**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 24 02:59:57 2007
Sep 24 13:32:32 <chouimat> morning
Sep 24 13:46:25 <bipolar> good morning chouimat, all
Sep 24 13:54:42 <torarne> morning!
Sep 24 15:36:23 <jott> hello
Sep 24 15:37:28 <chouimat> hi
Sep 24 15:37:55 <Andy80> hi :)
Sep 24 15:41:34 <goxboxlive> hi all
Sep 24 15:41:55 <goxboxlive> I had phone working HTC Universal yetserday with Qtopia-4.3.0
Sep 24 15:42:05 <torarne> nice :D
Sep 24 15:43:11 <goxboxlive> jott: Have you ever had this bug with Helix? http://www.qtopia.net/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=387&forum=2
Sep 24 15:43:38 <goxboxlive> hi torarne : I still have the same problem with sound :-( .
Sep 24 15:45:37 <torarne> the atomic stuff?
Sep 24 15:48:26 <goxboxlive> yes
Sep 24 15:48:44 <jott> well i have also trouble playing mp3s..
Sep 24 15:48:57 <jott> but i did not have this atomic stuff..
Sep 24 15:49:23 <jott> have you looked at the platform definitions for the greenphone provided with the qtopia source tree?
Sep 24 15:49:33 <jott> maybe something special in there ;)
Sep 24 15:49:42 <goxboxlive> yes it's strange. BabelO has the same problem
Sep 24 15:50:20 <torarne> i remember that after compiling helix in the 4.2.1 tree i had to copy some of the so-files over, but not all of them
Sep 24 15:50:32 <torarne> if i had too few, or too many, it wouldnt work
Sep 24 15:51:09 <goxboxlive> yes i know, you have told me that. I tried to do the same but it didnt help. But all of my codecs where installed.
Sep 24 15:51:50 <goxboxlive> I also tried to build qtopia for the Fic phone wich should have the atomic stuff in the source, but same problem.
Sep 24 15:51:54 <torarne> hmm, not sure what's wrong then. when i have time ill try to compile helix for 4.3 greenphone
Sep 24 15:52:03 <goxboxlive> good
Sep 24 15:53:17 <jott> i wonder if someone managed to get a working cvs snapshot of helix :)
Sep 24 15:53:56 <goxboxlive> havent heard of any
Sep 24 15:54:00 <jott> maybe some issues are fixed
Sep 24 15:55:39 <torarne> which helix source did you get for the 4.3 snapshot?
Sep 24 15:56:27 <goxboxlive> jott: i builded the snapshot version of today, but it had the same helix problem. So i used your hack with the old helix source.
Sep 24 15:57:31 <jott> hm yeah.. i just tried an mp3 again and watched the log this time: http://pastebin.ca/709327 yieks
Sep 24 15:59:08 <jott> yeah well there should be a new snapshot of the helix dna client source..  :/
Sep 24 15:59:28 <jott> or one has to fight with a manual cvs snapshot ;)
Sep 24 16:00:15 <jott> i just gave it a short try but did not had the leisure to make it working
Sep 24 16:00:49 <chouimat> hmmm nothing like oom while rebuilding a computer
Sep 24 16:01:58 <jott> ha and this signal 2 catch via lids is nuts for console application ;)
Sep 24 16:02:06 <torarne> did you use "Helix DNA Client for Qtopia 4.2.1" ?
Sep 24 16:02:10 <jott> i can't stop the tail output
Sep 24 16:02:23 <jott> yes..
Sep 24 16:02:39 <jott> with the helix/ dir from the qtopia 4.2.x  source
Sep 24 16:02:46 <jott> not the one from 4.3
Sep 24 16:03:09 <jott> at least it compiles this way - but still does not seem to work
Sep 24 16:03:27 * chouimat is still waiting for his replacement device :(
Sep 24 16:03:59 <jott> :( ..
Sep 24 16:04:15 <jott> chouimat: is it on the road?
Sep 24 16:05:08 <chouimat> jott: no clue
Sep 24 16:32:56 <jott> my first webkit try: http://sse2.net/webkit01.png :)
Sep 24 16:35:09 <torarne> cool :D
Sep 24 16:54:55 <torarne> um, do i have a signed Helix license agreement that is signed by me and RealNetworks? :)
Sep 24 16:55:22 <torarne> is that part of the whole EULA stuff that I go through when downloading the helix sources?
