**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Aug 28 02:59:57 2011 Aug 28 03:00:04 shamash I'm using an Android phone Aug 28 03:00:06 Guys, how would I start Unity from the command line?** Aug 28 03:00:11 startx Aug 28 03:00:11 ? Aug 28 03:00:12 no idea then Aug 28 03:00:13 yeah, same issue, got the OG Droid Aug 28 03:00:14 my TP is able to tether off my atrix? Aug 28 03:00:23 i use Mobile AP from cm7 Aug 28 03:00:33 rhcp : I mean whatever small version you were running earlier Aug 28 03:00:33 No I actually gave up my $80,000 job to go do some religious studies in israel without a penny to my name Aug 28 03:00:42 Yes I know I'm an idiot Aug 28 03:00:43 LOL Aug 28 03:00:51 rofl Aug 28 03:01:05 dono going to give tmzt_ some time. I guess hes eating perhaps Aug 28 03:01:09 not sure what he wanted me to test Aug 28 03:01:24 vistazifta: Congrats, you have up a job in a bad economy to go do religious studies. Aug 28 03:01:24 ne1 else in the hurricane? Aug 28 03:01:26 * tusing_ sighs Aug 28 03:01:32 << NYC here Aug 28 03:01:41 <<<< same Aug 28 03:01:43 nj here Aug 28 03:01:46 Central NJ, pretty windy... gusts to about 32mph right now Aug 28 03:01:53 well northern NJ 10mil from manhatten Aug 28 03:01:58 we got 0 in mid NC Aug 28 03:02:00 south j Aug 28 03:02:02 not even wind Aug 28 03:02:04 or rain Aug 28 03:02:05 dono Aug 28 03:02:06 coastal maine, nothing now Aug 28 03:02:07 :) Aug 28 03:02:17 has it passed the NC area? Aug 28 03:02:19 rain coming Aug 28 03:02:20 UWS Manhattan here Aug 28 03:02:20 we already had about 2 inches Aug 28 03:02:32 with a bit of wind Aug 28 03:02:36 md213: you must be RICH!!!!! Aug 28 03:02:46 curious how long the MTA will be shut down fer Aug 28 03:02:47 lol Aug 28 03:02:48 lol, pfft Aug 28 03:02:49 RICH?? Aug 28 03:02:58 my apartment's only 1800 per month Aug 28 03:03:04 jesus Aug 28 03:03:04 only Aug 28 03:03:04 :P Aug 28 03:03:05 rhcp, it's going to take awhile for the Qcom stuff to compile. I'm curious what it looks like afterwards. Aug 28 03:03:06 wow, how'd u get that? Aug 28 03:03:07 I had a package being delivered and it was scanned as a departure but never was scanned as arriving anywhere lmao Aug 28 03:03:13 yeah...that's not much for Manhattan Aug 28 03:03:17 md213: howd you manage that in UWS ? Aug 28 03:03:22 Flatspin: i dono tbh. im not messing with qcom shit Aug 28 03:03:23 blessin's Aug 28 03:03:31 jcase said palm dropped some android patch? Aug 28 03:03:33 i'm about 1.5 blks off Central Park West Aug 28 03:03:33 I have the webos linux kernel out and patched with their patches. Aug 28 03:03:33 anyone have info Aug 28 03:03:35 dude gets me your connectionsss Aug 28 03:03:47 But not going to try to compile until the other is done Aug 28 03:04:01 nice @ Flat! Aug 28 03:04:07 brb Aug 28 03:04:11 The Qcom stuff may be a waste of time. But it also might help if we have trouble with certain drivers. Aug 28 03:04:31 more interested to fix our current issue. and i think we can move on Aug 28 03:04:36 to putting real android inside the ramfs Aug 28 03:04:37 :) Aug 28 03:05:06 I know. But I'd have to ask too many questions to catch up to you all right now.. Aug 28 03:05:12 Well at least I got to avoid hurricane lol I'm from Lakewood and my parent Brooklyn An to all the ppl who think I shouldn't have given up my job I'ma highschool dropout and plan on getting my GED in thee next six months I'm only 21 Aug 28 03:05:15 trust me. me too Aug 28 03:05:16 :) Aug 28 03:05:21 i have been gone for a few hrs with dinner Aug 28 03:06:01 vistazifta: where the fuck did that come from? Aug 28 03:06:08 you just return from an acid trip? Aug 28 03:06:15 lmfao Aug 28 03:06:18 Holy gods, someone likes to share. Aug 28 03:06:26 * PAulyhoffman is away: Aug 28 03:06:37 * siestacat is sexy Aug 28 03:06:45 * neer2005 doesnt think so Aug 28 03:06:55 yeah man I don't know that I'd be thrown down that you're getting your GED and you're ONLY 21 Aug 28 03:07:04 That's cheap in uws lol yea md213 even minimum wage boys r payin that there lol Aug 28 03:07:20 wtf? Aug 28 03:07:25 whats a ged? Aug 28 03:07:40 is that a retarded bot or a real person? Aug 28 03:07:50 I'm guessing the reading comprehension section of the GED was not your strong suit, vista. Aug 28 03:07:55 hahaha Aug 28 03:07:58 lol Aug 28 03:08:05 hes named after a crappy os Aug 28 03:08:09 I expected less Aug 28 03:08:14 You mean the writing section. Aug 28 03:08:17 dougpiston a good enough degree duh Aug 28 03:08:27 for sure it is Aug 28 03:08:30 i'm in dc and i played golf today Aug 28 03:08:38 was going ti say, he yses vista, whatd ya expect Aug 28 03:08:43 dudes Aug 28 03:08:46 lol nhat Aug 28 03:08:50 TORNADO WATCH Aug 28 03:08:52 how bad is the storm there right now? Aug 28 03:08:53 vistazifta: attended the Derrik Zoolander skool for kidz who don't read so good. Aug 28 03:08:59 I don't remember, I took my GED about a week after I was 17 and legally able to do it. That was only 20 years ago. Aug 28 03:09:06 TORNADO WATCH IN NJ Aug 28 03:09:06 ...holy fuck it's been 20 years. I feel so old. Aug 28 03:09:07 I have a GED too :( Aug 28 03:09:08 :P Aug 28 03:09:09 black people Aug 28 03:09:11 xust all it did was rain steadily all day...strong drizzle Aug 28 03:09:15 yeah Aug 28 03:09:16 neer2005, where in NJ are you? Aug 28 03:09:18 i'm in Annandale Aug 28 03:09:20 Lolwut Aug 28 03:09:21 we've been in a tornado watch for the past 3 hours or so Aug 28 03:09:22 fuck you Knee Gro ProTekk Aug 28 03:09:24 ProTekk: bergen county Aug 28 03:09:25 until 5 am Aug 28 03:09:29 xust you must be korean Aug 28 03:09:31 * dougpiston has a diploma. i win Aug 28 03:09:35 neer2005, Freehold here...monmouth county Aug 28 03:09:36 me too me too Aug 28 03:09:39 no Aug 28 03:09:40 does Touchpad have headphone port? Aug 28 03:09:41 * Toxinate gets a diploma in 4 months Aug 28 03:09:43 i couldnt find it Aug 28 03:09:44 :( Aug 28 03:09:46 Ice_Black, yes Aug 28 03:09:46 <-- the last white person in this town Aug 28 03:09:49 it's on top lol Aug 28 03:09:51 ProTekk: dude you shoulda evacuated lol Aug 28 03:09:55 marlboro here Aug 28 03:09:55 opposite the power button Aug 28 03:10:01 Ice_Black: yes Aug 28 03:10:03 Toxinate, no shit?! Aug 28 03:10:07 lol, yeah Aug 28 03:10:09 wouldn't it be an advantage for the rest of the US if the south shore got fuck upped ProTekk ? Aug 28 03:10:10 Ohhhh thx! Aug 28 03:10:20 Haha Zifta means crap in Arabic lol Aug 28 03:10:24 xust you must be the one white person i saw at wara wara and honey pig a couple weeks ago Aug 28 03:10:25 Sid69: south shore? Aug 28 03:10:25 wha? ProTekk where are you? Aug 28 03:10:27 haha Toxinate Aug 28 03:10:30 dougpiston, fuck you Aug 28 03:10:34 Who is muslim here? Aug 28 03:10:38 nearly sehri :D Aug 28 03:10:39 im serious Aug 28 03:10:41 so is there a 303 update? Aug 28 03:10:42 Someone should rewrite Aenima to change the target to the Jersey Shore instead of L.A. Aug 28 03:10:42 fuck muslims Aug 28 03:10:48 x2 Aug 28 03:10:48 xust behave Aug 28 03:10:49 dougpiston, Freehold, NJ....monmouth county Aug 28 03:10:49 I'm Jewish Aug 28 03:10:53 But Bill Hicks would not have approved. Aug 28 03:10:54 oh Aug 28 03:10:57 you giid Aug 28 03:11:00 good Aug 28 03:11:03 fuck radicals, i'm alright with muslims Aug 28 03:11:05 they all gang up on me at work trying to tell me about why i have to believe in a god Aug 28 03:11:11 might get disconnected Aug 28 03:11:13 Protect Aug 28 03:11:13 power outages Aug 28 03:11:14 went to freehold boro for voc, lol Aug 28 03:11:17 * Xavierdarkness checks the network he's on Aug 28 03:11:17 but going to tether to my inc2 Aug 28 03:11:31 Protekk I'm from Lakewood ocean county Aug 28 03:11:32 Xavierdarkness, Aug 28 03:11:39 Sup dood Aug 28 03:11:59 Hey guys Aug 28 03:12:01 fyi touchpad tethers to my evo fine Aug 28 03:12:01 ProTekk: same i got my atrix ready to go just incase Aug 28 03:12:02 havent seen your crusty ass in a bit Aug 28 03:12:04 vistazifta you fucking jew...gtfo Aug 28 03:12:05 come join the takin tards to the zoo show Aug 28 03:12:07 anyone know what version of LVM webOS is using? Aug 28 03:12:19 your personal bus driver rhcp will be guiding this tour Aug 28 03:12:21 i hate how everyone took break at exactly the same time, because they were finally allowed to eat again when they were doing that fasting BS Aug 28 03:12:25 I don't care what religion someone is, as long as they don't try and control my life with thier dogma. Aug 28 03:12:34 TellarHK: +1 Aug 28 03:12:34 dougpiston: imma be afk for a good while in a couple days Aug 28 03:12:35 vistazifta Shalom Aug 28 03:12:37 leaving just me behind to cover the sales floor in 2 departments Aug 28 03:12:39 I'll respect all the ones that respect me, and fuck the rest. Aug 28 03:12:41 Tornado warnings are moving north through Monmouth Aug 28 03:12:46 TellarHK: +2 Aug 28 03:12:46 its just south of manalapan right now Aug 28 03:12:46 Jewish that speaks Arabic and yea the second I said Lakewood u understood what I am Aug 28 03:12:50 Thank you. ;) Aug 28 03:12:57 Xavierdarkness, what ya doin? Aug 28 03:13:00 vistazifta, ;) Aug 28 03:13:02 * TellarHK AFK's to install some VMWare 5.0.0 Aug 28 03:13:06 dougpiston: college Aug 28 03:13:14 ProTekk: you getting your GED too? Aug 28 03:13:21 don't get a GED Aug 28 03:13:24 everyone laughs at them Aug 28 03:13:26 Sid69, i graduated son Aug 28 03:13:32 Freehold is mall and movies for me Aug 28 03:13:34 finals are this week for me Aug 28 03:13:37 vistazifta, fuck you Aug 28 03:13:40 shut the fuck up Aug 28 03:13:43 haha Aug 28 03:13:45 thats better Aug 28 03:13:49 1.5 square mile town Aug 28 03:13:52 deal with it Aug 28 03:13:53 protekk why do you talk like one of my older roommates? lol Aug 28 03:14:02 Woo, I can work on my VM's from here. Aug 28 03:14:15 95% mexican 3.5% black 1.5% white vistazifta Aug 28 03:14:19 thats freehold Aug 28 03:14:20 lol Aug 28 03:14:37 vistazifta I'm also frum, live in Brooklyn. Aug 28 03:14:38 * dougpiston is all white Aug 28 03:14:40 you must be white, all those other minorities don't own computers Aug 28 03:14:45 I never found a GED to be a hindrance to me. But I do tell people "Yeah, I was homeless and I aced it without finishing a year of HS. And here's my degree." Aug 28 03:14:46 ninja please Aug 28 03:14:52 Lmao Aug 28 03:14:54 Toxinate, im white Aug 28 03:14:56 That tends to get them to ignore the GED part. :) Aug 28 03:14:58 bedsheet white Aug 28 03:15:07 ProTekk: = Jew Aug 28 03:15:08 they own only knives Aug 28 03:15:12 for their gang wars Aug 28 03:15:13 im the whitest kid you know Aug 28 03:15:16 white like snow Aug 28 03:15:21 white like rice Aug 28 03:15:25 Sid69, tosser Aug 28 03:15:28 I'm from Maine. Aug 28 03:15:28 haha Aug 28 03:15:29 white like cocaine Aug 28 03:15:32 I got through the GED prep class in less time than minimum required hours for one week Aug 28 03:15:33 :( Aug 28 03:15:33 Haha in lakwood it's like 10sq miles 60 jewish 30 hispanc and 10 black and all the hospanioc and black r either bloods or cryps Aug 28 03:15:34 ProTekk: dude i love freehold Aug 28 03:15:39 It doesn't get much whiter without being a viking. Aug 28 03:15:46 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ns-kXeQCMk <-- ninja please Aug 28 03:15:51 neer2005, GOOD! Aug 28 03:15:53 sup SamCripp Aug 28 03:15:54 There is no such thing jews anymore Aug 28 03:15:54 took the test really quickly and got one of the highest scores the county has ever seen Aug 28 03:15:57 Zionist exist Aug 28 03:16:03 And edlin where in brooklyn my parents live in Flatbush Aug 28 03:16:04 i definitely regret not graduating high school Aug 28 03:16:06 white like flour Aug 28 03:16:10 jews != Zionist Aug 28 03:16:11 vistazifta Williamsburg. Aug 28 03:16:24 marlboro's like 60 jewish, 8 sq miles or whatnot Aug 28 03:16:27 time to go to giant! Aug 28 03:16:27 vista: You know you spelled "hispanic" wrong two times in one sentence. Aug 28 03:16:29 Go back to school. Aug 28 03:16:35 Ice_Black I'm not a Zionist, if you thought I was and lived in Williamsburg, you got to be kidding. Aug 28 03:16:46 my town = mostly korean and hispanic Aug 28 03:17:00 you literally have day laborers in front of korean stores Aug 28 03:17:01 hahah Ninja Pay yo Bills Aug 28 03:17:28 It's the damn autocorrect Aug 28 03:17:49 And so edlin u ere chassidish? Aug 28 03:17:53 You using an iPhone? Aug 28 03:17:55 No, autocorrect did not do that. Aug 28 03:17:56 vistazifta yes, breslov Aug 28 03:18:20 Yea it's the swype port then Aug 28 03:18:21 so gnome just shit itself Aug 28 03:18:26 shit, I'm in one of two majority minority states Aug 28 03:18:33 dam the chatter in here is giving me a headache Aug 28 03:18:33 4,000 homes in Freehold w/o power Aug 28 03:18:33 fuck Aug 28 03:18:33 im fucked Aug 28 03:18:33 :( Aug 28 03:18:33 TETHERING TO THE