**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Oct 17 02:59:56 2007
Oct 17 08:25:11 <amcewen_> morning
Oct 17 08:31:37 <goxboxlive> amcewen_:  good morning
Oct 17 14:01:23 <chouimat> morning
Oct 17 17:25:42 <BabelO> hi
Oct 17 17:26:16 <goxboxlive> hi BabelO 
Oct 17 19:19:56 <BabelO> hello
Oct 17 19:20:07 <BabelO> little question for a designer specialist
Oct 17 19:20:14 <BabelO> can anyone answer me ?
Oct 17 19:20:51 <goxboxlive> That should be me
Oct 17 19:20:53 <goxboxlive> :-)
Oct 17 19:21:23 <BabelO> goxboxlive: problem with qtdesigner and Vertical layout ;)
Oct 17 19:21:51 <goxboxlive> ok, are you working on the UI now BabelO ?
Oct 17 19:21:58 <BabelO> yes
Oct 17 19:22:09 <goxboxlive> realy looking forward to test it
Oct 17 20:30:40 <bipolar> ljp: I see you rekindled the old gpl vs. lgpl "discussion" in #openmoko :D
Oct 17 20:31:00 * ScaredyCat prods ljp
Oct 17 21:11:42 <ljp> :)
Oct 17 21:12:07 * ljp doesnt like lgpl
Oct 17 21:30:36 <ScaredyCat> I thought the audio switching wasn't possible atm ?
Oct 17 21:34:18 * ScaredyCat blames ljp anyway
Oct 17 21:43:20 <BabelO> ljp: hi, any modem news ? :( please
Oct 17 21:43:28 <ljp> if you have helix or gstreamer support it is.
Oct 17 21:43:46 <ljp> BabelO: none yet
Oct 17 21:44:13 <BabelO> ljp: ok
Oct 17 21:44:40 <BabelO> ljp: i ve played with QWizardPage, but no luck so now it is pure designer
Oct 17 21:44:44 <ljp> ScaredyCat: i am following up a bug report about audiostate switching with no mediaengines
Oct 17 21:45:16 <ljp> BabelO: I think qwizard is configured out for Qtopia phone
Oct 17 21:45:44 <ScaredyCat> ljp: good... no helix is going to be a bit of an issue really
Oct 17 21:46:23 <ScaredyCat> afaik gstreamer was't building properly with qtopia, from the snapshots
Oct 17 21:47:09 <ljp> ya, I just recently got gstreamer build working. will update the .bb
Oct 17 21:47:28 <ljp> but performance is the issue with gstreamer
Oct 17 21:48:23 <ScaredyCat> :(
Oct 17 21:48:27 <ljp> should be just adding export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=$TOOLCHAIN/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/lib/pkgconfig to devices/ficgta01/environment
Oct 17 21:48:47 <ljp> or doing something like that somewhere
Oct 17 21:49:38 <ScaredyCat> isn't it going to be a more long term issue though?
Oct 17 21:49:49 <ljp> and making sure there are gstreamer stuff in the pkgconfig
Oct 17 21:50:47 <ScaredyCat> "Note: For Qtopia 4.1 and 4.2, Helix is the only supported multimedia engine. "
Oct 17 21:51:00 <ScaredyCat> .. so 4.3.... is..... 
Oct 17 21:51:10 * ScaredyCat looks behind door #1
Oct 17 21:51:54 <bipolar> ljp: I love how some projects are so loud about freedom and then they bitch about not being able to make propriatary apps.
Oct 17 21:52:45 <ScaredyCat> freedom doesn't mean price...
Oct 17 21:52:53 <bipolar> one of the things I dislike about my n800 is how closed it is
Oct 17 21:54:14 <ScaredyCat> n800 not the same as the 770  thnen ?
Oct 17 21:56:06 <bipolar> same issues.
Oct 17 21:56:17 <bipolar> things need to be worked around
Oct 17 21:56:31 <bipolar> subtle changes to some things to make them hard to work with
Oct 17 21:56:44 <bipolar> wifi driver issues
Oct 17 21:57:12 <bipolar> anyway... it's time for me to go home... ttyl!
Oct 17 21:59:47 <ljp> ScaredyCat: even without mediaengine, Qtopia can play wav ringtones
Oct 17 22:00:07 <ScaredyCat> :o
Oct 17 22:00:18 <ljp> its just that it doesnt have the support for audiostates, which I use to change the mixer with alsactl
Oct 17 22:00:27 <ljp> trying to get that changed though
Oct 17 22:00:33 <ScaredyCat> I'll lok at that tomorrow then, never seems to work for me :(
Oct 17 22:00:42 <ScaredyCat> ahh ok
Oct 17 22:00:59 <ScaredyCat> I need my beauty sleep... bb tmorrow :)
Oct 17 22:06:22 <BabelO> good afternoon chouimat :)
Oct 18 02:18:39 <crweb> I am designing for a device that outputs the GUI in NTSC.  it has no hardware scaling so because TV pixels are not square, everything is stretched.   Is there something in qtopia i can add.. like a ratio to the Y plane to compensate and make things more square/circle ?
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