**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jul 04 03:00:04 2018 Jul 04 03:21:49 zx2c4: are you Wireguard dev? Jul 04 04:13:22 koops: yes Jul 04 04:20:50 No deadline for Windows? Jul 04 04:42:12 *yawn* Jul 04 04:50:35 dansan: that thing is underpowered as hell Jul 04 05:15:00 mangix: o'rly Jul 04 05:17:33 can't tell if sarcastic Jul 04 05:22:12 its a mt7621. i was wondering how anyone could use that Jul 04 05:22:19 its a SoC for 11ac wifi Jul 04 05:22:31 which is like 15% of the power required for a NAS Jul 04 05:23:01 specially at that price you can actually buy a proper NAS incl drives Jul 04 05:23:53 ahahaha Jul 04 05:23:58 its made by ldpinney Jul 04 05:23:59 lulz Jul 04 05:27:46 i got mine for free so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Jul 04 05:28:00 hah Jul 04 05:28:09 actually you did not get it for free Jul 04 05:28:24 you entered an unwritten agreement, that you will work on getting it supported Jul 04 05:28:31 which you have been investinbg time into Jul 04 05:35:24 fair enough Jul 04 05:42:51 'lo Jul 04 05:47:45 jow: hi there Jul 04 07:41:05 * ldir wanders in Jul 04 07:53:10 Who fancies a six-core, 128GB RAM, 8TB NVMe … laptop? Jul 04 07:53:14 https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/07/04/dell_mobile_workstation_refresh/ Jul 04 07:53:50 I would love one! lol Jul 04 07:54:21 * Tapper nods at ldir Jul 04 07:57:10 Tapper: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tWjLcZTv6JqWS0ryVqx5OOZ4v-dh0wiO/view?usp=sharing Jul 04 07:57:46 O nice start to the day! lol flashing time? Jul 04 07:58:36 day ends for me Jul 04 07:59:03 DSA driver? Jul 04 07:59:13 mhmm Jul 04 07:59:24 or what ever it's called Jul 04 08:01:25 what does mhmmm mean? Jul 04 08:01:32 dwmw2_gone: ping Jul 04 08:01:58 did you ad this patch? [PATCH] mvebu: Switch Linksys WRT series devices to DSA Jul 04 08:02:24 of course Jul 04 08:02:27 mhmm = yes Jul 04 08:02:35 K cool just chicking Jul 04 08:03:56 flashing now! Jul 04 08:06:09 I'm guessing mhmmm doesn't translate so well in a text to speech engine Jul 04 08:13:58 mangix it's alive! Jul 04 08:18:33 mangix do you want any logs or anything? Jul 04 08:20:12 Any spasific info? Jul 04 08:58:37 hmm. Jul 04 09:33:06 how can i automaticly press with openwrt the wifi-hotspot-button when i connect with openwrt to it? Jul 04 09:34:15 btw: you should rename also here the lede-dev irc room: https://forum.openwrt.org/ Jul 04 11:29:33 jow: ping any plans to fixup luci-app-coovachilli ?? Jul 04 12:36:45 it is lying to me, it says the port is up but it is now Jul 04 12:36:56 obviously I've done it wrong Jul 04 13:29:12 right so its definitely lying to me, Jul 04 13:29:27 knew it wasn't going to be that easy Jul 04 13:32:15 anyone fancy helping me figure this out? (still tinkering with the sfp port on rb2011) Jul 04 13:36:18 it would appear that something changed between rev 3 and rev 4, such that previous fixes no longer work Jul 04 13:54:52 blogic:ping Jul 04 14:03:22 dedeckeh: hi Jul 04 14:05:02 blogic:could you set https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/935727/ as accepted and https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/935728/ as superseded in patchwork ? Jul 04 14:05:58 done Jul 04 14:06:23 thx Jul 04 14:44:09 ldir: didn't we discuss using $(FPIC) instead of -fpic at the time? :) Jul 04 14:44:30 that commit doesn't really say _why_ it's changed either, just repeates what the diff is. Jul 04 14:45:25 TARGET_CFLAGS += $(FPIC) ??? Jul 04 14:46:08 I shall endeavour to better on the commit message in future. Jul 04 14:47:28 ldir: you pinged... is that redundant now? Jul 04 14:47:47 dwmw2_gone: yes it was re the atm stuff Jul 04 15:27:26 ldir: go stand in the corner, feel