RESCUE! Aug 28 03:18:36 It killed my iPhone keyboard Aug 28 03:18:51 giant tether face Aug 28 03:19:07 gnome3 eat my ass, but gawd your pretty Aug 28 03:19:14 ProTekk when I lose power, don't think I'll tether, that nukes batteries and I might need the batteries for an emergency. Aug 28 03:19:46 EdLin, i has generator :) Aug 28 03:19:52 70 gallon gas tank as well Aug 28 03:20:04 ProTekk I have a UPS, but it will only last a few minutes. Aug 28 03:20:13 ProTekk: i dont have a gen im fuckedd Aug 28 03:20:21 didn't know you could hook a gen set up to your doublewide ProTekk Aug 28 03:20:25 Rhcp would prob rather us get back on topic eh? Aug 28 03:20:26 haha, the generator is in our motorhome :3 Aug 28 03:20:39 There's a topic? Aug 28 03:20:42 Sid69, we actually do own a motorhome lol Aug 28 03:20:47 Damon Challenger Aug 28 03:20:50 heh Aug 28 03:20:58 it's no pussy trailer Aug 28 03:21:04 when you marrying the chick with the big titties? Aug 28 03:21:06 Lakewood has a generator lending society lol Aug 28 03:21:07 vistazifta: Yea, but i dont know where tmz was. im looking though his home Aug 28 03:21:11 he may have cleared the screen Aug 28 03:21:20 trying to sort though Aug 28 03:21:38 Is his nick online? Aug 28 03:21:39 why does it take so fucking long to unpack stuff after an apt-get! Aug 28 03:21:47 yea but hes onot on Aug 28 03:21:50 rhcp: Quick question: Why aren't you in #puredev? Aug 28 03:21:51 prob eating. or out Aug 28 03:21:59 oldtopman: dono Aug 28 03:22:04 they want to talk welcome to join Aug 28 03:22:11 And do u have access to his machine? Aug 28 03:22:13 oic Aug 28 03:22:16 vistazifta: hes on mine Aug 28 03:22:21 hes a trusted friend Aug 28 03:22:48 Oh sounds like u should have all his logs like u said unless he cleared them Aug 28 03:22:58 Selecting... unpacking... rebuilding... setting up... processing... Aug 28 03:23:00 Yea i need to look we got like 10 terms open Aug 28 03:23:01 can i have OP? Aug 28 03:23:01 :) Aug 28 03:23:01 * tusing_ sighs Aug 28 03:23:02 But they can still be in the cache Aug 28 03:23:16 nigga be trippin' Aug 28 03:23:42 protekk, just lost power for a minute, logging off before something is dmged Aug 28 03:23:48 Toxinate, peace man Aug 28 03:23:49 gl Aug 28 03:24:03 I'd offer to look in my logs but everytme mu iPhone disconnects me I lose everything lol Aug 28 03:24:11 tusing_, stop using n00buntu, issue solved Aug 28 03:25:08 and if you say youll move onto mint ill cut ya Aug 28 03:26:18 nice to see on topic lol Aug 28 03:27:30 I'm installing Ubuntu right now. Aug 28 03:27:47 Just to mess with it in a virtual machine though. Will probably find something more server-streamlined for later. Aug 28 03:29:15 Ok, so say I have a compiled kernel. How are we pushing it to the TP? Aug 28 03:30:43 Flatspin, novacom boot mem:// < /path/to/image Aug 28 03:31:01 Ok, thanks. Aug 28 03:31:04 np Aug 28 03:32:23 so what happened here the other day? Aug 28 03:32:30 w00t! Aug 28 03:32:31 Image Name: Linux-2.6.35.10-palm-tenderloin Aug 28 03:32:31 Created: Sat Aug 27 23:27:52 2011 Aug 28 03:32:31 Image Type: ARM Linux Kernel Image (uncompressed) Aug 28 03:32:31 Data Size: 3336020 Bytes = 3257.83 kB = 3.18 MB Aug 28 03:32:31 Load Address: 40208000 Aug 28 03:32:34 Entry Point: 40208000 Aug 28 03:32:36 Image arch/arm/boot/uImage is ready Aug 28 03:32:59 Don't go there, touchedriodo. :) Aug 28 03:33:01 ProTein: nice! Aug 28 03:33:07 GJ ProTekk Aug 28 03:33:20 ProTekk: nice!!!! Aug 28 03:33:35 fucking painful compiling all this on a netbook lol Aug 28 03:33:43 single core Atom Aug 28 03:33:43 How far does the boot go? Past the unpackaging screen? Aug 28 03:33:45 >_> Aug 28 03:33:49 time to sit back with mah TP and watch the rain (porn) Aug 28 03:33:50 hehe Aug 28 03:33:51 vistazifta, mine? Aug 28 03:33:53 ProTekk: im on my netbook also haha Aug 28 03:33:54 ProTekk, nice! Is it a webos kernel or an Android one? Aug 28 03:33:58 hehe Aug 28 03:34:04 lol omg compiling ion a netbook makes me want to try anal sex Aug 28 03:34:19 Yea protekk? Aug 28 03:34:23 I'm on a mid 07 iMac c2d, 2GB ram…anything sucks on it Aug 28 03:34:26 Anal sex is pretty awesome. Aug 28 03:34:36 vistazifta, boots Aug 28 03:34:38 i7 over here Aug 28 03:34:39 webos kern Aug 28 03:34:44 woot Aug 28 03:34:48 ProTekk, get a real buildbox pl0x Aug 28 03:34:49 sweet Aug 28 03:34:50 wait wat Aug 28 03:34:52 i cut ya Aug 28 03:34:53 How far? Aug 28 03:35:01 dougpiston, fuck you...bad weather and im not going home Aug 28 03:35:05 vistazifta, fully working Aug 28 03:35:07 minus wifi Aug 28 03:35:14 DarkRedFlame: I built my friend's PC - i7 2.6Ghz, 16GB ram, 2 250GB SSD, 1 TB, don't remember the graphics card Aug 28 03:35:16 EVBE Aug 28 03:35:20 EVERYTHING GOES FAST Aug 28 03:35:28 ProTekk, wher are you? Aug 28 03:35:34 north? Aug 28 03:35:39 dougpiston, north east Aug 28 03:35:44 kk Aug 28 03:35:44 at the womans house Aug 28 03:35:47 you good Aug 28 03:35:49 very cool ProTekk.. Aug 28 03:35:51 her house is down the road from me lol Aug 28 03:35:55 lmao Aug 28 03:35:56 just dont feel like going home Aug 28 03:36:03 funny thougjh Aug 28 03:36:04 Does she know about your other woman? ;) Aug 28 03:36:09 sperman: i7 4.0 GHz 16gb ram 2 580s Aug 28 03:36:12 * siestacat 's tp is backed up and ready to be bricked by hair_brained android developers Aug 28 03:36:14 im at your womens house Aug 28 03:36:19 what guy are you? Aug 28 03:36:22 DarkRedFlame: holy shit Aug 28 03:36:40 sperman: its for gaming Aug 28 03:36:41 I've got almost the same Dark... minus 4 gigs of RAM Aug 28 03:36:47 DarkRedFlame: so is my friend's Aug 28 03:36:49 16 isn't overkill? :P Aug 28 03:36:59 nothing is overkill :) Aug 28 03:37:04 lol Aug 28 03:37:07 Tis true. Aug 28 03:37:11 I'm just on a nice Phenom II X6 1090T with 12G. Fast enough for me. :) Aug 28 03:37:13 I work for a isp Aug 28 03:37:13 I'm only a core i5 8 gigs Aug 28 03:37:16 My laptop is quicker though. Aug 28 03:37:22 and putting it together is fun - my first homebuilt machine Aug 28 03:37:29 I get most comp parts for free Aug 28 03:37:34 how? Aug 28 03:37:38 work pays for them Aug 28 03:37:47 ProTekk, I have a persist.img you can try for wifi. Aug 28 03:38:07 1055T @ 4 GHz, 8 GB RAM @ 1888, Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3, AMD Radeon 6870...custom watercooling + custom made waterblocks for everything Aug 28 03:38:11 thats my main box Aug 28 03:38:20 Not bad. Aug 28 03:38:24 I'm out - I already killed a laptop drive yesterday, don't want to kill my desktop when the power goes out Aug 28 03:38:30 time to use the TP :) Aug 28 03:38:39 I'm the main tech guy for centurylink in the Boise branch office Aug 28 03:38:49 power LOSS doesnt cause dead hardware Aug 28 03:38:56 ProTekk did u boot into android with working touchscreen? Aug 28 03:38:57 its power FAILURE that causes dead hardware Aug 28 03:39:00 It's the surge accompanying it. Aug 28 03:39:02 sperman: howd u kill a laptop drive when power went out ? Aug 28 03:39:13 not from power, my batt died when i booted Aug 28 03:39:16 it was a strange problem Aug 28 03:39:23 where do i get the drivers to hook up my TP to my comp Aug 28 03:39:39 I'm using a d945gclf2 dual core atom board while my modest i7-860 @ 3.8ghz is out of commision... a lot if the time my touchpad is genuinely faster than my desktop, lol Aug 28 03:39:39 google? Aug 28 03:39:46 billybob_, my shit was recognized automatically Aug 28 03:39:51 sdk Aug 28 03:39:52 you're doin' it wrong, son. Aug 28 03:39:57 billybob_: google or windows will do it automatically Aug 28 03:40:04 fuuuuckkk Aug 28 03:40:09 brb, smoke break guys Aug 28 03:40:12 jmhalder your desktop must suck Aug 28 03:40:21 the webos browser sucks donkey balls Aug 28 03:40:26 I'm old enough that I don't need my PC to be insanely fast, I just want it to be solid. And my laptop is more powerful. :P Aug 28 03:40:37 Well, except video. 5870 rocks. Aug 28 03:40:40 woooo... I might go get some nicotine also Aug 28 03:41:02 my i7 rocks, my atom 330 sucks balls Aug 28 03:41:16 Any news on the port? Aug 28 03:41:28 nhat how does the browser suck? Aug 28 03:41:28 I'm outa smokes Aug 28 03:41:35 been working well for me Aug 28 03:41:35 my gigabyte ga-p55-ud3 took a dump Aug 28 03:42:02 @jmhalder MINE DID TOO!!! Aug 28 03:42:06 that's what you get for going gb Aug 28 03:42:31 I don't think the 3.8ghz oc helped it much, lol Aug 28 03:42:47 i miss the optical out though... had to go with the evga x58 Aug 28 03:43:31 If you guys need a graphic designer for Splash screens and rom themes i'm your man! Aug 28 03:43:37 My iPhone crapped out again Aug 28 03:43:45 thats what you get for going apple Aug 28 03:44:08 It was a company fone Aug 28 03:44:09 lol Aug 28 03:44:13 I didn't pay for it Aug 28 03:45:01 Id rather webos to iOS although I prefer android Aug 28 03:45:41 iOS has great apps i can't even lie... but its so restrictive its like having big brother watching over you Aug 28 03:45:53 LOL Aug 28 03:45:59 true Aug 28 03:46:01 people are so fucking dumb Aug 28 03:46:16 sheep is a better word Aug 28 03:46:20 Nah the jailbeaking community has been pretty nice to me Aug 28 03:46:26 SubZeroLD: @jbruchon wands a splash animation for his project Aug 28 03:46:27 someone in this room just pm me and said for a dev ive hardly done anything to help tp Aug 28 03:46:34 i dont have a device folks Aug 28 03:46:37 sorry Aug 28 03:46:50 that's cool Aug 28 03:46:55 you should get one! Aug 28 03:46:55 where you at SamCripp u can borrow my pos Aug 28 03:46:56 oh wait Aug 28 03:47:05 puerto rico Aug 28 03:47:14 And I used it mostly for a test of the company products but the company bought on my name so it's mine Aug 28 03:47:26 @oldtopman & @jbruchon SubZeroLD@gmail.com is where u can contact me Aug 28 03:47:29 Aug 28 03:47:29 you fake DEV Aug 28 03:47:29 you dont do shitt Aug 28 03:47:29 lol Aug 28 03:47:29 ima post you Aug 28 03:47:32 hate him hate him Aug 28 03:47:37 xD Aug 28 03:47:56 i really do hate you neer2005 Aug 28 03:48:01 you woudnt even have a tp Aug 28 03:48:05 if i dint tell you Aug 28 03:48:07 @SamCripp sorry i'd never get it back from PR lol Aug 28 03:48:10 lmfao sCr|pTiC- Aug 28 03:48:11 how many you got now? Aug 28 03:48:14 Welcome back tmzt_ Aug 28 03:48:15 SamCripp: * Aug 28 03:48:29 SubZeroLD, i would mostlikely brick it Aug 28 03:48:36 neer2005? Aug 28 03:48:37 Rhcp was here and want to talk to u Aug 28 03:48:37 SamCripp: so far only 1 out of 5, would have been 7 but barnes canceled 2 Aug 28 03:48:42 we are chatting Aug 28 03:48:43 its cool Aug 28 03:48:44 :)t Aug 28 03:48:45 thx Aug 28 03:48:47 sCr|pTiC-: sry wrong person xD Aug 28 03:48:50 np Aug 28 03:48:56 Cool keep us posted :) Aug 28 03:49:09 we will Aug 28 03:49:11 i hope i can get just 1 more the my wife, neer2005 :P Aug 28 03:49:14 neer2005, i hate you Aug 28 03:49:15 Thnk Aug 28 03:49:24 so what wall are we at on this port? Aug 28 03:49:29 rhcp, let me know if you come up on any please :) Aug 28 03:49:29 back Aug 28 03:49:34 we;ll see Aug 28 03:49:34 replug it again Aug 28 03:49:35 SamCripp: love ya too Aug 28 03:49:35 wb Aug 28 03:49:42 neighbor has the right idea Aug 28 03:49:46 i gave you some +o <3'ing protekk Aug 28 03:49:52 neer2005, next ninja is desing to brick your atrix Aug 28 03:49:53 * EliteTek humps Aug 28 03:49:56 you just watch Aug 28 03:49:59 SamCripp: lmfao Aug 28 03:50:03 sitting at the front door watching the storm with a bottle of jack Aug 28 03:50:05 smart man Aug 28 03:50:08 EliteTek, ty Aug 28 03:50:10 im still running 4.6 SamCripp Aug 28 03:50:13 rhcp: replug Aug 28 03:50:17 amazn batt life Aug 28 03:50:17 k Aug 28 03:50:20 its at 4.7 Aug 28 03:50:24 and ready to be posted Aug 28 03:50:26 to DD or not to DD Aug 28 03:50:28 Don't be afraid of the dark or My idiot brother? Which should i see tonight? Aug 28 03:50:32 it's not there Aug 28 03:50:33 done Aug 28 03:50:39 What a brotha gotta do to port this pos Aug 28 03:50:39 SamCripp, you never got back to me Aug 28 03:50:44 tmzt_: replugged Aug 28 03:50:45 anybody/anybody have android gadget working on any kernel? Aug 28 03:50:46 oh and neer2005 i got ninjatop ready aswell Aug 28 03:50:53 i'd like to test something SamCripp :) Aug 28 03:50:58 nicely doneee Aug 28 03:51:02 ProTekk hes one smart man Aug 28 03:51:06 ProTekk, sorry i was talking about my atrix rom Aug 28 03:51:07 i havent even opened webtob yet lol Aug 28 03:51:21 anybody/anybody have android gadget working on any kernel? Aug 28 03:51:26 guys topic Aug 28 03:51:27 finally after building the whole froyo did i track down the graphics problem Aug 28 03:51:33 i have it working Aug 28 03:51:38 the issue is in the board file Aug 28 03:51:39 nice Aug 28 03:51:43 craptain: patch? Aug 28 03:51:43 read board_q... Aug 28 03:52:07 a8x60_surf? Aug 28 03:52:13 oh Aug 28 03:52:18 