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Apr 02 03:11:48 * mwester drops an old filing cabinet key in an envelope...
Apr 02 06:47:22 <chen101> hello, I'm newbie in qt, and would like to ask: I have board mini2440 running arm linux (qtopia 1.7.0). I'd like to develop qtopia application for that board. can I use the latest qtopia in my dev environment?
Apr 02 06:47:55 <chen101> (qtopia-opensource-src-4.3.2.tar.gz)
Apr 02 07:19:35 <FilipLinux4> KaraDog: you around ?
Apr 02 07:19:56 <FilipLinux4> KaraDog: what is currently in your GIT ? which patches are included ?
Apr 02 07:20:00 <KaraDog> yes..
Apr 02 07:20:13 <FilipLinux4> or is it a 'clean' import from the original code ?
Apr 02 07:21:29 <KaraDog> not a 'clean' import
Apr 02 07:23:18 <KaraDog> now including following patch:
Apr 02 07:23:41 <KaraDog> ECHO suppression patch
Apr 02 07:24:06 <KaraDog> MediaPlayer .desktop MIME patch for recognize .oga file
Apr 02 07:24:24 <KaraDog> qterminal patch
Apr 02 07:24:36 <KaraDog> qterminal source
Apr 02 07:25:12 <KaraDog> lan-network script patch
Apr 02 07:26:26 <chen101> hi, I have mini2440 arm linux running qtopia 1.7.0, I'd like to develop app for it. Where to download qtopia version 1.7 ? or can I use the latest on my dev environment? (the display looks different).
Apr 02 07:27:03 <KaraDog> patch for Google link in start.html
Apr 02 07:27:47 <KaraDog> patch for neohardware.cpp for correct plug status at startup
Apr 02 07:28:27 <KaraDog> patch for "Power Management" settings to correct number logics
Apr 02 07:28:33 <FilipLinux4> KaraDog: sorry, not sure I understand. Do you have al these patches already applied, or are you importing them one-by-one in the git ?
Apr 02 07:29:06 <FilipLinux4> I thikn adding one-by-one is the best, because it will allow people to cherry-pick the ones they are interested in.
Apr 02 07:31:01 <KaraDog> OK, now because the git repo corrupted yesterday. I resetup it today. First I imported the clean source from qte4.4.3. Then I have all these patches patched together and did one commit
Apr 02 07:34:18 <KaraDog> Well, one by one seems more reasonable..
Apr 02 07:36:08 <FilipLinux4> KaraDog: indeed, some people (like for other, non Neo devices) might be interested in only some of the patches
Apr 02 07:37:43 <KaraDog> FilipLinux4: OK. btw, how to avoid git repo corrupt??
Apr 02 07:39:08 <FilipLinux4> KaraDog not sure; any idea on how it happened ? was it only GIT or a filesystem corruption ? No disk full I hope...
Apr 02 07:39:57 <FilipLinux4> chen101: not sure. 
Apr 02 07:41:05 <chen101> oh ok..
Apr 02 07:42:20 <chen101> actually, I'd like follow the step by step in here: http://www.lucid-cake.net/osx_qpe/index_en.html
Apr 02 07:42:29 <chen101> but seems the source code is no longer available.
Apr 02 07:43:17 <chen101> the qtopia on my board looks similar with the image on that website.
Apr 02 07:43:31 <chen101> but the latest qtopia seems very different.
Apr 02 07:44:21 <KaraDog> FilipLinux4: Storage is enough. Actually I have tried many times today to push the clean source, but in most case I get a object corrupted error.
Apr 02 07:45:03 <KaraDog> chen101: Of course different. Just like the version number.
Apr 02 07:48:37 <chen101> yes, can I get the old version? I didn't find the old version :(
Apr 02 07:54:10 <KaraDog> no idea about that
Apr 02 07:54:31 <chen101> oh ok.. thx anyway :)
Apr 02 08:05:40 <FilipLinux4> chen101: might want to check with lpotter/ljp when he is awake.
Apr 02 08:05:54 <chen101> oh ok.. thx :) 
Apr 02 08:22:02 <ljp> 1.7 hey. hmm.. that will take some digging
Apr 02 08:22:42 <chen101> oh ic.. 
Apr 02 08:23:03 <chen101> the display is really different for the latest version. for developing a simple app, will it compatible?
