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Apr 20 11:36:51 <g1powermac_PB> Hi All
Apr 20 11:37:11 <g1powermac_PB> I'm looking to port qtopia to run on the zipit 2 http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS5942157201.html
Apr 20 11:37:41 <g1powermac_PB> is there any info out there that gives an overview on how to get qtopia running on a new device?
Apr 20 20:10:52 <g1powermac> how much of a base embedded linux system does qtopia need to run?
Apr 20 20:13:00 <pusling> depends what you build your qtopia with.  
Apr 20 20:13:28 <pusling> but sqeezing qtopia 4.4 rc1 and environment into 512 mb space is not hard
Apr 20 20:22:34 <g1powermac> well, I meant more in software terms in the embedded device
Apr 20 20:23:02 <g1powermac> this system has a very basic linux system running on it and am curious if qtopia needs anything extra to run
Apr 20 20:24:00 <pusling> it depends on what you enable/disable and wether you are using system libraries or embedded code copies ...
Apr 20 20:24:22 <g1powermac> well, the base system is all statically linked
Apr 20 20:24:31 <g1powermac> so can't use system libraries
Apr 20 20:27:45 <BabelO> hi 
Apr 20 20:28:02 <BabelO> g1powermac: you speak about qtopiacore or qtopia ?
Apr 20 20:29:24 <g1powermac> well, I'm working with the qtopia open source edition
Apr 20 20:30:30 <BabelO> g1powermac: qtopia use dbus to dial with external like bluetooth
Apr 20 20:30:50 <BabelO> so you need libdbus-1 and dbus-daemon running
Apr 20 20:31:06 <g1powermac> hmm
Apr 20 20:31:08 <BabelO> libstdc++ too
Apr 20 20:31:15 <BabelO> required this one
Apr 20 20:31:40 <BabelO> all other librarie like openssl are optionnal
Apr 20 20:31:50 <g1powermac> ok, well, the hardware I'm using doesn't have bluetooth or anything really associated with a phone
Apr 20 20:32:20 <g1powermac> just wifi, audio, lcd, qwerty keyboard, and a minisd slot
Apr 20 20:33:09 <g1powermac> http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS5942157201.html
Apr 20 20:33:40 <g1powermac> so really just libstdc++?
Apr 20 20:34:07 <BabelO> yes
Apr 20 20:34:47 <BabelO> this device have only 32Mb ram ?
Apr 20 20:34:56 <g1powermac> yes
Apr 20 20:37:15 <g1powermac> well that cause an issue?
Apr 20 20:44:01 <BabelO> g1powermac: no, should work, it works well on 64Mb of RAM
Apr 20 20:44:04 <ljp> libstdc++ is not required by qtopiua, it is usually g++ compiler that requires it, and can be make to not require it.
Apr 20 20:44:28 <pusling> ljp: isn't that just a matter of static linking - or can it actually be made not to require it at all ?
Apr 20 20:44:36 <BabelO> Just be carefull to disable non used stuff like qdsync and mediaserver maybe
Apr 20 20:44:53 <ljp> its a configure line when building gcc, but I forget what it is.
Apr 20 20:44:55 <BabelO> ljp: ok
Apr 20 20:47:02 <ljp> some toolchains link libstdc++ in automatically when using g++
Apr 20 20:47:44 <pusling> aren't toolchains and systems meant to be hacked anyway ? ;)
Apr 20 20:47:55 <BabelO> ljp: ok that is why when i use qtopia.net or angstrom toolchain
Apr 20 21:24:07 <g1powermac> ljp, hmm, ok, so realistically once I set qtopia to build for the device, I really don't need anything extra, ehh?
Apr 20 22:56:19 <ljp> depends on your configuration
Apr 20 23:27:33 <BabelO> ljp: did you check irda support on latest qtopia release ?
Apr 21 00:16:11 <ljp> nope
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