Jun 26 13:14:34 it is :( Jun 26 13:14:40 28 degrees here until pretty much 8pm Jun 26 13:15:56 lovely Jun 26 13:16:50 28 is quite okay I reckon :) Jun 26 13:17:04 f00b4r0: It's fantastic when you're sat inside with AC, yes. Jun 26 13:17:04 :) Jun 26 13:17:12 lol no ;) Jun 26 13:17:29 it's perfect when you're sitting outside with a bit of a breeze ;D Jun 26 13:17:37 I'll give you the breeze. And shade. Jun 26 13:17:50 aye to the shade :) Jun 26 13:18:02 I'm going to lack shade on sunday so I can only hope for the breeze Jun 26 13:24:59 hey! where can i find which target triple is used for the TP-Link TL-WR841N(D) v10 Router ? Jun 26 13:28:51 forcefaction: mips-openwrt-linux-musl Jun 26 13:31:48 https://lwn.net/Articles/757643/ very impressive wifi performance kernel fix for ath* series Jun 26 13:32:06 subscription required?1 Jun 26 13:32:12 also it mentioned thought ath10k is not fully open source, it can be justified to some extent Jun 26 13:32:34 stintel: oops, i was logged in lwn all the time, then it has to wait for one more week Jun 26 13:32:48 2 days. Jun 26 13:33:34 rmilecki: rofl, what a twat Jun 26 13:33:44 blogic: ? Jun 26 13:34:21 jow: we spoke about the rtl usb patches Jun 26 13:34:33 rmilecki kindly mailed the guy asking about the upstream status Jun 26 13:34:34 thx, jow Jun 26 13:34:41 considering the poor mtk performance i'm thinking back to full QCA for 11n and 11ac routers Jun 26 13:35:00 we received a shit-o-mail in return, telling us how irresponsible we are and that he refuses to communicate with us or our users Jun 26 13:35:13 Do share Jun 26 13:35:43 ... and arse on bucket ... @redhat.com ... somehow whenever i touch base with that crowd i am speechless about their aspi style behaviour Jun 26 13:36:21 anyhow, i am dropping the patches right now as they are apparently crappy regardless Jun 26 13:36:30 so we acieved what we wanted Jun 26 13:36:38 somehow its weirdo day today Jun 26 13:36:48 maybe @redhat is mad at us for not adopting systemd Jun 26 13:36:51 blogic: And not just here Jun 26 13:36:59 Monkeh: i noticed Jun 26 13:37:15 jow: or for not being $corp sellouts Jun 26 13:37:30 who knows, who caresm sun is shining weather is sweet yeah Jun 26 13:37:31 I've been witness to a couple incidents of butthurtery around IRC already today Jun 26 13:38:23 * rmilecki reading reply Jun 26 13:38:35 * blogic dropping patches Jun 26 13:39:22 blogic: go agead Jun 26 13:39:24 ahead Jun 26 13:39:46 ... "I refuse to answer questions from anyone who emails me about rtl8xxxu on LEDE as a result of this." Jun 26 13:40:00 whats his grief anyway? Jun 26 13:40:28 that picking rtl8xxxu patches to OpenWrt was highly irresponsible due to them not being ready/finished Jun 26 13:40:38 ah Jun 26 13:40:56 so for once our fault was not that we didn't merge stuff but that we actually used it? Jun 26 13:41:28 seems you can never please the crowd Jun 26 13:41:30 So testing stuff is irresponsible? Jun 26 13:41:35 yes Jun 26 13:41:36 yes Jun 26 13:41:44 jow: lol Jun 26 13:41:59 Can't win. Jun 26 13:42:28 * jow is going to update the snapshot builders now Jun 26 13:42:39 brace for a potential flood of errors Jun 26 13:42:46 well, I was going to do some tests of openwrt on rb2011 today Jun 26 13:42:54 irresponsible. Jun 26 13:42:55 but it loos like someone dropped the ball Jun 26 13:42:57 jow: wait Jun 26 13:42:59 looks* Jun 26 13:43:04 jow: i wanna cherry-pick this patch Jun 26 13:43:12 which one? Jun 26 13:43:14 Please wear your safety belt and keep your arms and legs inside the channel at all times Jun 26 13:43:18 lol Jun 26 13:43:20 mac80211: rtl8xxxu: drop support patches Jun 26 13:43:20 After a very enlightening but unfortunately far to short exchange with Jes Jun 26 13:43:23 we mutually agreed to drop the patches. They are unfortunately not ready Jun 26 13:43:26 Signed-off-by: John Crispin Jun 26 13:43:28 that one Jun 26 13:43:30 yet. Jun 26 13:43:37 s/to/too/ Jun 26 13:43:45 touchee Jun 26 13:44:21 * ausjke has not touched redhat since redhat 8.0 Jun 26 13:44:52 