Sep 24 16:56:30 <torarne> Type 'yes' if you have a Helix license agreement that is signed by you and RealNetworks.
Sep 24 16:56:30 <torarne> Type 'no' if you do NOT have a Helix license agreement that is signed by you and RealNetworks.
Sep 24 17:01:18 <BabelO> hi
Sep 24 17:01:58 <torarne> BabelO: did you compile helix?
Sep 24 17:04:06 <BabelO> torarne: yes for 4.3.0
Sep 24 17:04:23 <BabelO> torarne: but i use same folder as for 4.2.4 version of qtopia
Sep 24 17:04:27 <torarne> what's up with that "Helix license agreement that is signed by you and RealNetworks" ?
Sep 24 17:04:30 <torarne> yes or no ? :)
Sep 24 17:05:02 <BabelO> ehe eh yes at the moment
Sep 24 17:05:12 <torarne> k :)
Sep 24 17:07:47 <jott> yeah they have my bugmenot signature ;)
Sep 24 17:07:56 <torarne> :)
Sep 24 17:08:39 <torarne> how does the 4.3 helix sources + helix 4.2.1 client fail?
Sep 24 17:08:58 <jott> they changed the build system..
Sep 24 17:09:01 <jott> at least partly ..
Sep 24 17:09:08 <jott> like renaming build -> build.py
Sep 24 17:09:14 <jott> maybe other changes.. ;)
Sep 24 17:09:27 <torarne> ah, TT did?
Sep 24 17:09:36 <jott> no.. helix did
Sep 24 17:09:39 <jott> and tt adapted
Sep 24 17:09:45 <torarne> i see
Sep 24 17:09:58 <torarne> what about helix from cvs? anyone tried that with 4.3 sources?
Sep 24 17:10:18 <jott> i tried but it did fail.. well you can give it a shot..
Sep 24 17:10:29 <jott> it's probably something more or less easy to fix
Sep 24 17:11:31 <jott> (there is a script that does the actual cvs checkout and this seems to be incombatible with the qtopia4.3 .pro)
Sep 24 17:11:46 <jott> i assume you just have to do the checkout right and it will work
Sep 24 17:12:17 <jott> maybe you can protocol your actions and publish them if it works ;)
Sep 24 17:12:42 <torarne> i will :) if i get it to work that is :P
Sep 24 17:13:10 <jott> you need to upload a ssh public key to use the cvs..
Sep 24 17:13:21 <jott> and wait a bit until it is propaged to the server..
Sep 24 17:13:23 <torarne> k
Sep 24 17:13:25 <jott> (you do a webupload)
Sep 24 17:15:05 <torarne> hmm, "ERROR: You requested -dbus but it was disabled."
Sep 24 17:16:08 <jott> -dbuspath has to match your installation ;)
Sep 24 17:20:03 <BabelO> torarne yes need to match your installation and it check for usr/lib/pkgconfig/dbus-1.pc to know if it is correct dbus version
Sep 24 17:21:05 <torarne> this is the 4.2.1 SDK
Sep 24 17:23:13 <jott> no difference..
Sep 24 17:23:18 <jott> but why do you want to build 4.2.1? ;)
Sep 24 17:23:22 <jott> ah
Sep 24 17:23:23 <jott> ok
Sep 24 17:23:27 <jott> you build within the sdk?
Sep 24 17:23:31 <torarne> yepp
Sep 24 17:24:17 <jott> actually using -device greenphone should take care of the path, i suppose
Sep 24 17:24:25 <torarne> is ut /usr/share on the SDK?
Sep 24 17:24:38 <torarne> i'm using -device greenphone
Sep 24 17:25:44 <jott> well the target based stuff should be in /opt/toolchains/greenphone/gcc-4.1.1-glibc-2.3.6/arm-linux/arm-linux/
Sep 24 17:26:53 <jott> (so that should be your -dbuspath i guess)
Sep 24 17:28:07 <jott> thats copied from the 4.2.4 sdk..
Sep 24 17:28:25 <jott> (to be more precise its in /usr/local/arm-linux/....)
Sep 24 17:30:45 <torarne> can't find any dbus-related stuff in /usr/local/arm-linux/...
Sep 24 17:30:56 <torarne> im probably too tired or stoopid to figure it out ;)
Sep 24 17:31:51 <jott> you have no /usr/local/arm-linux/arm-linux/include/dbus-1.0 ?!
