**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 18 02:59:57 2019 Apr 18 07:30:09 wasn't there some hosting provider offering some capacitiy for openwrt infra? Apr 18 07:31:02 we're using DigitalOcean for a good part of our infra Apr 18 07:31:16 osuosl? Apr 18 07:41:27 stintel I wanted to create something like debian code search for openwrt, as it's quite a lot to process I though of asking for a temporary but fast VM Apr 18 08:48:35 what was the buildbot faillogs for 18.06 again? Apr 18 08:48:53 •URL Apr 18 08:56:37 http://release-builds.openwrt.org/18.06/images/ ? Apr 18 08:58:50 aparcar[m]: just write about it to the mailing list? BTW do you know, that it's possible to get $300 worth of credits on GCE for free for testing for one year? Apr 18 09:00:10 aparcar[m]: they've even allowed me to use pretty beefy nodes with 96 vCPUs on GCE Apr 18 09:00:57 for free, that is Apr 18 09:22:47 ynezz: sweet, thanks Apr 18 09:33:42 mangix: https://downloads.openwrt.org/releases/faillogs/ Apr 18 09:34:14 its a mixture of 17.01 and 18.06 though, need to untangle tha Apr 18 09:49:58 rmilecki: ping Apr 18 09:50:06 ldir: pong Apr 18 09:50:15 wow that was quick! Apr 18 09:50:27 working on brcmfmac right now :) Apr 18 09:51:33 I have some strange behaviour with block mounting and I'm asking you 'cos you're the person who touched it last/might give me some pointers. Apr 18 09:51:49 I supposed I'm to blame :) Apr 18 09:51:57 *to be blamed Apr 18 09:52:07 *suppose Apr 18 09:52:23 No it's not a blame issue... well not yet ;-) It's more what is wrong/what am I doing wrong :-) Apr 18 09:53:21 So I have Archer c7 v2, with 2 usb ports. One port has USB memory stick with a swap partition and another fs partition. it is normally called /dev/sda(1,2) Apr 18 09:53:58 sdb has a usb powered hard disc with one partition /dev/sdb1 Apr 18 09:54:05 ok Apr 18 09:54:33 When system initially boots these filesystems are mounted to /mnt/sda(1,2) & /mnt/sdb1 as expected. All is well. Apr 18 09:55:32 Then as system goes further in boot (around time procd completes init) /dev/sdb gets remounted onto the sda mount point. Apr 18 09:56:19 I've tried with ar71xx and also ath79, same behaviour. If I revert the big block mount commit, everything is normal. Apr 18 09:57:13 I haven't noticed until now because to be blunt, only the 'AP' has the 2nd USB drive hanging off of it.... and I never login to the AP to see what it's doing :-) Apr 18 09:57:24 ldir: what are exact mounting points during boot and after? Apr 18 09:57:42 Let me get that for you Apr 18 09:57:45 ldir: i supposed /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 /dev/sdb1 don't disappear and are always there? Apr 18 09:58:05 ldir: also, what's the big block mount commit? Apr 18 09:59:24 Your big fstools (?) update just after christmas Apr 18 10:00:17 5c4277ec376541b10f1acbea734aa29900eb5722 Apr 18 10:00:20 ok, i see 5c4277ec376541b10f1acbea734aa29900eb5722 ("fstools: update to the latest master branch") Apr 18 10:01:54 ldir: it could be helpful to find the first fstools commit that broke it Apr 18 10:02:55 yeah, let me reboot the ap and grab the info/show you the behaviour Apr 18 10:03:22 sure Apr 18 10:05:42 https://pastebin.com/kNPWEjfg - as the AP boots up - fs's are mounted all ok and then suddenly change Apr 18 10:07:49 With the patch reverted I see sdb unmount and then remount - I have no idea what is prompting this remount. Apr 18 10:09:36 uh, I see, sth's definitely wrong there Apr 18 10:11:46 yes very strange! So if I do not enable ''/mnt/sdb1'' and reboot, only 1 device is mounted as expected. if I then enable 'mnt/sdb1' and 'block mount' everything is mounted happily as well. It's something at init time. Apr 18 10:14:29 oh crap, I picked wrong brcmfmac patches Apr 18 10:14:47 too many backporting... Apr 18 10:14:53 *much Apr 18 10:15:37 * ldir hates backporting Apr 18 10:16:21 So this is a boot with sdb disabled, then manually enabled in /e/c/fstab, then block mount https://pastebin.com/TRGpdHH5 Apr 18 10:16:48 no idea what the hotplug call failed is about either. Apr 18 10:22:13 ldir: i'll look at that once I'm done fixing my brcmfmac backporting Apr 18 10:23:35 thank