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Oct 02 07:45:15 <BabelO_> ljp: for htc-linux website, there is a wiki  http://www.google.fr/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=2&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.xda-developers.com%2F&ei=mfMBR83dEZK2wQGn0tkV&usg=AFQjCNExe-CIvXIFOBKlcnQzXJF5gvENWA&sig2=UQWeWzmkUhA91c0ii0PGfA and also some web pages on wiki at http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/SupportedHandheldSummary
Oct 02 11:59:53 <jorgenpt> Indeed.
Oct 02 12:00:21 <jorgenpt> Is there anything except that at http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.3/tut-index.html that can be read by someone with no prior Qt-experience, that wants to do Qtopia development?
Oct 02 12:29:34 <jorgenpt> Does anyone know the status of GPRS on the Neo1973/Qtopia?
Oct 02 12:36:07 <jorgenpt> ScaredyCat: You around?
Oct 02 12:36:21 <ScaredyCat> yes...
Oct 02 12:36:33 <jorgenpt> What's the status on bt and audio on your 1001 snapshot?
Oct 02 12:36:48 <ScaredyCat> bt seems broken...
Oct 02 12:37:12 <ScaredyCat> audio is 'fixed' by me using gsmhandset.state for asound.state..
Oct 02 12:37:33 <ScaredyCat> I'm trying to build the latest snapshot which apparently fixes audio proper
Oct 02 12:37:41 <ScaredyCat> sadly it's not building
Oct 02 12:39:23 <jorgenpt> Oh, ok
Oct 02 12:41:22 <ScaredyCat> I'll try and sort it and let ou know when it's ready
Oct 02 12:41:55 <jorgenpt> Sounds great
Oct 02 12:42:08 <jorgenpt> Have any experience with GPRS, or know anyone who has? (.. on Qtopia / Neo)
Oct 02 12:42:57 <ScaredyCat> I haven't tried it on qtopia... but speedevil did some stuff on the wiki...
Oct 02 12:43:14 <jorgenpt> ok
Oct 02 12:43:28 <jorgenpt> I was curious specifically on the Qtopia, since it has a GUI to configure GPR
Oct 02 12:43:29 <jorgenpt> GPRS
Oct 02 12:43:32 <ScaredyCat> although since gsmd is not working properly under OM I'm not sure there's any point at attempting it there
Oct 02 12:44:08 <ScaredyCat> yes, I just haven't tried it on qtopia... there's o browser for me to test, I suppose I could try email  :)
Oct 02 12:44:43 <jorgenpt> Ah, right. :-)
Oct 02 12:45:13 <jorgenpt> I'm downloading the snapshot of the flash & kernel now
Oct 02 12:46:54 <ScaredyCat> my 1001 works...
Oct 02 12:47:44 <ScaredyCat> but this build is supposed to fix audio properly... ie ringtone + handset stuff fixed
Oct 02 12:49:49 <jorgenpt> Well, yes, I'm fetching the 1002 by trolltech
Oct 02 12:50:03 <jorgenpt> I'll reflash to yours when you've got it. :-)
Oct 02 12:58:59 <goxboxlive> ljp: isent Qtopia compatible with arm-cross-gcc-4.2.1?
Oct 02 13:08:09 <jorgenpt> wtf is happening? I'm using the virtual keyboard to enter text in "create account" for email
Oct 02 13:08:50 <jorgenpt> And suddenly the screen "blanks" (black) with a white line in the upper left, then the "loading" icon shows up, and after a while it returns me to the Main view, where it at first says "No network", then returns to my network.
Oct 02 13:42:51 <jorgenpt> Ah, ScaredyCat: * no modem mux (no gprs)
Oct 02 13:42:59 <jorgenpt> (under known issues on the ml-post by ljp)
Oct 02 14:12:09 <chouimat> morning
Oct 02 14:16:36 <jorgenpt> Mornin'
Oct 02 15:06:15 <ScaredyCat> jorgenpt: image is building now....
Oct 02 15:06:36 <ScaredyCat> there were some changes that caused a full rebuild :/
Oct 02 16:23:18 <jorgenpt> Hm, ScaredyCat: Having issues with "ghosting" of the "key" for unlock?
Oct 02 16:23:20 <jorgenpt> In 1002
Oct 02 16:23:25 <jorgenpt> Wasn't like that with 0930
Oct 02 16:26:46 <ScaredyCat> mm.. can't test still building :'(
Oct 02 17:11:06 <Phoix> hey
Oct 02 17:11:39 <Phoix> anyone have any qtopia software feed addresses? or a website that lists some?
