**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 25 02:59:57 2007 Oct 25 07:47:44 is that more closed source atop the gpl stuff ? Oct 25 07:54:14 morning Oct 25 08:33:54 rohanpm: any status update on bug N181195 because its really annoying :( Oct 25 08:35:25 and on the contrary, why is the task traker not open/public for qtopia bugs? or why cant i see the bugs there? Oct 25 08:36:25 I'm not 100% sure but my understanding is that any bug, Qt or Qtopia, has to be explicitly marked as "public" to be public Oct 25 08:36:49 Did you get an e-mail from Daniel? Oct 25 08:37:51 It looks like it has been considered more of a feature request than a bug Oct 25 08:38:02 but it's a bug :( Oct 25 08:38:08 hi Oct 25 08:38:41 i can't see the assigned contact on incoming calls.. Oct 25 08:39:38 and if you look at the code.. it really can't work this way in a general way... Oct 25 08:42:09 I may have a closer look at it when I'm at work tomorrow Oct 25 08:42:24 thank you.. Oct 25 08:42:30 arg.. Oct 25 08:43:11 the testcase should better read ..matchNumbers.. not matchPrefix (though matchPrefix also fails ...) Oct 25 08:44:06 but anyway.. it's broken by design (tm) ;-) Oct 25 08:44:32 since matchNumbers says it returns 'increasing positive values for the "quality" of the match'... Oct 25 08:44:33 and doing my proposed fuzzy match should always work .. (compare from back to front) Oct 25 08:44:49 ...I guess it could be made to do just about anything without the docs actually lying Oct 25 08:45:10 hehe yeah.. but it's used to look-up the contact.. Oct 25 08:45:52 so the actual bug on the user side is not seeing the contact when the provider does not send the "exact same" number.. Oct 25 08:46:19 and thats because matchNumbers is broken ;) Oct 25 08:49:47 OK I lied, I'm looking at it now Oct 25 08:49:57 (so actually "splitNumbers" is broken but when comparing back to front the code will be much shorter and does not depend on splitNumber :-) Oct 25 08:50:55 great! :-) Oct 25 09:16:27 Can germany even have 5 digit area codes?? Oct 25 09:16:46 (Saal, 38223) Oct 25 09:18:35 uhm maybe.... Oct 25 09:19:04 looks like it ;) Oct 25 09:19:19 who knows maybe there is even a small village somewhere in germany with 6 digits ;) Oct 25 09:19:31 jott: german has 5 digit area codes Oct 25 09:19:35 *germany Oct 25 09:20:00 in general Oct 25 09:20:05 bigger cities have only 4 or even 3 Oct 25 09:20:31 I am not aware of any 6 digit area code Oct 25 09:21:04 ...you mean area code as in phone number or as in ZIP? Oct 25 09:21:16 phone number .. area prefix ;) Oct 25 09:21:25 yeah, so than what I said is correct :) Oct 25 09:21:32 but 32883 is not an area prefix :) Oct 25 09:21:41 they always start with 0 Oct 25 09:21:52 well depends.. Oct 25 09:21:58 +4932883 has no 0 in it ;) Oct 25 09:22:00 (or +49 instead of the 0) Oct 25 09:22:10 yep.. Oct 25 09:22:17 yeah, that's what I mean, so the area prefix in that number is 032 Oct 25 09:23:05 actually it's a number space assigned to area-independent VoIP phones ^^ Oct 25 09:24:21 jott: have you seen todays snapshot. Seems like qtopia-desktop has been added. Oct 25 09:24:26 whee Oct 25 09:24:28 no Oct 25 09:24:36 getting it ;) Oct 25 09:25:08 hm, if you don't count the 0 or +49 (we usually give numbers with a 0) , a German area prefix has at most 4 digits :) Oct 25 09:26:00 but many people will enter a number as 02681 / 2192391 Oct 25 09:26:30 Sput: actually saal has 5 digits as rohan pointed out ;) Oct 25 09:26:48 (so 6 with leading 