it's the devinfo Aug 28 03:52:24 well what kernel are you based off of? Aug 28 03:52:28 I haven't done this in almost a year Aug 28 03:52:30 Outage information not currently available. Aug 28 03:52:30 Please try later. Aug 28 03:52:35 think their site is hammered? Aug 28 03:52:41 craptain: we are using the base HP kernel Aug 28 03:52:43 with patches Aug 28 03:52:44 the graphics problem was simply not being root Aug 28 03:53:05 ProTekk, powerless? Aug 28 03:53:06 permissions on the kgsl device? Aug 28 03:53:07 and a few config changes Aug 28 03:53:12 can a baker hughes engineer like myself help in anyway... im tired of not being able to have icons on my desktop lol Aug 28 03:53:12 SamCripp, not atm Aug 28 03:53:14 those are usually overrideen in init.rc Aug 28 03:53:20 ah Aug 28 03:53:35 *edit webOS top Aug 28 03:54:02 it's weird, it's the same init.rc Aug 28 03:54:13 and the kgsl files are chmod 777 Aug 28 03:54:21 are you talking about the test image? Aug 28 03:54:23 but if i setuid 1000, it doesn't work Aug 28 03:54:23 rhcp, im out for now...text me or whatever if you guys come up with something good ;) Aug 28 03:54:34 android overrides some of that stuff Aug 28 03:54:40 in the permissions model Aug 28 03:54:43 it's in the kernel Aug 28 03:54:47 or it might be checking if current has uid 0 Aug 28 03:54:50 that's the issue Aug 28 03:54:57 I know, I mean in the kernel Aug 28 03:55:16 ProTekk: will do Aug 28 03:55:23 rhcp, tyvm Aug 28 03:55:30 np Aug 28 03:55:36 g'night for now guys Aug 28 03:55:37 bbl Aug 28 03:55:40 l8r Aug 28 03:56:17 craptain: are you saying that the platform_device needs to have the android funciton ini it? Aug 28 03:59:23 or should I enable the composite device and add android gadget to it? Aug 28 04:00:36 hah Aug 28 04:00:53 a big branch fell right as soon as i drove past it Aug 28 04:00:59 i was probably 10-15 feet away when it dropped Aug 28 04:01:42 where you at xust? Aug 28 04:02:53 okay i chmodded the world 777 Aug 28 04:02:57 and no luck Aug 28 04:03:58 devices-tenderloin Aug 28 04:04:09 craptain: look int the kernel for a current->uid check Aug 28 04:04:16 in the driver you're working with Aug 28 04:05:14 tmzt_: you see your pm? Aug 28 04:05:40 lead by example Aug 28 04:05:59 wasting your time Aug 28 04:06:03 but :) Aug 28 04:06:45 I can't find the composite gadget config Aug 28 04:06:49 craptain? Aug 28 04:06:58 yo rhcp, hurry your ass up, your taking too long on this touchpad android shit, we dont have all day ya bum Aug 28 04:07:04 :) Aug 28 04:07:07 XD Aug 28 04:07:28 brewmasta: fly your ass here and fix up my shit Aug 28 04:07:29 you got it Aug 28 04:07:30 :P Aug 28 04:07:33 hahahaha Aug 28 04:07:36 whats wrong noww Aug 28 04:07:40 engine blow up? Aug 28 04:07:48 rhcp: What's with all the numbahs after your twitter name? Aug 28 04:08:00 i think thats zip code Aug 28 04:08:07 oldtopman: shrug Aug 28 04:08:41 or mebbee not Aug 28 04:09:08 man i know this is not dev related but i just ate some crab filled wonton's, awwww ya Aug 28 04:09:13 foodz Aug 28 04:09:51 Whooo Hooo. Have the WebOS kernel compiling now.... Aug 28 04:09:56 Ya, I know... I'm behind... Aug 28 04:10:05 :o Aug 28 04:10:07 fail Aug 28 04:10:10 ;P Aug 28 04:10:12 took me awhile to get the cross compiler stuff setup Aug 28 04:10:35 why compiling WebOS kernel? Aug 28 04:10:42 what you trying to do Aug 28 04:10:53 we should just add adb to rockhopper Aug 28 04:10:54 and be done Aug 28 04:11:13 sounds good to me Aug 28 04:11:36 but we still need serial no? Aug 28 04:11:40 Ice_Black, just make sure the base compiles cleanly before modifying it. Aug 28 04:11:59 let me see how this has changed since trout Aug 28 04:12:14 I hate the vid/pid thing for these different composite devices, thanks windows Aug 28 04:12:34 we can put adb on a serial port Aug 28 04:12:42 it's the same thing Aug 28 04:12:46 ah ok Aug 28 04:12:50 didnt know you could do that Aug 28 04:13:11 usb is just bulk and interrupt (mice mostly) endpoints Aug 28 04:13:14 thought you neede to enable it. then attach inside the device vis screen or something Aug 28 04:13:31 or via usb screen again Aug 28 04:13:32 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=u2L58R5U Aug 28 04:13:35 no, basically rebuilding the android composite stuff Aug 28 04:13:42 don't say the craptain never gave you anything :P Aug 28 04:14:07 i believe it'll work on the webos kernel Aug 28 04:14:36 okay, that looks great Aug 28 04:14:41 lets try it Aug 28 04:14:42 and find out Aug 28 04:14:47 thanks craptain Aug 28 04:14:53 and you can ignore my fucking with the fb Aug 28 04:14:59 it doesn't fix anything Aug 28 04:15:13 you changed the multiple and it didn't work? Aug 28 04:15:22 turns out that aosp recovery doesn't care Aug 28 04:15:30 we should be able to merge the minui into cwm Aug 28 04:15:38 i have android working Aug 28 04:15:43 just without hw accel gfx Aug 28 04:15:47 right Aug 28 04:15:49 cool Aug 28 04:15:51 on you tp? Aug 28 04:15:56 yea Aug 28 04:15:59 good Aug 28 04:16:05 how about drivers? Aug 28 04:16:11 touchscreen works :) Aug 28 04:16:18 good Aug 28 04:16:26 Wifi? Aug 28 04:16:27 what kernel? Aug 28 04:16:34 but the screen is still really messed up Aug 28 04:16:35 craptain, did you build your own version or is it using the dump? Aug 28 04:16:35 the msm one Aug 28 04:16:40 my kernel Aug 28 04:16:44 dump system Aug 28 04:16:54 though i'm going to replace the system shortly Aug 28 04:18:56 neer2005, ninja v0.4.7 quadrant score 4,135 Aug 28 04:19:00 woops Aug 28 04:19:03 wrong window Aug 28 04:22:18 holy trinity detected, get ready to rumble... Aug 28 04:22:57 :0 Aug 28 04:24:16 rhcp: bootie Aug 28 04:24:21 the more I play with the TP, the more I wish it had android. Hating the lack of decent apps for this thing Aug 28 04:24:22 k Aug 28 04:24:48 bootie Aug 28 04:24:49 really wish I knew how to help progression more. Aug 28 04:25:10 -22 Aug 28 04:25:12 better Aug 28 04:25:20 craptain: can you share final .config? Aug 28 04:25:59 crap is DIAG adb? Aug 28 04:26:04 or is DIAG qualcom diag? Aug 28 04:26:16 qcdiag Aug 28 04:26:16 ok Aug 28 04:26:55 shall i try to replug? Aug 28 04:27:06 yeah Aug 28 04:27:18 done Aug 28 04:27:30 same Aug 28 04:27:35 my aop is dead, makes me sad in the face. Aug 28 04:27:43 also nicely done craptain Aug 28 04:27:46 aop? Aug 28 04:27:50 auto op Aug 28 04:27:53 ah Aug 28 04:28:01 meh Aug 28 04:28:11 craptain, what have you done so far? Aug 28 04:28:19 he gave us a nice patch Aug 28 04:28:28 GREEN Aug 28 04:28:34 holly fireballs Aug 28 04:28:37 :) Aug 28 04:28:45 excellent Aug 28 04:28:46 ;) Aug 28 04:28:47 there's a conflict between the msm driver and the craptain stuff Aug 28 04:28:48 I think Aug 28 04:28:48 h0h0h0h0h Aug 28 04:29:00 also, craptain says he has fbdev android working Aug 28 04:29:03 green--: we could use your knerel ninja Aug 28 04:29:03 :) Aug 28 04:29:06 if you got time Aug 28 04:29:07 ;) Aug 28 04:29:13 craptain: with touchscreen? Aug 28 04:29:28 rhcp: If it's related to the android binary kernel, my binary kernel patching foo is not all that great :( Aug 28 04:29:35 nah Aug 28 04:29:36 src Aug 28 04:29:40 we are not fucking with dumps Aug 28 04:30:20 rhcp: so what's the problem then? Aug 28 04:30:23 craptain: touchscreen is working? Aug 28 04:30:31 trsohmers: he said yes 3 times Aug 28 04:30:42 Just confirming Aug 28 04:30:51 http://i54.tinypic.com/ztvyi0.jpg Aug 28 04:30:55 * green-- is interested in replicating the running dump too, so I hope there are some instructions somewhere Aug 28 04:31:08 Has it crashed from running out of memory yet? Aug 28 04:31:22 why would it run out of memory? Aug 28 04:31:35 green--: we are not focusing on those dumps at all Aug 28 04:31:35 atm Aug 28 04:31:44 some are Aug 28 04:31:47 but i think its useless Aug 28 04:31:56 fuck tp Aug 28 04:31:59 ima get drums Aug 28 04:32:00 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nxyb66dvCX8 Aug 28 04:32:05 rhcp: I know, but since craptain got it fully running, I am interested in that, as that should clear some of my driver worries Aug 28 04:32:18 the drivers you can pull from the img's Aug 28 04:32:19 if needed Aug 28 04:32:23 no need to boot it Aug 28 04:32:36 sup slayher Aug 28 04:32:43 rhcp: not the kernel ones. That kernel in the dump is totally different source than the webos kernel if you don't know it. Aug 28 04:32:51 i do know Aug 28 04:32:51 :P Aug 28 04:32:57 we are using the webos Aug 28 04:33:00 not qual's Aug 28 04:33:04 or auroa Aug 28 04:34:17 Manishma Tzvi Aug 28 04:34:27 nice shotnguys Aug 28 04:34:49 craptain: you high again? Aug 28 04:35:05 rhcp: bootie Aug 28 04:35:07 rhcp: anyway what was your question again? Aug 28 04:35:07 k Aug 28 04:35:34 green--: I just got back from dinner Aug 28 04:35:37 tmzt_: knows more :) Aug 28 04:35:38 ould be an easy fix Aug 28 04:35:45 alot has moved forward so it seems Aug 28 04:35:47 tmzt_: bootie i sup Aug 28 04:36:18 you guys on neowin news Aug 28 04:36:22 replug Aug 28 04:36:39 Vistazifta yishtabach shmo Aug 28 04:36:43 done Aug 28 04:36:44 http://www.neowin.net/news/more-touchpads-on-the-way-next-to-no-progress-on-android-port Aug 28 04:37:07 heh Aug 28 04:37:10 nothing Aug 28 04:37:15 craptain: config? Aug 28 04:37:24 Just makin sure ur another yid Tzvi Aug 28 04:37:43 Yup :-) Aug 28 04:38:55 CONFIG_USB_MSM_OTG_72K=y Aug 28 04:38:55 # CONFIG_MSM_OTG_ENABLE_A_WAIT_BCON_TIMEOUT is not set Aug 28 04:38:56 # CONFIG_USB_MSM_ACA is not set Aug 28 04:39:10 is taht wrong? we had the default gadget (empty storage device) working fine Aug 28 04:39:54 wrong for what? I have same stuff in my kernel config Aug 28 04:39:55 craptain: ? Aug 28 04:40:05 tmzt_: lets post ours Aug 28 04:40:08 maybe green can look Aug 28 04:40:32 it's not on in tenderloin_defconfig Aug 28 04:40:35 this is weird Aug 28 04:40:49 it might be a conflict taht's not in the board craptain is using Aug 28 04:40:53 his patch looks right Aug 28 04:42:07 stop trolling Aug 28 04:42:11 tmzt_, mind sending said patch my way? Aug 28 04:42:17 hrm Aug 28 04:42:38 when are we getting the android on hp bois ? Aug 28 04:42:56 yesterday? Aug 28 04:42:56 whatupson: no ETA Aug 28 04:43:00 #1 rule Aug 28 04:43:01 never. Go away. Aug 28 04:43:06 rhcp: well hello again Aug 28 04:43:10 hey rmk :) Aug 28 04:43:10 /kb whatupson Rule #1?? No ETAS.. Aug 28 04:43:18 * Raio Pimp Slaps whatupson Aug 28 04:43:27 myn: you speak Aug 28 04:43:28 :) Aug 28 04:43:37 ;) Aug 28 04:43:41 they have given up on touchdroid. Working on nook instead. Aug 28 04:43:52 .... Aug 28 04:44:01 looool Aug 28 04:44:01 shhh Aug 28 04:44:07 oh its working Aug 28 04:44:09 ;P Aug 28 04:44:12 ?!?!?! Aug 28 04:44:12 sort of Aug 28 04:44:17 adb isn't enabled Aug 28 04:44:23 so there's no config Aug 28 04:44:25 configs Aug 28 04:44:41 Smith7018: it's in the chat log Aug 28 04:44:47 pastebin from craptain Aug 28 04:44:56 hows craptain doing? get the touchscreen working? Aug 28 04:45:57 craptain, did Aug 28 04:46:06 sweetness. lol Aug 28 04:46:14 hmm. I don't seem to see it Aug 28 04:46:15 so how's it looking boys? Aug 28 04:46:23 i wonder if /persist fix it as i anticipated, or the missing juices where elsewhere Aug 28 04:46:24 you will know when we do Aug 28 04:46:47 ah, nvm, found it :) Aug 28 04:46:49 rhcp and I are working on cwm recovery Aug 28 04:46:50 not android Aug 28 04:46:59 tmzt_: yea? Aug 28 04:47:01 craptain is making good progress there Aug 28 04:47:13 id love to see the .config Aug 28 04:47:18 see if it does anything for us here Aug 28 04:47:34 I think I know what it is Aug 28 04:47:35 i love craptain i srsly have a hard on for him, he needs to tell me what state he lives on so i can go smoke out with him Aug 28 04:47:39 have to get it to default adb on Aug 28 04:47:48 Maybe put the no progress or eta discussions in the topic Aug 28 04:47:55 not cause he is making it work Aug 28 04:48:01 only cause he works like me Aug 28 04:48:02 stone Aug 28 04:48:07 you want to have his baby samcripp Aug 28 04:48:19 ye Aug 28 04:48:20 yes Aug 28 04:48:27 his blunt baby Aug 28 04:48:27 lol Aug 28 04:48:37 rhcp +o Aug 28 04:49:32 http://briefmobile.com/android-port-for-touchpad-progresses-with-custom-recovery Aug 28 04:50:35 btw rhcp next picture, please clean the fingerprints of the screen you dirty hippy Aug 28 04:50:52 and work on that flash glare ;) Aug 28 04:50:53 SamCripp: im waiting on my shit Aug 28 04:51:00 do we just need adb=1? Aug 28 04:51:01 case / screen protector Aug 28 04:51:02 etc Aug 28 04:51:09 +1 kennethpenn Aug 28 04:52:01 that screenshot must mean something to Android folks - all I see is a white flash and some purple dots ;) Aug 28 04:52:19 Fnj00 thanks that site should keep ppl happy Aug 28 04:52:25 Happy* Aug 28 04:52:37 rwhitby, its the clockwork recovery Aug 28 04:52:43 It is Clockwork