**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jun 29 02:59:57 2019
Jun 29 06:31:46 <Slimey> yawn
Jun 29 07:18:50 <Pepe> I compiled locally one package with conffiles. When I looked at it, I see there is file with the same name as the package in /lib/upgrade/keep.d, but when I download it from the repository and look in the package, I see that there is no /lib/upgrade/keep.d at all.
Jun 29 09:45:52 * ldir has just read https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-48527308 with a certain amount of disbelief
Jun 29 09:49:03 <Borromini> first time ldir ? :D
Jun 29 09:49:13 <Borromini> it's a very un-german story
Jun 29 09:49:24 <Borromini> BER - the airport that never gets finished
Jun 29 09:49:50 <ldir> yeah, it's like we've been exporting our incompetence!
Jun 29 09:52:01 <Borromini> it's mindboggling
Jun 29 09:52:43 <Borromini> Tempelhof has been closed down, and Berlin Tegel is choking on itself
Jun 29 09:52:55 <Borromini> last time i was there it was nuts.
Jun 29 09:52:57 <Tapper> ldir interesting.
Jun 29 09:53:54 <Tapper> Thanks for posting that link. It's all ways the same when people get involved with stuff and the don't know what they are doing.
Jun 29 09:54:18 <Tapper> Like politicians and the internets
Jun 29 09:55:07 <ldir> Tapper: I ordered some jsc 6pin connector leads for when your device arrives so I don't have to solder it.
Jun 29 09:55:35 <Tapper> OK thanks dude I still havent posted it I am sorry.
Jun 29 09:55:40 <Tapper> I will soon tho
Jun 29 09:55:49 <Borromini> ldir: are you resuscitating tapper's linksys?
Jun 29 09:55:58 <ldir> no problem - connectors not arrived!
Jun 29 09:55:59 <Tapper> I have it packaged up with some ole amazon boxs
Jun 29 09:56:05 <Tapper> old*
Jun 29 09:56:36 <ldir> Borromini: yes - see what comes out the serial port and go from there
Jun 29 09:56:47 <Borromini> neat
Jun 29 09:56:53 <Tapper> He's going to try. It all depends on how bad I broke it lol
Jun 29 09:57:29 <DonkeyHotei> i don't recall off the top of my head whether the antenna wires are U.FL or soldered on
Jun 29 09:57:45 <ldir> I'll find out :-)
Jun 29 09:57:49 <Tapper> soldered
Jun 29 09:58:05 <DonkeyHotei> it's dead, jim
Jun 29 09:58:19 <Tapper> why?
Jun 29 09:58:52 <DonkeyHotei> you can't just resolder a tiny coaxial antenna wire
Jun 29 09:59:12 <Tapper> DonkeyHotei don't make me cry hahahah
Jun 29 09:59:34 <Tapper> Can you tell me more?
Jun 29 10:00:53 <Tapper> If the wifi is ded I will just use it as a router.
Jun 29 10:00:55 <DonkeyHotei> hmm, the photo on the wiki shows them as U.FL
Jun 29 10:01:07 <DonkeyHotei> and it shows where the wires go
Jun 29 10:02:10 <DonkeyHotei> each wire is a different color in that photo
Jun 29 10:02:49 <Tapper> the cable has a small flat blob on the end with a ruff side that fiels like it could have a very small thred on it
Jun 29 10:03:07 <ldir> I thought it had a booting issue as well ?
Jun 29 10:03:30 <Tapper> Yeah I messed up the cable when trying to open it up for ttl
Jun 29 10:03:39 <DonkeyHotei> Tapper: U.FL connectors are not threaded
Jun 29 10:04:14 <Tapper> I don't know that it is threded but
Jun 29 10:04:25 <ldir> Tapper: what you describe could be a small connector on the end, likely a U.FL
Jun 29 10:04:30 <Tapper> I have never felt a ufl so...
Jun 29 10:04:53 <ldir> they're tiny enough for us sighted people :-)
Jun 29 10:04:53 <Tapper> OK that would be good.
Jun 29 10:04:55 <DonkeyHotei> the serial connector would already have pins, but smaller pins than most devices
Jun 29 10:05:26 <DonkeyHotei> ldir: are you looking at the board photo?
Jun 29 10:05:31 <Tapper> Yeah I found the serial connector after macking the cable come away from the board.
Jun 29 10:05:35 <ldir> DonkeyHotei: which is why I've ordered some 6 pin jsc tails.
Jun 29 10:05:54 <Tapper> I did not even have to remove the top plate of the case lol
Jun 29 10:06:38 <Monkeh> JST
Jun 29 10:06:48 <Tapper> I thorght that the serial connector was at the back of the router and not the frunt I onley found it after playing a youtube vid
Jun 29 10:07:10 <Tapper> the wrt3200acm has some nice heat sinks on tho.
Jun 29 10:07:57 <Borromini> don't some of those models have a fan as well?
Jun 29 10:08:15 <Tapper> I think that was the wrt1900ac v2
Jun 29 10:08:29 <Tapper> no sorry the v1
Jun 29 10:08:38 <Tapper> I have the v2 and there is no fan
Jun 29 10:09:49 <ldir> Monkeh: indeed jst - keep on doing that!