Apr 02 08:23:23 <chen101> it seems that the latest qtopia is for mobile phone.
Apr 02 08:23:34 <chen101> the board I'm using is more like pda.
Apr 02 08:23:59 <Tm_T> difference?
Apr 02 08:24:29 <chen101> the board I'm using has display like here: http://www.lucid-cake.net/osx_qpe/index_en.html
Apr 02 08:25:02 <chen101> or like here: http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT4063513468.html
Apr 02 08:25:24 <Tm_T> yes?
Apr 02 08:25:27 <chen101> the latest qtopia I'm trying has different display
Apr 02 08:25:41 <chen101> or there's a setting/configuration I'm missing?
Apr 02 08:25:45 <Tm_T> sure it does, what is the problem?
Apr 02 08:26:08 <chen101> can I use the latest version of qtopia to develop app for the old one (1.7 for example)
Apr 02 08:27:18 <Tm_T> no, not really, and wouldn't make sense
Apr 02 08:27:19 <ljp> new qtopia/qtextended is not compatible with the 1.7 series
Apr 02 08:27:28 <chen101> oh ic..
Apr 02 08:27:41 <chen101> the 1.7 series is already depricated ?
Apr 02 08:28:22 <Tm_T> latest release of Qtopia/Qtextended is 4.4 or so
Apr 02 08:28:53 <chen101> yes, I've just tried the version 4.3.2 actually.
Apr 02 08:29:22 <chen101> is there any repository of the 1.7 series on internet?
Apr 02 08:30:37 <ljp> not that I know of, but I can probably find a open source package somewhere and upload it somewhere
Apr 02 08:31:01 <chen101> oh thank you.. I really appreciate that :)
Apr 02 08:31:57 <ljp> might be a few hours or even tomorrow before I can 
Apr 02 08:32:13 <chen101> ok, no problem :)
Apr 02 08:32:24 <chen101> thank you very much
Apr 02 08:32:33 <Tm_T> ljp: your department has anything to do with OVI ?
Apr 02 08:32:52 <ljp> not really too much at this point
Apr 02 08:33:41 <Tm_T> roger
Apr 02 08:34:11 <Tm_T> just got an notify about open vacancy but, MS Windows coding apparently only
Apr 02 08:34:11 <fabc> hi all
Apr 02 08:34:18 <fabc> I'm trying Qt -embedded with directfb plugin
Apr 02 08:34:20 <ljp> ovi is still a work in progress
Apr 02 08:34:29 <fabc> by using this plugin i'm not able to run a qws server application and a qws client application simultanealy
Apr 02 08:34:32 <Tm_T> ljp: indeed it is (:
Apr 02 08:34:38 <fabc> is it possible??
Apr 02 08:35:09 <Tm_T> ljp: that's why I'm kinda interested, but, wouldn't touch W-world too much, after being escaped it this long
Apr 02 08:36:56 <ljp> indeed
Apr 02 08:37:57 <ljp> nokia is still very windows centric
Apr 02 08:38:57 <Tm_T> Finland is
Apr 02 08:41:15 <Tm_T> ljp: part of the reason why we have to start a communitycompany around FLOSS here now
Apr 02 08:41:29 <Tm_T> no companies offering services so no jobs
Apr 02 08:41:59 <Tm_T> well, atleast not in this part of the country
Apr 02 08:47:06 <ljp> one would think that Finalnd would be predominately Linux :)
Apr 02 08:47:36 <Tm_T> indeed, but no
Apr 02 08:47:58 <Tm_T> whole MS-thing is against laws here oftentimes but...
Apr 02 10:05:11 <fabc> is someone trying qtWebkit with qt-embedded and directfb plugins??
Apr 02 10:30:04 <chen101> I got to go offline.. bye everyone.. I'll be online again later. thanks.. :)
Apr 02 12:46:49 <bnovc> FilipLinux4: my vps died yesterday afternoon...http://bnovc.pastebin.com/m733f09c8
Apr 02 12:47:01 <bnovc> I believe that fixes the QMailMessage bug
Apr 02 13:06:40 <bnovc> and now I found a bug in QRegExpMatchState
Apr 02 13:06:47 <bnovc> lots of qtopia bugs popping up for me lately
Apr 02 20:17:10 <FilipLinux4BE> evening all
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