MOD recovery -- http://www.linux-mobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/ClockworkMod-200x300.png Aug 28 04:52:51 pretty much a method of installation for roms and other mods Aug 28 04:53:08 very. That is awesome. Aug 28 04:53:09 Pretty much the starting point for many godly Android adventures. Aug 28 04:53:17 yeah, I'm familiar. just being facetious ;) Aug 28 04:53:18 •vistazifta• they keep pulling it from the topic, it should be all thats needed in the topic lol Aug 28 04:53:24 vista, i missed the link will you repost? Aug 28 04:53:28 rwhitby, lol Aug 28 04:53:53 aduinutt: http://touchdroid.isitreadyyet.info Aug 28 04:54:08 lol thanks Aug 28 04:54:18 that is awesome Aug 28 04:54:23 we need a bot in here Aug 28 04:54:42 Audi its in the topic for future reference Aug 28 04:54:43 !status Aug 28 04:55:34 rhcp is snorting lines of ajax, its only a matter of days before its ready, that improves his mental cognition Aug 28 04:55:57 ah the old can't mount e: Aug 28 04:55:58 classic. Aug 28 04:56:01 * seasnake4 slips some jquery under the table for rhcp to consume Aug 28 04:56:05 is rhcp still accepting donations? Aug 28 04:56:22 so if the recovery is running that should mean it will be ready fairly quickly yes? Aug 28 04:56:24 rhcp: bootie Aug 28 04:56:28 k Aug 28 04:56:29 •Dawson-• donations of code Aug 28 04:56:37 cranny: need working kernel Aug 28 04:56:54 gotcha Aug 28 04:56:55 recovery and clockwork are just more familiar methods for flashing kernel and eventually rom Aug 28 04:57:04 •Dawson-• also I am accepting hookers. Aug 28 04:57:12 since webos internals decided to be a bunch of dickwads Aug 28 04:57:23 clockwork is the better route than bootie where we have no help Aug 28 04:57:28 fnj00-work: haaahaha Aug 28 04:57:46 what is recovery mean to this? Aug 28 04:57:46 damage, craptain got touchscreen working Aug 28 04:57:54 display still all fubar Aug 28 04:57:56 but progress Aug 28 04:58:00 and now clockwork Aug 28 04:58:03 MrDiode: what? Aug 28 04:58:03 from rhcp Aug 28 04:58:03 ah so easier then Aug 28 04:58:09 fnj00-work: cheap hookers? Or the ones that you wine, dine, and screw? Aug 28 04:58:12 MrDiode: wi's methods don't work so well here Aug 28 04:58:22 but their research has been greatly helpful Aug 28 04:58:29 mwell tmzt_ has been a great help Aug 28 04:58:32 shit is moving right long in here Aug 28 04:58:34 couldnt have done it without him Aug 28 04:58:35 well yeah Aug 28 04:58:35 :) Aug 28 04:58:36 hmmmm Aug 28 04:58:46 exception to the rule Aug 28 04:58:50 Xavierdarkenss: preferably the ones you pay to leave. Aug 28 04:58:55 good job, guys!! Aug 28 04:59:20 hey guys Aug 28 04:59:27 lol Aug 28 04:59:39 whats happen Aug 28 04:59:47 what good news? Aug 28 04:59:48 you guys still working with the dump or entirely new? Aug 28 05:00:17 never even looked at the dump Aug 28 05:00:18 here Aug 28 05:00:24 not interested Aug 28 05:00:27 only drivers perhaps Aug 28 05:00:37 libraries too silly Aug 28 05:00:44 you need a good place to start from Aug 28 05:01:17 what good news?? Aug 28 05:01:25 none Aug 28 05:01:37 Clockwork Aug 28 05:01:54 what is Clockwork Aug 28 05:01:58 lol Aug 28 05:02:01 ol Aug 28 05:02:01 CWM Aug 28 05:02:09 lol Aug 28 05:02:21 •Ice_Black• please take your touchpad back to the store and ask for a refund. Aug 28 05:02:28 lmao Aug 28 05:02:28 please dont. Aug 28 05:02:29 no :P Aug 28 05:02:30 +1 Aug 28 05:02:30 sell it to me Aug 28 05:02:34 nooo Aug 28 05:02:36 ;) Aug 28 05:02:37 Wait Aug 28 05:02:39 lol Aug 28 05:02:40 lol Aug 28 05:02:41 Clockwork is on it now!? Aug 28 05:02:43 lol Aug 28 05:02:44 lol Aug 28 05:02:46 lol Aug 28 05:02:55 and get an iPad. Steve jobs needs more love children. Aug 28 05:02:57 atleast i can put it to good use Aug 28 05:03:04 I'd do a lmgtfy, but I'm too lazy Aug 28 05:03:09 lol Aug 28 05:03:13 more like he needs a cure for cancer Aug 28 05:03:55 he has all the money in the world but he's gonna die all the same Aug 28 05:03:57 lol @ ice black Aug 28 05:04:00 ;) Aug 28 05:04:03 google it bro Aug 28 05:04:13 fuck cancer D: Aug 28 05:04:23 yeah even just android clockwork Aug 28 05:04:31 I heard someone got cwm functional? Aug 28 05:04:33 on batt 3 hrs w/screen on, at 86 hehe Aug 28 05:04:46 i know right Aug 28 05:04:50 did damageless get his TP restored? I saw he was having some issues getting it back Aug 28 05:04:51 battery on tp is badass Aug 28 05:04:52 Raio whats funny? lol Aug 28 05:05:07 sperman, unplugged for 8 hours screen off OC'd to 1.5 GHZ battery at 100% Aug 28 05:05:23 @Ice Black, not knowing what Clockwork Mod Recovery is Aug 28 05:05:28 hahahahahahaha Aug 28 05:05:31 lol Aug 28 05:05:39 um, it probably doesn't scale up much with nothing happening, lol Aug 28 05:05:46 =P Aug 28 05:05:52 Sleazy_Martinez: idk if I should oc Aug 28 05:05:59 hp did get the internals of this thing right to say the least Aug 28 05:06:01 I haven't noticed a difference Aug 28 05:06:04 sure you should Aug 28 05:06:07 I'm still having problems with youtube Aug 28 05:06:13 youtube crashes my touchpad Aug 28 05:06:14 you should. All the cool kids are doing it. Aug 28 05:06:16 but no other flash does Aug 28 05:06:21 guys we got some dev talk going on. Aug 28 05:06:26 please keep to topic here Aug 28 05:06:32 go to #touchpad for other talk Aug 28 05:06:32 km, srry Aug 28 05:06:37 let the devs do their work Aug 28 05:06:37 thanks Aug 28 05:06:38 sorry Aug 28 05:06:59 Sleazy_Martinez: OC'd at 1.7 without charger, running all day screen not on, battery: 96% Aug 28 05:07:02 before we get all srs Aug 28 05:07:05 guys on the hurricane Aug 28 05:07:10 yeah Aug 28 05:07:11 be careful please Aug 28 05:07:13 its hitting good now Aug 28 05:07:15 shit hit me last sunday Aug 28 05:07:17 it was srs Aug 28 05:07:19 winds just picked up w/ tornados Aug 28 05:07:27 :( I'm in NJ, getting hit for the first tmie Aug 28 05:07:29 guys, if you're not a dev and can't contribute, take the talk to #touchpad Aug 28 05:07:36 in nj too Aug 28 05:07:53 rhcp is your src still pvt Aug 28 05:08:03 i know you arent doing kernel right now Aug 28 05:08:09 we still are Aug 28 05:08:13 please take hurricane chatter to #omgwtfbbqirenegtfo Aug 28 05:08:14 something is fucked Aug 28 05:08:17 no usb Aug 28 05:08:18 * TellarH2 suggests topic change to remove 'open chat' then goes back to lurking to watch dev talk. :) Aug 28 05:08:38 mputtr all chat is welcome in #touchdroid Aug 28 05:08:38 hahaha Aug 28 05:08:45 other channels are setup for dev talk. Aug 28 05:08:50 what error Aug 28 05:09:01 rhcp how can you recover if no usb? Aug 28 05:09:06 EliteTek, thank you for that. Aug 28 05:09:09 yeah, but it would be nice to see the devs do their talk here Aug 28 05:09:25 No problems, WiredNix :| Aug 28 05:09:31 they can, nobody stopping them mputtr. Aug 28 05:09:39 they switch between channels ;) Aug 28 05:09:41 so some of us can see the progress, not really to see what everyone thinks about the weather Aug 28 05:09:43 anyone get adb working? Aug 28 05:09:47 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=QchA7btB Aug 28 05:09:48 nothing wrong with keeping it cleen Aug 28 05:09:58 * AHCompy agrees... stop chatter and let the people work as I watch intensely... Aug 28 05:10:07 MrDiode: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=QchA7btB Aug 28 05:10:09 If there's a dev channel I can lurk on, that'd be cool. Just nosy and enjoying seeing the process. Aug 28 05:10:19 * AHCompy places eyes on screen Aug 28 05:10:31 all these guys must be reporters for some techie site waiting for their next lead :P Aug 28 05:10:42 lol Aug 28 05:11:00 nah, i'm just a guy waiting to see android on the tp so i can use an OS that I dont have problems with Aug 28 05:11:08 rhcp is it running through all those addresses in sequence as it fails Aug 28 05:11:21 Naw, though I wish I were. :) Aug 28 05:11:33 MrDiode: I think its our config Aug 28 05:11:54 craptain: gave us this patch Aug 28 05:11:56 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=u2L58R5U Aug 28 05:12:07 neversaw 22 before seen 84 plenty i will dig Aug 28 05:12:11 god i love craptains name. Aug 28 05:12:31 lol Aug 28 05:12:51 patch worked or not implemented yet? reading now Aug 28 05:12:59 patch has been applied Aug 28 05:13:01 + built Aug 28 05:13:21 ha Aug 28 05:13:22 .serial_number = "1234567890ABCDEF", Aug 28 05:13:22 gives usb those errors when booting into cwm + no adb Aug 28 05:13:30 what patch? any place to read on current developments? Aug 28 05:13:32 think it is due to noadb? Aug 28 05:13:42 no idea tbh Aug 28 05:13:42 fucking space bar WORK DAMNIT Aug 28 05:14:17 i fink tmzt_ is going to hax0r adbd in Aug 28 05:14:18 somewhere Aug 28 05:14:43 what about jonrys git w/ adbd in webos kernel Aug 28 05:14:45 rhcp, are you loading the usb drivers in cwm kern Aug 28 05:15:24 SamCripp: should be. its taken from nook Aug 28 05:15:30 the cwm uimage Aug 28 05:15:31 etc Aug 28 05:15:37 tmzt_: bootie is up Aug 28 05:15:39 btw Aug 28 05:15:50 so you loading nook drivers, or tp drivers Aug 28 05:15:52 shouldnt give 22 for lack of adb Aug 28 05:16:10 looking @ patch anyway Aug 28 05:16:29 regardless of boot you are gonna have to load the right modules Aug 28 05:16:43 so cyanogen has the port working? Aug 28 05:16:54 ... Aug 28 05:16:56 grrrrrr rhcp source, SOURCE, muawahahahahahahahahahaha Aug 28 05:17:06 jonpry: ? Aug 28 05:17:09 im cool if tmzt_ is Aug 28 05:17:22 rhcp Aug 28 05:17:22 we using that patch on the msm kernel then? Aug 28 05:17:23 its nothing really Aug 28 05:17:24 we haven't done anything yet Aug 28 05:17:24 fyi - same error Aug 28 05:17:26 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382265&page=578 Aug 28 05:17:35 tmzt_: thats what i keep saying Aug 28 05:17:39 its nothing special Aug 28 05:17:40 lol Aug 28 05:18:09 where is your device tree Aug 28 05:18:13 is it in git? Aug 28 05:18:25 tmzt_: The defconfig wasn't quite up to date, try enabling the rndis gadget or getting the commit I just pushed. Aug 28 05:19:21 SamCripp: take webos kernel + webos patch apply Aug 28 05:19:24 apply crapts Aug 28 05:19:27 you got what we got Aug 28 05:19:31 its nothing special Aug 28 05:19:59 so we dont have a device tree? Aug 28 05:20:15 not that im aware of. define device tree Aug 28 05:20:17 as in a git? Aug 28 05:20:32 a device tree one sec ill show you Aug 28 05:20:36 there's no fdt Aug 28 05:21:09 https://github.com/DevZombi/olympus_product_script/tree/master/olympus Aug 28 05:21:28 SamCripp: no we dont havea CM device tree Aug 28 05:21:29 my device tree for building cwm or pretty much any android for atrix Aug 28 05:21:36 is not just cm Aug 28 05:21:36 i know how it works Aug 28 05:21:41 cwm too Aug 28 05:21:44 you use that for any android compiling Aug 28 05:21:45 make recoveryimage Aug 28 05:21:49 yup Aug 28 05:21:49 etc Aug 28 05:22:03 we havent set one up Aug 28 05:22:11 k Aug 28 05:24:57 jbruchon jbruchon Aug 28 05:24:58 ANNOUNCEMENT: I've quit #touchdroid project entirely. I don't wish to be associated with the hostility in there. Plz RT Aug 28 05:25:07 heh Aug 28 05:25:11 yay Aug 28 05:25:16 :) Aug 28 05:25:18 did he ever post his sauce Aug 28 05:25:19 rhcp: This only seems to go towards you Aug 28 05:25:29 i take it no one likes him Aug 28 05:25:42 he never shared a single thing from day 1 Aug 28 05:25:51 who quit? Aug 28 05:25:52 hostility? Aug 28 05:25:52 and just caused issues Aug 28 05:25:59 jbruchon? Aug 28 05:26:01 at first i thought he was cool Aug 28 05:26:02 he never had any sauce Aug 28 05:26:07 exactly Aug 28 05:26:11 as DarkRedFlame sai Aug 28 05:26:12 d Aug 28 05:26:25 i thought u quit Aug 28 05:26:25 rhcp: I thought he had the cource to the android bin or something >.