**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 25 02:59:58 2011 Aug 25 03:00:00 anyone ever go stand in line at BB for one? Aug 25 03:00:07 i went sunday Aug 25 03:00:08 I wonder when I should go stand in line... Aug 25 03:00:08 lol Aug 25 03:00:09 i posted an ad on craigslist offering a touchpad for 99. sure, it was with some a-hole on the internet's email address. but whatever ;) Aug 25 03:00:10 was 5 away from a TP Aug 25 03:00:18 damn. what time did you show up? Aug 25 03:00:19 I did they are doing the same thing tomorrow I heard Aug 25 03:00:26 like right when they opened Aug 25 03:00:31 oh I see Aug 25 03:00:32 if i woke up 30 mins earlier i'd ahad one Aug 25 03:00:37 I was gonna show up hours earlier Aug 25 03:00:45 I got there at 630 and there were 2people in front of me Aug 25 03:00:45 but apparently the store had over 400 calls today for one Aug 25 03:00:59 a lot of people wasted gas looking for the touchpad Aug 25 03:01:04 i picked one up today around 7pm at best buy Aug 25 03:01:05 and they have preorders to fill still? Aug 25 03:01:08 lol wowl Aug 25 03:01:37 wow, you're a monster rman1. How could you do that to somebody lol Aug 25 03:02:02 hey flash.. do you see the offer in canadian or us if it's from usa Aug 25 03:02:03 another offer, 240 Aug 25 03:02:07 that sounds like an awesome way to harvest some emails Aug 25 03:02:14 i have it in US funds Aug 25 03:02:16 cuz im dumb Aug 25 03:02:43 Offer price: $4.20 Aug 25 03:02:43 Buy It Now price: Aug 25 03:02:43 $290.00Buy It Now Aug 25 03:02:43 Your terms: R U High! :) Aug 25 03:02:44 LOL Aug 25 03:03:04 lol Aug 25 03:03:14 lol Aug 25 03:03:39 that was me flash.. :) Aug 25 03:03:41 290 is crazy.. i'll let mine go for 270 Aug 25 03:03:41 ive never seen so much action on an auction in less then 15 min Aug 25 03:03:44 HAHA was it Aug 25 03:03:57 jgspeer13 Aug 25 03:04:01 hey flash you should sell that to a dev for cost plus shipping Aug 25 03:04:12 you folks selling the touchpad at retail price are dick heads Aug 25 03:04:13 i have a 2nd one if needed Aug 25 03:04:16 i work at future shop Aug 25 03:04:19 i can get as many as i want Aug 25 03:04:20 i went to the offer screen flash Aug 25 03:04:24 you folks selling the touchpad at retail price are dick heads Aug 25 03:04:26 you folks selling the touchpad at retail price are dick heads Aug 25 03:04:37 1 Aug 25 03:04:38 in billybob Aug 25 03:04:38 and it says There are 5 other buyers making offers on this item. Aug 25 03:04:39 lol Aug 25 03:04:39 lol Aug 25 03:04:39 290 isn't retail brah Aug 25 03:04:45 kb lol Aug 25 03:05:00 Jordan8 you know what i mean brah Aug 25 03:05:17 billybob: Flash is selling it at $290. I'll make you a deal though. I'll let mine go to you for only 249.99. Aug 25 03:05:22 I'm selling my 32gb for $155.76 cause I'm a nice guy Aug 25 03:05:34 is it 32 gb ? Aug 25 03:05:39 @ rman1 Aug 25 03:05:39 lol Aug 25 03:05:59 Your eBay item sold! Aug 25 03:06:00 WOW Aug 25 03:06:01 lol Aug 25 03:06:11 flash67 whatd you sell it for?> Aug 25 03:06:13 smh@ flash67 having a connect and not helping people get a touchpad Aug 25 03:06:14 290 Aug 25 03:06:18 + 15 shipping Aug 25 03:06:20 lol Aug 25 03:06:23 which i'll be able to ship for free Aug 25 03:06:24 25 shipping Aug 25 03:06:26 no cdn Aug 25 03:06:27 flash67 what connect do you have? Aug 25 03:06:27 you are scummy flash67 Aug 25 03:06:29 to US Aug 25 03:06:31 lol Aug 25 03:06:32 no cdn Aug 25 03:06:39 cdn? Aug 25 03:06:40 dude you're kidding me Aug 25 03:06:41 7 uP Aug 25 03:06:48 it said to me: "Shipping and handling: To United States -- US $25.00 -- Standard Int'l Flat Rate Shipping." Aug 25 03:06:56 oh ya Aug 25 03:06:59 flash67 what comes around, goes around. Aug 25 03:07:02 i thought u meant the guy who won it Aug 25 03:07:17 cdn = Canadian I think Aug 25 03:07:23 evulhotdog: "flash67 i work at future shop Aug 25 03:07:23 flash6 i can get as many as i want" Aug 25 03:07:29 ahhh :D Aug 25 03:07:30 billybob: it's a free market. he can do what he wants with it Aug 25 03:07:30 makes sense! Aug 25 03:07:38 we get stock every shipment Aug 25 03:07:40 about 7 of them Aug 25 03:07:44 2 16s Aug 25 03:07:48 5 32s Aug 25 03:07:52 I ordered 3. One for me. I guess I'll have to sell the one I got for my wife! lol more profit in that! Aug 25 03:07:52 WOW Aug 25 03:07:54 he just paid too Aug 25 03:07:56 unreal Aug 25 03:08:00 rman1 yes, but its taking advantage of people whom are obviously not aware that HP sells them for 99 and 149$ Aug 25 03:08:00 lol Aug 25 03:08:13 billybob_: still? Aug 25 03:08:16 i'm sure they are aware. unless you live under a rock you are aware. Aug 25 03:08:24 billybob_: that's the market for you, it's worth whatever someone will pay ;) Aug 25 03:08:39 flash67: an FS in the GTA? Aug 25 03:08:43 tmzt obviously. why the fuck would they be paying close to full price for a $99 bit of hardware Aug 25 03:08:45 no Aug 25 03:08:46 business is business. Nothing personal :) Aug 25 03:09:05 it's a $300 bit of hardware Aug 25 03:09:11 that was sold for $99 Aug 25 03:09:15 its a scummy practice Aug 25 03:09:18 RobbieJ: It's a $322 bit of hardware Aug 25 03:09:21 lol, just got this in email : http://www.ubid.com/auctions/product.aspx?auctionid=603136275 Aug 25 03:09:23 Not denying that at all Aug 25 03:09:34 I thought it was 4 or 500 Aug 25 03:09:38 Alright guys, here is a quote from my Snus can. "Be the person your dog thinks you are" Aug 25 03:09:46 billybob_: so if you buy something for $100 and sell it for $150 at your business that's located 50 miles from where you buy it, that's scummy too? Aug 25 03:10:05 It's not really $99 Aug 25 03:10:12 It's only $99/$149 if you can find it Aug 25 03:10:14 I just don't see how people try to say that scalping is unethical or immoral or whatever Aug 25 03:10:20 $99 + tax Aug 25 03:10:22 which you probably can't right now without a lot of luck Aug 25 03:10:22 furniture no, if its priced within REASON, it is not. but flash sold it for $290 Aug 25 03:10:33 billybob_ people aren't being forced to buy it. People will pay what they see fit, if they don't think it's responable than they won't buy it. Aug 25 03:10:39 billybob_: that's like $200 less than the MSRP. Aug 25 03:10:47 resonable* Aug 25 03:10:48 that's a DISCOUNT. Aug 25 03:10:51 if the entire sotck is sold the price will stabilize over 150, the tab are still worth more Aug 25 03:10:52 ebay fees + paypal fees tho Aug 25 03:10:53 so bs Aug 25 03:10:58 buying low and selling high is called capitalism Aug 25 03:11:05 ^^ Aug 25 03:11:08 furniture: I think the devs should get it. at same price. then after. these people who sell Aug 25 03:11:08 I mean what is he supposed to do? Aug 25 03:11:11 can do w/e Aug 25 03:11:12 Jordan8 you idiot, its because they think its still full price. YOU CANT ASSUME everyone knows they actually sell for $99 and 149 officially from HP Aug 25 03:11:13 Buy it for $99 and sell it for $99? Aug 25 03:11:19 if devs want one, ask me for one Aug 25 03:11:21 i have more. Aug 25 03:11:21 lol Aug 25 03:11:24 lol Aug 25 03:11:25 the free market decides the value Aug 25 03:11:25 flash67: I need one Aug 25 03:11:27 but refusing to let poor people make money is the american way Aug 25 03:11:34 flash Aug 25 03:11:35 billybob_: it's the consumer's job to research the product. Aug 25 03:11:39 Not the salesman's. Aug 25 03:11:40 free enterprise baby Aug 25 03:11:41 your probllem is you are making assumptions, and when your assumptions are wrong you "blame it on buisness" Aug 25 03:11:41 [R]: needs one Aug 25 03:11:45 just cause honda has a sale and you can buy a new honda for 12k and its worth 22k after the sale you still have a car worth 22k Aug 25 03:11:48 SamCripp in #moto-atrix is a developer that has workedo n android a lot Aug 25 03:11:52 all people on the dev team Aug 25 03:11:56 SamCripp: needs one i think too Aug 25 03:11:57 he needs one, he livesi n puerto rico, and wants to help Aug 25 03:12:03 billybob_: you're effectively excusing a stupid person's choice to give someone their money Aug 25 03:12:20 he is legit, he's working on CM7 for the atrix Aug 25 03:12:26 flash67: how many you have? Aug 25 03:12:28 no one puts a gun to your head and forces you to buy a freaking TP Aug 25 03:12:37 it's a gadget Aug 25 03:12:41 an unnecessary gadget Aug 25 03:12:43 im here Aug 25 03:12:48 ^ Aug 25 03:12:50 if it was food or water you'd have ground to stand on but it's not. Aug 25 03:12:57 furniture, im sorry but your argument is weak man. Aug 25 03:12:59 how much u asking for 1 Aug 25 03:13:00 no offense Aug 25 03:13:00 As long as the customer is happy... Aug 25 03:13:08 billybob_: present a logical retort. Aug 25 03:13:11 http://preware.is.awesome.com/ doesn't work Aug 25 03:13:12 It's gotten way to much publicity for somebody to not know, billybob_. Aug 25 03:13:23 and SHE was since SHE paid for it. lol Aug 25 03:13:25 flash67 is swimming in touchpad boxes over there Aug 25 03:13:37 flash67: don't drown Aug 25 03:13:38 no im talking to brick walls, PLUS i have already "present[ed] a logical retort." Aug 25 03:13:53 flash67 you happen to be selling any 16gigs for under 150? i'll buy one if so.. Aug 25 03:13:55 on craigslist there are more ads warning people about potential profit taking than there are ads for TP's. wtf Aug 25 03:14:13 im not wasting anymore time on it. im going to leave it at this: you are clearly taking advantage of uninformed people. PERIOD . Aug 25 03:14:22 grandy: yes it do Aug 25 03:14:25 grandy: I suggest you reread the wiki page on which that is written. Aug 25 03:14:30 people do that all the time billybob Aug 25 03:14:37 heres a pad at a good price. The guy just reduced it 300.00 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-FIVE-5-HP-TouchPad-32GB-Wi-Fi-9-7-Black-/270806216777?pt=US_Tablets&hash=item3f0d4ef049 Aug 25 03:14:45 LOOK AT THIS 100000000% BETTER TV. ITS IN HD! (*720) Aug 25 03:14:56 piiman: LMAO Aug 25 03:14:58 I bet if he emailed these people billybob_, they would be perfectly informed. I was just about tempted to buy one on ebay myself because I didn't feel like going through all the BS you have to, to get it at $150 Aug 25 03:14:59 nice Aug 25 03:15:04 fuck you troll @mgamerz Aug 25 03:15:05 billybob_: the question is, whose responsibility is it to inform them? Aug 25 03:15:26 forget about informing anyone Aug 25 03:15:28 it was 1,999.00 Aug 25 03:15:28 Furthermore, if they are ready and willing to pay the amount you ask, how is it wrong to accept it? Aug 25 03:15:30 if they have the money to spend Aug 25 03:15:38 that means they have the desposable income Aug 25 03:15:45 if they didn't they would have done some research Aug 25 03:15:46 Look at Apple products Aug 25 03:15:57 you're paying way more than the physical hardware is worth Aug 25 03:16:03 billybob_, Since the Touchpad is available for $149, can you please link me to a place I can get it for that? Aug 25 03:16:07 2x more easy Aug 25 03:16:08 For somebody not to know about the price drop, they would literally have had to of not done any research what so ever. It's posted EVERYWHERE. Aug 25 03:16:12 AND the look/research they put into designing a case furniture Aug 25 03:16:16 what you are paying for with an Apple product is the stuff beyond the specs. Aug 25 03:16:29 Which is largely perceived value, not real value Aug 25 03:16:30 flash67 Aug 25 03:16:32 informing them ?? its not YOUR responsibility to inform them as a SELLER. ITS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to price something in a responsible manner. you guys are SHARKS. plain and simple Aug 25 03:16:33 THE HEART AND SOUL furniture Aug 25 03:16:34 you still ehre Aug 25 03:16:35 muwahaaa Aug 25 03:16:40 so an "informed person" might choose a Toshiba or something Aug 25 03:16:55 nothing to do with being a shark Aug 25 03:16:57 I could live with being a shark Aug 25 03:17:00 there is a market value Aug 25 03:17:02 open market Aug 25 03:17:09 and get a higher spec, while an Apple purchaser prefers having AppleCare and OS X. Aug 25 03:17:11 its worth whatever someone will pay Aug 25 03:17:13 blah blah blah Aug 25 03:17:18 lol Aug 25 03:17:20 supply & demand brah Aug 25 03:17:20 :D Aug 25 03:17:22 sounds like someone missed out and they are butthurt about it Aug 25 03:17:30 ^^ Aug 25 03:17:35 furniture: ANSWER me this: if you put an auction on ebay and listed the item as $290.. then in the description said "this item is sold from HP for $99". WHAT DO YOU THINK THE BUYER would do ?????? Aug 25 03:17:37 answer that Aug 25 03:17:41 i dare you Aug 25 03:17:43 billybob_: see, newb made an ad hominem argument, THAT is poor logic :P Aug 25 03:17:44 They would buy it Aug 25 03:17:49 Because it's NOT AVAILABLE from HP Aug 25 03:17:51 billybob_, link me to where you buy it for $99 Aug 25 03:17:53 for $99/$149 Aug 25 03:17:55 I would love to buy more. Aug 25 03:17:58 haha Aug 25 03:17:59 billybob_: depends, can they get it anywhere else cheaper? Aug 25 03:18:10 If not, then they have to decide between having and not having it at the price requested, eh? Aug 25 03:18:18 can we all agree everyone is entitles to their own optionion and this isnt the best place to decide this epic of all arguments, or would you prefer to move onto relgeion or politicions next Aug 25 03:18:21 I've bought things a few bucks higher because of the convenience Aug 25 03:18:23 actually no, i didnt miss out on anything, my shipment has already shipped "newb" Aug 25 03:18:23 billybob_: go bitch at this guy http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-FIVE-5-HP-TouchPad-32GB-Wi-Fi-9-7-Black-/270806216777?pt=US_Tablets&hash=item3f0d4ef049 Aug 25 03:18:29 paid $5 more for a laptop AC adapter recently Aug 25 03:18:39 because it was shipping from a place 60 miles from my recipient Aug 25 03:18:43 Google "touchpad" tell me what it says. Actually, let me tell you what it says, The first link is "HP Touchpad tablet discontinued, goes on sale for $99 and flies .." Aug 25 03:18:48 Make him HAPPY and list it with in the description about HP being 99 bucks. that would be funny as hell when it sells Aug 25 03:18:50 so it was guaranteed to arrive in 2 days or less Aug 25 03:18:52 billybob_ you're avoiding linking us to where you buy it that cheap like the plague. Aug 25 03:18:56 guys Aug 25 03:19:00 Are you saying those people on eBay only looked on eBay first, without going anywhere else? Aug 25 03:19:01 plain and simple YOU GUYS ARTIFICIALLY INFLATING THE PRICE are SHARKS. PERIOD . Aug 25 03:19:10 people pay outrageous for the TP same they pay $1000 for a ps3 on release day Aug 25 03:19:12 yes that would be me Aug 25 03:19:13 bilylbob_: markets are all artificial Aug 25 03:19:14 there are ways to get it cheaper Aug 25 03:19:17 but they pay for convenience Aug 25 03:19:20 just ignore him Aug 25 03:19:23 best way Aug 25 03:19:25 Jordan8 why the fuck would i need to link you to that ? Aug 25 03:19:28 take the money and run Aug 25 03:19:29 artificially inflating? It's already set at that price. Selling it now is selling for market value Aug 25 03:19:31 ire: nah, this is an important thing to talk about, honestly Aug 25 03:19:32 Jordan8 HP.com Aug 25 03:19:33 we could just list a penny auction and let it go up and it would still sell for that amount Aug 25 03:19:37 too few people understand markets and supply/demand. Aug 25 03:19:39 They have no stock on hp.com, billybob_. Aug 25 03:19:40 I only sell TPs at buy price to hot girls Aug 25 03:19:46 billybob_, Looks like it's sold out on HP.com Aug 25 03:19:48 the price was 499-599 the price hasent been inflated....and you never get privet sale what you would get at the store no1 would buy iy Aug 25 03:19:48 Jordan8 OHHH YOU GOT ME !!! Aug 25 03:19:49 next link? Aug 25 03:19:51 I've checked, several hundred times. Aug 25 03:19:55 items are worth what the buyer is willing to pay, plain and simple Aug 25 03:20:03 Jordan8 the website says "COMING SOON" Aug 25 03:20:07 dolt Aug 25 03:20:08 either more or less, rules of supply and demand Aug 25 03:20:17 . Aug 25 03:20:19 It has said that for about a week now. Aug 25 03:20:19 so Aug 25 03:20:22 why would people buy Aug 25 03:20:23 strange. Aug 25 03:20:26 What feels like a week, anyway. Aug 25 03:20:28 from ebay if they can get more form hp.com? Aug 25 03:20:37 if HP had the firesale for 200 they would still fly Aug 25 03:20:37 convenience Aug 25 03:20:38 A Michael Jordan rookie card originally sold for a nickle. Is it mean spirited to sell it for $1000 billybob_ ? Aug 25 03:20:40 i have a few baseball card worth a few hundred, good luck trying to find someone willing to pay that theres no demand Aug 25 03:20:41 if they are unwilling to wait... pay more Aug 25 03:20:43 i dont give a fuck if they are out of stock. the point i am making is you guys are wrong to trick buyers like that. I AM DONE Aug 25 03:20:53 people with $ dont wanna wait Aug 25 03:20:57 they just want the gadget everyone else has Aug 25 03:20:58 ;p Aug 25 03:21:05 Nobody is tricking anybody. The demand is up, so the price rises. Aug 25 03:21:06 why trick? Aug 25 03:21:09 bob its not tricking people Aug 25 03:21:11 no one is tricking anyone Aug 25 03:21:16 It's wrong to call people idiots billybob_ . Yet you are doing that righ tnow Aug 25 03:21:19 some people will pay 300 not to have to deal with sites like onsale Aug 25 03:21:20 to trick someone would be like this Aug 25 03:21:22 calling those eBay people uninformed idiots Aug 25 03:21:23 if the demand lowers, so will the price. go back to middle school man :/ Aug 25 03:21:23 it costs $100 Aug 25 03:21:26 *goes to pay* Aug 25 03:21:28 l Aug 25 03:21:32 i pair more than 150 for my 32 gig but im HAPPY with what i saved off sticker Aug 25 03:21:33 SORRY ITS REALLY 300 AHAHAHAHAHA PAY UP Aug 25 03:21:35 wow, this channel has devolved since I last checked jn Aug 25 03:21:40 in Aug 25 03:21:43 stop checking in then Aug 25 03:21:46 ;p Aug 25 03:21:48 lol Aug 25 03:21:51 this channel sucks I'm sorry Aug 25 03:21:56 furniture you accuratley described the exact same thing you are trying to argue against. lol Aug 25 03:22:24 I'm such a nazi. Aug 25 03:22:26 :) Aug 25 03:22:40 I love you guys, but tone down the aggression. Aug 25 03:22:49 By the way, Touchpad general discussion? Aug 25 03:22:54 It goes to #touchpad. Aug 25 03:22:58 Thanks. Aug 25 03:23:05 you lose Aug 25 03:23:12 lol Aug 25 03:23:13 lol Aug 25 03:23:16 it puts the #touchpad in the browser Aug 25 03:23:16 This isn't a discussion, it's an argument by god. Aug 25 03:23:17 CUT THAT SHIT OUT Aug 25 03:23:20 jk <3 Aug 25 03:23:21 wow i walk off for 30 minutes and the whole channel devolves into touchpad aggro lol Aug 25 03:23:23 power of +m and not being voiced. Maybe you could keep it +m, voice everybody and then just de-voice hte people who are being offensive? :( Aug 25 03:23:29 im selling a graphics card too, anyone want? :) Aug 25 03:23:33 yhaha Aug 25 03:23:37 lol Aug 25 03:23:39 ok, folks. Is the website hosed for anyone else? Aug 25 03:23:40 Logoboy: that's a neat idea, but kicking is simpler. Aug 25 03:23:49 flatspin: which one? Aug 25 03:23:54 rootzwiki Aug 25 03:23:56 actually +b is simpler Aug 25 03:24:03 if they are banned they can't speak Aug 25 03:24:08 Logoboy, or you could just mute the specific person. or ban them Aug 25 03:24:12 Flatspin: which website? Aug 25 03:24:20 rootzwiki dot com Aug 25 03:24:25 yeah it's jacked up Aug 25 03:24:41 Ok, was hoping it wasn't just me. I've been jacking with my computer.. Aug 25 03:24:41 any deb work going on tonight? Aug 25 03:25:06 no deb's not working tonight Aug 25 03:25:15 I'm on rootzwiki right now? Aug 25 03:25:17 it's fine... Aug 25 03:25:24 or you could just push everyone to #touchpad Aug 25 03:25:29 which is the whole point of the diff channels Aug 25 03:25:33 looks fine on my side Flatspin Aug 25 03:25:35 flash67: anymore victims? Aug 25 03:25:43 it's loading normally for me for sure Aug 25 03:25:48 crap, ok now it's fine for me Aug 25 03:25:52 well for anyone that's interested in dev stuff. I write java and scala. not much other embedded work but happy to help if I can to get things to a more capable level than what webOS can offer currently Aug 25 03:25:56 Thanks. Must have been a momentary thing Aug 25 03:26:06 tubes were tied Aug 25 03:26:06 we can talk again Aug 25 03:26:08 l33t Aug 25 03:26:09 meow Aug 25 03:26:16 so far, webos is great Aug 25 03:26:27 neg Aug 25 03:26:45 i think its cs time Aug 25 03:26:45 why is there drama about a fucking os on a device....... Aug 25 03:26:48 We just decided on a new rule for this channel Aug 25 03:27:06 What? Ops shouldnt kick people for stupid shit? Aug 25 03:27:16 nope. for swearing! Aug 25 03:27:28 anyone discussing sale/purchase or posting sale links for touchpads will be kicked, and second time will be banned. Aug 25 03:27:38 Take it to #touchpad Aug 25 03:27:40 yayay Aug 25 03:27:44 or #touchsales Aug 25 03:27:53 Firestar, a cheap ass android tablet? yeah people, myself included, would be stoked for a $99 tablet with hardware comparable to a $300-500 one Aug 25 03:28:11 so why the drama.... Aug 25 03:28:23 Firestar, don't bother asking. Aug 25 03:28:30 there is no drama Aug 25 03:28:31 because people are dumb Aug 25 03:28:36 people just like to express themselves firestar Aug 25 03:28:42 everything is zen Aug 25 03:28:49 lol, nerds just can't go with the flow... Aug 25 03:28:51 over and over! lol Aug 25 03:28:56 gotta show off to teacher XD Aug 25 03:28:59 lololol Aug 25 03:29:00 nerdrage!!! Aug 25 03:29:19 So, is the sale *completely* over now? Aug 25 03:29:24 New topic... NO NERDRAGE IN ROOM Aug 25 03:29:24 wow, i tell this girl i like having sex with her, she replies... you like my sex babe??..... im like yeeeaaa.... i like your sex. Aug 25 03:29:31 Mokbortolan: no Aug 25 03:29:33 <_litz> oh hey, the +m went away ... Aug 25 03:29:35 yay! Aug 25 03:29:36 LOVE IT Aug 25 03:29:40 what's the poop then? Aug 25 03:29:45 where/when, etc Aug 25 03:29:48 they are due for more stock soon Aug 25 03:29:57 guys guys guys Aug 25 03:30:00 I have something scanning the page to cehc for updates Aug 25 03:30:00 I signed up for the notification from HP Aug 25 03:30:01 please one sec Aug 25 03:30:02 :) Aug 25 03:30:07 but I don't have much faith in them for some reason Aug 25 03:30:10 a lot of folks want to come in here Aug 25 03:30:15 and sell their extra tablets Aug 25 03:30:18 i understand Aug 25 03:30:19 Mokbortolan they have thousands of people signed up for that Aug 25 03:30:19 best buy seems to be getting stock also Aug 25 03:30:23 check your local one Aug 25 03:30:25 but one this is not a pplace for sales Aug 25 03:30:26 Mokbortolan just ctrl+f5 the page then Aug 25 03:30:28 I'm afraid their emails will be bottlenecked Aug 25 03:30:29 i wouldn't rely on it what so ever, we've saw what their server can take lol Aug 25 03:30:37 * Mokbortolan plays with his Nook Color quietly. Aug 25 03:30:37 I'm making a #touchsales. Aug 25 03:30:43 <_litz> SamCripp - that needs to be item #1 in the topic then Aug 25 03:30:54 while you at it try making #touchme Aug 25 03:30:58 there. it's made. Aug 25 03:31:03 * Mokbortolan registers A@A.COM Aug 25 03:31:15 it prob does Aug 25 03:31:21 <_litz> something like "No Drama, #touchsales for buy/sell" Aug 25 03:31:28 is kinda sad people want to trow all this money at the t4eam to get android running Aug 25 03:31:44 yet cant cough up one tablet at price or the actual tablet as a donation Aug 25 03:32:04 talented devs spendng their days searching for a device or having to pay twice the sticker price to make something happen Aug 25 03:32:08 <_litz> well, there's serious wants to make $99 worth of tablet worth $500 worth of tablet ... :-) Aug 25 03:32:08 instead of programing Aug 25 03:32:10 heck I was lucky to get my first one tonight Aug 25 03:32:11 new rule Aug 25 03:32:15 is dev a sad day in android comunity Aug 25 03:32:20 how the hell do i topic it Aug 25 03:32:23 its long enough Aug 25 03:32:23 lol Aug 25 03:32:28 <_litz> rhcp -- you using mirc? Aug 25 03:32:31 /t ? Aug 25 03:32:35 irssi Aug 25 03:32:35 :P Aug 25 03:32:36 <_litz> if so, double click the channel window Aug 25 03:32:40 <_litz> oh Aug 25 03:32:48 <_litz> do /topic Aug 25 03:32:52 and I know BBYs truck schedule in my area, days, times and order they stop at the stores Aug 25 03:32:55 err Aug 25 03:32:59 SamCripp: didn't flash say he can get the devs tabs at cost? Aug 25 03:33:17 done Aug 25 03:33:20 i understand flash is selling for twice the price Aug 25 03:33:22 #touchme is made Aug 25 03:33:36 <_litz> I'd actually put your sell statement at the front of the line Aug 25 03:33:41 any OP who sees this rule broken Aug 25 03:33:42 BAN Aug 25 03:33:45 if I had am extra I'd sell it for my cost to a dev... I may have one in hand Friday from my brothers bestbuy Aug 25 03:33:47 no second chances Aug 25 03:33:49 <_litz> most people will only see the first 30-40 characters in the top of their window Aug 25 03:34:09 <_litz> for instance, on my mirc window, the topic ends at "violators will be kicked" Aug 25 03:34:19 most people should basic irc commands like /topic Aug 25 03:34:25 wow i paid over cost for my pad, but not to bad, and im happy to get it the product it worth more Aug 25 03:34:44 we are devs. You guys want android. no tab no android Aug 25 03:34:46 simple a sthat Aug 25 03:34:52 <_litz> well, you look at the build sheet - there's serious hardware under the hood Aug 25 03:34:53 I want more touchpads also but why can't this be a dev channel? Aug 25 03:34:57 get to work rhcp Aug 25 03:35:03 no pad Aug 25 03:35:06 quit bickering in irc Aug 25 03:35:08 I wish I had picked up the other 4 32gigs at 150 each to lend to devs Aug 25 03:35:12 :-) Aug 25 03:35:13 i get remote SSH every now and again Aug 25 03:35:15 to a mates Aug 25 03:35:19 doesnt do much Aug 25 03:35:39 I ordered 2, & got 2. Woulda ordered you guys one, but i figured out of everybody the devs woulda got there orders in lol Aug 25 03:35:42 i woulda lent one if my B&N worder whent through @#@#$ Aug 25 03:35:58 Jordan8, unfortunatly most devs did order Aug 25 03:36:05 but like alot of users Aug 25 03:36:10 we dint get our orders Aug 25 03:36:10 all 5 of my onsale orders got cancelled Aug 25 03:36:11 <_litz> if you haven't been canceled at onsale, there IS a chance yours is already in shipping and they simply lost all your info Aug 25 03:36:14 you can still contribute to the group without the device Aug 25 03:36:14 and ive seen at lease one person selling one at cost in there Aug 25 03:36:22 if anyone goes to a store. we need at least 3-4 for the team Aug 25 03:36:30 by digging through kernel code Aug 25 03:36:30 im sure rootz will cover the costs with the donation money Aug 25 03:36:38 as its for a correct practice Aug 25 03:36:40 best buy stores are selling stock to the nerds who line up this morning Aug 25 03:36:43 buy for us Aug 25 03:37:00 this nerd couldnt find shit at 4 BBs this morning Aug 25 03:37:01 rhcp: i'd have picked up 4 today if i could :( Aug 25 03:37:06 you guys could grab demo units for a little less Aug 25 03:37:14 quick fix Aug 25 03:37:15 my onsale prefer which was placed at 415cst Sunday shipped today Aug 25 03:37:29 same AndroUser Aug 25 03:37:29 prefer should read order Aug 25 03:37:32 i made my order at 5 am on office depot Aug 25 03:37:36 i got no luck Aug 25 03:37:39 cause of the fucking storm Aug 25 03:37:41 well my 32gb was shipped today, 16 a few days ago. Aug 25 03:37:48 im really frustrated by that experience Aug 25 03:37:55 that's just OD Aug 25 03:37:58 I got mine yesterday but im on vacation so i wont get it till tomorrow Aug 25 03:38:00 SamCripp: HP cancled 12 on me! Aug 25 03:38:02 they never keep stock Aug 25 03:38:06 SamCripp: i saw your post on office depot Aug 25 03:38:10 yup Aug 25 03:38:11 one of mine is suppose to come tomorrow Aug 25 03:38:11 SamCripp: report them to BBB Aug 25 03:38:19 i plan on reporting Onsale to the BBB Aug 25 03:38:19 no im stuck waiting on them if they get a return Aug 25 03:38:20 that's useless Aug 25 03:38:23 yea like BBB works Aug 25 03:38:24 lol Aug 25 03:38:28 i used to work for OD Aug 25 03:38:30 i rather bare back a hooker Aug 25 03:38:30 I thought we were done talking about ordering touchpads? Aug 25 03:38:31 in pr we have something worst Aug 25 03:38:34 its call daco Aug 25 03:38:35 they always have 0 stock on everything Aug 25 03:38:38 shouldnt this conversation be in #touchpad? Aug 25 03:38:49 have anything better to talk about? :p Aug 25 03:38:51 its been a decade since I've used irc how do I change my name Aug 25 03:38:54 I like cats Aug 25 03:38:56 and daco will fine 10k for each customer who reports something wrong with your sells during imergency times Aug 25 03:38:57 lets talk bout locked bootloaders Aug 25 03:38:58 Jordan8 how about development? Aug 25 03:38:59 like it is right now Aug 25 03:39:00 in pr Aug 25 03:39:03 try /nick blah Aug 25 03:39:05 crap i sidetracked Aug 25 03:39:10 yeah lets talk about ADB Aug 25 03:39:17 It's sorda related to devlopment evulhotdog, considering we are talking about getting the devs tabs? Aug 25 03:39:25 http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/system/core.git;a=tree;f=adb Aug 25 03:39:28 there's the code Aug 25 03:39:38 Jordan8 but furniture_restin was being anal about it before so we have to follow the rules. Aug 25 03:39:54 who here knows C/C++ ? Aug 25 03:40:07 so for the developers that do have touchpads can we put together some near term objectives? Aug 25 03:40:09 i do Aug 25 03:40:16 buildscientist, what do you need to know. i'm familiar, not necessarily proficient Aug 25 03:40:17 i know c+++ Aug 25 03:40:26 ha Aug 25 03:40:29 I'm bad at kernel deving from scratch, j wish I could've the android kernel to rum from to try a hand at adb Aug 25 03:40:36 thats a lot of pluses ;P Aug 25 03:40:53 gx1400: nothing i haven't written C code in a while Aug 25 03:40:53 im that skilled Aug 25 03:40:54 :p Aug 25 03:41:39 http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/300990_10150354113839602_58407459601_9829294_8175170_n.jpg Aug 25 03:41:50 interesting so they have a dia diagram in there Aug 25 03:42:05 Jordan8: if you are meant to be an organizer here why not get able people to work? Aug 25 03:42:12 SamCripp Aug 25 03:42:16 thats technically planking Aug 25 03:42:17 lol Aug 25 03:42:22 no its not Aug 25 03:42:23 lol Aug 25 03:42:27 planking is horizontal Aug 25 03:42:31 I'm a hardware engineer by interest, software by necessity. I've dabbled in C, C++, Basic, VHDL, VB .Net, and Labview over the last 8 months at my job Aug 25 03:42:51 http://lackingrhoticity.blogspot.com/2010/02/how-to-build-adb-android-debugger.html Aug 25 03:42:56 here's how to build ADB Aug 25 03:43:14 the problem afaik isn't building adb Aug 25 03:43:46 its probably in interfacing with the TP's usb controller Aug 25 03:43:51 which i have 0 knowledge about Aug 25 03:43:53 adb requires some kernel drivers to actual work Aug 25 03:43:56 exactly Aug 25 03:43:57 :P Aug 25 03:44:04 does anyone know what kind of USB controller is on the TP ? Aug 25 03:46:08 on the wiki for creating a kernel, I'm stumped at the create file part... can someone help :-( Aug 25 03:46:25 link ? Aug 25 03:47:07 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv4xjWVqjko&feature=youtu.be Aug 25 03:47:12 http://fzservers.com/touchdroid/index.php?title=How_To_Make_A_Custom_Kernel Aug 25 03:47:23 creating a controller? Aug 25 03:47:25 kernel Aug 25 03:47:38 buildscientist: probably the one in the snapdragon Aug 25 03:47:48 this is my first shot at dev in linux at the kernel level Aug 25 03:47:54 what is the sate of the free wifi driver? Aug 25 03:48:16 <[R]> altimax98: if you are stumped at simple instructions for creating a text file... maybe you shoud'nt be attempting to buidl a kernel Aug 25 03:48:19 so you mean building/compiling a kernel? Aug 25 03:48:19 so i'm an idiot...sitting here watching the prgress on the TP for the 100th time while trying to set up a router in a dorm room...I wanted to increase security on it and unchecked broadcast wireless signal, and now i can't access it at all Aug 25 03:48:22 any ideas? Aug 25 03:48:31 all the drivers are provided Aug 25 03:48:34 except for video Aug 25 03:48:39 video is propietory Aug 25 03:48:42 but they always are Aug 25 03:48:46 altimax98: what step is that? Aug 25 03:48:47 the klernel is alwso provided Aug 25 03:48:51 SamCripp: including wifi? Aug 25 03:48:55 is a thing of patching it CORRECTCLY Aug 25 03:48:58 for android Aug 25 03:49:09 video is tricky Aug 25 03:49:10 i think wifi is in htere yes Aug 25 03:49:12 one sec Aug 25 03:49:24 tmzt - the part under environment Aug 25 03:49:25 video is the 100% most important thing about this build Aug 25 03:49:35 weroj: you don't have a pc? Aug 25 03:49:37 as this driver will mostlikely have to be build from scrtach Aug 25 03:49:46 unless someone wants to pull strings and get us source Aug 25 03:49:50 the thing is audio,wifi,usb all of these have generic drivers that support "most" devices Aug 25 03:49:52 this will mostlikely be Aug 25 03:49:55 the show stopper Aug 25 03:50:06 yeah I do Aug 25 03:50:07 now im speaking from experience building FreeBSD/Linux kernels for desktops/laptops Aug 25 03:50:14 i dunno about embedded so Aug 25 03:50:22 or someone pulls the file from that one running android Aug 25 03:50:25 not the same way homeboy Aug 25 03:50:27 altimax98: cat > /usr/local/pre/setup-env Aug 25 03:50:28 SoC is different Aug 25 03:50:32 that's what I'm typing from now, had to move the ethernet cable over...trying to figure out how to get the router to work Aug 25 03:50:33 paste teh contents of the file Aug 25 03:50:36 press ctrl-d Aug 25 03:50:39 but that fucking bounty has ruined eveything Aug 25 03:51:04 SamCripp: SoC ? Aug 25 03:51:11 altimax98: if you have to mkdir -p /usr/local/pre first Aug 25 03:51:30 buildscientist: system-on-chip Aug 25 03:51:31 all arms processors are SoC Aug 25 03:51:36 system on a chip Aug 25 03:51:39 right Aug 25 03:52:09 so in embedded linux are there generic drivers for common devices? Aug 25 03:52:19 thanks tmzt Aug 25 03:52:32 no Aug 25 03:52:59 there are, but define cmmon devices Aug 25 03:53:01 you could run an sw video driver Aug 25 03:53:07 but no hardware acceleration Aug 25 03:53:13 BTW, another way to make a kernel is: git clone git://git.webos-internals.org/preware/build.git ; cd build ; make toolchain ; cd kernels/uber-kernel-touchpad ; make package Aug 25 03:53:15 and if there is no hardware accelaretion Aug 25 03:53:18 well, you can get 2d accel Aug 25 03:53:20 then dont build android Aug 25 03:53:20 tmzt: audio,wifi (network), disk I/O Aug 25 03:53:23 it be pointless Aug 25 03:53:30 it be lesser than webos Aug 25 03:53:39 +10000 SamCripp Aug 25 03:53:47 same as android on iPhone Aug 25 03:54:00 cool progress with the cpu, but very little in the way of drivers Aug 25 03:54:09 and not usable as an everyday system Aug 25 03:54:10 drivers are difficult Aug 25 03:54:16 even more hard without hardware Aug 25 03:54:19 so we pretty much have to get ARM7 specs ? Aug 25 03:54:26 devs, if people are looking where to buy TPs or sell send them to #touchsales Aug 25 03:54:37 if they're spamming, send them packing. Aug 25 03:54:38 arm7 is completely irrelevant Aug 25 03:54:54 http://opensource.palm.com/3.0.2/index.html Aug 25 03:54:57 drivers and kernel Aug 25 03:55:06 the only thing missing there is pretty much video Aug 25 03:55:12 everything else can be re used Aug 25 03:55:19 which is super lucky for us Aug 25 03:55:49 right Aug 25 03:56:15 did anyone here get a confirmation from onsale ? Aug 25 03:56:21 cuz I just did. Aug 25 03:56:33 get out Aug 25 03:56:35 <[R]> bastard Aug 25 03:56:43 guys be kind Aug 25 03:56:51 i thought for sure that was gonna be cancelled. Aug 25 03:57:01 thats cool Aug 25 03:57:02 good luck Aug 25 03:57:05 anyways Aug 25 03:57:09 ok.. so now i have one for sale Aug 25 03:57:14 anyone here prime with drivers Aug 25 03:57:15 is what i was getting at Aug 25 03:57:15 NitroJunk: lol Aug 25 03:57:24 beesly Aug 25 03:57:26 ok beesley try #touchpad Aug 25 03:57:27 read the topic Aug 25 03:57:34 this channel is for porting android over Aug 25 03:57:41 <_litz> Beesley - I never got any info at all from onsale Aug 25 03:57:53 is anyone actually porting android over Aug 25 03:57:58 yeah I see the topic. Aug 25 03:57:58 yes Aug 25 03:58:01 <_litz> I called macmall today to inquire, and lo 'n' behold, the thing was already shipped and in GA awaiting delivery tomorrow Aug 25 03:58:17 while running the make toolchain I get an error2? Aug 25 03:58:17 guys please take it over to #touchpad Aug 25 03:58:21 <_litz> so some of those onsale orders DID ship, and if you aren't cancelled, you should find out if you got lucky Aug 25 03:58:39 I just figured since this is the dev room, someone here might need one Aug 25 03:58:43 over to touchpad and you can discuss your buying Aug 25 03:58:49 <_litz> SamCripp - is there a 'how-to' to get caught up on what y'all are doing once I have hardware in hand? Aug 25 03:58:50 we do Aug 25 03:58:55 ok then. Aug 25 03:59:04 samcripp needs one Aug 25 03:59:04 but if you could Aug 25 03:59:10 you could contact rhcp Aug 25 03:59:11 2 orders from OnSale just shipped :) Aug 25 03:59:13 understood Aug 25 03:59:15 that makes 3! Aug 25 03:59:17 he be the guy to contact Aug 25 03:59:35 does anyone on the team have any previous android porting experience Aug 25 03:59:41 NitroJunk, i have someone who might be able to get me one Aug 25 03:59:50 and im also waiting on office depot distric manager Aug 25 03:59:50 CoverUps: we all do Aug 25 03:59:55 so im cover for right now Aug 25 03:59:58 If you want this room for dev only convo... it should be muted. Aug 25 03:59:59 the other guys need them tho Aug 25 04:00:00 samcripp: that's awesome Aug 25 04:00:06 to devs only. Aug 25 04:00:10 i need one Aug 25 04:00:13 are you in the north east samcripp? Aug 25 04:00:13 there is a dev only room Aug 25 04:00:14 it was muted earlier Aug 25 04:00:15 Sam: there's a video driver under /lib/modules/2.6.35-palm-tenderloin/kernel/drivers/media/video/gspca on the TouchPad itself called gspca_main.ko Aug 25 04:00:17 and few others need Aug 25 04:00:21 im in puert rico Aug 25 04:00:32 ah poo Aug 25 04:00:37 dethl: thats a precompiled driver can't use that Aug 25 04:00:40 dethl, yes but thats for webos Aug 25 04:00:44 i know the region manager for OD in NE lol Aug 25 04:00:46 functions with webos Aug 25 04:00:51 and will work on webos only Aug 25 04:00:53 darn... Aug 25 04:00:54 SoC Aug 25 04:00:56 <[R]> dethl: that is a webcam driver Aug 25 04:00:58 sailerboy: even if it was generic - we can't use it Aug 25 04:01:01 ire: Im in NC Aug 25 04:01:03 that's the webcam? Aug 25 04:01:04 sam-la hubieses comprado en cotsco el sabado :/ Aug 25 04:01:05 get me one at cost Aug 25 04:01:05 o_O Aug 25 04:01:18 its probably licensed by HP Aug 25 04:01:18 about time we had some damn dev discussion going on in here Aug 25 04:01:21 silencio, mano no chavos Aug 25 04:01:25 me la compro la novia Aug 25 04:01:35 hoy me dieron credito de 350 y me salio en 160 Aug 25 04:01:38 corp runs south east don't know any of them sorry Aug 25 04:01:41 nice Aug 25 04:02:09 so there's no source for the Adreno 220 GPU at all? Aug 25 04:02:15 no Aug 25 04:02:22 we are hoping Aug 25 04:02:27 *fingers crossed* Aug 25 04:02:32 an angel from hp Aug 25 04:02:36 delivers source code Aug 25 04:03:03 it wont come from HP Aug 25 04:03:11 HP licenses it from Qualcomm Aug 25 04:03:23 hmm Aug 25 04:03:28 looks like this project will need quite a few angels to get anything done Aug 25 04:03:29 i gotta call some of my friends there Aug 25 04:03:33 Qualcomm has better lawyers than Apple and HP combined ... Aug 25 04:03:34 take some money and invest in an open adrno driver Aug 25 04:03:59 much more important 'bounty' Aug 25 04:04:07 only one angel Aug 25 04:04:13 anyone of us can put android on fbdev Aug 25 04:04:37 ive got an error I can't figure out. make [1]: curl: command not found? Aug 25 04:04:40 if any DEV's want devices at cost i may have 10 of them comming from my favorite vendor who got me 3 when there were "none". Depending on if they get a cut of the last shipment that is suppose to be coming in. Aug 25 04:04:45 altimax98: install it Aug 25 04:04:48 the alternative is we try to 'reverse engineer' the existing video drivers Aug 25 04:04:49 apt-get install curl Aug 25 04:04:50 ? Aug 25 04:04:55 or use wget Aug 25 04:04:58 yes with ida Aug 25 04:05:00 crack open that assembler and start doing through it Aug 25 04:05:03 or some other decompiler Aug 25 04:05:05 frustrated talk to rhcp Aug 25 04:05:12 THANKS! Aug 25 04:05:12 SamCripp: me too Aug 25 04:05:14 disassembler rather Aug 25 04:05:23 im going to bed soon Aug 25 04:05:24 rhcp is good at this stuff Aug 25 04:05:30 LOL :) Aug 25 04:05:30 frustrated: see pm Aug 25 04:05:31 omg tmzt Aug 25 04:05:38 rhcp: <- is the man Aug 25 04:05:42 yea i re'ed soo much stuff Aug 25 04:05:44 its not funny Aug 25 04:05:44 lol Aug 25 04:05:45 furniture_restin: <— also the man Aug 25 04:05:57 match up pm4 against the ati radeon driver Aug 25 04:06:01 good too see work and love in this room Aug 25 04:06:01 to start with Aug 25 04:06:05 keep it up guys Aug 25 04:06:09 see if the cs packets are similar enough Aug 25 04:06:09 i received 3 but gave them away already.... i didnt have any idea that the dev's didnt already have devices Aug 25 04:06:11 ^^ Aug 25 04:06:14 i still have one Aug 25 04:06:20 get some damn tris Aug 25 04:06:39 we even have tire to document stuff Aug 25 04:06:47 frustrated, unfortunatly a lot of us dev ended up on the "cancelled" order bandwagon Aug 25 04:07:09 SamCripp: you don't need your own hardware for this part Aug 25 04:07:20 soembody does to get the dumps Aug 25 04:07:31 but the main work is interpreting them Aug 25 04:07:32 says here there's an Adreno SDK Aug 25 04:07:34 not sure if it's free Aug 25 04:07:42 so is everyone under the assumption that the youtube videos are bullshit? Aug 25 04:07:57 frustrated: they could be fbdev Aug 25 04:08:01 or they could be nothing Aug 25 04:08:03 http://developer.qualcomm.com/forums/qdevnet-forums/graphics-optimization-adreno Aug 25 04:08:06 why is that [][][] on the screen Aug 25 04:08:21 it's irrelveant, nobody has gotten drivers for the adreno that work with this kernel Aug 25 04:08:24 is the screen wrap still on? Aug 25 04:08:25 thats the packaging Aug 25 04:08:35 i didn't know you could use the touchscreen with that on still... Aug 25 04:08:36 not the drivers buildscientist Aug 25 04:08:38 they can either be ported from an HTC (which I think rwhitby rejected) Aug 25 04:08:41 or rewritten Aug 25 04:09:07 what is fbdev? Aug 25 04:09:14 framebuffer device Aug 25 04:09:32 the memory mapped character device on linux that cooresponds to the screen Aug 25 04:09:41 I used mine no problems with the factory plastic mgamerz Aug 25 04:09:46 giant fbdev face! Aug 25 04:09:47 oic Aug 25 04:09:48 tzmt ur part of team douce right? Aug 25 04:09:53 *douche Aug 25 04:09:53 no Aug 25 04:09:54 lol Aug 25 04:09:55 nope Aug 25 04:10:01 hes a friend from G2 days Aug 25 04:10:05 ah ok Aug 25 04:10:06 we helped to get the g2 rooted Aug 25 04:10:10 thats right Aug 25 04:10:17 i knew i knew u from somewhere Aug 25 04:10:24 ok, help a newb then what is a frame buffer device? Aug 25 04:10:25 don't remember you viny, sorry Aug 25 04:10:33 frustrated: google :) Aug 25 04:10:35 frustrated: video output Aug 25 04:10:41 or wikipeidi Aug 25 04:10:41 a Aug 25 04:10:55 it buffers the video frame until it can be scanned out by the hardware Aug 25 04:11:01 i observed Aug 25 04:11:43 a frame like a chunk of data - or in videos case 1 image from hundres/1000's of other images that make up the video Aug 25 04:11:58 yea i gotcha now Aug 25 04:13:22 so just for the idiot here.... <--- ie me. webOS is just a customized linux distribution no? Aug 25 04:13:33 frustrated: on your linux computer Aug 25 04:13:35 yes and no Aug 25 04:13:35 yes Aug 25 04:13:35 c0ns0le: not quite Aug 25 04:13:36 sudo -s Aug 25 04:13:47 cat > /dev/urandom > /dev/fb0 Aug 25 04:13:47 c0ns0le, linux is the kernel Aug 25 04:13:51 so think of linux as 1 layer Aug 25 04:13:52 do that at a console, not x Aug 25 04:13:53 yes Aug 25 04:13:56 unlike popular believe Aug 25 04:14:02 SamCripp: yeah hence i stated 'distribution' not kernel. Aug 25 04:14:08 linux is a layer and webOS sits on top of it Aug 25 04:14:18 but too call it custumise is wrong Aug 25 04:14:22 guys i'm not a terribly innept idiot lol.. i do hold an rhce. Aug 25 04:14:23 layer diagrams make things more confusing Aug 25 04:14:23 as linux still down there Aug 25 04:14:24 off topic but does keeping the touchpad on the touchstone after its fully charged hurt the battery? Aug 25 04:14:26 untouch Aug 25 04:14:37 webos its a shell that uses the linux kernel Aug 25 04:14:42 c0ns0le: lol Aug 25 04:14:44 especially those that have hardware + drivers + kernel + user + input/output Aug 25 04:14:46 like android is a shell that uses the linux kernel Aug 25 04:14:48 like ubuntu Aug 25 04:14:49 like inception ? Aug 25 04:14:50 and so on Aug 25 04:14:54 yep Aug 25 04:15:11 it was more of a lack of understanding for the underneath, i know its running linux as the core. just curious as to whast on top of it. Aug 25 04:15:12 its like running X ontop of linux Aug 25 04:15:14 or better yet Aug 25 04:15:20 webos seems to be a port of a xserver or something. Aug 25 04:15:23 ihazardroid: Nope Aug 25 04:15:26 buildscientist: yeah that was my thought. Aug 25 04:15:26 like running a desktop environment on top of X ontop of linux Aug 25 04:15:37 lol is it xorg? Aug 25 04:15:42 Connor1, http://opensource.palm.com/3.0.2/index.html Aug 25 04:15:43 maybe a bad port of X11R6 Aug 25 04:15:47 i don't think so Aug 25 04:15:51 c0ns0le, Aug 25 04:15:52 http://opensource.palm.com/3.0.2/index.html Aug 25 04:15:57 was joke again. ... k so i'll quit w/ the jokes. Aug 25 04:16:01 you guys are too serious. Aug 25 04:16:17 c0ns0le: after what we've been through. esp me. we dont take well to jokes Aug 25 04:16:17 atm Aug 25 04:16:35 _cough_ rhcp i again understand... Aug 25 04:16:36 yeah Aug 25 04:16:48 need to feed you more hotpockets and redline. Aug 25 04:16:52 err monster. Aug 25 04:16:55 and close the door. Aug 25 04:16:56 so are the different devs working together on this deal? i.e. cyanogen or the likes? Aug 25 04:16:56 last night was like a replay of Dynasty + General Hospital Aug 25 04:16:57 ;) Aug 25 04:17:00 i honest wish i could drink it Aug 25 04:17:11 due to anexity disorder i cant Aug 25 04:17:15 any news in what android central plans for the android-touchpad? Aug 25 04:17:16 frustrated, well im not particularly part of the team Aug 25 04:17:22 i purchased a pad Aug 25 04:17:33 and figure i help with anything they might need help with Aug 25 04:17:37 c0ns0le: neither android nor webos are X Aug 25 04:17:46 i actually currently working on porting cm7 to atrix Aug 25 04:17:48 * ihazandroid has a pad Aug 25 04:17:48 from source Aug 25 04:17:59 not the hex editing people call "porting" Aug 25 04:18:01 both are graphics servers built over top of the linux kernel Aug 25 04:18:16 tmzt: going to post your android X stuff Aug 25 04:18:16 :P Aug 25 04:18:18 sam takes credit for porting cm7, but we all know kholk has done the real work Aug 25 04:18:25 lol ^ Aug 25 04:18:31 oh god Aug 25 04:18:34 !quote kholk Aug 25 04:18:36 o wait Aug 25 04:18:38 rhcp: it's been on github Aug 25 04:18:40 we dont havea bot Aug 25 04:18:42 :P Aug 25 04:18:43 tmzt: eh nice. not heard it explained that way. always thought of it as a 'framework' considering apk's are more ike jar files, thought it was some java framework. Aug 25 04:18:44 is sad i know Aug 25 04:18:45 I'm just not doing a website for it Aug 25 04:18:50 my touchpad better ship tomorrow Aug 25 04:18:59 i'm new to the dr01d devel, just not linux part. Aug 25 04:19:05 c0ns0le: part of android is what I'm referring to Aug 25 04:19:09 android is based on java Aug 25 04:19:14 apk is basically jar Aug 25 04:19:34 and jar is zip Aug 25 04:19:39 and zip is exe Aug 25 04:19:40 hello Aug 25 04:19:43 and exe is binary Aug 25 04:19:44 war is tar Aug 25 04:19:47 and binary is sexy Aug 25 04:19:49 mmmmmmm Aug 25 04:19:54 guessing ipk's are simimlar as well. Aug 25 04:19:58 and ipk needs to be apk :-) Aug 25 04:20:00 yes Aug 25 04:20:22 ipks are just a file system inside a zip Aug 25 04:20:31 pretty much some htl and javascript Aug 25 04:20:34 heh.. this is really strange. my wifes 32gb runs faster than mine w/o any patches or new kernel. Aug 25 04:20:35 as far as i udnerstand Aug 25 04:20:48 whiskey tango foxtrot over. Aug 25 04:21:06 is webOS suppose to be slow? it seems slow Aug 25 04:21:14 webOS is slow Aug 25 04:21:19 it needs polished Aug 25 04:21:20 c0ns0le - mine is faster then my wifes too Aug 25 04:21:22 yeah, it's designed to be as slow as possible. Aug 25 04:21:29 lol Aug 25 04:21:32 SamCripp: htl? Aug 25 04:21:35 oh Aug 25 04:21:37 no Aug 25 04:21:46 ipk's are no zipped, they are ar'd Aug 25 04:21:48 it def wasnt design to be slow Aug 25 04:21:51 but it needs polish Aug 25 04:21:52 i like how wired did the article saying webos ran faster on a hacked ipad 2 Aug 25 04:21:52 wish i'd have picked up the 64gb versions w/ the 1.5's Aug 25 04:21:54 are there any devs here that arent currently tied to a development project? Aug 25 04:22:00 damned cdw deleted em out of my cart Aug 25 04:22:01 none the less i rather keep the touchpad webos Aug 25 04:22:07 and make a player Aug 25 04:22:10 it needs more apps Aug 25 04:22:17 they also are a package format originally used in familiar on the itsy I believe Aug 25 04:22:37 samcrisp: thats what i'm working