you - happy to test - sorry I can't be more specific/more clues as to the problem - good luck with backport! Apr 18 10:25:28 should be easy to reproduce, I just never tried connecting 2 hard drivers Apr 18 10:27:34 I hope it's as 'easy' as that - I would have thought someone would have noticed/screamed by now if it didn't involve another factor...eg. hardware Apr 18 10:36:02 I think it's visible in QEMU as well Apr 18 10:36:41 I remember seeing there /boot mounted two times Apr 18 12:36:59 when making own packages, the documentation talks about /home/buildbot/ with all kinds of subdirectories but doesn't say to create them. is this an already present dir? Apr 18 12:38:29 charolastra: when you git clone the openwrt repository (also referred buildroot and whatnot) it has all sorts of directories already Apr 18 12:39:02 ofcourse you do need to create something for your packages, but that wasn't what you asked :) Apr 18 12:50:02 ah now i see, it's the root of the folder where i cloned the source into Apr 18 13:15:04 kernel bumps pushed to staging Apr 18 14:44:47 xback: I get Automatically load TTY Line Disciplines (LDISC_AUTOLOAD) [Y/n/?] (NEW) aborted! on 4.14.112 Apr 18 14:44:57 missing config symbol Apr 18 14:45:13 ldir: thanks a lot! Apr 18 14:50:54 oh I'm still happy to fall into traps :-) Apr 18 15:11:31 can custom packages be used to overwrite config files of other packages? like deploying a different /etc/config/network? Apr 18 15:28:52 for now i use the source/files mechanism with etc/config/ subfolder but would like to package my project Apr 18 15:36:25 ldir: just pushed update for the bumps, master + openwrt-18.06. should be fine now Apr 18 15:36:49 as always, your very early testing is appreciated! Apr 18 16:25:34 xback: it builds now at least :-) Apr 18 16:56:23 karlp: normally the decision which hardware / IP core to buy is not done by the software people Apr 18 16:57:03 and it always worked to let the hardware expert make the decision and the softwrae people will find a way to make it work Apr 18 17:06:42 ..like there is plenty other options especially after the fact =) Apr 18 17:15:53 Add randomness with 128 bytes Apr 18 17:15:54 6speed_tag: 0 otp_ver: 0 mkt_id: 1 otp_ult: 0x9A68321276250009 feature_bits:0x00004117 Apr 18 17:16:01 does this look familiar to anyone? :P Apr 18 17:17:56 aha: https://pastebin.com/ZMu9U1ih Apr 18 17:18:48 but after that no output :( Apr 18 17:18:51 this is a google home btw Apr 18 17:19:01 google home mini* Apr 18 17:26:44 I'm toying with the idea of upgrading to a more powerful linux router (running openwrt of course) from archer C7 - I suspect x86 is the way forward, probably relegating the archer to AP duties only. Anyone any suggestions on an x86 box? compact, quiet. Apr 18 17:30:35 ldir: well... atom/avoton maybe? picopsu... I run similar at our hackerspace router Apr 18 17:30:59 ldir: PCEngines APU2, depending on your needs in terms of performance Apr 18 17:32:25 compact, passive cooling, 3x intel NICs, mini-PCIe, very stable Apr 18 17:32:33 I saw someone recommend this on the forum: Apr 18 17:32:37 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/QOTOM-Pfsense-Mini-PC-with-celeron-3855U-3865U-processor-and-6-Gigabit-NICs-Serial-Fanless-Mini/32876420548.html Apr 18 17:32:42 but the CPU is significantly slower than recent Intel Apr 18 17:33:15 I think the apu2 would be of better build quality though Apr 18 17:36:21 hmm, apu2 looks like the sort of thing and not horrendously expensive. Apr 18 17:38:35 Check this topic for further discussion on various low-power x86 boxes: https://forum.openwrt.org/t/j1900-performance-issue/35258 Apr 18 17:39:53 the device posted last is interesting, its the current gen amd embedded (ie what pc engines would use if they upgrade to current gen soc) Apr 18 17:39:55 https://www.sapphiretech.com/en/commercial/amd-ipc-fp5r Apr 18 17:40:13 complete with 10gbps ports (only 2 though) Apr 18 17:42:00 ldir: performance-wise, I benchmarked an APU2 at 60-90 kpps when routing UDP, 150-250 kpps when routing TCP, and 130-200 kpps when bridging Apr 18 17:43:34 abenz: interesting! Apr 18 17:43:51 thanks for the pointers/links - I shall