**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 19 02:59:58 2007 Oct 19 08:16:55 morning all Oct 19 08:17:29 am I right in thinking that the Greenphone emulator doesn't emulate the entire phone OS? Oct 19 08:19:24 I'm playing around with putting a webserver on the phone, but I can't work out where to install it on the emulator, or find things like the trolltech_startup.sh script Oct 19 08:21:31 qvfb is just a virtual framebuffer Oct 19 08:28:56 cool, thanks. I figured it'd be something along those lines. I'd got it all running fine on the phone itself, but wanted to convince myself I could do the same (or as near as) on the emulator. Oct 19 08:38:41 hi Oct 19 08:44:39 morning BabelO Oct 19 09:16:28 ljp: any news about the modem handling for Blueangel/Magician? Did you send the mail from BabelO to your college? Oct 19 11:21:17 hi all Oct 19 11:21:32 has the greenphone a web browser preinstalled? which one? Oct 19 11:26:28 no it doesn't Oct 19 11:27:51 pmax: Is there any open source web brower available on the net for the greenphone? Oct 19 11:28:00 s/brower/browser Oct 19 11:28:14 not that I know of Oct 19 11:28:27 I see, thanks pmax. Oct 19 15:00:01 morning Oct 19 18:57:49 hey Oct 19 21:57:04 hi, what's the battery life with qtopia of Neo? Oct 19 22:00:30 The same as battery life with openmoko. Perhaps less, as more things actually work with Qtopia at present ;) Oct 19 22:01:59 mwester: so you like openmoko more than qtopia? :) Oct 19 22:03:26 Not at all - I have no favorites just yet, rather I cheer and applaud that there are enough candidates that we can have some competition. That's good. Oct 19 22:04:15 Both Qtopia and the Openmoko software run on the same kernel, so both suffer from the lack of power management in the kernel on the Neo, at present. Oct 19 22:05:00 Once that part is fixed, then perhaps we will see some competition for which software stack will better manage the peripherals and services to conserve power... Oct 19 22:05:00 mwester: i agree :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Oct 20 02:59:56 2007