on Aug 25 04:22:39 it's only on webos that some ipk's are javascript, they are also the native package format of the system Aug 25 04:22:39 <|Jason8|> c0ns0le: flash the uberkenel Aug 25 04:22:40 <|Jason8|> same thing Aug 25 04:23:00 Rotorooter, whats your current progress Aug 25 04:23:01 |Jason8|: already doing. mine already had it. Aug 25 04:23:04 make a player? Aug 25 04:23:08 |Jason8|: adding govnah as well. Aug 25 04:23:19 <|Jason8|> aye. Aug 25 04:23:30 <|Jason8|> the 1.5ghz had the same exact processor Aug 25 04:23:35 <|Jason8|> just a different kernel Aug 25 04:23:35 Quick question for any dev here, how did you guys get into this? Where do you start? Aug 25 04:23:43 I guess that is two questions... Aug 25 04:23:50 google Aug 25 04:23:50 Finec, school Aug 25 04:23:52 honestly? Aug 25 04:23:57 Finec: That's what I'm wondering too Aug 25 04:23:59 I bought a vibtant. i couldnt get a refund Aug 25 04:24:00 and boredom Aug 25 04:24:02 it sucked! Aug 25 04:24:05 i wanted to make it better Aug 25 04:24:12 they did it for sex. tons and tons of hot internet sex. Aug 25 04:24:16 Finec: watch/learn/think/read/research/apply Aug 25 04:24:16 wound up learning Aug 25 04:24:19 touchpad Wireless is a fucking piece of junk. I hardly can use anything internet on it. Always just times out and I have dozen other devices that would work fine but this touchpad seams to have the worst wireless conectivity ever not sure if its a faulty device or what Aug 25 04:24:23 Finec being locked in an underground basement with no windows Aug 25 04:24:32 Finec: 25+ years of ASIC hardware and embedded software development experience. But you can start with less. Aug 25 04:24:43 my WiFi is great Aug 25 04:24:45 haha I still have my Vibrant Aug 25 04:24:48 mine too Aug 25 04:24:55 did you do any updates or this from the box? Aug 25 04:24:55 rwhitby: what asic hardware? Aug 25 04:25:03 but i come from a major reverse eng backround Aug 25 04:25:05 and whatnot Aug 25 04:25:06 rwhitby, very impressive Aug 25 04:25:11 so it comes sort of natural Aug 25 04:25:17 tmzt: I architected the Motorola PowerQuicc 2 MPC8568. Aug 25 04:25:21 how many years of experience? Aug 25 04:25:30 tmzt: s/2/3 Aug 25 04:25:31 rwhitby: that stuff they use in cisco?? Aug 25 04:25:39 yep Aug 25 04:25:41 i stayed at a holiday inn express, ? Aug 25 04:25:41 lol Aug 25 04:26:02 Kane, no WiFi stuff that I know of Aug 25 04:26:11 samcripp: Well I know what parts of dalvik can be straight moved over and what has to be recoded / translated... trying to organize a dev team since my c & java is a bit rusty Aug 25 04:26:46 * buildscientist has a ton of respect for embedded system programmers Aug 25 04:26:48 k. so another quesiton. cfq scheduler in preware, guessing this is simply a module? someone's compiled against the source? Aug 25 04:27:08 Rotorooter: pick your approach, you have the everything ealvik needs, swap out the graphics backend to render to a buffer, blit (gl) to a card Aug 25 04:27:16 c0ns0le: sure, the patch is in our repo Aug 25 04:27:19 that would be one android app per card Aug 25 04:27:35 that would be awesome Aug 25 04:27:50 rwhitby: right, was a question. the app == ipk which is just a kernel module extracted and insmodded? Aug 25 04:27:51 it would be a reimagining of the android codebase, similar to the phantom port to ubuntu Aug 25 04:27:58 but isn't there concerns in using dalvik? Aug 25 04:28:02 c0ns0le: no no no Aug 25 04:28:24 c0ns0le: sorry, that spcific ipkg might be Aug 25 04:28:31 ipk Aug 25 04:28:45 polardude: concerns lie what? Aug 25 04:28:52 polardude: it's under teh bApache license Aug 25 04:28:58 tmzt: presuming anything that is downloadable is likely to simply be a kmod or .so which cna be insmodded. Aug 25 04:29:11 Rotorooter, http://www.myriadgroup.com/Device-Manufacturers/Android-solutions/Alien-Dalvik.aspx Aug 25 04:29:29 ah, then it was bullshit... in the clear Aug 25 04:29:43 honestly i dunno why i give a shiz about webOHnos anywho. i'd wrather see emerge on that bad by. Aug 25 04:30:14 what concerns? legal or technical? lol Aug 25 04:30:22 polardude: if you are talking about patents taht more of a problem for google themselves Aug 25 04:30:31 c0ns0le: so install gentoo embedded Aug 25 04:30:40 tmzt: tempting.... Aug 25 04:30:49 c0ns0le: what specific package are you referring to? Aug 25 04:30:51 Rotorooter, tehcnycly you are facing a pretty hardcore chanllenge Aug 25 04:30:56 rhcp: nm. Aug 25 04:31:00 err rwhitby nm. Aug 25 04:31:02 that's probably what it was Aug 25 04:31:13 c0ns0le: the funtoo guy is already working with us on a gentoo chroot Aug 25 04:31:23 Rotorooter, legally, as long as opracle dont come after you for dalvik reverse engenerring you are okay Aug 25 04:31:34 whats so hard about a chroot? Aug 25 04:31:39 nothing Aug 25 04:31:41 ldd cp... Aug 25 04:32:02 who said it was hard? Aug 25 04:32:27 samcripp: thats essentially exactly what i'm trying to do but from what I know alien dalvik is closed source and oem only Aug 25 04:32:30 rwhitby: noone. was just antagonizing. Aug 25 04:32:42 aight wife is hollering. Aug 25 04:32:51 something about i have to be to work in 4hrs. Aug 25 04:32:55 holler back Aug 25 04:33:01 NItroJunk_: lmfa0 yoh. Aug 25 04:33:01 c0ns0le: ah, ok. good luck with the antagonizing thing ... Aug 25 04:33:09 rwhitby: tis my goal. Aug 25 04:33:13 yo wife, not now Aug 25 04:33:17 rhcp: i'll keep the eyes open Aug 25 04:33:23 c0ns0le: thanks for giving me the heads up Aug 25 04:33:25 srsly. Show her who is boss Aug 25 04:33:33 i sold my nook color for more then i paid for it today Aug 25 04:33:34 wip it out on her Aug 25 04:33:38 WiredNix: i have 4tp's i did. Aug 25 04:33:40 paid for my 32 gig touchpad + more Aug 25 04:33:43 err 3now. Aug 25 04:33:43 woot! Aug 25 04:33:52 l8tr. Aug 25 04:34:18 lol Aug 25 04:34:27 Men: 0 Women: 1 Aug 25 04:34:38 technically it really doesnt look too horrible since a good amount of dalvik seems straight portable Aug 25 04:36:15 sup guys. missed the meeting, but saw the pastebin Aug 25 04:36:22 hola Aug 25 04:36:25 . Aug 25 04:37:09 pastebin eh? Aug 25 04:39:10 http://groups.google.com/group/android-platform/msg/a177b156d338c513? Aug 25 04:40:54 <{DV8}> Ìû Aug 25 04:41:10 Hey, does anyone have a extra touchpad for sale here? I ported linux to my pda few years back and this android port seems like a fun challenge =) Aug 25 04:42:47 #touchpad I thinkanalysis Aug 25 04:43:20 rhcp will sell you some Aug 25 04:43:46 analysis001 whatever you do dont buy from EBAY, a bunch of kiddies will try to rip you off Aug 25 04:44:31 thanks, ill ask in the chan. Aug 25 04:45:12 fuck Aug 25 04:45:27 did newegg start refunding? Aug 25 04:46:03 not sure "dont buy from ebay" is a useful thing to say... more "don't overpay for a dead product" Aug 25 04:46:04 looks like their stock is gone Aug 25 04:46:08 http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1191832.html Aug 25 04:49:12 how's process coming? Aug 25 04:49:18 what can I help with? Aug 25 04:49:53 not many people around PatrickC_TP Aug 25 04:50:12 litdroid: there are over 350 people in here Aug 25 04:50:15 #touchpad and #touchsales there are people talking Aug 25 04:50:19 that seems like its a few people to me Aug 25 04:50:19 but that's it mostly Aug 25 04:50:31 well no one talking Aug 25 04:50:42 do you have a status update? like how far we've gotten? Aug 25 04:51:01 well to the public, it's not far Aug 25 04:51:08 who's in charge? I forget.. Aug 25 04:51:15 "to the public" Aug 25 04:51:17 anyone with a @ Aug 25 04:51:23 Status: don't ask about the status Aug 25 04:51:37 apparently the kernal is running but minimal Aug 25 04:52:10 that's good Aug 25 04:52:18 I remember running android on my Pre- Aug 25 04:54:40 https://outbackfreesteaks.com/ Aug 25 04:55:08 $100 tablet and a FREE steak? Aug 25 04:57:52 tmzt: good read... made me feel good because I know its possible... but made me wanna cry when I realized the basic consensu ix Aug 25 04:59:02 consensus is anything is possible with a massive team money and time* Aug 25 04:59:34 http://mjfrey.blogspot.com/2009/05/hacking-android-on-ubuntu.html Aug 25 04:59:50 I'm curious what he means by hello world, i guess he means console Aug 25 05:00:30 dang even the roadkill got up there Aug 25 05:00:30 heh Aug 25 05:00:39 * Sexbarril pokes roadkill and wonders if it is safe to eat Aug 25 05:01:11 hello world is the most baisc of basic aplications Aug 25 05:01:23 all it does is output "hello world!" Aug 25 05:02:53 ? for devs..will there be an issue with the screen size? Aug 25 05:03:33 yep , it should be at least a 19in screen :) Aug 25 05:03:53 and have straps to carry it on my back... Aug 25 05:04:30 why not? Aug 25 05:04:34 it would r0x Aug 25 05:04:50 why would the screen size be an issue? Aug 25 05:05:03 IDK thats why i ask Aug 25 05:05:22 thinking of apps and such.. Aug 25 05:05:30 hmm, full screen must be fbdev, just under glibc Aug 25 05:05:35 holy Shit you just made my day! I didn't even think about running an android emulator in ubuntu which already runs in webos! Aug 25 05:05:38 that's whay there was no code released Aug 25 05:05:41 wilki: I know Aug 25 05:05:42 @BrynaAtHP Bryna Corcoran Aug 25 05:05:42 Passing the torch. Please direct all further inquiries regarding #TouchPad sale to @markathp and @hpdeals Aug 25 05:05:48 just passing the word Aug 25 05:06:05 anyone found a decent IRC client for webOS yet? Aug 25 05:06:13 wirc Aug 25 05:06:39 wilki: I was trying to see if he had graphic apps working Aug 25 05:06:42 looks like no Aug 25 05:07:17 wIRC is great Aug 25 05:07:23 so webos will emulate ubuntu which wil emulate android? Aug 25 05:07:34 wouldnt that make it incredibly sluggish? Aug 25 05:07:40 is it on webos market? Aug 25 05:07:49 <|Jason8|> altimax98: for IRC on the touchpad? Aug 25 05:07:59 prepare srgaudio Aug 25 05:08:00 yes Aug 25 05:08:01 <|Jason8|> it makes cards for each channel :( Aug 25 05:08:03 preware Aug 25 05:08:08 its in preware Aug 25 05:08:12 <|Jason8|> and is awful for more than 4 or 5 channels Aug 25 05:08:28 <|Jason8|> and doesn't respond to server force-join commands Aug 25 05:08:39 needs an update for portrait mode keyboard tho Aug 25 05:09:08 puffthemagic said they are updating some stuff soon Aug 25 05:09:18 <|Jason8|> woot Aug 25 05:10:03 <[R]> Sexbarril: uh... running ubuntu on the touchpad isn't emulation... Aug 25 05:10:41 it's chroot. different beast. Aug 25 05:11:04 true true Aug 25 05:11:07 my mistake Aug 25 05:11:27 heh look at you roadkill ... sporting the @ :p Aug 25 05:12:19 what can I say? I have good technique. Aug 25 05:13:01 do a little dance then Aug 25 05:13:03 let's see it Aug 25 05:13:36 heh Aug 25 05:13:42 twist on the downstroke roadkill? Aug 25 05:13:50 o.o Aug 25 05:13:56 do a sexy barrel roll Aug 25 05:14:07 * litdroid is kinda drunk. Aug 25 05:14:36 ...perverts. Aug 25 05:16:09 http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/frameworks/base.git;a=blob;f=core/java/android/view/WindowManager.java;hb=HEAD Aug 25 05:16:30 what's the link for tmzt? Aug 25 05:17:02 Rotorooter's method Aug 25 05:17:13 ah I see Aug 25 05:17:20 is it usable? Aug 25 05:17:28 I honestly have no clue that's why I ask Aug 25 05:17:39 for porting? don't know yet Aug 25 05:17:52 haven't dug into wm before Aug 25 05:18:11 I see. Aug 25 05:20:04 dumb question: would using the webos->ubuntu->android allow testing of hardware drivers more easily? Aug 25 05:20:40 no Aug 25 05:20:50 it will jsut be a frustartion in pointlessness Aug 25 05:20:59 you still need emulator ported to arm Aug 25 05:21:12 qemu arm on arm is faster (should be) if it can run code natively Aug 25 05:21:21 no because the emulator tricks the android Os into thinking it has hardware it doesnt have Aug 25 05:21:28 and it wuld be displaying to X on a card Aug 25 05:21:58 Rotorooter: you following that git file? Aug 25 05:22:11 yea.. itz Aug 25 05:22:32 its alotta code to read through * Aug 25 05:22:50 any chance to get dalvik running under libc like in the ubuntu blog? Aug 25 05:23:06 it won't do much but it will demnstrate it's possible Aug 25 05:23:22 basically, this method works like this Aug 25 05:23:32 get dalvik running on glibc Aug 25 05:23:37 (on arm) Aug 25 05:23:40 that should work Aug 25 05:24:14 2. get a shim to libsdl from the android wm backend using an offscreen buffer Aug 25 05:24:35 3. get parts of the framework ported to get a basic android app without system services Aug 25 05:24:54 4. make 2. work with gl instead Aug 25 05:25:12 at this point it would be android apps all on one card with no system services Aug 25 05:25:30 and will still require kernel patches, but no drivers Aug 25 05:26:07 phandroid.com/2009/05/27/what-if-ubuntu-could-run-android-applications-it-can/ Aug 25 05:26:30 just goes back to that blog post Aug 25 05:26:32 no bode Aug 25 05:26:37 code Aug 25 05:26:41 that I can find Aug 25 05:27:30 _ Aug 25 05:28:16 no that article shows that someone already got android apps to run natively in ubuntu Aug 25 05:28:34 the closed one? Aug 25 05:28:42 what are they using? Aug 25 05:28:56 isn't there a rip of dalvik Aug 25 05:29:22 not a rip but someone has duplicated it for other arch Aug 25 05:30:17 sarky1: yes alien Calvin Aug 25 05:30:28 Dan auto correctt Aug 25 05:30:35 damnit! Aug 25 05:30:46 that's the one Aug 25 05:30:49 haha Aug 25 05:31:00 wo Aug 25 05:31:02 this might not be too bad Aug 25 05:31:07 alien dalvik Aug 25 05:31:07 lol Aug 25 05:31:08 just replace eg1.0 with sdl calls Aug 25 05:31:18 can't imagine it's that simple though Aug 25 05:31:47 http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/frameworks/base.git;a=blob;f=core/java/android/view/ViewRoot.jav | | a;h=c58207ee99995e637882acdc5851acd6ec613543;hb=ded2b00643c788a96ce8adc1a4cc0f7619a4c606 Aug 25 05:32:00 http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/frameworks/base.git;a=blob;f=core/java/android/view/ViewRoot.java;h=c58207ee99995e637882acdc5851acd6ec613543;hb=ded2b00643c788a96ce8adc1a4cc0f7619a4c606 Aug 25 05:32:03 that article does not seem so enlightening and quite old at least for android Aug 25 05:32:19 android hasn't changed that much pre 3.x Aug 25 05:34:28 what's that viewroot meant demonstrate? Aug 25 05:34:38 back Aug 25 05:34:46 hey can I get hooked up with a +v :P Aug 25 05:34:58 just kidding - im just happy to see some real tech/dev discussions here Aug 25 05:49:06 Ok. Gone again for another 10 hour binge. What did I miss? Aug 25 05:49:30 everything.... again Aug 25 05:50:14 i just sold a used 32 GB TP for 300 lol Aug 25 05:50:45 ban Aug 25 05:50:50 why cant I find a single article or site after 2009 with info on the ubuntu distro with native android app support...? was it never publicly released? Aug 25 05:51:55 rotorooter: http://crashcourse.ca/content/android-emulator-ubuntu-1004-60-seconds Aug 25 05:52:02 ? Aug 25 05:52:17 nah thats an emulatkr Aug 25 05:52:26 emulator* Aug 25 05:52:51 emu! Aug 25 05:53:17 oooh, gotcha Aug 25 05:53:18 teenage muntant zombie turtles Aug 25 05:53:29 there was a custom distro with native app support that I found videos and articles about but I cant find the Dan distro Aug 25 05:53:41 damn* Aug 25 05:55:28 Rotorooter: Because Ubuntu dropped ARM support after 9.04 Aug 25 05:56:03 Getting Ubuntu on ARM after that version requires a bit of work, mostly using the Debian packages Aug 25 05:56:29 ubuntu dropped ARM Aug 25 05:56:32 windows picked it up Aug 25 05:56:33 good ole debian, I used to dual boot Aug 25 05:56:34 no Aug 25 05:56:40 Gskellig: Kinda funny, isn't it? Aug 25 05:56:56 to bad I don't remember anything from it Aug 25 05:57:11 doesn't backtrack5 do ARM still? :D Aug 25 05:57:26 shiiiittttt well wouldnt a pre 9.04 release run on TP with the arm support? Aug 25 05:58:10 bt5 + touchpad = epic hacker toy Aug 25 05:58:32 true, but the wireless chipset probably wont do what you want Aug 25 05:58:43 no Aug 25 05:58:44 now Aug 25 05:58:53 it won't Aug 25 05:58:56 use the microusb port for a wardriving antenna Aug 25 05:58:59 win Aug 25 05:59:04 drivers would be nearly impossible to get working Aug 25 05:59:09 not for usb Aug 25 05:59:21 that could work Aug 25 05:59:25 the tablet have usb host mode? Aug 25 05:59:26 he has a point Aug 25 05:59:28 it was called 'android execution environment' and everything seems to say it died in 09 Aug 25 05:59:35 true Gskellig Aug 25 05:59:38 who knows Aug 25 06:00:06 that would be amazing. Aug 25 06:00:16 I would totally pay for that Aug 25 06:00:29 how does the keyboard work though..... hmmm Aug 25 06:00:34 bluetooth Aug 25 06:00:38 i mean Aug 25 06:00:38 I wonder if its possible to get a hold of a copy..... Aug 25 06:00:41 without that Aug 25 06:00:48 i meant osk Aug 25 06:00:58 it has to be on the tubes somewhere Aug 25 06:01:03 you would have to build one in Aug 25 06:01:10 and it would probably suck Aug 25 06:01:30 its sad the battery on the tablet is larger than my netbook Aug 25 06:02:08 webhostbudd, you sure? in watt-hours? Aug 25 06:02:14 thats unlikely Aug 25 06:02:33 especially since I think cylindrical cells are more efficient than prismatic Aug 25 06:03:31 Prismatic.. Aug 25 06:03:37 That's a good word to google. Aug 25 06:03:37 you may have a point there Aug 25 06:04:15 "having such symmetry that a general form with faces cutting all axes at unspecified intercepts is a prism" Aug 25 06:04:22 yeah.. wtf? Aug 25 06:04:31 do they run at a lower voltage? Aug 25 06:04:37 i dont have specs on the battery Aug 25 06:04:43 i would guess similar to a phone Aug 25 06:04:44 3.3v Aug 25 06:04:56 WiredNix, square, or flat. like cell phone batteries Aug 25 06:04:57 wheras the netbook i believe is up at 9v Aug 25 06:04:59 so yea Aug 25 06:05:01 no... if you get it running in a card than on screen keyboard still works Aug 25 06:05:04 volts doesnt matter Aug 25 06:05:08 its watt hours Aug 25 06:05:11 yes Aug 25 06:05:17 might be rated in kilowatt hours (kWh) Aug 25 06:05:18 but they measure in mAh Aug 25 06:05:25 sometimes they do that Aug 25 06:05:28 all you need is volts Aug 25 06:05:30 thats retarded Aug 25 06:05:32 lol Aug 25 06:05:34 yes Aug 25 06:05:37 you need volts and mAh Aug 25 06:05:42 mhmmm Aug 25 06:05:45 precisely Aug 25 06:05:48 but they all give mAh Aug 25 06:05:52 lame Aug 25 06:05:55 so that isnt the issue Aug 25 06:06:05 im just guessing volts because i dont have batteries on hand Aug 25 06:06:13 i just know my android device runs at 3.3cv Aug 25 06:06:16 3.3v* Aug 25 06:06:37 3.3v is a fairly average low charge voltage for a single lithium ion cell Aug 25 06:06:45 i wouldnt think usb would run well as a host at that voltage Aug 25 06:06:52 since it can draw up to 5v Aug 25 06:06:58 it looks like they merged parts of the BuBu tu ker Aug 25 06:07:00 cylindrical cells can get up to 4.2v when fully charged, but they're usually closer to 3.5 nominal Aug 25 06:07:06 kk Aug 25 06:07:11 true webhostbudd Aug 25 06:07:13 ubuntu kernel* Aug 25 06:07:28 im guessing they run in series though Aug 25 06:07:32 boosting the voltage Aug 25 06:07:43 and the android kernel together Aug 25 06:07:46 for a tablet? Aug 25 06:07:48 nah Aug 25 06:07:49 laptop Aug 25 06:07:51 oh Aug 25 06:07:53 definitely Aug 25 06:07:59 i mean Aug 25 06:08:00 lots of laptops are like 9 or 15v i think Aug 25 06:08:06 they practically need 9-12v out Aug 25 06:08:10 haha Aug 25 06:08:11 yes Aug 25 06:08:24 sec, i have a battery here Aug 25 06:08:29 but i was going to say for a tablet having host mode Aug 25 06:08:34 yea Aug 25 06:08:41 you need some good voltage Aug 25 06:08:42 i don't know how much space it would take to have a little upvolt converter in there Aug 25 06:08:46 yes Aug 25 06:09:01 alright Aug 25 06:09:10 my laptop is 6000mAh at 11.1v Aug 25 06:09:19 11.1v at full capacity im guessing Aug 25 06:09:23 droid 1 batt says 5.1/5.3 Wh (watts/hr) Aug 25 06:09:30 kk Aug 25 06:09:30 well Aug 25 06:09:48 66Wh here Aug 25 06:09:50 on laptop Aug 25 06:10:07 no surprise Aug 25 06:10:08 damn we're nerdy Aug 25 06:10:09 simple math Aug 25 06:10:11 lol Aug 25 06:10:15 =D Aug 25 06:10:21 66Wh is pretty good for a netbook Aug 25 06:10:22 105 CT talking about batteries and watts and volts Aug 25 06:10:37 yes, i got the mega battery on the aspire one Aug 25 06:11:40 webos uses ext3 correct? Aug 25 06:11:56 i hope not Aug 25 06:12:02 do they have journaling disabled? Aug 25 06:12:26 just figured cause its on the linux kerne; Aug 25 06:12:44 do they use nand modules? Aug 25 06:13:41 its a shame they goofed and didnt put in an sd card slot Aug 25 06:13:51 that would just be win Aug 25 06:14:09 better yet didn't put android on it :-) Aug 25 06:14:24 who cares for android on their tp Aug 25 06:14:26 o wait Aug 25 06:14:31 hahaha #touchdroid Aug 25 06:14:31 there was a lot over looked :-) Aug 25 06:14:32 =p Aug 25 06:14:34 hahaha Aug 25 06:14:49 not even sure why im here Aug 25 06:14:52 lol Aug 25 06:14:55 id rather have ubuntu or something Aug 25 06:14:59 a nice kde wouldnt be bad Aug 25 06:15:04 have you seen honeycomb? Aug 25 06:15:10 only a little Aug 25 06:15:17 ubuntu is not a tablet OS Aug 25 06:15:26 I'd LOVE to see ubuntu on the TP Aug 25 06:15:32 unity is aiming at being a tablet DE though Aug 25 06:15:36 by design Aug 25 06:15:43 but practically, i'd rather see honeycomb Aug 25 06:15:43 kde is moving there Aug 25 06:15:44 thats true Aug 25 06:15:53 hows gnome3 looking for tablets? Aug 25 06:15:59 i saw the kde demos, they looked slick Aug 25 06:16:04 http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&safe=off&biw=1212&bih=679&q=micro+usb+male+to+usb+female+adapter&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=10265585890684664956&sa=X&ei=mudVTqyfNYWLsQKB-ciuDA&ved=0CI0BEPMCMAI could that help loading from usb thumbdrive like microsd slot? Aug 25 06:16:17 for $70 I can buy a 95Wh battery for my ultralight laptop Aug 25 06:16:20 ehhhh Aug 25 06:16:22 I already get like 8 hours Aug 25 06:16:34 depends on the status of the usb adapter Aug 25 06:16:35 my friend listed his 32gb on eBay - brand new...let me know if you wanna link Aug 25 06:16:42 has anyone done research on it? Aug 25 06:16:45 I found the guys that designed the android execution environment... gonna see if theyd be willing to give me a copy to see if it can be run on the touchpad like regular ubuntu already does Aug 25 06:16:53 i dont have my tp so not a whole lot i can do Aug 25 06:16:58 same here Aug 25 06:17:03 I don't think I'll be getting mine anytime soon either Aug 25 06:17:11 expansys-usa status is "Awaiting stock" Aug 25 06:17:11 id drop to a shell in a heartbeat if i could Aug 25 06:17:12 =/ Aug 25 06:17:13 but nope Aug 25 06:17:23 dFshadow: ooh promoting :-) Aug 25 06:17:24 i have the cover and keyboard though lol Aug 25 06:17:40 dFshadow policy in this channel is if you're selling go to #touchsales Aug 25 06:17:45 mattseg, check out monoprice Aug 25 06:18:07 O_O Aug 25 06:18:12 rotorooter: it was for ubuntu 9.x, not sure if that's an issue Aug 25 06:18:16 my order should have shipped already Aug 25 06:18:18 it will be no time Aug 25 06:18:19 gskellig: ok Aug 25 06:18:28 i love the packaging hp does for these products Aug 25 06:18:46 very high end, apple looking Aug 25 06:18:51 wait until you see the touchpad box Aug 25 06:18:59 bad or good? Aug 25 06:19:18 its good Aug 25 06:19:26 yes Aug 25 06:19:33 looks just like keyboard and case Aug 25 06:19:35 wonderful Aug 25 06:20:32 just watched an unboxing Aug 25 06:20:36 i almost dont want to open it Aug 25 06:20:39 I ordered one of the cheap cases before they discounted the HP stuff, I went to Wal-Mart to get one and those wankers want full price still Aug 25 06:20:45 I thought the box was a ream of paper when I first saw it Aug 25 06:20:50 not sure but even if it is it gives an outline over how to make it wkrk Aug 25 06:20:51 practically the same size, too Aug 25 06:21:04 work with a newer distro* Aug 25 06:21:54 <_litz> the size and weight is similar to a ream of paper Aug 25 06:22:01 im sad they are killing this thing Aug 25 06:22:04 I got a cheap targus ipad case and stretched the corners lol Aug 25 06:22:18 rotorooter, I'm liking your plans much more than a full port Aug 25 06:23:34 i just wish someone would sell an open source tablet Aug 25 06:23:41 a solid one Aug 25 06:23:46 not even open source Aug 25 06:23:49 that sounds weird Aug 25 06:23:56 an open platform rather Aug 25 06:24:10 So are you saying run it with ubuntu being just the conduit, or really running ubuntu that can run android apps... get what I'm saying? Aug 25 06:24:43 yes Aug 25 06:24:50 i dunno Aug 25 06:24:53 yea alotta people love webos so why give it up if you can have the best of both worlds Aug 25 06:25:02 i feel like webos could be great if hp would just opensource it Aug 25 06:25:17 would ubuntu just be there to make it work, still run android launcher and the like, or ubuntu with apps that happen to be android Aug 25 06:25:19 yeah but getting the dev backing on ISO android and ano Aug 25 06:25:31 there is ain't likley Aug 25 06:25:40 i know Aug 25 06:26:01 i just want a tablet i have control over Aug 25 06:26:03 <[R]> webhostbudd: that's assuming they own all of the IP in it Aug 25 06:26:11 <[R]> webhostbudd: which is probably not the case Aug 25 06:26:14 [R]: i was about to mention that Aug 25 06:26:17 and i agree Aug 25 06:26:21 aggree Aug 25 06:26:29 I agree would be nice Aug 25 06:26:34 lol Aug 25 06:26:34 yes Aug 25 06:27:02 lets do it haha Aug 25 06:27:04 a geeksphone tab? Aug 25 06:27:10 yes Aug 25 06:27:17 * Sarky1 throws HP touchpad at bin Aug 25 06:27:38 good idea... but too much of a niche market :/ .... speaking of is geeksphone still alive? Aug 25 06:27:48 it is a niche market Aug 25 06:27:50 i know Aug 25 06:27:55 thats the problem Aug 25 06:28:11 its hard to expect good design / hardware for something that is barely going to sell Aug 25 06:28:20 but im sure it would do better than the touchpad Aug 25 06:28:22 yep Aug 25 06:28:36 the scale of manufacturing is what makes these things somewhat affordable.. even having to pay for marketing. The TP is just a 'deal' that came from a perfect storm Aug 25 06:28:37 there is a market for a device like that Aug 25 06:28:46 mhmm Aug 25 06:28:58 im not worried about affordability though Aug 25 06:29:01 holy shit one of the guys who co developed the androidexecution environment only lives a couple hours from me Aug 25 06:29:14 stalk him Aug 25 06:29:33 take youllbestick with you Aug 25 06:29:33 night guys, good luck :) Aug 25 06:30:07 <_litz> [02:25] the scale of manufacturing is what makes these things somewhat affordable.. <-- there's a lot of thinking that the upcoming rumored amazon tablet will take a cue from this and price out around $150 or less. Aug 25 06:30:35 Rotorooter: wheres that by Aug 25 06:31:27 _litz, but i doubt it will be very good Aug 25 06:31:36 i mean, i dont mind paying money for a quality tab Aug 25 06:33:39 hes in rochester ny... i'm in deleware Aug 25 06:33:45 county Aug 25 06:37:01 NItroJunk_: I bet if you rang it up at register it would of not been full price. Wal-Mart was cheapest of all retailers I had bb price match em. Aug 25 06:37:23 would have Aug 25 06:37:34 :| Aug 25 06:37:42 *grammar Nazi* Aug 25 06:37:54 I ran it in one of the scanners, I'm sure they would have price matched someone else Aug 25 06:38:14 NitroJunk: sup with the name? Aug 25 06:38:42 all my friends call me nitrous junkie lol Aug 25 06:39:23 o Aug 25 06:39:45 hrm Aug 25 06:39:51 thats healthy lol Aug 25 06:39:51 fucking colloquy Aug 25 06:40:10 not that nitrous, nitrous for your car Aug 25 06:40:29 obviously Aug 25 06:40:42 :P Aug 25 06:40:48 lol Aug 25 06:41:40 uh oh Aug 25 06:41:51 Nah. Just a cleaned up version of an existing one. Aug 25 06:42:07 qq. when the tp is booted off recovery, is the tp running off a recovery kernel and initramfs? or does it use things from the lvms? Aug 25 06:48:17 c0ns0le|away: talking about through novacom? Aug 25 06:48:52 tmzt: just trying to figure out how 'webdoc' works. Aug 25 06:48:59 can i ask a question Aug 25 06:49:05 cai: you just did. Aug 25 06:49:10 sorry Aug 25 06:49:39 then can I ask 2 more questions? Aug 25 06:50:06 you can ask one. Aug 25 06:50:09 <[R]> 2 more in addition to the new question you just asked? Aug 25 06:50:28 I want to install ubuntu on my touchpad, I could not find novacom Aug 25 06:50:32 where is it? Aug 25 06:50:35 <[R]> on the internet Aug 25 06:50:42 yes Aug 25 06:50:51 right, I know on internet Aug 25 06:50:56 I found virtualbox Aug 25 06:51:00 but not novacom Aug 25 06:51:12 <[R]> what does virtualbox have anythign to do with it Aug 25 06:51:48 what does novacom have to do with jt? Aug 25 06:52:14 it is a guide on line Aug 25 06:52:21 cai: novacom is in the SDK, or can be downloaded separately. ask in #webos-internals for a friendlier reception. Aug 25 06:52:32 ok thanks Aug 25 06:52:45 c0ns0le|away: um, you probably have dnsmasq running so the ns is right Aug 25 06:53:09 c0ns0le|away: ask those things in #webos-internals questions about doctor etc. Aug 25 06:53:26 tmzt: yeah i didn't think it was too terribly pertinent to this chat. Aug 25 06:53:30 tmzt: appologies. Aug 25 06:54:04 c0ns0le|away: but don't try antagonism in there, cause it won't be tolerated ;) Aug 25 06:54:12 rhcp: lmfa0 Aug 25 06:55:08 frustrating the sh|t oudda me, can't get the wife's tp to connec to hp catalog., so off to learning how to troubleshoot these damned devices. Aug 25 06:55:28 http://www.grabi.org/2011/08/23/install-ubuntu-linux-on-hp-touchpad-tablet-how-to-guide/ guide to ubuntu install enjoy Aug 25 06:56:10 step one.. router plugged in? lol Aug 25 06:56:12 Rotorooter: that article is out of date Aug 25 06:56:40 Rotorooter: nice.... thats the kicker, web works fine. Aug 25 06:56:54 Rotorooter: so though k. nscd/resolv.conf/etc/hosts. iptables etc... Aug 25 06:57:11 c0ns0le|away: ? Aug 25 06:57:18 hey Aug 25 06:57:22 i've restored back to 3.0.0 and same issue. Aug 25 06:57:25 trying to apply kernel patchg Aug 25 06:57:30 damn Aug 25 06:57:34 i'm just an idiot. Aug 25 06:57:36 doesn't apply cleanly, any fix? Aug 25 06:57:45 it applies ver yclean Aug 25 06:57:53 learn to patch :) Aug 25 06:57:56 lol so much for them trying to help... http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-TouchPad-32GB-running-Android-/230664585087?pt=US_Tablets&hash=item35b4ae3f7#ht_500wt_898 Aug 25 06:58:08 womp womp Aug 25 06:58:10 err, how am i doing it wrong? Aug 25 06:58:24 i untarred the kernel, i "patch < ../kernelpatch-3.0.2.txt" Aug 25 06:58:28 on ubuntu Aug 25 06:58:58 i should drive up there and beat him. Aug 25 06:59:12 TheSpeedster is he really in Dallas? I think it's a scam. Aug 25 06:59:41 dunno, its the one in from the original youtube video Aug 25 06:59:52 Holy long topic. Aug 25 06:59:55 TheSpeedster even the pic doesn't show the one from the video. Aug 25 07:00:29 TheSpeedster I would be very sceptical, ask him to post a pic of it from a smartphone containing location information. Aug 25 07:00:40 lol, :git apply" Aug 25 07:00:49 could've told me Aug 25 07:01:12 either way we'll finally find out if its real or not... Aug 25 07:01:24 there's two i know of Aug 25 07:01:32 one sent to androidcentral, the other on ebay right now Aug 25 07:01:34 Liao in the device info it even says "operating system: webos" people are morons and this guys gonna make bank because of it Aug 25 07:01:42 mmm tenderloin Aug 25 07:04:00 Rotorooter yeah, once they go to paypal, paypal will say "did it ship? was it delivered? if yes, case closed" and he'll be left with a very expensive webos touchpad. ;-) Aug 25 07:04:31 shit i should get android working on this thing and then sell the one to you guys Aug 25 07:04:48 theres no reason it should be hard Aug 25 07:04:56 lol more than it even was before the fire sale lol Aug 25 07:05:03 craptain go ahead, be our guest. ;-) Aug 25 07:05:19 well, why is it hard? Aug 25 07:05:34 do you have a kernel booting with a ramdisk? Aug 25 07:05:46 craptain android is more than a kernel, you know. Aug 25 07:05:49 eh Aug 25 07:05:56 jesus... Aug 25 07:06:01 not too much Aug 25 07:06:11 someone will do it, but probably not someone who thinks it is easy. Aug 25 07:06:22 so, you have adb working yet? Aug 25 07:06:33 that is just a kernel Aug 25 07:06:35 and a ramdisk Aug 25 07:06:44 craptain I have adb, but no touchpad. ;-) Aug 25 07:06:45 thats the hold up right now, kernel boots i believe but they have no adb support yet. Aug 25 07:06:48 no "android", whatever that is Aug 25 07:06:51 craptain it arrives today. Aug 25 07:06:55 if it was easy it would be done already Aug 25 07:07:01 well how are you booting the kernel? Aug 25 07:07:09 nah people are just noobs Aug 25 07:07:18 craptain I never said I did. Aug 25 07:07:35 so...kernel boots? what does that mean Aug 25 07:07:39 webos boots a kernel too Aug 25 07:07:50 android has a specific format for it's boot.img Aug 25 07:07:51 * rwhitby chuckles Aug 25 07:07:53 using it? Aug 25 07:08:14 means it ends in a command prompt, it boots. thats all i really know. im not a dev Aug 25 07:08:46 rwhitby little things like device drivers are nothing, all we need is a kernel. ;-) Aug 25 07:09:00 umm Aug 25 07:09:08 most drivers live in kernel Aug 25 07:09:24 yep, most do. Aug 25 07:09:25 craptain sure, but are there touchpad drivers yet? Aug 25 07:09:29 sure Aug 25 07:09:32 webos uses them Aug 25 07:09:41 they may not export android interfaces though Aug 25 07:09:43 craptain those are closed source. Aug 25 07:09:46 nah Aug 25 07:09:58 does it use lkms? Aug 25 07:10:11 they're also closed source Aug 25 07:10:28 the only loaded lkm is ar6000 Aug 25 07:10:34 the wifi Aug 25 07:10:48 craptain maybe the drivers are monolithic in webos. Aug 25 07:10:50 all other drivers must be open if they are in kernel mode Aug 25 07:11:01 umm, that's not how linux works Aug 25 07:11:18 accelerated graphics will be a bitch Aug 25 07:11:27 craptain sure it is, check "y" instead of 'm" in config Aug 25 07:11:44 if y is checked, that code lives in kernel Aug 25 07:11:46 kernel is open source Aug 25 07:11:52 therefore driver is open source Aug 25 07:11:59 heh Aug 25 07:12:11 never mind that now Aug 25 07:12:17 adbd needs no drivers Aug 25 07:12:25 rwhitby you don't think palm/HP is doing a GPL violation? Aug 25 07:12:27 except the generic android adb usb gadget Aug 25 07:12:39 no excuses for that not working Aug 25 07:12:59 EdLin: plenty of closed source kernel modules exist. no-one has been sued for one that doesn't use a GPL_EXPORT symbol. Aug 25 07:13:07 i'm off to bed gotta pick up the girl at the bus stop in the am Aug 25 07:13:23 but webos only loads ar6000 Aug 25 07:13:25 rwhitby yeah, that's what I thought. Aug 25 07:13:30 do an lsmod Aug 25 07:13:46 EdLin: you hearin anything bout this hurricane? Aug 25 07:14:03 really, it might be easier to port adbd to support gadgetfs Aug 25 07:14:04 Tommy supposed to hit NC and NE or something. Aug 25 07:14:10 it's not a major change from novacom Aug 25 07:14:11 gadgetfs? Aug 25 07:14:16 yeah, we're supposed to get hit on sunday Aug 25 07:14:17 Tommy probably will dump rain in NY Aug 25 07:14:23 i live right by the beach, so hurricanes are a big deal here Aug 25 07:14:30 creates a filesystem that can define an usb device Aug 25 07:14:36 tb? Aug 25 07:14:37 gotta move the cars to the bayside, we have water come all the way up our block a lot of the time Aug 25 07:14:45 (a lot of the time, see: 3-5 times in my life) Aug 25 07:14:46 Tommy: where? Aug 25 07:14:49 but we did lose a car Aug 25 07:14:51 DanielC|Mac: NYC Aug 25 07:14:56 lol Rockhopper gadget Aug 25 07:14:59 whack Aug 25 07:15:34 whack? Aug 25 07:15:43 hurricanes Aug 25 07:15:47 = whack Aug 25 07:15:47 oh, right. Aug 25 07:15:49 mac is wack Aug 25 07:16:05 both the team, and the phenomenon Aug 25 07:16:07 LO Aug 25 07:16:10 :P * Aug 25 07:16:13 TRUTH Aug 25 07:16:17 at least we both hate miami, i respect that. Aug 25 07:16:19 * Tommy is an FSU fan Aug 25 07:16:29 i go to UF Aug 25 07:16:30 :) Aug 25 07:16:33 * Tommy facepalms Aug 25 07:16:39 LOL Aug 25 07:16:43 Tebow is hood, i'll give you that. Aug 25 07:16:53 * EdLin is a UNC fan, but it's hard to root for their football team, unlike their b-ball. Aug 25 07:16:54 we got good talent now Aug 25 07:16:58 people hate on him all the time and it's hilarious to me, he's a great guy and a great player, how the hell can you not root for him Aug 25 07:17:04 as long as u arent an OSU queer ur ok Aug 25 07:17:12 EdLin: yeah, i feel that way about the knicks and rangers, hard to be a fan Aug 25 07:17:33 go Heat tho Aug 25 07:17:36 Tommy mom and dad and my sister went to UNC, among other relatives. Aug 25 07:17:39 wade county Aug 25 07:17:40 LOL HEAT Aug 25 07:17:53 none of them played ball for them tho. ;-) Aug 25 07:17:57 lol heat? first year playing together and they get to the finals Aug 25 07:18:08 god webos is terrible Aug 25 07:18:08 yeah, and they got whipped Aug 25 07:18:14 #sportstalk Aug 25 07:18:18 webos is cool Aug 25 07:18:23 of course you're going to get to the finals, you signed everyone on the free agency list that was worth signing Aug 25 07:18:25 all ppl going crazy Aug 25 07:18:26 port android Aug 25 07:18:30 not for doing anything real Aug 25 07:18:33 the ubuntu style is good Aug 25 07:18:38 when you don't have to tactically build your team, it's easy to win in the regular season Aug 25 07:18:39 webOS is not terrible, why do you say that ? Aug 25 07:18:42 like even ereader support is really bad Aug 25 07:18:50 make android app emulator Aug 25 07:18:53 but when you get whipped by a 40 year old german and his ghetto smurf sidekick... Aug 25 07:19:20 that guy is sick though Aug 25 07:19:23 and stock file and media management Aug 25 07:19:35 yes, dirk and JT are both sick Aug 25 07:19:43 fuck JT Aug 25 07:19:45 and everyone in the US (outside florida) was rooting for them Aug 25 07:19:46 dirk is sick Aug 25 07:19:51 JT should've won MVP for the finals Aug 25 07:19:58 he was SO clutch, even in games where dirk faltered Aug 25 07:20:19 lebron was nowhere to be found Aug 25 07:20:21 (please note: i am not a mavs fan and have no bias towards them or jason terry) Aug 25 07:20:25 lol, no shit, just like on the cavs Aug 25 07:20:37 gets to the finals, disappears, cries about not having a team then goes to miami with 2 all stars Aug 25 07:20:39 fucking bosh was pretty clutch Aug 25 07:20:43 then, with an all star team, disappears again. Aug 25 07:20:46 but holy shit i wanted to slap lebron Aug 25 07:21:01 you know what's funny, i was a HUUUUGE lebron fan when he was in cleveland Aug 25 07:21:02 dwade is the man tho Aug 25 07:21:07 and i mean like, bought his jersey, still have it somewhere in my closet Aug 25 07:21:28 Sup homies Aug 25 07:21:28 then with The Decision and all of the shit he pulled, he's just another arrogant piece of shit like kobe Aug 25 07:21:29 are there any news on the mighty android qualcomm devices? did someone other get some hands on that? Aug 25 07:21:55 you can buy it on ebay Aug 25 07:22:00 lol Aug 25 07:22:01 someone should port the flyer rom XD Aug 25 07:22:09 (joke) Aug 25 07:22:15 http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=230664585087 Aug 25 07:22:53 WiredNix|Atrix they couldn't even bother to change the description or the still photo. Aug 25 07:23:31 tho there could be a method to their madness, it'll help them when paypal gets it in arbitration. Aug 25 07:23:42 Yeah. Bastards. And engadget gives them free exposure. Aug 25 07:23:58 engadget is covering the scam? Aug 25 07:24:06 lbj is a dirt bag! Aug 25 07:24:16 They had a story. Link was posted here I think. Aug 25 07:24:25 wtf? @ ebay link Aug 25 07:24:55 mobile link Aug 25 07:24:56 WiredNix|Atrix yeah, I just read it now. Aug 25 07:25:30 lol, after i do this i can get $500 for my touchpad Aug 25 07:25:49 the problem is the bootloader Aug 25 07:25:55 i'd say if that pad is the real deal, the one on ebay that is.. If bought for under $700 it'd be an investment. Aug 25 07:25:58 we don't have one Aug 25 07:26:02 as you'd just dump the rom and get the bounty lol Aug 25 07:26:35 EliteTek I sincerely doubt that, as the listing is too screwed up. Aug 25 07:26:38 so why dont they get the bounty themselves... Aug 25 07:26:39 I was thinking the exact same thing. Aug 25 07:26:51 so you'd get a free touchpad and be $1,200 plus you'd release droid to the masses. Aug 25 07:26:57 a pretty rewarding ebay item. Aug 25 07:26:59 pastebin.com/bsP8rrkD = hulu block bypass - typed from wIrc XD Aug 25 07:27:29 EliteTek it would be more rewarding if they kept it, and collected the 2,000 bounty themselves, because no way it is going to sell for that much. Aug 25 07:27:35 EliteTek it's a scam. Aug 25 07:27:54 perhaps. Aug 25 07:28:01 hmmm.. wonder is it false advertising? Aug 25 07:28:18 c0ns0le|away I don't think the FTC gets involved with fleebay. Aug 25 07:28:28 EdLin: ebay would. Aug 25 07:28:38 omg it's fake Aug 25 07:28:57 c0ns0le|away perhaps, they usually just ask if it was shipped, and if it arrived, and if yes to both, wash their hands of the whole affair. Aug 25 07:29:01 EliteTek: i'd presume it's fraud Aug 25 07:29:08 they don't even have a picture Aug 25 07:29:15 it's very likely it is. Aug 25 07:29:15 that's just laziness Aug 25 07:29:19 but we can all hope lol Aug 25 07:29:26 or here probably is the truth Aug 25 07:29:30 s:elitetek:edlin:g' Aug 25 07:29:39 they read an article saying you noobs ported it Aug 25 07:29:46 and wrote android in the title Aug 25 07:30:28 craptain they read an article saying qualcomm ported it, but yes, that's what happened probably. Aug 25 07:30:29 hmmm... if he had it on ebay for longer i'd drive up to dallas and authenticate it. Aug 25 07:30:33 omg my computer is a piece of shit, taking 15 minutes so far to build kernel Aug 25 07:30:56 craptain: hit the turbo button. Aug 25 07:31:06 c0ns0le|away I bet he wouldn't let you see it first. ;-) Aug 25 07:31:14 omg finished yay turbo button Aug 25 07:31:16 EdLin: _shrugs_ Aug 25 07:31:22 craptain, did you remember to use -j# Aug 25 07:31:27 yea Aug 25 07:31:29 -j3 Aug 25 07:31:29 ? Aug 25 07:31:35 but only two cores in my vm Aug 25 07:31:35 2 * cores Aug 25 07:31:37 mmmmmmm optimizers. Aug 25 07:31:37 * EdLin has a quad-core computer Aug 25 07:31:38 -j4 Aug 25 07:31:44 i have eight core comp Aug 25 07:31:47 but 2 core vm Aug 25 07:31:50 ah Aug 25 07:31:50 is sad Aug 25 07:31:51 EdLin: guess i'm spoiled. have the 8 core as well. Aug 25 07:31:53 yeah vm builds suck Aug 25 07:31:55 and too lazy to reboot vm Aug 25 07:31:59 craptain: hah same here. Aug 25 07:32:06 running vmware on a gentoo server Aug 25 07:32:19 running vmware on win7 Aug 25 07:32:21 c0ns0le|away your computer was $450 tho? Aug 25 07:33:00 EdLin: no not that lucky, set me back 1700 but i've got about 6tb tied up in that damned thing. Aug 25 07:33:05 EdLin: and 12gb ram. Aug 25 07:33:07 c0ns0le|away wow Aug 25 07:33:44 c0ns0le|away you should have been able to start compiling the kernel on that thing, and finish it yesterday. Aug 25 07:34:20 EdLin: i'm having some strange connectivity issues in my house, think i'm going to have to rev back all my routers to earlier eko build. Aug 25 07:34:56 c0ns0le|away I'm on ethernet to a 50/8 connection. I'll trade my internet connection for your computer though, deal? ;-) Aug 25 07:35:32 EdLin: heh.... Aug 25 07:35:40 i used to work for a fibre isp. Aug 25 07:35:42 c0ns0le|away don't tell me you have FIOS, please don't. Aug 25 07:35:46 had 60/60 to the curb. Aug 25 07:35:53 lol Aug 25 07:35:54 EdLin: is good to be the king. Aug 25 07:36:03 EdLin: but alas i moved and took a different job. Aug 25 07:36:18 EdLin: lol told the wife, better suck it up. it wont ever be like that again. Aug 25 07:36:53 http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-TouchPad-32GB-running-Android-/230664585087?afepn=5335869999&campid=5335869999&PID=1225267&pt=US_Tablets&hash=item35b4ae3f7f Aug 25 07:37:02 c0ns0le|away I could have 100Mb, but optimum (cablevision) wants a $300 deposit for that. Aug 25 07:37:02 we saw it Aug 25 07:37:19 and $100 a month Aug 25 07:37:38 I figured it wasn't worth it. Aug 25 07:37:39 EdLin: man i'm stuck on uverse, odd thing is, they have me on fth, which the device on the dmarc is only rated @ 30mbs , but they wont update the equipt even if i pya. Aug 25 07:37:47 EdLin: i write it off @ the end of the year. Aug 25 07:38:17 c0ns0le|away I have docsis 3 of course. Aug 25 07:38:25 EdLin: bastid. Aug 25 07:38:29 lol Aug 25 07:39:24 eh cant blame the guy for putting it on ebay.. if it is in fact real.. might as well try to make a buck. personally i would have just asked for part of the prize money for providing the source Aug 25 07:39:55 famine it's not real, the listing is too poor, and the prize money too much of an incentive not to sell for anyone with sense. Aug 25 07:41:13 of course, they could have done a better listing and it still would be a fake, but they didn't feel arsed to do so. Aug 25 07:41:29 I only have 10/1 service but I get 20/1 service at night' surely they know this is happening ? Aug 25 07:41:41 NItroJunk_ certainly. Aug 25 07:42:16 lol I just tested it' 28.08/.98 Aug 25 07:42:34 EdLin: cablevision is offering 50 down now, aren't they? labled as optimum boost? Aug 25 07:42:44 squash yeppers Aug 25 07:42:52 EdLin, the nice thing about eBay, is you can generally always get your money back. Aug 25 07:43:03 squash http://www.speedtest.net/result/1449251954.png Aug 25 07:43:03 (if it's not as described) Aug 25 07:43:20 how would you prove that acfrazier Aug 25 07:43:23 acfrazier that's why, in the description field, it says webos. Aug 25 07:43:43 I could still win the case. Aug 25 07:43:51 acfrazier maybe. Aug 25 07:43:52 it says in 2 other places in the listing it runs Android. Aug 25 07:44:15 acfrazier usually ebay paypal disputes ask two questions, did it ship, and did it arrive. Aug 25 07:44:25 as I said before. Aug 25 07:44:28 that's why you don't dispute it through PayPal. Aug 25 07:44:34 EdLin: heh. i'm getting 30/6-8 on my charge ;) Aug 25 07:44:46 c0ns0le|away mine is rated 8 up. Aug 25 07:44:56 if you open an eBay case for not as described, and you provide proof (i.e. photos) that the device does not run Android, you will win very easily. Aug 25 07:45:06 c0ns0le|away don't know why I'm missing a Mb, maybe it's my typing on IRC. ;-) Aug 25 07:45:40 lmfa0 Aug 25 07:46:07 acfrazier OK, so maybe he'll get his money back, but apparently the seller doesn't mind taking that risk. Aug 25 07:46:31 I would be blown away if its legit Aug 25 07:46:50 NItroJunk_ if it's legit, why not provide any photos or even a valid description? Aug 25 07:46:56 hell i'd be happy if it were Aug 25 07:47:12 exactly edlin Aug 25 07:47:20 well, there's 3 days left. that's too long for me to even give a fuck. because I'm sure the seller will try and shill bid Aug 25 07:47:53 acfrazier I wouldn't bid for that thing, too much of a headache trying to get my money back. ;-) Aug 25 07:48:02 EdLin: err hell a logcat. Aug 25 07:48:38 i've got it. install me an ssh server and we can netcat it back. Aug 25 07:48:39 ;) Aug 25 07:48:58 lol Aug 25 07:49:42 seriously, the HP Touchpad has brought slimy eBay sellers out of the woodwork already, I'm not surprised that one of them really tried to go for the gold. Aug 25 07:50:05 wtf Aug 25 07:50:11 that one touchpad is up to $610 already Aug 25 07:50:13 -___- Aug 25 07:50:55 squash it got on engadget, it doesn't surprise me. Aug 25 07:52:20 http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/25/alleged-hp-touchpad-running-android-appears-can-be-yours-on-eba/ Aug 25 07:52:27 yeah, it'll be over a grand by 5 AM. Aug 25 07:52:29 I bet $10 right now. Aug 25 07:53:06 fuck you david and dennis Aug 25 07:53:06 you lose Aug 25 07:53:10 but, let me ask, do you see something in the video that invites you to think that is fake? Aug 25 07:53:11 cus its past 5 am Aug 25 07:53:13 the more people bidding towards the tablet the more were gonna have to pay for it Aug 25 07:53:25 Ramiro the video could be real, and the listing fake. :) Aug 25 07:53:41 EdLin: I kinda hope that's the case. Aug 25 07:54:01 shouldnt we hope both are real? Aug 25 07:54:05 squash, On ebay fr, there's a touchpad at 10 000 000€... Aug 25 07:54:08 roadkill the listing is far too amaturish to be the work of anyone other than ebay scum. Aug 25 07:54:23 claime: ffs Aug 25 07:54:27 I have checked the MAC Address, and it belongs to Palm ;) Aug 25 07:54:37 Or a guy who finally realises what he has and knows the amount of money he can get from it is a ticking clock Aug 25 07:54:51 Ramiro the video looks pretty real. Aug 25 07:54:58 the listing looks pretty lame. Aug 25 07:54:59 squash, Only to fuck with the guy trying to make a buck by buying 20 of them and reselling them during the lack of stock Aug 25 07:55:27 (well, he put it put for auction at 120€, and the retail price is 99€...) Aug 25 07:55:41 the video is legit, the listing is lame, and the guys gonna get a visit from qualcomm or hp before the auction ends. Aug 25 07:55:45 yeah, it pissed me off when people were like "oh i have lik 6 of them" Aug 25 07:55:50 while in line to get another Aug 25 07:56:10 squash, When you ask them, it's always for family/siblings Aug 25 07:56:26 Interestingly, they still end up on ebay for 20% more than the retail price Aug 25 07:56:27 rwhitby: Yeah. I had a feeling that if he was gonna get that greedy about, the dev material in the unit is gonna get him some unwanted attention. Aug 25 07:56:27 yeah, but i know they're lying through their teeht. Aug 25 07:57:14 If there's one thing you DO NOT fuck around on... is unreleased developer tech and copyrights. Aug 25 07:57:23 seems a little strange a seller with 