cant say a thing about redhat Jun 26 13:45:02 and rpm etc still makes me sick Jun 26 13:45:03 blogic: Acked-by: Rafał Miłecki Jun 26 13:47:36 https://imgflip.com/i/2cwu4f Jun 26 13:48:04 karlp: :D Jun 26 13:48:07 :-D Jun 26 13:48:08 lol Jun 26 13:49:28 of course, this just leads to "nowivemademyselfsad.gif" Jun 26 13:49:35 but onwards, onwards to glory. Jun 26 13:49:56 up up and away Jun 26 13:50:30 right, back to patchery Jun 26 13:50:55 no sourcery? Jun 26 13:51:13 no, just sauce Jun 26 13:51:16 real sauce Jun 26 13:51:16 sorry i missed church, was praticing withcraft Jun 26 13:51:19 :D Jun 26 13:52:33 https://www.wi-fi.org/news-events/newsroom/wi-fi-alliance-introduces-wi-fi-certified-wpa3-security Jun 26 13:54:30 blogic: weren't these patches for rtl8188eu support only? Jun 26 13:54:33 or mostly Jun 26 13:54:43 i think we still could leave rtl8xxxu package Jun 26 13:55:20 oh you mean the Makefile part ? Jun 26 13:55:24 yes Jun 26 13:55:33 not sure :-D Jun 26 13:55:37 blogic: leaving the "define KernelPackage/rtl8xxxu" & friends Jun 26 13:56:22 Upstream uncooperative, light on fire and walk away. :P Jun 26 13:56:24 lets try Jun 26 13:56:40 Monkeh: no no, lets not go that road Jun 26 13:56:45 we'd be like our own users Jun 26 13:56:51 i like upstream Jun 26 13:57:04 there are just like with any other crowd the odd weirdos Jun 26 13:57:25 and they might even be sound folk, that just had a bad day Jun 26 13:57:53 see in my case, you guys are the upstream Jun 26 13:57:57 so whats your excuse? :D Jun 26 13:58:08 we're lazy and easily annoyed Jun 26 13:58:11 haha Jun 26 13:58:21 blogic: are you done now? Jun 26 13:58:23 humans suck, rocks are cool Jun 26 13:58:32 jow: sorry Jun 26 13:58:53 los, los, schnell, schnell Jun 26 13:59:54 on topic, I added 2.5 and 10G to netifd and it seems to work ok Jun 26 14:00:47 10000F shows up in the adv/supported arrays anyway Jun 26 14:00:49 No love for the 5? Jun 26 14:00:58 bleh, 5 Jun 26 14:01:07 2.5 is already ridiculous enough Jun 26 14:01:27 but theres some marvell kit supported by the mvebu target that may do it Jun 26 14:11:20 jow: recon you could just quickly commit these two lines? shouldn't make any real impact on file size... https://github.com/joeholden/netifd/commit/6c38041e9ded628b82ecb6769f85c6b6cc2548b7#diff-9c844cc826ac41ce9671db4a17020442R1691 Jun 26 14:11:26 reckon* Jun 26 14:13:03 what is "lpadvertising" ? Jun 26 14:13:36 build #460 of arc770/generic is complete: Exception [build exception setproperty] Build details are at http://phase1.builds.lede-project.org/builders/arc770%2Fgeneric/builds/460 blamelist: Daniel Engberg , Christian Lamparter , Sibren Vasse , Alex Maclean Jun 26 14:13:36 , Lucian Cristian , Hans Dedecker , Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant , Philip Prindeville , Zoltan HERPAI , Alin Nastac , John Crispin Jun 26 14:13:38 build #46 of mediatek/mt7622 is complete: Exception [build exception setproperty] Build details are at http://phase1.builds.lede-project.org/builders/mediatek%2Fmt7622/builds/46 blamelist: Daniel Engberg , Christian Lamparter , Sibren Vasse , Alex Maclean Jun 26 14:13:38 , Lucian Cristian , Hans Dedecker , Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant , Philip Prindeville , Zoltan HERPAI , Alin Nastac , John Crispin Jun 26 14:13:41 build #46 of mediatek/mt7623 is complete: Exception [build exception setproperty] Build details are at http://phase1.builds.lede-project.org/builders/mediatek%2Fmt7623/builds/46 blamelist: Daniel Engberg , Christian Lamparter , Sibren Vasse , Alex Maclean Jun 26 14:13:41 , Lucian Cristian , Hans Dedecker , Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant , Philip Prindeville , Zoltan HERPAI , Alin Nastac , John Crispin Jun 26 14:13:41 oh, ignore the other bits, but I added that for my own reporting - array similar to advertising that shows what the other side is advertising during autoneg Jun 26 14:13:43 build #882 of ixp4xx/harddisk is complete: Exception [build exception setproperty] Build details are at