0) Oct 25 09:27:01 Oo Oct 25 09:27:19 jeez Oct 25 09:27:29 them strange eastern german cities Oct 25 09:27:39 Sput: hm acutally it makes more sense to enter the number as +492681... as you can make calls in other countries then ;) Oct 25 09:27:59 hehe indeed .. as i said i can image there is a small village that has even more ;) Oct 25 09:28:12 like population of 5 .. ;) Oct 25 09:28:16 jott: I usually enter numbers with +49 in my address book, but nobody would say to another german "my number is +49160foobar" Oct 25 09:28:22 it's always 0 Oct 25 09:28:23 no.. Oct 25 09:28:32 but the point is.. qtopia currently fails at this ;) Oct 25 09:28:40 that's what I thought :) Oct 25 09:28:44 having the number as +49xxx entered .. Oct 25 09:28:56 and e-plus for example sends 03012345 .. Oct 25 09:29:14 hm, so all these abnormally long area prefixes start with 03, I guess? Oct 25 09:29:22 I think they might have introduced that 1990 Oct 25 09:29:34 dunno ;).. mine is 030 thats short enough ;p Oct 25 09:29:39 berlin Oct 25 09:30:04 yes ;) Oct 25 09:30:50 so its really not predictable in a easy way where the area prefix ends without having a lookup table ;) Oct 25 09:31:17 jott: that is true Oct 25 09:32:01 not even in a complicated way, I'd say Oct 25 09:32:07 not like utf8 :D Oct 25 09:32:10 hehe yeah.. Oct 25 09:33:03 thats why i would claim, comparing from back to front is the most general and safe way to check if two numbers are the same .. Oct 25 09:33:22 splitting them is just a mess for international numbers with all those different regulations ;) Oct 25 09:33:33 yes Oct 25 09:34:01 one should think about the +49/0 issue though Oct 25 09:34:08 yeah sure.. Oct 25 09:34:46 that would either be part of a normalization or you would have a threshold of matching digits Oct 25 09:36:18 like nokia.. a friend of mine changed his cellphone area code (like 0175 -> 0177) and my nokia phone still found him as the matching contact Oct 25 09:36:29 but i could not call him back as the number was wrong ;) Oct 25 09:36:40 (until he told me that he changed it ;-) Oct 25 09:37:46 but thats at least better than not finding numbers at all .. and the threshold nokia uses was probably too loose .. :) Oct 25 09:38:07 the only check like the last 8 digits or so ... Oct 25 09:38:35 well, I have a one-character change that fixes your particular case... Oct 25 09:38:59 It's still not correct though Oct 25 09:39:01 but probably only for 2/3 digit area codes? ;) Oct 25 09:39:05 Yes Oct 25 09:39:30 yeah thats my current hack to make the phone usable in my image ;p Oct 25 09:39:36 I think you're right, that going from right to left is the safest way to do it Oct 25 09:40:07 rohanpm: yeah plus it would probably make the code much more readable Oct 25 09:41:48 I don't want to make the correct change in 4.3 though Oct 25 09:42:01 :/ Oct 25 09:43:53 I'm going to submit the simple fix because I can't see it doing any harm Oct 25 09:44:05 what did you change? Oct 25 09:44:11 The proper fix will need unit tests written etc Oct 25 09:44:27 -static IDDRule defaultZeroRule = {0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 1}; Oct 25 09:44:27 +static IDDRule defaultZeroRule = {0, 0, 1, 2, 0, 1}; Oct 25 09:44:28 for me i just patched the "defaultZeroRule" :) Oct 25 09:44:30 yeah Oct 25 09:44:31 ok Oct 25 09:45:34 shouldn't the unit test be the same as for the current matchNumber? Oct 25 09:46:17 you've assumed there is one :-) Oct 25 09:46:22 ah ;) Oct 25 09:46:32 ok if you would write