Sep 24 17:33:31 <torarne> nope :/
Sep 24 17:35:09 <jott> dunno if it's due to the 4.2.1 version can't remember?! 4.2.4 is the most recent sdk..
Sep 24 17:35:17 <torarne> k, ill get that then .)
Sep 24 17:35:18 <torarne> :)
Sep 25 01:01:01 <bipolar> ljp: ping
Sep 25 01:05:51 <ljp> pong
Sep 25 01:05:54 <ljp> hmm
Sep 25 01:08:49 <pga-mac> hmm.... anybody know of a way to overlay 1.6 on top of 1.5.23?
Sep 25 01:12:41 <pga-mac> uuugh i hate sharp and the corprate execs that killed the zaurus
Sep 25 01:12:53 <pga-mac> they made 1.5 suck
Sep 25 01:28:51 <g1powermac_PB> pga-mac: don't make me get started about the quality of their printers/copiers. . . .
Sep 25 01:29:17 <g1powermac_PB> we're on like the sixth replacement one. . .
Sep 25 01:33:55 <bipolar> It's a shame. the Zaurus line had such potential
Sep 25 01:34:07 <bipolar> I really loved my 5500
Sep 25 01:42:23 <pga-mac> i still use my 5500
Sep 25 01:42:40 <pga-mac> i did a youTooobe vid on how to use SCP with the zaurii
Sep 25 01:43:10 <ljp> my 5000d and plenty of 5500 are just gathering dust
Sep 25 01:43:23 <pga-mac> its a pity
Sep 25 01:43:41 <pga-mac> why dont we do a beowolf cluster with a bunch of unused zaurii
Sep 25 01:45:49 <pga-mac> lie 30000 ARM processors taking like 3 seconds a cycle
Sep 25 01:46:03 <ljp> :)
Sep 25 01:46:20 <pga-mac> you wouldnt HAPPEN to know who esr is?
Sep 25 01:46:27 <pga-mac> Eric S Raymond
Sep 25 01:46:40 * chouimat|busy 's 5000d is dead ... well the battery is 
Sep 25 01:46:53 <pga-mac> send it to me... i need another one
Sep 25 01:47:15 <chouimat|busy> I will probabky order another battery one day
Sep 25 01:47:28 <pga-mac> you can get the sync cables and they carge em
Sep 25 01:47:40 <chouimat|busy> the battery exploded ;)
Sep 25 01:47:45 <pga-mac> Oh Snap!
Sep 25 01:48:09 <pga-mac> i want a c3000 so badly
Sep 25 01:48:18 <pga-mac> full 640x480 is AWESOME
Sep 25 01:49:43 <pga-mac> i tried the Hybrid rom for the 5x00 series and it just wasnt up to par
Sep 25 01:53:29 <bipolar> hiya ljp
Sep 25 01:54:34 <bipolar> have you had time to hack together something for the n800?
Sep 25 02:46:30 <izico> hi,everybody
Sep 25 02:46:41 <izico> my greenphone don't recharge now
Sep 25 02:47:28 <izico> it seems that the USB mini socket don't contact well with the USB cable now
Sep 25 02:47:39 <izico> have you encountered this problem?
Sep 25 02:49:11 <izico> The 5 copper contact on mini USB socket don't protrude a lot
Sep 25 02:49:23 <izico> anybody here?
Sep 25 02:54:29 <bipolar_> Yep
Sep 25 02:54:36 <izico> hi
Sep 25 02:54:37 <bipolar_> I don't have a greenphone though :)
Sep 25 02:54:51 <izico> this room is dead quiet
Sep 25 02:55:04 <bipolar_> right now it seems so
Sep 25 02:56:05 <izico> you mean that it'll be crowed later when the Europeans ans Americans are awake?
Sep 25 02:56:41 <bipolar_> well, I'm awake. it's 11pm here. :)
Sep 25 02:57:14 <izico> then do you know when this room is hot?
Sep 25 02:57:22 <izico> I'll come then
Sep 25 02:57:51 <bipolar_> seems to get noisier around 3-8pm my time. but it varies.
Sep 25 02:58:26 <izico> 3-8 pm New York time?
Sep 25 02:58:32 <bipolar_> yeah
Sep 25 02:58:42 <izico> ok,I'll come then
Sep 25 02:58:45 <izico> thanks a lot
Sep 25 02:58:48 <bipolar_> np
Sep 25 02:59:29 <izico> greenphone hardware is not very good
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