http://phase1.builds.lede-project.org/builders/ixp4xx%2Fharddisk/builds/882 blamelist: Daniel Engberg , Christian Lamparter , Sibren Vasse , Alex Maclean Jun 26 14:13:43 , Lucian Cristian , Hans Dedecker , Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant , Philip Prindeville , Zoltan HERPAI , Alin Nastac , John Crispin Jun 26 14:13:45 build #909 of cns3xxx/generic is complete: Exception [build exception setproperty] Build details are at http://phase1.builds.lede-project.org/builders/cns3xxx%2Fgeneric/builds/909 blamelist: Daniel Engberg , Christian Lamparter , Sibren Vasse , Alex Maclean Jun 26 14:13:45 , Lucian Cristian , Hans Dedecker , Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant , Philip Prindeville , Zoltan HERPAI , Alin Nastac , John Crispin Jun 26 14:13:48 build #284 of ar71xx/tiny is complete: Exception [build exception setproperty] Build details are at http://phase1.builds.lede-project.org/builders/ar71xx%2Ftiny/builds/284 blamelist: Daniel Engberg , Christian Lamparter , Sibren Vasse , Alex Maclean , Jun 26 14:13:48 Lucian Cristian , Hans Dedecker , Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant , Philip Prindeville , Zoltan HERPAI , Alin Nastac , John Crispin Jun 26 14:13:50 build #896 of x86/generic is complete: Exception [build exception setproperty] Build details are at http://phase1.builds.lede-project.org/builders/x86%2Fgeneric/builds/896 blamelist: Daniel Engberg , Christian Lamparter , Sibren Vasse , Alex Maclean , Jun 26 14:13:50 Lucian Cristian , Hans Dedecker , Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant , Philip Prindeville , Zoltan HERPAI , Alin Nastac , John Crispin Jun 26 14:13:52 build #173 of mvebu/cortexa9 is complete: Exception [build exception setproperty] Build details are at http://phase1.builds.lede-project.org/builders/mvebu%2Fcortexa9/builds/173 blamelist: Daniel Engberg , Christian Lamparter , Sibren Vasse , Alex Maclean Jun 26 14:13:53 , Lucian Cristian , Hans Dedecker , Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant , Philip Prindeville , Zoltan HERPAI , Alin Nastac , John Crispin Jun 26 14:14:00 untested though as I don't have any kit I can flash that supports it atm Jun 26 14:14:43 * f00b4r0 fixes Jun 26 14:14:53 except runtime tests in a VM that emulates 10G Jun 26 14:15:21 f00b4r0: which ccache should be failOnError false Jun 26 14:15:32 aye Jun 26 14:15:33 fixing Jun 26 14:16:10 jow: https://gist.github.com/joeholden/e8613a5ed1a8fe63e1a4378379312a52 Jun 26 14:16:20 "Link partner advertised link modes" Jun 26 14:16:30 jow: should I make that a separate patch or rebase? Jun 26 14:16:34 Can anyone pretend to be my router even if they don't know the pre-shared key? Jun 26 14:16:46 For example if I use a travel router. Jun 26 14:16:46 jwh: ah, I thought it has something to do with low popwer mode Jun 26 14:16:54 ah Jun 26 14:16:59 f00b4r0: whatever you prefer Jun 26 14:17:11 well it is kinda, the link partner modes requires energy efficient ethernet iirc Jun 26 14:17:20 jwh: what about "peer-advertising" as json label? Jun 26 14:17:28 jow: fixed (hopefully) Jun 26 14:17:33 with rebase Jun 26 14:17:37 whatever works tbh, I just used the same name the kernel uses Jun 26 14:17:58 peer-advertising looks better, though Jun 26 14:19:16 jow: setting haltOnFailure, flunkOnFailure and warnOnFailure all to False Jun 26 14:19:29 if documentation is correct, that should be enough Jun 26 14:20:39 jow: although it kinda breaks the link-* pattern Jun 26 14:20:42 hm Jun 26 14:23:36 link-partner? Jun 26 15:11:01 gninrom Jun 26 15:26:14 jow: https://github.com/joeholden/netifd/compare/ethtool Jun 26 15:26:15 perhaps? Jun 26 16:00:22 jow: https://pastebin.com/EKGMb2cQ Jun 26 16:00:58 blogic Jun 26 16:03:12 https://betanews.com/2018/06/26/wi-fi-alliance-wpa3-certification/ Jun 26 16:24:46 There are popping up some more Go package PRs, but I think nobody really reviews them as the golang build environment is somewhat new and probably only @jefferyto completely understands it. Would it make