one it would fail anyway :p Oct 25 09:46:45 i understand ;) Oct 25 09:49:08 well for my images i will have it at static IDDRule defaultZeroRule = {0, 0, 3, 2, 0, 1}; :) Oct 25 09:49:54 as all mobile numbers here are 3 digits (without the leading 0) Oct 25 09:50:57 my first thought when looking at that code is, it should have a set of permissible area code lengths, not just two Oct 25 09:50:59 but still its an ugly bug that will be visibile to endusers when they actually use the phone :( Oct 25 09:51:02 but even that is not really right Oct 25 09:51:57 yeah, plus this is really dependend on the country you live in.. Oct 25 09:52:11 I don't think there should be any restriction on area code length or whatever, just treat the whole number as one string... I guess all current phones do this Oct 25 09:52:34 if you add a restriction there... I mean, there are about 200 countries in the world, who knows how a phone number looks Oct 25 09:53:20 yes, and it's not exactly future-proofed against space phones either Oct 25 09:54:23 so maybe you can convince yourself or somebody else to do the check from back to front for the 4.3 release :) Oct 25 09:56:52 and its probably 60 loc -> 6 loc ;) Oct 25 09:57:26 (you could actually do a formal proof on this one ;P Oct 25 11:22:47 hi,does qtopiamake subdirs project support variables? Oct 25 11:23:19 or the subdirs in qtopiamake must be a real sub directory? Oct 25 11:24:03 the SUBDIRS of qmake can be of 3 types: a sub dir,a project file,or a variable Oct 25 11:24:40 I'm porting my build system for cmake to qtopiamake now Oct 25 11:26:17 cmake has add_subdirectory() to make adding subdirectory very easy when building main project tree Oct 25 11:27:15 qmake can emulate this effect by setting a variable but subdir in the SUBDIRS variable Oct 25 11:27:33 but this don't work in qtopiamake Oct 25 11:28:10 have I to change my source code tree struture to adapt to qtopiamake? Oct 25 11:28:40 anybody can anwser my qestion? Oct 25 11:59:08 HI Oct 25 11:59:40 If I have two source file with the same name in different directory, Oct 25 11:59:53 such as parser.cpp and rdf/parser.cpp Oct 25 12:00:34 how can I tell qmake/qtopiamake to build parser.cpp to parser.o Oct 25 12:00:51 and rdf/parser.cpp to another build directory rdf/parser.o? Oct 25 12:01:30 If I can do this,I can solve my problem Oct 25 12:56:21 mh qt solutions leaking into qtopia as gpl ;P Oct 25 15:13:07 ljp around ? small question about device/xxx/server/xxxhardware.cpp , mine faiol wiith error about vtable entry Oct 25 15:22:40 What medias does cruxus support. Have anyone tested it with Qtopia.? Oct 25 15:36:55 raw pcm?! :P Oct 25 15:37:22 really nice format lol Oct 25 15:39:38 jott: not even ogg? Oct 25 15:39:51 hm don't know ;) was just a wild guess ;p Oct 25 15:40:04 :-) Oct 25 15:40:43 looking at it i suppose every registered QMediaCodecPlugin Oct 25 15:41:12 libtimidiy seems the only binding currently ;) Oct 25 15:41:22 so => midi :P Oct 25 15:41:49 what about qss2? Oct 25 15:42:22 jott have you tested qtopia-desktop yet? Oct 25 15:42:44 nope.. haven't compiled yet just took a quick look at the source Oct 25 15:43:09 ok, it's only windows source right? Oct 25 15:43:41 hm well at least it seems to be developed with outlook in mind ;) Oct 25 15:44:08 hey and you get QtSingleApplication as GPL now ;) (it's a qt solution) Oct 25 15:44:32 but it's disabled in the build, right? Oct 25 15:44:48 (so the whole qtopia-desktop) Oct 25 15:45:02 but it's gpl and so