**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Feb 01 02:59:57 2008 Feb 01 05:20:10 good morning Feb 01 05:42:37 hi Feb 01 05:43:28 hi ljp, did you test rotation yet? Feb 01 05:47:00 I have build the Qtopia image inOE now.. Havent tested it though. But there is a lot of stuff that isent included in it. I just cant seem to find in example a atartup script, all the applications and a lot of other stuff. Feb 01 05:47:24 I can only find some Qtopia libs Feb 01 05:48:44 ljp: we tried switching to showMaximized(). This doesn't work because i guess the qws server won't maximize windows. They end up showing up in top left corner as small as possible. Feb 01 05:51:54 odd Feb 01 05:53:10 i was going to mention QWidgetStack, but then I figured you were using separate apps Feb 01 05:53:42 If you are using windows, maybe this is what you want? Feb 01 05:59:41 we are using many applications Feb 01 05:59:54 the problem is that popup QMessageBox opens below all windows Feb 01 06:00:03 We need FullScreen, but still message box open on top Feb 01 06:00:20 since showMaximized() doesn't work Feb 01 06:02:40 we've got a release of alpha going out in a few hours and still having basic problems with windows Feb 01 06:02:50 not looking good :( Feb 01 06:06:06 ljp: http://www.limesg.com/maximized.jpg Feb 01 06:06:29 this is 2 apps, both windows opened with showMaximized() Feb 01 06:06:36 showFullScreen() works fine Feb 01 06:07:30 i never had any luck getting it to compile qtopia core to build in cygwin Feb 01 06:07:53 i tried compiling it in linux and now qmake is crashing Feb 01 06:07:58 weee Feb 01 06:08:18 er Feb 01 06:08:20 not crashing Feb 01 06:08:24 erroring out Feb 01 06:18:01 crweb: you might have to patch qtopia core src/gui/embedded/qwindowsystem_qws.cpp Feb 01 06:18:08 http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/view/16565/ Feb 01 06:18:22 crweb: raiseWindow() Feb 01 06:19:17 ave it ignore always on top? Feb 01 06:19:37 thats going to suck though, cause there are windows that should always be on top Feb 01 06:19:42 like virtual keyboard Feb 01 06:20:16 i don't understand why showFullScreen is setting WindowStaysOnTop flag Feb 01 06:20:31 can't find it in source .. Feb 01 06:21:19 #error "Qt has not been ported to this OS - talk to qt-bugs@trolltech.com" Feb 01 06:21:58 is my config line wrong? Feb 01 06:22:12 it seems to be picking up the use of the arm compiler though Feb 01 06:22:16 that i put in the conf file Feb 01 06:22:20 in the mkspec Feb 01 06:29:46 ./configure -xplatform qws/linux-arm-g++ -embedded arm -little-endian Feb 01 06:38:33 JViz: which version of Qtopia have that device config profile "qws/linux-arm-g++"? Feb 01 06:39:42 I can't find qws/linux-arm-g++ in ver 4.2.5 and 4.3.0 Feb 01 06:40:03 crweb: qwidget_qws.cpp Feb 01 06:40:18 setWindowState Feb 01 06:40:20 i see, i was looking in the main tree source Feb 01 06:40:37 setParent(0, Qt::FramelessWindowHint | (windowFlags() & Qt::WindowStaysOnTopHint)) Feb 01 06:40:52 i think thats what you want Feb 01 06:40:55 to edit :) Feb 01 06:40:59 thanks Feb 01 06:47:09 but. i wonder why showMaximized isnt working Feb 01 06:47:19 I wonder the same. Feb 01 06:47:39 does showMaximized require Decorations? Feb 01 06:52:55 possibly Feb 01 06:53:26 we have decorations turned off. since we will not be using them Feb 01 06:57:19 testing on the PC Feb 01 07:38:38 crweb: how goes it? Feb 01 07:38:53 stressful :) Feb 01 07:39:16 this is my first major release with the company Feb 01 07:39:32 I was just a community geek last