sense to create a new repo specially for Go packages or make somebody a "Go maintainer" as the build process is so different to C? Jun 26 16:26:13 we don't do it for python, or lua, or.... Jun 26 16:26:33 best we can do is treat it the same way. Jun 26 16:36:07 So, it seems Easy Connect is the new WPS. I hope it has stronger security than WPS Jun 26 16:38:20 go doesn't really play well with embedded devices AIUI Jun 26 16:38:31 considering how all binaries are statically linked Jun 26 16:40:13 T-Bone sorry what mean AIUI? Jun 26 16:40:24 As I Understand It Jun 26 16:41:10 I'm running OpenWrt on some servers/vms just as I like it's setup/configuration more than debian. So at least for me the use case is not limited on embedded hardware Jun 26 16:41:25 ty Jun 26 16:41:51 luaraneda isn't it like wps +mesh? Jun 26 16:41:55 makes sense. But down that road lies the path to making OWRT a full linux distribution. Dunno if that's the ultimate goal :) Jun 26 16:43:15 karlp yes, just that that I think no person with commit right really feels tempted to check them (or has the time) Jun 26 16:43:49 so... just like other packages? Jun 26 16:43:56 again, this is just like for python and lua. Jun 26 16:44:14 aparcar: the problem with extra feeds that have their own governance is the lack of control and trust Jun 26 16:44:42 T-Bone just curious, do you think it's development in a wrong direction to adapt to more use cases (if it can be avoided to bloat the core system) Jun 26 16:44:57 karlp as I said before, you're the person with experience while I'm just stumbling around. I guess ur just right Jun 26 16:45:02 as they run through our build infrastructure, uploaded to our mirrors and signed with our keys there needs to be some review process in place Jun 26 16:45:31 I know that setting up extra feeds is tempting, especially to easily inject packages into the openwrt ecosystem, bypassing all the usual churn Jun 26 16:46:33 but there is little sandboxing, a feed can do a lot of thangs that would be problematic, ranging from easily injecting malware and backdoors (I know this far fetched), providing sloppy packaging leading to build errors or override packages from other feeds Jun 26 16:47:37 until recently a broken host build in a random feed pacakge could also easily kill the entire snapshot build process Jun 26 16:47:55 so what we need is some kind off PPA ecosystem with corresponding build infrastructure Jun 26 16:48:10 heh Jun 26 16:48:15 then users can simply use whatever binary opkg repos they want Jun 26 16:48:25 e.g. a dedicated go-lang repo Jun 26 16:48:59 jow: what do you think to updated array name btw? they all suck tbf Jun 26 16:50:06 please don't get me wrong on this. I did not mean to create a Go feed which is included per default. But more the general question if people are annoyed be the current "bloating" packages which are not of general use for an OS focused on embedded devices. So should these Go people start their own infra and offer that as an unofficial "community" repo or is it actually no problem propose the packages to openwrt/packages Jun 26 16:50:06 link-partner feels like a sensible compromise Jun 26 16:50:18 jwh: would work for me Jun 26 16:50:19 (there's nothing at all stopping you from runing your own feeds for your own private on the side go-community) Jun 26 16:50:36 aparcar: I don't think its a matter of bloat (yet) Jun 26 16:50:52 you jsut tell people to echo "git-src blah@blah.blah:blah.git" >> feeds.conf && ./scripts/feeds update blah Jun 26 16:50:53 just a question on how thin human resources can be spread Jun 26 16:51:14 and whether the goal is to be part of the binary pacakge universe or not Jun 26 16:51:30 jow: cool, well its buikd and runtime tested, do you want it sent to the list? (if so, how d9 i do that in git cli?) Jun 26 16:51:35 build Jun 26 16:51:44 jwh: git-send-email Jun 26 16:51:50 rgr Jun 26 16:51:51 (probably have to install it as an extra package) Jun 26 16:51:57 git send-email --to openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org