ashamed .... Jul 04 15:28:50 not really - there's always git revert and I'm not afraid to use it :-) Jul 04 15:31:55 * ldir ponders the meaning of life and pskb_expand_head. Jul 04 15:57:19 morning Jul 04 16:05:56 v Jul 04 16:06:00 when testing this dsa on dsl speed test I get: Jul 04 16:06:00 Jul 04 16:06:00 During upload the measured speed went to zero and stayed there error:1 Jul 04 16:06:00 Jul 04 16:06:00 The test noticed that uploading stopped. Here are some possible causes: Jul 04 16:06:01 Jul 04 16:06:01 The test for BufferBloat will not work Jul 04 16:06:35 I am on cable and when I reboot back to other partition n it works Jul 04 16:39:35 oi Jul 04 16:44:27 ldir: gorging on admin superpowers are we http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/openwrt-adm/2018-June/000823.html Jul 04 16:44:44 dwmw2_gone: ping - if you're around - when would you expect the pppoatm fix to actually appear in the stable backports? Jul 04 16:46:39 Borromini: hardly - expressing the opinion that it's good to be able to say 'aye' in some 'official' capacity. I'd say 'aye' either way. It's great Koen has commit 'powers' Jul 04 16:47:01 you know i'm teasing right. Jul 04 16:53:07 Tapper: weird. the whole point of DSA was to test latencies Jul 04 19:05:33 jow: ping Jul 04 20:06:48 mangix yeah I no rite! lol I was just testing with and with out softwair offloading and with and without SQM loaded Jul 04 20:12:11 btw pings stayed around 70 when under load Jul 04 20:12:50 witch seems to be around the same as with a standird build Jul 04 20:13:08 need to do more testing in the morning tho! Jul 04 20:16:42 I'm having some problems building host-python3, the ssl module fails to build, probably because libressl's symbols are overlapping / not matching. is this known? Jul 05 01:35:38 I just flashed today's openwrt 18.06 rc1 onto a tp-link tl-wdr3600 and it booted fine. Ran it for a few minutes, explored with linux shell and UCI for a little while, then flashed back to 17.01.04 with no problems. Jul 05 01:37:35 LUCI of 18.06 is very similar to 17.01.04, I didn't spot any difference , except most of the software version numbers are newer. Jul 05 01:38:21 So it passed the smoke test. Jul 05 01:45:54 Westislander: you expected something else? Jul 05 01:46:11 why go back to 17.01.4, anyway? Jul 05 01:48:38 1) Wanted to understand how upgrade works 2) Actually I wanted to be sure I had confidence in chances of rolling version back in case of some bug Jul 05 01:49:24 I just became aware that 18.06 "supported" release is imminent. Jul 05 01:52:24 it's usually pretty simple like that. there's probably no reason to not use 18.06rc1 Jul 05 01:52:43 Besides the very important work of bringing in the latest fixes etc. to all the components, I was wondering if are any fundamental differences between 17 and 18. Jul 05 01:53:22 Are you using 18? Jul 05 01:54:07 the most comprehensive answer of "what's changed" is to look at the commit history Jul 05 01:54:38 i'm not current, because my openwrt devices are only used occasionally in standalone temporary setups. Jul 05 01:55:09 and i "can't" use my own router at home right now Jul 05 01:56:25 (i could, but i'd need newer hardware with better performance, and i'd have to pester my ISP for my 802.1X login so i could ditch their gateway) Jul 05 01:57:06 which is impressively detailed but its pages and pages and pages 6000 + lines its hard to see the forest for the trees. Jul 05 01:57:32 For me stability and security are more important than a few percentage points of performance. Jul 05 01:58:36 security will always be had with the most recent build. rc1 should be pretty good overall, but it's an rc to help identify any remaining minor issues or