it's really nice.. Oct 25 15:45:53 i noticed they seem to provide qtopiamake.exe now :P Oct 25 15:46:15 (as well as the other perl scripts in bin/) Oct 25 15:47:39 * Sput wants QSingleApplication in standard QT Oct 25 15:47:45 Qt Oct 25 15:48:30 get it :) Oct 25 15:48:34 its gpl now :) Oct 25 17:10:11 any greenphone developers here use windows? Oct 25 17:14:41 lol, what is that ? Oct 25 17:15:00 haha Oct 25 17:15:03 I know Oct 25 17:15:11 windows or greenphone ?? ;) Oct 25 17:15:33 windows won't detect the greenphone. It says it does, but needs to install drivers Oct 25 17:15:37 ScaredyCat : blue windows :) Oct 25 17:15:45 I've already installed the SDK Oct 25 17:15:53 xamox : is it you speaking about qtopia desktop yesturday ? Oct 25 17:16:05 so I can't update to the lastest firmware for the phone Oct 25 17:16:11 cause I don't have mini-sd card Oct 25 17:17:33 xamox: windows does not need to detect the phone, vmware has to detect it :) Oct 25 17:17:51 jott, well I don't think it is Oct 25 17:18:01 does it have to be plugged in before I boot the VM Oct 25 17:18:13 I tried going to GP in koqueror Oct 25 17:18:17 but says it can't find it Oct 25 17:18:25 checked /mnt/ and don't think it's there Oct 25 17:18:25 mh i don't think so.. under linux vmware shows all available usb devices Oct 25 17:18:41 it's really a vmware issue i would say Oct 25 17:18:49 there has to be something like "connect usb device" or so Oct 25 17:19:01 or vmware enable usb host or what ever ;) Oct 25 17:19:05 don't use vmware that often Oct 25 17:19:19 hrm Oct 25 17:19:20 alright Oct 25 17:19:30 I have the USB device enabled for that VM Oct 25 17:20:09 There is bluetooth as well, right? Oct 25 17:20:15 maybe I could do it that way to the phone Oct 25 17:20:20 if usb doesn't work Oct 25 17:21:06 hm no you will need usb Oct 25 17:23:11 hrm Oct 25 17:23:22 well VMware is showing that there is a USB device connected Oct 25 17:24:13 what's the root PW for the VM? Oct 25 17:24:34 there is none afair.. just use sudo Oct 25 17:24:40 alright Oct 25 17:24:46 what's normal pass then? Oct 25 17:25:08 n/m Oct 25 17:35:24 I think I got it working Oct 25 17:35:27 on the greenphone Oct 25 17:35:39 I had to stop/start network devices and USB Oct 25 17:35:44 I think it's updating now Oct 25 17:36:13 * xamox crosses fingers Oct 25 17:41:19 update flash worked Oct 25 17:41:21 nice Oct 25 17:45:12 now you can start developing something nice ;P Oct 25 17:46:07 jott, hopefully Oct 25 17:46:22 jott, now when making my app, I know I can make the window size 240x320 Oct 25 17:46:39 but do I want it a little smaller because of the top bar (that shows batter power, etc)? Oct 25 17:47:21 keep in mind that the size is not fixed.. let the qt layout manager to the main work Oct 25 17:47:27 but keep in mind the small screensize Oct 25 17:47:45 (different themes may have more/less space available for applications) Oct 25 17:48:17 alright Oct 25 17:48:28 Well I'm developing it that size, just so things don't get messed up Oct 25 17:49:17 jott, do you have any example programs that you could point me to? Oct 25 17:50:27 hm there is an introduction pdf somewhere .. that gives some heads up.. Oct 25 17:50:36 * jott searches Oct 25 17:50:44 otherwise look at docs.trolltech.com .. Oct 25 17:51:20 http://dist.trolltech.com/pdf/LinuxFormat_May07.pdf Oct 25 17:51:39 jott, alright, thanks alot man. Oct 25 17:51:47 there are some typos in there so don't just copy and past but *think*! :) Oct 25 17:51:53 jott, thanks