HEAD^ Jun 26 16:52:02 okies Jun 26 16:52:12 jow always witht he more completely helpful answer :) Jun 26 16:52:14 assuming the other git-mail setup is in place (stmp server, user, pass) Jun 26 16:52:17 will do that in a bit when im home from the pub :D Jun 26 16:53:00 ill figure it out Jun 26 16:53:09 aparcar: we also need to find a way to scale up our pacakge build system Jun 26 16:53:20 right now we periodically build all packages from all feeds Jun 26 16:53:22 aren't we working on that? :D Jun 26 16:53:23 * T-Bone hides Jun 26 16:53:56 in the future I'd like to fetch updated makefiles only and let the SDK process just changed packages and their dependency subtree Jun 26 16:54:33 this however requires in-place updates to the opkg repo or some kind of package index merging Jun 26 16:54:46 or server-side reindexing Jun 26 16:54:47 jow you got this nice travis script which detects changes Jun 26 16:55:06 it has some flaws Jun 26 16:56:44 you can use travis to do matrix builds, up to 200 builds per push. If it only rebuilds parts of the package there shouldn't be timeouts I think Jun 26 16:57:54 jow could you elaborate? Jun 26 16:58:07 you mean giving away the signing process? Jun 26 16:58:13 call me old-fashioned but I still don't understand the business of Travis, which makes me question their future availability Jun 26 16:58:39 also you cannot fully control the build env on travis iirc Jun 26 16:58:52 it also does not solve the repo merge and repo signing problem Jun 26 16:58:53 * ldir calls jow old fashioned ;-) Jun 26 16:58:58 which are the hardest parts to solve Jun 26 16:59:33 we probably need to implement some kind of pacakge upload queue for this which is regularily consolidated into the common repo Jun 26 17:00:18 this raises the trust question again Jun 26 17:00:36 you probably need trusted uploaders (humans or systems, does not matter) Jun 26 17:07:35 sounds like a case for ucert Jun 26 17:10:02 regarding the upload queue, aren't there plenty of solution for this due to the popularity of CI? Jun 26 17:14:01 jow: https://pastebin.com/EKGMb2cQ is enough? Jun 26 17:14:02 what you want sounds like wanna-build/buildd in the debian world Jun 26 17:19:42 muhaha: "kernel: gpio-nct5104d: support more APU boardnames" Jun 26 17:20:21 muhaha: commit description must have less than 75 characters per line Jun 26 17:20:34 muhaha: has to be read as missing linebreaks Jun 26 17:22:41 the code probably doesn't do what you think it does either Jun 26 17:22:49 and it has redundant checks Jun 26 17:24:23 seems like there's a missing brace too, if i read this right Jun 26 17:33:20 mkresin: what Jun 26 17:34:58 muhaha: commit title wrong, missing linebreaks in commit message, you forgot to remove code and the logic in the condition doesn't work Jun 26 17:35:32 mkresin: Can you fix it, please? I am not a developer. Thanks Jun 26 17:35:53 hit enter for new lines :D Jun 26 17:36:04 code is wrong... Jun 26 18:01:03 muhaha: Could you please remind me/us of the original patch you're trying to sort out. I'm *very* sleep deprived at the moment but I *may*, very big *may* be able to look at it tomorrow. Jun 26 18:06:30 8 Jun 26 18:06:33 oops Jun 26 18:06:51 oo Jun 26 18:07:03 damn, it fell over Jun 26 18:07:08 lol Jun 26 18:07:09 lol Jun 26 18:22:45 muhaha: looks good, now send it as an email Jun 26 18:23:35 Can anyone pretend to be my hotspot even if they don't know the PSK? Jun 26 18:23:51 Can they simply accept any PSK? Jun 26 18:24:10 koops: no, that is not doable Jun 26 18:24:45 the wpa handshake is designed in a way that both sides need to know the real psk in order to verify each others messages Jun 26 18:24:54 jow: Thanks. I thought these VPN routers are useless because anyone can MitM your connection anyway. Jun 26 18:25:01 But it's not useless then. Jun 26 18:25:19 And if a hotspot skips the check? Jun 26 18:25:36 jow gotta sleep now, zones are always pain. However I'd be interested in more information on the upcoming build system + requirements. please