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Apr 28 13:17:08 <chouimat|work> morning
Apr 28 13:39:27 * pusling needs to convince his boss to buy qtopia-core/qt-embedded. Anyone got any technical reasons to not choose qt ?
Apr 28 17:26:45 <ljp> pusling: ya, if you like doing things the hard way, dont use qt
Apr 28 17:33:40 <BabelO_> lol, yes uise gtk :)
Apr 28 17:41:23 <chouimat|work> nah asm directly to the fb
Apr 28 18:08:29 <pusling> ljp: heh ;)
Apr 28 18:09:54 <ljp> pusling: theres a reason why Nokia is buying trolltech :)
Apr 28 18:11:22 <pusling> ljp: yeah. I am just writing a small document describing pros and cons for my bos for gtk/maemo, qt/embededd, java and "do everything from scratch".  But I just feel it wrong not to have anything in "cons" of qt ;)
Apr 28 18:13:07 <chouimat|work> pusling: be creative ;)
Apr 28 18:13:19 <pusling> yeah. but I'm developer, not artist ;)
Apr 28 18:14:09 <EgS> pusling: and not to forget: Qt will run on maemo in the future
Apr 28 18:14:30 <chouimat|work> pusling: I'm sure you can come with some "management friendly BS" :)
Apr 28 18:14:51 <pusling> the only "con" is the licensing fees for closed source apps
Apr 28 18:15:34 <ljp> licensing fees are much smaller than added development costs of using something else
Apr 28 18:15:49 <chouimat|work> pusling: which could be translated by "actively developed"
Apr 28 18:17:25 <pusling> ljp: yeah - that's also my impression. Going Qt, I would be able to handle almost everything myself. Going gtk will certainly need another developer 
Apr 28 18:43:32 <ljp> cons of Qt: there are no cons :)
Apr 28 18:46:54 * chouimat|work wonders if he order a n800
Apr 28 20:14:17 <ljp> the n810 is better, but the keyboard is less usable than the zaurus
Apr 28 20:14:25 <ljp> and doesnt have radio
Apr 28 20:14:31 <ljp> the n810 has gps
Apr 28 20:15:06 <chouimat|work> ljp: I don't need the gps ... so I ordered the n800 for 300CAD
Apr 28 20:15:27 <pusling> ljp: if I need 50 custom devices with qt/embedded on it - is buyng 50 n810 and giving them a new "shell" the best & easiest way ?
Apr 28 20:23:55 <ljp> pusling: possibly. I have been working on qtopia on n810 lately
Apr 28 20:24:13 <chouimat|work> ljp: how is qtopia on the n800?
Apr 28 20:24:42 <ljp> should work the same. although I havent done anything with v4l yet, or radio
Apr 28 20:25:30 <ljp> wpa_supplicant doesn;t work as their wifi driver is missing wext
Apr 28 20:25:32 <chouimat|work> ljp: my current plan is to have something that is not a cellphone like my gp to replace my palm m125 and my slk-500d
Apr 28 20:25:37 <pusling> ljp: it is also what my research tell me, but I was just wondering if you had secret insider inf o,)
Apr 28 20:25:50 <chouimat|work> err sl-5000d
Apr 28 20:26:09 <ljp> pusling: its either n810 or openmoko phone.
Apr 28 20:26:45 <ljp> openmoko phone being harder to find
Apr 28 20:27:51 <pusling> ljp: yeah. that was my second choice. But I mostly care for monitor size to be big
Apr 28 20:29:42 <ljp> and n810 comes with actual working software
Apr 28 20:33:22 <pusling> I only care for working qt/embedded and working touchscreen
Apr 28 20:45:22 <bipolar> ljp: are there 'official' Qtopia images for the Nokia tablets yet?
Apr 28 21:41:14 <ljp> not yet
Apr 28 21:45:12 <BabelO> lot of thing to wait
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