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Feb 05 14:44:06 <chouimat|work> morning
Feb 05 20:46:51 <kiozen> I wish QPixmap had some API for convolution filters :)
Feb 05 23:11:33 <crweb> Is there some sort of solution in Qtopia to share pixmaps and other data between applications?  The application-wide sharing is great, but All out apps use the same resources, theme, style, and pixmaps.  This is a lot of wasted memory
Feb 05 23:15:20 <ljp> pixmapcache, but it is in qtopia phone. ;(
Feb 05 23:15:37 <ljp> might want to look at that
Feb 05 23:20:09 <crweb> qpixmapcache is in 4.3.3, but it says its only application-wide
Feb 05 23:21:04 <crweb> ljp: btw, the contract went through today
Feb 05 23:21:14 <crweb> ljp: that cc to the lead guy helped
Feb 05 23:21:24 <crweb> thx
Feb 05 23:22:10 <ljp> good news
Feb 05 23:22:17 <ljp> :)
Feb 05 23:22:38 <rohanpm> crweb: QGlobalPixmapCache is the one in Qtopia
Feb 05 23:22:39 <ljp> volkers a good guy
Feb 05 23:22:49 <crweb> i see
Feb 05 23:22:56 <crweb> might have to rip that out
Feb 05 23:23:53 <crweb> doesn't help with the style sharing though. every app has to load the style plugin into memory
Feb 05 23:24:07 <crweb> that takes 2-3 seconds on our arm 200
Feb 05 23:24:16 <ljp> ouch
Feb 05 23:24:20 <crweb> application startup time is horrid
Feb 05 23:24:32 <crweb> 5 second startup times for basic apps
Feb 05 23:24:49 <crweb> performance while running though we've gotten pretty nice
Feb 05 23:25:00 <crweb> boss is really upset with load times though
Feb 05 23:39:44 <ljp> could you do a sort of application server that has style and other common elements available? so the apps become plugins. sort of like quicklauncher
Feb 05 23:53:51 <crweb> I've thought about that
Feb 05 23:55:30 <ljp> could just have a launcher app do that
Feb 06 02:01:25 <apol> is there any list of devices that support qtopia somewhere?
Feb 06 02:10:26 <apol> is there any device supported besides fic's neo and greenphone?
Feb 06 02:23:17 <ljp> nokia tables are semi supported
Feb 06 02:23:25 <ljp> as are sharp zaurus
Feb 06 02:23:57 <ljp> gumstix can run qtopia
Feb 06 02:24:06 <ljp> nokia tablets, that is
Feb 06 02:24:29 <ljp> and something tells me i will have to work on the n8x0 more
Feb 06 02:27:39 <apol> ljp: what does semi-supported mean?
Feb 06 02:28:42 <apol> I have been looking through the internet, and I haven't seen anything that relates qtopia and maemo
Feb 06 02:29:12 <ljp> semi working, and a lot remains to be done/fixed
Feb 06 02:29:32 <apol> ljp: can't take it as a development platform then :S
Feb 06 02:29:48 <ljp> best bet would be the neo
Feb 06 02:30:14 <apol> i know... but i wanted the neo to be released
Feb 06 02:30:22 <apol> I mean the definitive neo
Feb 06 02:30:32 <apol> ljp: but it seems that it won't ever arrive xD
Feb 06 02:31:13 <ljp> yes, it has been a long wait
Feb 06 02:31:57 <apol> and still
Feb 06 02:34:23 <ljp> we are about to release a qtopia sdk for the neo, so you can at least get started on something
Feb 06 02:35:29 <apol> ljp: are you working on trolltech? (i ignore this kind of things xD)
Feb 06 02:35:35 <ljp> yes
Feb 06 02:35:59 <apol> nice :)
Feb 06 02:36:38 <apol> ljp: i thought that the neo already was the suggested platform for qtopia
Feb 06 02:37:18 <ljp> it is. we just havent released an easy all in one sdk
Feb 06 02:37:26 <apol> i see
Feb 06 02:37:47 <apol> well, i'll have to wait to begin my emedded experience then :S
Feb 06 02:38:13 <ljp> wont be long
Feb 06 02:38:18 <apol> i don't want to spend my money on a useless device, since i only want it to port my oss soft
Feb 06 02:42:16 <ljp> dont blame you
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