major firmware release ;) Feb 01 07:39:53 I've got a temp fix put in place Feb 01 07:40:00 to force everything to top Feb 01 07:40:36 real solutions are going to be needed after this alpha though Feb 01 07:41:04 ljp: we started the process of making a support contract, but its kind of fallen apart Feb 01 07:41:38 hmm Feb 01 07:41:50 ljp: trolltech seems to be more conserned about our hardware, and we are looking more for software support (such as, why doesn't raise() work) Feb 01 07:43:25 lol. concerned i mean Feb 01 08:44:28 ljp no, h didn't mean the qtopia wasn't good enough, he meant his bb file Feb 01 08:45:16 s/h//he Feb 01 09:20:29 I'm port qtopia to my arm board, and the keypad and the touch screen work fine, but the screen shown nothin Feb 01 09:21:05 I'm pretty sure the framebuffer is working, I can draw a rectangle on the screen Feb 01 09:21:36 but while I run 'clock -qws', the screen only become green and show nothing Feb 01 09:22:01 any suggestion? Feb 01 09:22:46 I also set up the gdbserver on the board, but it really hard to debug which part is not working Feb 01 10:59:09 AceLan: qtopia-core-opensource-src-4.3.3 Feb 01 11:19:48 oh Feb 01 11:20:01 lemme try this... Feb 01 11:21:44 i think my configure line was wrong Feb 01 11:22:41 the complicated stuff is never a problem, it's always mr.obvious-glaring-stupid-mistake Feb 01 11:28:30 like that i added -embedded arm to the configure line when i'm compiling on x86 linux Feb 01 11:29:11 /genius Feb 01 11:40:16 lol Feb 01 11:40:20 still getting the same error Feb 01 11:45:19 AceLan: maybe try different application. I had same issue, some demo applications would not start Feb 01 11:45:37 or they draw outside of the screen area Feb 01 12:21:59 ok Feb 01 12:22:06 another wonderful manuver Feb 01 12:22:26 maybe i'm blind Feb 01 12:22:43 i should get my eyes checked or something Feb 01 12:38:40 where would __linux__ normally get defined? Feb 01 12:57:52 blar Feb 01 14:32:32 morning Feb 01 18:03:00 http://www.funambol.com/blog/capo/2008/01/funambol-and-trolltech.html Feb 01 18:07:41 ljp: that would be cool, although a simple groupdav sync would be just as useful for me :) Feb 01 18:23:52 ljp, Sweet. (-: Feb 01 18:24:02 Funambol is just standards-compliant SyncML stuff, right? Feb 01 18:31:53 ljp: http://www.parliamenthill.gc.ca/text/hillcam_e.html Feb 01 18:43:17 looks cold Feb 01 18:44:07 only -8C ... nice snow storm will be fun to get back home after work Feb 01 18:51:55 21 here and not yet daylight Feb 01 18:54:25 they forecast 30 to 40 cm of snow today and tonight Feb 01 18:56:03 i have to mow my lawn again after only one week Feb 01 18:56:46 my wife fried the electric mower trying to mow meter tall grass, so I had to buy a petrol one Feb 01 19:00:26 ljp: your fault, you let her do it :) Feb 01 19:01:41 i was sic of it anyway, gave me a good excuse Feb 01 19:01:48 hehe Feb 01 19:02:25 ljp: can you tell your wife to come use my electric mower, too? it's a PoS, I want one of those you can ride Feb 01 19:02:58 ha Feb 01 19:03:08 21C? niice, we're at ~36C with 39 'wind chill' (you know, humidity, etc, considered) Feb 01 19:03:32 supposed to get up to 28 Feb 01 19:04:03 supposed to get to -30C in the next few days Feb 01 19:04:35 I'm just glad summer is ending, a lot of 40+ days Feb 01 19:08:35 wasnt very hot this year, just really rainy Feb 01 19:30:26 so what does anyone think of the Nokia news? Feb 01 19:31:26 ljp: think nothing, just a good news, you can get more help, and maybe qtopia as more and more application Feb 01 