for all the help and not flaming on me. Oct 25 17:52:02 you're welcome ;) Oct 25 17:52:04 * chouimat hates modelview Oct 25 17:52:22 * jott throws a mvc pattern at chouimat Oct 25 17:52:26 ha! Oct 25 17:52:49 jott: I try to make an outliner using this Oct 25 18:09:48 hi,I have two files of the same name in different directories Oct 25 18:10:20 in qmake,I can use the "CONFIG+=object_with_source" to put object files in different dirs Oct 25 18:10:38 but this CONFIG has no effect on qtopiamake Oct 25 18:10:47 anybody can help me about this? Oct 25 18:17:08 maybe because object_with_source is not officially supported :/ Oct 25 18:17:58 qmake and qtopiamake is really bad program Oct 25 18:18:05 compared with cmake Oct 25 18:18:57 I don't understand why TT don't adopt cmake but still use this buggy qmake/qtopiamake Oct 25 18:18:59 well i wouldn't call it "bad" but cmake has some nice features, that is right :) Oct 25 18:20:02 The porting of cmake to qtopiamake has wasted me too much time Oct 25 18:20:35 and just because I have to use qtopiamake for qtopia development Oct 25 18:21:02 well you do not *have* to but it makes some things easier.. Oct 25 18:21:39 is it possible to use cmake for qtopia development? Oct 25 18:22:12 qmake/qtopiamake spoils TT's reputation in my eyes Oct 25 18:23:47 cmake can be used for qt, so it should be usable with qtopia as well Oct 25 18:23:56 how? Oct 25 18:24:18 I'd google qt cmake Oct 25 18:24:40 first of all you need cmake svn to support proper cross-compilation ;p Oct 25 18:26:02 I wouldn't know, I don't cross-compile :P Oct 25 18:26:21 ;) Oct 25 18:27:05 then you probably need to write a custom Qtopia4.cmake to adapt some of the qtopia features (like proper main.c macro support etc) Oct 25 18:27:52 I have to release the program by Dec. Oct 25 18:28:10 I've most 1 more day on build system Oct 25 18:28:19 then just use qmake/qtopiamake ;) Oct 25 18:29:07 just rename your files or make a seperate pro in a subdir ... Oct 25 18:29:20 it's not that hard to work around your issue Oct 25 18:29:50 the easiest method seems to symbol link another file to the file with name conflict Oct 25 18:30:26 then in qtopiamake I just use the symbol linked name Oct 25 18:30:29 or just rename it :) Oct 25 18:30:43 in cmake,I still use the old name Oct 25 18:30:46 and sed over the includes :) Oct 25 18:31:09 I don't want to rename because the two files do the same thing Oct 25 18:31:38 then why do you need two files.. Oct 25 18:32:04 say,parser.cpp Oct 25 18:32:15 one parser is for rss2 Oct 25 18:32:20 one parser is for atom Oct 25 18:32:27 one parser is for rdf Oct 25 18:32:31 then its parser_rss2.cpp and parser_atom.cpp or something like that.. Oct 25 18:32:35 its not that hard Oct 25 18:33:02 my tree is atom,rdf,rss2 at top dir Oct 25 18:33:04 and costs you like 20 seconds time included to update your CMakeList.txt Oct 25 18:33:43 the files in different dir do just the same thing Oct 25 18:33:51 then your design is broken Oct 25 18:33:56 but they just do the same thing for different RSS format Oct 25 18:34:05 why? Oct 25 18:34:58 jott,why do you think my design is broken? Oct 25 18:35:17 my design works well when built by cmake Oct 25 18:35:22 when they are the same you have to abstract Oct 25 18:35:37 the abstract is in the root dir Oct 25 18:35:38 when they are inherited then you can just rename them Oct 25 18:36:00 and then its not parser anymore but class ParserRss2 : public Parser or such Oct 25 18:36:05 the file in rss2,atom,rdf