think some more. I like the apu2 as I can buy a complete kit of board & box to put it in. Apr 18 17:44:30 :) Apr 18 17:44:33 it's fun to assemble Apr 18 17:44:48 abenz: ouch, that 2x10G box seems to need 150W of power... :/ Apr 18 17:45:30 zorun_: and I wonder how those marvel based nics perform Apr 18 17:46:24 I 'just' want something that'll router/firewall/cake qdisc an 80/20 line without me needing to even remotely think about CPU. Apr 18 17:46:57 ldir: you'll be just fine then Apr 18 17:47:10 the apu2 fits the bill Apr 18 17:47:48 what about openwrt? Apr 18 17:47:49 dual 10gigE nice Apr 18 17:48:01 even a ipq40xx based device will do that Apr 18 17:48:09 ldir: 80/20? yeah my RSPro handled that Apr 18 17:48:10 and those can be had very cheap Apr 18 17:48:22 ERL would handle that too Apr 18 17:48:38 but that's not very future proof Apr 18 17:48:41 I've seen the odd 'battle' with patches/openwrt and apu Apr 18 17:48:57 ldir: on apu2? works out of the box, except maybe the LEDs yeah Apr 18 17:48:58 I'm running an APU2 as my main router in .bg and .be Apr 18 17:49:17 for 2 or 3 years (don't remember when it came out exactly) Apr 18 17:49:40 ok, that answers that question then :-) Just need to get Mrs ldir's permission to spend some money. Apr 18 17:49:56 yeah since early 2016. it's quite a nice device actually Apr 18 17:51:31 hmmm Apr 18 17:51:49 wonder if there's any point in backporting compile fixes to 18.06 Apr 18 17:52:06 it reminds of these sort of devices https://www.firebrick.co.uk/support/legacy-products/ Apr 18 17:53:16 abenz: thanks for that sapphire link :) Apr 18 17:54:16 stintel: :) Apr 18 17:54:36 can you use the 3rd port on the apu as a 'mirror'/monitor port? Apr 18 17:54:50 ldir: sure Apr 18 17:55:09 ldir: it's just going to be done in software as it does not have a switch chip Apr 18 17:55:27 oh I see. Apr 18 17:56:05 right, finished at work, time to go home.... Apr 18 17:56:15 ldir: i had my brother get an APU2 as well :^) Apr 18 17:56:20 (not my money :-P ) Apr 18 17:56:24 thats a double edged sword, ports being individual nics that is. Gives you greater control and you can do fancy things like bonding Apr 18 17:56:50 but no switch makes everything go through cpu which might be taxing depending on your loads Apr 18 17:57:08 abenz: 2x10gigE should be enough, you could do a bond over them, and then vlan for all your segments Apr 18 17:57:11 nothing a cheap tplink switch cant fix though :) Apr 18 17:57:16 ldir: openwrt will just configure the one ethernet port by default. eth0 afaik. keep that in mind. You need to bridge stuff yourself, like stintel said. Apr 18 17:57:35 stintel: yup Apr 18 17:57:47 * stintel is getting excited. my Power8 box is arriving tomorrow =) Apr 18 17:57:59 oh. storage Apr 18 17:58:54 right, have some spare HDDs to start Apr 18 17:59:49 fancy schmancy Apr 18 19:02:24 Hellloooo Apr 18 19:36:23 Hauke: Do you have any more tips on how to debug the issue of Android Q not connecting to OpenWRT WAPs when WPA3 is enabled? I already tried hostapd from upstream git master but the behavior was the same. Apr 18 19:36:52 mamarley: you could activate full debug logging Apr 18 19:40:30 Hauke: You mean like executing it with -dd or is there something else? Apr 18 19:55:27 mamarley: yes Apr 18 19:56:11 OK, I had already tried it with log_level=0 and it printed nothing during the connection attempt. Let me see if I can figure out how to start it with -dd now. Apr 18 19:59:24 what is diff between https://linitx.com/product/linitx-apu2-d4-network-firewall-4gb-ram-(3nic+usb+rtc)-with-pfsense--pre-configured-kit/15318 and https://linitx.com/product/linitx-apu2-d4-4gb-(3nic+usb+rtc)-pfsense-msata-firewall-kit---silver/16019 Apr 18 19:59:24 other than price Apr 18 20:27:31 Nice shout outs from Mozilla https://hacks.mozilla.org/2019/04/introducing-mozilla-webthings/ Apr 18 20:28:23 We’re also excited to share that we’ve been working on a new OpenWrt-based build of WebThings Gateway, aimed at consumer wireless routers. This version of WebThings Gateway will be able to act as a wifi access point itself, rather than just connect to an existing wireless network as a client. Apr 18 20:28:23 