Jun 29 10:10:01 <Tapper> It's really nice hard wair it's just a shame  about the wifi drivers. They could of killed the router market if the software had bin better.
Jun 29 10:11:14 <Borromini> with 200 EUR devices? don't think so :P
Jun 29 10:11:33 <Tapper> The rep of the wrt54g you can still sell them on ebay even now
Jun 29 10:11:47 <ldir> https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07KF5YBBJ/ref=pe_3187911_185740111_TE_item
Jun 29 10:11:48 <KanjiMonster> looking at the fcc internal photos, all antennas use u.fl connectors. in experience these are a bit annoying to reconnect though
Jun 29 10:11:59 <Tapper> the wrt3200acm could of bin the next mager router
Jun 29 10:12:19 <Tapper> KanjiMonster thanks
Jun 29 10:12:38 <Tapper> that is good to know
Jun 29 10:13:07 <Monkeh> ldir: If I'd known you needed some I would've made some up and sent them for the cost of a packet :)
Jun 29 10:14:10 <ldir> Monkeh: my original plan was to solder to the rear of the board/pins, but decided the princely sum of £3 would safe a LOT of kerfuffle.
Jun 29 10:14:16 <Tapper> You know what this is why I love you guise!
Jun 29 10:14:35 <Tapper> brb
Jun 29 10:15:53 <ldir> Monkeh: you may be in a better position to rescue Tapper's wrt3200acm
Jun 29 10:16:34 <Monkeh> I still have a heap of my own to rescue and/or port :P
Jun 29 10:17:28 <ldir> lol
Jun 29 10:19:39 <KanjiMonster> Tapper: in my experience these disconnect easily, so it's quite unlikely you broke something. If you can tell which antenna it was you disconnected, I can try to describe where it goes
Jun 29 10:22:41 <ldir> Tapper: and possibly employ the use of a child's small hands :-)
Jun 29 10:26:06 <Borromini> child labour!
Jun 29 10:26:27 <Monkeh> The best kind
Jun 29 10:26:33 <Borromini> hehehe
Jun 29 10:28:58 <KanjiMonster> at least those u.fl connectors give a very satisfying click when they connect
Jun 29 10:58:51 <DonkeyHotei> KanjiMonster: take a look at the photo on the wiki
Jun 29 11:07:41 <Tapper> I am back people. Even tho I have 5 kids and I do trust at lest one of them to try and put the cable back it would still leve me with a device that will not boot. As it's packaged up and rady to go I will just put all my trust in ldir.
Jun 29 11:08:19 <Tapper> If you cant get the cable back ldir I will have a go when it comes back.
Jun 29 11:08:55 <Tapper> My 12 year old boy Kalub would love to have a go. I think!
Jun 29 11:09:45 <Tapper> In other news I am hot. I am glad im not in france!
Jun 29 11:10:27 <Borromini> what temps are you expecting around there?
Jun 29 11:10:54 <Borromini> we're expected to hit 32° C today
Jun 29 11:12:26 <KanjiMonster> and up to 39 tomorrow >_<;;
Jun 29 11:12:59 <Tapper> Where I am i think it will be about 30
Jun 29 11:13:35 <Tapper> I know it's not that bad but where I live there is no ac and the houses hold so mutch heat it is stupid
Jun 29 11:16:23 <DonkeyHotei> no ac here either, and the houses have to hold that much heat to cut heating costs
Jun 29 11:16:26 <KanjiMonster> similar here in germany, ac:s are also very uncommon, as there haven't been a need for them so in the last decades
Jun 29 11:17:11 <Borromini> KanjiMonster: ouch. we're dropping to 25 tomorrow.
Jun 29 11:17:40 <Borromini> i don't mind hot during the day, as long as it cools off enough to sleep comfortably
Jun 29 11:18:18 <DonkeyHotei> high temp here is 16 for the next 3 days
Jun 29 11:18:52 <KanjiMonster> Borromini: where are you? thought you were in berlin as well
Jun 29 11:20:25 <Borromini> no in belgium (antwerp)
Jun 29 11:22:19 <KanjiMonster> oh, I see - must have misread something from you
Jun 29 11:23:37 <KanjiMonster> here in berlin it'll be really hot again tomorrow (had the fun at wednesday already), but after that it is supposed to cool off a bit (to about 25~28 for the next week)
Jun 29 11:24:25 <Tapper> it was 18 list nite
Jun 29 11:24:34 <Tapper> Horable
Jun 29 11:25:03 <Tapper> At lest I get to get drunk later! lol
Jun 29 11:25:33 <Tapper> My famley are comming around for beer and chilli. I made a big pot.
Jun 29 11:28:21 <Borromini> KanjiMonster: yeah berlin is lots of sand plains from what i understood and little greenery or water
Jun 29 11:28:31 <Borromini> (bigger brandenburg i mean)
Jun 29 11:28:37 <Borromini> poor soil
Jun 29 11:28:56 <Borromini> the sandier parts of belgium always bear the brunt of summer as well here
Jun 29 15:29:23 <angelsl> o, the mt7615 driver doesn't support dfs yet
Jun 29 15:29:37 <angelsl> no wonder i've been having issues with 5GHz
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