119 rating and 100% feedback would risk being a complete douche. Aug 25 07:57:24 yeh Aug 25 07:57:25 qualcomm will fuck you up Aug 25 07:57:32 its his to sell as he wishes Aug 25 07:57:32 when that guy from gizmodo got the unreleased iphone 4 Aug 25 07:57:36 he bought it legally Aug 25 07:57:36 so theres a touchpad with android on ebay going for 610$? Aug 25 07:57:46 he will get in 0 trouble for reselling it Aug 25 07:57:54 or is this old news now Aug 25 07:58:06 qualcomm will send people to your house at night Aug 25 07:58:12 as for the "prize money" ... technicality in claiming it if you have that touchpad is... you dont really win shit unless you are able to provide android for all. Aug 25 07:58:13 bjbm no, there's a touchpad with webos, possibly, masquerading as an android listing. Aug 25 07:58:18 and install android on everything you own Aug 25 07:58:25 lol Aug 25 07:58:43 edLin; i've watched the newer videos.. i want to believe its not fake :/ Aug 25 07:58:55 craptain, And then bit you with a stick just for the lulz Aug 25 07:58:56 famine the videos are real probably, the listing is not. Aug 25 07:58:57 you'll be trying to microwave a pop tart Aug 25 07:59:02 looks pretty real to me Aug 25 07:59:04 and you'll get a java exception Aug 25 07:59:07 but im gullible Aug 25 07:59:19 good way to check is see if that reddit post has the ebay listed in the edit Aug 25 07:59:20 rwhitby: What percentage would you give the videos being legit and that tablet actually having Android on it? Just for the sake of discussion and for those still undecided. Aug 25 07:59:23 bjbm really? they can't even be arsed to make their own photo. Aug 25 07:59:25 i guess i could do that lol Aug 25 07:59:28 it's shitty 2.2 Aug 25 07:59:30 "poptart has stoped responding. Do you want to wait ? Force close ? Cancel ?" Aug 25 07:59:31 and closed source Aug 25 08:00:17 shitty 2.2? Aug 25 08:00:20 lol Aug 25 08:00:21 then what was gonna be a relaxing breakfast is you sitting running adb to your microwave trying to echo into the device node that turns on the microwave radio Aug 25 08:00:31 have fun with half ass honeycomb Aug 25 08:00:40 gingerboard is the good Aug 25 08:00:46 roadkill: yeah, right, and have someone from a media outlet in here quote me? Aug 25 08:00:47 *bread Aug 25 08:00:54 yeah because gb adds so much shit Aug 25 08:00:54 LOL Aug 25 08:00:55 CM7 with Tablet Tweaks is fine for now Aug 25 08:00:56 froyo is acceptable, it has the JIT. Aug 25 08:01:01 news flash froyo was a bigger breakthru Aug 25 08:01:01 I'd take a fully functional 2.2 if nothing else, DanielC|Mac... At least that would give me access to some 95% of all Android apps. Aug 25 08:01:11 gb adds stagefright Aug 25 08:01:19 idk what stagefright does Aug 25 08:01:22 that it does Aug 25 08:01:23 but gb adds it Aug 25 08:01:25 i think what sealed the deal for me was watching his hand accidently hit the screen and it indicate a "press" Aug 25 08:01:26 froyo adds jit Aug 25 08:01:30 rwhitby: Ah ha. So I couldn't even slip in a way for you to be able to say something THAT way, either. Damn. ;) Aug 25 08:01:47 95% only for a couple of months Aug 25 08:01:47 heh Aug 25 08:01:55 will be down to less than 50% by years end Aug 25 08:01:59 wont this technically be the most powerful HC device if it gets ported quickly Aug 25 08:02:06 1.2 ghz snapdragon > tegra 2? Aug 25 08:02:09 1.5* Aug 25 08:02:21 1.7* Aug 25 08:02:23 eh Aug 25 08:02:25 stock is 1.5 Aug 25 08:02:34 what's battery life on the Touchpad like overclocked? Aug 25 08:02:34 you'll probably never get graphics Aug 25 08:02:40 so tegra is better Aug 25 08:02:42 you think? Aug 25 08:02:44 :\ Aug 25 08:02:44 froyo was a double edged sword for me. It adds jit, things generally run smoother and better... but froyo also screws up when it comes to background apps and memory management. It simply doesn't work if you have 256MB of ram or less on your device. Aug 25 08:02:46 stock is 1.2 Aug 25 08:02:48 what about on ICS Aug 25 08:02:57 stock for the cpu is 1.5 Aug 25 08:03:03 its underclocked Aug 25 08:03:09 no Aug 25 08:03:15 roadkill which means it doesn't work on G1, and works with everything else almost OK. ;-) Aug 25 08:03:23 stock is how the tablet comes out of the package Aug 25 08:03:26 which is 1.2 Aug 25 08:03:28 is it sad im equally excited about the possibility of win8 as much as i am android on this device? Aug 25 08:03:29 SBtwo: the touchpad comes at 1.2, but the cpu is specced at 1.5 Aug 25 08:03:48 what's battery life on the Touchpad like overclocked? yo! Aug 25 08:03:54 EdLin: My phone came with 2.1, I had less issues (though worse performance) compared with 2.2... Froyo kills the phone when it doesn't respect my decision to keep killed apps dead. Aug 25 08:03:56 seaboom has deals for anyone wanting the tp Aug 25 08:04:00 same as how the ipad2 a6 is a 1ghz cpu underclocked to 800mhz Aug 25 08:04:02 yeah but it we arent tlaking about the cpu Aug 25 08:04:06 we are talking stock Aug 25 08:04:10 i think the d1 was the same case to Aug 25 08:04:12 160MB of program ram. So yeah. I sit at around 65-70MB free upon fresh task kill. Aug 25 08:04:21 1gb of ram Aug 25 08:04:25 webos has 27mb free Aug 25 08:04:32 ...question to those asking about overclocking.. do you feel your TP is running so slow that you'd need to OC? Aug 25 08:04:38 this thing flys imho Aug 25 08:04:39 craptain: Almost all of it is being used for cache. It's damn good at it. Aug 25 08:04:44 Edwin I would tell you but I never unplug it lol Aug 25 08:05:04 edlin* Aug 25 08:05:08 i wonder if it would be easy to add smartass governor to the touchpad kernel. Aug 25 08:05:21 famine probably I won't, I haven't gotten one yet. I do know I'll tone down that logging. Aug 25 08:05:21 famine: At 1.2, there's some slight lag switching between apps that are flash heavy. I get some framedrops during heavy/fast sequences on Hulu. Aug 25 08:05:27 1.5 made it all smooth Aug 25 08:05:27 famine: i used 1.5ghz if im using IRC or alot of open apps Aug 25 08:05:45 i.e. the webcast last night Aug 25 08:05:48 i had to use 1.5 Aug 25 08:06:02 OCing it to 1.5 just was that little touch of grease on the axel. It helped. Aug 25 08:06:09 roadkill : interesting..thats something i havent used really. Aug 25 08:06:31 but ive ran irc, spaz, and web browswer and didnt see much of a hiccup Aug 25 08:06:34 I've used it most for bedtime watching and browsing, famine... watching something on hulu before sleep. Aug 25 08:06:53 tabbed browser sucks up resources Aug 25 08:06:57 bummer hulu got blocked before i even got to try it! Aug 25 08:07:09 it blocks the touchpad now? Aug 25 08:07:14 I think there's a work around Aug 25 08:07:18 roadkill yep Aug 25 08:07:20 FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU Aug 25 08:07:23 i believe thats what i read on precentral. is there nitro? Aug 25 08:07:27 NItroJunk_ there is? Aug 25 08:07:29 gonna try right now Aug 25 08:07:45 so how do you change the user agent on the browser Aug 25 08:07:46 i use the device to read before bed :D maybe you can start reading roadkill. lol Aug 25 08:07:51 is it as simple as changing the browser ID? Aug 25 08:07:55 someone posted something in here earlier I thought, didn't catch the link Aug 25 08:08:01 DanielC|Mac that's what I was thinking. Aug 25 08:08:10 http://goodereaderimages.goodereader.netdna-cdn.com/blog/uploads/images/skypad-alpha.jpg Aug 25 08:08:35 FUCK YOU HULU! Aug 25 08:08:41 WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK?! Aug 25 08:09:00 DanielC|Mac you can do it with a patch, at least, you could on a Pre. Aug 25 08:09:08 i know Aug 25 08:09:10 There is NO FUCKING DIFFERENCE between my using it over Wifi on the tab and on my desktop over the same damned router! Aug 25 08:09:23 but idk the first thing about webos or coding Aug 25 08:09:31 so idk how to make a patch on my own Aug 25 08:09:41 http://www.precentral.net/hulu-finally-blocks-touchpad-owners-watching-videos Aug 25 08:10:07 DanielC|Mac just get the patch, find out how they make these darned patches, and change a string. Aug 25 08:10:26 lol Aug 25 08:10:41 DanielC|Mac you can find user agent strings using google.com ;-) Aug 25 08:10:55 i know Aug 25 08:10:58 but im not a dev Aug 25 08:11:01 and im lazy Aug 25 08:11:06 im sure its a very simple fix Aug 25 08:11:18 oh jeez.. at least the OT coversation on touchpad is classy. Aug 25 08:11:19 dolphin should make a browser that lets u change it Aug 25 08:11:22 July Aug 25 08:11:25 It's not the useragent. Aug 25 08:11:28 It's the flash version. Aug 25 08:11:38 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9551179&postcount=120 Aug 25 08:11:42 That explains it. Aug 25 08:12:31 nice Aug 25 08:12:47 you can always, sell yout touchpad without hulu for me for 99$ ;) Aug 25 08:12:53 fuck no Aug 25 08:12:54 *cough* Aug 25 08:12:55 No. Aug 25 08:13:10 I'll just go back to my Hulu alternative: Torrents. Aug 25 08:13:16 GASP Aug 25 08:13:19 oh shit this'll be east Aug 25 08:13:19 warezing is bad! Aug 25 08:13:21 They pull shit like this, they lose my adviews. That simple. Aug 25 08:13:22 *easy Aug 25 08:13:30 uImage = kernel + ramdisk Aug 25 08:13:32 i pay for hulu plus Aug 25 08:13:40 and i can boot uImage Aug 25 08:13:43 its kind of bullshit Aug 25 08:13:49 i dont see why they dont just block free users Aug 25 08:13:57 thats what its all about at the end of the day Aug 25 08:14:04 This is why torrenting even happens. Region locks, replay restrictions, limited period in which you can watch... Aug 25 08:14:05 it's all about the money ;) Aug 25 08:14:24 the tb file transfer kicks butt, I wifi'd some mp3's from a disc in my pc's DVD drive Aug 25 08:14:25 Meteo: They lose money by preventing me from being able to watch on something else. Aug 25 08:14:35 i torrent shows that i pay for via cable Aug 25 08:14:41 just miss the time it airs at Aug 25 08:15:37 i pirate everything Aug 25 08:15:40 cause fuck them Aug 25 08:16:08 you make a better experience, i stop pirating Aug 25 08:16:13 its that simple Aug 25 08:16:45 pastebin.com/bsP8rrkD for bypass mini tut, feel free to share Aug 25 08:16:52 For those who were wondering about battery life with the 1.5Ghz Overclock patch: From the Precentral forums: stock usually pulls 550mah and 1.5ghz is pulling like 565mah. Aug 25 08:17:05 That's a pretty tiny increase. Maybe half hour off total life at most. Aug 25 08:17:28 whats the capacity of the pack Aug 25 08:17:37 5000? Aug 25 08:17:39 8-10 hours mean Aug 25 08:17:42 6300mAh Aug 25 08:17:44 oh Aug 25 08:17:56 that's 8 hours of continuous wifi usage and browsing, though Aug 25 08:18:07 prob cuts off at like 3.3/cell Aug 25 08:18:14 3.2 Aug 25 08:18:29 Is it safe to update webos? I know say apple device it's hard to do certian things lol. Aug 25 08:18:38 o.O Aug 25 08:18:41 update! Aug 25 08:18:44 its fine Kane Aug 25 08:18:46 Update it. Totally safe. Aug 25 08:18:48 wish the processor could be dynamically underclocked Aug 25 08:18:50 i think updates are safe Aug 25 08:18:51 question Aug 25 08:19:06 should i cycle the tablet to help set the battery gauge Aug 25 08:19:13 SBtwo: It does speed scale down to about 400mhz and will shut off one core completely (0mhz) when the load is low enough. Aug 25 08:19:15 or is it accurate from the get go Aug 25 08:19:17 processor is dyn underclocked i'm sure Aug 25 08:19:45 you know what would be 10x sweeter than android Aug 25 08:19:48 an ios port Aug 25 08:19:52 psh Aug 25 08:19:55 a windows 7 port? Aug 25 08:19:55 heh Aug 25 08:19:57 have fucking fun with that Aug 25 08:20:10 I'd put iOS on it just to piss off the fanbois. Aug 25 08:20:11 i'll pass on the windows Aug 25 08:20:12 apparently the drivers would be the biggest mission in the world Aug 25 08:20:24 then immediately delete it, put WebOS back on and say I upgraded it Aug 25 08:20:40 HP already failed with a windows 7 tablet Aug 25 08:21:05 Slate. Problem with it was that it was too overpriced. Aug 25 08:21:13 yeah Aug 25 08:21:19 And Atom/x86 still sucks for battery life. Aug 25 08:21:30 a $99 windows 7 tablet would outsell the touchpad and ipad combined in 1 day Aug 25 08:22:06 I'd buy a $99 tablet if it had windows 98 on it Aug 25 08:22:40 dude Miui for tablet would be boss Aug 25 08:25:51 lol, who is this jbruchon guy? Aug 25 08:25:58 the bawse Aug 25 08:26:04 btw, repo sync -j16 is a bad idea Aug 25 08:26:19 why is he boss?\ Aug 25 08:26:37 cuz no one else was Aug 25 08:26:46 hi Aug 25 08:26:46 cause he paid for the cheese burgers at the last luncheon Aug 25 08:26:54 o damn Aug 25 08:26:58 thats fair Aug 25 08:27:08 can i come to the next luncheon? Aug 25 08:27:22 only if you pay for the cheese burgers Aug 25 08:27:32 p.s. - they're gormet Aug 25 08:27:41 gormet? Aug 25 08:27:42 ok Aug 25 08:27:51 i have an uneaten papa johns pizza in my fridge Aug 25 08:27:54 i dont know what that means but as long as they arent gourmet ;) Aug 25 08:27:58 heh Aug 25 08:28:00 i just wanted the free cheesy sitcks Aug 25 08:28:02 spelling! Aug 25 08:28:07 i are no know dat Aug 25 08:28:11 nothing funnier than misspelt snobby french words. Aug 25 08:28:24 its 1:30am Aug 25 08:28:25 sue me Aug 25 08:28:28 when i get android running i'll upload pic of pizza and android Aug 25 08:28:41 got an email from hp canada...very vague...but it seems Ill be getting my tp...theyll MAYBE ship them out...sept 12 :/ Aug 25 08:28:48 .... wat Aug 25 08:29:03 rofl Aug 25 08:29:52 lol, who remembers openmoko Aug 25 08:29:54 do you think this is real? http://pastebin.com/qd0Fs9QK Aug 25 08:29:57 don-i: I get the feeling, if I asked you right now, would you rather me stomp on your nuts right now in exchange for getting your touchpad sooner... or wait until Sep 12th... You'd take the former. Aug 25 08:30:10 openmoko was going to be awesome Aug 25 08:30:23 then it basically got shut down and now we have android Aug 25 08:30:32 roadkill, thats not much of an alternative :/ Aug 25 08:30:32 android sucks Aug 25 08:30:36 ios is number one Aug 25 08:30:40 sirana: Read the topic. Aug 25 08:30:51 lmao Aug 25 08:30:56 come on people Aug 25 08:31:10 roadkill some people pay to get their nuts stomped Aug 25 08:31:20 State Of Project (Aug24) Log: http://pastie.org/2426527 - Different location, same text (for the most part) Aug 25 08:31:22 i think its a fetish..whats it called...? Aug 25 08:31:39 ask roadkill Aug 25 08:31:40 he has it Aug 25 08:31:42 I just think Pastie is easier to read for IRC text. Aug 25 08:31:51 now is it just ONE nut...or..both..? that might influence the decision Aug 25 08:32:08 don-i: One gets stomped, the other gets looked at by Roseanne Barr. Aug 25 08:32:24 saw this from twitter -- http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-TouchPad-32GB-running-Android-/230664585087?pt=US_Tablets&hash=item35b4ae3f7#ht_500wt_1156 Aug 25 08:32:26 its one nut and then they run a small pipe cleaner into your urethra in exchange for overnight shipping Aug 25 08:32:37 oh my Aug 25 08:32:47 thats how i got mine so quick Aug 25 08:32:50 don-i: We were talking about it earlier. Now HIS, I'd stomp and destroy both of his nuts. Aug 25 08:33:00 SBtwo, soft bristles ? Aug 25 08:33:09 semi-soft Aug 25 08:33:48 uboot has no tenderloin Aug 25 08:33:54 this is sad Aug 25 08:33:58 lol he even has bids... Aug 25 08:33:59 cd tom_say Aug 25 08:34:00 ls Aug 25 08:44:07 So is Touchdroid failed? did you guys hide everything from the public? Aug 25 08:44:26 so much for opensource :P Aug 25 08:44:35 not failed Aug 25 08:44:52 read the room title Aug 25 08:44:56 failed if they went underground lol Aug 25 08:44:57 ok Aug 25 08:45:08 Kane_Hart showing his noob colors once again :P Aug 25 08:45:31 lonequid their git was pulled lol or the other one was :P Aug 25 08:45:46 that happened during the drama i think but it's all fine now Aug 25 08:53:55 k is anyone here actually coding? / cause we need a good uImage packer / android normally uses boot.img Aug 25 08:54:10 comcast sucks, they are pissed i am repo syncing Aug 25 08:54:46 you disconnect more in one night than I do in a month. and I pay 1/10th the price. YAY RESIDENTIAL! Aug 25 08:55:01 its only cause i'm running repo Aug 25 08:55:10 sec, resetting router Aug 25 09:36:30 Supposedly with the hulu thing... it has something to do with liscensing, but I wonder why netflix doesn't have the same issues Aug 25 09:36:48 they didn't block the paywall side though I heard Aug 25 09:36:56 probably old but: http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-TouchPad-32GB-running-Android-/230664585087?pt=US_Tablets&hash=item35b4ae3f7 Aug 25 09:37:07 jesus Aug 25 09:37:13 a friend said use orb for streaming, but you have to run a server on your pc Aug 25 09:37:16 it was at 610 like an hour ago Aug 25 09:37:29 he uses that to stream to his psp Aug 25 09:37:45 ironsight: there is a work around if you're savvy Aug 25 09:38:19 change the browser's id? Aug 25 09:38:47 like set it to Desktop? Aug 25 09:39:02 pastebin.com/bsP8rrkD Aug 25 09:40:13 very cool! Aug 25 09:40:22 * Ironsight copy pastes that into a notepad for later Aug 25 09:43:00 There is a new video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTLZHH50V7A Aug 25 09:44:28 >I am willing to help the users at rootzwiki and have posted on the website! Aug 25 09:44:33 well at least he isn't greedy Aug 25 09:45:30 out of the box? Aug 25 09:45:43 as in... it came with android installed from best buy? Aug 25 09:46:00 yeah, its a qualcomm test device that got out in the open Aug 25 09:46:18 strange! Aug 25 09:46:58 seems....laggy ? Aug 25 09:47:19 missing optimizations? Aug 25 09:47:34 oh, I'm sure Aug 25 09:49:08 but I would hope if a dev got a dump of it, it would give some forward progress Aug 25 09:49:16 notice the tablet is in the dark, a wire hooked to it to a mac laptop with it's screen off... could it be a vlc session to a android emulator? Aug 25 09:49:48 would explain the jerkyness Aug 25 09:49:59 noticed he didn't show it booting up Aug 25 09:50:06 there were several cuts in the video Aug 25 09:57:00 anyone know the reboot key combo? Aug 25 09:59:30 hard ? Aug 25 09:59:39 got in Aug 25 09:59:47 center button + top Aug 25 09:59:54 my kernel doesn't boot :( Aug 25 10:00:05 yeah Aug 25 10:00:22 that's no good Aug 25 10:00:50 oops, am being dumb Aug 25 10:00:54 kernel is gzipped Aug 25 10:01:35 if you have internalz pro you can do it from there, reboot that is Aug 25 10:01:54 not without a booted kernel Aug 25 10:02:14 if it is possible to boots other kernel... is it possible to install an ubuntu (or something else) without chroot, xecuter etc.? Aug 25 10:02:28 oh ok, that's why I was asking if you needed a hard reboot Aug 25 10:05:14 sirana: the problem is the hardware driver afaik Aug 25 10:11:31 who says they have kernel booting? Aug 25 10:11:38 custom kernel Aug 25 10:11:42 so does nand's come from qualcomm preflashed with android, then hp flashes them with the latest webos, and perhaps they forgot to flash a couple units? Aug 25 10:11:59 this just seems too weird Aug 25 10:14:14 craptain did u get ur kernel to boot Aug 25 10:14:14 ? Aug 25 10:14:53 Off to BB! Laterrrrrrrrrrrr Aug 25 10:15:02 later Aug 25 10:16:23 that's bullshit that their kernel doesn't boot Aug 25 10:16:45 i did nothing but a little fix for my toolchain Aug 25 10:18:51 need serial port to debug Aug 25 10:19:34 tomorrow i guess Aug 25 10:27:10 Good luck, you guys. Had my fingers crossed that this project would attract the right brainpower and it sounds like it did. :) Aug 25 10:36:18 fixed my kernel :) Aug 25 10:36:25 used gcc 4.3.3 Aug 25 10:36:28 sweet! Aug 25 10:36:47 i have custom kernel booting, lets try adb Aug 25 10:37:26 ewww 4.3.3 Aug 25 10:37:50 eh, it's a working kernle, i'm happy Aug 25 10:39:33 wyf Aug 25 10:39:41 WTF Aug 25 10:39:55 they did the final sale while I was asleep? Aug 25 10:40:01 walker texas frolic Aug 25 10:40:08 who ? Aug 25 10:40:24 I'm still waiting on the pre 3 fire sale Aug 25 10:40:36 the hp.com sale Aug 25 10:40:40 no Aug 25 10:40:51 they sold some phones Aug 25 10:41:00 http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/can.do?landing=rts_tablet&category=16GB&catLevel=1&storeName=storefronts&lanAttr=Type&jumpid=in_R329_prodexp/hhoslp/psg_ipg/rts_tablet/16GB_HP_TouchPad Aug 25 10:41:06 no TP's Aug 25 10:41:06 says out of stock now Aug 25 10:41:27 yeah but they didn't sell anymore yet Aug 25 10:41:59 the website just changed for some reason Aug 25 10:42:01 there's a second round of sales Aug 25 10:42:07 next week Aug 25 10:43:15 through hp only? Aug 25 10:43:58 one of the guys with android on touchpad is in the #rootz channel. any dev here that can help him with getting system dump or whatever else you want? Aug 25 10:46:00 razorloves: i was just reading the forum. how did he get his hands on that? who put android on the device? Aug 25 10:46:19 Qualcomm lol Aug 25 10:46:22 lol Aug 25 10:46:25 bingo Aug 25 10:46:58 I haven't seen any dev's in a while unfortunately Aug 25 10:47:07 talk that is Aug 25 10:47:40 craptain is helping him get system dump Aug 25 10:47:48 sweet Aug 25 10:47:57 qualcomm? Aug 25 10:48:11 Hi Aug 25 10:49:25 hello Aug 25 10:50:44 is see that there will not be second wave of touchpads Aug 25 10:52:37 morning bitches Aug 25 10:52:41 hola Aug 25 10:52:51 go to #rootz Aug 25 10:52:53 b1six, you called me last night? Aug 25 10:52:56 Morning Aug 25 10:54:47 muhhhhning Aug 25 10:57:27 how much will getting a sys dump speed up the process of getting android on this thing? Aug 25 10:57:50 with a kernel? Aug 25 10:57:55 and a bootloader? Aug 25 10:58:11 should make it a half days work Aug 25 10:58:12 uabn93: sys dump of what? Aug 25 10:58:55 of this random guy's android on the touchpad Aug 25 10:59:21 craptain: yay Aug 25 11:00:01 hey, I looked over the thread, do you guys know about the qualcomm dragonboard? It has the APQ8060 and can run a developer version of android Aug 25 11:00:06 http://www.thinq.co.uk/2011/5/31/hands-qualcomm-dragonboard-dev-kit/ Aug 25 11:00:25 but still waiting for the second batch of tpads :( Aug 25 11:03:03 evening all :) Aug 25 11:03:29 Hi Aug 25 11:03:38 fuck Aug 25 11:03:41 Even though it's not evening here :D Aug 25 11:03:47 i think CostCentral.com fucked me on my order Aug 25 11:03:56 my order is completely missing Aug 25 11:04:02 but the money is still gone Aug 25 11:04:11 ruhoh Aug 25 11:04:26 hi Aug 25 11:05:01 in case I didn't make myself clear. Qualcomm provides a version of android for the touchpad's SoC, the APQ8060. It's part of the dragonboard. Shouldn't you guys be basing an android port of over the dragonboard code? Aug 25 11:05:24 assuming you can get a dragonboard Aug 25 11:05:47 *off of the dragonboard code Aug 25 11:06:48 eg, I have an efika mx smarttop. The android demo image for that was based off of the generic/developer freescale android code. Aug 25 11:07:12 was that ebay post from this jwanish guy? Aug 25 11:07:23 uabn93, in the thread, he said no Aug 25 11:07:42 mikedep333: i know but it sounded like a cover up Aug 25 11:07:45 so the problem now is the bootloadert Aug 25 11:07:52 its not the android port Aug 25 11:08:15 android uses a different system, boot.img instead of uImage Aug 25 11:08:27 and adb instead of rockshit Aug 25 11:08:43 does anyone know the coordinates of the now missing picture on ebay? Aug 25 11:08:54 :) Aug 25 11:08:59 its clear webos was heavily influnced by the two Aug 25 11:19:50 craptain: what? is the system dump from this dude gonna be enough? Aug 25 11:20:08 just received my touchpad! Aug 25 11:20:13 Grats! Aug 25 11:20:22 my god, takes forever to update to 3.0.2 :/ Aug 25 11:20:35 Yeah :/ but it's worth iit. Aug 25 11:20:36 it Aug 25 11:20:40 guys Aug 25 11:20:42 help me out Aug 25 11:20:42 the thing's been turning for like 15 mins now Aug 25 11:20:44 i gotta go to work Aug 25 11:20:57 have him contact b1six when they're done Aug 25 11:21:01 and also to email me Aug 25 11:21:07 press@touch-droid.com Aug 25 11:22:26 oh hai.. Aug 25 11:23:12 ProTekk: what method are they using to dump it? Aug 25 11:23:27 rwhitby, idk but i gotta head out like right now Aug 25 11:23:31 im already late for work Aug 25 11:23:31 :/ Aug 25 11:23:43 Take care Pro Aug 25 11:24:21 fuck! Aug 25 11:24:24 i dont wnna leave! Aug 25 11:24:26 -_- Aug 25 11:24:27 or not <_< Aug 25 11:24:44 fine, I posted about the dragonboard & android for it on the thread Aug 25 11:24:46 Call in with the black plague? Aug 25 11:25:28 mikedep333: i think most of the devs are snoozing Aug 25 11:25:38 herpesyphilitis Aug 25 11:25:39 uabn93, gotcha Aug 25 11:25:46 yeah, there's lots of non-developers here Aug 25 11:25:49 bet they tell you to stay home Aug 25 11:25:54 lol Aug 25 11:26:23 fuckfuckfuck Aug 25 11:26:42 legit Aug 25 11:26:44 i gotta go Aug 25 11:26:45 fml Aug 25 11:26:52 ill be back in 30-40 minutes Aug 25 11:26:53 ugh Aug 25 11:27:15 I don't think he wanted to leave Aug 25 11:27:58 Nope definitely not Aug 25 11:28:05 ugh i just got my touchpad and webOS is so sluggish doing basic things like scrolling down the list of apps in the marketplace Aug 25 11:28:15 even on a super fast internet connection Aug 25 11:28:23 considering returning this shiz or ebaying it Aug 25 11:28:24 overclock it Aug 25 11:28:35 does overclocking help a lot? Aug 25 11:28:54 has it ever? Aug 25 11:28:58 It helped me, overclock to 1.5 and turned down logging. Aug 25 11:29:01 omg this thing has 0 security :) Aug 25 11:29:02 there was a link on speeding it up earlier. Aug 25 11:29:12 running custom bootloader Aug 25 11:29:14 yeah there's plenty of links on google to speed it up Aug 25 11:29:19 nice craptain Aug 25 11:29:24 u get the dump craptain? Aug 25 11:29:39 Get prepare so you can install all the log disable then overlook to 1.5 Aug 25 11:29:43 you can run 1.5 stable fnj? Aug 25 11:30:08 DreamScar: typing on a touchpad? you should add Preware to the autocorrect lib ;) Aug 25 11:30:08 You can run 1.7 stable Aug 25 11:30:12 no overvolt needed Aug 25 11:30:17 http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/got-a-slow-hp-touchpad-here-are-3-easy-ways-to-speed-it-up/ Aug 25 11:30:23 that's the first hit on google Aug 25 11:30:23 No on nexus Aug 25 11:30:26 gonna follow that Aug 25 11:30:53 android phone said WTF is preware? Aug 25 11:30:55 * rwhitby enjoys watching all these new folks use his kernel Aug 25 11:31:21 Ty sir Aug 25 11:31:29 Kernel rwhitby at your service Aug 25 11:31:42 Heh. Aug 25 11:32:04 Does it make a huge difference disabling logging and overclocking? I don't want to do it to realize I still need to ebay it because i'm not satisfied Aug 25 11:32:11 and then it's a pain undoing all this crap Aug 25 11:32:14 Rwhitby you dev uberkernel? Aug 25 11:32:22 Undo is as easy as removing in preware Aug 25 11:32:24 DO ITT Aug 25 11:32:32 Huge difference Aug 25 11:32:32 dFshadow, you can return it to stock with webOS Doctor Aug 25 11:32:36 DreamScar: I did uberkernel, preware, .... Aug 25 11:32:48 Awesome Aug 25 11:33:09 When will 1.7 ghz update go stable? Aug 25 11:33:10 Oh if you did uberkernel I feel better and will install it now lol Aug 25 11:33:28 no end-user has ever bricked a webOS device Aug 25 11:33:30 ever Aug 25 11:33:36 I'm a webos now Aug 25 11:33:43 Noob* Aug 25 11:33:58 Don't want to chance test feeds Aug 25 11:34:03 DreamScar: we usually leave the higher freqs in the test feed Aug 25 11:34:44 So it won't ever come out as an uberkernel update? Aug 25 11:35:10 Depends how stable it is with end users. Aug 25 11:35:16 Ah Aug 25 11:35:18 rwhitby: so after I install uberkernel I just install Govnah? Aug 25 11:35:24 Yep Aug 25 11:35:26 If 100% of people using the testing feed have no problem at 1.7, it goes into uberkernel Aug 25 11:35:34 Ok thank you very much Aug 25 11:35:38 If 10% have problems, it stays in the testing feed Aug 25 11:35:59 Open govnah and select the 1.5 profile Aug 25 11:36:13 Wulfegang: are you following the instructions in http://bit.ly/phd-ac ? Aug 25 11:36:19 Awesome, doing this now and disabling all of the logging stuff Aug 25 11:36:35 Oh no, sorry I didn't see that Aug 25 11:37:08 I was also told to wait about a day for synergy to finish working Aug 25 11:39:36 You should also consider getting Advanced Browser from the app store Aug 25 11:39:54 DreamScar: yeah, lots of syncing in the background Aug 25 11:40:13 http://i.imgur.com/L3oFh.jpg Aug 25 11:40:14 OWNAGE Aug 25 11:40:26 woot!!! Aug 25 11:40:37 wtf Aug 25 11:40:49 Hopefully touchdown will be dual boot compatible Aug 25 11:40:52 it's black and white android Aug 25 11:41:01 Touchdroid* Aug 25 11:41:15 Dam autocomplete Aug 25 11:41:30 Thanks for your help Dream and rwhitby Aug 25 11:41:41 Np Aug 25 11:42:50 A lot of stuff I learned from the precentral.net forums Aug 25 11:44:53 What's the word been from HP about further webos development? Aug 25 11:45:53 It's an interesting OS but is also very lacking in some areas Aug 25 11:47:20 Wish I could connect it to my WiFi printer Aug 25 11:47:25 DreamScar: so much stuff on precentral.net and webos-internals.org that Android folks are going to reinvent and publish as "new information" in the coming months ... Aug 25 11:49:10 Wulfegang: only being able to connect to other HP/webos stuff is a real drawback Aug 25 11:49:16 it prints "A N D R O I D" now Aug 25 11:49:22 l Aug 25 11:49:23 lol Aug 25 11:49:34 Eh, it;s no biggie but would have been cool Aug 25 11:50:21 rwhitby: one of you should get involved ;-) Aug 25 11:51:02 next thing is running OpenWrt on it :p Aug 25 11:51:53 loswillios: most of the packages from openwrt are already in optware and run on a stock webOS touchpad Aug 25 11:52:01 * rwhitby is an openwrt dev too Aug 25 11:52:10 rwhitby, rocks Aug 25 11:52:31 haven't done much with it since the nslu2 a couple of years ago though Aug 25 11:52:38 rwhitby: yeah I know you from there Aug 25 11:53:01 refresh my memory, openwrt is router firmware? Aug 25 11:53:11 routers, nas boxes, phones. Aug 25 11:53:14 ahh Aug 25 11:53:25 Playstation3 also ;-) Aug 25 11:53:26 * Ironsight is a dd-wrt user Aug 25 11:53:31 sip boxes Aug 25 11:54:08 I miss my PS3 Aug 25 11:54:11 I should turn my roku2 into a nas, it just crashes all the time as a media player anyway Aug 25 11:54:23 Should get it back today! Aug 25 11:54:59 craptain you can boot android or missunderstood it? Aug 25 11:55:00 rwhitby: felix wants to revive his borg stuff IIRC http://nbd.name/gitweb.cgi?p=borg.git;a=summary Aug 25 11:55:05 I only use my PS3 for Blu-Ray though I really should start playing Infamous since I got it free Aug 25 11:55:18 Infamous is great Aug 25 11:55:39 You NEED to get uncharted tho Aug 25 11:55:41 sirana they just dumped one of the android touchpads Aug 25 11:55:44 loswillios: nice. that must have happened after I got slack and stopped doing stuff Aug 25 11:56:05 O_O realy NitroJunk? Aug 25 11:57:05 yeah Aug 25 11:57:33 :D Aug 25 11:57:37 thats great Aug 25 11:57:42 god damnit Aug 25 11:57:46 did i miss the hp sale? Aug 25 11:57:51 the site says out of stock now Aug 25 11:57:54 instead of comming soon Aug 25 11:58:12 no, there was no sale Aug 25 11:58:17 well wtf Aug 25 11:58:22 why did it change? Aug 25 11:58:47 probably to give their call centers a rest Aug 25 12:00:00 you wouldnt lie to me would you? Aug 25 12:00:15 also, i used this: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcat17006&type=page&skuId=2842092&searchpage=true&_requestid=82370 Aug 25 12:00:19 with my zip Aug 25 12:00:27 the store closest to my work says "In Store Only" Aug 25 12:00:35 you think its worth campin out this morning? Aug 25 12:01:07 maybe Aug 25 12:01:33 depends on how much you want one Aug 25 12:02:35 just 1 Aug 25 12:02:37 at this point Aug 25 12:02:53 according to hp twitter, people were f5 bombing the website Aug 25 12:03:08 i think i have 2 coming, not positive though Aug 25 12:03:10 expecting to catch it any second Aug 25 12:03:12 i was one of them ironsight Aug 25 12:03:12 In other news, HP still learning how the internet and mob mentality works. Aug 25 12:03:27 i have a plugin that tells me if the "coming soon" changed Aug 25 12:03:42 me too lol Aug 25 12:03:51 you can just sign up for the email alert Aug 25 12:03:57 thats too slow Aug 25 12:04:14 with the plug in, it sings that song "CHA CHA CHA CHANGES" Aug 25 12:04:53 aussie aussie aussie Aug 25 12:05:03 oi oi oi Aug 25 12:05:08 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl3vxEudif8 Aug 25 12:05:19 pass the sugar ? Aug 25 12:05:22 ok im headin to bb Aug 25 12:05:29 fml if they dont have them Aug 25 12:05:42 good luck d0nets Aug 25 12:05:45 if I purchased 17k worth of touchpad 16gb's and sold for 120 + shipping... would that be a sin? Aug 25 12:05:45 thanks Aug 25 12:05:46 lata Aug 25 12:06:01 not if you sell me 5 Aug 25 12:06:06 what time is it there Aug 25 12:06:11 7 AM Aug 25 12:06:17 is that too early? Aug 25 12:06:17 Ironsight: that's called "a retailer" Aug 25 12:06:23 they open at 10 AM Aug 25 12:06:31 eastern? Aug 25 12:06:33 NitroJunk does the dump works on other pads? Aug 25 12:06:42 fuckin' walmart still hasn't updated me on my order. Aug 25 12:06:54 not a lot of info right now sirana Aug 25 12:07:01 Ironsight: as long as you let me know.. i'll get one off of you! Aug 25 12:07:06 ok Aug 25 12:07:13 they did bet Aug 25 12:07:16 woops Aug 25 12:07:21 170 touchpads.... Aug 25 12:07:28 they did get it dumped though Aug 25 12:07:42 gamble my whole fsckin savings Aug 25 12:07:46 you want more than one roadkill? Aug 25 12:08:04 Sexbarril: I ordered the touchstone and case. Aug 25 12:08:13 for 3400 profit... Aug 25 12:08:17 ah ok Aug 25 12:08:22 there was another chan on here i joined Aug 25 12:08:23 blah Aug 25 12:08:27 need to add to auto Aug 25 12:08:46 knowing my luck, hp would say, no Aug 25 12:09:15 d0nets: I'll be heading off to best buy. Actually I'll pass by it in about 45 minutes and see if there are any people waiting. If there is i'll get in line. If not i'll go back 45 minutes prior to opening with my handy chromebook with the free verizon data plan from google!!! Aug 25 12:09:38 djhash, are they showing them in stock? Aug 25 12:09:43 I wish the accessories would drop in price Aug 25 12:09:53 they did Aug 25 12:10:01 Nope. I'm not going to depend on the online site. Aug 25 12:10:30 Store Pickup: Not Available Aug 25 12:10:38 I thought they shipped them all back Aug 25 12:10:46 When I went in on sunday, they were out. Kept checking the site all sunday night and monday morning. Apparently they had some at opening on monday and sold out as soon as the doors opened. Aug 25 12:11:08 but the site always showed not available. Aug 25 12:11:15 Ironsight: Nobody really knows how the hell BestBuy works anymore, not even the stores themselves. Aug 25 12:11:17 roadkill have you seen either used? Aug 25 12:11:20 lol Aug 25 12:11:32 i want to know what are some good addons for this bad boy Aug 25 12:11:41 cordless charger Aug 25 12:12:10 Sexbarril: Not yet. They were off Walmart, so the price was too good to pass up. Aug 25 12:12:27 there was a really good post on reddit listing a bunch of cheap accessories for the touchpad though Aug 25 12:12:32 lemme find it Aug 25 12:12:37 cool Aug 25 12:12:38 The touchstone is still like 70 bucks Aug 25 12:12:42 F that Aug 25 12:12:43 and the touchstone and case were how much? Aug 25 12:12:49 if still in stock i may jump on the case Aug 25 12:12:50 http://www.reddit.com/r/webos/comments/js6y7/best_accessories_for_your_touchpad/c2epuf7?context=3 - Still had it open. Heh. Aug 25 12:12:55 i dont think i need the touchstone really Aug 25 12:13:31 does the hp touchpad keyboard works if i pair with my laptop 2 or only with the tp? Aug 25 12:13:33 http://www.multiupload.com/58QBCC4HS7 < Android dump download Aug 25 12:13:36 Touchstone on Walmart when they still had it in stock (sold out fast): $35. The Official sleeve for the TP: $19. Spare USB Cable/Chargers were going for $11. Aug 25 12:13:56 Ugh Aug 25 12:14:09 The case on amazon is like 35 Aug 25 12:14:37 still available in store though right roadkill? Aug 25 12:14:39 And the third party ones look like ass Aug 25 12:14:40 for some of the things? Aug 25 12:14:43 i wouldnt mind the case Aug 25 12:15:26 The official case is sweet Aug 25 12:15:47 ooh, android dump is on the site Aug 25 12:15:47 NitroJunk what can normal user like me do with the dump? Aug 25 12:15:51 Sexbarril: Walmart has been completely sold out for almost 2 day snow Aug 25 12:15:55 Like a hardcover phone case with a flap to protect the screen Aug 25 12:16:02 http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=3692&p=75335#post75335 Aug 25 12:16:06 I have no idea lol Aug 25 12:16:20 you can stare at it Aug 25 12:16:25 :) Aug 25 12:16:28 hehe Aug 25 12:17:00 i dont really care about it as far as the backing really Aug 25 12:17:06 i want the screen to be scratch free Aug 25 12:17:32 get a screen protector, though they are a pain to install Aug 25 12:17:43 I put one on my wife's droid before she even touched it Aug 25 12:18:10 glad too, that screen protector looks like it's taken a beating in only a month Aug 25 12:19:18 ah says still in stock in store Aug 25 12:19:28 do they have same price in store for it anyone know? Aug 25 12:19:34 * Sexbarril looks at roadkill Aug 25 12:20:05 so I'm guessing we can use dd to image this up, then flash with webos-internals tools Aug 25 12:20:13 theres always one bubble that i hate when ive tried to install a protector lol Aug 25 12:20:17 i hate installing them Aug 25 12:20:34 ill do it for you for $10 Aug 25 12:20:42 Poke the bubble with a needle Aug 25 12:20:42 lol Aug 25 12:20:42 I was lucky and sat there for over an hour and got all the bubbles out Aug 25 12:20:47 i may get the zagg one Aug 25 12:20:50 had it for the zune Aug 25 12:20:52 its ace Aug 25 12:21:11 used a rubber squeegee Aug 25 12:21:37 i am going to see if they have it Aug 25 12:21:40 if so i am going to get it Aug 25 12:21:41 heh Aug 25 12:21:45 zagg is very nice Aug 25 12:22:18 I don't like the protectors you have to spray Aug 25 12:23:03 * Ironsight laughs at dump.zip/dump/xbin/crasher and cpueater Aug 25 12:23:16 nom nom nom Aug 25 12:24:45 I see that now lol Aug 25 12:25:03 yeah its $40 for the zagg Aug 25 12:25:15 but i have a 10% discount so $36 Aug 25 12:25:17 not bad Aug 25 12:25:37 ooouuuu fancy...a youtuber with an android pulled through and provided a dump Aug 25 12:26:03 The dump has a shitton of zero byte files, though Aug 25 12:26:09 It's hard to say if it's a proper dump so far. Aug 25 12:26:12 * Ironsight reads the apache license file in the notice gzip Aug 25 12:27:08 BTW folks, Best Buy is showing Touchstones for $39.99, but Instore Only, Keyboards for $34.99 and online buyable. Aug 25 12:27:23 sweet, android 2.2.1 dump Aug 25 12:27:24 ftw Aug 25 12:28:03 roadkill: I got the case for $24.99 and a touchstone at $39.99 at BB yesterday Aug 25 12:28:09 they were out of keyboards :( Aug 25 12:28:32 Hopefully this gets us a lot closer to touchdroid Aug 25 12:28:54 jtrucks: Keyboards still online. Grab one. Aug 25 12:28:58 $4.99 shipping. Aug 25 12:29:14 I'm not getting my touchtone until I get my tablet (fscking datavision) Aug 25 12:29:50 I wish there was some logic to how this firesale was done, because seems like every method everyone used has been a crapshoot Aug 25 12:30:06 Yeah Aug 25 12:30:10 man... running out of money though. Aug 25 12:30:14 that's life, big risk for big rewards Aug 25 12:30:19 the touchstone works with more than just the touch? Aug 25 12:30:20 My food budget is shot for the next two months. Mmmmmramen. Aug 25 12:30:28 Lol Aug 25 12:30:45 Hello ramen noodles Aug 25 12:30:55 touchstone does work with HP case on the unit, too. Aug 25 12:30:57 luckily I just got my taxes back :/ Aug 25 12:30:58 mmmm ketchup sandwiches Aug 25 12:31:07 taxes back? that'd be nice... :P Aug 25 12:31:11 7.5k :) Aug 25 12:31:11 Wulfegang: hahaha Aug 25 12:31:15 http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/hp-touchpad-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php Aug 25 12:31:21 i would HIGHLY recommend that Aug 25 12:31:28 I pay almost that TO the feds :( Aug 25 12:31:43 o.O Aug 25 12:31:45 now this is fun Aug 25 12:31:47 i had the zagg shield on my pre. it was awesome. Aug 25 12:31:51 i'm looking at the init scripts for the dump Aug 25 12:31:56 they mention some kernel modules Aug 25 12:31:58 libra.so Aug 25 12:32:06 yeah jtrucks Aug 25 12:32:14 a bit pricey i will admit Aug 25 12:32:16 if i'm not wrong... this module is the one used for the WiFi module Aug 25 12:32:20 not on the Touchpad, but on the Pre Aug 25 12:32:22 but with it you dont even need a case Aug 25 12:32:26 its THAT good Aug 25 12:32:40 Sexbarril: except a case helps protect from impact. Aug 25 12:32:44 http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=3692&p=75335 Aug 25 12:32:45 ^^ Aug 25 12:32:48 : Aug 25 12:32:49 :D Aug 25 12:32:49 :D Aug 25 12:32:50 :D Aug 25 12:32:50 :D Aug 25 12:33:00 jtrucks kind of Aug 25 12:33:02 not really Aug 25 12:33:23 so these bins in the wifi folder I'm guessing wifi firmware? Aug 25 12:33:31 like i said i have the zune Aug 25 12:33:38 and i have dropped that fucker many a time Aug 25 12:33:44 Sexbarril: small drops or bumps, sharp objects that would be more likely to poke a hole rather than scratch.etc Aug 25 12:34:10 well i just speak from my experience Aug 25 12:34:17 the screen is the main thing you want looking good Aug 25 12:34:27 everything else is just whatever really Aug 25 12:34:51 but i get your point Aug 25 12:35:03 if i have an extra $20 ill get the case Aug 25 12:35:03 heh Aug 25 12:35:11 ugh Aug 25 12:35:15 anyone know why this "dump" Aug 25 12:35:18 isn't a real one? Aug 25 12:35:27 ie. it's got mac system files (not been properly prepared) Aug 25 12:35:31 ProTekk: what exactly is that dump? Aug 25 12:36:00 dgoodwin: a system dump of an HP TouchPad running Qualcomm's build of Android 2.2.1 AKA Froyo Aug 25 12:36:09 the system dump of the QC tab Aug 25 12:36:09 nice Aug 25 12:36:13 running froyo Aug 25 12:36:19 Sexbarril: I got myself a padded leather case for the TP as well, instead of just relying on something that looks rubberish. Nearly doubles the thickness, but hey, makes me look important. Heh Aug 25 12:36:20 shame it's not a dd'd image :( Aug 25 12:36:23 would be neater imho Aug 25 12:36:29 so it is usable by others? Aug 25 12:36:33 Pulser: this is a start Aug 25 12:36:36 dgoodwin: not really Aug 25 12:36:39 pretty easy to get a dd image if they knew what they were doing Aug 25 12:36:42 ProTekk, agreed 100% Aug 25 12:36:44 Pulser: Yeah, I'm not sure if the dump is complete. Aug 25 12:36:44 source code > binary drivers Aug 25 12:36:46 dgoodwin, read about the android /system partition here http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/android-partitions-explained-boot-system-recovery-data-cache-misc/ Aug 25 12:36:46 rwhitby, EXACTLY Aug 25 12:36:56 I haven't looked through the dump Aug 25 12:37:00 mikedep333: oh nice, thanks Aug 25 12:37:00 when I saw __MACOSX Aug 25 12:37:01 I even gave them a hint Aug 25 12:37:01 how much roadkill? Aug 25 12:37:01 Tons of zero byte files. Aug 25 12:37:03 I decided to close it Aug 25 12:37:05 and where? Aug 25 12:37:06 :P Aug 25 12:37:06 heh Aug 25 12:37:12 and as for people looking for firesales Aug 25 12:37:14 since they hadn't prepared it properly Aug 25 12:37:17 roadkill you know my secret :p Aug 25 12:37:18 I should post the build.prop Aug 25 12:37:43 Sexbarril: They mounted the pad on a Mac, for starters. Aug 25 12:37:48 mikedep333: not too much interesting in build.prop Aug 25 12:37:50 tbh Aug 25 12:38:05 ProTekk, yeah, I didn't see a crazy ID or anything Aug 25 12:38:08 the zero byte files are probably symbolic links Aug 25 12:38:09 Simple froyo build.prop huh Aug 25 12:38:46 ok, gotta go, later Aug 25 12:39:26 zenitraM, yes they likely are Aug 25 12:39:27 the thing is Aug 25 12:39:29 if they dd'd it Aug 25 12:39:31 there is no issue Aug 25 12:39:36 mount it as whatever filesystem is in use Aug 25 12:39:41 (EXT?) Aug 25 12:39:53 then boom, got a PROPER dump image of it Aug 25 12:39:56 like rwhitby said Aug 25 12:40:18 Pulser: nope, that's not the way Aug 25 12:40:28 no, I think I explained that badly Aug 25 12:40:39 what I meant was that you could dd the device, it wasn't a "guide" to do so Aug 25 12:40:42 it's ironic that most webOS devs would know how to dump it :) Aug 25 12:40:46 hehe Aug 25 12:41:05 well, mine is at home Aug 25 12:41:10 so once I get it open Aug 25 12:41:17 I can start to look at WebOS and whatnot Aug 25 12:41:30 it took me 7 days to get from 0 to ROM dev on Android Aug 25 12:41:37 I'd imagine it will take a little longer on webos Aug 25 12:41:41 Damn droid1 keeps background killing. Andchat Aug 25 12:43:42 the webos devs totally made the webos devices their minions Aug 25 12:43:51 lol the androidguy31 posted his "how to" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4aFcoAxw58 Aug 25 12:44:25 that was funny Aug 25 12:44:31 I about died laughing Aug 25 12:44:31 @lonequid is that the go buy an iPad video? That troll needs to burn in hell hahah Aug 25 12:44:39 yeah lol Aug 25 12:44:40 Ha Aug 25 12:44:45 Funny. Aug 25 12:45:00 Yeah I'll admit I laughted too, but still ;) Aug 25 12:45:10 it was more hype in those 2 youtube videos than the launch of halo reach Aug 25 12:45:41 droi droid droi droid dr dr droiddddd Aug 25 12:45:43 lol Aug 25 12:45:51 But not more hype than duke nukem? Aug 25 12:46:01 The King is Back. All Hail the King! Aug 25 12:46:35 not more hype than half life 3 Aug 25 12:46:36 the intro to the game once you bought it was a damn hype commercial, like trying to convince you that you did the right thing buying it Aug 25 12:46:57 like, trying to convince you to actually play it Aug 25 12:46:59 I WANT HL3 NOW! Aug 25 12:47:30 Ep3 would be nicer before HL3 Aug 25 12:47:52 I still need to play ep 1 and 2 tho Aug 25 12:48:13 OnSale is starting to get the negative feedback haha Aug 25 12:48:31 Probably buy orange box for Xbox Aug 25 12:48:34 I want the doom 3 source code now... maybe we can port it to webos ;) Aug 25 12:49:04 just get unreal engine Aug 25 12:49:04 I didn't like doom 3 Aug 25 12:49:06 Did you see where Gamestop is making its stores pull the free OnSale copies of Deus Ex from the games. Aug 25 12:49:07 its the best one right now Aug 25 12:49:20 tap once to shoot, 3 times to turn on flashlight, ehh, this could be interesting Aug 25 12:49:21 Fuck GameStop Aug 25 12:49:26 OnSale coupons I mean Aug 25 12:49:41 people don't buy pc games from stores anymore lol Aug 25 12:49:41 Onlive you mean Aug 25 12:49:43 @Wulfegang what? Aug 25 12:49:47 Wait, not OnSale, OnLive lol Aug 25 12:49:48 yeah OnLive you mean Aug 25 12:49:49 Sorry Aug 25 12:50:00 On the phone will hospital and mind is elsewhere Aug 25 12:50:11 with Aug 25 12:50:27 that sucks :( Aug 25 12:50:36 My dad refuses to buy off steam Aug 25 12:50:47 Looks like some SlickDealers are getting some money back from Amazon for this whole fiasco, there will be questions answered and someone is going to get canned Aug 25 12:50:52 He wants a physical copy Aug 25 12:51:08 Not me, more stuff to worry about Aug 25 12:51:14 * Ironsight believes in the mystical magical cloud Aug 25 12:51:15 and almost everything wants Internet access anyways Aug 25 12:52:20 I read Diablo 3 will require a constant internet connection :( Aug 25 12:52:36 My guess is it willb e like SC2 Aug 25 12:52:38 except for the people that don't pay for it Aug 25 12:52:46 that's because DRM works! Aug 25 12:52:54 psh Aug 25 12:55:04 What irc app do you use for your Touchpad? Aug 25 12:55:14 wIRC Aug 25 12:55:15 I couldn't find one yesterday Aug 25 12:55:39 Is the best thing to do install Preware? Aug 25 12:55:39 Is it in the app store? Aug 25 12:55:48 I think it was in Preware Aug 25 12:55:54 I have Preware Aug 25 12:56:03 I'll look again then Aug 25 12:56:09 app store one is better Aug 25 12:56:33 Is it still wIRC? Aug 25 12:56:38 Maybe it was in app store....hell I can't remember, too much stuff on my mind lol Aug 25 12:57:20 wIRC is in preware Aug 25 12:58:09 if you have any respect for the devs you'll buy it from the app store Aug 25 12:58:30 same app? Aug 25 12:59:09 when it gets there, they're still waiting for an app store bug to be fixed so they can submit it Aug 25 12:59:25 Oh, I didn't know it was paid software, it was just the first thing I saw in Preware. Now I feel bad :( Aug 25 12:59:28 so yeah, preware now Aug 25 12:59:58 it's gpl, and sold by the authors in the app store too Aug 25 12:59:58 I don't think I looked in Preware last night Aug 25 13:00:28 I'm doing this from my 3.7" phone Aug 25 13:00:32 they have a donation address too if you feel so inclined Aug 25 13:00:35 Are you sure its the actual authors? I don't want to support another leech ala the SNES9x fiasco that happened on the Android Market Place Aug 25 13:00:40 Feels so tiny Aug 25 13:00:53 xaios i'm one of the minor authors Aug 25 13:00:55 That guy should have been shot for stealing others works Aug 25 13:01:09 and i wrote preware. i know about this stuff Aug 25 13:01:16 Ah ok Aug 25 13:01:44 rwhitby wrote everything, he is the man :D Aug 25 13:02:01 i lead a team that wrote everything Aug 25 13:02:06 nice Aug 25 13:02:21 I wrote a program once Aug 25 13:02:28 10 print "Hi" Aug 25 13:02:29 20 goto 10 Aug 25 13:02:50 Wulfegang, id buy that Aug 25 13:02:53 ROFL Aug 25 13:03:06 a team - something touchdroid seems to have trouble with ;-) Aug 25 13:03:08 Rwhitby why dont you work for palm/hp? Aug 25 13:03:08 gogo Basic days Aug 25 13:03:23 alot more useful than simpler apps i have like...Tasker Aug 25 13:03:30 they can't afford me, and no office in australiz Aug 25 13:03:36 Lol Aug 25 13:03:38 australia Aug 25 13:03:51 What language are webOS apps written