gateway Apr 18 20:34:48 ldir ping Apr 18 20:39:51 Tapper: pong Apr 18 20:40:15 Hi dude are you set on going x86 or would you use mvebu Apr 18 20:40:35 I have a wrt1900ac v2 you can have if you like Apr 18 20:41:43 My syster was using it but she got a new shitty hub thing off her ISP and has to use it so... Apr 18 20:42:25 that's very kind - I'm not sure....let me explain. Apr 18 20:43:34 Traditionally I've had single box solutions eg. modem, router, wifi all in one box. But there are reasons why that's maybe not the best idea. Apr 18 20:44:19 Modem needs to be in best place for phone line. May not be best for wireless etc Apr 18 20:44:46 Hauke: I am unable to figure out how to launch hostapd with the "-dd" parameter (I can't find where it is actually invoked and attempting to kill it and re-execute it using the same command line except with "-dd" added causes it to execute again without the "-dd" and to not work anyway. When I run it with "log_level=0" in the UCI config, however, it prints absolutely nothing in the log during the failed connection attempt. Apr 18 20:44:46 I am still thinking this issue is probably on the Android side. Apr 18 20:44:48 ldir: unless you have speeds significantly above 80/20 on the horizon, ipq806x, mvebu and probably ipq40xx should do the job easily Apr 18 20:44:49 Yeah I use a wrt3200acm for mane router and c7-v2 as dumb AP plus i have a sekend AP that is for my naber a wdn750 Apr 18 20:45:06 so I went 2 box solution - modem where it needs to be and combined router/wifi AP. But this has cpu limitation. Apr 18 20:46:32 I'm on 100/40, using a nbg6817 (ipq8065), which is much faster than it needs to be - not using SQM though Apr 18 20:47:07 I'm thinking biting the bullet and saying 'box for modem', 'box for routing/firewalling/intrusion detection', 'boxes for wifi AP' Apr 18 20:47:25 Well I am not using it rite now anyway mate so you can even test it out if you like we don't live far away it would cost me about £6 to send it to you I think. Apr 18 20:47:35 You can still do that with a WRT1900; just turn the WiFi off and pretend. Apr 18 20:47:57 mamarley lol Apr 18 20:48:08 x86 makes a lot of sense, just keep in mind that x86 usually goes hand in hand with a managed switch (due to the shortage of ethernet ports on most x86 devices) Apr 18 20:48:16 Just think about anyway mate Apr 18 20:48:33 brb Apr 18 20:49:04 It would save you ££ and if you find any bugs in the mvebu code it's a win for me to lol Apr 18 20:58:28 am back briefly before calling it a night - in essence I don't want to have to think about cpu anymore whilst doing 80/20 with cake sqm, wireguard (at possibly those sorts of rates) iptables rules, firewalling, maybe play with intrusion detection. All stuff that requires ram, storage & cpu. In essence a 'pc' but without a display, keyboard, just a few network ports. Apr 18 20:59:25 ldir sounds like fun mate lol Apr 18 21:00:26 have a look around then see what you can find on x86 there was a nice box from erer Apr 18 21:00:37 hang on I forget the vender Apr 18 21:00:40 ldir: for the stuff you mentioned (maybe except for intrusion detection, because that is really heavy on CPU cycles - although I do now commercial vendors doing that on ipq40xx), mvebu/ wrt1900acv2 should do that easily Apr 18 21:01:16 I think it was asrock- Apr 18 21:01:17 easily as in easily up to 2-3 times the speed you need Apr 18 21:01:25 With 2 lan ports Apr 18 21:06:16 cheers guys - am calling it a night. :-) Apr 18 21:08:57 ldir this https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-uBOX-111-Fanless-Industrial-Barebone/dp/B014S3EIIE Apr 18 21:09:12 O nite dude Apr 18 21:18:26 Tapper: that looks like a nice unit Apr 18 21:18:56 yeah the intel nics are a + too Apr 18 22:35:39 ldir: https://www.jetwaycomputer.com/JBC385F551.html Apr 18 22:42:42 sadly Jetway is basically non-existent on the european market Apr 18 22:55:25 pkgadd: i got mine in europe Apr 18 22:55:52 anteor.com Apr 18 22:55:58 jetway has a couple european suppliers Apr 18 22:58:31 interesting, the last time I looked for them they simply weren't available **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Apr 19 02:59:57 2019