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Oct 09 08:29:39 <BabelO_> morning
Oct 09 08:53:10 <lpotter> evening :)
Oct 09 08:55:44 <pusling> noon
Oct 09 08:55:57 <jreznik> :)
Oct 09 09:15:42 <BabelO_> lpotter: do you have any idea about my problem with keyboard ?
Oct 09 09:16:06 <lpotter> nope. get a new one? :)
Oct 09 09:16:19 <lpotter> what problem is that?
Oct 09 09:16:46 <BabelO_> lpotter: on BA and artemis screen size is 240x320 and virtual keyboard appear at half of the screen :(
Oct 09 09:17:03 <lpotter> which keyboard?
Oct 09 09:19:47 <BabelO_> lpotter: the standard by default
Oct 09 09:20:13 <lpotter> what are you using in QWS_DISPLAY?
Oct 09 09:20:22 <BabelO_> lpotter: yes
Oct 09 09:25:21 <lpotter> do you set mmHeight and mmWidth?
Oct 09 09:57:09 <BabelO_> lpotter: sorry was doing other thing, yes i set all as for qtopia 4.3
Oct 09 10:11:06 <lpotter> hmm
Oct 09 10:11:18 <lpotter> do you have a screenshot?
Oct 09 10:53:36 <BabelO_> lpotter: later i can do it
Oct 09 10:55:13 <lpotter> no problem :)
Oct 09 11:20:59 <tux_freerunner> ciao
Oct 09 11:21:34 <emacsen> it's a little early for ciao, maybe in like 30 mins
Oct 09 11:22:53 <emacsen> not funny?
Oct 09 11:27:41 <emacsen> fair nuff
Oct 09 11:31:07 <Hire> (13:19:10) tux_freerunner: ciao <-- è una chat inglese
Oct 09 11:31:11 <Hire> come quella di openmoko
Oct 09 15:11:09 <mwester> ljp:  fso team will have an official "no-X11" image in OE.  :)
Oct 09 15:11:31 <mwester> ljp:  I now need to work on toolchain generation
Oct 09 15:13:11 <mwester> ljp:  and one trivial item that is still open on my end -- what set of tzdata-* timezone packages does Qt Extended expect to see installed?   (The base tzdata is missing some cities that Qt Extended seems to want)
Oct 09 16:35:58 <malik1972> hi there
Oct 09 16:36:34 <malik1972> are there any news from the qt extended front for instance bug fixed release ...
Oct 09 17:56:48 <lpotter> mwester:it needs all of the tzdata. :) see etc/zoneinfo in the sources.
Oct 09 17:58:07 <mwester> The sum of the sizes of the individual tzdata packages is larger than the qpe timezone package on the download site that you put up, so I wasn't sure.
Oct 09 18:14:51 <abram> rohanpm, hello. can you help me? I'm still working on QSmoothList 18bpp issue and I've almost done. I only need one file
Oct 09 18:24:39 <lpotter> mwester: OE is retarded when it comes to tz packages. they stick zone.tab into the libc package
Oct 09 18:25:20 <lpotter> its retarded to divide timezones into individual packages. who wants just ONE timezone?
Oct 09 18:25:46 <lpotter> like all the friggin module packages
Oct 09 18:26:16 <lpotter> not to mention the waste of storing all those opkg contol files ...
Oct 09 18:31:30 <lpotter> mwester: thats great news about the no-x
Oct 09 18:32:03 <lpotter> i just hope they have a few things qtext depends on, like dbus, bluetooth, etc
Oct 09 18:32:21 <lpotter> i guess dbus is a given with fso
Oct 09 19:47:54 <mwester> lpotter:  If you have a list of all the dependencies, I will make it so.
Oct 09 19:49:52 <lpotter> ok
Oct 09 19:50:34 <lpotter> telepathy and at least gabble would be nice...
Oct 09 19:51:20 <lpotter> ssl, libstdc++
Oct 09 19:51:28 <Tm_T> lpotter: btw as you well know the difference between Qt and Qte will be reduced, so, do you know any timeframe of this?
