**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Aug 12 02:59:56 2008
Aug 12 06:35:54 <Ko_deZ> Oooh. Fancy shit going on now. I plugged the powersupply into my FR, and it woke up, and keeps flashing between the "enter pin" screen and the home-screen.
Aug 12 06:36:06 <Ko_deZ> at aproximately 1Hz
Aug 12 06:39:41 <Ko_deZ> no, I was mistaken. The screen was locked. I setup the go to homescreen and screen lock when suspending. All I had to do was press the * key obviously. The flashing only happend with the power connected. Without power connected, it stopped flashing, and I could press unlock. After a short period, the keypad disappeared again, just like the flashing. Seems that when the power was connected, it detected a lot of unlock presses.
Aug 12 07:12:19 <goxboxlive> ljp: When are you going to reløease Qtopia 4.3? Dont say "soon". You have said "soon" for allmost a haløf year now :-)
Aug 12 07:13:13 <Ko_deZ> goxboxlive: I believe 4.3 is the current version.
Aug 12 07:13:37 <Ko_deZ> I am running 4.3.2 if I am not mistaken.
Aug 12 07:18:58 <lpotter> you mean 4.4? 4.3.3 is in a few dats
Aug 12 07:23:18 <lpotter> days
Aug 12 07:52:17 <goxboxlive> lpotter: of course i  mean 4.4 . When do you think?
Aug 12 07:56:04 <etchgroup> hi 
Aug 12 07:56:09 <etchgroup> how are you?
Aug 12 07:58:58 <etchgroup> Can I ask help for embedded arm ts72xx serie  please?
Aug 12 08:11:19 <lpotter> goxboxlive: cant really say. but before Halloween
Aug 12 08:18:42 <goxboxlive> i c
Aug 12 08:51:32 <BabelO> hi
Aug 12 08:51:33 <pusling> so. lpotter 's employer just gave me a n810. how do I get qtopia on it ?
Aug 12 12:47:35 <Sput> pusling: that would be an interesting question, though I must admit the installed maemo is quite functional too
Aug 12 12:47:45 <Sput> ...I wonder if it can dualboot :)
Aug 12 12:48:08 <Zero_Dogg> maemo is quite good
Aug 12 13:02:19 <BabelO> Sput: yes maemo works very well on my n800 too
Aug 12 16:24:19 <RXShorty> Hi everyone :D
Aug 12 21:04:26 <lpotter> hi
Aug 12 21:04:44 <RXShorty> Hi lpotter
Aug 12 21:05:44 <lpotter> hi
Aug 12 21:06:11 <RXShorty> how are things? working out a bit? My article is going to be published btw. with a link to qtopia.net ;)
Aug 12 21:06:25 <lpotter> things are ok.
Aug 12 21:06:52 <RXShorty> Good to hear. 
Aug 12 21:07:42 <RXShorty> any news? 
Aug 12 21:08:37 <lpotter> ummm.. 4.4 needs more work
Aug 12 21:09:17 <RXShorty> ahh ok... yeah you told it should take about 2 or 3 weeks until we can expect a good release right?
Aug 12 21:09:19 <chouimat|work> still a few more weeks(months)
Aug 12 21:09:23 <chouimat|work> ?
Aug 12 21:09:56 <lpotter> i said 'a few more weeks' :)
Aug 12 21:10:07 <lpotter> which could be more than 3
Aug 12 21:10:13 <RXShorty> ahh sorry
Aug 12 21:10:16 <chouimat|work> lpotter: and a months is 4 weeks ;)
Aug 12 21:10:21 <RXShorty> twisting things ;)
Aug 12 21:10:26 <lpotter> no worries wish i could say when
Aug 12 21:10:40 <lpotter> a few weeks coul dmean more than a month
Aug 12 21:11:45 <lpotter> but kess than many months :)
Aug 12 21:11:50 <lpotter> less, that is
Aug 12 21:12:04 <chouimat|work> then say before the end of the year ;)
Aug 12 21:12:06 <RXShorty> heh ok... no problem
Aug 12 21:12:16 <RXShorty> hehe that should be reasonable :P
Aug 12 21:12:23 <lpotter> Q3
Aug 12 21:12:57 <chouimat|work> but but we are in Q3 
Aug 12 21:13:23 <RXShorty> true
Aug 12 21:13:35 <RXShorty> but it takes a some more to reach Q4 ;)
Aug 12 21:13:46 <RXShorty> Well I guess it is done, when it is done 
Aug 12 21:15:17 <lpotter> its never done :)
Aug 12 21:15:48 <RXShorty> heh
Aug 12 21:15:50 <RXShorty> so true
Aug 12 21:15:53 * chouimat|work watches is 4th native compile of an arm based toolchain and want it to finish now
Aug 12 21:17:32 <chouimat|work> ok time to go home 
Aug 12 21:17:39 <RXShorty> heh
Aug 12 21:17:47 <RXShorty> @work... so nice
Aug 12 23:42:59 <chillywilly> hmmm, qtopia was getting REALLY slow so I had to reboot it
Aug 12 23:43:04 <chillywilly> weird
Aug 12 23:43:11 <lpotter> hmm
Aug 12 23:43:41 <chillywilly> I really wish the UI was more responsive
Aug 12 23:44:08 <chillywilly> and that it restored my volume settings and voicemail service number
Aug 12 23:44:51 <chillywilly> redraws the screen a bit slow too
Aug 13 00:12:35 <emacsen> Goddamn, Om makes me want to claw my eyes out!