> Aug 28 05:26:31 that would be a pitty Aug 28 05:26:36 me? Aug 28 05:26:38 no Aug 28 05:26:44 dont listen to children Aug 28 05:26:51 no but someone should petition HP for that source Aug 28 05:26:55 :) Aug 28 05:26:55 they sold a device with it Aug 28 05:26:59 whats the latest status on thomas, is he still withholding Aug 28 05:26:59 why would i quit. and still be in all the chans Aug 28 05:27:01 as per GPL Aug 28 05:27:02 at leat the gralloc Aug 28 05:27:05 they have to give it Aug 28 05:27:08 30 days Aug 28 05:27:08 . Aug 28 05:27:09 MrDiode: withholding what? Aug 28 05:27:12 he was with jn Aug 28 05:27:13 good Aug 28 05:27:13 jb Aug 28 05:27:14 since it's based on aosp Aug 28 05:27:14 !! Aug 28 05:27:15 jb quit Aug 28 05:27:17 hes got 0 Aug 28 05:27:19 * AH-Compy installs new detain on tp Aug 28 05:27:20 simple Aug 28 05:27:25 I hate when people claim that they are devs went they arent Aug 28 05:27:25 :-) Aug 28 05:27:27 hence his new tweet about still working on it Aug 28 05:27:30 no eta no nada Aug 28 05:27:30 but no, most of android is not gpl Aug 28 05:27:33 he claimed it was cypress that was causing craptains issues Aug 28 05:27:34 == quit soon Aug 28 05:27:37 but refused to detail it Aug 28 05:27:39 tmzt_ KERNEL is Aug 28 05:27:45 and said he couldnt give any more info Aug 28 05:27:47 heh Aug 28 05:27:55 some of the modules no Aug 28 05:28:07 rhcp, ill set up a tree tomorrow Aug 28 05:28:11 SamCripp: cool Aug 28 05:28:12 :) Aug 28 05:28:13 atleast begin work on one Aug 28 05:28:20 anything you need hit me up Aug 28 05:28:24 I was there... said it would get his "friend" fired Aug 28 05:28:25 i can even set you up with ssh Aug 28 05:28:26 if needed Aug 28 05:28:29 i need a device to work on Aug 28 05:28:35 i actually need 2 Aug 28 05:28:41 i need to destroy one for science Aug 28 05:28:42 just no bricking it :P Aug 28 05:28:44 still living in PR? Aug 28 05:28:45 ill pay for them Aug 28 05:28:46 :P Aug 28 05:28:47 and the shipping Aug 28 05:28:52 rhcp Aug 28 05:29:00 you have a working recovery now at least correct? Aug 28 05:29:23 no Aug 28 05:29:33 its just a tri boot bootie image Aug 28 05:29:33 oh i thought you were about there Aug 28 05:29:38 its not even a correct recovery Aug 28 05:29:42 dont worry about it Aug 28 05:29:53 once we nail out adb + driver issues and other stuff Aug 28 05:29:54 but no fear no bricking now ? Aug 28 05:29:55 it will fly Aug 28 05:29:57 * mputtr is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 15 minutes Aug 28 05:30:06 the fear in bricking is NAND Aug 28 05:40:46 what is the other channel everyone is in? Aug 28 05:40:50 tmzt_: you think SamCripp is right? Aug 28 05:40:57 about the usb not working perhaps Aug 28 05:41:03 because of the drivers in that uimage for clockwork Aug 28 05:41:03 ? Aug 28 05:41:09 sounds plasable Aug 28 05:45:01 fuck my life Aug 28 05:45:05 fixed video Aug 28 05:45:20 craptain: mind pasting your config plz Aug 28 05:45:27 we are getting USB errors Aug 28 05:45:32 wonering if its config issue Aug 28 05:45:55 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtM9HczJk3g&feature=player_embedded Aug 28 05:45:58 i used a different kernel and a differnt config Aug 28 05:46:19 that won't fix the adb driver Aug 28 05:47:47 Sorry my web sux I'm back untill it crashes again Aug 28 05:58:16 tmzt_: fall asleep at pc :) Aug 28 05:58:50 how's the proyect going? Aug 28 05:59:13 getting there Aug 28 05:59:15 http://touchdroid.isitreadyyet.info Aug 28 05:59:22 or that Aug 28 05:59:22 :P Aug 28 05:59:32 I don't think he asked if it was ready yet Aug 28 05:59:48 no im here Aug 28 05:59:51 it still updates the status Aug 28 05:59:53 ah Aug 28 05:59:56 did you see my question? Aug 28 05:59:59 about what SamCripp said Aug 28 06:00:24 still not what he asked, rhcp answered correctly Aug 28 06:00:25 you think the drivers inside that clockwork (which is for nook) is using usb drivers from TI Aug 28 06:00:29 I was thinking of making a chart to put up there so ppl knowe what's done and put a name next to each part so they get their proper credit too Aug 28 06:00:34 daddylong: #puredev mostly, it's not chat just developers discussing things Aug 28 06:00:49 rhcp: no, those drivers are kernel only Aug 28 06:00:59 no, i mean inside the clockwork one Aug 28 06:01:04 SamCripp: said we need to load them frominsde there Aug 28 06:01:13 what do you mean by drivers? Aug 28 06:01:22 adbd opens the /dev/adb device Aug 28 06:01:28 which android gadget should create Aug 28 06:01:38 restarting Aug 28 06:01:41 let me go back on logs Aug 28 06:02:00 someone just bought mine on ebay for 300 Aug 28 06:02:01 lmao Aug 28 06:02:07 the problem seems to be teh default product is wrong, but the patch sets it to the last entry Aug 28 06:02:08 selling it like a boss! Aug 28 06:02:26 had faith in you guys but cash is king baby! Aug 28 06:02:27 sicne the usb config is missing no way to tell Aug 28 06:02:45 oh you mean the computer has no way to tell wtf it is? Aug 28 06:02:55 craptain: I know you used a different kernel, but the .config should help Aug 28 06:03:02 rhcp: it won't enumerate Aug 28 06:03:04 so no Aug 28 06:03:12 not sure why someone would by it at 300 considering a few weeks ago it was at 300 and no one wanted them, now that they cost nothing people want them Aug 28 06:03:22 i see. Aug 28 06:03:25 daddylong: psychology Aug 28 06:03:30 yep Aug 28 06:03:32 craptain: can you please paste your config for us Aug 28 06:03:33 exactly Aug 28 06:03:48 supply and demand is a bitch Aug 28 06:03:59 don't hate the player though, hate the game :) Aug 28 06:05:16 hmmm Aug 28 06:05:23 id love to see his config Aug 28 06:05:39 I think he's busy on gpu Aug 28 06:05:43 seems to be getting somewehre Aug 28 06:05:46 he said he got it? Aug 28 06:05:50 yes but in essence they are buying a paperweight as far as it comes to apps. Aug 28 06:05:52 a few mins ago Aug 28 06:06:18 daddylong: that might change if HP would take it seriously and promote the native app development Aug 28 06:06:33 as well as providing documentation on porting from iOS and Android Aug 28 06:06:51 yeah but to my knowledge they wont Aug 28 06:06:53 they are coded in C and java Aug 28 06:07:05 it seems easy to continue dev for webos apps Aug 28 06:07:06 tbh Aug 28 06:07:19 just need a market outside android (where devs can drop paid/free apps) Aug 28 06:07:26 c and java? Aug 28 06:07:30 Yea afaik Aug 28 06:07:38 webos apps? Aug 28 06:07:38 sorry Aug 28 06:07:39 no Aug 28 06:07:39 C or java Aug 28 06:07:44 not and Aug 28 06:07:45 :P Aug 28 06:07:49 c or html/javascript Aug 28 06:07:49 i didnt know you could use java Aug 28 06:07:54 ^ Aug 28 06:07:54 yeah. Aug 28 06:07:57 ah Aug 28 06:08:00 its javascript? Aug 28 06:08:00 ok Aug 28 06:08:01 I think you can do java plugins in 1.x Aug 28 06:08:07 rhcp: that's the 'web' part Aug 28 06:08:23 so yea, its cool. too bad its not java though Aug 28 06:08:26 id really like to write a damned Aug 28 06:08:31 it would be easy to get shit into webos Aug 28 06:08:32 googlevoice frontend. Aug 28 06:08:40 its driving me batty. Aug 28 06:08:58 jimmydoodle: webos-internals has infrastructure for this kind of stuff Aug 28 06:09:01 that's what it's about Aug 28 06:09:10 ..waitwaht Aug 28 06:09:10 anywyas i think with the way these things sold. most will keep it on webos Aug 28 06:09:11 o_o Aug 28 06:09:11 I'd be in for a few bucks, ported my number into GV yesterday Aug 28 06:09:14 and more apps will be devved Aug 28 06:09:27 im trying to dev for it Aug 28 06:09:37 and i havent touched shit since wm. Aug 28 06:09:38 lmfao Aug 28 06:10:30 tmzt_: their app store or w/e you wanna call it. doesnt support paid? does it? Aug 28 06:10:40 no, and it won't per webOS sdk Aug 28 06:10:45 but you could build one taht does Aug 28 06:10:54 thats what im thinking may/will happen Aug 28 06:10:57 or submit to HP's Aug 28 06:10:57 with all these taps Aug 28 06:10:59 tabs Aug 28 06:11:13 a "market" will be made for webos Aug 28 06:11:20 sounds logical and profitiable Aug 28 06:11:44 where is that kernel source? Aug 28 06:11:54 is it private? Aug 28 06:12:00 which? Aug 28 06:12:01 damageless: craptins we have no idea on. Aug 28 06:12:07 we told everyone how do we are doing it Aug 28 06:12:14 its just linux kernel + webos patch Aug 28 06:12:18 and few config options Aug 28 06:12:20 nothing more Aug 28 06:12:23 + craptins patch Aug 28 06:12:34 which may/may not have helped Aug 28 06:12:36 not sure tbh Aug 28 06:12:39 it will help Aug 28 06:12:41 I thought someone was working on porting android specific stuff over Aug 28 06:12:45 i want to see his config Aug 28 06:12:46 it's not integrated right Aug 28 06:18:25 the pdev is getting registered Aug 28 06:23:04 How's the dev process going? Aug 28 06:23:38 everybody who is working on it is working on it Aug 28 06:24:01 shit Aug 28 06:24:02 still -22 Aug 28 06:24:13 yeah Aug 28 06:24:27 we might not have the whole patch or I might have removed a hunk Aug 28 06:24:29 checking Aug 28 06:24:40 i was googing. those you added shoul dhave fixed it Aug 28 06:24:42 hmm Aug 28 06:24:50 yea, check patch you did delete a bunch Aug 28 06:25:28 nothing to do with usb Aug 28 06:25:40 do we have the ca kernel checked out? Aug 28 06:25:52 I know I was comparing them Aug 28 06:26:04 no. Aug 28 06:26:13 pull it into your dir. plenty of space Aug 28 06:26:15 6TB :) Aug 28 06:26:26 6? pussy. Aug 28 06:26:32 phear my 12. Aug 28 06:26:35 I don't know which one they were using Aug 28 06:26:40 OMG Aug 28 06:26:52 01:22 -!- trsohmers [~trsohmers@pool-173-76-109-165.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: trsohmers] Aug 28 06:26:58 did his momma spank him Aug 28 06:27:02 erotic Aug 28 06:27:07 rhcp: not necessary Aug 28 06:27:15 might have gone to sleep or something Aug 28 06:27:23 hes been online 24/7 :) Aug 28 06:27:29 hurricane Aug 28 06:27:32 till jb tweeted quit Aug 28 06:28:05 hey, I can have my (light) for the moment Aug 28 06:28:33 the tp? not doing anything with it Aug 28 06:28:40 is it booting cwm still just not on the usb? Aug 28 06:28:47 its in bootie Aug 28 06:29:09 this kernel thing is upsetting Aug 28 06:29:13 the pdevs are there Aug 28 06:29:26 are you sure you didnt yank anything? Aug 28 06:29:34 yeah just diffed the patches Aug 28 06:29:38 fuck hm Aug 28 06:29:39 only removed the msmfb stuff Aug 28 06:29:47 ?? Aug 28 06:29:51 no Aug 28 06:29:53 fuck hmmmm Aug 28 06:29:56 thinking Aug 28 06:30:05 oh Aug 28 06:30:06 ok Aug 28 06:30:26 you enabled rndis gadget Aug 28 06:30:29 so thats not it Aug 28 06:30:43 that what gooogle throws the -22 as Aug 28 06:30:56 rndis is in the default Aug 28 06:31:05 oh i thoght i saw you enable Aug 28 06:31:10 on last make Aug 28 06:31:11 I don't think theese functions drivers are up to date Aug 28 06:31:19 its latest Aug 28 06:31:20 since palm only uses rock Aug 28 06:31:21 afaik Aug 28 06:33:10 Anyone get this error when compiling the WebOS kernel? Aug 28 06:33:11 CC arch/arm/mach-msm/scm.o Aug 28 06:33:28 where's the error? Aug 28 06:33:32 lol Aug 28 06:33:34 beat me Aug 28 06:33:38 ….. /tmp/ccoDirTO.s:54: Error: selected processor does not support ARM mode `smc #0' Aug 28 06:33:42 LOL Aug 28 06:33:43 yes Aug 28 06:33:46 you are using the wrong tool chian Aug 28 06:33:47 chain Aug 28 06:33:52 sigh Aug 28 06:33:58 I just set up my ubuntu dev vm Aug 28 06:34:04 guess I picked the wrong one? Aug 28 06:34:11 which is the correct one to use? Aug 28 06:34:14 use codesourcery Aug 28 06:34:17 or android Aug 28 06:34:18 Smith7018: http://team-touchdroid.com/wiki/index.php?title=How_To_Make_A_Custom_Kernel Aug 28 06:34:22 have fun Aug 28 06:34:34 arm-eabi? Aug 28 06:34:35 lol Aug 28 06:34:51 yay i was right Aug 28 06:35:04 I was using the codesourcery one, but I guess it was just newer Aug 28 06:35:13 Is the one you linked me to gcc-4.5? Aug 28 06:35:20 the one i linked you works Aug 28 06:35:28 and comes from webos-internals Aug 28 06:35:38 we makin progress boys?! Aug 28 06:35:39 its pretty much what everone is using afaik Aug 28 06:36:00 trying to get USB working Aug 28 06:36:36 fucking "AudioPolicyService not published, waiting..." Aug 28 06:36:40 still not booting Aug 28 06:36:46 it was booting Aug 28 06:36:50 now this Aug 28 06:36:54 craptain: what kernel are you using? Aug 28 06:36:58 tmzt_: wants to diff Aug 28 06:36:59 i restore webos, i have audio Aug 28 06:37:10 custom or qc, doesn't matter Aug 28 06:37:14 still this error Aug 28 06:37:31 you don't have a modem Aug 28 06:37:37 might not have APS Aug 28 06:37:41 i'm here to give pointers...not solutions Aug 28 06:37:44 and need q6 driver anyway Aug 28 06:37:52 what's killer is it used to work Aug 28 06:37:57 exactly as is Aug 28 06:38:00 (i think) Aug 28 06:38:25 craptain: understandable Aug 28 06:38:36 craptain, your touchscreen works now? what changed? Aug 28 06:38:53 but you know how complex this stuff is, duplication of effort doesn't help anybody Aug 28 06:39:03 I have no desire for credit or donations for anything you did Aug 28 06:39:13 i don't care about those things either Aug 28 06:39:13 nor i Aug 28 06:39:22 let me explain Aug 28 06:39:24 we all want the same thing Aug 28 06:39:31 hehe, nope :P Aug 28 06:39:38 i just like solving puzzles Aug 28 06:39:54 if i wanted a tablet, i'd use my ipad 2 Aug 28 06:40:18 craptain: I'm working on something related to this but I'm not really looking for android on tp directly, I want to get the usb function driver to work with serial port Aug 28 06:40:26 more than adb, so I just need to add pdev Aug 28 06:40:33 but I wanted working code for this Aug 28 06:40:47 tmzt_: https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/le/ Aug 28 06:40:49 I know you have android getting there with a kernel with source Aug 28 06:41:01 rhcp: there's about 50 branches in that repo Aug 28 06:41:10 I've been through it before looking for stuff Aug 28 06:42:02 