just inherit the files in root dir Oct 25 18:36:09 and your file name would be parserrss2.cpp Oct 25 18:36:15 and i don't want to discuss this further Oct 25 18:36:55 either live with your design desicion and try to get cmake running or use subdirs with qmake or just rename them period. Oct 25 18:37:05 I use the same name with differrent namespace Oct 25 18:37:20 jott, you ever have problems with your greenphone locking up? Oct 25 18:37:39 Parser, RSS2:Parser, RDF::Parser,ATOM::Parser,etc Oct 25 18:38:28 I think this is better to name it parser_rss2 etc Oct 25 18:56:08 anyone have problems with their greenphone not letting them copy files? Oct 25 18:56:15 It keeps dropping my connection Oct 25 18:56:19 trying to use gph -i Oct 25 18:56:35 then if I try to copy the .ipk file in koqueror, it's crapping out Oct 25 19:04:19 whats wrong with qmake? Oct 25 19:06:11 ljp: qtopiamake does not seem to support the undocumented CONFIG flag object_with_source Oct 25 19:06:51 (and he had serveral different files in one project with the same name and hence the same object name) Oct 25 19:07:28 xamox: try reaquire authkey in the dev menu on the phone... Oct 25 19:08:30 jott, Oct 25 19:08:34 Yeah I did that Oct 25 19:08:37 then gph -net Oct 25 19:08:39 on the SDK Oct 25 19:08:43 still no love Oct 25 19:08:48 mh Oct 25 19:11:36 ljp: any hint for xamox? he's using xp and vmware sdk 4.2.4... Oct 25 19:12:49 when I do gph -net Oct 25 19:12:57 It says DSA key sent succesfully Oct 25 19:13:01 when using gph -i Oct 25 19:14:32 I get "install package blah.qpk initiated succesfully" Oct 25 19:14:58 then "QWSocket::connection refused" Oct 25 19:15:22 have you accepted the dialog on the phone? Oct 25 19:15:41 hrm Oct 25 19:15:46 no dialog pops up Oct 25 19:15:48 hm Oct 25 19:15:50 I'll try again Oct 25 19:15:51 * chouimat curses at model/view Oct 25 19:16:12 and if I open konqueror and trying copying the .qpk manually, it craps out too Oct 25 19:16:23 * jott puts some delegates on chouimat desk :p Oct 25 19:16:50 jott: how about a complex example with explaination ... Oct 25 19:17:07 watch the devday 06 videos ;P Oct 25 19:17:15 or take the example code there Oct 25 19:17:21 jott: url? Oct 25 19:18:05 http://trolltech.com/company/newsroom/events/allevents/devdays2006/videolinks Oct 25 19:18:56 "Advanced Item Views" and probably "Qt Model View Controller Classes" (only watched the former ;) Oct 25 19:19:40 and actually http://doc.trolltech.com/4.3/model-view-programming.html is quite verbose too Oct 25 19:20:03 jott: I'm the kind of person that need a lot of example Oct 25 19:21:50 * xamox is too Oct 25 19:22:06 yeah the tt doc has quite a few example snippets.. Oct 25 19:22:32 and the video is also ok ;) you can skip the boring parts too :p Oct 25 19:24:04 and there is koders.com and google.com/codesearch ;P Oct 25 19:27:22 jott, does your greenphone ever lock up? Oct 25 19:27:58 uhm it happens but very seldom.. Oct 25 19:28:03 hrm Oct 25 19:28:08 mine keeps locking up Oct 25 19:28:12 mh.. Oct 25 19:28:26 like total crash that you have to take the battery out? Oct 25 19:28:31 yep Oct 25 19:28:35 mh.. Oct 25 19:29:13 don't know.. i'm using 4.3 since a while.. and only since 4.3 i use it as "real phone" ;) Oct 25 19:31:37 jott, does 4.3 have a lot of improvements? Oct 25 19:32:05 xamox: whats version qtpia on greenphone? Oct 25 19:32:13 4.3 rocks Oct 25 19:32:15 just upgraded to 4.2.4 Oct 25 19:32:24 should I just upgrade to 4.3 then? Oct 25 19:32:43 there is no sdk