in? Aug 25 13:03:55 Java? Aug 25 13:03:57 You should do it for the love Aug 25 13:04:22 javascript Aug 25 13:05:01 Looks like Java Aug 25 13:05:08 Grabbing the SDK Aug 25 13:05:11 roadkill, Well, I see you got a promotion, grats man ^ Aug 25 13:06:14 Aug 25 13:06:16 hello Aug 25 13:06:54 xaios: a lot of it is javascript (enyo), there's also the pdk which provides c/c++ libraries Aug 25 13:08:21 with a large codebase in javascript,, I imagine webos is similar to chrome os in design right? Aug 25 13:08:28 Coweather: I'll give a shot at it, I haven't written any javascript since College, I work in a Microsoft Shop these days, its hard to transition away from Visual Studio once you've used it for so long and use other tools ;) Aug 25 13:09:45 It seems like a lot of their links on the developer.palm.com site are dead Aug 25 13:11:57 farchord: More like got a punishment. Aug 25 13:12:14 I'm more or less the overnight channel gimp Aug 25 13:12:15 roadkill, LOL why? I'd be happy to contribute! lol Aug 25 13:12:24 lol Aug 25 13:12:57 right, very noob question, so apolgies... :P Aug 25 13:13:00 roadkill, if I were you guys I'd get an eggdrop online lol Aug 25 13:13:07 Is there any compelling reason to update to 3.0.2 right now? Aug 25 13:13:13 I understand preware can undo such things IIRC Aug 25 13:13:24 (I was reading up, as I'm not too sure how low-level the OS updates go) Aug 25 13:13:43 Pulser, it doesnt really matter either way or. You can install 3.0.2 safely. Aug 25 13:13:53 cool Aug 25 13:14:06 and presumably just install 3.0.0 if need be Aug 25 13:14:13 now... one other stupid (but sorta devish question) Aug 25 13:14:24 is it possible for me to take a full "dump" of my WebOS and setup touchpad Aug 25 13:14:30 sorta like "nandroid" or dd Aug 25 13:14:37 Pulser: Unlike the iOS patches where any patch might block 'homebrewing', HP completely opened their tablets to homebrewers. We aren't blocked eitherway Aug 25 13:14:39 3.0.2 does have some fixes. I had the dimmer bug. 3.0.2 fixed that. Aug 25 13:14:40 so that if HP were to decide to pull the update servers etc Aug 25 13:14:47 I could restore my dd'd image somehow Aug 25 13:14:49 Sweet, TouchPad case/stand just shipped Aug 25 13:14:55 roadkill, that's good to hear :) Aug 25 13:15:08 the stand is pretty bad ass Aug 25 13:15:11 Pulser: Power, Uparrow and Center will restore your unit to factory state. Aug 25 13:15:57 right Aug 25 13:16:10 is there a separation between system and user data? Aug 25 13:16:14 ie. /system and /data Aug 25 13:16:21 such that it just nukes one partition Aug 25 13:16:26 and leaves the other Aug 25 13:16:36 or... is this smarter, restoring it from a copy somewhere (PC?) Aug 25 13:16:45 apologies, I am putting android thinking into this I think :D Aug 25 13:17:02 perhaps I should start to read up on the technical layout of these things first Aug 25 13:17:05 is it the same as a Pre? Aug 25 13:18:27 If you guys has a BB nearby stop down at opening Aug 25 13:18:42 Apparently mine is getting 120. Aug 25 13:18:50 Looking at wirc in Preware. What is this business in red? Aug 25 13:19:19 DreamScar, I'd ignore it, I didnt pay attention to it, and it works fine here Aug 25 13:19:30 Ok Aug 25 13:19:53 Too bad its only emulated Aug 25 13:21:35 * farchord is a tad bored, tries to annoy himself by watching an unholy amount of that pesky Nyan cat website. Aug 25 13:21:53 Nvm Aug 25 13:21:55 nyan cat Aug 25 13:21:56 where Aug 25 13:21:57 where Aug 25 13:22:01 lol Aug 25 13:22:05 i love nyan cat :D Aug 25 13:22:14 http://nyan.cat/ Aug 25 13:22:15 nyan cat !!!!!!!!!! *wohooo* Aug 25 13:22:16 i think anyone who owns an atrix can tell you Aug 25 13:22:55 haha touchpad irc! Aug 25 13:23:16 much better Aug 25 13:23:25 DreamScar_, only problem is if your pad goes asleep, you lose connection Aug 25 13:23:41 That's dumb, Aug 25 13:23:41 srsly? Aug 25 13:24:43 ya Aug 25 13:24:46 no way to fix it? Aug 25 13:24:53 havent bothered searching Aug 25 13:25:02 if you mean wifi disconnecting when sleeping its configurable Aug 25 13:25:15 but it was set not to disconnect on sleep as defautl though.. Aug 25 13:25:15 why does my name have an underscore after it? Aug 25 13:25:17 then that might be it Aug 25 13:25:36 DreamScar_, you probably connected when your other connection was still active Aug 25 13:25:44 ah Aug 25 13:25:56 I'm pretty new to irc Aug 25 13:26:08 haven't used it in like 8 years Aug 25 13:26:35 DreamScar_, I used to be an IRCop in a small network with ALOT of botnets Aug 25 13:26:42 Ahh, I miss the mass glinings Aug 25 13:26:59 I have no idea what any of that means Aug 25 13:28:18 DreamScar_, Long story short, you know computer viruses, right? alot of them are what we call trojans, which connect your computer on the background to, amongst other things, irc channels for the 'virus master/owner/...' to make your computer do whatever he wants. Our network had some of those, which we glined (Server-wide ban) Aug 25 13:28:29 The fun of it was when they were in the thousands. Aug 25 13:28:44 ah Aug 25 13:29:19 hey has anyone noticed some lines of text get cut short on the touchpad? Aug 25 13:29:30 DreamScar_, didnt notice that Aug 25 13:29:53 You've NYANED for Aug 25 13:29:53 461.3 seconds Aug 25 13:29:55 XD Aug 25 13:30:00 litdroid how do u know urs is getting 120 ? Aug 25 13:30:09 did they tell u lol Aug 25 13:30:14 your explanations for example. all the g and y and stuff have their tails cut off Aug 25 13:30:43 makes it hard to read some times Aug 25 13:30:46 odd font? Aug 25 13:30:54 I blame Iraq. Aug 25 13:31:07 I'm using whatever the default font it Aug 25 13:31:12 is* Aug 25 13:32:21 Suupari apparently customer service said so. Aug 25 13:32:23 i noticed it while web browsing too. sometimes parts of text lines will shift up or down by a couple pixels Aug 25 13:32:34 Everything is a rumor it seems Aug 25 13:33:04 aiite that's enough nyaning for one day. Aug 25 13:33:20 nyaning? Aug 25 13:33:37 http://nyan.cat Aug 25 13:34:09 lol wtf Aug 25 13:34:23 Good nyan cat Aug 25 13:34:28 =) Aug 25 13:34:45 You can get nyan cat for windows explorer Aug 25 13:34:55 For transfering data Aug 25 13:35:07 The green bar or whatever Aug 25 13:35:18 haha Aug 25 13:36:35 dammit I want my ps3 now! deus ex is begging me to play Aug 25 13:37:00 D; Aug 25 13:37:47 I'll prolly get it but for PC Aug 25 13:38:11 I don't play pc games anymore Aug 25 13:38:23 I used to be a hardcore pc gamer Aug 25 13:39:23 ah Call of Duty 2, those were the days Aug 25 13:46:33 is there any way to disable the overscrolling effect in the web broswer? Aug 25 13:46:55 its super annoying Aug 25 13:47:05 sorry to bother yall, and interrupt yall Aug 25 13:47:22 lost ops sam? Aug 25 13:47:27 indeed Aug 25 13:47:30 more #touchdroid drama? Aug 25 13:47:37 not at all Aug 25 13:47:41 :p Aug 25 13:47:47 im wondering if anyone here have more than 1 tablet Aug 25 13:47:55 a second unit they would love to sell me Aug 25 13:48:16 someone mentioned one on jbruchons twitter Aug 25 13:48:18 if i get my hands on one Aug 25 13:48:22 i'd be happy to help you get it Aug 25 13:49:10 yeah im still waiting on wired Aug 25 13:49:14 he got like 30 Aug 25 13:49:33 jesus Aug 25 13:49:55 .... Aug 25 13:50:11 I wish I had that kind of walking around momey Aug 25 13:50:17 money* Aug 25 13:51:01 how much is wired selling them for Aug 25 13:51:28 Anyone interested? http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/ele/2564985811.html Aug 25 13:51:32 CHECK OUT MY AD Aug 25 13:51:46 not interested Aug 25 13:51:48 any ops still there? Aug 25 13:51:58 ;) Aug 25 13:52:05 :D Aug 25 13:52:05 :O Aug 25 13:52:30 * Pulser sets mode +b on cf8a2f98@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.138.47.152 Aug 25 13:52:38 :P Aug 25 13:52:44 lol wut Aug 25 13:52:51 lol Aug 25 13:53:08 thats totally legit tho Aug 25 13:53:09 noob irc question, do the colors of peoples names mean anything? Aug 25 13:53:15 no DreamScar_ Aug 25 13:53:47 so people just change them to what they want? Aug 25 13:53:56 DreamScar_, what matters is the symbol or coloured dot before them Aug 25 13:54:11 on freenode, green is op, orange is voice (@ and + respectively) Aug 25 13:54:14 depends on your client Aug 25 13:54:18 :X Aug 25 13:54:28 ok Aug 25 13:54:42 @samcripp: have you tried to get a hold of @malsbury. He is willing to sell at cost Aug 25 13:54:48 I should probably read up a little on irc Aug 25 13:55:07 no i havnt Aug 25 13:55:19 my prob is im a poor dev Aug 25 13:55:24 and office depot hasnt refunded me Aug 25 13:55:37 so i have to wait till next wensday to make a purchase Aug 25 13:55:37 mine will be here sat. from hp.com :) Aug 25 13:55:45 mikael91: do you know how many he has? Aug 25 13:55:49 he offered on twitter. I would get a hold of him worth a try Aug 25 13:56:00 one extra is what it sounded like Aug 25 13:56:29 Just got back from BB scored a 16gb for my brother Aug 25 13:56:46 http://twitter.com/#!/malsbury Aug 25 13:57:43 * k-e-v contacts malsbury Aug 25 13:57:45 I got mine from staples. last one in the city until best buy started selling theirs Aug 25 13:58:09 then I bought another from best buys website Aug 25 14:02:24 http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-TouchPad-32GB-running-Android-/230664585087?pt=US_Tablets&hash=item35b4ae3f7f#ht_500wt_1287 Aug 25 14:02:31 scum bag Aug 25 14:02:32 always for profit Aug 25 14:02:41 yeah. it's frustrating. Aug 25 14:03:11 I mean... really... Aug 25 14:03:27 why not just let developers get into it Aug 25 14:03:31 anon314, capitalism.. Aug 25 14:03:39 i'm sure you're used to it if you're in the USA. Aug 25 14:03:39 indeed Aug 25 14:03:48 well Aug 25 14:03:52 I was fairly peed off Aug 25 14:03:55 People making money off other people's stupidity, isn't that the definition of a businessman? Aug 25 14:03:55 yeah I am... but still we should be working together Aug 25 14:03:57 with the reselling that was going on Aug 25 14:04:05 it took me ages to source one Aug 25 14:04:09 farchord, that's capitalism ;) Aug 25 14:04:09 if I'd been able to get one Aug 25 14:04:12 such as all these people buying 100 units to resell Aug 25 14:04:13 I could have spent 3 days now Aug 25 14:04:16 Yep Aug 25 14:04:16 working on sorting out Android stuff Aug 25 14:04:17 for it Aug 25 14:04:26 instead I have spent 3 to 4 days sourcing one Aug 25 14:04:33 someone else with a tp running android supposedly dumped it ands it available Aug 25 14:04:34 no luck at BB Pulser? Aug 25 14:04:44 anon314, I am in the UK, but got one at home now Aug 25 14:04:49 mikael91, yeah I saw, but dump looks useless Aug 25 14:04:52 they did a dump of FILES Aug 25 14:04:52 ohh cool Aug 25 14:04:54 not the image Aug 25 14:04:59 It arrived today Aug 25 14:05:00 God damn useless touchpad. Always freezing on mail and web browsing Aug 25 14:05:03 I'm at work :( Aug 25 14:05:07 where in the UK? I have family there and visited last month Aug 25 14:05:10 BatNode, updated etc? Aug 25 14:05:16 anon314, scotland Aug 25 14:05:16 if you dont mind me asking Aug 25 14:05:20 between glasgow and edinburgh Aug 25 14:05:30 ok I went up that way Aug 25 14:05:37 I was told not to update it or else I would lose the touchdroid thing Aug 25 14:05:40 We have ancesteral land near perthshire Aug 25 14:05:45 BatNode, uhm AFAIK no Aug 25 14:05:49 I think you are OK Aug 25 14:05:56 I asked the question earlier Aug 25 14:05:56 Asked a dev. he said don't do it Aug 25 14:05:57 let's see... Aug 25 14:05:59 hmmm ok Aug 25 14:06:04 nice. fedex says my package will be here this sat. i didn't know hp.com setup sat orders :) Aug 25 14:06:13 interesting, as AFAIK hp don't do mean stuff :P Aug 25 14:06:30 Pulser, it doesnt really matter either way or. You can install 3.0.2 safely. Aug 25 14:06:43 Pulser: Unlike the iOS patches where any patch might block 'homebrewing', HP completely opened their tablets to homebrewers. We aren't blocked eitherway Aug 25 14:06:44 3.0.2 does have some fixes. I had the dimmer bug. 3.0.2 fixed that. Aug 25 14:07:09 k I'll update it now thern Aug 25 14:07:24 Pulser, aside from pulling a perfectly good tablet from the market after a month and a half of it actually coming out Aug 25 14:07:33 although that could be more classified as stupid than mean Aug 25 14:07:48 yeah lol Aug 25 14:07:50 seems like today will be a good day for collaboration Aug 25 14:07:51 that's commercial Aug 25 14:07:56 I would define "mean" as being something like Aug 25 14:08:00 What do you mean anon Aug 25 14:08:03 - signing the bootloader, then adding signatures to files Aug 25 14:08:10 and forcing checks on them to boot Aug 25 14:08:12 that's mean Aug 25 14:08:15 Batnode, disable logging zdnet has a easy to follow writeup on it Aug 25 14:08:16 :P Aug 25 14:08:17 things are moving right along on the thread Aug 25 14:08:20 but an update that fixes stuff is cool IMHO Aug 25 14:08:22 ##LOGS## I think Aug 25 14:08:24 turn the level down Aug 25 14:08:30 I hate having to deal with SHSH blobs on my iPhone Aug 25 14:08:42 lol I don't know what SHSH is :P Aug 25 14:08:48 never had to use iThing Aug 25 14:08:58 But I mean holy fuck is that thing powerful. I would jump through a flaming hoop of fire to activate it and still love it Aug 25 14:09:36 ah god shsh blobs... tinyumbrella helps with them but still a pain Aug 25 14:09:45 Realistically how hard is it going to be to compile a stable OS off the android pad if its dumped? Aug 25 14:10:05 easy Aug 25 14:10:05 :) Aug 25 14:10:16 2.3.5 ftw :P Aug 25 14:10:23 then some ics love Aug 25 14:10:24 And if you were starting from scratch? Aug 25 14:10:31 a bit harder Aug 25 14:10:31 That's why the image is the most crucial part right now. if someone would dump it then we could have android in a week Aug 25 14:10:42 BatNode Aug 25 14:10:44 its dumped Aug 25 14:10:45 BatNode, if someone could dump it PROPERLY we would have android on it today Aug 25 14:10:46 :P Aug 25 14:10:50 key word being "properly" Aug 25 14:10:54 the dump I've seen is a mess Aug 25 14:10:58 it's a "file dump" in a zip Aug 25 14:11:04 with symlinks broken etc Aug 25 14:11:12 and __MACOSX folders Aug 25 14:11:16 etc Aug 25 14:11:20 I would help out if I did any android work but unfortunately ive never touched it Aug 25 14:11:39 I wish someone with system expertise got the android touchpad Aug 25 14:11:46 Why is it that the only people that got android touchpads are the idiots that don't know what they're doing? Aug 25 14:11:57 whelp, hp.com has shipped them. I get mine on sat Aug 25 14:11:58 lol Aug 25 14:12:12 And the one real chance we had of getting one those faggots at Android Central bought and are going to lock away Aug 25 14:12:16 LOL BatNode Aug 25 14:12:25 well, someone has one Aug 25 14:12:33 and they managed to dump the files from it Aug 25 14:12:37 I could make that into something useful Aug 25 14:12:39 I feel good about the touchdroid team making this happen first Aug 25 14:12:41 if they get the kernel Aug 25 14:12:44 Did that messy file dump help at all? Aug 25 14:12:46 why would they lock it away? Aug 25 14:12:51 BatNode, it will in terms of drivers etc Aug 25 14:13:01 * Decad3nce kills Pulser dead Aug 25 14:13:04 but what we need is a real dd'd dump Aug 25 14:13:06 ohaithar de Aug 25 14:13:11 SO that messy dump did still help a little bit Aug 25 14:13:11 Decad3nce, * Aug 25 14:13:14 BatNode, not sure Aug 25 14:13:17 it's a mess though Aug 25 14:13:20 F7U12 Aug 25 14:13:22 will need cleaned Aug 25 14:13:28 we need to get this guy to dump the files before its sold Aug 25 14:13:33 So are we really beliving that there's android TPs? Aug 25 14:13:39 Araya213, yes, there is a dump Aug 25 14:13:43 someone track where he lives and get him to do it lol Aug 25 14:13:47 LOL Aug 25 14:13:52 in a nice way Aug 25 14:13:57 How can we be sure the dump is from a TP? Aug 25 14:14:05 fuck nice Aug 25 14:14:18 check to see if the location database is on there that everyone has been up in arms about :P Aug 25 14:14:19 cause the subject line in the post says so Aug 25 14:14:28 LOL Aug 25 14:14:31 lol Aug 25 14:14:34 lol Aug 25 14:14:37 case closed Aug 25 14:14:42 I feel like this ebay droidpad is going to clear 2000 Aug 25 14:15:14 It would be cool to just follow the auction and see who wins, then eBay message the guy/gal. Aug 25 14:15:17 maybe that's what the donations taken already should be used for Aug 25 14:15:24 morning all Aug 25 14:15:26 again Aug 25 14:15:27 getting that droidpad Aug 25 14:15:29 spencerelliott, this is a dump of /system Aug 25 14:15:32 hi ProTekk Aug 25 14:15:45 I just want to go on record saying that I don't believe in the Droidpad Aug 25 14:15:49 Can his pad be used to claim the money? Aug 25 14:15:59 lol Aug 25 14:16:05 Araya213 sorry but its going to happen if you believe it or not Aug 25 14:16:05 fuck, i work on a few support tickets and come back to this? Aug 25 14:16:06 lo Aug 25 14:16:06 thats what hes claiming Aug 25 14:16:07 I didn´t believe in it, at first.. but it does seem pretty convincing Aug 25 14:16:15 Guys. Aug 25 14:16:15 Araya213, the androdi touchpad does exist Aug 25 14:16:19 Trust me when I say. Aug 25 14:16:21 Araya213, and I just want to go on record saying that we aren't really here you make you believe in it. Aug 25 14:16:23 Fuck the eBay guy. Aug 25 14:16:24 And yes. Aug 25 14:16:25 its not about the damn money br0s Aug 25 14:16:34 The Android Touchpad exists. And we don't need the eBay guy. Aug 25 14:16:40 screw the money Aug 25 14:16:40 WE ALREADY HAVE A SOURCE TO DUMP FROM. Aug 25 14:16:48 yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayy Aug 25 14:16:50 yes Aug 25 14:16:53 it's there on RW Aug 25 14:16:54 indeed Aug 25 14:16:59 that system dump is DAMN small Aug 25 14:17:01 Araya213: It's legit. Aug 25 14:17:01 its all about the Benjamin's Aug 25 14:17:02 roadkill, that sounded kinda.... nasty if taken in the proper context XD Aug 25 14:17:15 IRONMatt: it's an incomplete dump and we're getting it done properly now. Aug 25 14:17:15 or improper. Aug 25 14:17:17 But whatever. Aug 25 14:17:18 if anything, the ebay guy´s touchpad just means it´s completely possible and can be done through hard work Aug 25 14:17:36 anything can be achieved through hard work Aug 25 14:17:39 gabr10: We don't need the eBay guy. He's irrelevant. Aug 25 14:17:52 There's more than one Android Touchpad out there. Aug 25 14:17:57 well not *anything* :P, can´t bring back Elvis XD Aug 25 14:18:04 IRONMatt: it's an incomplete dump and we're getting it done properly now. Aug 25 14:18:06 Aweslme Aug 25 14:18:07 time machine Aug 25 14:18:10 awesome, roadkill * Aug 25 14:18:13 damn spelling :D Aug 25 14:18:16 you just have to believe Aug 25 14:18:18 lol yeah Aug 25 14:18:22 lol Aug 25 14:18:24 exactly Aug 25 14:18:28 lol Aug 25 14:18:42 We should quit the touchdroid and make a time machine guis Aug 25 14:18:45 lol Aug 25 14:18:48 lol Aug 25 14:19:14 and then change many screwed up decisions made in the past Aug 25 14:19:22 I said it and I'm saying it again. AmigaOS on the TP FTW! Aug 25 14:19:45 lol Aug 25 14:19:48 If these droidpads are real, I would love to hear the story of how they came to be mixed in with the rest of the stock Aug 25 14:19:52 farchord, I want dos Aug 25 14:19:56 You know what, farchord? I'd fucking kill to be back in the AmigaOS era. Aug 25 14:19:58 dos 6.22 Aug 25 14:20:00 nevery will come out Aug 25 14:20:02 arelas: lol Aug 25 14:20:05 Araya213: we keep saying it...they do exist Aug 25 14:20:05 Qualcomm mistake Aug 25 14:20:05 ffs Aug 25 14:20:08 roadkill: lol Aug 25 14:20:18 I know you keep saying it Aug 25 14:20:18 roadkill, I know what you mean Aug 25 14:20:20 Amiga was how the PC should have been done. Aug 25 14:20:22 I keep reading it Aug 25 14:20:33 BBS days were some of the most fun times Aug 25 14:20:35 Discrete components and processors. Aug 25 14:20:36 God. Aug 25 14:20:38 I should check the one I just bought to see if its android OS Aug 25 14:20:39 lol Aug 25 14:20:43 Amigas were awesome machines. Aug 25 14:20:47 does the TouchPad have any way of doing hdmi? Aug 25 14:20:52 spencerelliott: Nope. Aug 25 14:20:53 no Aug 25 14:21:04 i was looking in the build.prop and there's this line ro.hdmi.enable=true Aug 25 14:21:05 too bad really Aug 25 14:21:09 DreamScar_ == Scar from AndIRC? Aug 25 14:21:21 nope Aug 25 14:21:25 spencerelliott, lots in the build.prop Aug 25 14:21:26 sry Aug 25 14:21:28 isn't that important Aug 25 14:21:35 if nothing reads the line Aug 25 14:21:36 I see on ebay they are selling HDMI cables for it but theres no output feed for the port Aug 25 14:21:36 * cypis|away is now away - Reason : eat time Aug 25 14:21:37 lol Aug 25 14:21:37 then it will do nothing Aug 25 14:21:41 [16:14:34] IRONMatt: it's an incomplete dump and we're getting it done properly now. <<<< i understand "We make a (new) proper dump" is it right!? Aug 25 14:21:57 anon314, WELL... you may find it had MHL support through the USB? Aug 25 14:22:01 holy shit theres alot of people here Aug 25 14:22:02 my SGS2 has that, I gather Aug 25 14:22:19 sirana, yes Aug 25 14:22:24 b16 said he's getting a proper dump Aug 25 14:22:29 nice Aug 25 14:22:39 was that meeting in here yesturday? Aug 25 14:22:46 yes Aug 25 14:22:56 sorry that i have often to ask a second time... i'm not understanding everything ... cant speak english very well :/ Aug 25 14:23:23 sirana: It's just the way the dump was done. We're getting proper blocks imaged as we speak. Aug 25 14:23:34 awesome Aug 25 14:23:38 ok Aug 25 14:23:50 fang: ! Aug 25 14:23:54 fang: PM Aug 25 14:23:56 please Aug 25 14:24:06 can't wait to see android working in a couple weeks Aug 25 14:24:46 how many people are in here ?? my mIRC doesnt show the number of people in the channel Aug 25 14:24:57 354 Aug 25 14:25:05 roadkill: is this one just a /system dump or are we getting all the usable parts?/ Aug 25 14:25:14 IRONMatt: The whole of it. Not just a folder. Aug 25 14:25:17 Or a mount point. Aug 25 14:25:21 any one know how to set it up so it shows the amount of people Aug 25 14:25:27 ok Aug 25 14:25:42 roadkill will it be a flashable dump? Aug 25 14:26:14 So this Qualcom android build, is it Froyo, GB, or Honeycomb? Aug 25 14:26:21 froyo Aug 25 14:26:23 2.2.1 Aug 25 14:26:27 lol they have su in it Aug 25 14:26:33 do we have a flash tool yet? Aug 25 14:26:40 relax lol Aug 25 14:26:56 IRONMatt, chill Aug 25 14:26:58 if it doesn't Aug 25 14:26:58 lol we want it now! Aug 25 14:26:58 everyone needs to stop jumping the gun Aug 25 14:27:05 it takes 10 seconds to sort out :P Aug 25 14:27:07 it's not hard Aug 25 14:27:12 Pulser: WTF? im saying it DOES Aug 25 14:27:14 reread that br0 Aug 25 14:27:16 oh Aug 25 14:27:18 sry :P Aug 25 14:27:27 its ok Aug 25 14:27:29 got 3 IMs and 2 IRCs open Aug 25 14:27:30 :P Aug 25 14:27:35 with the guys who are dumping it Aug 25 14:27:36 =D Aug 25 14:28:17 This is interesting indeed Aug 25 14:28:49 indubitubly Aug 25 14:29:05 hmmmmm, are we sure the droidpad has the EXACT hardware as the retail models? Aug 25 14:29:13 Was wondering that as well Aug 25 14:29:16 the dump has a module for 3G Aug 25 14:29:17 * cypis is no longer away : Gone for 7 minutes 40 seconds Aug 25 14:29:24 Wait.. Aug 25 14:29:27 who's dumping what.. Aug 25 14:29:30 topaz_pw_3g Aug 25 14:29:35 HP dumping webOS Aug 25 14:29:53 lol Aug 25 14:29:58 sup jbruchon Aug 25 14:30:06 bruchon! Aug 25 14:30:10 also nice call Araya213 Aug 25 14:30:12 someone did a dump on rootzwiki, although it was not done correctly, it still has alot of stuff Aug 25 14:30:17 IRONMatt: Same hardware with the *possibility* of 3G radio. Unconfirmed. Aug 25 14:30:22 ok Aug 25 14:30:26 no stock in my bestbuy Aug 25 14:30:36 why does this thing take so long to boot up ? Aug 25 14:30:38 Woodbridge Location Aug 25 14:30:40 But the units that are being dumped are factory test units. They're identical to retail. Aug 25 14:30:50 IRONMatt can you link me to the rootzwiki location for that dump Aug 25 14:30:59 yep Aug 25 14:31:08 kk thanx Aug 25 14:31:10 Supari: are you in NJ? Aug 25 14:31:12 yes Aug 25 14:31:14 http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=3692 Aug 25 14:31:18 thnx Aug 25 14:31:20 I wonder if HP even knew that Q was testing android on these things. They may be planning their own product based on the hardware Aug 25 14:31:21 no prob Aug 25 14:31:22 i just checked Aug 25 14:31:22 Supari: where at? I'm in freehold lol Aug 25 14:31:31 Anon314, disable logging. After I did it started up quick Aug 25 14:31:32 im in clark Aug 25 14:31:36 niced Aug 25 14:31:37 nice* Aug 25 14:31:52 i went to woodbrige one the fucker told me We prob wount get any and gave me the cold shoulder like i was some begger Aug 25 14:32:04 Araya213: i doubt it. Qcom is not a manufacturer. The only thing they have ever sold afaik is refrance hardware for their chips Aug 25 14:32:28 Thanks vaps Aug 25 14:32:47 they probably did it for lulz or to see how their chip did on android. There isnt any device that i know of running that chip or androd Aug 25 14:32:56 seaboom.com is a legit website it is NOT a fake. BUT they will not honor ANY orders guys Aug 25 14:33:01 dont even try. Aug 25 14:33:13 no devices run android on that chip Aug 25 14:33:19 so this is a first Aug 25 14:33:30 FIRST! Aug 25 14:33:32 ;) Aug 25 14:33:44 incorrect Aug 25 14:33:48 I hear that there is a pad or phone coming out with this chip with android Aug 25 14:33:52 really? Aug 25 14:33:52 the htc pyramid has the processor and video card Aug 25 14:34:01 Oh really Aug 25 14:34:04 yes Aug 25 14:34:19 theres another as well Aug 25 14:34:20 Araya213: The units that have Android on them are *FACTORY* testing units. The Qualcomm software is there to test the Qualcomm components. Aug 25 14:34:22 thanks for the info on that Aug 25 14:34:34 They got sent straight out of the factory and into retail. Aug 25 14:34:40 Not Qualcomm or otherwise. Aug 25 14:34:42 My new unit does not have android lol Aug 25 14:34:44 anon314, the kernel is not the challenge Aug 25 14:34:49 pyramid (aka sensation) Aug 25 14:34:51 the driver for the video is Aug 25 14:34:53 I wonder why they had android Aug 25 14:35:07 roadkill: that explains the Qcom settings right? Aug 25 14:35:24 swayne1441: Remember when iPods were still Mac only and there were leaked photos of the factory imaging the drives using Windows computers? Aug 25 14:35:29 SamCripp cant you take the driver from the sensation? Aug 25 14:35:34 no Aug 25 14:35:39 is propietary Aug 25 14:35:42 ok Aug 25 14:35:45 yeah that must be why Aug 25 14:35:56 Different OSes get used all the time depending on the tools. Aug 25 14:37:00 people used macs to do the graphics for ubuntu Aug 25 14:37:04 the droidpads definitely have 3g radios. why would they write separate modules and apk's to support them when they are not built into source if they dont have one Aug 25 14:37:24 futureproofing? Aug 25 14:37:42 could, but why futureproof a testing build? Aug 25 14:37:48 hmm Aug 25 14:38:01 http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/301891_10150411738464815_546814814_10753660_663844_n.jpg Aug 25 14:38:02 isn't there supposed to be a 64gb version with 3h? Aug 25 14:38:04 tucking my babies into bed. Aug 25 14:38:10 in europe Aug 25 14:38:13 EliteTek: you'z a daddy?! Aug 25 14:38:21 lol Aug 25 14:38:24 2 BOYS! Aug 25 14:38:26 nigga be trollin' son. Aug 25 14:38:30 for real Aug 25 14:38:31 and i've hacked the shit out of them! Aug 25 14:38:37 EliteTek: odd..... Aug 25 14:38:38 wait.. Aug 25 14:38:41 very... Aug 25 14:38:47 * EliteTek drifts off into the darkness Aug 25 14:38:52 * ProTekk scoots back a few feet Aug 25 14:38:56 anyone tested the ipad with overclock against a stock ipad Aug 25 14:38:57 ? Aug 25 14:38:59 * EliteTek scoots forward Aug 25 14:39:04 *touchpad Aug 25 14:39:12 anon the iPad overclock isn't a real overclock. Aug 25 14:39:16 you can overclock an ipad? Aug 25 14:39:16 * ProTekk runs screaming Aug 25 14:39:18 it's animation excelleration. Aug 25 14:39:29 lol Aug 25 14:39:32 iPad has now had it's cpu man-handled yet. Aug 25 14:39:32 lol really? Aug 25 14:39:33 I meant the overclock on the touchpad against the stock ipad? Aug 25 14:39:35 yeah. Aug 25 14:39:43 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Super-Nintoaster-/280726143017?pt=Video_Games&hash=item415c950029#ht_500wt_1413 Aug 25 14:39:45 IRONMatt: Yeah. SuperKernel does 1.5Ghz, 1.7Ghz patch exists, too. Aug 25 14:39:45 now = not. Aug 25 14:39:56 i'm running 1.7 on my tp atm Aug 25 14:39:56 I want that toaster Aug 25 14:40:00 how much does that kill the battery? Aug 25 14:40:06 at 1.5 Aug 25 14:40:08 it doesn't.. Aug 25 14:40:17 I'm too afraid to run the test feeds Aug 25 14:40:17 1.5 has no differencce Aug 25 14:40:26 Ire: Minimally. Maybe at worst half hour off TOTAL TIME of the battery. Aug 25 14:40:28 nor does 1.7 Aug 25 14:40:34 nice Aug 25 14:40:34 Dreamscar "COME AT ME BRO" Aug 25 14:40:36 1.7 is very nice BTW Aug 25 14:40:47 8-10 hours nominal for wifi and browsing. So barely a half hour off that. Aug 25 14:40:51 I can only get 1.5 to work with f15c Aug 25 14:40:57 havent messed around with it too much Aug 25 14:41:16 I'm only running 1.5 as well Aug 25 14:41:35 anyone else not able to get 1.7 to work on f15c? Aug 25 14:41:42 ITS OFFICIAL Aug 25 14:41:44 IVE PORTED Aug 25 14:41:48 ANDROID Aug 25 14:41:49 SHUT UP Aug 25 14:41:49 TO Aug 25 14:41:51 MY TOASTER! Aug 25 14:41:53 brb coffee Aug 25 14:41:58 ./kick EliteTek Aug 25 14:41:59 does it still make toast? Aug 25 14:42:06 no.. Aug 25 14:42:11 i broke it unfortunately Aug 25 14:42:11 damn shame Aug 25 14:42:11 Waiting for toast drivers Aug 25 14:42:18 anon314, it does but he has to keep his hands on the sides Aug 25 14:42:20 Why the fuck would someone put a super nintendo in a toaster? Aug 25 14:42:22 I think its a completely different kernel for 1.7 Aug 25 14:42:22 eyeballer that's harsh Aug 25 14:42:23 you just need the toaster app from the market Aug 25 14:42:25 * Ironsight plays angry birds on EliteTek's toaster and burns his fingers Aug 25 14:42:27 /kick EliteTek Aug 25 14:42:31 lol, fail Aug 25 14:42:32 ;) Aug 25 14:42:34 n00b Aug 25 14:42:36 lol Aug 25 14:42:48 sup framework Aug 25 14:42:53 l33t d3vz b3 j0!n!ng Aug 25 14:42:58 jbruchon, Good morning/afternoon/evening/night! Aug 25 14:43:09 oh jim carey Aug 25 14:43:11 how i miss you Aug 25 14:43:11 global projects FTW Aug 25 14:43:20 FTMFW Aug 25 14:43:24 roadkill: because it is awesome Aug 25 14:43:28 ooh hai Framework. Aug 25 14:43:36 It's not normal to stick a super nintendo in a toaster... On meth it is. Aug 25 14:43:37 Finish this sentence with the word of your choide: ______ stole my bike! Aug 25 14:43:38 cyberpolice be coming yo Aug 25 14:43:45 Sup Aug 25 14:44:02 you's trollin Aug 25 14:44:05 jbruchon: bait Aug 25 14:44:06 *George washington Aug 25 14:44:06 Michael Jackson Stole MY BIKE! Aug 25 14:44:22 Billy Mays stole my bike! Aug 25 14:44:25 hide yo kids Aug 25 14:44:25 rwest: it was funny last night Aug 25 14:44:29 when i was in spanish class i used to use michael jackson in every possible sentence Aug 25 14:44:37 HAHAHAH Aug 25 14:44:39 bitch stole my bike! Aug 25 14:44:44 Yo quiro Micheal jackson Aug 25 14:44:44 michael jackson tocar mi ninos Aug 25 14:44:51 Billy Mayes here with another fantastiiic offer.. it's called "your reading this in my voice".. Aug 25 14:44:56 spanky34: you just made my dayu Aug 25 14:44:58 me llamo micheal jackson Aug 25 14:45:15 * Ironsight gets out the slap chop Aug 25 14:45:22 Vince is my favourite Aug 25 14:45:26 Billy Mays here with another fantastiiic offer... It's called a stolen bike Aug 25 14:45:29 my spanish teacher wasn't amused but i sure as hell was. Aug 25 14:45:33 I hate vince Aug 25 14:45:40 he slapped around a hooker Aug 25 14:45:45 just wrong Aug 25 14:45:48 supposidly she bit his tounge Aug 25 14:45:48 billy Mays > * Aug 25 14:45:56 What's more disturbing is that he was trying to kiss a hooker Aug 25 14:45:59 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yaw7qX_ZDNE Aug 25 14:46:00 LOL Aug 25 14:46:04 they shouldnt be slapped they should be mutilated Aug 25 14:46:08 * EliteTek high fives Araya Aug 25 14:46:28 * roadkill certainly loved his nuts Aug 25 14:46:29 i heared that chuck norris has a touchpad with ICS Aug 25 14:46:38 I bet he does Aug 25 14:46:47 isnt some one in here that woks for HP IT? Aug 25 14:46:51 In soviet russia touchpad has you Aug 25 14:46:59 Good morning fellow touchpad bros and hos! Aug 25 14:46:59 lol Aug 25 14:47:13 Chuck Norris' touchpad has Symbian Aug 25 14:47:24 i work in a subdivision of HP in my day job. Aug 25 14:47:25 anyone remember that guy from the other day who works for HP IT? Aug 25 14:47:27 The trolls are now posting ads on craigslist saying that certain best buys have pads lol Aug 25 14:47:32 but that's the lengths i'll go to with that info. Aug 25 14:47:38 heh Aug 25 14:47:40 SPY! Aug 25 14:47:44 Some BBs will be stocking today I bet Aug 25 14:47:45 OH NOES Aug 25 14:47:46 SPY SAPPIN' MAH SENTRY! Aug 25 14:47:51 * EliteTek uses cloak Aug 25 14:47:57 I shop alot at best buy for clients and am friendly with some of the staff.....they are hating life right now. Aug 25 14:47:59 * Ironsight smacks the spy with a wrench Aug 25 14:47:59 My local BB got some yesterday, was able to score a 16 for my GF Aug 25 14:48:00 yeah Araya213 I got mine this morning at BB Aug 25 14:48:04 * EliteTek is dead Aug 25 14:48:22 oh noes Aug 25 14:48:24 gj anon Aug 25 14:48:28 nobody recalls the name of such a person? damnit, actually needing IT help for HP's site Aug 25 14:48:30 * Ironsight bangs roadkill's sentry Aug 25 14:48:31 Guys, install Preware on your TP if you hVEN'T Aug 25 14:48:37 dammit Aug 25 14:48:41 Everyone is going based off the store inventory list Aug 25 14:48:47 my best buy had 70 people lines up Aug 25 14:48:52 the other one had 0 Aug 25 14:48:59 where's the damn inventory list? Aug 25 14:49:06 ill send you the link Aug 25 14:49:07 lol Aug 25 14:49:08 one sec Aug 25 14:49:09 thanks Aug 25 14:49:15 \http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olstemplatemapper.jsp?id=pcat17006&type=page&sourceId=1218358284065&sourceType=product&skuId=2842092&productId=1218303031896&itemId=1557949 Aug 25 14:49:35 thats for the 32 Aug 25 14:49:40 I got lucky, went in to grab my in-store delivery of my touchstone and they just happened to be setting them out at just htat moment. Some people had been waiting there all day. I strolled in, got one and got out in literally 5 minutes Aug 25 14:49:48 just change the SKU for the 16 Aug 25 14:49:57 http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/320838_10150265602573822_685143821_7692497_161982_n.jpg Aug 25 14:50:04 just got my dev touchpad. Aug 25 14:50:06 closest one is in indiana... fck that Aug 25 14:50:09 Sunday I waited a grand total of 5 min outside Aug 25 14:50:12 now i ain't bricking my main one Aug 25 14:50:12 GREAT SUCCESS Aug 25 14:50:15 EliteTek, nice Aug 25 14:50:54 I chased them around town on saturday, managed to get a 32 from wal-mart Aug 25 14:50:59 as i really like webos and want to have it at all times heh Aug 25 14:51:00 bowling green has em, but that's a college town.. so fck that too Aug 25 14:51:08 Even in my tiny town those things sold out all over Aug 25 14:51:19 I scored 2/2 Aug 25 14:51:20 I'm not driving 80 miles to fight a bunch of college kids for a tablet Aug 25 14:51:25 I think im done with the madness Aug 25 14:51:35 elitetek that's what dual boot is for Aug 25 14:51:37 The BB shipment yesterday was 8 of each model. These shipments are getting tiny Aug 25 14:51:48 today we had a 20/20 shipment Aug 25 14:51:49 dualboots a while away yet. Aug 25 14:52:04 the stores are deciding weather they want to sell them or not Aug 25 14:52:17 BB employees got most of them, there was a big group of them in line behind me with two a piece Aug 25 14:52:24 someone might die if they don't sell them Aug 25 14:52:30 indeed Aug 25 14:52:34 2 a piece Aug 25 14:52:37 so i bought touchmypad.com and have no idea what to do with it. Aug 25 14:52:39 people are going nuts at the stores though Aug 25 14:52:43 Yelling at employees Aug 25 14:52:45 ideas people kgo Aug 25 14:53:02 [16:48:05] elitetek that's what dual boot is for <<< triple boot would be nice webos/android/ubuntu :D Aug 25 14:53:03 Porn site where women fondle TPs Aug 25 14:53:13 hmm Aug 25 14:53:15 interesting Aug 25 14:53:22 with more porn on the screens :D Aug 25 14:53:31 You know, when I used to work retail years ago, there was a rule, "You can't buy shit while you are on the clock" Aug 25 14:53:31 with pictures of dicks on the screen Aug 25 14:53:35 LOL Aug 25 14:54:02 /kick EliteTek Aug 25 14:54:07 KICK MEH Aug 25 14:54:11 oh Aug 25 14:54:12 okay Aug 25 14:54:14 because if you are buying shit, you can't be working amirite? Aug 25 14:54:18 Ironsight: apparently the FutureShop in my hometown sold TP's to all their employees first and sold what was left over to customers Aug 25 14:54:20 Ironsight: I don't think any of those people were on the clock. They were standing around with everyone else waiting. The Flexi Compas guy tried to grab 3 but one of the BB people got on his nuts and told him he couldn't have any Aug 25 14:54:23 I worked at target and they took that shit seriously Aug 25 14:54:25 haha! Aug 25 14:54:27 REAL SERIOUSLY Aug 25 14:54:30 why'd you do that. Aug 25 14:54:32 srsly Aug 25 14:54:32 jbruchon: you have texting? Aug 25 14:54:41 aop failed. Aug 25 14:54:41 EliteTek: YOU STOLE MY BIKE Aug 25 14:54:45 apparently Aug 25 14:54:46 NEIN Aug 25 14:54:46 brb Aug 25 14:54:55 is your nick registered? Aug 25 14:54:59 oh wow.. Aug 25 14:55:01 A lego one Aug 25 14:55:02 I sold a mellenium falcoln early to a customer on accident and they got fined and I got my ass handed to me for it Aug 25 14:55:04 brb guys Aug 25 14:55:06 got a meeting Aug 25 14:55:07 :/ Aug 25 14:55:09 gay Aug 25 14:55:15 Protekk: yes I do Aug 25 14:55:16 homosex Aug 25 14:55:41 Somehow the line cutters at my location this morning got away with it Aug 25 14:55:44 no one said anything Aug 25 14:55:45 I worked at walmart before I joined the army, I decided I'd rather get shot at Aug 25 14:55:51 lol Aug 25 14:55:54 lol Aug 25 14:56:01 There was no line yesterday, it was a grab Aug 25 14:56:09 It was literlly over in seconds Aug 25 14:56:11 was it during buisness hours Aug 25 14:56:11 ? Aug 25 14:56:19 or at open Aug 25 14:56:24 about 3pm Aug 25 14:56:28 thats why Aug 25 14:56:37 cant imagine that ended well Aug 25 14:56:46 Everyone that was there got one Aug 25 14:56:55 some got 2 Aug 25 14:56:59 did you just wait around the store all day? Aug 25 14:57:03 2??? Aug 25 14:57:03 wow Aug 25 14:57:06 what a fairy tale ending Aug 25 14:57:17 No, I got lucky, was there picking up a touchstone in-store when the truck was on the dock Aug 25 14:57:36 Didn't even intend to get another TP, but since they had em I picked one up for my GF Aug 25 14:57:43 She loves it Aug 25 14:57:44 most of these people I think are buying it just becouse its a deal and disregard the technology Aug 25 14:57:52 this is making the tickle me elmo, and furby incidents seem like nothing Aug 25 14:57:59 exactly! Aug 25 14:58:03 I was just about to say that Aug 25 14:58:15 That's why I bought mine, the fact that it's solid hardware is a plus, but for the price it could be shit for all I care Aug 25 14:58:22 hmm Aug 25 14:58:25 exactly Aug 25 14:58:26 Everyone in line was like this is a POS tablet but its $100 Aug 25 14:58:27 I just wanna browse the web while I poop Aug 25 14:58:47 good choice than Aug 25 14:59:00 that should be the new TP slogan: "Browse. While you poop." Aug 25 14:59:02 I use my phone to poop browse Aug 25 14:59:03 my iphone can be retired for internet use on the pooper Aug 25 14:59:24 Just woke up. What was the issue with the RW touchpad dump? I see they pulled it Aug 25 14:59:25 "Use TP while you poop" Aug 25 14:59:30 damn I have class in 30 min Aug 25 14:59:37 and have 2 hours of sleep Aug 25 14:59:41 fucking touchpad shit Aug 25 14:59:41 2.5 weeks ago, I could give 2 shits about an hp tablet, last week I acted like: http://files.sharenator.com/Shut_up_and_take_my_money_Gues_what_this_is-s500x313-149402-580.jpg Aug 25 14:59:57 lol Aug 25 14:59:59 anon314: fuck it Aug 25 14:59:59 exactly Aug 25 15:00:08 one class 2 hours long Aug 25 15:00:11 don't mind me. Aug 25 15:00:19 skipped yesterday so im going today Aug 25 15:00:19 I haven't slept in like a week Aug 25 15:00:20 I was on the verge of getting a nook color to put CM7 on because I just never thought I'd be able to afford a proper tablet Aug 25 15:00:50 I just spent 599 on my wife's tablet Aug 25 15:00:52 class is not worth the time Aug 25 15:01:00 I didn't go to any of my cs courses Aug 25 15:01:05 I graduated still Aug 25 15:01:10 it's okay, it's a international holiday Aug 25 15:01:23 touchpad day! Aug 25 15:01:25 /quit Aug 25 15:01:26 oh shit Aug 25 15:01:36 I cant wait for this shit to be over with almost Aug 25 15:01:37 and not a single fuck was given that day Aug 25 15:01:38 im getting a motherfucking hurricane?! Aug 25 15:01:44 me too! Aug 25 15:01:51 where are you matt? Aug 25 15:01:53 lol suckers Aug 25 15:01:57 Massachusetts Aug 25 15:01:59 cat 5 irene the motha fucka Aug 25 15:02:01 ahh Aug 25 15:02:03 im in NC Aug 25 15:02:05 yea we're getting hit sunday in MA Aug 25 15:02:08 hurricanes never hit savannah Aug 25 15:02:09 we will get hit first Aug 25 15:02:14 is kentucky due to get hit? Aug 25 15:02:16 its gonna be like a cat1 by then Aug 25 15:02:20 I think you will get it worst though in MA Aug 25 15:02:24 we've no hurricanes in germany :D Aug 25 15:02:24 to be honest Aug 25 15:02:24 so it doesn't really matter Aug 25 15:02:29 just nazis Aug 25 15:02:31 lol Aug 25 15:02:33 lol Aug 25 15:02:38 I am supposed to move on the day it hits haha Aug 25 15:02:40 only in east-germany :D Aug 25 15:02:43 should be interesting Aug 25 15:02:45 rwest where are you? western mass? Aug 25 15:02:45 gotcha Aug 25 15:02:48 and shizer films Aug 25 15:02:56 Lowell, Ma Aug 25 15:03:02 sirana: where in Germany? Aug 25 15:03:08 I live there too Aug 25 15:03:08 OK better get some work done, have fun guys. I expect to have ICS on my TP when I get back Aug 25 15:03:10 Bonn Aug 25 15:03:19 dam i missed grabing the dump Aug 25 15:03:25 Oh ok, like 4 hours from me Aug 25 15:03:30 hehe Aug 25 15:03:30 I live in Schweinfurt Aug 25 15:03:30 ok Aug 25 15:03:31 oh your a bit more west than me. Im in North Andover Aug 25 15:03:36 speaking of dumps, brb Aug 25 15:03:40 lo Aug 25 15:03:43 I am about 20 mins from NA Aug 25 15:03:44 lol Aug 25 15:03:59 Harrison's mmmmmmm Aug 25 15:04:04 :D Aug 25 15:04:07 Bimmer84: living in bonn, working in cologne and girlfriend in essen ;) Aug 25 15:04:16 nice Aug 25 15:04:23 home of the kolsch Aug 25 15:04:24 O_o Aug 25 15:04:30 yes :D Aug 25 15:04:35 essen is a nice area Aug 25 15:05:35 Ironsight: its acutally Scheisse Films Aug 25 15:05:36 lol Aug 25 15:06:04 So you are some sort of expert on the subject? Aug 25 15:06:07 ;) Aug 25 15:06:13 roadkill when you will get the "full dump"? Aug 25 15:06:50 lol, "full dump" when we are talking about scheisse films Aug 25 15:06:56 lol Aug 25 15:06:56 lol Aug 25 15:07:04 I took a full dump Aug 25 15:07:07 had to flush Aug 25 15:07:09 Ironsight: no, thats just how you say it in German Aug 25 15:07:14 :) Aug 25 15:07:17 lol Aug 25 15:07:20 wtf... Aug 25 15:07:22 17:03? Aug 25 15:07:25 i have to go home :D Aug 25 15:07:29 bye Aug 25 15:07:35 tschuss! Aug 25 15:07:46 * Ironsight checks credit card balance in case hp open doors on website again today Aug 25 15:07:55 lol Aug 25 15:08:06 * DreamScar_ checks account balance Aug 25 15:08:09 they better not open that while I am in class Aug 25 15:08:12 114, cutting it close Aug 25 15:08:13 * DreamScar_ cries Aug 25 15:08:24 * LordNibbler pulls the cc out Aug 25 15:08:30 I'll be livid Aug 25 15:08:43 hp is having it's employees hype people up on twitter Aug 25 15:09:23 Ironsight link? or link to some tweets? Aug 25 15:09:30 i wanna see this Aug 25 15:09:31 i figured i havbe enough on the cc to buy about 21-22 32gig Aug 25 15:09:34 no chatter yet this morning Aug 25 15:09:36 #touchpadwatch2011 Aug 25 15:09:46 just "you'll know ehen I know stuff" Aug 25 15:09:47 LordBod Aug 25 15:09:50 when* Aug 25 15:10:06 same crap from yesterday Aug 25 15:10:16 LordNibbler: I'll take some of that monies off your hands Aug 25 15:10:36 wish my main acct had a cc Aug 25 15:10:57 think how much more they will be with android on it. Aug 25 15:11:01 hmm, doesn't look like hp.ca even sells TP's online Aug 25 15:11:01 LordNibbler: they are limiting purchases unfortunately Aug 25 15:11:10 yeah, I need my fart machine app Aug 25 15:11:11 looks like per person if HP reopens Aug 25 15:11:17 according to @Paul_For_HP yesterday Aug 25 15:11:42 I filled out their "notify me" thing Aug 25 15:11:43 wtf that is ok there should be a way around it. spread it around on diffrent cc and diffrent names Aug 25 15:11:53 diffrent addys you know send them to family Aug 25 15:11:53 YES Aug 25 15:11:58 I was thinking the same Aug 25 15:12:00 limiting purchases is GOOD Aug 25 15:12:01 Ironsight, twitter url? Aug 25 15:12:07 fuck all you resell fuckers Aug 25 15:12:20 http://twitter.com/#!/BrynaAtHP Aug 25 15:12:32 http://twitter.com/#!/MarkatHP Aug 25 15:12:46 http://twitter.com/#!/Paul_For_HP Aug 25 15:12:56 follow them and they are the ones that have tghe "updates" Aug 25 15:13:02 f5_for_hp Aug 25 15:13:11 F5 lol Aug 25 15:13:26 actually, they are BEGGING for the f5's to stop, but fck that, pressure them to sell Aug 25 15:13:38 sell or ddos! Aug 25 15:14:00 I have an auto refresh on this pag e:http://www.shopping.hp.com/product/rts_tablet/rts_tablet/1/storefronts/FB359UA%2523ABA Aug 25 15:14:13 glhf Aug 25 15:14:15 hp can't handle the load, wonder what that says about the servers that they sell Aug 25 15:14:22 woot woot on the dump! how long does everyone suppose it will take for a Rom and install guide Aug 25 15:14:31 10 weeks Aug 25 15:14:36 years* Aug 25 15:14:41 frustrated, 24 hours longer than before :P Aug 25 15:14:50 the touchpad 2 will come out before that happens Aug 25 15:15:07 is that dump very significant? Aug 25 15:15:11 I mean, VERY Aug 25 15:15:11 yep Aug 25 15:15:14 yes Aug 25 15:15:14 cool Aug 25 15:15:18 how you do auto-refresh? Aug 25 15:15:18 it only opens the master door Aug 25 15:15:19 lol Aug 25 15:15:23 nice Aug 25 15:15:23 add on to ff Aug 25 15:15:33 what recovery image will be used? AmonRa and Clockwork are both very good Aug 25 15:15:36 extension on chrome Aug 25 15:15:38 we need some bot like in #ubuntu-release-party :) evertime someone asks he answers: and again 1hour later: Aug 25 15:15:58 I hope for cwm Aug 25 15:16:24 I always run AmonRa for my nexus Aug 25 15:16:30 so the touchpads out there running the qualcomm builds of froyo dual booting WebOS? Aug 25 15:16:33 that is the best recovery Aug 25 15:16:38 frustrated, I hope not for cwm Aug 25 15:16:43 Never forget why we like open source: we gain from each others' individual contributions so that the entire group can benefit. Aug 25 15:16:47 I have some old mirc bots I wrote several years ago I could find nd modify Aug 25 15:16:49 auto-refresh for chrome: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/oilipfekkmncanaajkapbpancpelijih?hl=en-US&hc=search&hcp=main Aug 25 15:17:05 dam has any one thaught about contacting hp as a distributer "bb sams" and asking to place a huge order. Aug 25 15:17:55 lord, what? Aug 25 15:18:06 why would they accept large orders? Aug 25 15:18:17 why not they are trying to get rid of them. Aug 25 15:18:30 they are trying to seel them to customers Aug 25 15:18:35 hence the 1 per customer Aug 25 15:18:49 I'm sure youd have to provide some credentials Aug 25 15:18:56 prolly to get their WEBOS out there more since their focus will be webos Aug 25 15:19:59 best buy is still getting shipments of them from hp. what i am talking about is buying a few thousand like best buy does. Aug 25 15:20:00 * Ironsight nods Aug 25 15:20:15 actually, best buy held out Aug 25 15:20:24 then threatend to send em back Aug 25 15:20:28 ah Aug 25 15:20:39 probably shipped em back to their main warehouse Aug 25 15:20:51 I thought HP told them to send them back Aug 25 15:21:00 nooo Aug 25 15:21:09 HP told em to sell Aug 25 15:21:11 You know for damn sure HP paid them to sell them Aug 25 15:21:22 hp probably let stores keep the same markup Aug 25 15:21:25 that's what best buy told me Saturday morning Aug 25 15:21:36 I went to best buy the first day of the sale, and they told me they recalled them in the usa Aug 25 15:21:46 yeah Aug 25 15:21:51 but they were full of it Aug 25 15:22:08 fuckers Aug 25 15:22:08 recall =/= fire sale Aug 25 15:22:28 != Aug 25 15:22:33 I ended up getting mine anyway from staples Aug 25 15:22:38 yeah thanks ire Aug 25 15:23:20 where did I get =/= from? the sleep deprivation? Aug 25 15:23:25 had to get a 32vtho Aug 25 15:23:40 if I have my way I will have 2 16's Aug 25 15:24:02 I wanted a 16. I don't really need 32gb Aug 25 15:24:02 (one's being filled by datavis) Aug 25 15:24:45 but there was only one to left in the whole city so I bought it Aug 25 15:25:04 hey Aug 25 15:25:12 http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=3692 Aug 25 15:25:34 its updated with the new dump it looks like Aug 25 15:25:42 woot! Aug 25 15:26:16 grabbing now Aug 25 15:26:42 Great, but.... how does it work? Aug 25 15:26:46 that was quick Aug 25 15:26:49 yes it was Aug 25 15:27:05 i can not wait to open it. m;ight have a nerdgasem Aug 25 15:27:44 by the end of the morning, this channel'll be stickier than a beehive.... Aug 25 15:27:48 farchord: it's just the dump, not a rom Aug 25 15:27:53 ahh ok Aug 25 15:28:15 http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=3692&p=75335#post75335 Aug 25 15:28:15 updated guys Aug 25 15:28:15 go get it Aug 25 15:28:15 not intended for the average user Aug 25 15:28:15 contaions .img files Aug 25 15:28:15 please dont download if you dont know what your doing Aug 25 15:28:17 its of no use for normal users Aug 25 15:28:22 just fyi Aug 25 15:28:29 ahhhh Aug 25 15:28:51 2 min to go Aug 25 15:29:56 ill probably download it for lulz Aug 25 15:30:08 it is sloooow Aug 25 15:30:20 only at 40 mb >.