craptain: did you get gralloc working? Aug 28 06:42:14 tmzt_, the touch screen thing is going to be a big deal. everything else is pretty stupid Aug 28 06:42:33 this night fucking sucks Aug 28 06:42:42 slayher, howdy sir! Aug 28 06:42:45 compared to gpu drivers that make anything usable on an xga device in android Aug 28 06:42:50 ? Aug 28 06:42:59 lol Aug 28 06:43:01 ^^ Aug 28 06:43:05 rhcp, dude Aug 28 06:43:07 no joke Aug 28 06:43:09 shoot me now Aug 28 06:43:12 please Aug 28 06:43:12 i wasnt lol at you Aug 28 06:43:15 at tmzt_ Aug 28 06:43:22 i know but seriously, shoot me Aug 28 06:43:24 -_- Aug 28 06:43:30 tmzt_, there are libGLES drivers for other adreno 220 tablets Aug 28 06:43:32 come sign a paper ill do it for ya Aug 28 06:43:33 :P Aug 28 06:43:37 haha :P Aug 28 06:43:47 * rhcp clicks his glock 17 Aug 28 06:43:47 my basement has 8 inches of water already Aug 28 06:43:48 jonpry: doesn't mean the overlay will work Aug 28 06:43:58 or the hdmi out Aug 28 06:44:06 the woman's basement is slowly leaking but not nearly as bad Aug 28 06:44:16 and we have ~16 more hours of rain to come Aug 28 06:44:20 you know whats funny about all this storm shit Aug 28 06:44:26 everyone was calling me Aug 28 06:44:27 i have ServPro on speed dial right now Aug 28 06:44:28 OMG NC Aug 28 06:44:35 not even one single drop of rain Aug 28 06:44:37 or wind Aug 28 06:44:37 lol Aug 28 06:44:40 lmao Aug 28 06:44:43 lucky son of a bitch Aug 28 06:44:49 ive had sun all day Aug 28 06:44:53 and a nice night Aug 28 06:44:54 tmzt_, afaict the interface with the touch is nasty at least with the firmware loaded by webOS. just an async serial port that creates a minimum of 1500 bytes for every touch. its just raw adc data from a bajillion sensors Aug 28 06:44:59 fuck you, send the nice weather over here! Aug 28 06:45:02 8" of rain..jeezus Aug 28 06:45:06 jonpry: ouch Aug 28 06:45:10 neejay, where are you again? Aug 28 06:45:12 NJ right? Aug 28 06:45:19 Georgia :( Aug 28 06:45:26 ah, i swore you were in NJ Aug 28 06:45:26 finger tracking? Aug 28 06:45:27 irene has cooled the weather for us now... Aug 28 06:45:34 shoudl be able to make a mtdev for it Aug 28 06:45:39 it's a fake ass hurricane Aug 28 06:45:40 but Aug 28 06:45:44 the rain fall totals Aug 28 06:45:46 are no joke lol Aug 28 06:45:47 tmzt_, just a 20mbit data stream Aug 28 06:45:57 HAHAHHAHA! Aug 28 06:46:08 i am hurricane irene Aug 28 06:46:09 "YOU WANNA GO NIGHT NIGHT NIGGUH?! YOU WANNA GO NIGHT NIGHT?!" Aug 28 06:46:12 lmfaoooooooooooooo Aug 28 06:46:13 tmzt_: want me to clone aurora? Aug 28 06:46:31 watching kevin hart right now....funny as shit Aug 28 06:47:04 it's currently 72F here now Aug 28 06:47:13 slight breeze Aug 28 06:47:16 still like 102 here Aug 28 06:47:18 * neejay ducks Aug 28 06:47:25 45 MPH winds right now Aug 28 06:47:28 OH! Aug 28 06:47:30 AND! Aug 28 06:47:32 wtf :( Aug 28 06:47:36 my car is totally flooded Aug 28 06:47:37 so yea Aug 28 06:47:41 ffffuuuu Aug 28 06:47:42 im out of a vehicle now Aug 28 06:47:42 lol Aug 28 06:47:45 where exactly are you? Aug 28 06:47:48 seriously??!! Aug 28 06:47:55 neejay, 07728 Aug 28 06:47:56 newark nk Aug 28 06:47:57 so it seems Aug 28 06:47:59 by his ip Aug 28 06:47:59 :P Aug 28 06:48:02 nj Aug 28 06:48:09 freehold nj Aug 28 06:48:12 yerp Aug 28 06:48:15 yeah Aug 28 06:48:30 fios servers originate in newark for nj Aug 28 06:48:33 and just to add to the great night Aug 28 06:48:41 the only sump pump we have Aug 28 06:48:44 blew the fuck up Aug 28 06:48:49 :/ Aug 28 06:48:50 nice Aug 28 06:49:01 why dont you just drop a power strip into the water and step in? Aug 28 06:49:03 to finish it off Aug 28 06:49:06 :P Aug 28 06:49:10 slayher, got room to adopt one more? XD Aug 28 06:49:12 hope you dont have carpet in the basement Aug 28 06:49:23 rhcp, i'd be relieved lmao Aug 28 06:49:30 maybe Aug 28 06:49:30 :P Aug 28 06:49:32 Poison-X, my entire basement is carpeted Aug 28 06:49:39 the womans is unfinished Aug 28 06:49:43 so hers is easier Aug 28 06:49:49 i said fuck it to mine already Aug 28 06:49:51 fun Aug 28 06:49:55 claiming homeowners insurance Aug 28 06:49:56 insurance wont cover shit Aug 28 06:49:58 lol Aug 28 06:50:00 and letting ServPro deal with it Aug 28 06:50:00 good luck Aug 28 06:50:17 rhcp, our neighbor is our agent and got the all clear from her already ;) Aug 28 06:50:22 LOL Aug 28 06:50:23 nice Aug 28 06:50:24 do you have nat. dis. on your policy? Aug 28 06:50:41 this was god made Aug 28 06:50:45 we haz da supar delux mega ultra insurance policy it seems Aug 28 06:50:45 its on every policy Aug 28 06:50:53 tmzt_, theory is that if touch is working on somebodies android TP, then either there is different firmware, or a userland daemon we need to steal. so we need to find it Aug 28 06:50:56 still most dont cover it Aug 28 06:51:00 shrug Aug 28 06:51:23 bout to throw another pot of coffee on me thinks Aug 28 06:51:31 stocked up on cigarettes too Aug 28 06:51:36 picked up a carton Aug 28 06:51:38 so im set Aug 28 06:53:52 well i am stumped with the usb shit Aug 28 06:54:42 out of pocket, how much would it run just to REMOVE the water...not clean/restore...just to get it pumped out Aug 28 06:54:54 who knows Aug 28 06:55:02 go call a plumer or someone off craigslist Aug 28 06:55:02 :P Aug 28 06:55:06 rofl Aug 28 06:55:19 does this looking like #fixyourbasement Aug 28 06:55:19 lol Aug 28 06:55:26 ProTekk: no idea Aug 28 06:55:35 but I just paid $1800 on friday to fix a yard leak Aug 28 06:56:13 i cant skip work for a week to do a half ass job of removing the water and removing the water from the carpets Aug 28 06:56:17 and i cant let it sit there Aug 28 06:56:24 so im fucked no matter what way i look at it Aug 28 06:56:55 fucking shitty foundations Aug 28 06:57:00 I hate compiling kernels… I can feel myself age while I wait. Aug 28 06:57:11 Smith7018, i feel you Aug 28 06:57:12 shoudl only have to wait once Aug 28 06:57:16 compiled one on my netbook tonight Aug 28 06:57:17 heh Aug 28 06:57:26 ProTekk, I'm in a VM Aug 28 06:57:37 So you're worse, but I'm not great lol Aug 28 06:57:52 But I have 2 gigs designated to it Aug 28 06:57:53 1.2 GHz single core Atom, 512 MB RAM ;) Aug 28 06:58:00 awesome system i ahve atm Aug 28 06:58:02 :O Aug 28 06:58:15 Lawl, the TouchPad is literally faster than that Aug 28 06:58:23 no doubt Aug 28 06:58:43 even taking into account the stark differences between x86 and arm instructions! XD Aug 28 06:58:55 ohh shit this is not the fix your basement channel Aug 28 06:59:09 brewmastr, shut up lol Aug 28 06:59:40 im gonna start a channel called #rhcpbrokenbenz Aug 28 06:59:43 ;) Aug 28 07:00:32 brb time to pump more water out Aug 28 07:01:37 Would partitioning to run ubuntu theorhetically make it harder for me to get android on this thing when it's available? Aug 28 07:03:42 tmzt_: I took apart the ramdisk Aug 28 07:03:44 looking around Aug 28 07:04:09 ProTekk: by the way, we use an industrial shopvac with cheese cloth filter, takes forever but works Aug 28 07:04:14 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=fT0CTSe5 Aug 28 07:04:17 looks fine Aug 28 07:04:44 is there a repository we can get code from Aug 28 07:05:20 lots of them Aug 28 07:05:41 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=aFj3TMVm Aug 28 07:05:50 anything look amist there tmzt_ Aug 28 07:06:21 i dono what Sam was talking about Aug 28 07:06:27 there are no drivers inside at all Aug 28 07:06:30 but i had to check Aug 28 07:06:37 drivers? Aug 28 07:06:44 some usb driver he was taking about Aug 28 07:06:45 i dono Aug 28 07:06:48 i just had to look Aug 28 07:06:56 unless he means something compiled into the recovery image Aug 28 07:07:05 shrug Aug 28 07:07:13 hmm /dev/android_adb Aug 28 07:07:19 and /dev/android_adb_enable Aug 28 07:07:54 /mnt/storage/android/temp/usbrec Aug 28 07:07:57 if you want to look Aug 28 07:10:04 the kernel is just too different for android fucntion driver to work Aug 28 07:10:41 oh boy Aug 28 07:10:47 the gadget version Aug 28 07:11:10 http://ftp.maddes.net/u-boot/ Aug 28 07:11:13 this is quite cool Aug 28 07:11:14 script Aug 28 07:11:20 to rip apart uimages Aug 28 07:15:21 GOOD GUYS GOOOD Aug 28 07:16:57 tmzt_: any ideas? im out Aug 28 07:18:38 i dono what other kernel anyone else could be using except aurora Aug 28 07:18:54 and jcase told me today. via gtalk. palm released some android patch Aug 28 07:18:58 to their kernel Aug 28 07:19:03 he had no link Aug 28 07:19:16 what are you guys trying to fix? Aug 28 07:19:22 usb Aug 28 07:19:22 he's talking about the normal patches. they are based on android source from qualcomm Aug 28 07:19:31 rwhitby: are you sure? he said it was today Aug 28 07:19:40 jcase? Aug 28 07:19:40 rhcp, whats wrong with usb? Aug 28 07:19:42 yea Aug 28 07:19:51 I don't know who that is Aug 28 07:19:52 i dont think you know him Aug 28 07:20:02 rhcp: prob the 2.2.0 patches from http://opensource.palm.com/packages.html Aug 28 07:20:05 rwhitby: nothing new was relrased? Aug 28 07:20:10 i put up source for adb touchpad kernel yesterday Aug 28 07:20:14 he had told me Aug 28 07:20:19 jonpry: huh? Aug 28 07:20:22 not sure what you are trying to fix Aug 28 07:20:23 jonpry: where? Aug 28 07:20:27 where? exactly Aug 28 07:20:32 we are trying to use adb on a tenderloin kernel Aug 28 07:20:38 with minor modifications Aug 28 07:20:44 https://gitorious.org/msm-tp/msm-tp Aug 28 07:20:50 yeah i have adb working in webos Aug 28 07:21:15 cloning Aug 28 07:21:28 lol jonpry if you just fixed our problem Aug 28 07:21:30 ill LOL Aug 28 07:21:32 hard Aug 28 07:21:38 i fixed it yesterday Aug 28 07:21:40 morning Aug 28 07:21:47 jonpry: we want something basic that can be used for an initrd Aug 28 07:21:51 not a full android kernel Aug 28 07:22:01 jonpry: what is this kernel ? is it the webos one? Aug 28 07:22:05 with patches? Aug 28 07:22:07 jonpry: right, unfortunately this effort is so fractured nobody knows what's working Aug 28 07:22:18 rhcp: cloning Aug 28 07:22:23 tmzt_: nice Aug 28 07:22:26 why are you voicing? it's not -m Aug 28 07:22:28 * rhcp gets excited Aug 28 07:22:29 its palm source + palm patches + webos internals patches + my patches Aug 28 07:22:31 mhm cloning Aug 28 07:22:37 jonpry: nice Aug 28 07:22:40 thats exactly what we have Aug 28 07:22:41 lol Aug 28 07:22:43 lord Aug 28 07:22:51 ill die if this is all Aug 28 07:22:51 rhcp: seriously, not necessary Aug 28 07:22:51 lol Aug 28 07:23:16 here's an idea. if everyone had public source repositories you could just compare the sources ;) Aug 28 07:23:26 rwhitby: agree Aug 28 07:23:29 not only that, we could merge sources Aug 28 07:23:29 but everyone doesnt Aug 28 07:23:30 :P Aug 28 07:23:42 which is where the beauty of git would come in :) Aug 28 07:23:48 rwhitby: if there was a common git upstream it would make sense Aug 28 07:23:51 git! Aug 28 07:23:55 git r done Aug 28 07:24:03 but we all have to do the palm patches ourselves, the one that's out there doesn't work Aug 28 07:24:20 so rhcp started over with 2.6.35 and applied the palm patch Aug 28 07:24:22 ...this question may or may not be allowed, and if you have an answer, please PM me, but is there a pirated app market on webos? Aug 28 07:24:35 pirated? Aug 28 07:24:39 I dont even see any paid apps Aug 28 07:24:40 lol Aug 28 07:24:43 when i looked Aug 28 07:24:43 paid apps for free hah Aug 28 07:24:47 Oh snap. Aug 28 07:24:53 hwo would that be a market? Aug 28 07:24:53 maybe im missing something :) Aug 28 07:24:54 There are, i bought a few already Aug 28 07:24:56 classy Aug 28 07:25:03 really? Aug 28 07:25:05 tmzt_ ever hear of blapkmarket? or.... Aug 28 07:25:07 i must have something fucked Aug 28 07:25:09 isn't warez a taboo? Aug 28 07:25:10 lol Aug 28 07:25:19 squash wha? lol Aug 28 07:25:20 well in chans like these anyway Aug 28 07:25:23 personally? i dono about others? i dont care Aug 28 07:25:24 lol Aug 28 07:25:33 as if the webOS devs don't have enough crap laid on them, now you have to go and pirate their apps. nice work Aug 28 07:25:44 but yea i agree with rwhitby Aug 28 07:25:47 i only pirate when i feel an app or a product is severly over priced. Aug 28 07:25:52 rwhitby i try before I buy... Aug 28 07:25:53 devs wh owork on it really deserve it if its good Aug 28 07:26:03 and i do the same tbh Aug 28 07:26:03 squash: like the price of a coffee? Aug 28 07:26:03 rhcp which is why i do that.. Aug 28 07:26:05 pirates not welcome in here Aug 28 07:26:10 In mild half-ass defense of the pirates, I have noted that WebOS apps are more expensive than iOS counterparts in several cases. Aug 28 07:26:14 rwhitby: wouldn' Aug 28 07:26:15 I pirate 99% of android shit. Aug 28 07:26:16 ….the irony of coming into a dev channel to talk about piracy is not lost on me. Aug 28 07:26:17 But I think discussing piracy