Oct 02 17:24:15 <j0tt> Phoix: there are none i know of yet (speaking of qtopia 4)
Oct 02 17:30:13 <chouimat|lunch> zoom zoom
Oct 02 17:36:42 * j0tt throws a QGraphicsView at chouimat|bored 
Oct 02 17:38:03 <chouimat|bored> jott: I think a nap would be nice too 
Oct 02 17:38:40 <jott> or a coffee ;)
Oct 02 17:38:56 <chouimat|bored> that too
Oct 02 17:39:51 <chouimat|bored> jott: anyway only 1h21 minutes to go before I can go on my balcony ...  lot of hot women going to get their kids at school :)
Oct 02 17:40:14 <jott> haha ;) you are really bored ;)
Oct 02 17:40:53 <jott> maybe gather some motivation to do something productive ;)
Oct 02 17:46:21 <goxboxlive> jott any news about helix?
Oct 02 17:46:31 <jott> none that i know of :/
Oct 02 17:46:42 <goxboxlive> hmm
Oct 02 17:46:57 <jott> well you still could try to do a proper cvs checkout
Oct 02 17:47:00 <goxboxlive> jott is your system sounds working ?
Oct 02 17:47:11 <goxboxlive> jott it seems so complicated
Oct 02 17:47:17 <jott> yes :(
Oct 02 17:47:28 <jott> no i have no sound atm
Oct 02 17:47:56 <jott> but it can't be that hard to get it right ;p
Oct 02 17:48:25 <jorgenpt> Hm. ljp, shutdown device and restart device doesn't work on the 2. oct snapshot, (it counts down the percentages, then just hangs on the "shutdown" menu) - and I get "ghosting" from the key on the "unlock" screen. (latter is only a cosmetic annoyance, the former is pretty bad - results in having to remove the battery to shut down9
Oct 02 17:49:13 <goxboxlive> We just dont have sound on our HTC devices with Qtopia 4.2.x. We have never made it working (babelO managed it once, but he doesnt remember how he did it :-) )
Oct 02 17:49:30 <jorgenpt> goxboxlive: btw, I get system sounds in the 2. oct snapshot (at least plays a ringtone when you call it)
Oct 02 17:49:56 <goxboxlive> jorgenpt: ok, i'll test calling my self too
Oct 02 17:52:42 <goxboxlive> hmm no the only thing that works for me when i make a call to myslf is the vibration (it's hardcoded).
Oct 02 17:53:09 <jorgenpt> That's the 2. oct. snapshot?
Oct 02 17:53:26 <goxboxlive> yes
Oct 02 17:53:30 <jorgenpt> It took about a second after the call-in started before it started ringing
Oct 02 17:53:30 <jott> i never use ringtones anyway.. just vibration ;)
Oct 02 17:53:37 <jorgenpt> But I didn't do anything to trigger it.
Oct 02 17:53:39 <jorgenpt> jott: Ditto
Oct 02 17:53:41 <goxboxlive> it has been the same since 4.3.0 where released
Oct 02 17:54:30 <ljp> ringtones should be fixed for neo
Oct 02 17:55:08 <goxboxlive> hi ljp 
Oct 02 17:55:30 <goxboxlive> I am still fighting with making sounds work
Oct 02 17:56:25 <ljp> it seems someone has broken gss
Oct 02 17:57:02 <goxboxlive> i dont have gss
Oct 02 18:03:20 <ljp> qss
Oct 02 18:03:45 <ljp> its named mediaserver if no mediaengine is found
Oct 02 18:03:47 <goxboxlive> ljp: i donthave that either
Oct 02 18:03:57 <goxboxlive> i have that
Oct 02 18:06:33 <goxboxlive> ljp: isent my mediangine "helix" ? I have that compiled in, why isent it finding it?
Oct 02 18:06:45 <goxboxlive> s/finding/locating/
Oct 02 18:09:43 <ljp> the helix source package at helixcommunity wont work with 4.3.
Oct 02 18:09:50 <ljp> is this on a neo?
Oct 02 18:10:07 <goxboxlive> ljp: no, it's on universal
Oct 02 18:10:20 <goxboxlive> and also Magician and Blueangel
Oct 02 18:11:30 <goxboxlive> We didnt have it working with 4.2 either.
Oct 02 18:13:12 <ljp> if helix isnt found it shopuld default to 'qss', but it seems broken right now
Oct 02 18:13:34 <goxboxlive> ok
Oct 02 18:15:46 <jott> ljp: do you know the status of helix for 4.3? like is helixcommunity or tt working on a snapshot?
Oct 02 18:16:11 <ljp> yes
Oct 02 18:19:02 <jott> any known deadline set? ;)
Oct 02 18:19:35 <ljp> i will try to get the release manager to have it out by 4.3
Oct 02 18:21:57 <goxboxlive> when is 4.3 planned to be released?
Oct 02 18:43:03 <ljp> soon
Oct 02 18:43:40 * chouimat try to relax ... for his interview in 2 days
Oct 02 20:26:47 <dhfriedman> hello
Oct 02 20:26:52 <dhfriedman> where do i buy a greenphone?
Oct 02 20:30:07 <dhfriedman> nm it costs almost 1k, fuck that
Oct 02 20:31:37 <ljp> heh
Oct 02 20:31:49 <ljp> doesnt cost that much
Oct 02 20:32:42 <chouimat> hehe
Oct 02 20:38:37 <ScaredyCat> lol
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