Oct 09 19:52:53 <lpotter> not sure if differences between the two can be reduced
Oct 09 19:53:10 <Tm_T> some of Nokia fellows promised so
Oct 09 19:53:18 <Tm_T> I'll get you the name (;)
Oct 09 19:53:36 <lpotter> major differences are qte comes with qws and input plugins
Oct 09 19:53:48 <lpotter> like tslib, linuxfb, etc
Oct 09 19:53:54 <Tm_T> ye
Oct 09 19:53:59 <lpotter> other thatn that, they are the same anyway
Oct 09 19:54:08 <lpotter> perhaps you mean qt extended and qt
Oct 09 19:54:08 <Tm_T> Mikko Terho said something towards it
Oct 09 19:54:17 <Tm_T> lpotter: that's exactly what I meant
Oct 09 19:54:37 <Tm_T> Qt extended indeed
Oct 09 19:54:37 <lpotter> well, some libs will get moved into qt
Oct 09 19:55:25 <Tm_T> lpotter: and in the end Qt extended can handle full blown Qt apps?
Oct 09 19:55:25 <lpotter> the qt extended apps and such will become 'reference design'
Oct 09 19:55:35 <Tm_T> I see
Oct 09 19:55:52 <lpotter> well. there will always be QtoiaApplication
Oct 09 19:56:10 <lpotter> it can already handle full blown qt apps, with a ful changes
Oct 09 19:56:17 <lpotter> few changes
Oct 09 19:57:00 <Tm_T> I see
Oct 09 19:57:06 <lpotter> whether QtopiaApplication will essentially become QtApplication I dont know
Oct 09 19:57:15 <Tm_T> lpotter: my goal is in Plasma (;)
Oct 09 19:57:44 <Tm_T> shame I missed some parts of Mikkos talk in tuesday
Oct 09 19:58:08 <lpotter> where was he speaking?
Oct 09 19:58:37 <Tm_T> Openmind, http://www.mindtrek.org/openmind
Oct 09 19:58:50 <Tm_T> I held lightning talk there too, though I failed miserably
Oct 09 19:59:45 <Tm_T> funny moments with Monty Widenius there (:)
Oct 09 20:02:14 <Tm_T> lpotter: on the other issue, gprs works or not work with Qtextended 4.4.1 and Neo FR ?
Oct 09 20:02:42 <Tm_T> it fails here all the time, even if trying over bluetooth (so using other phone ase modem)
Oct 09 20:05:37 <Tm_T> (hmmm, this one says 4.4.2)
Oct 09 20:09:51 <lpotter> mwester: telepathy-sofiasip too :)
Oct 09 20:10:27 <lpotter> I haven tdone anything with gprs
Oct 09 20:11:14 <Tm_T> I see
Oct 09 20:11:53 <Tm_T> wlan works, sorta
Oct 09 20:12:08 <Tm_T> but gprs and proper terminal is missing here (:)
Oct 09 20:15:05 <lpotter> proper term? the one included isn;t good enough?
Oct 09 20:15:10 <abram> lpotter, hello
Oct 09 20:15:25 <lpotter> aep did give me code to a new qterm.
Oct 09 20:15:27 <Tm_T> lpotter: no, have you tried it with ssh -> screen/irssi ?
Oct 09 20:15:41 <abram> i'm trying to make 18bpp device work with qsmoothlist
Oct 09 20:15:45 <Tm_T> it breaks totally
Oct 09 20:15:45 <lpotter> yes, I know it doesnt work for that.
Oct 09 20:16:15 <abram> lpotter, i've recieved a new .cpp file for it from qt-bugs@ support
Oct 09 20:16:20 <Tm_T> also cursor isn't displayed correctly (:
Oct 09 20:16:48 <abram> but it doesn't work (header mismatch) and that guys seems sleeping already :)
Oct 09 20:17:05 <abram> lpotter, can u give me a corresponding file? i want to test it
Oct 09 20:17:50 <abram> the way i gonna fix it is using QT backend for GFX and disable smooth list 'flick' (it's possible in new .cpp file i have)
Oct 09 20:18:52 <abram> another guy's making a native 18bpp fix; I've said it in a mail to qt-bugs@ and i'll inform them when it'll be ready, but i want to make it work now to test 4.4 on a device
Oct 09 20:19:36 <abram> testing gstreamer on 4.4 is one more thing i wanna do, but i can't while it's not working
Oct 09 20:49:30 <abram> lpotter, so?..