here is bad form. Aug 28 07:26:18 it works Aug 28 07:26:20 wouldn't know, not a coffee kinda guy Aug 28 07:26:21 :P Aug 28 07:26:22 i del + buy Aug 28 07:26:27 if i like Aug 28 07:26:32 yarddog- you dont make those decisions, thanks for your input though. Aug 28 07:26:33 squash: neither am I - too expensive Aug 28 07:26:34 if sux which 99% do Aug 28 07:26:35 del Aug 28 07:26:39 TellarHK they are Aug 28 07:26:41 rhcp, when adb works, you can pay me by finding out how the craptain fixed the touch screen in android Aug 28 07:26:49 TellarHK: versus what? everyone lying and acting hollier than thou? Aug 28 07:26:56 jonpry: hahaa Aug 28 07:26:57 channel ops - what is the channel policy on piracy? Aug 28 07:27:03 no joke Aug 28 07:27:14 evulhotdog, wrong channel my bad Aug 28 07:27:17 rwhitby everything should be free ;P Aug 28 07:27:29 and open source Aug 28 07:27:31 im not going to condone it or show where Aug 28 07:27:33 evulhotdog: don't see a @ next to your name, mate. Aug 28 07:27:34 God, I hope not. Aug 28 07:27:34 but w/e they do Aug 28 07:27:44 long as it doesnt effect me Aug 28 07:27:44 Open Source UI's are frigging terrible. Aug 28 07:27:56 shoudlnt be talked about here Aug 28 07:28:05 rhcp: so this channel is a safe haven for pirates as long as they are not pirating your stuff? Aug 28 07:28:10 no Aug 28 07:28:12 i never said that Aug 28 07:28:17 Soooooo has anybody heard about any Meego ports Aug 28 07:28:17 i said shouldnt be talked about here Aug 28 07:28:20 what's the policy then? Aug 28 07:28:23 ok Aug 28 07:28:28 we have a goal here Aug 28 07:28:30 not to pirate things Aug 28 07:28:31 lol Aug 28 07:28:35 pirate a damn kernel? perhaps Aug 28 07:28:37 :P Aug 28 07:28:39 rofl Aug 28 07:28:46 Maybe some touchscreen drivers. ;) Aug 28 07:29:02 im sure craptain took the touchscreen stuf from the dump Aug 28 07:29:10 only place he could fine them Aug 28 07:29:11 i think Aug 28 07:29:26 or a 16GB mmc image or 2 Aug 28 07:29:36 rhcp: thanks for making the channel policy clear to all Aug 28 07:29:39 At the least, knowing what the dump used will help find the appropriate OS equivalent elsewhere. Aug 28 07:29:42 rwhitby: np Aug 28 07:29:51 its pretty clear really :) Aug 28 07:29:56 rhcp, i can't find anything in there. either way he changed something Aug 28 07:29:56 get shit working Aug 28 07:29:58 not pirate shit Aug 28 07:30:24 I do find it amusing that someone asked about WebOS warez on a channel devoted to liberating the Touchpad _from_ WebOS. ;) Aug 28 07:30:26 jonpry: im sure hes using something binary Aug 28 07:30:26 RHCP question Aug 28 07:30:28 no way in hell! Aug 28 07:30:31 hes building from src Aug 28 07:30:33 fucking hypocrites rhcp... Aug 28 07:30:44 :P Aug 28 07:30:56 tmzt_: its done Aug 28 07:31:08 stupid bell here Aug 28 07:31:34 What will be harder getting Android running on the Touchpad or getting Android to be the Gingerbread Optimized experience we see on the Nook Color once we actually get Android booting Aug 28 07:31:35 oh, BTW: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Building_Apps_and_Kernels Aug 28 07:32:00 Optimizing will definitely be harder, I'm sure. Aug 28 07:32:12 rwhitby: nice link Aug 28 07:32:26 That'll take a few releases, a propagation of the info available once it's booted. And a lot more time. Aug 28 07:32:38 rwhitby: do you have any support for paid apps in your pre-ware? Aug 28 07:32:41 sorry to go off topic Aug 28 07:32:54 But in theory once we get Android booting we should be able to update through Clockwork like we would on a phone right? Aug 28 07:32:59 rhcp: nope Aug 28 07:33:08 Or does the lack of SDCard play into that? Aug 28 07:33:09 rhcp: folks can do in-app stuff Aug 28 07:33:13 rwhitby: k. i had an idea. since soo many of these fuckers are out Aug 28 07:33:21 griohl: if you must Aug 28 07:33:23 to get more dev going for webos apps Aug 28 07:33:42 I would expect that there might be some way to do a partition for that kind of thing, though I honestly have no specific idea. Aug 28 07:33:55 lets do it in ram for now :) Aug 28 07:33:55 rhcp: I find money stuff gets in the way of open source dev. as we've seen recently. Aug 28 07:33:58 safe Aug 28 07:34:08 rwhitby: what will happen if we add a partition through lvm without going through metadr? Aug 28 07:34:15 using an initrd for instance Aug 28 07:34:42 tmzt_: you can add partitions any way. meta-doctor, initrd, manual Aug 28 07:34:56 will that block future doctors? Aug 28 07:34:58 tmzt_: I'm working on a tool to add the ext3fs partition from a webOS app Aug 28 07:34:59 i got ruined by metadr today Aug 28 07:35:06 tmzt_: if you look at that thing. we were looking. it has a ext3 part Aug 28 07:35:08 added Aug 28 07:35:10 if you flash it Aug 28 07:35:13 with webdr Aug 28 07:35:26 and are there any tokens on tp that can't be lost Aug 28 07:35:33 (MAC, etc.) Aug 28 07:35:50 tmzt_: as long as you don't change existing partition, and just resize store-media and add inside the store group, it should be impervious to doctors and OTAs Aug 28 07:36:01 tmzt_: don't touch before p13 Aug 28 07:36:08 physical? Aug 28 07:36:26 ? Aug 28 07:36:27 rwhitby, i tried to shrink the PV and it flipped Aug 28 07:36:27 guessing there's amss stuff there? Aug 28 07:36:33 rwhitby: physical partiion 13 Aug 28 07:36:44 i think he means dont touch 1-13 Aug 28 07:36:48 14+ ok Aug 28 07:36:51 jonpry: not shrink PV, shrink store-media LV and add another LV Aug 28 07:36:56 ok Aug 28 07:36:57 right Aug 28 07:37:13 so it should be possible to do a non-destructive android install and uninstall? Aug 28 07:37:15 rwhitby: where does bootie live? Aug 28 07:37:26 jonpry: shrinking store group will confuse trenchcoat I expect Aug 28 07:37:28 its my main question id love to know :) Aug 28 07:37:32 because thats the brick time Aug 28 07:37:35 rhcp: before 13 Aug 28 07:37:36 (this device doesn't have amss I think, just the adsp parts) Aug 28 07:37:42 rwhitby: i know ;) but do you know where? Aug 28 07:37:47 or no? Aug 28 07:37:52 do we know what/if any romloader this has? Aug 28 07:37:55 and if it's unlocked Aug 28 07:37:57 tmzt_: it was supposed to ship with 3G etc Aug 28 07:38:01 sim Aug 28 07:38:01 rwhitby, yes it gets very confused. wants to repartition and refuses all at the same time Aug 28 07:38:01 etc Aug 28 07:38:02 rhcp: never needed to work it out, to tell you the truth Aug 28 07:38:05 so it may have the parts Aug 28 07:38:11 rhcp: I know this, but the soc doesn't support that Aug 28 07:38:16 not this version of the silicon Aug 28 07:38:19 accd to gesit Aug 28 07:38:22 geist Aug 28 07:38:29 rhcp: you should be able to dump the partitions and compare against boot.bin to find it Aug 28 07:38:29 rwhitby: Just was curious. because alot of peeps talking about wnated to dual boot off eemc/nand w/e this is Aug 28 07:38:36 rwhitby: ah yes Aug 28 07:38:38 good idea Aug 28 07:38:39 thanks Aug 28 07:38:47 you should just put a pivot in /boot Aug 28 07:38:55 rhcp: I would rather chain bootie into a proper uboot Aug 28 07:39:00 leave everything before 13 as it is Aug 28 07:39:00 it still has like a 12 stage boot loader. rom qcsbl, spl, asbl, uboot Aug 28 07:39:12 it's not uboot, it's bootie Aug 28 07:39:14 rwhitby: we think it will be a different kernel to support the different fbdev and kgsl Aug 28 07:39:24 tmzt_: kernel is in 13 Aug 28 07:39:38 normal file in ext3 Aug 28 07:39:44 yaboo: you got the info you were asking me from rwhitby Aug 28 07:39:50 13 is /boot right? Aug 28 07:39:53 yep Aug 28 07:39:55 yaboo: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Building_Apps_and_Kernels Aug 28 07:39:55 can we setenv in bootie? Aug 28 07:40:02 and make it persistent? Aug 28 07:40:07 tmzt_: we have a bootie-config tool Aug 28 07:40:09 thanks Aug 28 07:40:16 what partition is that on? Aug 28 07:40:20 the environment Aug 28 07:40:35 hmm - actually I doubt we have tested bootie-config on a TouchPad Aug 28 07:40:47 HA Aug 28 07:40:52 tmzt_: no testing on mine plz kthx Aug 28 07:40:59 no Aug 28 07:41:01 of course not Aug 28 07:41:04 lol Aug 28 07:41:05 ill cry Aug 28 07:41:06 :) Aug 28 07:41:11 but I could use you to dump romldr and see what's there Aug 28 07:41:17 if we can through /dev/ram Aug 28 07:41:28 you bulding that kernel? Aug 28 07:41:30 lets see whats up Aug 28 07:41:34 im curious as fuck Aug 28 07:41:36 haven't yet Aug 28 07:41:41 tmzt_: topaz.xml should show where the env is Aug 28 07:41:44 but I thnk jonpry has the right idea Aug 28 07:41:49 rwhitby: okay Aug 28 07:42:05 buid and make the multi. lets boot our shit here. Aug 28 07:42:06 I'm still looking through his code Aug 28 07:42:09 see if it gets adb Aug 28 07:42:13 tmzt_: actually, tokens and env are in p13, /boot is in p14 Aug 28 07:42:16 I think we were missing USB_FUNCTION_ADB Aug 28 07:42:17 topaz.xml has a typo Aug 28 07:42:27 meta-doctor has the correct partition numbers in it Aug 28 07:42:47 didn't realize that android driver still uses it Aug 28 07:42:55 179 13 32768 mmcblk0p13 (/boot) Aug 28 07:42:57 179 14 30504960 mmcblk0p14 (LVM PV) Aug 28 07:42:58 but it looks like jonpry isn't using the android driver Aug 28 07:42:59 no reason why you can't dual-boot android and webOS Aug 28 07:43:01 afaik Aug 28 07:43:08 rwhitby: does bootie have a different partiioning string? Aug 28 07:43:14 uh Aug 28 07:43:17 scheme Aug 28 07:43:23 like 0-based Aug 28 07:43:48 CODENAME = topaz Aug 28 07:43:48 NVRAM_PARTITION=mmcblk0p12 Aug 28 07:43:48 BOOT_PARTITION=mmcblk0p13 Aug 28 07:43:52 tmzt_: have you seen this Aug 28 07:43:56 http://team-touchdroid.com/wiki/index.php?title=Mount_Points Aug 28 07:44:06 rwhitby: is that a android board config? Aug 28 07:44:07 :) Aug 28 07:44:16 rhcp: no Aug 28 07:44:20 looks like it lol Aug 28 07:44:23 er Aug 28 07:45:06 line 381 of http://git.webos-internals.org/tools/meta-doctor/tree/Makefile Aug 28 07:45:12 jonpry: can we have your config? Aug 28 07:45:22 you can use the 'backup' target to check those values Aug 28 07:45:27 i copied it to tenderloin_defconfig Aug 28 07:45:31 ok Aug 28 07:47:58 arch/arm/kernel/process.c:38:23: error: asm/idmap.h: No such file or directory Aug 28 07:48:01 arch/arm/kernel/process.c: In function 'prepare_for_reboot': Aug 28 07:48:03 arch/arm/kernel/process.c:88: error: implicit declaration of function 'setup_mm_for_reboot' Aug 28 07:48:06 arch/arm/kernel/process.c: In function '__arm_machine_reset': Aug 28 07:48:09 arch/arm/kernel/process.c:124: error: 'MODE_REMAP_KERNEL' undeclared (first use in this function) Aug 28 07:48:12 arch/arm/kernel/process.c:124: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once Aug 28 07:48:15 arch/arm/kernel/process.c:124: error: for each function it appears in.) Aug 28 07:48:17 arch/arm/kernel/process.c: In function 'arm_machine_reset': Aug 28 07:48:20 arch/arm/kernel/process.c:137: error: 'RESERVE_STACK_PAGE' undeclared (first use in this function) Aug 28 07:48:23 that's a new one :) Aug 28 07:48:30 think you just need idmp Aug 28 07:48:43 which is? Aug 28 07:49:01 i'll check it in Aug 28 07:49:07 okay Aug 28 07:50:32 tmzt_, pushed Aug 28 07:51:03 thanks jonpry Aug 28 07:51:08 np Aug 28 07:51:25 I am glad to see all of this good stuff :) Aug 28 07:51:52 * kennethpenn nods in agreement Aug 28 07:51:57 evulhotdog: free and legal Aug 28 07:52:09 jonpry: still not working Aug 28 07:52:12 tmzt_ lol i meant code...progress... lol Aug 28 07:52:13 shit Aug 28 07:52:14 missing idmap.o Aug 28 07:52:15 error Aug 28 07:52:18 lol Aug 28 07:52:43 oh the smp stuff Aug 28 07:53:04 yea Aug 28 07:53:09 his commit message says Aug 28 07:53:09 ok pushed again Aug 28 07:53:12 adb support and smp upgrades for kexec(not working) Aug 28 07:53:14 oh Aug 28 07:53:15 kk Aug 28 07:53:24 thought that meant it wasnt working :) Aug 28 07:53:32 kexec is not working Aug 28 07:53:32 * rhcp watches build Aug 28 07:53:35 ah Aug 28 07:53:38 taht's to kexec Aug 28 07:53:52 at this point i Aug 28 07:53:56 'm not sure why Aug 28 07:54:00 if you wanted to boot from a one kernel to another Aug 28 07:54:06 jonpry: disable the second core? Aug 28 07:54:11 before kexec Aug 28 07:54:15 yeah Aug 28 07:54:25 sort of anyways Aug 28 07:54:34 cpu hotplug? Aug 28 07:54:52 should find a fix for that env Aug 28 07:54:52 its not implemented correctly though Aug 28 07:54:55 so we can make -j 16 Aug 28 07:54:56 :P Aug 28 07:55:07 before i started patching it, i think it was working better :( Aug 28 07:55:18 jonpry: have you checked the patches on linux-arm-msm? Aug 28 07:55:27 i'm not convinced it decompresses anymore Aug 28 07:55:27 fast suspend, etc. Aug 28 07:55:29 ...Should I buy 2 27" monitors? O.o Aug 28 07:55:38 I have 2 22"s now Aug 28 07:55:40 jonpry: that could be bad :0 Aug 28 07:55:46 32"! Aug 28 07:55:50 morning folks Aug 28 07:55:51 lol Aug 28 07:55:54 my tv is