keep me updated Jun 26 18:25:37 * time zones Jun 26 18:27:12 I want to get a travel router for connecting to open Wi-Fi networks through a VPN, so I am concerned about people still being able to tamper with the connection even with encryption. Jun 26 18:29:44 koops: it ultimatively boils down to how well your wireless client (mobile phone, laptop, ...) deals with foreign networks Jun 26 18:30:22 I didn't actually check but I could imagine that some wifi clients helpfully connect to an open network with a known ssid even if this ssid happens to be encrypted usually Jun 26 18:30:31 when i used to visit asia often, i had a small AP with me. i used that to connect to wifi/cable/... in offices and hotels Jun 26 18:30:45 that router did a reverse ssh tunnel to a server in germany Jun 26 18:30:52 you can pin down the network using a bssid Jun 26 18:30:56 and i connected my laptop to the router via cable Jun 26 18:31:04 but then nobody is stopping an attacker from cloning that bssid Jun 26 18:31:15 it will help against accidential network mixups though Jun 26 18:31:54 the security of the vpn ultimatively depends on how rebust the security handshake is implemented on top of untrusted (or even hostile) networks Jun 26 18:32:30 w/win 44 Jun 26 18:32:33 sorry Jun 26 18:33:24 ldir: This one https://pastebin.com/EKGMb2cQ Jun 26 18:33:44 wrong title, commit desc, wrong code Jun 26 18:35:01 I thought there was a version from about 10 days ago? Jun 26 18:35:33 the original 'upstream' one that you're trying to apply somehow. Jun 26 18:38:28 no, there is no official patch ... Jun 26 18:38:42 I just want to merge it to master and cherrypick to openwrt-18.06 Jun 26 18:39:53 ok, my memory must be playing tricks. Jun 26 18:48:24 One more question, how to build wrt without usbip ? I tryied CONFIG_PACKAGE_kmod-usbip=n Jun 26 18:48:24 CONFIG_PACKAGE_kmod-usbip-server=n Jun 26 18:48:24 CONFIG_PACKAGE_kmod-usbip-client=n but it complains... Jun 26 19:52:41 Is stp any use with dum APS Jun 26 20:21:01 stintel: is it evening yet? Jun 26 20:21:05 I appear to have gin Jun 26 20:21:08 it must be evening Jun 26 20:40:09 Do you recommend Linksys WRT3200ACM or going x86? Jun 26 20:41:36 I mostly do not care about Wi-Fi, 802.11ax is coming and currently no router or device supports it. Jun 26 20:42:26 Why buy 802.11ac now? Or maybe at least buying easily swappable Wi-Fi APs instead of routers is a good idea. Jun 26 20:48:32 Borromini: Maybe you can help Jun 26 20:48:32 Do you recommend Linksys WRT3200ACM or going x86? Jun 26 20:48:32 11:41 PM I mostly do not care about Wi-Fi, 802.11ax is coming and currently no router or device supports it. Jun 26 20:48:43 I will probably buy a separate AP Jun 26 20:49:46 erm hi Jun 26 20:50:08 wouldn't cost a linksys more than a similar x86 solution and leave you with redundant wireless Jun 26 20:50:08 dwmw2_gone: I was in the pub watching nigarg Jun 26 20:50:23 either way... i just joined. Jun 26 20:50:31 I'm not allowed to do that Jun 26 20:50:42 barred for shouting "pick it up and run with it, you pussies!" too many times Jun 26 20:50:47 dwmw2_gone: interesting that the python support is build-time only o_O Jun 26 20:50:51 :D Jun 26 20:51:38 dwmw2_gone: merged, thanks! Jun 26 20:51:42 ta. Jun 26 20:51:44 how about 18.06? Jun 26 20:51:55 well I'm not sure Jun 26 20:51:56 which is where I've done all my testing anyway :) Jun 26 20:52:08 I bet it's better tested on 18.06 than the old one is :) Jun 26 20:52:25 but domoticz is kinda niche, has probably not many users, and its versioning sucks Jun 26 20:52:29 so I'd say sure why not Jun 26 20:52:38 I guess I can cherry-pick Jun 26 20:52:38 koops the wrt3200acm is a good router I don't have x86 Jun 26 20:52:51 ∃ domoticz-18.06 branch in my packages repo Jun 26 20:52:55 which is a clean cherry-pick Jun 26 20:52:57 look for a referb on ebay and you can pick one up cheep Jun 26 20:53:37 dwmw2_gone: you know what, send a PR, I'm traveling so not at my main workstation Jun 26 20:53:42 ack Jun 26 20:53:43 accepting