< Aug 25 15:30:20 any word of what works? camera, wifi, sleep, etc.? Aug 25 15:30:21 1 min Aug 25 15:30:50 i hear it only comes up with a picture of a paper weight Aug 25 15:30:53 anon54613 they have written modules for wifi so im assuming it works Aug 25 15:30:56 also, would it be cool if i started a torrent of it? Aug 25 15:31:00 and camera works in the video Aug 25 15:31:05 for speed reasons Aug 25 15:31:09 sleep does as well in the video Aug 25 15:31:15 k neat Aug 25 15:31:44 Hey, requested no redistrib Aug 25 15:31:47 k Aug 25 15:31:54 So technically, all people have to do then is decompile the drivers, update to the latest android build, and compile the drivers for it Aug 25 15:32:01 mmmm so sexy it is Aug 25 15:32:04 got it done opend Aug 25 15:32:24 a torrent would be faster, at least mirror the thing Aug 25 15:32:31 wait, there's a working version up? Aug 25 15:32:39 i would mirror is but it says not to Aug 25 15:32:45 they have asked not to upload it anywhere but the original soure Aug 25 15:32:54 there's a rom dump available Aug 25 15:33:24 anon54613 huh? Aug 25 15:33:31 ssytem dump Aug 25 15:33:36 I like dump Aug 25 15:33:41 i was replying to siestacatontp Aug 25 15:33:45 has anyone flashed it successfully? Aug 25 15:33:49 so what coudl be the worst case? Aug 25 15:33:54 Can't flash it yet. Aug 25 15:33:54 ok Aug 25 15:33:59 there isn't a rom yet peeps.. Aug 25 15:34:02 hmm interesting. Aug 25 15:34:09 its not a flammable rom Aug 25 15:34:17 har har Aug 25 15:34:18 flashable* Aug 25 15:34:20 this is a dump of EVERYTHING afaik Aug 25 15:34:20 its only 2.1 Aug 25 15:34:26 It's not a flashable rom, but it's amazing to see how much closer we are now to one Aug 25 15:34:33 *I'll take 2.1 over web OS Aug 25 15:34:33 siestacatontp: 2.2.1 Aug 25 15:34:38 did everything function on the actual tablet? wifi, etc? Aug 25 15:34:40 I'm a webOS user Aug 25 15:34:42 yeah this is a huge step Aug 25 15:34:48 cause that means it has all the drivers Aug 25 15:34:52 which is huge Aug 25 15:35:04 it would have to dual boot to convince any of is Aug 25 15:35:04 48 hrs till a dev has it up and running 52 till beta rom is out is my guess just a prof of concept at that point Aug 25 15:35:07 yeah Aug 25 15:35:08 lonequid: the video shows functional camera and sleep, and from the dump im assuming wifi works Aug 25 15:35:09 why are you in #touchdroid if your a WebOS user? Aug 25 15:35:19 Then they can just adapt the drivers for the latest android Aug 25 15:35:24 and BAM! New android! :) Aug 25 15:35:29 so can those modules be loaded in to another Android kernel theoretically? Aug 25 15:35:29 LordNibbler: Where are these guesses coming from? Aug 25 15:35:32 i agree i does look like wifi is good to go. Aug 25 15:35:48 damn i just got to licking webos :P Aug 25 15:35:51 thin air and past ports and productions from a smaller team Aug 25 15:35:52 s/licking/liking/ Aug 25 15:35:56 Licking WebOS? Aug 25 15:35:58 How does it taste Aug 25 15:36:02 delicious Aug 25 15:36:10 like raw batter Aug 25 15:36:14 extracting... Aug 25 15:36:18 delicious but i know i shouldnt be eating it Aug 25 15:36:18 Till THE GOD DAMN TABLET CRASHES WHEN YOU TRY TO FUCKING DO ANYTHING ON IT ARRRRG Aug 25 15:36:29 lolololol Aug 25 15:36:38 Fuck this is why I got rid of my Palm Pre Aug 25 15:36:41 damn Aug 25 15:36:42 WebOS isn't that bad. Just no support. Aug 25 15:36:48 yeah, i wish webOS gave something when an app crashes like Android does Aug 25 15:36:52 not me but i have not played with a stock one. Aug 25 15:36:53 if they get android on the TP this fast then there will be no interest in making an emulator Aug 25 15:37:24 well the processor is stable at 1.7 at least i did not have any issues with it Aug 25 15:37:36 would be nice to have an emu too Aug 25 15:37:44 WebOS is still supported.. there will probably be more OS updates Aug 25 15:37:50 lol, nothing has been developed... we just have a dump now Aug 25 15:37:58 hp is going to support webos for a while now Aug 25 15:38:02 what does that meabn Aug 25 15:38:05 i really really like the multitasking and notification area in webos and wish it were in android Aug 25 15:38:12 likewise Aug 25 15:38:14 hell they might even make up all of the money they lost with the discount through app commissions over time Aug 25 15:38:46 probably not all of it but a good chunk of change Aug 25 15:39:07 lonequid, indeed Aug 25 15:39:27 though this has to be the craziest razorblade marketing tactic ever Aug 25 15:39:28 they lost about $200 on each sale Aug 25 15:39:42 whats the app store cut Aug 25 15:39:43 they won't get anywhere close to that in sales Aug 25 15:39:51 and if they want me to spend 200+ on apps, they had better be some smokin apps Aug 25 15:39:56 I'm weary of buying apps on webOS because I'll never use them once I have android Aug 25 15:40:21 true and the selction sucks Aug 25 15:40:25 I better see an app that calls in to work for me sick when I fail to wake up with the alarm Aug 25 15:40:42 i want a goddamn ftp app Aug 25 15:40:46 dam Ironsight great idea Aug 25 15:40:50 why doesnt that exist Aug 25 15:40:53 I prefer an email sent with the title: WFH Aug 25 15:40:54 I've only purchased advanced browser so far Aug 25 15:40:54 at least a txt email to work Aug 25 15:40:58 and Ironsight, they only get 30% on apps that don't make Aug 25 15:41:46 firestar because I'd love to have the app support that android has as a secondary os Aug 25 15:41:57 yay! Aug 25 15:42:12 2.2 = one of the oddballs that shipped with android? Aug 25 15:42:16 <[koss]> anyone get amazon credit for onsale cancel? Aug 25 15:42:27 i've bought a couple games...probably not the best idea since Android will be on the tablet soon enough :\ Aug 25 15:42:29 xust-droid2: yes Aug 25 15:42:40 jbruchon, man, this touchdroid release is.... so.... gonna make hot chicks lust over you! XD Aug 25 15:42:41 [koss]: nope Aug 25 15:43:20 poor hot chicks Aug 25 15:43:23 so has anyone successfully ran the dump on another touchpad. Aug 25 15:43:26 ? Aug 25 15:43:37 lol siestacatontp Aug 25 15:43:38 <[koss]> who dumped 2.2 ? Aug 25 15:43:39 if hp can sell $1bil in apps theyll make back what htey lost with the firesale :P Aug 25 15:43:39 doesn't work like that Aug 25 15:43:41 http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=3692 Aug 25 15:43:42 I've took a dump while holding a touchpad, doe sthat count? Aug 25 15:43:49 [koss], yes Aug 25 15:44:11 man all this talk about dumping, makes my immature personality want to pop bad jokes.... Aug 25 15:44:13 hmm it would be nice if google bought webos Aug 25 15:44:14 FULL FLASH FILESYSTEM LAYOUT: http://pastebin.com/WFkur8vh SIZES OF ALL IMAGES: http://pastebin.com/hjXFZQt5 Aug 25 15:44:17 * farchord attempts to retain himself. Aug 25 15:44:22 farchord do it, it's fun Aug 25 15:44:49 * Ironsight is jelly og descending Aug 25 15:44:52 [koss]: Touchdroid team with Droidball did the dumping in the past 2 hours. Aug 25 15:44:53 I'd like to buy a bowel, alex Aug 25 15:44:54 of* Aug 25 15:45:20 <[koss]> is it not possible to make a flashable dump, easily? Aug 25 15:45:25 No. Aug 25 15:45:29 It's not a rom. Aug 25 15:45:35 And it's not there for flashing. Aug 25 15:45:49 <[koss]> yeah im just saying, is there no method of cloning devices? Aug 25 15:45:52 This month pot dealers noticed a steep decline in profits when all of there customers spent their money on touchpads Aug 25 15:45:58 so...im guessing its harder than just copying all of the files from the rom dump to their respective directories Aug 25 15:46:10 yes a little bit more than that Aug 25 15:46:15 dang lol Aug 25 15:46:43 anon54613: Using images to get Android on your unit would require some pretty amazing factory software that nobody but HP has. Aug 25 15:47:17 not even webos internals? Aug 25 15:47:19 I dunno. You can pick up some amazing software at goodwill Aug 25 15:47:23 hp should have helped Aug 25 15:47:27 cat 1.img > /dev/sdc1 Aug 25 15:47:29 i win! lol Aug 25 15:47:31 it is comming anon54613 just wait Aug 25 15:47:31 perfect time to jump into the "open source" world Aug 25 15:47:44 alright, fair enough Aug 25 15:47:46 neejay Hp is helping, but accidently shipping android on units :) Aug 25 15:47:48 no better time not better project Aug 25 15:48:00 and not locking the touchpad Aug 25 15:48:09 that was not in HP best intrest. a big whoops. Aug 25 15:48:27 <[koss]> looks like qualcomm themselves made the android rom? Aug 25 15:48:37 that was the rumor Aug 25 15:48:45 eh...true Aug 25 15:48:49 laptopfreek0, lol, just had a mind flash of an HP-logo wearing girl, wearing a japanese schoolgirl uniform, doing the naughty 'oops' pause Aug 25 15:48:51 <[koss]> i wonder if all touchpads had android on them at one point Aug 25 15:48:52 not to [koss] Aug 25 15:48:53 probably true though since they have power to do so Aug 25 15:49:09 <[koss]> or how exactly a few ship with android Aug 25 15:49:09 qualcomm should help Aug 25 15:49:10 lol Aug 25 15:49:12 farchord: lol Aug 25 15:49:26 <[koss]> maybe android is used to load webos ;) that'd be funny Aug 25 15:49:28 they all used to be human once... then one day in the proffessors lab... Aug 25 15:49:34 <[koss]> and the "pretty amazing software" is infact android Aug 25 15:50:06 <[koss]> in the dump, is there any interesting apps specific to the touchpad? Aug 25 15:50:16 the statement pdf is freakin massive, do you guys not optimize the pdf file before you post it? Aug 25 15:50:18 <[koss]> perhaps a diag or a rom loading app Aug 25 15:50:20 I dunno, take a webos binary and try to package it for android :P Aug 25 15:50:52 [koss]: see the "Production Test Tool" app in the video - it's pretty obvious what this image is Aug 25 15:51:02 scored a 32 gig at bb this morning Aug 25 15:51:03 woohoo Aug 25 15:51:06 now time to finally get some work done Aug 25 15:51:11 congrats Aug 25 15:51:13 niice Aug 25 15:51:20 ive wasted 3 days trying to find one, now that i found one, i need to leave it in the box and be productive Aug 25 15:51:20 lol Aug 25 15:51:21 hehehe he scored Aug 25 15:51:23 so your bb actually got extra touchpads? Aug 25 15:51:31 yea they got 70 in last night Aug 25 15:51:34 sold 20 at 830 pm Aug 25 15:51:36 70!?!?!! Aug 25 15:51:38 neejay: One thing we can tell you now is that the Android units that have been released into retail... came straight from the factory, not from Qualcomm. These factory testing units just had testing software made by Qualcomm on them. Aug 25 15:51:39 wow Aug 25 15:51:41 my gd Aug 25 15:51:53 the little best buy store inventory thing changed to "in stores only" for the bb right by work Aug 25 15:52:02 so i got there at 730 this morning and was 16th in line Aug 25 15:52:20 Just got off the phone with HP tech support. Last time i but the support upgrate. They said they would not help me put andriod on my tablet Aug 25 15:52:21 a dude a couple spots in front of me told me that he cmae last night and got one, and explained that they got 70, w ould have 50 this morning, etc.. Aug 25 15:52:22 * Ironsight is jelly Aug 25 15:52:23 so i camped out Aug 25 15:52:33 <[koss]> http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/25/alleged-hp-touchpad-running-android-appears-can-be-yours-on-eba/ Aug 25 15:54:16 what has happend to the git repo? Aug 25 15:55:26 lol $710 dollars Aug 25 15:55:37 its gone up Aug 25 15:55:44 HP is trying to buy it back Aug 25 15:56:17 "Pl note that the winner of this sale can use this to apply for the $1500 bounty this touchpad will be eligible for" oh god Aug 25 15:56:35 not the damn bounty Aug 25 15:56:45 bidding 1500 now as the bounty is now at 2000 Aug 25 15:56:51 that does NOT count Aug 25 15:56:58 isnt it to release it to the public? Aug 25 15:57:04 IRONMatt that was from the HP Android ebay auction Aug 25 15:57:33 well id a dev buys it and makes a rom from that dump it would count. Aug 25 15:57:55 or they could just swipe the rom dump from that website Aug 25 15:58:07 and not pay that d-bag $700 Aug 25 15:58:25 yeah, what an asshole Aug 25 15:58:31 it would be nice to see if there where any diffs between them Aug 25 15:58:34 good thing someone else has another Aug 25 15:59:34 I am glad a 15 year-old punk is no longer involved - apologize in advance if mose of the team is 15 - lol Aug 25 15:59:35 i wonder if it will go over $1000. "hurr i can get $1500 for this" Aug 25 16:00:35 housePoor2, I know some 15 year olds that are smarter than your average adult.... Aug 25 16:00:52 but generaly they lack the socail skills Aug 25 16:01:05 kids are kids Aug 25 16:01:07 Yes indeed - that why i put the punk part in Aug 25 16:01:31 Your average adult isn't that smart, you're already smarter than half of them. Aug 25 16:01:41 hell my son at two knows how to run the laptop Aug 25 16:01:51 yeah, but since that is all over Aug 25 16:02:00 as soon as we get the reading down it is time to start teaching him programing. Aug 25 16:02:05 how bout moving a more... positive topic Aug 25 16:02:07 i could use a laptop when i was 4 Aug 25 16:02:19 my hope is that before he is in 3rd grade that he can out program me. Aug 25 16:02:20 speaking of which... anyone here know how to use arduino? Aug 25 16:02:23 When I was 4 we didn't have laptops Aug 25 16:02:24 i dont even remember the first time i used a computer lol Aug 25 16:02:25 I am sitting on 7 Touchpads - what to do? Aug 25 16:02:25 we should flash these images and sell our touchpads for 2K Aug 25 16:02:30 we had sticks Aug 25 16:02:34 housepoor2, sell it? Aug 25 16:02:36 or gift it Aug 25 16:02:40 HousePoor2: sell them to devs Aug 25 16:02:50 [Ironsight] same here Aug 25 16:02:50 i know a group of devs that would love to work on it Aug 25 16:03:06 yep Aug 25 16:03:09 Well, I was born in 82, so we had desktops Aug 25 16:03:18 the virtuousrom team are looking for touchpads i believe Aug 25 16:03:22 Should I crack them open to see if they have Android? Aug 25 16:03:37 its like the golden ticket Aug 25 16:03:45 HousePoor2: We already have a full dump of Android. Aug 25 16:03:57 But if you get one, good on you. Saves you the trouble of flashing it ;) Aug 25 16:04:03 yeah, but you can still sell to some saps for 700+ on ebay Aug 25 16:04:13 so i'm assuming that the team is looking at it to see the changes? Aug 25 16:04:18 Ironsight: Hopefully the image release will put a stop to the price gouging. Aug 25 16:04:23 i would check to see if they have win mobile on them Aug 25 16:04:40 what's the difference between a dump and s rom? Aug 25 16:04:46 I am attempting to get DRDOS booting Aug 25 16:04:46 mputtr: The dev channel is more active than this one despite having less than 1/10th the people. ;) Aug 25 16:04:59 :) Aug 25 16:05:05 a dump is just well a dump look in the toilet and rom is a nice packaged peice of food Aug 25 16:05:08 It's fuckin' Christmas Day for them. Aug 25 16:05:08 i'm pretty sure since you guys got a massive 2nd wind Aug 25 16:05:22 they probably came preloaded with hp printer roms Aug 25 16:05:29 so what is your priority now that you got a dump straight from a touchpad? Aug 25 16:05:32 heh Aug 25 16:05:35 just out of curiosity Aug 25 16:05:39 i sent my mom door to door to each of the devs to relieve them of their drama from yesterday. Aug 25 16:06:04 mputtr: finding out how it boots and making that possible on a Touchpad. It's probably going to be a custom kernel instead of using anything from the image dump. Aug 25 16:06:08 i still need to send one to my mom XD Aug 25 16:06:15 its in the topic^ Aug 25 16:06:28 so. compiling the kernel is the hard part i would assume Aug 25 16:06:33 meh Aug 25 16:06:53 meh, not really. We got some good folks. Custom kernels have already been made, it's all sourced. Aug 25 16:07:01 oh nice! Aug 25 16:07:27 For those curious... Full Flash Filesystem Layout: http://pastebin.com/WFkur8vh Sizes of all images: http://pastebin.com/hjXFZQt5 Aug 25 16:07:29 so once you find out how it boots on the touchpad, you're porting a gb rom on it i heard? Aug 25 16:07:42 mputtr: Pokemon Red. Aug 25 16:07:45 The best one. Aug 25 16:07:45 <-- would like to learn about these proceses Aug 25 16:08:00 0.o Aug 25 16:08:05 lol Aug 25 16:08:13 Soon everyone will be catching pokemans Aug 25 16:08:15 i've only played pokemon yellow :) Aug 25 16:08:16 on their touchpads Aug 25 16:08:32 it's not a successful platform unless there's a gameboy emulator for it and i can play pokemon red Aug 25 16:08:32 Is there a mode +U? Aug 25 16:08:45 I wanna play ff7 on my touchpad Aug 25 16:08:48 call me crazy :P Aug 25 16:08:49 thanks roadkill Aug 25 16:08:54 Personally, I been sitting and waiting in the shadows here for all the drama to come down, would like to know state of things of what is needed next, as I would like to get my hands dirty on some code here soon.. Aug 25 16:08:59 i just want an android tablet... Aug 25 16:08:59 that and frekaing fftactics Aug 25 16:09:26 gnubug: i would talk to an OP Aug 25 16:09:32 once i can put android on the tablet, i'm going to put android on it and give it to my mom Aug 25 16:09:37 as a laptop replacement Aug 25 16:09:41 @roadkill only if I can catch a bugdroid! Aug 25 16:09:42 she needs one reall bad Aug 25 16:11:54 can i join the dev chat in a read-only mode? Aug 25 16:11:58 i hope you guys figure it out soon and pop out an instructions page soon XD. Aug 25 16:12:11 i cant wait to get some android loving on the touchpad Aug 25 16:12:28 mputtr: hopefully you can wait. it's going to be awhile. Aug 25 16:12:32 mputtr, as far as I know, porn sites work on webOS Aug 25 16:12:44 i can wait groan :P Aug 25 16:12:52 farchord, i watch that stuff on my computer Aug 25 16:12:52 I can confirm port on webOS Aug 25 16:12:57 porn* Aug 25 16:13:05 i wanna get ti working so i can bring it on set for script supervision Aug 25 16:13:10 mputtr, I agree but it's hard to bring your computer in the bathroom... Aug 25 16:13:13 HousePoor2: Only those that need to be in there are in there right now. It's pretty crowded as is. Aug 25 16:13:21 pron + xbmc + xbmc remote app + big screen tv + surround sound Aug 25 16:13:21 thanks i figured Aug 25 16:13:33 lol. i dont need to hide my porn habits :P Aug 25 16:13:36 We're pretty much releasing everything asap. No wait. No need to. We're not preparing announcements. Aug 25 16:13:44 rwest, might scare the kids walking down the street hahahaha Aug 25 16:13:55 mputtr: yeah. treat it like a 401k. put it in the corner and wait for quarterly updates. Aug 25 16:14:06 The real dev work will still take time despite having an image dump. The image dump just helps us to figure out how things were working on the factory testing unit. Aug 25 16:14:26 i figured it would take some time Aug 25 16:14:36 but nothign wrong with a little hope :) Aug 25 16:14:40 ETA: Christmas Aug 25 16:14:43 so this dump contains compiled code of the low-level device drivers required? Aug 25 16:14:48 Year Unknown Aug 25 16:14:55 Yeah. No source. Just the binaries. Aug 25 16:14:56 i'm not about to cry and moan for a faster work Aug 25 16:15:17 Good news: 3D drivers for Android. Aug 25 16:15:22 member:roadkill : what code work is stressed right now and how can I help? Aug 25 16:15:44 as long as this doesn't turned into duke nukem forever XD Aug 25 16:15:56 naw. someone will do it. Aug 25 16:15:59 yeah, sounds like the dump was a huge help, but still a long way to go...thanks to all the touchdroid devs Aug 25 16:16:07 too many people have bought into the hardware Aug 25 16:16:23 yup Aug 25 16:16:24 mputtr: Remember how many people were screaming the Android Touchpad was fake and nothing will ever come of it? 4 days ago. Aug 25 16:16:30 Long week. Aug 25 16:16:31 oh yeahhh Aug 25 16:16:33 that was funny to read Aug 25 16:16:39 We've got a friggin full dump now. Aug 25 16:16:41 is the current WebOS 2-D accelerated on TouchPad - if so the hardware blows Aug 25 16:16:43 all these articles about "YOU'RE STUPID TO BUY TP FOR ANDROID" Aug 25 16:16:44 At no cost to anyone. Aug 25 16:16:52 roadkill: i know its not usually a thing to do, but with the progress, what do you see as an ETA? within the day or week(s) out? Aug 25 16:17:01 ironmatt... no Aug 25 16:17:13 let them work without asking them the ETA Aug 25 16:17:19 and it'll annoy the devs less Aug 25 16:17:23 IRONMatt: I would have no way of even saying so. No ETA. Aug 25 16:17:28 kk Aug 25 16:17:44 Eta hurt the project and sets expectations, which isn't what this about Aug 25 16:18:01 You might be able to trade for an ipad or nook running android from someone on craigslist if you're really antsy Aug 25 16:18:07 the cell phone comparisons (Sensation, etc.) are not relevant for hardware comparisons - Touchpad pushing WAY more pixels Aug 25 16:18:45 people really want this thing. even the people that have working tablets. Aug 25 16:18:54 webos has no apps. sucks really. Aug 25 16:19:24 There really aren't that many. Aug 25 16:19:24 And the apps it does have are in phone format Aug 25 16:19:31 yep Aug 25 16:19:34 not all apps are in phone format Aug 25 16:19:40 It has one decent comic book reading app, good enough for me Aug 25 16:19:42 the majority are. Aug 25 16:19:45 i use the browser and the florida gator news reader. Aug 25 16:19:47 that's it Aug 25 16:19:59 for $100 who gives a fuck? Aug 25 16:19:59 jonny_eh: I noticed it would be good for that. Aug 25 16:20:11 * Graxe was messing with preader? as well. Aug 25 16:20:14 for ebooks. Aug 25 16:20:29 yeah. i have to look at preader. maybe i'll try it out this afternoon. Aug 25 16:20:37 Groan: It's not horrible except that Hulu blocked Touchpads... and Flash video has a tendency to crash if you scroll the browser page while a video is playing. Aug 25 16:20:51 jonny_eh: Comics HD is awesome. Aug 25 16:20:51 It seemed to have a hard time adding books. Aug 25 16:21:02 roadkill: i'm assuming you mean the browser? Aug 25 16:21:33 Groan: Yeah. The Browser, if you play a Youtube video embedded into a page and scroll the page while the video is still going... the video will freeze. Audio continues, but no more video. Aug 25 16:22:00 Very annoying bug when you play something and read the rest of the page during a boring part in the video. Aug 25 16:22:01 to be honest, i just got it to be an ereader and occasional browsing. Aug 25 16:22:09 and maybe i'll try video chat. Aug 25 16:22:11 and going full-screen forces a particular orientation, no big deal Aug 25 16:22:23 just quirks. Aug 25 16:22:25 no dealbreakers. Aug 25 16:22:25 Did you know that if you have Youtube videos in full screen, you can fastforward/rewind by swiping? Aug 25 16:22:54 anon54613: I just want to know how the fuck they expected people to be able to use the inplayer volume slider (sometimes it's not set to max when your system volume is) with the touchscreen Aug 25 16:22:58 can anybody tell me how to access the dump file .img's? I tried using cygwin1 an unyaffs but it doesn't decompile.. I'm guessing the touchpad doesn't use that file system? or am I doing something wrong.. Aug 25 16:23:14 n388mm: they're DD image dumps. Aug 25 16:23:15 has anyone looked at this? http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Bootie Aug 25 16:23:20 i wish loading a flash fullscreen blocked the browser from scrolling Aug 25 16:23:23 i want to play defend your castle Aug 25 16:23:24 Raw filesystem dumps. Aug 25 16:24:10 ah. that would explain.. lol thanks Aug 25 16:24:24 ...why are there little children playing in my yard? Aug 25 16:25:31 they are scoping out your touchpad Aug 25 16:25:40 waiting for you to leave Aug 25 16:25:59 lol Aug 25 16:26:08 i no haz yet Aug 25 16:26:47 Everyone: My primary means of communication is @jbruchon on Twitter during the day. I also work a lot during the day, so don't expect me to respond for an extended period of time if you write to me. Thanks. Aug 25 16:26:54 what the FUCK? now there is a commercial looking for cocaine addicts. its one of those medical trials Aug 25 16:27:13 IRONMatt: know anyone who owns an iPad? Aug 25 16:27:14 "You must be 18 or older and take cocaine on a regular basis" Aug 25 16:27:17 * jbruchon snickers Aug 25 16:27:25 jbruchon lol all my friends do Aug 25 16:27:34 * jbruchon snickers x9001 Aug 25 16:27:48 I can not affored coke any more so i moved on to meth so i can get more touchpads Aug 25 16:28:08 blue meth? Aug 25 16:28:14 hp answer Aug 25 16:28:47 YAY Aug 25 16:28:54 check that status bitch Aug 25 16:29:03 somethings wrong with the PDF on touch-driod.com its loading super slow Aug 25 16:29:32 they are sending my touchpad in 24-48 hours Aug 25 16:30:23 getting my touchpad today :D Aug 25 16:30:46 ffffuuuuu Aug 25 16:30:56 ;D Aug 25 16:31:37 im naked, btw. time to put clothes on Aug 25 16:31:56 thx for sharing Aug 25 16:31:59 don't do it again Aug 25 16:32:07 hopefully im getting my surplus tomorrow Aug 25 16:36:04 im not naked anymore Aug 25 16:36:09 time to play minecraft Aug 25 16:36:24 hmm Aug 25 16:36:34 re Aug 25 16:37:25 is there a possible way to flash the new dump? Aug 25 16:38:01 no Aug 25 16:38:15 ok Aug 25 16:38:51 whats the new dump? Aug 25 16:38:54 how was the dump taken? adb? oder dd Aug 25 16:38:56 2. Aug 25 16:38:59 2.2.1 Aug 25 16:39:04 dd Aug 25 16:39:25 wait we have a tp dump of 2.2.1? Aug 25 16:39:39 yep Aug 25 16:39:49 i see Aug 25 16:39:55 LordNibbler: is that an image of that touchpad that got shipped with the qualcomm android build? Aug 25 16:40:06 from what i know yes it is Aug 25 16:40:13 dd copy of the filesystems Aug 25 16:40:22 http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=3692 Aug 25 16:41:05 is there adb working on the android-tab. with some sort of recovery? Aug 25 16:41:42 i mean the TP has something like that, or what is the usb-mode? power and vol+ ? Aug 25 16:42:19 glad that trsohmers kids is no longer in this channel/project(?) Aug 25 16:42:36 he is 16 years old? Aug 25 16:42:40 15 Aug 25 16:42:55 Then we can forgive him a little bit Aug 25 16:43:02 he is not mature enough Aug 25 16:43:19 abe2k i believe it's power and vol + Aug 25 16:43:39 Always falunting his MIT credentials even though he is not even a student, acting as if he is the only one with an "elite" educational background Aug 25 16:43:44 *flaunting Aug 25 16:43:51 does anyone know why mirc client on windows is beeping at me - what is best windows client? Aug 25 16:44:01 I used kvirc Aug 25 16:44:03 *use Aug 25 16:44:04 HousePoor2: /ebeeps off Aug 25 16:44:08 but you probably have a channel scrolled up Aug 25 16:44:12 dont use windows Aug 25 16:44:15 thx Aug 25 16:44:17 HousePoor silverex Aug 25 16:44:17 Does the dump help the progress a lot? Aug 25 16:44:22 yes Aug 25 16:44:31 http://webchat.freenode.net/ Aug 25 16:44:43 it shows how everything works and is layed out Aug 25 16:44:52 a great base to start from Aug 25 16:44:56 also gives a great head start for drivers Aug 25 16:44:57 and drivers! Aug 25 16:45:06 dont forget the drivers Aug 25 16:45:24 when is hp suposed to start selling agian Aug 25 16:45:36 hurricanes bring rain! no more drought. Aug 25 16:45:55 thanks Aug 25 16:46:27 I wonder how many are on container ships comming accross right now. Aug 25 16:46:41 cai: It helps because it's a working system that can be tested against and reverse engineered. However, the dump itself is not something that can be used for a rom because it's unlicensed binaries and not source code. Aug 25 16:47:09 Thanks for the explanation Aug 25 16:47:24 i think coz of the laws they had to produce until the officially claim to stop webos. so there should be some devices left Aug 25 16:47:30 I know nothing but How can i look at the img?? Aug 25 16:47:40 is it just binary code? Aug 25 16:48:41 cai: if you know nothing, it's not going to help you. Aug 25 16:48:54 thank Aug 25 16:48:58 i am just curious Aug 25 16:49:11 [cai] use google it will helpl Aug 25 16:49:16 everybody learn from knowing nothing, right? Aug 25 16:49:19 thanks Aug 25 16:49:36 hey wtf, does this thing not have wpa2? Aug 25 16:49:37 thanks for http://webchat.freenode.net/ - very handy Aug 25 16:50:04 i use it at work real easy right? Aug 25 16:50:22 i have mirc @ work :D Aug 25 16:50:28 i use the opera browser and it works fine at work Aug 25 16:50:33 irssi ftw Aug 25 16:50:40 irc in a terminal Aug 25 16:50:49 at home its irssi Aug 25 16:50:56 xchat Aug 25 16:50:58 i use mibbit for everything but freenode Aug 25 16:51:15 silverex is xchat for free for windowsd Aug 25 16:51:37 hey seriously, dont make me use CAPS, does this thing not have wpa2 support natively? Aug 25 16:51:41 and why the heck is there no irc app in official store? Aug 25 16:51:47 i sue lynx for broswing the internet cut back on ads a lot Aug 25 16:51:49 There is an official xchat for windows Aug 25 16:52:05 RobbieJ: yep, which costs money Aug 25 16:52:09 i connect to WPA2 just fine on WebOS Toucpad Aug 25 16:52:12 LordNibbler: firefox + adblock > lynx Aug 25 16:52:24 housepoor3, did you select enterprise? Aug 25 16:52:24 xchat and i hate it lol Aug 25 16:52:24 also the adblock patch from preware on the TP = bliss Aug 25 16:52:26 nop Aug 25 16:52:29 [lonequid] it saves on bandwith also Aug 25 16:52:33 no pictures Aug 25 16:52:45 lonequid, there's adblock on the tp?! GOD DEVICE Aug 25 16:52:46 you can set firefox to not auto load images :) Aug 25 16:52:53 hyperion: yeah theres 2 patches in preware to block ads Aug 25 16:53:05 :O Aug 25 16:53:15 negative Personal Aug 25 16:53:41 personal only asks for a pssword? Aug 25 16:53:54 indeed Aug 25 16:54:13 wpa2 requires domain, username, and pass Aug 25 16:56:30 hyperion: you could do the same thing to your Android devices if you have root access too Aug 25 16:56:53 [lonequid] you only want to run one of thouse patches at a time though Aug 25 16:57:15 yeah Aug 25 16:57:17 i use just maxblock Aug 25 16:57:22 same Aug 25 16:57:24 you chrooted Aug 25 16:57:31 not yet Aug 25 16:58:41 its ok but it is dam small. would be nice if it was more tablet frendly but does have its benifets. thinking about trying a backtrack type of setup. oced to 1.7 should work fairly quick. nice and portable. Aug 25 16:58:47 who beepd Aug 25 16:58:55 nope sorry Aug 25 16:59:25 10:48:07 AM <@roadkill> neejay: One thing we can tell you now is that the Android units that have been released into retail... came straight from the Aug 25 16:59:28 factory, not from Qualcomm. These factory testing units just had testing software made by Qualcomm on them. Aug 25 16:59:31 nice! Aug 25 16:59:38 so that confirms that hp was testing android on them Aug 25 16:59:45 hawt Aug 25 16:59:55 Or using Android based Touchpads to test WebOS units at the Factory. Aug 25 16:59:56 Who knows. Aug 25 17:00:01 gotcha Aug 25 17:00:05 ahh, good point Aug 25 17:00:07 But yeah, it's alllllll freaking legit. Aug 25 17:00:12 Whoot. Aug 25 17:00:12 sweeeet Aug 25 17:00:56 roadkill so will we have optimized video drivers for android now? Aug 25 17:01:08 or is there no hardware acceleration on those units Aug 25 17:01:14 So I should crack open my HP Small Business Touchpads to see if they have Honeycomb on them? Aug 25 17:01:21 go for it Aug 25 17:01:23 good luck Aug 25 17:01:27 autoprime: I don't know how they'll be doing it, but the images do include 3d drivers for Android. Aug 25 17:01:34 nice.. sounds good Aug 25 17:01:50 Everything is accounted for hardware wise. Aug 25 17:01:55 haha so amazing Aug 25 17:02:11 sweet Aug 25 17:02:12 thank you qualcomm :) Aug 25 17:02:23 thank you hp* Aug 25 17:02:25 lol Aug 25 17:03:05 it looks like some 16 gigs just came into my area Aug 25 17:03:12 hmm do i need any Aug 25 17:03:22 so is anyone on a wpa2 aes wireless network in webos? Aug 25 17:03:27 i cant connect for some reason Aug 25 17:03:32 Hi Aug 25 17:03:35 nope tipk here Aug 25 17:03:41 im on wpa2.. but its aes + tkip or w/e it is Aug 25 17:03:41 and a side not, it doesnt suppor ad hoc wifis Aug 25 17:03:46 i am and no problem Aug 25 17:04:00 not yet anyways Aug 25 17:04:12 any update? Aug 25 17:04:21 scroll up Aug 25 17:04:27 oh u just came in Aug 25 17:04:27 lol Aug 25 17:04:37 yeah Aug 25 17:04:39 topic has updates. ;) Aug 25 17:04:39 DreamScar: Full Android dump. Aug 25 17:04:48 We're pimpin' Aug 25 17:04:53 got that from earler Aug 25 17:05:17 It'll still be a while before we have anything ready to show for it, but it's gonna be a hell of a great tool in getting us there. Aug 25 17:05:35 that's what I figured Aug 25 17:05:41 o.o what are we talking about Aug 25 17:05:51 roadkill: today was dumping day, first you dumped the people holding the team back, now we dumped the androidpad ;D Aug 25 17:06:01 matthewsm: Remember those Android units that some people got when they bought their Touchpads? Aug 25 17:06:05 I'm logged on here through my touchpad :-P Aug 25 17:06:09 aha, thats exactly what i was just reading Aug 25 17:06:11 We got a full image dump of 2.2 that's on one of those units. Aug 25 17:06:14 on redmondpie.com Aug 25 17:06:14 Full. Aug 25 17:06:27 is the magic in the bootloader Aug 25 17:06:28 multiple units? i thought there was just the one Aug 25 17:06:31 great :D Aug 25 17:06:35 Yeah, it's all in the bootloader. Aug 25 17:06:37 or is quic after the bootloader Aug 25 17:06:38 ah k Aug 25 17:06:46 That's the trickery. Aug 25 17:06:56 how hard will it be to update to gingerbread code? Aug 25 17:07:16 I dunno Aug 25 17:07:18 No idea. Aug 25 17:07:21 all comes down to drivers id think Aug 25 17:07:37 [roadkill] i hope you have been talking to rom over at precentral as i think he has tinkerd with the bootloader Aug 25 17:07:48 I know hc source isnt available so gingerbread is the best we can get until ics Aug 25 17:07:52 Ok my question is, why can't the 2.2.1 drivers work with honeycomb? Why isn't an upgrade that easy? Aug 25 17:08:08 its like expecting xp drivers to work on win7 Aug 25 17:08:13 not always lucky Aug 25 17:08:13 LordNibbler: We've got one of the WebOS Internals guys working with us. I think we're going to see some amazing shit happen. Aug 25 17:08:16 no honeycomb source code Aug 25 17:08:27 Oh.. Aug 25 17:08:41 roadkill: rwhitby? Aug 25 17:08:47 sweet Aug 25 17:08:52 want iOS source? Aug 25 17:09:07 mo thanks Aug 25 17:09:12 triple boot wedOS, android, iOS tablet Aug 25 17:09:13 woo Aug 25 17:09:15 lonequid: He be the one. Aug 25 17:09:23 and windows 8 Aug 25 17:09:25 don't forget that Aug 25 17:09:29 wtf no Aug 25 17:09:31 ya.. after arm version leaks :D Aug 25 17:09:35 so not only "a" webos-internals guy, "the" webos-internals guy ;D Aug 25 17:09:37 Choose one and stick with it xD Aug 25 17:09:40 webos/android/ubuntu ! Aug 25 17:09:41 :D Aug 25 17:09:50 win8 would be awesome =D Aug 25 17:09:53 lonequid: I think I was understating it when I said "I think we're going to see some amazing shit happen." Aug 25 17:09:59 Seriously. Aug 25 17:09:59 if it was possible Aug 25 17:10:02 well, at least with working drivers you can decompile to assembly and get a heck of a lot more progress that trying to reverse engineer the driver Aug 25 17:10:03 We're going to see some amazing shit happen. Aug 25 17:10:03 and it may yet still be Aug 25 17:10:12 $100 for this tablet is already pretty amazing Aug 25 17:10:15 windows 8 would be the holy grail for the touch Aug 25 17:10:16 Win8 vs Android = Android win in the tablets. Apps rule Aug 25 17:10:31 roadkill when we will see? :D Aug 25 17:10:36 ... Aug 25 17:10:51 sirana: not before 1 second from now, not after the world ends Aug 25 17:10:59 ;) Aug 25 17:11:02 win 8 would suck i do not want blue screens every 2 minm Aug 25 17:11:20 yeah because that happens all the time Aug 25 17:11:20 i dont think win7 has crashed on me once Aug 25 17:11:25 sirana: When they're ready. There's no ETA. We're just gonna have to let the guys do their magic. Aug 25 17:11:30 sirana: I would imagine there won't be anything more substantial to show for a few weeks Aug 25 17:11:32 only time I've seen windows 7 crash is bad ram. Aug 25 17:11:32 lol bsod tablet ftl Aug 25 17:11:34 well i hade 6 6.5 and will never go back Aug 25 17:11:47 Android on the Touchpad is not a question of if, but when. That's certain now. Aug 25 17:11:48 few weeks? Aug 25 17:11:53 i dont think itll be that long before we seesomethin Aug 25 17:12:01 No estimates, period, autoprime. Aug 25 17:12:02 [autoprime] it will be when it is Aug 25 17:12:11 just get yoru tablest ready Aug 25 17:12:18 im not asking.. i was responding to DreamScar's comment :p Aug 25 17:12:23 ah Aug 25 17:12:24 my body is ready Aug 25 17:12:24 sorry Aug 25 17:12:31 bbl alls, but roadkill i may have you catch me up upon return :p Aug 25 17:12:33 i know not to ask Aug 25 17:12:37 ive been here since saturday ;) Aug 25 17:12:39 good stuff i am excite! Aug 25 17:12:43 no typo Aug 25 17:12:45 I'd like webOS droid and backtrack3 booting Aug 25 17:13:00 i got the wine candels all set up music is ready also just a waiting game now Aug 25 17:13:10 frustrated: WebOS and Android dual booting is planned. Most of us want to keep WebOS. Aug 25 17:13:19 By the way Aug 25 17:13:20 ya i love webOS Aug 25 17:13:25 id be happy with touchpad as is Aug 25 17:13:25 Ubuntu chroot is NOT "installing Ubuntu" Aug 25 17:13:27 [Framework] using chroot you might be able to get the progs runing on it have not tried yet. Aug 25 17:13:33 anthing more is a bonus Aug 25 17:13:40 lolwut Aug 25 17:13:53 I really like WebOS. I just wish it had the chance to mature. It's a fine piece of work. Aug 25 17:14:15 same, been a while since I've used it but its quite nice Aug 25 17:14:15 webos is okay... but android rulz! Aug 25 17:14:43 anyone got the link to check touchpad inventory at bb Aug 25 17:14:46 roadkill agreed Aug 25 17:14:49 derp.com Aug 25 17:15:41 does cm7 nook color team have anything beyond device driver binaries? Aug 25 17:16:10 lol autoprime i first thaugt you said derpbox.com Aug 25 17:16:27 is derpbox somehing? Aug 25 17:16:28 lol Aug 25 17:16:32 yes Aug 25 17:16:39 cause it is astounding what they have done with that device Aug 25 17:17:07 HousePoor3: :) Aug 25 17:17:35 when i was working with a diffrent team it was easer to control by having your own file hosting. dropbox feasko was going on so derpbox.com was born Aug 25 17:17:52 fuck its storming here and the power almost just dropped Aug 25 17:17:54 :D Aug 25 17:17:58 oh well if it does ill have my tablet to play with ;P Aug 25 17:18:05 [lonequid] hope you have a ups Aug 25 17:18:15 hurricanes a comin Aug 25 17:18:20 in nj anyway Aug 25 17:18:21 :/ Aug 25 17:18:21 nah the imac can handle a hard shutdown Aug 25 17:18:22 no winters comming Aug 25 17:18:39 nj has state of emergency Aug 25 17:18:40 power goes out here every few months never had a problem on any computer actually Aug 25 17:18:44 :/ Aug 25 17:18:44 really autoprime Aug 25 17:18:45 im in ny Aug 25 17:18:46 * LordNibbler holds lonequid i am sorry an imac Aug 25 17:18:46 * lonequid holds LordNibbler i am sorry an imac RIGHT BACK! BOO YEAH 4436 REPLICATIONS SO FAR Aug 25 17:18:56 ya jersey shores gettin hit on sat Aug 25 17:19:01 kernel source is the holy grail right Aug 25 17:19:02 might be mandatory evac Aug 25 17:19:06 hopefully it washes up snooki Aug 25 17:19:13 lol Aug 25 17:19:21 i think only one person on that show is from nj Aug 25 17:19:37 yea snooki is from poughkeepsie Aug 25 17:19:49 hmm wonder if work will be busy tomarrow. shit i work for DHS dam it if i have to go and do clean up i will be pissed Aug 25 17:19:58 can someone explain how the team intends to get drivers to run the android software Aug 25 17:20:14 [douchey] magic Aug 25 17:20:23 brick will be shat Aug 25 17:20:23 it seems that the drivers on the stock touchpad will not line up with android requirements Aug 25 17:20:32 android dump ;) Aug 25 17:20:45 oy Aug 25 17:20:47 my head hurts Aug 25 17:20:48 :( Aug 25 17:20:53 i wanna leave work Aug 25 17:20:55 i thought the dump would cause concerns of legality Aug 25 17:20:56 bastards Aug 25 17:20:58 ProTekk ya neck Aug 25 17:21:10 lock me in a basement and demand i work on shit Aug 25 17:21:25 ProTekk go to your boss and say that your ill ... Aug 25 17:21:26 :D Aug 25 17:21:38 * farchord will be right back, gonna root himself some ham sandwiches with Dill pickles. Aug 25 17:21:39 sirana: cant lol Aug 25 17:23:33 https://twitter.com/#!/rhcp011235/status/106775069254098944 Aug 25 17:23:37 RT guys Aug 25 17:24:03 so i can get this article pulled Aug 25 17:24:12 that tweet is taking forever to load Aug 25 17:24:37 RHCP is back Aug 25 17:24:57 ive never left Aug 25 17:25:04 :) Aug 25 17:25:08 I thought you ran off with the donation money Aug 25 17:25:14 you thought wrong. Aug 25 17:25:21 why would i run away with money and still be in all chans Aug 25 17:25:23 lol Aug 25 17:25:27 kinda stupid eh Aug 25 17:25:35 That's what everyone was saying. So why are we RTing this? Aug 25 17:25:47 oh lordie :) Aug 25 17:25:50 read the post Aug 25 17:26:14 I am but I can't find anything yet Aug 25 17:26:40 cant find? its a system dump for android Aug 25 17:26:41 for tp Aug 25 17:26:58 brought to you by (us) and thx to the orig owners Aug 25 17:26:59 You said you wanted it pulled though Aug 25 17:27:03 not that! Aug 25 17:27:08 the pcmag thing Aug 25 17:27:10 you said dump....and tp....uh huhuhuhuhuh. (Just cause Beavis and Butthead are coming back to MTV) Aug 25 17:27:17 the kid's PCmag shit Aug 25 17:27:21 OH! So wait we have android on our touchpads now? Nice Aug 25 17:27:29 no Aug 25 17:27:30 dont get ahead of yourself Aug 25 17:27:32 we are working on it :) Aug 25 17:27:32 BatNode, no calm down Aug 25 17:27:33 F7U12 Aug 25 17:27:34 one person has it Aug 25 17:27:49 there is a march build that exists Aug 25 17:27:52 and update will come as soon as there is one :) Aug 25 17:27:53 from march Aug 25 17:27:55 wait the touchpads are on sale for $100????? Aug 25 17:28:02 i'm surprised someone from hp hasn't leaked it Aug 25 17:28:02 fattire is my favorite beer Aug 25 17:28:17 I'll take that as a compliment, wookiebush Aug 25 17:28:23 thats badass... that guy is a+ #1 in my book for not being selfish with the dump Aug 25 17:28:27 good beer is good. Aug 25 17:28:51 rhcp, I'll dust off TweetDeck just for that :) Aug 25 17:29:02 danke :) Aug 25 17:29:06 rhcp, each of these dump files is a partition? Aug 25 17:29:08 dd'd? Aug 25 17:29:11 yea Aug 25 17:29:15 you can mount them Aug 25 17:30:01 rhcp the reason there's no board file in u-boot is because tp doesn't use uboot at all-- it uses bootie... the source for uboot is just to get mkimage Aug 25 17:30:05 I gotta go pick up my kid from school. Please have rom ready when I get back. Mkay? Drugs are bad. Except the good ones. Aug 25 17:30:24 lonequid, good luck finding one Aug 25 17:30:27 rhcp fwiw Aug 25 17:30:39 Ironsight: sarcasm, i got one ;D Aug 25 17:30:44 bad beer is bad Aug 25 17:30:47 ;) Aug 25 17:30:51 fattire: yea ;) Aug 25 17:31:00 i know Aug 25 17:31:02 Where's the bounty thread? Aug 25 17:31:07 dono Aug 25 17:31:12 who cares Aug 25 17:31:13 thought bootie is based of u-boot Aug 25 17:31:16 ? Aug 25 17:31:20 we are not going ot claim any bounty from a dump Aug 25 17:31:22 GAY Aug 25 17:31:25 Try Fireman's #4. IS good beer too. Aug 25 17:31:26 src build Aug 25 17:31:33 How do they know what the bounty is at then? Aug 25 17:31:42 rhcp, I guess I'm just catching up Aug 25 17:31:48 wha upp Aug 25 17:31:50 fattire: yea you are welcome to join us bro Aug 25 17:31:51 i tol dyou Aug 25 17:31:58 msg me if you want to join in Aug 25 17:32:12 all the others are welcome as well Aug 25 17:32:17 dal, pokey Aug 25 17:32:17 etc Aug 25 17:32:27 can i be a fly on the wall Aug 25 17:32:28 wow Aug 25 17:32:30 I'm just here for the comedy. Aug 25 17:32:30 BestBuy this morning Aug 25 17:32:32 got in like 60 Aug 25 17:32:34 near me Aug 25 17:32:40 was a big line tho, not everyone got one Aug 25 17:32:43 rhcp has anyone done a diff of these partitions agains tthe webos ones to see which haven't changed? Aug 25 17:32:49 me and the woman got 1 each Aug 25 17:32:57 not yet no Aug 25 17:33:01 we are too busy with the files :) Aug 25 17:33:05 trying to see whats what Aug 25 17:33:18 me too Aug 25 17:33:18 I also got one at best buy today Aug 25 17:33:22 nice Aug 25 17:33:26 I was first in line of like 50 Aug 25 17:33:28 I'm really surprised they got them in Aug 25 17:33:31 rhcp, RT'd Aug 25 17:33:32 they had 2 carts full at least Aug 25 17:33:36 what? Aug 25 17:33:44 So fellas really stoked to hear about the Full image :) Aug 25 17:33:45 has the dump been published? Aug 25 17:33:47 Best Buy got more? nation- wide? Aug 25 17:33:48 any details? Aug 25 17:33:50 get me one! Aug 25 17:33:55 douchey: it is published Aug 25 17:33:57 check the site Aug 25 17:34:02 thanks! Aug 25 17:34:04 I know that one store here in Austin is getting some on a truck today. Aug 25 17:34:05 fact Aug 25 17:34:10 Wow the touch-droid.com site is down Aug 25 17:34:12 Can I please get a link to the site Aug 25 17:34:17 get me a 16 gig + overnight Aug 25 17:34:18 !! Aug 25 17:34:25 and other devs need too Aug 25 17:34:32 Kewlj1313, as I understand it some dude randomly got an Android Froyo (2.2) device, and it's been dumped for analysis. Aug 25 17:34:42 rhcp, I'm good now :) Aug 25 17:34:47 Yes I'm glad that got dumped, I've seen those youtube vids Aug 25 17:34:48 I need one. I have the funds right now :) Aug 25 17:34:50 matthewsm if you weren't there before opening you probably won't get one Aug 25 17:34:50 through random luck Aug 25 17:34:51 that is very odd Aug 25 17:34:56 so we think it is real then? Aug 25 17:35:01 the device with Android etc Aug 25 17:35:05 its 100% real Aug 25 17:35:10 wow... that is insane Aug 25 17:35:13 how does that even happen Aug 25 17:35:32 theories are that qualcomm uses android for testing Aug 25 17:35:40 rhcp: is the dump on fzservers.com? Aug 25 17:35:45 or that theyre flashed with android from the factory and hp puts webos on top of it and some slipped by Aug 25 17:35:45 aww. :( thanks litdroid Aug 25 17:35:51 its on rootzwiki.com Aug 25 17:35:52 ohh wow Aug 25 17:36:07 will llook there then Aug 25 17:36:20 I leave for a few minutes, and you already have a downloadable image? Aug 25 17:36:35 Are you SURE you don't want money :P Aug 25 17:36:37 a DUMP yes, not a rom :) Aug 25 17:36:40 not flashable though yet Aug 25 17:36:54 hmmm Aug 25 17:36:57 i wonder Aug 25 17:37:01 * oldtopman gives his touchpad an android enema Aug 25 17:37:09 Becayse it's a dump Aug 25 17:37:13 dam i need to get on my linux box. Aug 25 17:37:14 *crickets* Aug 25 17:37:27 oldtopman: Ohhhh I see what you did there. Aug 25 17:38:24 hmm Aug 25 17:38:29 douchey: no Aug 25 17:38:30 i have a crazy idea Aug 25 17:38:34 bbl Aug 25 17:38:40 we moved servers. ProTekk's was getting hammered Aug 25 17:38:44 but the android-tp has no working market right? Aug 25 17:38:44 i didnt want him to loose his hosting Aug 25 17:38:53 so is it odd that i'm getting mine today but still no charge on my cc? Aug 25 17:39:08 normal Aug 25 17:39:12 who pays for things Aug 25 17:39:19 So in 24 hrs we might have android lol Aug 25 17:40:07 ill be waitin a few days after its released before i put anything on my touchpad. let the public work out the bugs first :) Aug 25 17:40:24 lol nice autoprime Aug 25 17:40:35 you guys need to stop thinking you qwill have android in your tp this week Aug 25 17:40:37 YOU WONT Aug 25 17:40:43 it will prob be months Aug 25 17:40:54 sepcially since no one is collaborating with devs to get them tps Aug 25 17:40:57 how you know? lol Aug 25 17:41:00 lol Aug 25 17:41:00 SamCripp I'm predicting Feb /march Aug 25 17:41:07 itll be a month tops Aug 25 17:41:08 im a dev Aug 25 17:41:09 who wants to bet :) Aug 25 17:41:14 lol at people predicting anything Aug 25 17:41:18 everyone cryin no touchopads will have more than enough by next week Aug 25 17:41:36 LOL We have the image all we need is a way to flash it... Aug 25 17:41:39 ARE the DEvs willing to pay my cost ie 99 and then the shipping Aug 25 17:41:46 there's getting android working and there's getting android WORKING. Does anyone count a booting android system but w/o sound, accelerometer, camera, wifi, etc etc? Aug 25 17:41:47 no BatNode thats not correct Aug 25 17:41:47 yes we are Aug 25 17:41:47 Boone knows the future Aug 25 17:41:50 if you can get them here! Aug 25 17:41:51 :) Aug 25 17:41:59 we have an image Aug 25 17:42:01 what about the possibility of bricking? Other webOS users from Pre said its neraly unbrickable. Aug 25 17:42:09 but you r nand is not partition the way it should be for android Aug 25 17:42:12 let the naysayers say nay. who cares. Aug 25 17:42:20 bootie is not modify like it should be to boot the kenrle Aug 25 17:42:20 k2l i believe that changes when youre messing with the bootloader Aug 25 17:42:24 is not tomorrow Aug 25 17:42:27 is gonna be months Aug 25 17:42:34 SamCripp: BFF :D Aug 25 17:42:42 im not a nay sayer Aug 25 17:42:46 without me there woudnt be a dump Aug 25 17:42:54 im the one who told the commands to use Aug 25 17:42:55 im a dev Aug 25 17:42:56 FYI: Best Buy is getting a fresh stock of more TouchPads this Saturday Aug 25 17:42:57 fattire...supposedly the image had wifi and camera working, not sure about the rest Aug 25 17:43:03 im telling yall not to expect things tomorrow Aug 25 17:43:05 because im right Aug 25 17:43:11 there wont be a bootable android tomorrow Aug 25 17:43:25 is a wishful though Aug 25 17:43:30 but quit confusing people Aug 25 17:43:36 theres tons of time ahead of us Aug 25 17:45:37 Hey SamCripp what was the dd command? Aug 25 17:45:59 well first you want to sync the images Aug 25 17:46:01 so sync Aug 25 17:46:04 sync Aug 25 17:46:06 do you guys have some devs or contact to devs from other android-porting projects? Aug 25 17:46:07 then you dd Aug 25 17:46:08 fattire: man dd Aug 25 17:46:12 lets say a system Aug 25 17:46:29 dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p12 of=/sdcard/system.img Aug 25 17:46:35 okay just want to make sure Aug 25 17:46:41 assuming sustem is mounted on dev block mmcblk0p12 Aug 25 17:46:48 so no ones dump the entire thing via jtag/serial? Aug 25 17:46:53 just dumped whats mounted? Aug 25 17:46:58 If someone hasn't dd'd the webos partitions, it would be nice to know which are different Aug 25 17:47:06 md5 them and compare or diff or whatever Aug 25 17:47:25 i tell you wants different from webos and android Aug 25 17:47:26 I'm hoping that bootie is identical Aug 25 17:47:30 android is android Aug 25 17:47:33 webos is webos Aug 25 17:47:40 bootie is diffirent Aug 25 17:47:45 SamCripp, but are the bootloader... ahh Aug 25 17:47:47 we actually need the unit to see bootie Aug 25 17:47:52 is not like a regular partition Aug 25 17:47:59 anybody seen that douchebag Protekk? Aug 25 17:48:13 hes here Aug 25 17:48:20 dsb9938, that kind of langugae is not use here with other users Aug 25 17:48:30 SamCripp, I had heard bootie was using the first 13 partitions... Aug 25 17:48:31 dsb9938: Are you sure you want to be calling him that? He's right here >.