19:31:30 ljp: so far it seems nice for you ... I will simply wait and see :) Feb 01 19:31:54 ljp: having more money for development is always good =) Feb 01 19:32:15 ljp: does it change something for your day to day work ? Feb 01 19:32:38 nope. not yet anyway. except maybe I will have to work on the n800 port more Feb 01 19:32:50 BabelO: he will have to learn finnish to speak with his new manager ;)\ Feb 01 19:33:54 chouimat|work: lol Feb 01 19:34:15 ljp: it is a good news then Feb 01 19:34:45 ljp: do we have to send a little email to cindy to get more news about our application Feb 01 19:35:10 ljp: did you try mine on Neo, not sure goxboxlive add it to Neo image Feb 01 19:39:12 BabelO: i think i added it. Feb 01 19:39:49 goxboxlive: good then ljp can see it ;) Feb 01 19:39:51 cindy is not working for trolltech anymore she went elsewhere about a month or so Feb 01 19:40:11 ljp: :( have to look more at linkedin :) Feb 01 19:45:23 ljp: on the nokia news... I have mixed feelings. I wish I knew exactly what nokia's modivation was. Feb 01 19:46:04 ljp: Cindy profile not up to date :( Feb 01 19:46:46 too easy to change office at san francisco Feb 01 19:47:01 ljp: perhaps I'm just paranoid. I do hope that nokia starts using Qtopia on their devices though :) Feb 01 19:47:58 perhaps one day Feb 01 19:48:36 ljp: do you have any OMAP processor datasheet ? Feb 01 19:49:02 ljp: do you have any idea what their primary modivation for the buy was? Feb 01 19:51:33 bipolar: they want to fight with android / open handset alliance ;) Feb 01 19:52:27 BabelO: that would imply using Qtopia, and pretty quickly Feb 01 19:53:14 they should start with the N series... heh Feb 01 19:53:18 bipolar: yes, but i have to look at Nokia partner... i think i see something i dislike few day ago Feb 01 19:54:47 bipolar: desktop. not qtopia Feb 01 19:55:52 ljp: So they wanted QT for desktop development? interesting.... Feb 01 19:56:43 well... at least QT4 is out there in gpl3 form so they can't do anything to lock it up. Feb 01 20:03:54 chouimat|work: look at this http://www.toolinux.com/news/logiciels/nokia_observe_l_open_handset_alliance_et_n_exclut_pas_de_rejoindre_google_ar9818.html Feb 01 20:04:14 chouimat|work: nokia was looking at open handset alliance ....grhhh Feb 01 20:04:29 :) Feb 01 22:52:02 ljp: are you awake? Feb 01 23:08:15 yes Feb 01 23:08:22 are you? :) Feb 01 23:10:04 ljp: it's friday Feb 01 23:10:14 of course i'm awake Feb 01 23:11:13 now, i have forgotten what i was going to ask u about (i have had a few beers), probably something about rotation and post office in Australia Feb 01 23:11:16 :-D Feb 01 23:15:04 hmm Feb 01 23:16:03 ljp: have done some of it? Dint excuse you about your lawn :-) Feb 01 23:20:14 :) Feb 01 23:20:59 i was waiting for the guy who ported the rotation app to get back from holiday Feb 01 23:21:28 ljp: the rotation stuff is very important. People are bugging me all the time, and i need some help with it, because i think there might be some Qtopia bug Feb 01 23:22:31 ljp: i think the basic transformed driver is more important Feb 01 23:25:50 transformed driver is already working. its the dynamic rotation that would be new Feb 01 23:30:08 ljp: yes it rotate, but the toucscreen doesnt follow the angle Feb 01 23:33:42 ljp: there has to be something wrong with the OE Qtopia images. In tar.bz2 size the Qtopia-core-gui-image is only 9.1MB of size Feb 01 23:33:57 mine is at least 29MB Feb 01 23:57:56 ljp: still there? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Feb 02 02:59:57 2008