a PR is going to be easier ;) Jun 26 20:54:02 ultrabooks are nice except for productivity :P Jun 26 20:54:08 Tapper: How am I going to reflash it completely for security including bootloader? Jun 26 20:54:17 No refurb if it's impossible. Jun 26 20:55:17 koops o crap you are one of them! lol Jun 26 20:55:28 lol Jun 26 20:55:55 sorry then dude I dont know if you can reflash the boot loader on a wrt3200acm but it is uboot Jun 26 20:57:00 https://github.com/openwrt/packages/pull/6363 Jun 26 20:57:35 AFAIK you can't reflash bootloader or ART partitions because they're unique to a device. Jun 26 20:58:16 And if reflashing requires disassembling the router it's not an option. Jun 26 20:58:41 koops: why not get it over with and buy an x86 that you can run that free BIOS replacement on as well Jun 26 20:58:57 with your paranoia i wonder why you're even looking at embedded Jun 26 20:59:09 It will be a lot slower than the ones that do not support coreboot. Jun 26 20:59:22 maybe slower than good embedded. Jun 26 20:59:55 hmmm this gemini pda.. Jun 26 21:00:12 koops: No computer is safe for you to use. Jun 26 21:00:25 have to get used to it Jun 26 21:01:00 Indeed, reflashing everything is impossible. Jun 26 21:01:06 * azarus is waiting for the real hardware to test a port of OpenWrt on Jun 26 21:01:13 and no keyboard backlight makes it hard to use in the dark Jun 26 21:01:21 how do you survive daily life with this level of paranoia heh Jun 26 21:01:34 its rarely limited to one area Jun 26 21:01:56 Difficult, but possible. Jun 26 21:02:38 It used to be worse too. Jun 26 21:02:47 not everybody is out to get you Jun 26 21:03:27 True. Jun 26 21:03:36 most people just wanna get through the day, im sure you get that Jun 26 21:03:42 But some precautions do make sense. Jun 26 21:03:49 Some. Jun 26 21:03:50 Like no buying used hardware. Jun 26 21:03:51 Realistic ones. Jun 26 21:04:00 used hardware is fine Jun 26 21:04:16 you can buy brand new, sealed hardware that is pre-rooted Jun 26 21:04:20 You have no idea if it contains some APT's rootkits. Jun 26 21:04:27 If it's used Jun 26 21:04:43 99% of owners of hardware aren't smart enough to tamper with stuff in non-obvious ways Jun 26 21:05:10 also yup, how are new devices any safer if the manufactures can tamper with it? Jun 26 21:05:11 I'd estimate 50% of computers worldwide are compromised by some APT. Jun 26 21:05:18 The few who are go after far more valuable targets Jun 26 21:05:19 That's why I worry so much. Jun 26 21:05:22 they arent Jun 26 21:05:42 nobody you buy from really cares that much Jun 26 21:06:15 I don't know if I can even refer you to that, but read CryptoStorm's forum. Jun 26 21:06:53 I do not trust CryptoStorm (run by a zoophile, no joke) but they have interesting posts. Jun 26 21:07:38 i too can write interesting but completely bogus articles Jun 26 21:07:49 not really that impressive nor worthy of reading Jun 26 21:08:29 https://cryptostorm.org/viewtopic.php?t=8702 Jun 26 21:08:34 https://cryptostorm.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=8713 Jun 26 21:08:41 The second link was on HackerNews Jun 26 21:08:53 the trustworthies site on the net Jun 26 21:08:59 trustworthiest* Jun 26 21:09:35 lul Jun 26 21:11:46 I'm considering suicide to be honest, because I can't live in a world where like 50% or more of PCs are infected with *something*, and 80% of 50% or more is infected by multiple actors. Jun 26 21:11:59 Someone talk me out of this. Jun 26 21:12:22 Oh my paranoid "friend" was actually me. Jun 26 21:12:25 :-( Jun 26 21:12:37 (my older thoughts) Jun 26 21:15:49 It started after I read these articles, and got variably worse and better for 2+ years. Jun 26 21:17:28 there's such a thing as too much internet Jun 26 21:17:34 social media Jun 26 21:17:37 and smartphones Jun 26 21:18:03 Simply disconnect from all this crap for a while? Jun 26 21:18:25 you don't seem to be able to discern between FUD and real information Jun 26 21:18:27 It's like these articles rewired my brain on reading. Jun 26 