> Aug 25 17:48:32 hey rhcp Aug 25 17:48:39 hi dsb9938 Aug 25 17:48:39 yes, I do Aug 25 17:48:41 he's used to it Aug 25 17:48:46 SamCripp, what do you mean it's not a regular partition? where is it? Aug 25 17:49:02 as in is not mounted on this android dump Aug 25 17:49:21 even on modern android phnoens Aug 25 17:49:22 and his nick being there, doesn't mean he's paying attention Aug 25 17:49:24 like my atrix Aug 25 17:49:28 dsb9938: Anything you were looking to say to him? Aug 25 17:49:30 boot its own system Aug 25 17:49:44 SamCripp, it may not be mounted but it should be a partition still, right? Aug 25 17:49:51 it is Aug 25 17:49:56 we're friends, I just popped in to chat Aug 25 17:49:56 but is not one you can just dd Aug 25 17:49:56 jtag it! Aug 25 17:50:09 autoprime, we dont have tps Aug 25 17:50:21 none the less a secondary unit we can just jtag Aug 25 17:50:26 why dont you jtag Aug 25 17:50:36 most devs are working blind Aug 25 17:50:43 and they are doing an excellent job Aug 25 17:50:48 how many times do we need to say we need "TPS" Aug 25 17:50:50 we are blind Aug 25 17:50:55 and working on stuff. and getting progress Aug 25 17:50:58 with no hardware Aug 25 17:51:01 i say it every 30 minutes Aug 25 17:51:07 i know Aug 25 17:51:07 ima making sure folks know Aug 25 17:51:11 What is a tps? Aug 25 17:51:13 i dont get why folks dont get it already Aug 25 17:51:21 touchpad Aug 25 17:51:28 u guys shoulda been campin out at bestbuy for units on saturday/sunday ;) Aug 25 17:51:40 any of you devs in the Austin area? i'd be willing to loan one out for dev Aug 25 17:51:41 samcripp what do you mean it's a partition you can't dd? Aug 25 17:51:47 well unfortunatly puerto rico was in a state of emergency Aug 25 17:51:53 so i made my purchase online Aug 25 17:51:56 and missed out Aug 25 17:52:05 *zing* Aug 25 17:52:12 so none of the devs have a device? Aug 25 17:52:16 some do Aug 25 17:52:19 some don't Aug 25 17:52:19 oh okay Aug 25 17:52:35 the ones that don't really should have one Aug 25 17:52:39 it kinda helps Aug 25 17:52:40 yeah Aug 25 17:52:43 they should. Aug 25 17:52:49 I'm going AFK for another 10 hrs Aug 25 17:53:02 SamCripp, how do you have a boot partition that can't be dd'd? Aug 25 17:53:10 lol Aug 25 17:53:13 fattire Aug 25 17:53:15 yes? Aug 25 17:53:22 this is not an android device Aug 25 17:53:27 booti is like its own os Aug 25 17:53:30 you can enter it Aug 25 17:53:33 inb4 You don't get it Aug 25 17:53:34 change things during wrong Aug 25 17:53:39 versus just fastboot Aug 25 17:53:43 odarn Aug 25 17:53:45 it works differently Aug 25 17:53:48 SamCripp, yes I saw you can put it in that usb mode and novaterm into it Aug 25 17:53:56 but it's somewhere Aug 25 17:54:04 and that somewhere I believe is a partition Aug 25 17:54:11 so why can't you dump it? Aug 25 17:54:16 we requier the actuall unit with the android Aug 25 17:54:19 to see the changes Aug 25 17:54:22 because from android Aug 25 17:54:26 we cant see that partition Aug 25 17:54:36 we dump evey partition we have access from android Aug 25 17:54:40 and im yet to find the bootloader Aug 25 17:54:49 hmmm I bet you have it Aug 25 17:54:55 i bet i dont Aug 25 17:55:02 be nice if hp would work with you all on this project! Aug 25 17:55:26 hp has done more than enough by releasing tons of their source and making the bootloader unlock Aug 25 17:55:29 or atleast open source it now that they are killing it Aug 25 17:55:41 webos is not been killed Aug 25 17:55:49 ^ Aug 25 17:56:02 webos will continue to get updates and it will be license for other companies to use on their device Aug 25 17:56:02 meant the hardware killed :) Aug 25 17:56:15 webos is an excellent little OS Aug 25 17:56:20 just needs pollishing Aug 25 17:56:23 just a liitle slow Aug 25 17:56:32 SamCripp: a little slow Aug 25 17:56:32 i haven't noticed that it's slow Aug 25 17:56:38 cai: :/ logging was turned on slowing it down. Aug 25 17:56:41 faster than my android for sure Aug 25 17:56:43 a lot of us are rooting for a dual boot solution Aug 25 17:56:48 if i freaking had a pad Aug 25 17:56:55 i could probably dual boot tonight Aug 25 17:56:59 THIS IS SO FUCKING GAY Aug 25 17:57:02 I used it for a few days Aug 25 17:57:07 it freeze a lit Aug 25 17:57:08 lot Aug 25 17:57:12 no offense to the gay friends here Aug 25 17:57:17 cai: sell it to SamCripp Aug 25 17:57:22 SamCripp, why not just work with someone who has one Aug 25 17:57:24 lol cant Aug 25 17:57:33 i wont be able to purchase a pad until we3nsday Aug 25 17:57:36 cai: have you done the recommended tweaks? Aug 25 17:57:40 SamCripp: PM me Aug 25 17:57:42 office depot has my 160$ for the pad Aug 25 17:57:42 nope Aug 25 17:57:45 where is it? Aug 25 17:57:49 what if you had rdp/vnc access to someones computer? Aug 25 17:57:54 lonequid: where is it? Aug 25 17:57:54 im hoping someone finds it in their heart to save one for me iuntil wensday Aug 25 17:57:56 you can't work with someone that has one? Aug 25 17:58:00 cai: http://forums.precentral.net/hp-touchpad/293028-new-touchpad-heres-your-get-started-guide.html Aug 25 17:58:12 what i dont get, is all these people want android on their TP but noone wants to help the devs get units to work with. Aug 25 17:58:15 i dont notice any sluggishness at all after the tweaks Aug 25 17:58:15 i could Aug 25 17:58:25 lonequid : thanks Aug 25 17:58:26 but i woulod never do anything i would do with my own device Aug 25 17:58:27 but? Aug 25 17:58:27 np Aug 25 17:58:39 cop out Aug 25 17:58:42 You think you could dual boot tonight but you think we won't be able to boot for months? wtf? Aug 25 17:58:56 if i had oen to give i would :( Aug 25 17:59:17 BatNode, just because i can get a kernel booting and adb access dosnt mean im going to release that Aug 25 17:59:21 theres people in this chan who ordered like 20 of em Aug 25 17:59:22 LEWT ME EXPLAIN A FUCKING THING Aug 25 17:59:29 we dont work to make half ass shit Aug 25 17:59:32 and noone wants to donate one to devs Aug 25 17:59:35 we work to release a solution everyone can use Aug 25 17:59:43 you want android is gonna be done right Aug 25 17:59:48 otherwise you are on the wrong channel Aug 25 17:59:56 SamCripp: Have you considered using colors? Aug 25 18:00:05 colors are nice Aug 25 18:00:12 its bullshit if u ask me, these greedy fucks need to ease up on buyin 20 TP for ebay profit Aug 25 18:00:17 remicks, we dont want them donated Aug 25 18:00:20 we want to buy them Aug 25 18:00:28 we sersly dont care for hand outs Aug 25 18:00:42 which is hard SamCripp cuz of what i just said Aug 25 18:00:48 all the ebay crooks Aug 25 18:00:51 we just dont feel like paying 300$ pon ebay Aug 25 18:00:53 IT MAKES WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT MUCH, MORE POWERFUL!!! Aug 25 18:01:00 exactly Aug 25 18:01:06 SamCripp, is there a df from the android tp? Aug 25 18:01:09 CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL! Aug 25 18:01:15 :< Aug 25 18:01:18 Jacob! Aug 25 18:01:19 MY EVOICE IS LOUD Aug 25 18:01:21 fattire: I couldn't find one Aug 25 18:01:22 lol Aug 25 18:01:25 dsb9938: ! Aug 25 18:01:26 ZOMG! Aug 25 18:01:29 hey there Aug 25 18:01:37 ITS FUCKING dsb9938 ! Aug 25 18:01:40 lol Aug 25 18:01:40 aint there some guys with 10 devices who will drop some for the devs for fair money? Aug 25 18:01:41 haha Aug 25 18:01:47 what's up man? Aug 25 18:01:49 no cursing Aug 25 18:01:49 Decad3nce, p10 and p11 are identical (probably empty) Aug 25 18:01:50 no abe2k Aug 25 18:01:57 I got yelled at for saying douchebag Aug 25 18:01:58 well if you guys miss out on this weekends restocks at bb and hp.com i may have 1 to offer next week when it ships from hp.com Aug 25 18:01:59 they all want greedy money Aug 25 18:02:00 yap Aug 25 18:02:11 dsb9938: really? Aug 25 18:02:13 lol Aug 25 18:02:16 they dont know me Aug 25 18:02:16 bastards Aug 25 18:02:18 gonna rail me for my language? Aug 25 18:02:19 rofl Aug 25 18:02:20 ire: I'll buy it from you :3 Aug 25 18:02:42 when is your gig over? Aug 25 18:02:44 well what's the point of giving it to you decad3nce if the devs need 1 Aug 25 18:02:48 ..... Aug 25 18:03:00 fattire: Aug 25 18:03:00 dsb9938: I have a bot that autobans for any profanity worse than "damn" Aug 25 18:03:09 remicks: sad to hear that. i mean they even would be advanced by that Aug 25 18:03:09 if my mom would get off her lazy ass and go to work so i didnt have to pay her bills id have one right now Aug 25 18:03:14 ire: You're right.. Aug 25 18:03:19 I've never ported anything android.. ever Aug 25 18:03:20 yep Aug 25 18:03:26 Hey guys just popping in, didn't know this was on freenode till I just got the tablet today. Was doing some tinkering and got the device in developer mode and was playing around in the file system. Aug 25 18:03:49 uh guys, Decad3nce is definitely someon ewho should have a tp Aug 25 18:03:54 The problem is. people want want want want. but they have the devices (10+) and put them on ebay. instead of helping out the devs Aug 25 18:04:04 yeah abe2k everyone wants android on a TP but theyd rather ebay them than give devs a chance to purchase one Aug 25 18:04:06 fumanchu182: Talk to SamCripp, he's one of the devs. Aug 25 18:04:14 I'd love to join in, if I could get one Aug 25 18:04:16 gd are they really going for $300 on ebay? Aug 25 18:04:19 ues Aug 25 18:04:20 yes Aug 25 18:04:21 but I dont see that happening Aug 25 18:04:21 Cool cool, will do oldtopman. Aug 25 18:04:29 lol rhcp we damn near said the same thing Aug 25 18:04:31 haha Aug 25 18:04:45 its really starting to tick me Aug 25 18:04:56 me too man and i aint even deving Aug 25 18:05:00 fumanchu182: anyone with ops is one to. :P Aug 25 18:05:00 its bs Aug 25 18:05:03 dont piss rhcp off, you won't like him when he's pissed Aug 25 18:05:11 ^ Aug 25 18:05:15 i dont mind people selling them. but let the devs have one Aug 25 18:05:16 ! Aug 25 18:05:19 Lol Aug 25 18:05:19 then go sell away Aug 25 18:05:20 tbh Aug 25 18:05:26 me me me Aug 25 18:05:28 I need one Aug 25 18:05:32 i understand suppy and demand Aug 25 18:05:33 i think the ebay scammers already pissed rhcp off. Aug 25 18:05:36 but help the devs Aug 25 18:05:37 that should be a rule here Aug 25 18:05:43 if you want to sell Aug 25 18:05:45 SamCripp: it is Aug 25 18:05:47 in this channel Aug 25 18:05:50 /topic Aug 25 18:05:51 donate one to devs Aug 25 18:06:06 anyone who is caught trying to sell/link to ebay/anything over priced here Aug 25 18:06:07 banned Aug 25 18:06:09 dont have to doante to me, I'll add 50 to what was paid Aug 25 18:06:26 i dont want a donation either Aug 25 18:06:35 but it def will make the person think twice Aug 25 18:06:42 before trying to go oh yes i want to sell Aug 25 18:07:07 i got like 20 pms last night with peeps trying to sell me 250+ Aug 25 18:07:10 i mean man Aug 25 18:07:18 did jbruchon ever get his hands on one? Aug 25 18:07:21 people got ball! Aug 25 18:07:25 yes he has one Aug 25 18:07:29 k Aug 25 18:07:30 balls* Aug 25 18:07:35 * ire hides Aug 25 18:07:42 Would you buy one for $50? Aug 25 18:07:45 so rhcp, hows things? long time no chat Aug 25 18:07:50 shitty Aug 25 18:07:50 hands on one what? Aug 25 18:07:52 have you read the news? Aug 25 18:07:53 did anyone get problems from the ubuntu software manager with novacom from the hp sdk? Aug 25 18:07:56 jbruchon: a tb Aug 25 18:07:57 tp Aug 25 18:07:57 he is the one in the charlotte area that was looking for one? Aug 25 18:07:58 lol Aug 25 18:07:59 you have one Aug 25 18:08:01 hahahahahaha Aug 25 18:08:02 I read the news a lot Aug 25 18:08:04 depressing Aug 25 18:08:10 :x Aug 25 18:08:27 I'm in Charlotte Aug 25 18:08:34 HousePoor3: me too Aug 25 18:08:35 hook me up Aug 25 18:08:40 ill drive now Aug 25 18:08:44 I'm 2 hours from Charlotte in the RDU area Aug 25 18:08:52 ah ok Aug 25 18:08:58 jbruchon: get my text? lmao Aug 25 18:08:59 Wait wait Aug 25 18:08:59 if you can sell goods on ebay without fraud killing your margins, good on you Aug 25 18:09:00 *posts hipriced ebay link* Aug 25 18:09:04 you people think I don't have a Touchpad? Aug 25 18:09:13 I've had one since last Saturday at 9:30 in the morning. Aug 25 18:09:17 DrKmobs: LOL Aug 25 18:09:20 I don't have one to sell but you are welcome to borrow mine if yuo come get it Aug 25 18:09:24 jbruchon: want a cookie? Aug 25 18:09:26 I'm the guy who did the kernel stuff that's been talked about all week. Aug 25 18:09:28 rhcp: shut the fuck up Aug 25 18:09:31 lol I know you have one jbruchon I've seen you compile your first kernels Aug 25 18:09:40 I'm just northof charlotte in huntersville Aug 25 18:09:40 rhcp: because I hat eyou Aug 25 18:09:43 rhcp: don't talk to me Aug 25 18:09:44 DrKmobs: that lang is not supported here Aug 25 18:09:48 optedoblivion: fuck you, I love cookies, so I unfortunately will have to say yes Aug 25 18:09:48 DrKmobs: whats up? Aug 25 18:09:48 if you hate me Aug 25 18:09:49 go away Aug 25 18:09:50 kthx Aug 25 18:09:54 ban me then Aug 25 18:09:56 I don't give a shit Aug 25 18:09:58 I hate you Aug 25 18:09:58 not supported? should probably patch that Aug 25 18:09:59 wow Aug 25 18:10:02 chill guys Aug 25 18:10:04 really Aug 25 18:10:05 no Aug 25 18:10:07 Anyone have ebay links? Aug 25 18:10:12 DrKmobs, Someone's got sand stuck in his vagina... Aug 25 18:10:22 lol Aug 25 18:10:22 lolololol Aug 25 18:10:26 you defended rhcp Aug 25 18:10:26 heeeerrreee we go Aug 25 18:10:29 Hey -- I'm sure you're getting a lot of this, but I'm a developer looking to donate some of his free time to help the project -- I have some linux kernel experience and some android experience as well. In the past I helped with the audio on the HTC Touch Pro 2 for the htc-linux project... Feel free to PM me if my services can be of use Aug 25 18:10:31 Hi DrKmobs Aug 25 18:10:38 hi drnick Aug 25 18:11:13 I have no experience, never done anything Aug 25 18:11:14 lol Aug 25 18:11:22 trolololol Aug 25 18:11:44 so 12 is system 13 is data but I can't get it to mount -- is anything documented anywhere yet? Aug 25 18:11:45 I submitted a list of scancodes for an ubuntu port for my phone once. :P Aug 25 18:11:50 anyone know the filesystem type for these imgs that are part of the dump Aug 25 18:11:54 DrKmobs: rhcp is a world class developer, you be nice to him Aug 25 18:12:02 no no no Aug 25 18:12:04 DrKmobs: he rooted the g2 remember? Aug 25 18:12:04 world class? Aug 25 18:12:05 douchey: No one has done a df -T Aug 25 18:12:09 and no one will Aug 25 18:12:10 remember Aug 25 18:12:12 DrKmobs, question. You say you hate rhcp. Yet, you come in here and troll.Where is the logic in this? You want to make sure he knows he hate you and look like a dumbass to everyone? Aug 25 18:12:13 no, he's better than that Aug 25 18:12:14 Omg Aug 25 18:12:15 according to reddit Aug 25 18:12:15 because they don't know what they're doing Aug 25 18:12:20 I'm aword classdeveloper Aug 25 18:12:23 farchord: works for me Aug 25 18:12:25 Tried yaffs douchey? Aug 25 18:12:25 test Aug 25 18:12:27 WORLD CLASS Aug 25 18:12:33 lol Aug 25 18:12:40 he's also a world class bitcher Aug 25 18:12:44 DrKmobs: lolol but didn't rhcp hax the gibson? Aug 25 18:12:44 but I love it Aug 25 18:12:50 Do y'all not know who kmobs is? Aug 25 18:12:54 WootRoot: <3 Aug 25 18:13:01 Xavierdarkness: <3 Aug 25 18:13:06 I only know myn and deeper-blue Aug 25 18:13:09 brandroid: I'm guessing not Aug 25 18:13:14 right Aug 25 18:13:15 cause I've only had Evo and Nook Aug 25 18:13:18 what's the status with the dump? Aug 25 18:13:24 has anyone opened it up yet? Aug 25 18:13:25 Pulser: It's steaming Aug 25 18:13:27 (he dd one) Aug 25 18:13:28 brandroid: no who is DrKmobs ? Aug 25 18:13:29 Yes Aug 25 18:13:29 LMFAO de Aug 25 18:13:34 Decad3nce, Aug 25 18:13:40 Pulser: but the tards aren't df -t'ing Aug 25 18:13:41 drkmobs is a n00b Aug 25 18:13:45 I can only mount system Aug 25 18:13:45 no yaffs... and not in apt-cache Aug 25 18:13:50 kmobs = cyanognemod developer. Aug 25 18:13:53 DrKmobs: rooted the blackbery torch Aug 25 18:13:58 which image? Aug 25 18:14:06 what's cyanogenmod? Aug 25 18:14:07 I haven't tried anything yet. Been busy. Aug 25 18:14:09 file .img gives no details Aug 25 18:14:12 I thought that cyanogen did all the work Aug 25 18:14:13 hmmm, so we don't know type Aug 25 18:14:14 DrKmobs: can operate on cadavers with a professor's permission Aug 25 18:14:15 optedoblivion, www.cyanogenmod.com Aug 25 18:14:18 I don't care who anyone is, if they act like a jerk, they can get lost. Aug 25 18:14:19 is cyanogenmod competing with this team? Aug 25 18:14:20 Didn't cyanogenmod get hired by samsung? Aug 25 18:14:27 CM7 topaz? Aug 25 18:14:28 koush: you meant "operate" Aug 25 18:14:29 ok, let me take a look at the image Aug 25 18:14:30 I have an idea Aug 25 18:14:33 lol koush Aug 25 18:14:38 You try leaving out the -t command and see if linux can just detect it itself?, douchey? Aug 25 18:14:41 Cyanogenmod is not a person and therefor could not get hired by anyone Aug 25 18:14:43 which img file is the system... since 17 images, this will save me some time Aug 25 18:14:46 LOL Aug 25 18:14:48 i heard rhcp was "stealing code" and throwing a shit-fit because he wasn't getting enough attention Aug 25 18:14:50 umm 1 looks like it to me Aug 25 18:14:51 douchey: I love your name. Aug 25 18:15:02 douchey: 12 br0 Aug 25 18:15:02 thanks thanks Aug 25 18:15:06 l2strings Aug 25 18:15:06 lol l2ban plz Aug 25 18:15:14 rhcp, you not interested? Aug 25 18:15:20 lol nickban Aug 25 18:15:37 thanks, 12.img mounted Aug 25 18:15:39 if he (or any of us) really wanted to avoid a ban... we'd just switch to a new vps on tdr Aug 25 18:15:39 WootRoot: what can I say? I'm lazy. Aug 25 18:15:46 Yeah, I know Aug 25 18:15:50 that's when the chan goes +m. Aug 25 18:15:54 jbruchon: but srsly though, fuck rhcp Aug 25 18:16:04 what WootRoot said Aug 25 18:16:04 WootRoot: eeeewwwww Aug 25 18:16:08 WootRoot: I'm not gay. Aug 25 18:16:09 arcee: don't lie Aug 25 18:16:10 you'd hit that Aug 25 18:16:19 he bitches like a 10 year old girl Aug 25 18:16:22 arcee: right up your alley Aug 25 18:16:37 WootRoot: I have a strict "no-parasites" policy Aug 25 18:16:37 dang we got a bunch of teamdouche up in here. Where's Benji? Aug 25 18:16:42 this is useless.. and helps no one Aug 25 18:16:42 Pulser: I've dumped all the img's Aug 25 18:16:45 arcee: there's an app for that Aug 25 18:16:46 Discussion about RHCP is no longer allowed Aug 25 18:17:05 If you kids wanna play drama queen, get the fuck out. Aug 25 18:17:11 kthxbai. Aug 25 18:17:29 This is a serious project and everyone from here on out is forgiven for their past whatevers. Aug 25 18:17:40 If you want to talk shit, do it in PMs or another channel. Aug 25 18:17:42 Thanks. Aug 25 18:17:55 kick thoose trolls Aug 25 18:18:05 k1l: doit! Aug 25 18:18:09 oh wait, you're not @ :( Aug 25 18:18:10 So, +m mutes and -m unmutes. Still relatively new to irc. Aug 25 18:18:13 too many 15yo wannabes here Aug 25 18:18:14 but rhcp is Aug 25 18:18:21 moderated mode Aug 25 18:18:21 spoiling all the community. Aug 25 18:18:25 lolol Aug 25 18:18:27 It is fun going around on this touchpad filesystem. From what I can tell it is a standard linux kernel. I love how skype has its own folder called "skypekit"... Aug 25 18:18:27 hahahaha Aug 25 18:18:28 k1l: come on man.. I'm 16 Aug 25 18:18:29 spoiling the community? Aug 25 18:18:30 gimme credit Aug 25 18:18:33 * WootRoot points at rhcp Aug 25 18:18:34 I'm a man, I'm 40 Aug 25 18:18:35 I'm only 12! Aug 25 18:18:36 that fucking twat Aug 25 18:18:38 right there Aug 25 18:18:41 There's nothing wrong with being under 18. Aug 25 18:18:43 rchp once open sourced peoples paypals Aug 25 18:18:44 k1l: I'm literally 17, I can tell you they're older than I Aug 25 18:18:47 neads to eat a bowl of dicks Aug 25 18:18:56 I make fun off them everyday for it Aug 25 18:19:04 some still behave like 15. that is the problem here Aug 25 18:19:05 of* Aug 25 18:19:05 wtf is this? Aug 25 18:19:08 EddieRingle: at least I can google+ fool Aug 25 18:19:11 EddieRingle: you got it the other way around, junior :) Aug 25 18:19:13 optedoblivion: rofl Aug 25 18:19:34 the channel will remain like this for the next 24 hjours Aug 25 18:19:36 Anyone who has a bot that can do temporary kick-bans for saying certain phrases, PM me Aug 25 18:19:38 possibly more Aug 25 18:19:54 Especially if it's like that one they had in #sankakucomplex on Rizon. Aug 25 18:19:58 That thing was awful. Aug 25 18:20:03 lol Aug 25 18:27:55 for all those joining us Aug 25 18:27:59 the channel was muted Aug 25 18:28:08 anyone who has no buissness beig here Aug 25 18:28:10 please leave Aug 25 18:30:54 cool I can talk :) Aug 25 18:30:58 what the fuck did i just walk into? Aug 25 18:31:29 Use #TouchPad for general TouchPad talk and #TouchSales for TouchPad Sales talk Aug 25 18:32:24 somehow, the +m actually got MORE people to come in here... Aug 25 18:33:19 can someone please OP me? Aug 25 18:33:33 ty Aug 25 18:33:59 is the room +m still? Aug 25 18:34:36 cmnt Aug 25 18:34:40 yes Aug 25 18:34:46 please leave it like that Aug 25 18:34:56 ProTekk...you're aop... Aug 25 18:35:06 just wondering because it's fucking quiet for once Aug 25 18:35:16 jbruchon: i know, hazy|work OP'd me Aug 25 18:35:25 WTF Aug 25 18:35:32 after +m we got MORE people Aug 25 18:35:33 WTF Aug 25 18:35:41 612 people? Aug 25 18:35:43 of course Aug 25 18:35:49 nah theres only 399 Aug 25 18:35:53 Oh. Aug 25 18:35:57 my thingy is broken Aug 25 18:36:02 i see Aug 25 18:36:03 nm Aug 25 18:36:11 well, back in a minute Aug 25 18:36:41 er, later Aug 25 18:51:50 TP should be here anytime now Aug 25 18:52:13 arelas, shush. I have to wait until this sat. not to far off though. Aug 25 18:53:52 I can't wait to start tinkering Aug 25 18:54:17 arelas: i hear ya man Aug 25 18:54:36 i havent felt this ecstatic about a project in a long time lol Aug 25 18:54:55 same here Aug 25 18:56:25 wow Aug 25 18:56:28 fuck engadget Aug 25 18:56:29 Apparently one of our own commenters, Shahzeb Jiwani, has come into possession of a similar device. Luckily for us, he's chosen to make a ROM dump available over on RootzWiki, so check out his video after the break or head over to the thread there as they try and find out how to make this work on everyone else's $99 tablet. Aug 25 18:56:47 TOTALLY out of context on what this project is trying to accomplish Aug 25 18:56:56 lol Aug 25 18:57:03 jeez Aug 25 18:57:20 when me and stephendeb25 found the unlock for the international atrix Aug 25 18:57:28 engadget made a post about it Aug 25 18:57:32 gave us no credit Aug 25 18:57:44 even tho we were the ones day in and day out searching Aug 25 18:58:05 fuck the media Aug 25 19:06:57 QUITTERS! Aug 25 19:07:02 /troll Aug 25 19:07:03 lol Aug 25 19:07:35 lol i feel like this irc room is like a house Aug 25 19:07:46 and everyone in here is peeking through the windows to see what we're doing Aug 25 19:07:49 :P Aug 25 19:08:02 lemme in damnit :) Aug 25 19:09:29 w00t! Aug 25 19:09:34 arelas: ? Aug 25 19:09:34 touchpad in hand! Aug 25 19:09:37 FUCK YOU! Aug 25 19:09:44 * ProTekk runs home Aug 25 19:09:45 lol Aug 25 19:10:03 I took off early from work to be here for it :) Aug 25 19:10:12 any of you guys watch the show "IT Crowd"? Aug 25 19:10:24 no...what channel? Aug 25 19:10:34 awww...not on US tv i think Aug 25 19:10:37 found it on netflix Aug 25 19:10:45 funny as hell though Aug 25 19:10:48 google that bitch Aug 25 19:11:57 so, should I just open it or should I troll the channel with unboxing photos :) Aug 25 19:13:26 kinda sad Aug 25 19:13:35 people have been for a week working on touchpad Aug 25 19:13:44 and the cm team gets special treatment Aug 25 19:13:45 If you have a Touchpad you are willing to part with, let us know, we would like to help out the CM team. Its up to those willing. Aug 25 19:13:54 thats from rootzwiki twitter Aug 25 19:14:06 thats the state of the android comunity Aug 25 19:15:07 people play favorites Aug 25 19:15:11 so sad Aug 25 19:15:56 we shall overcome! Aug 25 19:17:00 is not about overcoming Aug 25 19:17:04 is politics Aug 25 19:17:24 in the world of open source android Aug 25 19:17:29 collaboration dosnt exist Aug 25 19:17:34 only people that think they have a right Aug 25 19:17:49 SamCripp, sounds like congress. Aug 25 19:17:56 and others that do a lot and dont get the right Aug 25 19:18:33 no Aug 25 19:18:41 is only what people see and dont see Aug 25 19:18:44 dont get me wrong Aug 25 19:19:19 cm is a group of terrific guys Aug 25 19:19:25 but playing favorites is shitty Aug 25 19:19:49 no one is saying b16 dint or did anything Aug 25 19:19:54 relac mister robbiej Aug 25 19:20:04 im just saying playing favorites is not good for the comunity Aug 25 19:20:11 booting up Aug 25 19:20:31 * scriptic sets the timer for 5mins. Aug 25 19:20:47 is the initial boot that bad? Aug 25 19:21:06 must be Aug 25 19:21:19 it's pulsing a hp logo at me Aug 25 19:21:37 ok, set up Aug 25 19:24:01 setup complete, restarting Aug 25 19:25:11 ok, it's running...time to break it! Aug 25 19:48:59 n_i_x...PM me Aug 25 19:49:00 plox Aug 25 19:49:43 Guest60349: PM me Aug 25 19:49:49 shit Aug 25 19:49:55 Guest30091: Aug 25 19:49:56 pm me Aug 25 19:49:58 not you Aug 25 19:57:54 jbruchon: y u no have ops? Aug 25 20:01:16 ProTekk: I no have identify Aug 25 20:01:22 we still +m? Aug 25 20:01:40 he's the known unknown Aug 25 20:01:45 jbruchon: yupp Aug 25 20:13:37 any sing of trolling Aug 25 20:13:43 this channel will be mute again Aug 25 20:14:04 Yay I can finally ask dev questions! Aug 25 20:14:30 I am looking through these images, some of them are blank space some of them are not. How are these supposed to be useful? Aug 25 20:14:31 indeed Aug 25 20:14:34 * fumanchu182 is new to this stuff Aug 25 20:14:42 i have a patch for extra early klog Aug 25 20:14:47 we are still studying them Aug 25 20:14:53 not all of them are necessary Aug 25 20:14:55 hey in the android dumps, 13.img says its userspace partition Aug 25 20:15:00 when mounting i get an error Aug 25 20:15:17 has anyone mounted the 13.img successfully? Aug 25 20:15:18 douchey, we dont have acess to the tp droid tablet right now Aug 25 20:15:18 jonpry: weren't you also at the hd2 android project at some point? :) Aug 25 20:15:26 as soon as we do we plan to run a second dump Aug 25 20:15:34 we think something is wrong with more than one dump Aug 25 20:15:46 ahhh ok thanks Aug 25 20:15:51 i'll hold off then Aug 25 20:16:01 Tsury i never worked on hd2, but the armv6 variants, raph, tp2 Aug 25 20:16:04 will you post the dump in the same place? Aug 25 20:16:23 i think so Aug 25 20:16:26 jonpry: guess I heard your name over some tools talks then :] Aug 25 20:16:29 like i said earlier Aug 25 20:16:32 im not part of the team Aug 25 20:16:37 i just help whenever i can Aug 25 20:16:40 a lot Aug 25 20:16:42 LOL Aug 25 20:16:59 ok not following all the chatter, figured you were part since you muted the room Aug 25 20:17:11 thanks for the help Aug 25 20:17:23 np Aug 25 20:17:29 someone says in 8.img is the boot.img - is this real? Aug 25 20:17:38 douchey, are you using chrome? Aug 25 20:17:48 nope firefox Aug 25 20:18:00 sirana, the images dump today are 100% from a tp running touchpad Aug 25 20:18:07 okay douchey Aug 25 20:18:09 SamCripp i know Aug 25 20:18:10 just making sure Aug 25 20:18:26 i'm seeing the 4.img is the boot Aug 25 20:18:29 someone get me 50% off zagg.com code plss Aug 25 20:18:30 partitions Aug 25 20:18:42 grandy #touchpad Aug 25 20:18:46 but i only wanted to know that 8.img is the boot ... Aug 25 20:18:55 http://pastebin.com/NMSqswdf Aug 25 20:18:57 8.img is coming up as data for me Aug 25 20:19:47 ok Aug 25 20:20:15 is touch-droid.com still associated with this effort? Aug 25 20:21:48 im not sure Aug 25 20:21:59 im sorry Aug 25 20:22:12 i dont know what is what about teams Aug 25 20:22:18 does that really matter? Aug 25 20:22:20 for that you gonna have to forgive me Aug 25 20:22:24 im just heere to work Aug 25 20:22:27 Is this a good place to ask a question about the ROM dump? Aug 25 20:22:27 i'm sorry, it's in the topic Aug 25 20:22:36 yes Aug 25 20:22:53 OK, so the ROM dump was made by using dd, right? Aug 25 20:22:59 yes Aug 25 20:23:12 by the way Aug 25 20:23:13 Would it be a bad idea to dd it back to the Touchpad? Aug 25 20:23:20 yes Aug 25 20:23:21 theres 3 confirm tablets that shipped with android Aug 25 20:23:27 a very bad idea Aug 25 20:23:41 Darn. Aug 25 20:23:42 if a tablet has android, does it just boot that way? Aug 25 20:23:49 correct Aug 25 20:24:06 this was just lucky finds for peeps Aug 25 20:24:10 how many tablets have been known to contain Android 2.2 on 'em? Aug 25 20:24:22 16:19 <@SamCripp> theres 3 confirm tablets that shipped with android Aug 25 20:24:27 lol thanks Aug 25 20:24:39 my personal opinion Aug 25 20:24:44 about this rouges tablets Aug 25 20:24:58 mad HP employees? Aug 25 20:25:07 maybe Qualcomm guys Aug 25 20:25:17 pissed at the discontinuation of the device Aug 25 20:25:17 hp engineers palying with a possibilitys during testing stages Aug 25 20:25:26 and since all devices must go Aug 25 20:25:29 that means all devices Aug 25 20:26:06 Yay Aug 25 20:26:11 what guides should devs be looking at? Aug 25 20:26:11 @_@ Aug 25 20:26:16 Maybe every Touchpad had Android on it when they came from Qualcomm, and couple didn't get flashed to webOS by mistake Aug 25 20:26:21 guides for> Aug 25 20:26:31 did the dev's get the qualcomm device? Aug 25 20:26:40 no Aug 25 20:26:49 maybe a dev wiki or something? Aug 25 20:26:53 we were contacted by someone who had a pad running it Aug 25 20:26:56 Can someone elaborate why dd back to the TouchPad is a bad idea? Why wouldn't that work? Its all the same hardware. Aug 25 20:26:58 for touchdroid Aug 25 20:26:59 and with the magic of ssh and adb Aug 25 20:27:01 blam Aug 25 20:27:03 system dump Aug 25 20:27:18 because niamu Aug 25 20:27:27 bootie has to be prepare for booting android Aug 25 20:27:36 as well as the nand needs to be prtition for it Aug 25 20:27:39 the current effort Aug 25 20:27:45 for me an another fellow atleast Aug 25 20:27:50 is simply to dual boot Aug 25 20:27:54 ah. understood. thanks Aug 25 20:27:55 with the current system dump Aug 25 20:29:42 HP just really likes charlie and the chocolate factory and wanted to release 5 "golden tickets" Aug 25 20:29:52 lol autoprime Aug 25 20:29:53 2 tickets left Aug 25 20:29:56 lol Aug 25 20:30:12 brb, gotta rebettt. Aug 25 20:30:38 * matthewsm hehe Aug 25 20:30:41 this does raise bigger issues though, if HP are dumping dev units out in production, what does that mean about refurbs, returns, and rejects Aug 25 20:30:57 * matthewsm is listening to "Floating Away" by Folio Aug 25 20:31:27 has anyone thought of dd'ing the whole NAND of a just-opened Touchpad and looking for removed files/filesystems? Aug 25 20:32:01 if Android was used during factory testing, some files might have remained not overwritten when WebOS is flashed Aug 25 20:32:16 this happened on the Wii Aug 25 20:32:26 oh i see Aug 25 20:32:45 nvm i dont see Aug 25 20:32:49 if nobody does it by the time i get my 2nd one ill do it Aug 25 20:33:07 I would provide a ROM dump of mine, but I've installed Uberkernel already Aug 25 20:33:10 screw that, I am installing windows 95! Aug 25 20:33:16 lol^ Aug 25 20:33:38 well, there's dosbox for android Aug 25 20:33:46 screw that, I am installing windows 95! Aug 25 20:33:52 ^ Aug 25 20:34:08 then i will install gearhead garage Aug 25 20:34:58 I Iz Back. Aug 25 20:35:09 * matthewsm is afk for a little while, he is trying to install windows 95 on his TP Aug 25 20:35:29 i have 3.1 on my Desire Aug 25 20:35:38 * farchord was not aware that Microsoft released an ARM processor compliant of Windows 95. Aug 25 20:35:46 *version Aug 25 20:36:07 * zenitraM was not aware that ARM processors even existed when Windows 95 was launched Aug 25 20:36:11 wasn't windows nt multiarch? Aug 25 20:36:16 is a android chroot possible? because than we can use android apps in chroot.... Aug 25 20:36:21 * matthewsm is back. Found out that microsoft didnt release and arm processor for windows 95 Aug 25 20:36:32 ... Aug 25 20:36:44 duh Aug 25 20:36:46 theres always qemu Aug 25 20:36:51 use dosbox Aug 25 20:37:01 * zenitraM buys 200 touchpads on the hope that one of them contains windows 95 preinstalled Aug 25 20:37:03 oh, why cant there be an android app emulator for webos? Aug 25 20:37:16 for seriously... Aug 25 20:37:18 matthewsm: thats what im really hoping for. i love webos so far Aug 25 20:37:24 because nobody has developed it yet? Aug 25 20:37:27 * farchord would prefer Windows Neptune. Or Windows Whistler. Aug 25 20:37:44 webos + android apps = rules the world Aug 25 20:37:50 ^ Aug 25 20:38:17 no Aug 25 20:38:19 yes Aug 25 20:38:22 >.> Aug 25 20:38:26 no Aug 25 20:38:27 Leave it at that Aug 25 20:38:34 webos really lacks apps Aug 25 20:38:35 tp + ICS = rules the world Aug 25 20:38:47 Maybe Aug 25 20:38:48 just to clear someotthing up Aug 25 20:38:55 i mean there is not even a irc programm in teh official market. Aug 25 20:38:56 webos has more tablet apps that android does Aug 25 20:39:01 woot Aug 25 20:39:02 lol Aug 25 20:39:03 owned Aug 25 20:39:04 my TP just came Aug 25 20:39:06 android tablet apps are pretty much none existant Aug 25 20:39:14 oh fuck a giant bug in my room Aug 25 20:39:25 no thanks Aug 25 20:39:28 hyperion, i hate you <.< Aug 25 20:39:35 SamCripp: but you can use smartphone apps. which is better than no apps Aug 25 20:39:42 ^ Aug 25 20:39:53 ;D! Aug 25 20:39:53 you also can do that on webos Aug 25 20:39:54 at least android phone apps have a chance of working on a tablet Aug 25 20:39:58 i dont see the hate Aug 25 20:39:59 on webos Aug 25 20:40:04 I guess if you want a successful tablet then you have to choose the obvious one.. Aug 25 20:40:08 a lot of the phone apps for webos are broken on the tp Aug 25 20:40:10 as a plataform is better desing for tablet thatn honycomb Aug 25 20:40:11 You all know what I mean Aug 25 20:40:17 honeycomb is more flashy Aug 25 20:40:22 and webos lacks polish Aug 25 20:40:30 no netflix app Aug 25 20:40:35 that's my beef with it Aug 25 20:40:37 android with it's tron style? Aug 25 20:40:45 no FTP app Aug 25 20:40:50 the real question is, does the xbmc app work right? Aug 25 20:40:52 android gingerbread is less flashy than webos Aug 25 20:40:52 sup Aug 25 20:41:00 unmuted again eh? Aug 25 20:41:10 only until someone asks about it! Aug 25 20:41:12 ;) Aug 25 20:41:31 http://twitpic.com/6b4pc8 Aug 25 20:41:32 evening terraceos Aug 25 20:41:36 wootnes Aug 25 20:41:37 s Aug 25 20:41:39 SamCripp: the rest of webos is really nice. i can think of using this. but if you once handled the mass of apps like in android there is something you miss Aug 25 20:41:55 yes Aug 25 20:41:58 a mix of both would be great Aug 25 20:42:03 the 300 vcrappy version of the same app Aug 25 20:42:04 rhcp is about to touch that pad in all the right places Aug 25 20:42:07 i def miss that Aug 25 20:42:29 SamCripp: is hatin gon android, get em! Aug 25 20:42:29 @rhcp maybe do a ROM dump via dd like zenitraM suggested Aug 25 20:42:35 smileyscout, dude stop with the mental image! XD Aug 25 20:42:44 def not Aug 25 20:42:46 not the rom but the whole NAND, if even possible Aug 25 20:42:54 not now. need a few mins to even open it :) Aug 25 20:42:57 anyone know of to dump arm binaries on x86? Aug 25 20:42:58 im just saying people need to stop thinking android is high and mighty Aug 25 20:43:05 i dont do well around strangers without my gun :) Aug 25 20:43:07 theres like 100 apps in the market worth taking a look at Aug 25 20:43:11 the rest is garbage Aug 25 20:43:11 didnt wanna scare the guy off :) Aug 25 20:43:14 Enjoy. There's even a cleaning cloth in the box:) Aug 25 20:43:14 objdump says I can't Aug 25 20:43:15 the same thing in ios Aug 25 20:43:22 and im sure the same thing in webos Aug 25 20:43:27 SamCripp: i mean you dont need a zinillion apps in store, because 90% are crap. but a bit more or more specially a bit wider range would be very nice in webos. there are some things i cant do on TP because there isnt a fecking app there Aug 25 20:43:40 oh come on, webos only has 2 fart apps while android has 383 and ios has 897 Aug 25 20:43:40 webos is the best! Aug 25 20:43:48 yes Aug 25 20:43:56 i def need a wider range of fart apps Aug 25 20:43:58 i'm not done downloading the dump, when it's done, what's the juicy parts of the code? Aug 25 20:44:08 if that's even known Aug 25 20:44:08 webos is good android is good, and ios is good Aug 25 20:44:09 ne one? dumping arm on x86? Aug 25 20:44:14 is down to polish Aug 25 20:44:36 SamCripp sadly webos does actually lack crucial apps for most people. it is a shame Aug 25 20:44:43 being able to run webOS + android > being able to run only WebOS Aug 25 20:45:09 i dont really even use that many apps Aug 25 20:45:09 wtb dual bootz :) Aug 25 20:45:13 ugh touchstone order cancelled Aug 25 20:45:16 plus a full web browser w/ flash = better than apps Aug 25 20:45:25 we just need to figure out a way to "lock" the scrolling so we can pass swiping to flash Aug 25 20:45:36 lonequid. almost. i need some notifications for things though Aug 25 20:45:37 anyone tried the vnc client on the webos store? Aug 25 20:45:53 they should ugprade the browser to support html5 notifications Aug 25 20:45:54 thatd be awesome Aug 25 20:45:57 yes Aug 25 20:46:00 that would be Aug 25 20:46:09 they should have proper tabbing in the browser Aug 25 20:46:09 they have the private browsing patch, so they can modify the browser, i wonder how hard it would be Aug 25 20:46:16 theres an app in the store which adds tabbing Aug 25 20:46:22 you guys Aug 25 20:46:24 all of you Aug 25 20:46:28 now you have a webos device Aug 25 20:46:30 Private browing is available via homebrew Aug 25 20:46:31 so go bug hp Aug 25 20:46:35 and tell them Aug 25 20:46:36 you know Aug 25 20:46:39 webos lacks this Aug 25 20:46:41 and needs this Aug 25 20:46:47 they can make those things better for you Aug 25 20:46:48 im trying to get hp to fix the browser and self signed SSL Aug 25 20:46:48 not us Aug 25 20:46:58 if you hit "trust always" it doesnt trust always and still nags you Aug 25 20:48:02 so is that 2.2.1 dump really all that useful? Aug 25 20:48:15 900th person to ask that Aug 25 20:48:19 yes it is Aug 25 20:48:25 of course Aug 25 20:48:33 thats good. notice i wasn't asking how to flash it. :-P Aug 25 20:48:41 should add that to the title, "Yes, it's useful" Aug 25 20:48:44 Okay, do you guys need hosting help? Aug 25 20:48:54 it's actually entirely useless. it is all just a rouse. Aug 25 20:49:27 we dont need hosting help Aug 25 20:49:28 we need tps Aug 25 20:49:29 tps Aug 25 20:49:34 the one help Aug 25 20:49:36 i would add a small paragraph to the rootzwiki post saying how it is useful and that will keep derpers like myself from asking all day Aug 25 20:49:37 * lonequid hands SamCripp a roll of tp Aug 25 20:49:39 I can send you 12 rolls? Aug 25 20:49:39 more apreciated than all is tps Aug 25 20:49:58 is not that devs dint buy them and are asking Aug 25 20:49:59 devs Aug 25 20:50:02 including myself Aug 25 20:50:04 all bought Aug 25 20:50:07 and got canceled Aug 25 20:50:08 so yes Aug 25 20:50:11 we need tps Aug 25 20:50:15 donations or for purchase Aug 25 20:50:19 as log as is not a rip off Aug 25 20:50:43 SamCripp how many of the devs has got one? Aug 25 20:50:45 I thought donations were not accepted. period. Aug 25 20:50:46 i read somewhere in this touchpad fiasco that honeycomb 3.2 supports the APQ8060, true or not rrue? Aug 25 20:50:52 rhcp has one Aug 25 20:51:00 i think like 4 of the 9 or 10 i was helping earlier Aug 25 20:51:02 posted a twitpic of it a few minutes ago Aug 25 20:51:08 ok Aug 25 20:51:19 niamu, money is not accepted Aug 25 20:51:27 and to be honest a device is also not accepted Aug 25 20:51:29 most devs Aug 25 20:51:32 rather buy Aug 25 20:51:42 but im sure no one is gonna turn down a device donation Aug 25 20:52:03 i might be able to supply a few almost at cost Aug 25 20:52:34 Im trying to get more Aug 25 20:52:37 btw i did pay for it Aug 25 20:52:43 no rip off Aug 25 20:52:45 but i'd like to help with dev, so i might keep them Aug 25 20:52:55 i still have 3 order pending Aug 25 20:53:38 im camping at Best Buy sat morning Aug 25 20:53:49 ours is supposed to sell between 8-18 Aug 25 20:54:07 i already have my touchpad. ill be dodging hurricanes saturday morning. Aug 25 20:54:19 i thought Best Buy stock was going stale...? Aug 25 20:54:35 One of my orders was cancelled, I really hope the other one ships Aug 25 20:55:03 how many people here used Slickdeals.net in their search? Aug 25 20:55:17 twitter ftw Aug 25 20:55:28 i was on the slickdeals thread friday nght when it broke Aug 25 20:55:58 slickdeals is my homepage Aug 25 20:56:02 bestbuy is getting more touchpads saturday morning? Aug 25 20:56:50 I'd be broke if slickdeals was my homepage Aug 25 20:57:04 hehe Aug 25 20:57:15 then again...I am broke Aug 25 20:57:21 ire: amen Aug 25 20:57:41 so I guess no change Aug 25 20:57:46 hah, thomas got it booting Aug 25 20:57:47 BestBuy is getting more? Online or in store? Aug 25 20:58:01 i get 1k+ cc bills cause of them lol Aug 25 20:58:09 kinda slaps those in the face that called him not a real dev Aug 25 20:58:11 jason2gs in store Aug 25 20:58:23 he kinda just showed u guys up... Aug 25 20:58:35 what ups Aug 25 20:59:44 the tp boots, eh? Aug 25 20:59:48 http://vimeo.com/28167038 Aug 25 20:59:51 interesting, I ordered 2x32GB from onsale/amazon. I got a cancel notice from one, and a shipped notice from one, yesterday. As of yesterday afternoon I could see the one remaining order on both amazon and onsale's websites, but not that order has dissapeared from both websites, however I still have the tracking number and apparently it IS on itr's way. I hope they don't intercept it tho!! Aug 25 20:59:58 thats from trsohmers Aug 25 21:00:06 hell yea trolls on the dump thread Aug 25 21:00:11 s/but not/but now Aug 25 21:00:55 what the fuck is this pdf? Aug 25 21:01:00 It won't open in evince Aug 25 21:01:01 or chrome Aug 25 21:01:34 IRONMatt neat Aug 25 21:02:01 that pdf was downloading at 5KB/s Aug 25 21:02:28 either he has a android-from-factory TP or he made the dump booting, or? Aug 25 21:02:32 but I'm able to view statement.pdf in okular Aug 25 21:02:33 state of emergency in NJ fucking IRENE Aug 25 21:04:11 o look at that theres one in Ny too Aug 25 21:04:50 hey guys, whats on the right side of the touchpad, closer to the home button than the volume button? Aug 25 21:05:01 its like a little piece of plastic cut out then put back in Aug 25 21:05:07 dust collector Aug 25 21:05:11 Live in Fargo = no hurricanes. Aug 25 21:05:24 hyperion, push it, it's your serial # Aug 25 21:05:26 it pops out Aug 25 21:05:28 hyperion: that is a slot where you could put a sim slot or sd slot Aug 25 21:06:11 THATS SO CLEVER Aug 25 21:06:13 OMG Aug 25 21:06:24 hahahah Aug 25 21:06:25 an sd card slot would have been better Aug 25 21:06:27 lol Aug 25 21:06:28 yeah Aug 25 21:06:32 hdmi port would have been better Aug 25 21:06:37 super hdmi Aug 25 21:06:40 +1 for hdmi Aug 25 21:06:40 and thunderbolt Aug 25 21:06:48 fuck thunderbolt Aug 25 21:06:50 all in one slot would be best i think :) Aug 25 21:06:52 USB 3.0 Aug 25 21:06:57 LOL Aug 25 21:07:02 it has a usb port Aug 25 21:07:06 an ipod port Aug 25 21:07:14 ew Aug 25 21:07:15 nope PCI slot Aug 25 21:07:20 a fleshlight port... Aug 25 21:07:20 PCIe Aug 25 21:07:22 lmfao Aug 25 21:07:23 oh snap Aug 25 21:07:25 ipod dock m( Aug 25 21:07:30 ISA slot baby for my sb 16 Aug 25 21:07:41 lol descending Aug 25 21:08:12 whos channel op? Aug 25 21:08:57 not me Aug 25 21:09:01 neer2005: take a look at user list. if you mean the founder ask chanserv's access list Aug 25 21:09:03 just so you are all away, team touchdroid just had their ass handed to them Aug 25 21:09:27 *aware Aug 25 21:09:32 k1l: kk Aug 25 21:09:44 Any idea how much of a bitch it was to get it running? Aug 25 21:09:46 oh shit asses handed Aug 25 21:10:10 IRONMatt? Aug 25 21:10:14 i say my ports gonna be dont before team touchdroid Aug 25 21:10:16 IRONMatt: details? Aug 25 21:10:24 http://vimeo.com/28167038 Aug 25 21:10:26 the 15 year old got it booting Aug 25 21:10:37 15 srs? Aug 25 21:10:42 IRONMatt, that is the same image we already have on our TP fool Aug 25 21:10:44 oh thats old ;) Aug 25 21:10:45 hey al Aug 25 21:10:48 idk how he did it, but thomas got it Aug 25 21:10:55 no, this is a different Aug 25 21:10:58 video Aug 25 21:11:01 SEEN IT Aug 25 21:11:01 lol Aug 25 21:11:03 ya he posted it 20 min ago ;) Aug 25 21:11:05 old Aug 25 21:11:09 https://twitter.com/#!