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Feb 22 08:28:48 <stintel> ynezz: found in my IRC logs that I had the ppp issue on x86/64. I'll test again, with your patch to activate PIE ASLR
Feb 22 08:32:53 <stintel> I just pushed lldpd 1.0.5 to master. 19.07 is on 1.0.3. what was the policy again? can we update patch versions or do we only backport security fixes ?
Feb 22 08:51:44 <stintel> ynezz: unfortunately it's still broken
Feb 22 10:16:46 <russell--> why is CONFIG_ISDN=y?
Feb 22 10:18:11 <russell--> "Innovations Subscribers Don't Need"
Feb 22 10:18:52 <stintel> russell--: it's a bool
Feb 22 10:19:10 <stintel> so it's required to have it y to support the other isdn kmod packages
Feb 22 10:19:19 <stintel> iiuc
Feb 22 10:19:28 <stintel> maybe not
Feb 22 10:21:34 <russell--> it seems to be on in generic, and turned off in many targets, but not (for example) ath79
Feb 22 10:23:18 <pkgadd> there aren't too many uses for it left
Feb 22 10:25:27 <pkgadd> the only real ones I could imagine (local ISDN deployments with existing ISDN phones) probably have no use for CONFIG_ISDN anyways, as those typically used out-of-tree mISDN drivers
Feb 22 10:26:41 <pkgadd> and about ath79 in particular, I can't really imaging any ath79 SOC with ISDN hardware attached (lantiq, yes - x86, expensive, but possible)
Feb 22 10:27:55 <russell--> it's turned off for all the lantiq targets
Feb 22 10:28:20 <russell--> (says git grep ISDN)
Feb 22 10:28:53 <pkgadd> it's probably time to disable it globally - and let those targets that really have a use for it override the setting
Feb 22 10:29:28 <pkgadd> and the set of targets which benefit from that is probably zero by now
Feb 22 10:29:33 <russell--> i was fishing around in the kernel config for anything that might save a little space and happened to notice it
Feb 22 10:31:51 <pkgadd> I kind of miss ISDN though, it being out-of-band of my internet access was nice (no problems with others in the house useing the phone, while I was experimenting with my router)
Feb 22 10:32:31 <russell--> i did manage to squeeze out a whopping 16k between that, USB_SUPPORT and SWCONFIG_LEDS (not sure what was actually responsible)
Feb 22 10:32:34 <stintel> I still have an USB ISDN adapter somewhere
Feb 22 10:35:09 <pkgadd> two ISDN pbxes somewhere in a drawer, probably a dozen ISDN PCI cards, some with ADSL support, some without - and one full size ISA ISDN card
Feb 22 10:35:50 <stintel> ah a PCI ADSL interface I have somewhere as well
Feb 22 10:36:21 <stintel> most likely in a "Real Useful Box" in my parent's attic
Feb 22 10:36:42 <stintel> how times have changed
Feb 22 10:37:18 <pkgadd> yeah, I haven't really managed to throw them away yet. despite being on VoIP (VDSL2) since summer 2017 - and now going to ftth in a few weeks
Feb 22 10:37:50 <stintel> I'm on GPON since I move from .be to .bg in 2015
Feb 22 10:38:21 <stintel> my cable connection in Belgium had higher downstream, but upstream was ridiculous. it was 240/20 iirc
Feb 22 10:38:30 <pkgadd> the fibre it leaning against the house wall since last week, now it just needs to get inside and hooked up
Feb 22 10:38:32 <stintel> here 200/120 for 1/3th the price
Feb 22 10:38:38 <stintel> nice!
Feb 22 10:38:49 <stintel> glad to see this becoming more common
Feb 22 10:40:38 <pkgadd> I don't really need the speed (going from 100/40 MBit/s to 400/200 MBit/s, the higher tiers are just too expensive for my needs), but I couldn't let the offer pass (now, during the introduction, the setup fees are waived (750 EUR), plus other time limited price reductions) - sadly cgNAT (but at least a semi-static IPv6 prefix)
Feb 22 10:40:50 <stintel> argh. something seems to enable postgres build. wtf
Feb 22 10:42:17 <stintel> should have never run feeds/install -a
Feb 22 10:42:55 <stintel> oh bummer, cgNAT would be a showstopper for me
Feb 22 10:43:32 <pkgadd> yeah, it was a hard decision that took me months to take
Feb 22 10:43:42 <Dagger> gonna have to get used to it. v4 isn't big enough for everybody to avoid it forever
Feb 22 10:44:18 <pkgadd> and I'm definitely not happy about it
Feb 22 10:45:37 <Dagger> in my case, it helps that I have an L2TP tunnel to A&A with a v4-/27 on it
Feb 22 10:46:18 <guifipedro[m]> I would like to change the title https://bugs.openwrt.org/index.php?do=details&task_id=2848 because it only applies for devices with internal switch
Feb 22 10:49:03 <f00b4r0> jow: ping?
Feb 22 11:03:16 <RobertP> I am trying to add OpenWRT support for Asus RT-AC5300 (bcm53xx based) - could anyone help me with a DTS? I am relatively new to OpenWRT and not sure where to get most of its content ... I do own this router, it is connected via serial port, etc
Feb 22 11:25:38 <owrt-snap-builds> build #243 of x86/legacy is complete: Exception [exception rmtmp df ccachestat]  Build details are at http://buildbot.openwrt.org/master/images/builders/x86%2Flegacy/builds/243  blamelist: Stijn Tintel <stijn@linux-ipv6.be>, Petr ?tetiar <ynezz@true.cz>, David Bauer <mail@david-bauer.net>, Daniel Golle <daniel@makrotopia.org>, Adrian Schmutzler
Feb 22 11:25:38 <owrt-snap-builds> <freifunk@adrianschmutzler.de>, DENG Qingfang <dengqf6@mail2.sysu.edu.cn>, Felix Fietkau <nbd@nbd.name>, Daniel Engberg <daniel.engberg.lists@pyret.net>
Feb 22 11:26:28 <f00b4r0> (that's me - host reboot)
Feb 22 14:09:46 <Hauke> xback: ping
Feb 22 16:23:02 <jow> f00b4r0: pong
Feb 22 16:23:44 <f00b4r0> jow: nvm, I wanted to ask to pause the buildbot before I reboot the machine but I did it anyway ;)
Feb 22 16:23:56 <jow> ah okay. sure, thats fine :)
Feb 23 01:31:23 <ssn> any way to set the nofile limits for procd globally instead of per package/service?
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