21:18:32 granted, the internet makes that extremely difficult Jun 26 21:18:33 * Hauke installs openwrt 18.06 on a wrt54gs Jun 26 21:19:01 I actually had extreme anxiety and depression for 2+ years. Not just scary thoughts. Jun 26 21:19:39 Still, the logic is: can very powerful entities infect basically the entire internet? Yes? Then they did that long time ago. Jun 26 21:24:27 time to call it a night for me. Jun 26 21:24:28 Then you've got nothing to worry about Jun 26 21:29:36 Monkeh: I don't want to live in such world. Jun 26 21:30:11 koops dude I think you need to talk to some one that is not on the internet! Jun 26 21:30:52 It really is not worth harming your sellf over tech Jun 26 21:40:50 Tapper: Thanks. Jun 26 21:42:48 Except tech has become reality 2.0 Jun 26 21:43:06 More and more interactions move from physical world to digital one Jun 26 21:59:16 blogic: mt7621 sfp (port 5) is up and also see packets from the device on the network, but it is not getting anything back. Jun 26 22:02:28 Any idea where to look? Jun 26 22:07:50 Also you pointed me to mt7620 which is a lot different compare to mt7621 code. mt7621 isn't using the OF as much as mt7620 does. So shall I convert mt7621 code simulare to mt7620 or try using the mt7623 driver? Jun 26 22:15:48 dwmw2_gone: done Jun 26 22:16:22 my aeotec zstick g5 started locking up recently, so I ordered a razberry2 Jun 26 22:16:33 going to be redoing my entire zwave network soon Jun 26 22:18:17 Monkeh: Read this: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/FHXiYWt3/ Jun 26 22:18:28 from https://cryptostorm.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=8671 Jun 26 22:18:44 How bullshit this is? Maybe I'm worrying about complete crap. Jun 26 22:19:01 ooh, is it midnight already? Jun 26 22:19:19 "I know how to fix it but I won't tell you" is suspicious though. Jun 26 22:19:22 * drmr grabs tinfoil hat and gets ready for the chemtrail salute. Jun 26 22:20:11 I did see some symptoms from this text. SSL ones. Jun 26 22:21:14 And my machine running unstable. Jun 26 22:34:30 Hauke: best of luck Jun 26 22:35:10 koops: come to Acapulco to get your mind off this crap Jun 26 22:35:42 mangix: ? Jun 26 22:42:23 all this pointless paranoia. it does you no good. Jun 26 23:57:23 how does opendns make a profit if everyone uses its dns server for free? Jun 26 23:57:52 * ausjke jus found out opendns is part of cisco now Jun 27 00:00:07 ok just read it, for home personal use it's free, for business it is not. Jun 27 00:03:37 ausjke: they used to do this https://umbrella.cisco.com/blog/2014/05/29/no-more-ads/ Jun 27 00:03:40 heh Jun 27 00:04:01 turn nxdomain into some landing page with ads Jun 27 00:05:03 yes, ads, or premium(filtering at dns level) to make profit Jun 27 00:21:27 i think i _may_ have found something with the lantiq dsl snr/rate going down issue Jun 27 00:22:13 dsl_cpe_pipe.sh g997racs Jun 27 00:22:35 one of the streams is set to rate adaption mode 3 by default Jun 27 00:22:57 but things may go alot better when set to mode 2 Jun 27 00:23:11 dsl_cpe_pipe.sh g997racs 0 0 2 Jun 27 00:23:16 dsl_cpe_pipe.sh g997racs 0 1 2 Jun 27 00:23:23 dsl_cpe_pipe.sh g997racs 1 0 2 Jun 27 00:23:26 dsl_cpe_pipe.sh g997racs 1 1 2 Jun 27 00:23:52 /etc/init.d/dsl_control stop Jun 27 00:23:55 /etc/init.d/dsl_control start Jun 27 00:30:26 hmm, i dunno, i'll see, i could try mode 1 too Jun 27 00:30:52 but my max attainable rate and snr doesn't seem to be jumping around so far Jun 27 00:38:58 Data Rate: Down: 95.757 Mb/s / Up: 43.753 Mb/s Jun 27 00:39:11 Noise Margin (SNR): Down: 10.1 dB / Up: 11.1 dB Jun 27 00:39:23 Max. Attainable Data Rate (ATTNDR): Down: 111.427 Mb/s / Up: 51.595 Mb/s Jun 27 00:40:09 wonder if there is a way to unlock that downstream cap of 95.757 Jun 27 00:58:11 rock solid with that rate adaption mode 2 so far, not sure what would happen if there was noise on the line tho Jun 27 01:36:30 bReTxEnable wasn't enabled in both directions **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jun 27 03:00:01 2018