Oct 09 20:58:52 <abram> ljp, maybe you?
Oct 09 21:42:35 <wurp2|working> Is there a way to tell qtopia not to look in certain directories for files?
Oct 09 21:42:54 <wurp2|working> e.g. I really don't want to see all the images in my tangogps directory in my picture list
Oct 09 21:45:25 <lpotter> wurp2|working: yes. I changed Storage.conf to look in /media/card/Documents
Oct 09 21:46:30 <lpotter> http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.3/syscust-docstorage.html
Oct 09 21:46:48 <abram> lpotter, can u help me with described before?
Oct 09 21:55:47 <lpotter> not sure I know about bit formats
Oct 09 22:15:02 <abram> lpotter, no, i just need a header file
Oct 09 22:15:15 <abram> only qsmoothlist.h
Oct 09 22:15:54 <wurp2|working> lpotter: Oh, kick ass!  So by default, qtext will not find all the crap out in my /media/card/* structure (except Documents)?
Oct 09 22:16:09 <wurp2|working> I'll just add symlinks for stuff I do want it to find
Oct 09 22:19:54 <lpotter> it shuld ya
Oct 09 22:19:57 <lpotter> should
Oct 09 22:24:12 <wurp2|working> Thanks!
Oct 09 22:41:07 <rohanpm> abram: the qbuild reiserfs bug is fixed
Oct 09 22:42:34 <abram> rohanpm, i'm glad to hear it! when it'll be availible?
Oct 09 22:42:55 <rohanpm> In 4.4.2, a while away
Oct 09 22:43:03 <abram> ok, thanks
Oct 09 22:43:42 <abram> rohanpm, i've talked with qt support at qt-bugs@ and found a solution for 18bpp
Oct 09 22:43:49 <rohanpm> great
Oct 09 22:44:05 <abram> rohanpm, but it's temporary fix
Oct 09 22:44:22 <abram> i'll inform you when the real fix will be ready
Oct 09 22:44:50 <abram> since it's developed by community outside Qt
Oct 09 22:45:22 <BabelO> hello abram
Oct 09 22:45:28 <abram> BabelO, hello
Oct 09 22:46:56 <abram> rohanpm, but I still miss one header file to fix it :(
Oct 09 22:49:40 <abram> rohanpm, whar bout' reiserfs fix patch?
Oct 09 22:54:39 <rohanpm> abram: http://pastebin.ca/1224126
Oct 09 22:59:02 <abram> rohanpm, thanks a lot. maybe you could give me a qsmoothlist.h so I could complete my 18bpp issue?
Oct 09 23:00:15 <rohanpm> abram: what do you mean?  There is a qsmoothlist.h in the source package already.
Oct 09 23:01:16 <abram> rohanpm, I have a new qsmoothlist.cpp from qt support (disabling 'flick' is possible with it), but it doesn't work with .h I have
Oct 09 23:01:34 <rohanpm> abram: do you have a task number?
Oct 09 23:01:54 <abram> rohanpm, they asked me to report how it goes and said it should work; but I can't test it since it's not working
Oct 09 23:02:15 <rohanpm> I'd rather poke whoever gave you the qsmoothlist.cpp file
Oct 09 23:02:28 <abram> rohanpm, my actual task number is closed cause it was 18bpp issue. I'm fixing it in another way
Oct 09 23:02:31 <abram> rohanpm, let's see...
Oct 09 23:17:57 <rohanpm> abram: OK, you should receive a mail soon
Oct 09 23:18:09 <abram> rohanpm, just recieved it, reading
Oct 09 23:18:51 <abram> rohanpm, thanks for a header, i'm going to try it now
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