corner cases that were hidden during testing Jul 05 02:00:01 i guess i shouldn't say "always" for security. the newest usually has all the known fixes, and hopefully no new bugs. but, this being the real world... something's always yet to be discovered :-) Jul 05 02:01:22 Westislander: https://openwrt.org/releases/18.06/start is a good starting point Jul 05 02:01:59 The OpenWrt 18.06 series focuses on support for network flow offloading and modernizing the Atheros AR71xx target. Jul 05 02:02:55 Am I correct to interpret network flow offloading as a way of reducing CPU cycle consumption in Openwrt? Jul 05 02:03:39 i believe it's for devices that have "hardware acceleration" chips that were previously completely unsupported Jul 05 02:03:46 From "uptime" over several days my CPU is about 99% idle. Jul 05 02:04:38 So I'm probably not going to experience much difference with 18 in this situation. Jul 05 02:07:43 Westislander: since i'm just a user at best, i'll shush and give anyone else with better knowledge a chance to respond :-) Jul 05 02:08:41 that is not quite correct Jul 05 02:09:08 and that's why i'm shushing :-) Jul 05 02:09:31 flow-offloading by itself is purely software based - and yes, it does help reducing CPU usage under (routing) load, which in turn can improve throughput performance Jul 05 02:10:04 there is also extended option of hardware flow-offloading, but so far that only exists for ramips (mt7620/ mt7621) Jul 05 02:10:30 drivers for additional architectures may be added in the future, but those don't exist yet Jul 05 02:10:41 Actually I just wanted to give success feedback on the latest build. " Big thanks to all the folks working on OpenWRT ". Jul 05 02:11:01 it's all very new (both in upstream linux (kernel >=4.16) and OpenWrt (kernel >=4.14) Jul 05 02:11:26 Is WPA3 part of the picture of OpenWRT 18.06? Jul 05 02:11:30 the reddit post from which you were apparently quoting is pretty bullshit though Jul 05 02:12:49 because ar71xx is still on kernel 4.9, which means it doesn't profit from flow-offloading yet - and the newer/ 'modernized' ath79 target, which will replace the mach-file based ar71xx target with a DTS (and kernel >=4.14) based one is not yet in 18.06, but only current master (and only supporting a handful of devices so far - work in progress) Jul 05 02:12:58 WPA3 doesn't really exist so far Jul 05 02:13:08 so no, it's not yet supported Jul 05 02:13:15 maybe next year, if we're lucky Jul 05 02:14:23 I have a pre-LEDE openwrt router installed on a site with a frustrating satellite uplink on a way-oversubscribed provider. Jul 05 02:14:50 that said, if you're setting up a new system, 18.06-rc1 would be a better starting point nevertheless (especially as there shouldn't be any sysupgrade/ config file issues between -rc1 and final; with the small exception of netgear ipq806x devices - but those will also need handholding between 17.01.x and 18.06~) Jul 05 02:16:19 for security reasons, anything below 17.01.4 should be upgraded urgently Jul 05 02:16:47 >=18.06-rc1 will also fix a couple of less critical security issues Jul 05 02:18:03 I agree, but Openwrt was way better than the 4 yr old vendor software on the previous router. Jul 05 02:18:39 Only have physical access maybe once or twice per year. Jul 05 02:19:37 if you have it on your desk now, take the chance to upgrade to 18.06-rc1, the final push to 18.06 should be safe (again, small exception for netgear ipq8065) Jul 05 02:23:17 What I plan to do is upgrade and configure same model router here at home, burn it in for at least 48 hours, then swap the hardware. Do you know if any penetration tests get run on openwrt? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jul 05 03:00:01 2018