yet, and the final 4.3.0 is very soon. Oct 25 19:33:03 hrm Oct 25 19:33:10 like how soon? Oct 25 19:33:18 ljp: why is the smudge theme renamed? Oct 25 19:33:20 is there a life cycle setup? Oct 25 19:33:23 it is the same right? Oct 25 19:33:24 like before my birthday :) Oct 25 19:33:30 which is? Oct 25 19:33:36 xamox: soon :P Oct 25 19:33:37 haha Oct 25 19:33:42 no tentative date? Oct 25 19:33:53 I'm on the greenphone grant Oct 25 19:33:56 ljp: maybe you should provide an updated flash image for the greenphone Oct 25 19:34:00 goxboxlive: it was renamed to finxi. someone didnt like the word smudge Oct 25 19:34:03 so I have to finish this before Nov. 30th Oct 25 19:34:05 so people can just flash it :) Oct 25 19:34:16 (the -preview is quite broken) Oct 25 19:34:32 ljp: :-) Oct 25 19:34:39 it looks good though Oct 25 19:34:49 goxboxlive: has it changed? Oct 25 19:35:20 no Oct 25 19:35:55 it's the same...... Oct 25 19:36:16 ok :) just sounded as if they changed more than the name ;) Oct 25 19:36:16 it now includes more input methods Oct 25 19:36:19 but i like it too Oct 25 19:36:33 the fingerscroll should be more "kinetic" though.. Oct 25 19:36:36 ljp what is this Setting security options to: 3 ? Oct 25 19:38:02 * chouimat is listening to Age Of Innocence... How Old by Iron Maiden on No More Lies (EP) [Amarok] Oct 25 19:38:25 not sure. is it making trouble? Oct 25 19:38:49 ljp: no, just for my information ;) Oct 25 19:38:54 it might have to do with sim pin Oct 25 19:39:02 i havent traced that yet Oct 25 19:39:07 i click onto dialer, but it look small :( Oct 25 19:39:23 i ve to test modem then with this preview Oct 25 19:41:20 jott: thanks for the links but I don't have so much problems with the view it's with the model and it's data where the problem is Oct 25 19:43:19 but the doc.tt thingie explains that too ;) Oct 25 19:43:35 alright, I gotta run, thanks for the help everyone Oct 25 19:43:54 jott: I think i will go get a beer or 2, get some sleep and reread the stuff tomorrow Oct 25 19:44:31 hehe yeah might be an good approach ;) Oct 25 19:44:52 jott: didn't slept in 2 days Oct 25 19:45:34 yieks Oct 25 19:45:57 yeah drink a beer that will help you to finally sleep for a few hours ;) Oct 25 19:50:21 jott: and today it's a 48oz beer for 11.01$ (taxes included) ... normaly a 20oz is 6.49$ (taxes included) Oct 25 19:53:04 48oz thats 1.4l?! mh thats indeed a beer ;) Oct 25 20:00:11 jott: a jug ... Oct 25 20:02:29 hehe yeah real man drink from the jug with one nip ;) Oct 25 21:22:26 is there any spot in the phone edition where one could pull out a cell id? Oct 25 21:22:43 or do I have to talk to the modem directly? Oct 25 21:23:46 Kliment: isn't that ? http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.3/qcbsmessage.html Oct 25 21:25:42 no, but it had a link to what I was looking for Oct 25 21:25:45 thank you Oct 25 21:25:53 http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.3/qnetworkregistration.html#cellId-prop Oct 25 21:25:55 ok ;) Oct 25 21:26:30 Kliment: you need to be in creg=2,2 mode or so Oct 25 21:27:25 how is that done then? Oct 25 21:46:13 Kliment: nr = new QNetworkRegistration ( "modem", this ); nr->cellId(); Oct 25 21:46:54 do something like QCommServiceManager *commManager = new QCommServiceManager ( this ); if ( commManager->supports().contains ( "modem" ) ) {....} to check if its available Oct 25 21:47:52 and hook on the signals like locationChanged() **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Oct 26 02:59:56 2007