/trsohmers/status/106830480686579713 Aug 25 21:11:10 lol Aug 25 21:11:10 I love that he makes sure to point out that he's not associated. Aug 25 21:11:10 that is te Aug 25 21:11:11 lol Aug 25 21:11:40 he same touchpad I believe 'was' sent to android central Aug 25 21:11:45 how the fuck does he have an MIT edu ? Aug 25 21:11:46 magn3ts: well he got trolled last night and names were thrown around, so it makes sense Aug 25 21:11:54 neer2005, he went to a summer camp there Aug 25 21:12:02 hazy|work: lucky bitch Aug 25 21:12:04 I don't believe it Aug 25 21:12:05 neer2005: mit kids club Aug 25 21:12:16 fuck i wishi i could do that Aug 25 21:12:23 fuck living in NJ Aug 25 21:12:32 neer2005, no you don't. it's full of ego freak kids like trsohmers Aug 25 21:12:58 is he really a kid ? or just fuckin with ya guys Aug 25 21:13:02 he's 15 Aug 25 21:13:03 stop. you are now going to label MIT as your own perception of a kid? Aug 25 21:13:07 he really is Aug 25 21:13:15 IRONMatt, NO, JUST THEIR SUMMER CAMPS Aug 25 21:13:19 ;) Aug 25 21:13:27 lol Aug 25 21:13:34 he might have got it working, regardless you can tell it's slower than a box of rocks Aug 25 21:13:38 lol Aug 25 21:13:47 so any got the kernel for t Aug 25 21:13:47 it doesn't matter what is working until there is a ROM we can all use anyway Aug 25 21:13:50 well i got wait listed for their camp so... am i now an ego freak? Aug 25 21:13:51 seems to boot fast Aug 25 21:14:05 from the dump to yet Aug 25 21:14:06 IRONMatt, well you are obvisouly friends with trsohmers, so i'd bet yo are Aug 25 21:14:17 damn yo kids got talent if he truly did it Aug 25 21:14:38 he didnt do anything I think Aug 25 21:14:45 hey guys. pls keep the emotions low on _both_ sides. Aug 25 21:14:54 I think its the one already with android on it Aug 25 21:15:06 im not "friends" with him. we have spoken on a few occasions, but im siding on him becuase all of you douches are giving him crap. ive BEEN where he is and its stressful. Aug 25 21:15:22 what is the model number in that video? Aug 25 21:15:32 IRONMatt, you weren't here for any of it so please don't try to comment. kthx Aug 25 21:15:48 unless he copied every piece of it (ie Qualcomm logo) and did it himself, I think its that one Aug 25 21:15:52 IRONMatt: im not giving him shitt Aug 25 21:15:55 2.2.1 Aug 25 21:16:14 altimax98: the dump was made available to everyone... Aug 25 21:16:17 shouldn't you be in the #androtouch channel pandering your wares anyway IRONMatt ? Aug 25 21:16:19 no, end of the video, About phone Aug 25 21:17:00 general talk in #touchpad please. Aug 25 21:19:44 wow Aug 25 21:19:51 so what does that model number say? Aug 25 21:19:57 it's something_topaz Aug 25 21:20:00 kj Aug 25 21:20:06 Crix-, NCC-1701-E Aug 25 21:20:30 lol funny must be a trekie Aug 25 21:20:32 topaz = htc touch diamond 2 Aug 25 21:20:34 msm5660_topaz is what I make out. Aug 25 21:20:41 8660 Aug 25 21:20:45 the HP logo says cypresstouch Aug 25 21:21:06 thank you hazy|work, similar processors right? Aug 25 21:21:26 what is your favorite hex viewer for linux Aug 25 21:21:31 i find it tstrange that someone bought a touchpad with android installed Aug 25 21:22:09 Deihmos1, well they probably didn't know it had anrdoid until they got it home Aug 25 21:22:50 i mean what is android doing on the touchpad in a retail box Aug 25 21:22:55 how likely is that Aug 25 21:23:26 pretty likely if they just dumped all the stock as fast as they could Aug 25 21:24:06 well if the factory new that they did not have to produce (example) 100 more and they can just wipe off and put there dev units into boxes he'll that is pure profit for them. It is not like HP is going to be making any more tablets and possibly pcs Aug 25 21:24:36 dam webOS auto correcgt Aug 25 21:25:29 khexedit is good Aug 25 21:25:34 the first one was bought at BB on saturday Aug 25 21:25:44 so that means the tablet was in BBs possession before the announcement/firesale started Aug 25 21:25:56 so i dont think it has to do with "dumping all the stock as fast as they could" Aug 25 21:26:02 does not mean the manufacture did not know about it. Aug 25 21:26:07 anyone used a galaxy tab? does it give work suggestions? Aug 25 21:26:15 ? Aug 25 21:26:21 like "you should be working harder?" Aug 25 21:26:42 dudes theres so much drama Aug 25 21:26:51 did you guys see the ebay auction for the qualcomm android build running on an 32gb touchpad? it's up to $810. This guy is saying you can claim the bounty with it. Probably an old froyo build that won't claim the prize Aug 25 21:26:52 http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-TouchPad-32GB-running-Android-/230664585087 Aug 25 21:27:10 if you could claim bounty that guy would have Aug 25 21:27:16 exactly Aug 25 21:27:17 tgolubev: there's even a cancelled bid for 1000$ Aug 25 21:27:17 this morning it was at 700 Aug 25 21:27:32 LordNibbler: starting price was 500$ Aug 25 21:28:11 that is crazy money right there Aug 25 21:28:12 at least the shipping is FREE Aug 25 21:28:26 ebay should shut down the u Aug 25 21:28:35 the auction Aug 25 21:28:52 why Aug 25 21:29:03 it does not violate any ebay rules Aug 25 21:29:17 Ok finally received my Touchpad today :) Aug 25 21:29:24 no it shouldnt what are you talkin about Aug 25 21:29:27 guess your right Aug 25 21:29:30 anyone in dev, would installing uberkernel/govna disallow me from installing android when it comes Aug 25 21:29:38 no Aug 25 21:29:44 After playing with this for a few hours, I've decided I will not change to an old version of Andriod Aug 25 21:30:10 Defcom: play with it a couple more hours and u'll change your mind ;) Aug 25 21:30:13 Defcom, have you Preware'd it yet? Aug 25 21:30:20 no Aug 25 21:30:37 got to put it on there Aug 25 21:30:47 hours ago, there was http://www.hptouchpadsale.com/ Aug 25 21:30:51 i unboxed it, tried facebook, updated to 3.0.2 then installed preware Aug 25 21:31:10 it was a scam that claimed to sell you a $49 "ebook" on how / where to buy the touchpad Aug 25 21:31:17 ok let me do Aug 25 21:31:35 im following this guide Aug 25 21:31:36 http://forums.precentral.net/hp-touchpad/293028-new-touchpad-heres-your-get-started-guide.html Aug 25 21:31:38 Think i'll stick to the HP OS till Ice Cream comes out, no point downgrading to an old Andriod version Aug 25 21:31:38 unboxed, checked email installed prepare with testing feeds to see how fast I could push it. Aug 25 21:31:51 but most people would have thought it was the pad itself. Even in the paypal checkout it said touchpad. Aug 25 21:32:18 wow Aug 25 21:33:04 android 2.2 looks liek it ran a lot faster than webos Aug 25 21:33:10 browser opened instantly Aug 25 21:33:16 because webos is slow... Aug 25 21:33:20 and NOT smooth.. Aug 25 21:33:24 slowos Aug 25 21:33:57 how many images where there Aug 25 21:34:26 awesome. will install preware Aug 25 21:34:32 good find :D Aug 25 21:34:59 one last question.. the movies I download on torrent.. average size is 700mb, will they play fine ? Aug 25 21:35:08 or do I need to 'convert' it as been rumoured Aug 25 21:35:09 same, wondering that too Aug 25 21:35:25 Defcom, no Aug 25 21:35:34 ok Aug 25 21:35:34 they cannot play Aug 25 21:35:47 ugh. you guys need to do research elsewhere. This is not constructive to the channel. Aug 25 21:35:48 is there any vlc sort of app or something ? Aug 25 21:35:59 there is a software in preware that is suppose to play anything but it can only use cpu Aug 25 21:36:11 ok Aug 25 21:36:37 what app is that deihmos? Aug 25 21:36:51 really not sure why more ops aren't coming down on this. Aug 25 21:37:23 touchplayer Aug 25 21:38:05 niamu, ssshush. the Ops are busy coding/modding Aug 25 21:38:11 thnx Aug 25 21:38:28 any ideas on when the new dump is coming? Aug 25 21:38:43 there's another dump on the way? Aug 25 21:38:50 what where the file types for images 2-3 Aug 25 21:39:05 Defcom, the app in preware is called touchplayer Aug 25 21:39:05 data Aug 25 21:39:30 Defcom: there is also app catalog app that can play divx etc common formats at least 720p Aug 25 21:40:07 if you dont mind dropping $8.00 Aug 25 21:40:17 sure. that's nothing Aug 25 21:40:22 cheaper than lunch Aug 25 21:40:23 I find the apps are really costly. maybe because they have this monopoly Aug 25 21:40:34 agreed Deihmos1 Aug 25 21:40:39 I bought dice player for android for about 2.99 Aug 25 21:40:57 its smooth for me Aug 25 21:41:02 oops was scrolled up Aug 25 21:41:09 i cant find myself buying anything because i cannot use it on another device Aug 25 21:41:11 hey Aug 25 21:41:23 I got 2 tps on saturday Aug 25 21:41:30 lol this is so good, http://poststuff2.entensity.net/082411/ben.jpg Aug 25 21:41:52 is anyone going to release a test kernel/build or is everyone going to wait until a final build comes out to collect that bounty Aug 25 21:42:53 $2000 is a lot of money Aug 25 21:43:37 if they wait until its really final stage it will take ages :/ Aug 25 21:44:13 ok some how my son turned on screen capture how do you turn it off Aug 25 21:44:17 Sorted! Aug 25 21:44:22 get this one : KalemSoft Media Player Aug 25 21:45:12 preware is great Aug 25 21:45:14 i mean i understand that they dont want to release nightly builds and everyone then complaining that its not working or shit :/ but when you look at other projects (cm or other mods or ports) they come up with betas at least. Aug 25 21:45:17 1.7ghz oc? Aug 25 21:45:23 crazy Aug 25 21:45:43 it runs just fine at 1.7 no issues here with it Aug 25 21:45:44 siestacatontp: thats what im runnign Aug 25 21:46:14 neer2005 I was running at 1.5 until my device crashed Aug 25 21:46:28 haven't re-installed uberkernel yet Aug 25 21:46:42 siestacatontp: my device only crashed at 1.9 , at 1.7 its stable Aug 25 21:46:51 try the F15C kernel Aug 25 21:46:57 f15 was just updated Aug 25 21:47:01 k1l: there is something to be said for waiting just so you don't get all the whiners that the iPhoneOS dev team had to deal with regarding bricked phones. Aug 25 21:47:02 I had an unrelated crash Aug 25 21:47:17 I hope nightlys are released Aug 25 21:47:41 every night ? wtf no. weeklys sure.. homiez got jobs you know Aug 25 21:47:49 if they had that philosophy with the nook, it wouldnt have working BT, DSP, CM7, USB Host......... Aug 25 21:47:49 Test Aug 25 21:47:51 altimax98_: whats in the changelog? Aug 25 21:47:58 Oh shit I can talk yo Aug 25 21:48:06 lmao Aug 25 21:48:12 im not sure, they dont really make a changelog, or atleast he doesnt Aug 25 21:49:10 o wait... remove CPU disabling hack < thats what it says.... i dont get it lol Aug 25 21:49:20 lol Aug 25 21:49:33 where's the f15c kernel? Aug 25 21:49:33 ill update once my sis is done playing angry birds Aug 25 21:49:42 it says it is 1.9! Aug 25 21:49:58 siestacatontp: you have to get the other repo source Aug 25 21:49:58 1.9 works only on certain devices Aug 25 21:50:08 niamu: i think its pretty safe as long as you dont touch bootloader, but i dont wanna be the first who really bricked it :) i can understand that. even with the pressure everyone buying a TP an demands to put android on it, i can understand to not put unstable public Aug 25 21:50:09 HousePoor: its unstable for me at 1.7 Aug 25 21:50:15 at 1.9 *** Aug 25 21:50:23 before you ask.... home key + power reboots a locked device Aug 25 21:50:27 neer2005 which? I have the testing feeds Aug 25 21:50:32 you may need it ;) Aug 25 21:50:42 siestacatontp: theres a testing kernel feed Aug 25 21:50:53 is preware install reversable? Aug 25 21:51:04 neer2005, ok, thanks Aug 25 21:51:10 Crux- yes Aug 25 21:51:15 the progress of touchdroid: https://github.com/TouchDroid/ Aug 25 21:51:16 crix-: Aug 25 21:51:26 LOL Aug 25 21:51:31 you can remove stuff thats been installed, and there is a stock kernal download, if thats what you mean Aug 25 21:51:38 I think they are hidding it from the public IRONMatt Aug 25 21:51:39 mm its empty IronMatt Aug 25 21:51:45 ohhhh Aug 25 21:51:46 lol, just seen a chick pass by outside my appartment with very very very very very very short shorts, and for some reason I had a voice similar to Gabriel Iglesias's pop in my mind saying "Daaaaaaaaaamn..." Aug 25 21:51:54 its very empty IRONMatt ;) Aug 25 21:51:55 what's happening with that 15yr old kid that got kicked out Aug 25 21:52:01 k1l: On the other hand, I'm totally with you and would love to play around with some early release stuff. I was there with the iPhoneOS devs late at night spending hours in terminal to work things out. Aug 25 21:52:13 i read somewhere in this touchpad fiasco that honeycomb 3.2 supports the APQ8060, true or not true? Aug 25 21:52:15 Defcom, he's working on the same thing we are, just elsewhere Aug 25 21:52:28 15 year old? Aug 25 21:52:31 I hope they don't release first Aug 25 21:52:31 crix - w/o source HC is almost a dud Aug 25 21:52:34 what happened? Aug 25 21:52:38 we won't be able to hear ourselves.. Aug 25 21:52:47 he loves to boast on twitter all day Aug 25 21:52:55 Defcom, it doesn't really matter who does it first, as long as they release it for everyone Aug 25 21:53:02 true Aug 25 21:53:11 Lol banhammers Aug 25 21:53:15 but we can't have the kid coming up on Techcrunch taking all the credit Aug 25 21:53:41 i think that the bounty should be donated to the charity of choice for the people involved Aug 25 21:53:43 3.2 source is avaialbe in AOSP, no? Aug 25 21:53:50 nope cirx Aug 25 21:53:52 *crix Aug 25 21:54:08 It will never be Aug 25 21:54:15 They announced that. Aug 25 21:54:16 honeycomb wont be aosp.. maybe after ICS comes out, but they wont release it to build from Aug 25 21:54:39 Crix-: Both HTC and Huawei devices use the APQ8060...so i'm hoping there is a possible of honeycomb Aug 25 21:55:20 jonse - i hope so, but with HTC and all thier stuff, i wouldnt hold hope. Maybe the huawei Aug 25 21:55:21 Huawei makes what device? Aug 25 21:55:46 the GPL/LGPL parts of honeycomb 3.2 are available in AOSP Aug 25 21:55:49 Crix-: mediapad Aug 25 21:55:54 niamu: i know this situation form the cyanogen port for motorola milestone. he releases unstable builds, and hopes to find bugs that he cant produce himself or some other devs can work on fixes or other fix solutions. also i think that needs a good infrastructure with bugtracker etc. and very good nerves on the dev side :) Aug 25 21:56:36 https://groups.google.com/group/android-building/msg/6410b44798c19d61?pli=1 Aug 25 21:56:43 i don't know if that's means anything Aug 25 21:56:46 yet Aug 25 21:57:03 ok could use a little help Aug 25 21:57:21 1.9 on latest F15=instacrash Aug 25 21:57:35 lol housepoor.... i had the same result Aug 25 21:57:53 any time I try and mount 2,3,4.IMG I get you must specify the filesystem type. I am using mount -o loop 2.IMG /somewhere/ Aug 25 21:58:24 file system type sounds like its not formatted correct Aug 25 21:59:21 if I use autofs it \ Aug 25 21:59:28 LordNibbler: Try mounting 8, 12, and 13 Aug 25 21:59:41 will do Aug 25 22:00:01 LordNibbler: actually for 8, you need to get a hold of bootimg.h from the android source to decode it. Aug 25 22:00:23 LordNibbler: There is a script out there called split_bootimg.pl...from William Enck that will help with 8. Aug 25 22:01:18 12 mounts fine 13 gave a stale nfs Aug 25 22:02:11 how are devs keeping the best track of progress? this channel? Aug 25 22:02:25 damn Aug 25 22:02:30 the speakers on this thing are crazy Aug 25 22:02:53 yrah Aug 25 22:02:56 they are good Aug 25 22:03:20 Dre thinks so too Aug 25 22:03:56 LordNibbler: I haven't tried 13, but I believe that is the data partition. 12 is the system. 8 is boot Aug 25 22:05:00 use the preware for speakervolume raise Aug 25 22:05:01 ok then I really need to get 8 up then. Aug 25 22:05:22 that pl I have never used can you give crash corse Aug 25 22:05:33 LordNibbler: http://www.enck.org/tools/split_bootimg_pl.txt Aug 25 22:05:38 hey guys whatsup with those android-running-touchpads popin up on ebay ? Aug 25 22:05:40 just tried to flash #8 and now my touchpad is bricked !!!!!! Aug 25 22:06:01 New video - http://vimeo.com/28167038 - Thomas Sohmers (not clue if this a real account or a poser) Aug 25 22:06:04 billybob_: dont be so sure its bricked Aug 25 22:06:10 im just kidding lolol Aug 25 22:06:16 fuck you billy Aug 25 22:06:17 :P Aug 25 22:06:20 :-P Aug 25 22:06:27 you scared me Aug 25 22:06:35 what are all the large downloads i need to work on the port? i have the dump, getting webos sdk, i'm sure preware in required Aug 25 22:06:41 anything else? Aug 25 22:06:50 how about a boot mechanism? Aug 25 22:06:52 i'm behind slow internet Aug 25 22:06:58 ;) Aug 25 22:07:00 altimax98_: i have the speaker vol rasie LITE , i dont wanna blow these bad boys outt Aug 25 22:07:13 haha, i have mine really loud and its only half way Aug 25 22:07:19 i love it :) i went for the max Aug 25 22:07:43 i use my headphones most of the times anyway Aug 25 22:07:54 has anyone ordered a 64gb? Aug 25 22:07:57 That vid is real - http://twitter.com/#!/trsohmers Aug 25 22:08:54 crix : when you say you have the dump do you mean the sys dump from the TP running froyo Aug 25 22:09:08 "More details will be coming soon, so stay tuned" - "if #touchdroid releases before I do, that's cool. Only reason Im doing this is for android on TP"" cool :-) Aug 25 22:09:51 yes from the rootzwiki thread on the dump Aug 25 22:10:41 anyone ever get QHSUSB_DLOAD kind of problem? Aug 25 22:10:56 any news on the touchpad? Aug 25 22:11:18 yeah Aug 25 22:11:26 they managed a port of iOS but not Android Aug 25 22:11:35 <^_^_^> sweet. Aug 25 22:11:49 lol Aug 25 22:11:55 Nothing new since this AM when we dumped 2.2 from one of the Qualcomm demo units Aug 25 22:11:59 once steve jobs left, tim cook made iOS open source Aug 25 22:12:21 after dmesg I am still getting that it is corupted Aug 25 22:12:33 neer2005, he also decided to drop mac prices down to PC prices, and reinstitute Rosetta in OSX Aug 25 22:12:36 So, iOS flashed? Aug 25 22:12:53 yeah Aug 25 22:12:56 only iOS4 Aug 25 22:12:59 it runs amazing Aug 25 22:13:04 can't get IOS5 beta 6 running Aug 25 22:13:04 like hyper spead Aug 25 22:13:07 speed* Aug 25 22:13:14 hmm, I think I'd enjoy that Aug 25 22:13:16 link? Aug 25 22:13:19 myn: i thought they got beta 5 to work ? Aug 25 22:13:20 lol Aug 25 22:13:31 myn dont worry im working on iOS 5 beta 6, almost done with it bro Aug 25 22:13:31 there's an iOS5 beta 6 Touchpad on eBay for 1.5M$ Aug 25 22:13:32 nope Aug 25 22:13:34 we haven't yet Aug 25 22:13:39 and is it dual boot? Aug 25 22:13:40 im on it Aug 25 22:13:46 bro? Aug 25 22:13:51 u mad bro? Aug 25 22:13:54 yes dual boot Aug 25 22:13:55 he mad Aug 25 22:14:03 they are working to port win7 now Aug 25 22:14:05 hmm when will the next dump be ready Aug 25 22:14:07 haha. Aug 25 22:14:09 Androids being a bitch Aug 25 22:14:17 neer2005, someone was also working on Windows 95 Aug 25 22:14:21 this sounds good to me :D Aug 25 22:14:24 LordBodak, as soon as i goto taco bell. Aug 25 22:14:27 win 7 is almost done unless you want something besides a bsod Aug 25 22:14:34 Tsury: url ? Aug 25 22:14:43 so how can I get iOS4 flashed over? Aug 25 22:14:53 he is kidding lol Aug 25 22:14:56 iOS 4? ppffft Aug 25 22:14:58 LOLOLOLOLOL Aug 25 22:15:18 you guys shouldn't mess with new people Aug 25 22:15:25 spades: you got a apple dev account in holy standings with option q12 Aug 25 22:15:25 Aiite, this is the link to get instructions on how to flash iOS, Windows 7 and Windows 95 on your touchpad: http://piv.pivpiv.dk/ Aug 25 22:15:27 spades: www.sohowcanIgetiOS4flashedover.com Aug 25 22:15:39 neer2005: did you end up getting one at best buy? Aug 25 22:15:53 headlines: "iOS4 out for the Touchpad! $2500 on eBay?" Aug 25 22:16:00 ?=! Aug 25 22:16:05 sperman: no amazon Aug 25 22:16:07 dev dev dev... Aug 25 22:16:08 ugh, may have bricked my TP :( Aug 25 22:16:13 jonpry: how? Aug 25 22:16:28 not exactly sure. started with a bad kernel Aug 25 22:16:40 omg Aug 25 22:16:40 jonpry: on webos? Aug 25 22:16:45 i received my touchpad Aug 25 22:16:45 OK GUYS STOP MESSING WITH HIM Aug 25 22:16:47 now what do i do Aug 25 22:16:49 HERES THE REAL LINK Aug 25 22:16:51 then i was mucking about in bootie, and typed reboot Aug 25 22:16:57 that was apparently a mistake Aug 25 22:17:10 spades: http://bit.ly/DKw2n Aug 25 22:17:23 * ^_^_^ wonders where this one leads Aug 25 22:17:24 THE LINK TO iOS on TP http://bit.ly/DKw2n !!!!!! Aug 25 22:17:24 i've used the reboot command in nova com before Aug 25 22:17:41 this is the real deal folks Aug 25 22:17:43 hmm, and it didn't trash it? Aug 25 22:17:47 nope Aug 25 22:18:04 have you tried doctor? Aug 25 22:18:11 its stuck in qcom bootloader Aug 25 22:18:21 So hopefully ill be getting my TP on te 26th :D Aug 25 22:18:26 QHSUSB_DLOAD Aug 25 22:18:26 it shipped out yesterday :) Aug 25 22:18:40 and I got my ream of paper in two days...so i should get the TP in two days too :D Aug 25 22:18:49 hmmm Aug 25 22:19:10 webos irc client for Touchpad? Aug 25 22:19:20 wirc Aug 25 22:19:26 sperman: an almost dead battery may have contributed Aug 25 22:19:27 got it from preware Aug 25 22:19:27 "prevent this page from displaying any adition dialogs" gotta love it neer2005 Aug 25 22:19:36 should be banned anyways. Aug 25 22:19:46 jonpry: are you letting it charge up Aug 25 22:19:47 evulhotdog: hehe chrome Aug 25 22:19:56 neer2005 hehe douche. Aug 25 22:19:56 it is a shame webos is dead because it is actually pretty tight Aug 25 22:20:07 sperman i had it hooked up for a couple of hours but i have my doubts that its actually charging Aug 25 22:20:10 OK is ICS ready for my TP? Aug 25 22:20:12 and the preware app/community rules Aug 25 22:20:13 evulhotdog: i had to lol im sry Aug 25 22:20:24 Araya213, sure is. been watching netflix apps on it all afternoon Aug 25 22:20:28 hey guys whatsup with those android-running-touchpads popin up on ebay ? Aug 25 22:20:52 jonpry: don't know what to tell you man, srry Aug 25 22:20:55 Awesome, lets get windows 8 going later tonight Aug 25 22:21:05 aDr|aN-, they are real, but old android that doesn't work well on TP Aug 25 22:21:06 lol Aug 25 22:21:11 at least some of them area real :p Aug 25 22:21:27 I bet the drivers will be helpful Aug 25 22:21:40 depends Aug 25 22:21:43 so, i go to bed now... good bye Aug 25 22:21:54 not all the drivers are legal to distribute, so we won't be using those ;p Aug 25 22:22:07 that sucks Aug 25 22:22:15 which ones aren't legal? Aug 25 22:22:17 o_0 Aug 25 22:22:29 i guess the better question is, which ones do we have available to use Aug 25 22:22:51 ko[ Aug 25 22:22:51 [ok Aug 25 22:23:22 webOS is not dead, HP is still not sure what they want to do with it Aug 25 22:23:32 hazy|work: but doesn't that somehow help touchdroid ? Aug 25 22:24:00 WebOS is dead Aug 25 22:24:26 would it be nice if HP sold webOS to google Aug 25 22:24:44 aDr|aN-, only to get an initial built going, but we can't distribute them so we'd have to find new OSS drivers to replace some before any public release of anything Aug 25 22:24:45 http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/-webos-is-not-dead-says-hp-exec-995148 Aug 25 22:24:52 Nah, google would just kill it. They should sell it to RIM Aug 25 22:24:57 aDr|aN-, way to copy me bro. Aug 25 22:25:22 but this may actually be the death of it. I dunno, if they can help the community if they GPL it Aug 25 22:25:29 since android is not OSS Aug 25 22:25:32 i didnt copy u ,.. u influenced me ,.. Aug 25 22:25:34 thats it Aug 25 22:25:41 :) Aug 25 22:26:06 tgolubev, AOSP is OSS though Aug 25 22:26:11 google could use some of the tech in webOS to make android better and also there would be some patents for defense that would go along with it. Aug 25 22:26:33 LordBodak, HP bought palm to get those patents, doubt they'll give them up for a while Aug 25 22:26:39 HP has pretty well killed webOS with the killing of the pc making, tablet making. it looks like they are weak now Aug 25 22:27:35 the trust is gone. if I was any hardware maker I would be like umm webOS or android it would be android due to I know what google is going to do. even if they are making there own phones. Aug 25 22:27:53 selling out its pc side didnt weakin IBM Aug 25 22:28:06 Yeah, but I'm surprised app developers haven't cashed in on this surge of users. Aug 25 22:28:26 Araya213: exactly, thank you. Aug 25 22:28:47 ibm was different they had a great other projects going. what does HP have all I can think of is there servers. and webos Aug 25 22:28:50 HP on the way to obscurity Aug 25 22:28:55 You never know though, there could be thousands of apps awaiting approval with HP chasing it's tail Aug 25 22:28:59 but ,.. then again im not buyin any apps for my tp since im waiting for touchdroid Aug 25 22:29:25 There's a few I'd buy just to have right now. Logmein, keepass, beyondpod Aug 25 22:29:27 LordNibbler: printers !! Aug 25 22:29:35 They way underestimate how the consumer biz carries over/ feed/ influences their commercial Aug 25 22:29:58 oh ya printers. lol well he'll there ink is so dam expensive it is worth more than gold Aug 25 22:30:44 hey guys is there nickserv or anything like that here ? Aug 25 22:30:53 oh Aug 25 22:31:18 yes Aug 25 22:31:33 found it ,.. thanks :) Aug 25 22:31:57 you guys in on #androtouch ? Aug 25 22:32:43 nope Aug 25 22:32:58 I will stick by the devs I think can get the the best product Aug 25 22:33:02 wtf is androtouch ? Aug 25 22:33:09 some lame channel Aug 25 22:33:13 dont join it Aug 25 22:33:14 trsohmer's channel I believe Aug 25 22:33:47 is android was oss, where is the HoneyComb Source? Aug 25 22:34:09 if* Aug 25 22:34:35 honeycomb wasnt os? Aug 25 22:34:39 No Aug 25 22:34:45 And neither is other parts of Android Aug 25 22:35:06 While it is more open than other platforms, it is not open-source as a whole Aug 25 22:35:11 well the baseband source can be argued to be IP Aug 25 22:35:34 wirc via prepare on touchpad-rules Aug 25 22:35:48 preware Aug 25 22:35:49 does it ? lets try Aug 25 22:35:49 Wirc is ok Aug 25 22:35:54 but in any case, I don't consider something to be open source if the development is not open to the masses Aug 25 22:36:06 that is what I have been using. I miss andchagt Aug 25 22:36:09 andchat Aug 25 22:37:27 does any one have the location to webdoctor for the tp and the corresponding .jar Aug 25 22:37:27 /join #androtouch Aug 25 22:39:10 sperman, managed to reset it somehow or another Aug 25 22:39:47 jonpry: what? Aug 25 22:40:09 TP no longer bricked Aug 25 22:40:13 LordNibbler, palm.com/ROM Aug 25 22:40:14 :) Aug 25 22:40:32 thanks Aug 25 22:43:49 does anyone know how many total Touchpads were produced Aug 25 22:44:30 and how does app-development life cycle compare to ios, android Aug 25 22:44:48 cant be compared Aug 25 22:44:51 xD Aug 25 22:45:30 It's not similiar at all Aug 25 22:46:37 ok I can see we have an image of 2.2, is it flasheable ? Aug 25 22:46:39 brb. going to watch some videos on my TP in bed, :D Aug 25 22:47:09 adult cartoons huh Aug 25 22:47:15 nope Aug 25 22:47:20 I mean normal videos Aug 25 22:47:24 just movies and the like Aug 25 22:47:34 dont get jizz on the pad.... Aug 25 22:49:41 why not is wipes off easy Aug 25 22:51:27 as long as you get it quick Aug 25 22:51:31 dont let it dry Aug 25 22:52:30 hazy|work: this is what I was looking for www.webos-internals.org/wiki/webos_doctor_versions#wifi_only Aug 25 22:52:30 spanky34, If it dries, just use a razor blade. Aug 25 22:52:48 that's what screen protectors are for Aug 25 22:53:09 why have a screen protectors it is not like you are going to get an std from it Aug 25 22:53:11 their even being discounted Aug 25 22:53:15 1st touchpad should get here tomorrow. Aug 25 22:53:16 woot Aug 25 22:53:22 and if you let it try it is your screen protector. Aug 25 22:55:35 I am sitting on 7 touchpads..why are they not on eBay right now Aug 25 22:55:55 And why are you using them as a chair? Aug 25 22:55:56 cuz your sitting on them Aug 25 22:56:00 they are gonna break Aug 25 22:56:01 housepoo2: because u gotta sell me one first :P Aug 25 22:56:06 housepoo2: you need to offer them to the devs that do not have any make 20 on each but I think they should have first crack Aug 25 22:56:27 get this android thing faster Aug 25 22:57:25 <^_^_^> what is android? Aug 25 22:59:33 Omg =_= Aug 25 22:59:40 I already forsee more drama in the future. Aug 25 22:59:49 /msg NickServ identify reddeer Aug 25 22:59:56 Huh... Aug 25 23:00:01 oops? Aug 25 23:00:02 ghost me Aug 25 23:00:06 idc Aug 25 23:01:14 Framework: no kidding ;) Aug 25 23:02:37 ;-) Aug 25 23:03:06 whats wrong now framework Aug 25 23:04:10 touchpad runs well at 1.7''' Aug 25 23:04:31 <^_^_^> opps Aug 25 23:04:34 <^_^_^> did i just do that? Aug 25 23:04:35 <^_^_^> >:D Aug 25 23:04:37 but page loads are slow even with adblocker Aug 25 23:05:19 <^_^_^> kr9: might want to change that Aug 25 23:05:21 <^_^_^> haha Aug 25 23:07:27 guys, im thinking about trolling craigslist Aug 25 23:07:39 go for it let me see the post Aug 25 23:07:50 when did this thing start.. already 364 people in here ?? Aug 25 23:07:56 heres a preview Aug 25 23:07:59 arelas what do you mean? Aug 25 23:08:13 Will trade 1x 32GB HP Touchpad new in box for a white unicorn with a rainbow main. Must have all papers and be in excellent health. Ability trade vomit happiness a plus. Aug 25 23:08:20 mane rather Aug 25 23:08:58 hey everybody Aug 25 23:09:27 1 hour and 45 minutes on the phone trying to get through to hp support Aug 25 23:09:29 fun fun Aug 25 23:09:38 rwest for what?! Aug 25 23:09:55 I just wanna know order status since the page is fucked for my order Aug 25 23:10:06 explain? Aug 25 23:10:14 Ship date Aug 24, 2011 Aug 25 23:10:14 Estimated delivery Aug 26, 2011 Aug 25 23:10:16 :D Aug 25 23:10:24 is there a dev available that I can talk to Aug 25 23:10:51 I get a text error message when I click the link saying You suck can load order status Aug 25 23:11:02 any one ordered on costcentral? Aug 25 23:11:05 something along those lines Aug 25 23:11:25 I would tell you the message but order status page wont let me login heh Aug 25 23:11:47 hi Aug 25 23:11:50 rwrest they are sending you one free for that error Aug 25 23:12:00 Unable to load order data from vista? Aug 25 23:12:14 <[koss]> hah i got a ream of paper from HP today Aug 25 23:12:16 <[koss]> woo freakin hoo Aug 25 23:12:48 want to see the room go quiet Aug 25 23:13:17 better idea who wants to troll. Aug 25 23:13:36 tolymatev: i have Aug 25 23:13:47 set up a site to buy the touchpad say there is one in stock. but have it come back insufficient funds. post on reddit Aug 25 23:14:02 Crix- any news?? on ur order? Aug 25 23:14:03 haha Aug 25 23:14:09 not a word Aug 25 23:14:12 too much work imo Aug 25 23:14:31 order time in EST? Aug 25 23:14:58 i ordered at 6:43 Aug 25 23:14:59 it would be fun though. hell all the cc data you would have. names addys exp, cvs numbers Aug 25 23:15:14 Crix- http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3226872 Aug 25 23:15:19 theres a list Aug 25 23:15:30 i know Aug 25 23:15:40 oh ur on there too Aug 25 23:15:44 when did you order? Aug 25 23:15:58 i ordered @ 6:09 i think, i dunno if gmail is EST Aug 25 23:16:08 and i don't know where to change it Aug 25 23:16:19 ive been folowing that post for 2 days Aug 25 23:16:29 not a whole lot of orders get thru Aug 25 23:17:02 google checkout for you? i did. Aug 25 23:17:08 yes Aug 25 23:17:08 i'm not listed in that list Aug 25 23:17:13 google checkout Aug 25 23:17:20 you want me to add you Aug 25 23:17:42 i had pending charge on my card not anymore Aug 25 23:18:19 06:43 PM - 524,6xx tolymatev (1x16GB, No Tracking Info) Aug 25 23:18:34 theres my order number Aug 25 23:19:37 webOS browser has me praying for tabs support... Aug 25 23:19:48 tabs would be nice Aug 25 23:19:53 just downloaded advanced browser from app store Aug 25 23:20:02 it has tabs, booksmarks, startpage.. Aug 25 23:20:03 anyone wants to sell a touchpad ??? Aug 25 23:20:10 http://goodereader.com/blog/tablet-slates/hp-touchpad-available-at-select-bestbuy-locations-this-saturday/ Aug 25 23:20:36 kozmoh8 yep. all of my local BB's will have them sat Aug 25 23:20:37 :) Aug 25 23:20:57 take your favorite blanket Aug 25 23:20:58 and stock them Aug 25 23:21:13 * LordNibbler poke krylon360 Aug 25 23:21:14 im going to Aug 25 23:21:15 lol Aug 25 23:21:19 :) Aug 25 23:21:20 I know you krylon360 Aug 25 23:21:25 TW Aug 25 23:21:57 the one near me is going to have 8, the one about 5 miles from me will have 14, the one 5 mi in the other direction will have 18 :) Aug 25 23:22:02 sup Digital_Warrior Aug 25 23:22:09 so good news on that system dump :) Aug 25 23:24:22 is there a google music client for webos? Aug 25 23:24:35 nope just the webtop app Aug 25 23:24:40 ): Aug 25 23:24:47 its hard to use on the tp Aug 25 23:24:53 yeah, but it works..... sorta Aug 25 23:25:02 vinylfreak89, could you please op me for a minute Aug 25 23:25:39 does anyone know how to use facebook chat in webOS? I saw something about a patch and can't get any more info on it Aug 25 23:31:40 just got word form Aug 25 23:31:44 Best Buy Aug 25 23:31:52 ALL Remaining Touchpads are going back to HP Aug 25 23:32:01 * tolymatev wants voice :) Aug 25 23:32:12 how are there any touchpads left ffs? Aug 25 23:32:15 Supari: proof please Aug 25 23:32:24 Supari so hp will sell more touchpads Aug 25 23:32:43 prob tolymatev Aug 25 23:32:45 Supari, are you reading the news from last week? lol Aug 25 23:32:50 lol Aug 25 23:32:57 i cant fuckin wait Aug 25 23:33:09 HP says that they have more touchpads in their warehouses that they plan on selling soon Aug 25 23:33:15 HP Home, not SMB Aug 25 23:33:17 ill deff get one even if my costcentral order goes thrue Aug 25 23:33:19 lol.... supari, ive heard from sources that bestbuy cannot send them back because HP wont refund. so they figure they might as well take less of a loss Aug 25 23:33:32 tampa is getting a few hundred i believe Aug 25 23:33:39 HP has already comped all the Bestbuy Aug 25 23:33:42 they are not losing anything Aug 25 23:34:15 hmm I heard that HP will not take them back cause there are android dev tablets in the ones best buy got and HP does not want them back and want android on the tablets Aug 25 23:34:38 hp was gonna pay 100m to best buy as penatly because they only sold 10% stock before sale this was a way to cut lossed make hte supplier happy and get a buzz Aug 25 23:34:39 hp wants to use others resources (best buy etc...) to move the remaining touchpads. it makes no sense at all to send them back Aug 25 23:35:38 No new orders can be taken for this Product at this time. No change expected to that position before 31st August Aug 25 23:35:44 eurostore Palm Aug 25 23:35:48 if i wasnt going on a cruise sunday i would pick another up and send it at cost to someone who cant get one Aug 25 23:37:12 i want to make something clear folks Aug 25 23:37:23 the goal of touchdroid is not to gain money or bountys Aug 25 23:37:36 by releasing stuff that could possibly harm your device Aug 25 23:37:44 today we release images Aug 25 23:37:50 images i helped get Aug 25 23:37:59 images i do not approve been use in any Aug 25 23:38:00 release Aug 25 23:38:19 they are not Aug 25 23:38:23 THEY ARE NOT Aug 25 23:38:39 READY FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION Aug 25 23:39:00 as one the persons who got those images Aug 25 23:39:03 i am disgusted Aug 25 23:39:26 by the fact some one thinks they can come and take work Aug 25 23:39:30 and release this as their own Aug 25 23:39:42 the iminent releaese of this images are bad Aug 25 23:39:49 you could mount this images Aug 25 23:40:03 but he still be missing 14 Aug 25 23:40:09 and who knows what that img does Aug 25 23:40:11 my point is Aug 25 23:40:16 this is not for distribution Aug 25 23:40:27 theres a reason why android wasnt in all those tp Aug 25 23:40:32 is because it wasnt redy Aug 25 23:40:36 yet webos was Aug 25 23:40:39 anyways Aug 25 23:40:43 short story Aug 25 23:40:55 some dumbass is going to release something non functional Aug 25 23:40:57 it will boot Aug 25 23:41:03 it will look pretty Aug 25 23:41:06 but is going to be pold Aug 25 23:41:09 and useless Aug 25 23:41:23 the goals of touchdroid is to release something that works Aug 25 23:41:26 functional Aug 25 23:41:29 up todate Aug 25 23:41:48 so you feel free to dable on something that could harm your system Aug 25 23:41:51 have anice day Aug 25 23:42:00 i love you Aug 25 23:42:01 THEY ARE NOT Aug 25 23:42:02 first Aug 25 23:42:05 shit Aug 25 23:42:07 Liam__ fail Aug 25 23:42:14 i am hyperion Aug 25 23:42:17 not liam Aug 25 23:42:17 ): Aug 25 23:42:38 samcripp|work you need to learn engrish, and learn how to type a full sentence before you hit the send button.... Aug 25 23:42:42 god damnit that was annoying Aug 25 23:42:52 What the fuck Aug 25 23:42:53 it was like a nerd rage alert Aug 25 23:43:14 I didn't hear the warning sound go off though Aug 25 23:43:21 wow reallyu Aug 25 23:43:22 lolll Aug 25 23:43:29 so, now we get to sit back and see who this lamer is Aug 25 23:43:35 hey krylon360 did you grab that file Aug 25 23:43:52 suparage Aug 25 23:43:55 oh i cna tal know? Aug 25 23:43:59 that's right, I said lamer...im old school Aug 25 23:43:59 arelas: you REALLY don't know who it is? Aug 25 23:44:03 all this android/touchpad/nerdtosterone drama is slowly making me rethink my care in any project :| Aug 25 23:44:09 i've been away Aug 25 23:44:15 Lol Aug 25 23:44:19 agreed famine Aug 25 23:44:19 <[koss]> man that was a spaz Aug 25 23:44:26 no drama Aug 25 23:44:29 got toldk Aug 25 23:44:32 Wasn't the guy named on Endgadget? Aug 25 23:44:34 got told* Aug 25 23:44:37 well i feel like i just got scolded in a dev channel. Aug 25 23:44:39 famine: please stick with it. the end will be worth it. Aug 25 23:44:39 samcripp|work: BTW, from the "Production Test Tool" app on that image, it's pretty obvious what the image is and where it came from ... Aug 25 23:44:40 farchord, pm me Aug 25 23:44:59 <[koss]> i like how the HP Touchpads didnt come with android because the android image wasnt fully functional Aug 25 23:45:03 <[koss]> lol Aug 25 23:45:31 [koss]: i like how you guys have no idea at all about what that image is, when the answer is sticking out in plain view Aug 25 23:45:31 android Aug 25 23:45:35 well... Aug 25 23:45:36 honestly Aug 25 23:45:38 is not fully fucntional Aug 25 23:45:38 I remember back in the day when iPhone jailbreaking devs were mature heheheheheeheee Aug 25 23:45:47 now that you mention it Aug 25 23:46:02 <[koss]> its some sort of diag image Aug 25 23:46:03 what is not fully functional? Aug 25 23:46:09 it would have been smart of HP to re-release the touchpad as an android device and sell it for like $300 Aug 25 23:46:13 [koss]: "Production Test Tool" Aug 25 23:46:17 they wouldn't lose nearly as much money Aug 25 23:46:18 You guys are such drama queens. Aug 25 23:46:19 the image is not for release Aug 25 23:46:21 is beta Aug 25 23:46:23 and they'd still sell out everything Aug 25 23:46:27 we should make a Wiki about the images, what works, what doesnt Aug 25 23:46:31 <[koss]> does anyone contest that?? Aug 25 23:46:32 rwhitby: are you webos-internals guys participating in touchdroid dev? Aug 25 23:46:46 <[koss]> it's a start, that's at it is Aug 25 23:46:46 O_O Aug 25 23:46:48 <[koss]> a running start Aug 25 23:46:48 that explains it Aug 25 23:46:49 So much for an open source community! Aug 25 23:46:51 <[koss]> vs starting from scratch Aug 25 23:47:07 Parallax: since I wish to be able to enter and leave the US at will, I cannot be part of something which is redistributing HP and Qualcomm proprietary IP Aug 25 23:47:08 every man for himself Aug 25 23:47:16 but i mean whats wrong? 50% of android dev is testing, alpha, beta, RCxxxxxxxx i dont get why this is different Aug 25 23:47:19 hp want to get out of hardware and focus on software, so making android tablets is the opposite of that Aug 25 23:47:23 wants Aug 25 23:47:41 altimax98_, i guess there wasn't enough of a disclaimer Aug 25 23:47:49 IF PEOPLE WANT TO FUCK THIER SHIT UP, WHO CARES? THATS THEIR CHOICE. Aug 25 23:48:01 exactly evullhotdog Aug 25 23:48:13 <[koss]> someone will release a working rom, then everyone else will have to either stfu or make a better one Aug 25 23:48:13 Dont play the government in this Aug 25 23:48:13 Maybe there should have been big 72pt red font at the top of the page Aug 25 23:48:15 fucking stupid Aug 25 23:48:16 <[koss]> then this drama will be over Aug 25 23:48:18 I was going to say that, since they'll put up their broken tablets for $50 on ebay Aug 25 23:48:19 THIS WILL FUCK YOUR SHIT UP. IT BARELY WORKS. KTHXBAI Aug 25 23:48:31 the drama is over now Aug 25 23:48:43 mute this whole room a few hours Aug 25 23:48:48 this room is for dev disscussion Aug 25 23:49:01 i made clear where i stand on someone using my work Aug 25 23:49:04 enough said Aug 25 23:55:01 Thanks, mr :) Aug 25 23:55:22 MrMuffin, might wanna take a look at #touchpad too mate Aug 25 23:55:41 wow. Aug 25 23:56:22 Framework, sup? Aug 25 23:56:39 Nothing, just hate the world like usual :PP Aug 25 23:57:03 Framework, I blame..... bah, I blame..... meh, nevermind, too bored to pick a target. Aug 25 23:57:12 pople want to act like children then treat them like such Aug 25 23:57:13 timeout Aug 25 23:59:12 im not even in the team and people are involving me in drama Aug 25 23:59:39 samcripp|work, you're an op. You're in the team. Aug 25 23:59:53 Sneaky, eh? XD Aug 25 23:59:56 Condense the nonsense Aug 26 00:00:01 :) Aug 26 00:00:43 arelas: To quote what I often tell myself when I watch people spamming, "I'd prefer to eat the canned kind than watching that shit...." Aug 26 00:00:58 And canned SPAM is disgusting Aug 26 00:03:03 sup bitches Aug 26 00:03:16 soup? where? Aug 26 00:04:31 ProTekk, everyone is in timeout Aug 26 00:04:38 im not part of teams guys Aug 26 00:04:41 arelas, i heard Aug 26 00:04:42 i only help Aug 26 00:04:48 so please understand this Aug 26 00:04:50 neither me Aug 26 00:04:52 or eval Aug 26 00:04:54 grounded for fightin :P Aug 26 00:04:59 we just like deving Aug 26 00:05:04 just was on the phone with b16 Aug 26 00:05:07 funny shit guys Aug 26 00:05:10 like deving angels of boredon Aug 26 00:05:12 we get bore Aug 26 00:05:17 we go find something to dev Aug 26 00:05:30 understood man and glad you are helping Aug 26 00:05:45 indeed. The more the merrier. Aug 26 00:06:34 anyways Aug 26 00:06:59 <^_^_^> heh Aug 26 00:07:01 thank god we can talk agin Aug 26 00:07:06 <^_^_^> lol DiGi_ Aug 26 00:07:11 no more fucking drama Aug 26 00:07:15 next ahit is bans Aug 26 00:07:21 <^_^_^> hammer! Aug 26 00:07:26 Ban hammer? Aug 26 00:07:53 omg unmute now? Aug 26 00:07:56 yay Aug 26 00:08:08 Ban stick?! Aug 26 00:08:15 * farchord equips his "Nail-on-a-wooden-plank" +1. Aug 26 00:08:20 ok I really think that there needs to be a fan room and a dev room and don't say #touchpad. there needs to be a #dev-touchdroid room where it is pwd so that all the devs have access and it will be all nice and what not and the devs can come here with upda Aug 26 00:08:20 tes etc. Aug 26 00:08:22 koush, what's up? Aug 26 00:08:45 Digital_Warrior, they already have a channel Aug 26 00:08:50 hehe im 1/2 tempted to set up a teaspeak or vent server for the dev to all talk on Aug 26 00:08:52 I'm going to be honest here dude, don't take this the wrong way, but doing stuff like +m on the channel isn't productive. Acting like a kid with his new ban hammer toy isn't getting people anywhere. Now on the other hand talking non-dev in a dev channel isn't produtive either, this should be strictly for dev and those involved in dev, everyone else needs to move to a non-dev channel Aug 26 00:08:54 * Digital_Warrior pulls wand out and casts +24 to ban stick Aug 26 00:08:56 haha Aug 26 00:09:00 say koush wahts up, and he parts Aug 26 00:09:05 nice job guy Aug 26 00:09:13 lmfao Aug 26 00:09:13 <3 Aug 26 00:09:25 xaios: ban hamma?! Aug 26 00:09:31 @devs would you be interested in a vent or teamspeak server if i can get one arranged for you? Aug 26 00:09:42 so this is not a dev channel then if the devs have there own room Aug 26 00:09:58 stop all this drama Aug 26 00:10:07 try #touchdouche Aug 26 00:10:08 why dont the devs just make a room with a password? Aug 26 00:10:10 i honestly think it would be a good idea to have a seperate channel for actual dev speak Aug 26 00:10:10 <^_^_^> lol. you women. Aug 26 00:10:15 or +i Aug 26 00:10:21 neer2005, they already have one :) Aug 26 00:10:23 guys...1 more complaint...seriously. Aug 26 00:10:24 and have a bot that the devs can PM to have it invite them :p Aug 26 00:10:34 farchord: so then whats all the commotion about? Aug 26 00:10:36 xust-droid2: or just set +I Aug 26 00:10:39 I think devs should have a separate channel Aug 26 00:10:42 that's what I just said Aug 26 00:10:43 xust-droid2: works the same Aug 26 00:10:46 invite only lol Aug 26 00:10:51 Theres a difference between devs and fans Aug 26 00:10:52 xust-droid2: no, you said +i Aug 26 00:10:56 fans enjoy life Aug 26 00:10:57 devs dont Aug 26 00:10:59 that is invite only Aug 26 00:11:03 neer2005, this channel is supposed to be a civilized chat about the progress we are doing and general TP chat Aug 26 00:11:12 xust-droid2: +I is a mode on users to make it where they don't need inviting Aug 26 00:11:22 farchord: oh, not exaclty civilized lol Aug 26 00:11:30 farchord people keep saying that but dont do anything to back it up, all bark, no bite. Aug 26 00:11:36 neer2005, that is our current problem, indeed. Aug 26 00:11:42 you could add them to chanservs access list, then they can simply join the channel since they'd be ops or so on Aug 26 00:11:47 not sure how this network operates Aug 26 00:11:59 standard nick and chanserv Aug 26 00:12:00 lets talk about touchdroid progress Aug 26 00:12:03 xust-droid2: +I accomplishes that Aug 26 00:12:04 where are we Aug 26 00:12:09 k Aug 26 00:12:11 CoverUps OH WAIT, there is none. Aug 26 00:12:17 so who has sand in their vaginas tonight? Aug 26 00:12:25 lol Aug 26 00:12:26 i have sand in my anus Aug 26 00:12:31 it only feels weird when i fart Aug 26 00:12:32 ProTekk, lol Aug 26 00:12:41 ProTekk: not I, just finished douching Aug 26 00:12:51 Dude, i have Irene's fucking strapon in my asshole, thats what I have. Aug 26 00:13:17 do you use grape or strawberry douch? i prefer grape Aug 26 00:13:26 ...they have flavors? Aug 26 00:13:28 Vince: watching Chopped? Aug 26 00:13:34 sigh, sorry wrong window Aug 26 00:13:35 lol Aug 26 00:13:46 Wulfegang: on Food network? Aug 26 00:13:58 Yar Aug 26 00:14:00 not flavors, scents Aug 26 00:14:03 oh shit! Aug 26 00:14:24 I prefer 97 octane Aug 26 00:14:31 lol I dont have cable, I have the internet, it's better :) Aug 26 00:14:47 I prefer thermite Aug 26 00:14:57 in all seriousness where do we currently stand? Booting an android kernal or do they actually have the full blown OS running? Aug 26 00:15:14 i prefer 86 octane the cheap shit Aug 26 00:15:37 i know they dumped from one running android but im curious where devs stand loading it on a webos touchpad Aug 26 00:15:50 * frustrated not rushing, purely curious Aug 26 00:15:57 i'm just playing catchup, been away today. im surprised as hell that shit wasn't fake Aug 26 00:15:59 frustrated they have full blown android, they just wont release. Aug 26 00:16:34 i 50% believe you evulhotdog but i would like to hear it from someone with an @ before their nic Aug 26 00:16:48 <^_^_^> lmfao rhcp has already banned like 5 people Aug 26 00:16:57 <^_^_^> frustrated: it's in the topic Aug 26 00:17:01 <^_^_^> /topic #touchdroid Aug 26 00:17:03 frustrated unfortunately @ doesnt mean shit -_- Aug 26 00:17:04 <^_^_^> type that Aug 26 00:17:08 frustrated, I'm not a dev, so take what im saying with a grain of salt, but the reason why having an image speeds things up, is instead of using an unreliable dev build of Android to the public, they are using the images to take the drivers and make a decent release with a clean copy of Android. Aug 26 00:17:24 ^ lololol Aug 26 00:17:29 They dont want to just release it all half-baked. Aug 26 00:17:38 id take it RAW Aug 26 00:17:39 jk Aug 26 00:17:40 They want to do a GOOD job at releasing this thing Aug 26 00:17:47 that sounds fair to me, i was just curious Aug 26 00:17:54 farchord they can release it now Aug 26 00:17:58 people see how shitty it is Aug 26 00:18:01 fix it up Aug 26 00:18:03 ?????? Aug 26 00:18:09 people love them for making it good Aug 26 00:18:11 profit Aug 26 00:18:13 evulhotdog, that is not the proper way of doing things. Aug 26 00:18:23 hehe i say release what they have and lie saying its final Aug 26 00:18:31 so i can buy them off people at cost that jump ship Aug 26 00:18:38 :) Aug 26 00:18:55 but thats what makes android, android Aug 26 00:19:04 its a dev community, if people want to fuck their shit up, they will do it farchord, its like the government telling you not to commit suicide, or any other things they dont allow. Aug 26 00:19:14 exactly Aug 26 00:19:18 Governmental suicide? Aug 26 00:19:24 evulhotdog, Agreed! But it wont be OUR fault. Aug 26 00:19:24 Theres a nice topic of discussion Aug 26 00:19:32 We will be releasing something that will be of quality Aug 26 00:19:36 farchord what does a disclaimer do?? Aug 26 00:19:44 just curious. Aug 26 00:19:47 how is this conversation about deving Aug 26 00:19:47 android is built from people fucking things up, and then learning from that... its how development gets done Aug 26 00:20:03 thts not how development hget done Aug 26 00:20:08 thats how people break shit Aug 26 00:20:13 indeed Aug 26 00:20:17 * ^_^_^ likes to break shit Aug 26 00:20:19 youre right, its trial and error samcripp|work -_- Aug 26 00:20:21 thats not development Aug 26 00:20:24 either way its broken until you fix it Aug 26 00:20:31 That is not development Aug 26 00:20:34 yes Aug 26 00:20:35 breaking shit is how ive learned what little i know Aug 26 00:20:41 but you dont release the broken stuff Aug 26 00:20:44 Development is working on something until it's working and proper for release. Aug 26 00:20:50 i know what to and not to do now because ive bricked my OG droid about 4 times Aug 26 00:20:56 serisouly Aug 26 00:21:04 how is this a conversation about development Aug 26 00:21:10 this channel is about development Aug 26 00:21:15 not about brokenb builts Aug 26 00:21:17 idk, but youre talking about it too, so.... Aug 26 00:21:18 bricking happens during dev Aug 26 00:21:25 Not really, it's about #touchdroid from what I gander Aug 26 00:21:32 @farchord: Actually Development is working on something until its proper for testing, QA is the only one that can sign off for release, at least that is how we run things. Aug 26 00:21:49 lmao Aug 26 00:21:53 sign off, on the internet Aug 26 00:22:00 xaios, well, yeah.... but in most people's minds, development is until release Aug 26 00:22:03 rofl Aug 26 00:22:04 which means nothing Aug 26 00:22:14 development never stops Aug 26 00:22:15 when the time comes Aug 26 00:22:19 well. i have seen instances where something was released and crashed something important (geohot's JB on ipod that crashed wifi) and then a bunch of people whine, and start tossing the developed under the buss and saying he/they dont know what they are doing and blaming them etc. its easier to just wait for the devs to get all the kinds out and have a quality product. Aug 26 00:22:21 +1 altimax98_ Aug 26 00:22:25 im sure a group of folks will be selected for alpha Aug 26 00:22:30 thats how you develop Aug 26 00:22:34 not by bricking everyones shit Aug 26 00:22:36 sersly Aug 26 00:22:45 if you want your shit brick plwase leave this room Aug 26 00:22:54 @samcripp Im game for alpha Aug 26 00:22:57 sign me up Aug 26 00:23:03 i dont mind if it bricks Aug 26 00:23:04 @farchord: then obviously those people are not true developers, if they were they'd understand the development cycle is Design->Implementation->Testing->Rework->Retesting->QA Sign off->Release Aug 26 00:23:06 Shat a brick? Aug 26 00:23:29 samcripp|work I dont think you understand that people will still try shit, knowing that its shitty, knowing that it wont work. Aug 26 00:23:35 since what I have read that is nearly unbreakable. just like the vibrant I will take a stab at it. Aug 26 00:23:40 and i dont give a fuck Aug 26 00:23:45 here we are not about releasing shit Aug 26 00:23:45 xaios, lol development terms changed alot lately, just look at software staying beta, but being released to the public.....terms have been blurred alot lol Aug 26 00:23:51 here we dev stuff that is for release Aug 26 00:23:53 you want shit Aug 26 00:23:57 you are at the wrong place Aug 26 00:24:00 so please leave Aug 26 00:24:01 and 35 shits were given that day Aug 26 00:24:08 I never said I wanted shit Aug 26 00:24:21 as dev we do what we must Aug 26 00:24:24 im just saying give the responsibility to others instead of withholding it all yourself and being a 'big man' Aug 26 00:24:25 @farchord: I'm sorry but I come from a very structured company, those terms are still valid for teams that release quality software Aug 26 00:24:26 everything we find we release Aug 26 00:24:32 and everything we reaseearch Aug 26 00:24:34 we document Aug 26 00:24:38 xaios, and I respect that :) Aug 26 00:24:38 but i will not endorse Aug 26 00:24:40 having 'the power' Aug 26 00:24:42 the release of something Aug 26 00:24:48 that cpould brick your system Aug 26 00:25:02 okay so post it under a different name, call it a day Aug 26 00:25:06 xaios, terms are irrelevant in this specific situation anyway lol Aug 26 00:25:21 the work we did today is posted Aug 26 00:25:27 I have a dumb question: Is it possible to brick the TP even with something like webOS Doctor to restore it? Asking more for curiosity than anything. Sorry if it's not relevant in here. Aug 26 00:25:29 evulhotdog, dude, okay, comes down to this. Don't like what we do? Go away. Aug 26 00:25:48 xaios: thats the way they tech us to develop in school. im a 2nd year college student in CIS, and they drill that into your brain the first year. Aug 26 00:26:07 @farchord: If you want to attract real developers, IMHO, you really need to show that cycle, your project perked my interest but seems very disorganized for the amount of time I've spent idling in this channel Aug 26 00:26:15 evulhotdog: http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqbsniIzyi1qbbs8oo1_400.gif Aug 26 00:26:19 farchord lol. When did I say I dont like what youre doing? I commend all of the devs who wrote 1 line to one million lines of code all the same. Aug 26 00:26:23 time to get the ban hammer out..... Aug 26 00:26:28 @xSLAYERx: I can tell you that is how it is in the realy world from 8 years of development Aug 26 00:26:36 xaios, it only really got serious this morning man lol Aug 26 00:26:40 or was it yesterday Aug 26 00:26:46 anyway, it only really just got serious Aug 26 00:26:57 its been serios for a while Aug 26 00:27:14 these dumps really dont help as much as people think imo Aug 26 00:27:27 our goal is to build andriond from source Aug 26 00:27:31 not some modified dump Aug 26 00:27:34 Okay so go into your own private channel and dev away, and ignore this channel. Aug 26 00:27:50 @farchord: I understand that, and obviously you guys are going through some growing pains here, but the childish shit really needs to stop imho, I think you gusy need to take a stronger stance towards the amount of trolls that are being allowed in this channel Aug 26 00:28:02 evulhotdog: troll harder, you suck Aug 26 00:28:04 xaios, we are working on that Aug 26 00:28:10 Xavierdarkness I'm not trolling Aug 26 00:28:14 there's 2 actually 3 teams right now Aug 26 00:28:20 we're working on unification Aug 26 00:28:25 evulhotdog: you still suck Aug 26 00:28:26 bt it odesn't matter Aug 26 00:28:35 once real work is released Aug 26 00:28:50 you'll know who the devs on the team are Aug 26 00:28:54 til then its just wait and see Aug 26 00:29:00 Right, so dont publicly say you have something if you wont release it, plain and simple Aug 26 00:29:05 vinylfreak89: your nick seems familiar Aug 26 00:29:13 we dont have anything TO RELEASE evulhotdog Aug 26 00:29:16 i never said we did Aug 26 00:29:21 i said work was being done Aug 26 00:29:22 thats all Aug 26 00:29:26 when its ready to be released Aug 26 00:29:27 it will Aug 26 00:29:30 its not functioning yet Aug 26 00:29:38 sam go Aug 26 00:30:07 If you dont like the way we do things, just go away. If you have suggestions, we are happy to hear it. But if you have nothing nice to say just dont say anything at all. Aug 26 00:31:01 xavierdarkness i worked with teamandirc in the eris days, and have contributed to some side projects for incredible and thunderbolt Aug 26 00:31:45 yes i work with jcase Aug 26 00:32:28 now im going to unmute Aug 26 00:32:35 plese dont fly out of control Aug 26 00:32:41 wheeeeeeeeeeeee Aug 26 00:32:46 Too many self-entitled pricks out there. If you want an Android tablet, buy a Xoom or a TF. Aug 26 00:32:50 vinylfreak89, let's just stop +ming and start +bing Aug 26 00:32:57 * xust-droid2 hides Aug 26 00:32:58 im not the one who se tthe +m Aug 26 00:32:58 Or +q Aug 26 00:32:58 <^_^_^> +b ^_^_^ please. he's a fag Aug 26 00:33:00 what farchord Aug 26 00:33:03 lolz Aug 26 00:33:11 +q works just as well Aug 26 00:33:12 er, what farchord said Aug 26 00:33:14 :P Aug 26 00:33:16 @farchord: I would love to give suggestions, but if you guys are going to +m the channel everytime without offering some way to +v its pointless Aug 26 00:33:25 y0y0y0 Aug 26 00:33:26 muting the whole channel because of 1 dumbass is the wrong way to go about doing things Aug 26 00:33:31 I don't even understand what the "drama" is. lol Aug 26 00:33:37 xaios, we'll stop +ming, dont think it's the right way anyway Aug 26 00:33:41 xust-droid2 you dont need to Aug 26 00:33:49 well i'd like to offer input Aug 26 00:33:49 Parallax: that's when you +q the "dumbass" Aug 26 00:33:55 so what devs dont have devices? Aug 26 00:34:01 I still dont Aug 26 00:34:04 all of the above Aug 26 00:34:07 I should be getting mine tomorrow. Aug 26 00:34:18 better question is, what devs DO have devices? Aug 26 00:34:27 just +q the person Aug 26 00:34:27 help keep any mess organized, make sure everyone is informed of what's going on, so you don't get angry people demanding the android image so they can attempt to flash their touchpads Aug 26 00:34:27 ditto, but im not a important cause im not a dev :D Aug 26 00:34:27 ok what devs do not have a device on order Aug 26 00:34:30 @farchord: You guys need to do what other projects of this nature do, you need to have a moderated channel with a secondary channel for a place to request +v, otherwise you end up with trolls as you have here Aug 26 00:34:35 well if you dont get one tomorrow, shoot me a pm on freenode Aug 26 00:34:40 Ok : Aug 26 00:34:42 :)* Aug 26 00:34:43 I will Aug 26 00:34:52 I just hope I dont have the evacuate the house Aug 26 00:34:53 =/ Aug 26 00:34:59 @farchord: +b does you no good, as the trolls will simply continue to enter and find nice ways around your +b Aug 26 00:35:00 it's still impossible get one I'm guessing Aug 26 00:35:02 damn it Aug 26 00:35:02 lol you live on east coast? Aug 26 00:35:04 xaios, we have a second channel, #touchpad, but it's lacking moderation, MrMuffin needs to fix it, hes chan owner on chanserv =) Aug 26 00:35:06 you guys have extra touchpads for devs? Aug 26 00:35:12 I think all this channel would be good for would be for posting milestones and twitter links in the topic, using your own private channel for the devs. Aug 26 00:35:25 because there's no moderation, abandon it :x Aug 26 00:35:26 eyeballer i should get 2 tomorrow or monday Aug 26 00:35:30 and i got one at BB today Aug 26 00:35:32 i only need 2 Aug 26 00:35:37 one for me and one for my sick g'ma Aug 26 00:35:40 St0ned: in the store? Aug 26 00:35:41 farchord: this should be the main chan, and then a sep dev chan, simple. nobody knows about #touchpad so it's never gonna get used unless they come through here first =/ Aug 26 00:35:44 parallax yea Aug 26 00:35:52 did they restock or something? Aug 26 00:35:52 well i had to camp out from 7-10 Aug 26 00:35:54 you already have the users here...devs could easily move to another private channel. Aug 26 00:35:54 ah Aug 26 00:35:58 farchord this is more of a community channel, touchpad really has nothing to do with you guys, and I do believe you guys need a private dev channel if you dont have one already.. Aug 26 00:35:58 I'm too lazy to do that Aug 26 00:36:00 yea the store by my work got 70 last night Aug 26 00:36:05 sold 20 and saved 50 for this morning Aug 26 00:36:12 was there a huge line? Aug 26 00:36:16 eyeballer, its being used, alot of people in there. Aug 26 00:36:17 yup Aug 26 00:36:25 farchord: yeah but all those people came through here first Aug 26 00:36:26 about 80 people by 10 am Aug 26 00:36:30 ouch Aug 26 00:36:30 then got directed there Aug 26 00:36:34 i agree with eyeballer and evulhotdog. tons of people in your "private" dev channel?! Aug 26 00:36:34 eyeballer, thats the point Aug 26 00:36:43 so it's a never ending job to keep directing people Aug 26 00:36:56 it is not....and enough of this, please. Aug 26 00:37:00 ok? Aug 26 00:37:08 im asking nicely. Aug 26 00:37:11 lets talk about the touchpad! Aug 26 00:37:13 @farchord: I disagree with the private dev channel, if you want to be 'transparent' you need to maintain a moderated channel where devs are given +v, this allows lurkers and idlers to view progress from verified devs while avoiding the noise Aug 26 00:37:15 indeed. Aug 26 00:37:19 eyeballer: just +I the dev and use the clear users command. Channel forward unauthorized users here Aug 26 00:37:19 I got mine today Aug 26 00:37:31 * eyeballer shrugs Aug 26 00:37:31 Solves pretty much all problems Aug 26 00:37:36 grats arelas Aug 26 00:37:52 xaios but see, they need a private dev channel because they wont release links to their 'private' repos and whatnot., Aug 26 00:37:56 but that would piss many off. I think just keeping the topic of this place updated, making it a chat channel would be best, since this is where most of the users are. Aug 26 00:38:09 it'll eventually die down some, hopefully :P Aug 26 00:38:22 eyeballer: Br0, #touchdouche is moar active Aug 26 00:38:41 Decad3nce, dont link this here. Aug 26 00:38:42 Few commands and you'll cut down on a lot of trolls Aug 26 00:38:47 <^_^_^> lol Decad3nce Aug 26 00:38:50 im not sure i want to touch a douche -_- Aug 26 00:38:59 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcat17006&type=page&skuId=2842056&searchpage=true&_requestid=134782 Aug 26 00:39:03 don't worry, it's unused. Aug 26 00:39:04 <^_^_^> Xavierdarkness: you just want everyone to be booted Aug 26 00:39:05 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcat17006&type=page&skuId=2842092&searchpage=true&_requestid=134774 Aug 26 00:39:07 use those Aug 26 00:39:07 touch my douche Aug 26 00:39:13 Would need to say in topic you must be registered to speak though Aug 26 00:39:13 check tonight at midnight and in the morning Aug 26 00:39:20 if a store says "in stores only" Aug 26 00:39:25 get to the store by 7 am Aug 26 00:39:32 farchord: meh Aug 26 00:39:43 ^_^_^: no, I know enough commands to get this shit properly moderated with minimal effort Aug 26 00:39:47 lol 7 people in #touchdouche Aug 26 00:39:55  /mode +r Aug 26 00:40:02 1 command will solve most trolling issues Aug 26 00:40:20 PuffTheMagic: +q $~a Aug 26 00:40:40 Unregistered users can join, but not speak Aug 26 00:40:45 just set up wirc Aug 26 00:40:46 +b *!*@*.* ? Aug 26 00:40:53 <^_^_^> xust-droid2: i like that one Aug 26 00:41:34 So I bought wieners at Sheetz today Aug 26 00:41:38 sounds like a good idea to me Aug 26 00:41:42 I know right? Aug 26 00:41:44 I love wieners Aug 26 00:41:49 lol Aug 26 00:41:56 :P Aug 26 00:42:03 +q $a:nick will quiet a users account name Aug 26 00:42:12 I like fancy modes ^_^ Aug 26 00:42:17 [20:38:07] [evulhotdog] I love wieners <---im saving this Aug 26 00:42:17 ehhh Aug 26 00:42:28 so what do i do with my tp first? Aug 26 00:42:30 arelas i mean its kinda assumed since my name is evulhotdog Aug 26 00:42:36 wheres that enhancements tutorial Aug 26 00:42:39 to make it faster and such Aug 26 00:42:50 yeah, mo evil mo better Aug 26 00:43:00 or evul in your case Aug 26 00:43:21 so, what does everyone think so far who has them Aug 26 00:43:42 <^_^_^> garbage. Aug 26 00:43:45 arelas, it's nice, but ya, it's very heavy. Aug 26 00:43:47 <^_^_^> is what i tihnk Aug 26 00:43:54 <^_^_^> since i couldn't get one from the ghetto ass walmart Aug 26 00:44:13 lol heavy = built good :) Aug 26 00:44:22 I love mine. Smooth, great browser, and multitasking is awesome. Aug 26 00:44:24 lol well it looks like the dump is being copied Aug 26 00:44:25 <^_^_^> heavy = makes louder thud when i drop it Aug 26 00:44:26 built real well... i dont notice the weight Aug 26 00:44:35 and the browser is the best bar non Aug 26 00:44:37 none Aug 26 00:44:38 great speakers :) Aug 26 00:44:40 trsohmers Its all good. Mind if I mirror it to demonoid.me? or usenet? Aug 26 00:44:42 DO WANT: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA04D01D3796&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-cables-_-na-_-na&PID=1225267&SID=u1444400t3232048f9fp0dd0c0s701&AID=10440897 Aug 26 00:44:46 this platform had a lot of potential. I hate that hp is burying it Aug 26 00:44:50 It's great for porn Aug 26 00:44:57 So is that lense ;) Aug 26 00:45:19 I don't think that's going to fit on the TP Aug 26 00:45:21 a built in comics reader would be nice Aug 26 00:45:21 Digital_Warrior, let them... Aug 26 00:45:31 the only decent one on the store is shit Aug 26 00:45:37 arelas did you see the crazy shit they put on the iphone Aug 26 00:46:12 no I haven't Aug 26 00:46:28 huge telephoto lens for it Aug 26 00:46:34 http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&nord=1&q=lense+for+iphone&gs_upl=&qscrl=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1554&bih=886&ion=1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=6771195057455033228&sa=X&ei=CexWTr7PA-KRsAK6wM2QDA&ved=0CEIQ8gIwBQ Aug 26 00:46:50 http://photojojo.com/store/awesomeness/iphone-telephoto-lens/ Aug 26 00:47:19 well ain't this a bitch Aug 26 00:47:28 Digital_Warrior O.o Aug 26 00:47:44 error compiling kernel Aug 26 00:48:24 Yep, touchpad will be arriving tomorrow Aug 26 00:48:29 its in Grove City now :D Aug 26 00:48:53 Grovey. Aug 26 00:49:07 And the BB Pearl that I got for 10$ is coming in too :D Aug 26 00:49:22 Isnt that berry cool? Aug 26 00:49:27 LOL -_- Aug 26 00:50:15 time to play warhammer 40k space marine demo! Aug 26 00:51:31 shit I closed the window lol Aug 26 00:52:26 grove city, aint it a gangsta city in GTA4? Aug 26 00:52:55 anyone have problems updating Aug 26 00:53:17 it keeps saying unable to connect. try again later Aug 26 00:53:23 yeah stoned, just keep trying Aug 26 00:53:28 it will eventually work Aug 26 00:53:32 k Aug 26 00:54:34 Make sure you on charger as well, mine failed without it Aug 26 00:54:49 really? wtf? Aug 26 00:54:51 **are on, lol Aug 26 00:54:52 its fully charged Aug 26 00:55:13 mine was too, just went from 50% to 100% and said completed but never rebooted Aug 26 00:55:21 ok now the status bar is actually moving Aug 26 00:55:27 which is a good sign Aug 26 00:56:09 Some also said after it done unpacking unplug/replug charger to get prompt to reboot and install Aug 26 00:57:14 jeeze slow Aug 26 00:58:02 is there a terminal app for this thing? Aug 26 00:58:15 Nope. Not without rooting/preware. Aug 26 00:59:17 roadkill, hey man ^ Aug 26 01:01:36 feww hours with this thing... Aug 26 01:01:40 i love webos Aug 26 01:02:07 http://images.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/9578486.jpg Aug 26 01:03:50 webOS rules Aug 26 01:03:53 just needs more apps :( Aug 26 01:04:09 :/ Aug 26 01:04:20 at this point i'd rather webos than android Aug 26 01:04:31 webOS + android apps :D Aug 26 01:04:43 webOS is better than Android and on par with iOS imo Aug 26 01:04:50 google should buy web OS for patents Aug 26 01:04:51 and I've got tablets with all 3 OSes :D Aug 26 01:04:58 and implement some of the cool features Aug 26 01:04:59 into android Aug 26 01:05:12 i want a galaxy tab 10.1 Aug 26 01:05:13 because face it, hp just stick it in webOS's poopschute Aug 26 01:05:14 I like the webOS font for some reason Aug 26 01:05:17 hyperion: that's what I have Aug 26 01:05:21 it's super nice, get one Aug 26 01:06:33 St0ned, webOS isn't dead. Aug 26 01:07:07 the on ly thing that would keep it alive is hp opening the source Aug 26 01:07:08 with independent devs jumping ship it might as well be Aug 26 01:07:13 dead, that is Aug 26 01:07:30 parallax, where did you get your tab? Aug 26 01:07:42 Staples Aug 26 01:08:01 do you have the 32 or the 16? and how much was it o.O Aug 26 01:08:12 got the 16 Aug 26 01:08:15 * frustrated has 16gig and $99 Aug 26 01:08:20 499 Aug 26 01:08:29 ouch Aug 26 01:08:48 Lol Aug 26 01:08:48 <^_^_^> he can get refunded by hp though Aug 26 01:08:50 frustrated: we're not talking about the touchpad :) Aug 26 01:08:55 <^_^_^> o. Aug 26 01:09:11 I got my 32gb Touchpad from Walmart for 150 Aug 26 01:09:13 it was so frustrating to install 3.0.2 on my mom's touchpad. I had to use webos doctor Aug 26 01:09:17 i got a gtab for $199 from our vzw rep Aug 26 01:09:27 is that the 7 incher? Aug 26 01:09:36 the new one Aug 26 01:09:39 10 or something Aug 26 01:09:40 lol, the 7 inch one sucked... Aug 26 01:09:42 i already solit Aug 26 01:09:45 sold it Aug 26 01:09:48 <^_^_^> D:< Aug 26 01:09:56 then why did you tell us? Aug 26 01:09:56 <^_^_^> that's a great deal Aug 26 01:09:56 didn't you have to sign a contract to get it for $199 Aug 26 01:10:08 that's one of those "cool story bro" moments Aug 26 01:10:15 lets just say we are a >$30k a month accounts Aug 26 01:10:26 matthewsm: haha basically Aug 26 01:10:41 Ok, whats the purpose of you telling us? Aug 26 01:10:50 That you got a great deal on something? Aug 26 01:10:55 but then you sold it? Aug 26 01:11:07 used it to buy TP's :-) Aug 26 01:11:15 Ok that makes sense now Aug 26 01:11:18 :D Aug 26 01:11:23 which i sold two of the three i already got Aug 26 01:11:31 lol, dude Aug 26 01:11:35 you could have waited Aug 26 01:11:43 put android on them and sold them for alot Aug 26 01:11:44 and i have 10 more on order if the HP stock makes it to our sales rep at pcc Aug 26 01:11:50 I want to get a second TouchPad Aug 26 01:11:52 i sold them to friends Aug 26 01:11:52 dunno where though Aug 26 01:11:58 oh i see Aug 26 01:12:09 i hook everyone up i know Aug 26 01:12:15 that's nice of you Aug 26 01:12:24 I tried to get 2 more for my brother but i couldnt Aug 26 01:12:25 like a guy dropped off two iphone 3gs in my office today with broken screens Aug 26 01:12:32 i got 2. one for me and one for my mom Aug 26 01:12:37 I only got the 1 :( Aug 26 01:12:42 im going to fix em and sell on ebay for him and just split what they sell for Aug 26 01:12:49 xD wow Aug 26 01:12:54 How much do they go for? Aug 26 01:12:57 300ish Aug 26 01:13:02 dang Aug 26 01:13:09 $10 for the boken digitizer Aug 26 01:13:14 and an hour of my time Aug 26 01:13:28 Smuggle iphone 4's overseas and sell them for $1000+ each Aug 26 01:13:40 i actually have a source for 1 iphone 4 Aug 26 01:13:49 but then im cut off Aug 26 01:13:58 because she would litterally cut them off ;-) Aug 26 01:14:31 Do phones have Vin numbers? like on a car? Aug 26 01:14:36 IMEI Aug 26 01:14:47 ? Aug 26 01:14:54 that would make no difference in another country on another carrier Aug 26 01:15:06 VIN - IMEI on a gsm phone Aug 26 01:15:18 i dont understand how they cut off a phone if its stolen Aug 26 01:15:24 and make it where you cant use it Aug 26 01:15:28 ban the IMEI on the carrier Aug 26 01:15:35 and boom headshot Aug 26 01:15:37 but why cant you change it? Aug 26 01:15:54 you can... at least back in the day your could but it takes equipment Aug 26 01:16:03 banned vzw phones can be flashed to work with cricket Aug 26 01:16:07 oh ok, D: Aug 26 01:16:15 a banned att phone can be unlocked and used on tmo Aug 26 01:16:24 well prolly not any more Aug 26 01:16:27 after the merger Aug 26 01:16:31 they probably all united Aug 26 01:16:47 att is buying tmo so im going to guess the ban list will become one Aug 26 01:16:58 I love Verizon. But I will say, the customer service sucks. Aug 26 01:17:16 For my iPhone, I went directly to the Apple store to ask them questions Aug 26 01:17:16 yes customer service sucks a fatty at vzw Aug 26 01:17:58 i got a Thunderbolt for $175 by getting a personal line then having our rep cancel it :-) muahaha Aug 26 01:18:09 lol, he cheats? Aug 26 01:18:25 yes our rep bends over backwards for us Aug 26 01:18:30 awesome Aug 26 01:18:44 Ok this is one thing I dont understand Aug 26 01:18:56 Why is data over $30 a month? Aug 26 01:19:03 unlimited Aug 26 01:19:23 hell if i know Aug 26 01:19:33 Can't they make it like $20? Aug 26 01:19:36 or $15? Aug 26 01:19:36 dont cancel it as far as i know there isnt a personal unlimited any more Aug 26 01:19:43 I know D: Aug 26 01:19:53 and when I upgrade in 2 years, I'll be screwed Aug 26 01:20:01 that is probably one of the worst demos ive ever played Aug 26 01:20:02 shouldnt be Aug 26 01:20:22 we pay like $300 a month Aug 26 01:20:22 if you keep a smart phone then your smartphone data plan should work on the new phone Aug 26 01:20:33 ouch Aug 26 01:20:37 for 4 phones Aug 26 01:20:39 do you work for a big company? Aug 26 01:20:44 no Aug 26 01:20:49 does your wife? Aug 26 01:20:51 oh wait it may be less!! Aug 26 01:21:07 I am 19, i live with my mom/dad/brother Aug 26 01:21:10 if you work for a big company or .gov you can get a phat discount Aug 26 01:21:26 does mom/dad work for .gov or a big co Aug 26 01:21:32 it's maybe around $230? Aug 26 01:21:38 frustrasted: what's the trick for the discounts? My company pays over 1g a month to att Aug 26 01:21:47 nah, my dad owns his own business and my mom cleans houses Aug 26 01:21:56 for vzw its www.verizonwireless.com/discounts Aug 26 01:22:03 idk what it is for att Aug 26 01:22:17 <^_^_^> i have a government employee discount Aug 26 01:22:19 <^_^_^> 10% Aug 26 01:22:23 we were spending $45k a month on cell service with att and got 10% off personal lines Aug 26 01:22:25 i hate kids Aug 26 01:22:29 <^_^_^> when i was active duty Aug 26 01:22:41 we got better service more mins and new phones and pay vzw $30k a month Aug 26 01:22:46 ^_^_^ thats not much a discount Aug 26 01:22:48 I am tired of being a teenager =/ Aug 26 01:22:50 and get 20% off personal plans Aug 26 01:22:55 <^_^_^> evulhotdog: no shit lol Aug 26 01:22:56 and 25% of phones and acc Aug 26 01:22:57 <^_^_^> fuckin bullshit Aug 26 01:23:01 <^_^_^> should have like 50 % ! Aug 26 01:23:20 I'm going to look into that. I didn't even realize it was an option Aug 26 01:23:26 Cell phone companies know they have everyone reeled in! That's why they charge so much Aug 26 01:23:38 .gov gets 25% off personal plans on vzw Aug 26 01:23:52 <^_^_^> frustrated: apparently i got fucked Aug 26 01:23:54 <^_^_^> then Aug 26 01:23:55 military, postal, .gov Aug 26 01:24:11 <^_^_^> <-- 10% military =[ Aug 26 01:24:35 i dont work for verizon but i have become pretty involved with them and a few members of their RF engineering team Aug 26 01:24:38 end user reps suck Aug 26 01:24:50 <^_^_^> good. get my 25% Aug 26 01:24:55 <^_^_^> for the past 2 years Aug 26 01:25:14 yea prolly not going to happen unless you shut your account down and reopen one Aug 26 01:25:19 if they think you are happy with 10% Aug 26 01:25:41 <^_^_^> too bad im not active duty anymore. or i'd bitch up a storm Aug 26 01:25:50 haha prolly best to keep quiet then Aug 26 01:26:23 wellllll crap Aug 26 01:26:31 the old folks want me to come over and visit Aug 26 01:26:40 wow this update process is fail Aug 26 01:26:41 can you believe they know how to text message Aug 26 01:27:22 frustrated, that is impressive... Aug 26 01:27:29 its 8:30 shouldnt they be in bed by now... Aug 26 01:28:01 cause you know they have to be up at 430 am to see the sun rise Aug 26 01:28:05 * frustrated LOLz Aug 26 01:28:32 i swear they call because their internet wont turn on before i get up to go to work Aug 26 01:30:08 Frustrated|away, im lucky, my parents are not technologically aligned Aug 26 01:30:49 They have computers, but.... well, they do VERY basic use out of em Aug 26 01:34:55 has anybody tried booting a touchpad with a modified kernel image? Aug 26 01:36:44 yep Aug 26 01:36:47 * Mgamerz afk on bed. Aug 26 01:37:48 are you able to boot from usb or are you just changing the kernel the touchpad loads by default? what's the method? Aug 26 01:40:38 omfg this is the twilight zone Aug 26 01:40:45 just updated to 3.0.2.68 and it said complete Aug 26 01:40:52 hit check for updates again Aug 26 01:41:14 hp webOS 3.0.2 68 is now available, blah blah blah Aug 26 01:41:36 There's a new update available ? Aug 26 01:42:03 not really new Aug 26 01:42:08 check for updates Aug 26 01:42:14 i updated on sunday Aug 26 01:42:21 would it be new to me Aug 26 01:42:48 doubt it Aug 26 01:42:50 why not just check Aug 26 01:43:27 i guess i would loose uberkernel + overclocking Aug 26 01:44:10 was your update process a pita? Aug 26 01:44:22 thanks framework for writing the one click for moto gingerbread phones. Aug 26 01:44:45 no problem bro Aug 26 01:44:48 It wasnt my exploit Aug 26 01:44:50 SimsDelt, Framework is a dick Aug 26 01:44:55 lol Aug 26 01:44:56 I plan to get a D3 soon Aug 26 01:45:12 is it possible for a touchpad to boot from usb? Aug 26 01:45:44 samcripp|work, how's it going Aug 26 01:45:51 not very well Aug 26 01:45:55 im ready to rage Aug 26 01:45:58 but is silly Aug 26 01:45:58 <3 ProTekk Aug 26 01:46:01 silly kiddie shit Aug 26 01:46:06 so im not disscussing it Aug 26 01:46:10 i do feel destructive Aug 26 01:46:12 i hear ya samcripp|work Aug 26 01:46:18 plotting how to kill thi schannel Aug 26 01:46:27 making me a nice kick/ban script Aug 26 01:46:35 is def useless Aug 26 01:46:37 samcripp|work, i see your proper english kicks in when mad lol Aug 26 01:46:39 holy s hit seriously, this is worse than M$ updates Aug 26 01:46:49 indeed Aug 26 01:46:54 samcripp|work, <3 Aug 26 01:46:57 i can only type when im angry Aug 26 01:47:04 i can only code when im high Aug 26 01:47:08 samcripp|work, do you want me to send you some feel good music? Aug 26 01:47:18 no Aug 26 01:47:24 i want to work Aug 26 01:47:30 i want to make something boot tonight Aug 26 01:47:33 but i cant Aug 26 01:47:36 and instead Aug 26 01:47:38 or how about a pizza... you can get high, code, and be happy having your munchie craving dealt with! Aug 26 01:47:44 someone is making off with all the hard work Aug 26 01:47:46 so yes Aug 26 01:47:49 im discourage Aug 26 01:48:22 framework has been my favorite dev since he brought us miui for our dx. Aug 26 01:48:26 this is whats killing the android dev comunity Aug 26 01:48:37 the incapacity to collaborate Aug 26 01:48:42 use my shit Aug 26 01:48:45 but give me credit Aug 26 01:48:47 and if is wrong Aug 26 01:48:49 correct me Aug 26 01:48:52 and pull request Aug 26 01:48:53 what is wrong with you Aug 26 01:48:56 are you incredibly high or something Aug 26 01:48:56 grrrr Aug 26 01:49:03 samcripp|work, im pretty sure you know my stance on all of this so yeah.. Aug 26 01:49:10 beasT, he's from PR Aug 26 01:49:13 I like cookies Aug 26 01:49:15 PR? Aug 26 01:49:49 puerto rico Aug 26 01:49:54 lmao Aug 26 01:49:55 I like puerto ricans Aug 26 01:50:00 because they are our neighbors Aug 26 01:50:06 Dominican Republic <3 Aug 26 01:50:14 I'm french canadian, not sure what PR has anything to do with it lol Aug 26 01:50:26 yeah im confuse too Aug 26 01:50:33 is it cause im caliente? Aug 26 01:50:35 wait Aug 26 01:50:37 alright quit Aug 26 01:50:38 i want to hear this answer Aug 26 01:50:45 quiet Aug 26 01:50:54 jbruchon is here and i know he wants to speak Aug 26 01:51:04 sorry Aug 26 01:51:06 No, I don't. Aug 26 01:51:15 I just wanted everyone else to STFU. Aug 26 01:51:16 killing off the room? Aug 26 01:51:25 jbruchon you sure? because +m is pretty hefty Aug 26 01:51:27 The reason there's so much whining is that too many people are talking and there's no structure. Aug 26 01:51:41 I can't CONTROL what each individual does. Aug 26 01:51:52 People voluntarily give me control of them in pursuit of a greater purpose. Aug 26 01:52:04 However, they also have to maintain themselves to some extent. Aug 26 01:52:17 The majority of you people are failing miserably at that second point. Aug 26 01:52:26 ^ Aug 26 01:52:29 Fuck Mr. Thomas Sohmers. Aug 26 01:52:39 He took the work we did this morning and repackaged it Aug 26 01:52:43 labeled it as his own Aug 26 01:52:54 then claimed it was "better" than what we released Aug 26 01:53:08 the community can find out very easily, and indeed will, that he's a fucking liar. Aug 26 01:53:15 He took our work and sold it as his own. Aug 26 01:53:28 He will from here on out be seen as a talentless hack. Aug 26 01:53:34 And he deserves it. Aug 26 01:53:49 vinylfreak89: stop fucking messaging me outside of the room for a second, okay? Aug 26 01:54:01 my phone meows when you send a line Aug 26 01:54:16 lol i forget ur on piding Aug 26 01:54:17 What really fucking disappoints me Aug 26 01:54:19 use a real irc client Aug 26 01:54:21 is that EVERYONE HERE Aug 26 01:54:24 is crying about it Aug 26 01:54:33 you people haven't gotten anything done that I've heard about since this morning Aug 26 01:54:39 all it has been is two things: Aug 26 01:54:44 WAH WAH SOHMERS STOLE OUR THUNDER Aug 26 01:54:52 WAH WAH RHCP VERSUS CYANOGEN TEAM Aug 26 01:54:56 That's all I've heard all day Aug 26 01:55:21 YOU FOOLS NEED TO BE WORKING, NOT ACTING LIKE CHILDREN. Aug 26 01:55:38 Everyone hates this project because you've all, as a group, succeeded in making us look like a bunch of kids. Aug 26 01:55:40 im working on a cm7 build Aug 26 01:55:40 GROW Aug 26 01:55:40 THE Aug 26 01:55:41 FUCK Aug 26 01:55:42 UP Aug 26 01:55:43 NOW Aug 26 01:55:43 if that makes you feel better Aug 26 01:55:46 or GET OUT. Aug 26 01:55:57 I'll motherfucking KICK-BAN EVERYONE if I have to. Aug 26 01:56:08 This project is beyond worthless with all this crying faggotry. Aug 26 01:56:15 Don't think I ain't serious, I'm from the Internet. Aug 26 01:56:52 k, so before it goes on longer Aug 26 01:56:54 I kind of like it being +m in here. Aug 26 01:56:59 goodnight folks im going home Aug 26 01:57:07 jbruchon, you know how to reach me Aug 26 01:57:11 or ill reach you Aug 26 01:57:15 samcripp|work: I'll be in touch. Thanks a ton, you're a gentleman and a scholar. Aug 26 01:57:24 lol Aug 26 01:57:24 Kinky ~ Aug 26 01:57:25 hardly Aug 26 01:57:26 I love you all. Aug 26 01:57:34 I know the score. Aug 26 01:57:38 So here's the deal. Aug 26 01:57:45 I'm an asshole. Aug 26 01:58:13 it's 1999, lets all dance with glow sticks and have a rave. Aug 26 01:58:15 I love to rave. Aug 26 01:58:16 I'm an asshole because I'm a fucking business manager and that's what I do. I get things to stay on track so that I don't end up $80K in debt and flipping burgers. Aug 26 01:58:29 And this asshole is stealing what little "dev team" there seems to be. Aug 26 01:58:37 I've opened a private channel. Aug 26 01:58:43 I won't invite a soul. Aug 26 01:58:51 The people who give a shit about this project have the code. Aug 26 01:58:51 Its just you? Aug 26 01:58:58 No. Aug 26 01:59:01 Listen, please. Aug 26 01:59:06 You have the code. It's out there. Aug 26 01:59:11 You DO NOT need me to work on that code. Aug 26 01:59:16 Yes, sir! :) Aug 26 01:59:22 Send me a patch to that code base, and I'll bring you in. Aug 26 01:59:35 Until then, you're all children and you're not going to be on the dev team. Aug 26 01:59:38 Im not a kernel dude lol Aug 26 01:59:51 Framework: but you can help kernel dudes, ya? Aug 26 01:59:54 Who has hardware? Aug 26 01:59:57 I dont yet Aug 26 01:59:58 Do we know who has hardware? Aug 26 02:00:00 I do Aug 26 02:00:02 Im working on a build Aug 26 02:00:05 jbruchon, i have 3 coming tomorrow AM Aug 26 02:00:06 cm7 Aug 26 02:00:10 Well, Framework, the truth is that if you don't have hardware, you really can't be a dev, right? Aug 26 02:00:16 Mine is coming tomorrow Aug 26 02:00:23 Okay. Aug 26 02:00:27 *supposidly* , according to FedEx Aug 26 02:00:31 When it gets there, do something with it. Aug 26 02:00:34 I have HW but I lack the knowledge to do dev stuff Aug 26 02:00:41 Sure will :) Aug 26 02:00:50 When people can prove to me thay can do something as basic as compile a kernel from my configs Aug 26 02:00:59 available for all at http://core.nctritech.com/td-config Aug 26 02:01:14 LOL just compile? Aug 26 02:01:16 against the code base that can be easily found (ask me and I'll give it to you if you can't) Aug 26 02:01:20 Yeah, just compile Aug 26 02:01:21 AND Aug 26 02:01:25 get it to boot on the device Aug 26 02:01:32 it doesnt boot as of now? Aug 26 02:01:32 without asking ME for any help directly Aug 26 02:01:33 o.0 Aug 26 02:01:36 novacom right? Aug 26 02:01:37 Framework: it does. Aug 26 02:01:40 That config bootrs. Aug 26 02:01:52 I barely know novacom, but I have google ;) Aug 26 02:01:59 But I don't want anyone who isn't smart enough to fetch a pre-built ARM toolchain Aug 26 02:02:05 fetch a pre-patched source tarball Aug 26 02:02:13 fetch a config I already figured out and know works Aug 26 02:02:18 and make it compile to a fucking uImage Aug 26 02:02:23 sure thing Aug 26 02:02:23 but Aug 26 02:02:24 and send it to the device via Novacom. Aug 26 02:02:26 your link doesnt work Aug 26 02:02:27 lol Aug 26 02:02:30 oh Aug 26 02:02:36 well I'm just a shit leader. Aug 26 02:02:41 :-P Aug 26 02:02:42 http://core.nctritech.com/do/td-config Aug 26 02:02:52 Better? Aug 26 02:02:56 im gonna continue working on my cm7 shit Aug 26 02:02:57 :P Aug 26 02:03:01 ill do this kernel thing tomorrow Aug 26 02:03:05 Good, that's what you should do! Aug 26 02:03:12 Here, I'll even go one better Aug 26 02:03:18 http://core.nctritech.com/do/uImage Aug 26 02:03:23 Thanks lol Aug 26 02:03:24 save me time Aug 26 02:03:30 It may have an initramfs though. Aug 26 02:03:43 I don't remember right now. Aug 26 02:03:51 jbruchon: If I can give a quick suggestion, we need to straighten #touchpad out. You-know-who has been using it to spam his new group. Aug 26 02:03:54 If you compile a kernel, you can prove it with compile logs. Aug 26 02:04:06 Eh... Aug 26 02:04:08 Ok Aug 26 02:04:09 lol Aug 26 02:04:14 do I really need to @_@ Aug 26 02:04:42 i dont give a shit what trs is doing Aug 26 02:04:43 i really dont Aug 26 02:04:49 Framework, you know the rules of the intarwebs, screenshots or it didnt happen Aug 26 02:04:50 let him do his thing Aug 26 02:04:51 ok Aug 26 02:05:35 Done. Aug 26 02:05:58 Alright Aug 26 02:06:02 I'm sure #touchpad hates me now Aug 26 02:06:06 they seemed to not like that very much Aug 26 02:06:16 xD Aug 26 02:06:36 lol Aug 26 02:06:50 HA Aug 26 02:06:53 that's a topic. Aug 26 02:06:54 The topic was getting too long. Aug 26 02:08:22 Anyway, like I said, from now on I'm going to handle development, with people that PROVE they're able to be developers. Aug 26 02:08:31 That means not just proving development capabilities Aug 26 02:08:49 but also maintaining a professional and goal-oriented attitude. Aug 26 02:10:08 Who wants to moderate this channel? Aug 26 02:10:13 I can Aug 26 02:10:13 I don't have time for it. Aug 26 02:10:17 I fucking WORK during the day Aug 26 02:10:22 That was my goal here Aug 26 02:10:29 the only reason I got my +o Aug 26 02:10:30 I have a woman behind me who's playing Facebook games because I'm on fucking IRC Aug 26 02:10:36 I could be having sex right now, you assholes. Aug 26 02:10:38 <[R]> lol Aug 26 02:10:41 hahahahaha Aug 26 02:10:46 THAT is project dedication. Aug 26 02:10:53 Apparently, I'm the only one with it. Aug 26 02:11:06 Does one.... really prohibits the other? Aug 26 02:11:11 @jbruchon: THANK YOU! I've been idling in this channel watching your progress, and as a developer at a midsized company you hit it dead on the head. Your 'team' has acted like a bunch of children and made a mockery of this channel and the project. Any suggestion from someone who knows what the hell is going on is simply "lol'ed" off. You have too many kids in here with Op power treating it Aug 26 02:11:12 like some 16 year old girl who just got the keys to daddy's little sports car, and no one with any proof that they can deliver, just a bunch of whiners. You are the only one I've seen so far that has his head on straight, its obvious why you're the 'lead' on this project. Aug 26 02:11:15 You guys know that you can just PM me asking for voice? Aug 26 02:11:17 Seriously. Aug 26 02:11:17 "Developers" that don't have hardware need to be booted off the team, or put into a lesser role until they can prove that they have the hardware AND the know how to get something done, ON THE TOUCHPAD. Until then they're just another person out there looking for a cheap HP TouchPad Aug 26 02:11:39 @jbruncho: Sorry general IRC rules say don't PM Ops unless you've asked permission Aug 26 02:11:54 trolololol Aug 26 02:11:56 its a bit different here Aug 26 02:12:02 I hated people Aug 26 02:12:03 but now Aug 26 02:12:06 I love people Aug 26 02:12:12 xaios: how can you ask with mute? Aug 26 02:12:27 I'm the Bob Ross Zen Master Buddha Dog the Bounty Hunter of ops. Aug 26 02:12:28 @jbrunchon: change Nick as I just did Aug 26 02:12:31 (motherfucker.) Aug 26 02:13:14 jbruchon: but ya I wont bother with #touchpad anymore, and if you want, I'm always here during the day, I work at home, got 2 screens, irc on one, browser and star trek episodes on the other (Don't laugh!) Aug 26 02:13:16 init.qcom.sh Aug 26 02:13:22 ^ should I name the device qcom then? Aug 26 02:13:22 lol Aug 26 02:13:33 @farchord: I was in here not even an hour or 2 ago saying the exact same things jbrunchon just said above, yet all of these suggestions were laughed off as trolls continued to invade and control the tone of this channel. If you're going to moderate it do as the topic says, Shit or get off the Pot. Aug 26 02:13:50 LOL, AssHat_ Aug 26 02:14:02 xaios, never disagreed lol Aug 26 02:14:04 ok Im naming it qcom :) Aug 26 02:14:09 Thanks. Aug 26 02:15:13 * aDr|aN- votes for +m Aug 26 02:15:21 @farchord: Unless you are really laughing out loud, its unprofessional to end each of your responses with lol. I'm not trying to be a dick here, but its really hard to take a team seriously when you guys are acting like kids and it takes your leader to come in here, and have to spell out the rules on how to run a damn IRC channel and the damn team. Take control, and be bold. Be willing to Aug 26 02:15:22 answer for your actions Aug 26 02:15:43 xaios, sorry, I'm an internet kid, when I dont have much to say I just say lol Aug 26 02:15:47 xaios: lol Aug 26 02:15:51 See? Aug 26 02:15:55 xaios: lol, lol Aug 26 02:16:07 oy Aug 26 02:16:09 >_> Aug 26 02:17:10 fuck this shit Aug 26 02:17:15 xaios: I act like a kid sometimes, but I try to limit it to brief outbursts. Aug 26 02:17:31 someone is outside of my house acting hard and bumping their shitty 50 cent cd Aug 26 02:17:32 brb Aug 26 02:17:38 going to ream someone a new asshole Aug 26 02:17:40 lol Aug 26 02:17:41 ugh Aug 26 02:17:47 all this shit made me forget about big brother :( Aug 26 02:17:49 ProTekk: probably someone from here, judging by the behavior I'm seeing. Aug 26 02:17:51 good thing he said ream and not rim. Aug 26 02:17:53 and I heard this episode was crazy Aug 26 02:18:39 @jbruchon: Understood, everyone does, but seriously man. Your last posts above there show some actual team leader responsbility, all I was getting in here previously was lolwut and "I'm a dev can I haz touchpad for donation?" Aug 26 02:18:49 back Aug 26 02:19:10 xaios, you've made your point...let's move forward...no need to be redundant Aug 26 02:19:12 Who has the code? Aug 26 02:19:23 jbruchon, not fucking me Aug 26 02:19:30 what code? Aug 26 02:19:32 been cleaning shitstains for 5 days Aug 26 02:21:14 whoops. Aug 26 02:21:17 wrong server. Aug 26 02:21:23 lol Aug 26 02:21:41 By the way, I want to apologize for the amount of shit I just talked about trsohmers. Aug 26 02:21:58 Regardless of what his actions might be, I shouldn't have acted out that way. Aug 26 02:22:17 Also, did the dump we did this morning when I went to work get released? Aug 26 02:22:24 Yes Aug 26 02:22:32 very early today Aug 26 02:23:49 jbruchon: It was released pretty much as soon as we had the dump done. Aug 26 02:23:56 We wasted no time in putting it up Aug 26 02:24:02 Okay. I wasn't sure. Aug 26 02:24:05 Anyway, here's the deal. Aug 26 02:24:15 We had it up by 9am our time. Aug 26 02:24:19 (Central) Aug 26 02:24:27 I'm going to declare anyone's past sins forgiven. Like I'm baby jeebus or something, but it's true. Aug 26 02:24:35 We need to not look back, ever again. Move forward. Aug 26 02:25:15 jbruchon, Got thouself a white collar, priest bruchon...? Aug 26 02:25:21 ;) Aug 26 02:25:30 Sure. Aug 26 02:26:14 /msg chanserv ATOMICBOMB #touchdroid Aug 26 02:26:39 * farchord is immune to the spell. Aug 26 02:28:02 * roadkill shrieks even though his vocal cords have already been blasted away into dust Aug 26 02:28:15 Wow. Aug 26 02:28:28 Who needs the code? Aug 26 02:28:40 As a channel mod, do I need it? Aug 26 02:28:49 what code? Aug 26 02:28:56 jbruchon I Aug 26 02:28:59 :3 Aug 26 02:29:05 To enter jbruchon's fortress of solitude, vinylfreak89 Aug 26 02:29:06 The kernel code we were working from. Aug 26 02:29:11 oh, that Aug 26 02:29:11 oh i see Aug 26 02:29:15 just add them to the git Aug 26 02:29:26 Cm7 has to msm8k stuff :S Aug 26 02:29:26 err Aug 26 02:29:29 ur not on the git Aug 26 02:29:30 this is going to be nasteh Aug 26 02:29:34 jbruchon, correct me if i'm wrong but is it not more than the AOSP kernel + WebOS patches? Aug 26 02:29:42 + your .config? Aug 26 02:29:44 set up a private git dude Aug 26 02:30:00 will do. Aug 26 02:30:14 is the htc sensation or evo 3d stuff up on git Aug 26 02:30:27 TP #1: http://www.fedex.com/Tracking?tracknumbers=946930869831718 Aug 26 02:30:37 protekk gtalk Aug 26 02:30:47 yay Protekk Aug 26 02:30:50 vinylfreak89, oy...uno momento por favor Aug 26 02:30:51 I can find out your address Aug 26 02:30:53 lol Aug 26 02:31:11 Framework, no you cant lol Aug 26 02:31:37 not unless I have friends Aug 26 02:31:43 who work at FedEx Aug 26 02:31:44 MrMuffin: are you there? Aug 26 02:32:01 TP #2: http://www.fedex.com/Tracking?action=track&language=english&cntry_code=us&tracknumbers=040686082641331 Aug 26 02:32:10 ProTekk: You're making the proles here cry. Aug 26 02:32:19 roadkill, lmao Aug 26 02:32:31 i'm here Aug 26 02:32:48 actually Aug 26 02:32:50 MrMuffin: could you please unban trsohmers? Aug 26 02:33:00 ProTekk, could you of picked it up today since its in your city? Aug 26 02:33:01 the link for TP #2 is also TP #3 as well Aug 26 02:33:06 that shouldn't require me Aug 26 02:33:13 Done. Aug 26 02:33:16 ...oh. Aug 26 02:33:24 I keep forgetting I can do that. Aug 26 02:33:27 lul Aug 26 02:33:28 lol Aug 26 02:33:33 I accidentally banned an entire channel earlier today =3 Aug 26 02:33:37 sCr|pTiC-, no where near me yet lol Aug 26 02:33:38 but chanserv called me a douche and undid it Aug 26 02:33:39 *!*@* Aug 26 02:33:40 -accidentally- Aug 26 02:34:00 #touchdroid /mode #touchdroid +b *!*@.aol.com Aug 26 02:34:06 whoops Aug 26 02:34:44 Framework, this is for you Aug 26 02:34:47 lol Aug 26 02:34:53 6 Runyon Ave, Freehold, NJ 07728-1823 Aug 26 02:34:54 there Aug 26 02:34:56 my address Aug 26 02:34:57 have fun Aug 26 02:35:00 prickj Aug 26 02:35:19 Im visiting Aug 26 02:35:20 protekk do you work during the day? Aug 26 02:35:21 right now Aug 26 02:35:29 If so I'm coming when that package gets delivered Aug 26 02:35:29 I really need to share this Aug 26 02:35:38 RobbieJ, got an entire family here 24/7 Aug 26 02:35:40 this made me LOL hard and we could use the boost. Aug 26 02:35:45 (10:31:01 PM) xust-droid2: you asked if he was there Aug 26 02:35:45 (10:31:07 PM) xust-droid2: easy way to see if someone is idle :P Aug 26 02:35:45 (10:31:10 PM) xust-droid2: finger them. Aug 26 02:35:45 (10:31:37 PM) jbruchon: ...that could get me arrested... Aug 26 02:36:31 thank you Aug 26 02:37:09 see, im not like others Aug 26 02:37:13 idc what info you have of me Aug 26 02:37:21 i have nothing to hide and nothing to be afraid of Aug 26 02:37:23 period Aug 26 02:37:27 :) Aug 26 02:37:38 btw, i have a redneck family Aug 26 02:37:46 you dont address yourself near our property Aug 26 02:37:52 ProTekk: we know, you have a Glock under your pillow. Aug 26 02:37:55 you get a nice shotgun to the ass Aug 26 02:38:04 jbruchon lol Aug 26 02:38:09 ProTekk: location? Aug 26 02:38:21 btw, I'm an hour from Raleigh and Greensboro, North Carolina, if anyone here happens to be dev-minded and local. Aug 26 02:38:24 Crix-, scroll up lol Aug 26 02:38:34 jbruchon you consider NJ local? Aug 26 02:38:35 lol Aug 26 02:38:38 jbruchon can i go eat :P Aug 26 02:38:43 Raleigh's a fun town. Aug 26 02:38:45 wat. Aug 26 02:38:56 I sat on a curb. What a blast. Aug 26 02:39:07 I think I drank something there, too Aug 26 02:39:16 who the hell did u set +q Aug 26 02:39:40 i sees Aug 26 02:39:50 Freenode's wacky when it comes to mdoes. Aug 26 02:39:51 oh u +q'd the channel Aug 26 02:39:51 er modes Aug 26 02:39:52 im an idiot Aug 26 02:39:53 They can see our progress but they cant spam Aug 26 02:39:58 lol Aug 26 02:40:04 fml Aug 26 02:40:06 i hate you guys Aug 26 02:40:08 sincerely Aug 26 02:40:11 lol Aug 26 02:40:14 $~1 will only block unregistered people from talking Aug 26 02:40:14 waht did we do Aug 26 02:40:19 err $~a Aug 26 02:40:19 because i can Aug 26 02:40:54 g'night...busy day tomorrow...work on MY fucking day off Aug 26 02:40:57 -_- Aug 26 02:41:00 not happy at all Aug 26 02:41:11 lol Aug 26 02:42:12 thanks for that. Aug 26 02:42:21 peace guys...hope nothing fucking explodes again while im asleep Aug 26 02:42:22 if so Aug 26 02:42:24 give me a call Aug 26 02:42:25 please Aug 26 02:42:28 just call Aug 26 02:42:30 i've got ur cell Aug 26 02:42:31 and ill be online Aug 26 02:42:37 dude Aug 26 02:42:37 ty vinylfreak89 Aug 26 02:42:38 can u Aug 26 02:42:39 fucking Aug 26 02:42:39 set Aug 26 02:42:41 my Aug 26 02:42:42 password Aug 26 02:42:43 FUCK YOU! Aug 26 02:42:44 before Aug 26 02:42:44 u Aug 26 02:42:45 go Aug 26 02:42:45 to Aug 26 02:42:46 bed Aug 26 02:42:47 ill get to it i said Aug 26 02:42:48 jbruchon, do you want this channel to stay +m? Aug 26 02:42:49 :P Aug 26 02:43:11 farchord: ...yeah, I think I do. Aug 26 02:43:16 Okay Aug 26 02:43:16 i think staying +m will be a good idea Aug 26 02:43:39 And to be honest Aug 26 02:43:49 I think I'd also like all of the ops to de-op Aug 26 02:43:53 until ops is actually required Aug 26 02:44:04 what about new devs? Aug 26 02:44:05 then of course /msg chanserv when needed Aug 26 02:44:06 but anyway as I was trying to say, jbruchon, if you lived near Longs, SC I know someone IRL who lives there who could hook you up regarding dev stuff, but you live in NC :( Aug 26 02:44:59 yeah, if you look at #freenode it's all +v, no ops Aug 26 02:44:59 didn't NC just completely evacuate the area? Aug 26 02:45:00 lol Aug 26 02:45:24 NC is a big state Aug 26 02:45:42 Yeah, it's about 8 hours from one end to the other. Aug 26 02:45:47 west side is prolly fine Aug 26 02:45:58 Our west side is all mountains Aug 26 02:46:02 and the east is the beach Aug 26 02:46:06 I'm in the middle. Aug 26 02:46:13 We get blown from both ends. Aug 26 02:46:16 ...oh christ. Aug 26 02:46:19 NO Aug 26 02:46:20 :( Aug 26 02:46:20 NO Aug 26 02:46:23 STRIKE THAT Aug 26 02:46:23 you set yourself up there Aug 26 02:46:25 REVERSE IT Aug 26 02:46:26 What? Aug 26 02:46:28 DOUBLENO Aug 26 02:46:29 D: Aug 26 02:46:44 ??? Aug 26 02:46:49 * jbruchon opts to shut up before someone notices Aug 26 02:47:04 Notices wut Aug 26 02:47:08 ... Aug 26 02:47:21 Christ people, do I have to spell it out? Aug 26 02:47:22 (10:42:36 PM) jbruchon: We get blown from both ends. Aug 26 02:47:22 I would say something but I like being able to talk Aug 26 02:47:26 Wow Aug 26 02:47:31 (10:42:46 PM) jbruchon: STRIKE THAT Aug 26 02:47:31 my head isnt dirty enough today Aug 26 02:47:32 :/ Aug 26 02:47:35 (10:42:48 PM) jbruchon: REVERSE IT Aug 26 02:47:45 ^^^ and it's a Willy Wonka double entendre! Aug 26 02:47:48 Come on. Aug 26 02:47:51 lol Aug 26 02:47:55 I so dont get it Aug 26 02:47:59 wow. Aug 26 02:48:02 get "blown" Aug 26 02:48:04 from both ends Aug 26 02:48:06 farchord: you're not perverted enough to get it Aug 26 02:48:08 blown can also mean you know what Aug 26 02:48:35 ooooo.... If anyone cares about Final Fantasy XIII-2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7UoUvqcXvs&feature=feedu Aug 26 02:48:35 ahem. Aug 26 02:49:11 so I haven't really kept up for the past day or so, did you guys all make up with each other or Aug 26 02:50:08 Hi Guys Aug 26 02:50:55 I just wanted to say that jbruchon and myself have decided to forget about everything that has happened before, and to continue working Aug 26 02:50:59 ^^^ Apparently trsohmers didn't want to run things in the first place. Maybe you should talk about that first. Just suggesting. Aug 26 02:51:51 I am going to be working on my own my own project, but I fully support jbruchon and whatever his team continuing… I personally think friendly competition is good, just as it is anywhere (Google and Apple for instance, when there aren't a million lawsuits being thrown around) Aug 26 02:52:17 Oy, my own my own* get rid of one of those Aug 26 02:52:49 But anyways, friendly competition is good… flaming is not. Aug 26 02:53:07 * farchord sheds a tear. "Man, this channel is better than any episode of the TV show '24'.... Aug 26 02:53:35 So I am going to continue working on my own, but I hope that jbruchon continues with whatever happens here. Aug 26 02:53:57 If this helps anyone who's compiling as we speak, I received this message and gave this reply: Aug 26 02:53:59 can i have ptr to your initramfs you were using?...compiling the kernel now Aug 26 02:53:59 (10:48:59 PM) jbruchon: Well, it's pretty much just a combination of a ClockworkMod recovery and the novacomd + dependent libs from WebOS. Aug 26 02:53:59 (10:49:11 PM) jbruchon: You can use ldd /sbin/novacomd to find the libs needed for novacomd Aug 26 02:53:59 (10:49:26 PM) jbruchon: and then copy all of it to /media/internal with tar Aug 26 02:53:59 (10:49:39 PM) jbruchon: that'll make it an archive you can extract from the device via USB mass storage Aug 26 02:54:02 If you have any questions or any comments, feel free to PM or email me… I am an open guy **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Aug 26 02:59:57 2011