Aug 13 00:17:52 <chillywilly> why?
Aug 13 00:18:12 <chillywilly> it's not ready for general use that's for sure
Aug 13 00:21:56 <emacsen> it's the worst thing I've ever seen
Aug 13 00:22:23 <emacsen> honestly
Aug 13 00:22:37 <chillywilly> 2008.8?
Aug 13 00:22:44 <emacsen> yes
Aug 13 00:22:50 <chillywilly> yea, it's fugly
Aug 13 00:22:59 <emacsen> it's far, far too slow
Aug 13 00:23:00 <chillywilly> but qtopia drives me nuts in other ways :)
Aug 13 00:23:07 <emacsen> and ugly and makes no sense
Aug 13 00:23:10 <chillywilly> well the application startup sucks
Aug 13 00:23:24 <chillywilly> but the UI one up is more responsive than qtopia proper, IMHO
Aug 13 00:23:30 <chillywilly> once*
Aug 13 00:23:49 <emacsen> well I'm gonna try zhone, then prolly put qtopia back
Aug 13 00:23:56 <emacsen> but qtopia is my refuge
Aug 13 00:23:57 <chillywilly> I think the UI sucks hard though....just saying the qtopia apps seem more responsive
Aug 13 00:24:03 <chillywilly> me too
Aug 13 00:24:13 <chillywilly> I took 2008.8 off and put qtopia back on
Aug 13 00:24:24 <emacsen> tried zhone?
Aug 13 00:24:30 <chillywilly> no
Aug 13 00:24:38 <chillywilly> it's just a test UI
Aug 13 00:25:05 <emacsen> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyfhwVX_8BQ&NR=1  what the heck is that?
Aug 13 00:25:08 <chillywilly> can't imagine it will be very featureful
Aug 13 00:25:32 <emacsen> well if Om is the future, I want to live in the past
Aug 13 00:25:33 <chillywilly> 2007.2
Aug 13 00:25:48 <emacsen> really? I never got it that far, it crashed before then :)
Aug 13 00:25:49 <chillywilly> the gnome mobile UI
Aug 13 00:26:03 <chillywilly> booted fine for me
Aug 13 00:26:11 <chillywilly> the SMS app sucks though
Aug 13 00:26:12 <emacsen> booted for me, just crashed
Aug 13 00:26:21 <emacsen> and was bizzare
Aug 13 00:26:45 <chillywilly> openmoko is kinf of becoming a running joke....
Aug 13 00:26:47 <chillywilly> kind*
Aug 13 00:27:08 <emacsen> yeah :(
Aug 13 00:27:09 <chillywilly> at least the old gnome mobile UI looks decent
Aug 13 00:27:30 <chillywilly> but it's not finger friendly
Aug 13 00:27:38 <emacsen> right
Aug 13 00:27:40 <chillywilly> and I don't want to carry the big stupid pen around with me
Aug 13 00:27:58 <emacsen> you mean the one that's bigger than the phone?
Aug 13 00:28:06 <chillywilly> I just watned stable calls and a nice SMS app for now
Aug 13 00:28:11 <chillywilly> yes
Aug 13 00:28:28 <emacsen> there's a solution to that
Aug 13 00:28:42 <emacsen> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHqdz-g8tQk
Aug 13 00:29:18 <chillywilly> wtf
Aug 13 00:29:36 <emacsen> that's the old Greenphone
Aug 13 00:30:05 <chillywilly> that's not what you linked
Aug 13 00:30:28 <chillywilly> you linked some trigger happy TV skit where a guy answers a phone REALLY LOUD in the library
Aug 13 00:30:33 <emacsen> yeah
Aug 13 00:30:40 <emacsen> his phone is bigger than the pen :)
Aug 13 00:31:17 <chillywilly> heh
Aug 13 00:31:56 <chillywilly> they are just splintering their efforts too much
Aug 13 00:32:05 <chillywilly> too many damn software stacks
Aug 13 00:32:12 <chillywilly> it's confusing
Aug 13 00:33:56 <chillywilly> hah, freeTARDER
Aug 13 00:34:01 <chillywilly> that's a new one
Aug 13 00:34:16 <chillywilly> some nasty comments here -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xReBKNxPy6Y
Aug 13 00:36:10 <chillywilly> too bad qtopia is not that responsive on my stupid phone...wonder if it's defective ;)
Aug 13 00:36:50 <chillywilly> well it's not that bad sometimes it's just certain things that it doesn't respond that well too
Aug 13 00:36:59 <chillywilly> it annoys me
Aug 13 00:37:27 <chillywilly> like when playing mine sweeper it's nearly impossible to "mark" mines ;)
Aug 13 00:37:33 <chillywilly> flag them, rather
Aug 13 00:38:06 <chillywilly> also typing 1 character with the predictive keyboard can be challeging and require multiple taps on the flippin letter
Aug 13 00:39:29 <chillywilly> like I hit "i" and then the predictive thing pulls up the "I" and I have to tap is 6 million times before I can tell it to use that "word"
Aug 13 00:39:41 <chillywilly> irritating
Aug 13 00:39:50 <chillywilly> only take 6 taps or so ;)
Aug 13 00:40:43 <chillywilly> but that's NOTHING compared to how much all Om software I have tried to date sucks
Aug 13 00:40:46 <chillywilly> :P
Aug 13 01:03:15 <emacsen> sorry I'm admiring my new work pic
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