so small :( Aug 28 07:56:00 the kexec stuff i have is top notch. in 3.1 Aug 28 07:56:06 fuck Aug 28 07:56:11 jonpry: forward port :) Aug 28 07:56:20 we cant keep up with the flooding anymore Aug 28 07:56:21 linux 3.1 on hp touchpad Aug 28 07:56:42 this hardware is pretty awesome Aug 28 07:56:45 no damn amss Aug 28 07:56:46 ProTekk_ dude get the fuck out of there. Aug 28 07:56:53 tmzt_ the touchpad hardware? Aug 28 07:56:54 there's amss Aug 28 07:56:55 my basement is a total loss Aug 28 07:57:03 ProTekk_ fuck the project, get out of the house :O Aug 28 07:57:03 That sucks, ProTekk. :( I hope you got anything important out of there. Aug 28 07:57:05 jonpry: the whole thing? Aug 28 07:57:06 the gf's basement is catching up to mine Aug 28 07:57:15 ProTekk_: fuck touchdroid, get somewhere safe man Aug 28 07:57:19 fuck it Aug 28 07:57:21 some armv6 cores on the chip. thats what we open smd channels with Aug 28 07:57:21 im staying Aug 28 07:57:26 ... Aug 28 07:57:28 lol Aug 28 07:57:31 if i were a dr. id say ProTekk_ dont go down stairs Aug 28 07:57:43 waiting for home depot or lowes to open up...open season on sump pumps Aug 28 07:57:45 kinda like when you say dr my arm hurts when i move it this way. well dont move it that way Aug 28 07:57:48 hope u didnt have any expensive computer down there Aug 28 07:57:55 and we stll have ~12 more hours of rain Aug 28 07:57:56 It's gonna be a madhouse there. Aug 28 07:58:01 yeah Aug 28 07:58:11 jonpry: for adsp/qdsp sure Aug 28 07:58:16 but not the whole modem Aug 28 07:58:18 Grim86, in my house my only REAL loss is a set of 20 year old Technic speakers Aug 28 07:58:28 Ouch. :/ Aug 28 07:58:29 lmao Aug 28 07:58:38 which im THOROUGHLY pissed about Aug 28 07:58:40 tmzt_, that basically gets rid of the ril Aug 28 07:58:49 and at least later snapdragons give much more control from the main cpu Aug 28 07:58:52 of the hardware Aug 28 07:58:56 that's the only thing im fuming about is the speakers Aug 28 07:58:59 antiques man Aug 28 07:59:03 why didnt you move them? Aug 28 07:59:04 fucking bass cannons too Aug 28 07:59:12 mikejonezz, i havent been home in two days Aug 28 07:59:16 ouch Aug 28 07:59:21 make[1]: *** No rule to make target `arch/arm/lib/switch_stack.o', needed by `arch/arm/lib/lib.a'. Stop. Aug 28 07:59:24 make: *** [arch/arm/lib] Error 2 Aug 28 07:59:25 and my car is definitely done Aug 28 07:59:33 completely flooded Aug 28 07:59:34 idk how Aug 28 07:59:35 what state? Aug 28 07:59:36 What kind of car is it? Aug 28 07:59:41 mikejonezz, NJ Aug 28 07:59:41 nj Aug 28 07:59:44 we are getting the rain here now Aug 28 07:59:46 in MA Aug 28 07:59:48 TellarHK, 2000 dodge grand caravan Aug 28 07:59:48 jones, jones Aug 28 08:00:03 ProTekk: I know it sucks, but at least it was only a minivan. :) Aug 28 08:00:03 well.....theres always insurance right? could always buy some newer ones...well...just not the crap ones....they make alot of crap nowadays lol Aug 28 08:00:11 TellarHK, not really lol Aug 28 08:00:15 Did you leave Shrek in the dvd player? Aug 28 08:00:28 rhcp, pushed again Aug 28 08:00:28 jonpry: i think missing more files Aug 28 08:00:31 i dumped ~$3k in the last few months into it...tweaked the fucker out lol Aug 28 08:00:32 thanks Aug 28 08:00:35 281-330-8004 Aug 28 08:00:40 hahaha Aug 28 08:00:43 who? Aug 28 08:00:45 Use insurance money to buy Klipsch speakers. Aug 28 08:00:52 lol Aug 28 08:01:01 hey, whenever you get the rom flashable we need to make it 3d like the evo 3d Aug 28 08:01:02 that's why you're getting flodded, you're in south jersey Aug 28 08:01:03 lol insurance will give me what? $200? Aug 28 08:01:05 that'd be sick Aug 28 08:01:10 one payment for a civic :P Aug 28 08:01:26 my TP came 3d enabled Aug 28 08:01:29 the one from hp Aug 28 08:01:32 :0 Aug 28 08:01:32 yea Aug 28 08:01:37 Fatepad, the tp is not hardware 3d capable Aug 28 08:01:38 i got a vid on utuber Aug 28 08:01:44 it doesnt have the display technology Aug 28 08:01:44 it better be Aug 28 08:01:45 My TP has 4d :P Aug 28 08:01:50 I know you can make it that way Aug 28 08:01:51 you "tweaked" a minivan Aug 28 08:01:55 tmzt_: built Aug 28 08:01:56 dude its still a minivan ;) Aug 28 08:02:02 the guy at best buy told me it WAS Aug 28 08:02:06 rhcp, sorry, what's the current position we're at? Aug 28 08:02:07 did you pull something? Aug 28 08:02:08 not if it is rolling on 20's Aug 28 08:02:09 all my equipment is lost lol Aug 28 08:02:10 fuck the van Aug 28 08:02:11 are we still working on CWM? Aug 28 08:02:13 Pulser: I think way better Aug 28 08:02:15 my equipment means more Aug 28 08:02:15 :) Aug 28 08:02:18 new kernel from jonpry Aug 28 08:02:19 nice Aug 28 08:02:21 ya that sucks, sorry man Aug 28 08:02:21 OK Aug 28 08:02:24 i think we got adb Aug 28 08:02:25 in a sec Aug 28 08:02:27 right Aug 28 08:02:28 awesome Aug 28 08:02:35 sucks that ALL my audio shit is lost...home audio and car audio Aug 28 08:02:35 tmzt_: its in bootie Aug 28 08:02:36 if it makes you feel any better, the weather is fucking beautiful in CA Aug 28 08:02:37 did we fix the framebuffer? Aug 28 08:02:37 you think? Aug 28 08:02:37 fire when ready Aug 28 08:02:42 bjbm, fuck you lol Aug 28 08:02:47 ;) Aug 28 08:02:47 tmzt_: i hope :) Aug 28 08:02:52 if you are talking to me Aug 28 08:03:00 ProTekk did you take pictgures of downstairs first? Aug 28 08:03:00 btw, ubuntu sucks my ass on tp Aug 28 08:03:06 * kennethpenn I'm sweating in San Diego with no A/C Aug 28 08:03:18 evulhotdog, nope but it's getting worse and worse so no loss on the pics lol Aug 28 08:03:20 tmtz@root:~/src/usbrec$ lsusb Aug 28 08:03:21 Bus 002 Device 084: ID 0bb4:0ffc High Tech Computer Corp. Aug 28 08:03:23 sweet Aug 28 08:03:27 it's an HTC now :) Aug 28 08:03:27 hawt Aug 28 08:03:27 nice Aug 28 08:03:32 lol Aug 28 08:03:34 xD Aug 28 08:03:34 tmzt_, are you on ssh to rhcp's machine? Aug 28 08:03:38 yeah Aug 28 08:03:39 yea Aug 28 08:03:45 cool Aug 28 08:03:48 ProTekk i mean did you take pictures so you know everything that you are losing for insurance bud :O Aug 28 08:03:52 right, let me update my sources Aug 28 08:03:55 tmtz@root:~/src/usbrec$ adb devices Aug 28 08:03:55 List of devices attached Aug 28 08:03:55 000000000000 recovery Aug 28 08:04:00 :o Aug 28 08:04:01 oh fuck Aug 28 08:04:02 adb werkz Aug 28 08:04:02 no Aug 28 08:04:03 lies Aug 28 08:04:08 lol Aug 28 08:04:09 oh shit Aug 28 08:04:09 no Aug 28 08:04:13 w0000tttt Aug 28 08:04:19 tmtz@root:~/src/usbrec$ adb shell Aug 28 08:04:19 ~ # cat /proc/cmdline Aug 28 08:04:19 root=/dev/ram0 rw fb=0x7f600000 fbcon=disable console=ttyS0,115200n8 nduid=da4256e76e746266099a56057def5b3b6ebc3bbc kl Aug 28 08:04:19 tmtz@root:~/src/usbrec$ adb shell Aug 28 08:04:19 ~ # cat /proc/cmdline Aug 28 08:04:20 root=/dev/ram0 rw fb=0x7f600000 fbcon=disable console=ttyS0,115200n8 nduid=da4256e76e746266099a56057def5b3b6ebc3bbc klog=0x7ff00000 klog_len=0x100000 boardtype=topaz-Wifi-pvt lastboot=recover Aug 28 08:04:20 ProTekk don't forget to include the Monet when filing your claim Aug 28 08:04:21 OH FUCK ME RUNNING Aug 28 08:04:22 og=0x7ff00000 klog_len=0x100000 boardtype=topaz-Wifi-pvt lastboot=recover Aug 28 08:04:27 nice :) Aug 28 08:04:32 jonpry: thanks Aug 28 08:04:33 thanks jonpry :) Aug 28 08:04:37 fnj00-work what? Aug 28 08:04:37 np Aug 28 08:04:41 we could have used you like 10hrs ago Aug 28 08:04:41 :P Aug 28 08:04:43 but thanks Aug 28 08:04:51 Congrats on adb guys. Aug 28 08:04:51 never the less :) Aug 28 08:04:55 jonpry +1 internets to you Aug 28 08:05:00 god that feels good to witness Aug 28 08:05:06 haha you guys are awesome =D i love when things get interesting like this lol Aug 28 08:05:10 hehe Aug 28 08:05:15 Pulser: can you port aosp recovery minui to cwm? Aug 28 08:05:17 rhcp, show me some love...give me something good to play with (no homo) Aug 28 08:05:17 right, I'm off to grab breakfast Aug 28 08:05:18 I am glad I woke up. this is cool as shit Aug 28 08:05:21 brb Aug 28 08:05:33 ProTekk: nothing to play with Aug 28 08:05:39 you fucker Aug 28 08:05:40 we are following around with kernels and shit Aug 28 08:05:43 no android Aug 28 08:05:43 by the way it's about five commands for anybody that wants to try this Aug 28 08:05:44 dont disappoint me Aug 28 08:05:46 lol Aug 28 08:05:47 I gto soemthing for you to play with Aug 28 08:05:53 BOOM Aug 28 08:06:03 nice work jonpry and all! Aug 28 08:06:14 •kennethpenn• name sounds familiar, but cant put my finger on it... Aug 28 08:06:17 tmzt_: it still looks like shit Aug 28 08:06:20 fyi Aug 28 08:06:23 Kenneth Pennington? Aug 28 08:06:27 That's me. Aug 28 08:06:29 i guess thats koushs code? Aug 28 08:06:33 anybody have lvm static? Aug 28 08:06:53 as in the command? is it a binary? Aug 28 08:06:55 kenny pendergraph? Aug 28 08:07:08 Smith7018: it's a binary Aug 28 08:07:17 I can grab it from the bootloader if you'd like Aug 28 08:07:19 •kennethpenn• briefmobile.com right? Aug 28 08:07:24 Yessir Aug 28 08:07:27 nice Aug 28 08:07:54 ah Aug 28 08:07:58 do you have a phd in medievil history? Aug 28 08:08:03 kennethpenn: so you are the one that pubbed that article :P Aug 28 08:08:09 now you can update we got adb working thanks to jonpry Aug 28 08:08:11 :) Aug 28 08:08:12 thats his site Aug 28 08:08:14 fully credit him Aug 28 08:08:15 plz Aug 28 08:08:27 Nah... I'm working on my BA European History Aug 28 08:08:38 you should update your googles Aug 28 08:08:39 Applying for MA programs this december Aug 28 08:08:44 Not even close to pHD Aug 28 08:08:51 both are a waste Aug 28 08:08:52 lol Aug 28 08:08:56 esp in todays job market Aug 28 08:08:57 nice Aug 28 08:08:58 it also says you are a law professor Aug 28 08:09:02 @rhcp -- yes... I've been quietly hiding and watching you. ;) I'll update Aug 28 08:09:05 at columbia Aug 28 08:09:09 Master of Arts = McDonalds table matt. Aug 28 08:09:11 In AU anyway. Aug 28 08:09:12 cp;umbus Aug 28 08:09:16 columbus Aug 28 08:09:19 LOL Aug 28 08:09:21 kennethpenn: adb on clockworkmod recovery Aug 28 08:09:25 fuck it guys Aug 28 08:09:25 now to get lvm working Aug 28 08:09:28 ima take a nap Aug 28 08:09:31 sry for bringing out you kenn :/ Aug 28 08:09:32 48 hours no sleep Aug 28 08:09:38 LVM tmzt_? Aug 28 08:09:39 pm me later with good news Aug 28 08:09:43 g'night Aug 28 08:09:46 how are you going to sleep in a puddle? Aug 28 08:09:52 gn Aug 28 08:09:55 mikejonezz, couch is 2 ft off the ground Aug 28 08:10:02 okay updating. Jonpry will be fully credited, of course. Aug 28 08:10:08 please Aug 28 08:10:09 evulhotdog: lvm is what the Palm devices use (at least in webos 2.x+) to manage partitions Aug 28 08:10:15 trashbag's mike, trashbags Aug 28 08:10:29 tmzt_: i gave you the url to the full dump Aug 28 08:10:31 so we can resize the internal storage without losing webos Aug 28 08:10:31 of all lvm's Aug 28 08:10:38 rhcp: don't need it Aug 28 08:10:43 oh Aug 28 08:10:53 but we dont need to resize it Aug 28 08:10:58 not now, not for this Aug 28 08:11:00 ? Aug 28 08:11:00 just compile aosp Aug 28 08:11:04 and drop in ramfs Aug 28 08:11:19 we need to resize the lvm data partiion on the device Aug 28 08:11:23 and add a system and data for android Aug 28 08:11:31 cant live in ram? Aug 28 08:11:33 cwm will mount those so people can use update.zip to install Aug 28 08:11:36 did I tell you guys I was working on a webOS live parted ? Aug 28 08:11:39 and do nandroid etc. Aug 28 08:11:43 oh Aug 28 08:11:46 you mean koush thing Aug 28 08:11:54 rhcp, legit, idc what's flooding here...idc if im under water...you call me when there's good news buddy ;) Aug 28 08:12:04 he did clockworkmod? Aug 28 08:12:06 ProTekk: im going ot bed soon Aug 28 08:12:08 Quick comment for people working on this. Everything in articles still says Touchdroid, and I figured I might offer a reminder that the website for the "group" is still pointing at a PDF mentioning jbruchon. Just pointing it out for you to deal with as needed. Aug 28 08:12:09 tmzt_: yes Aug 28 08:12:11 im sure hes done Aug 28 08:12:11 yeah Aug 28 08:12:12 if you msg him Aug 28 08:12:13 :P Aug 28 08:12:16 and hes away Aug 28 08:12:18 awake Aug 28 08:12:25 ProTekk: be safe man Aug 28 08:12:26 alright well with that, peace and i hope i have gills Aug 28 08:12:30 of course my server speeds are slowing to molasses due to the TP article ;) guess that's a good thing Aug 28 08:12:32 neejay, will do ;) Aug 28 08:12:32 Good luck, ProTekk. Aug 28 08:12:34 ty Aug 28 08:12:38 g'nigt Aug 28 08:12:41 cya Aug 28 08:12:41 ProTekk GTFO Aug 28 08:12:43 damnit :( Aug 28 08:12:44 haha Aug 28 08:12:53 gn Aug 28 08:13:59 tmzt_, http://www.mediafire.com/?mfmsv5eek7uklxm Aug 28 08:14:18 that's all of the lvm-binaries from /usr/sbin/ straight from my bootloader Aug 28 08:14:26 if ya need them, 'course Aug 28 08:14:37 Smith7018: I was going to say wtf is that Aug 28 08:14:38 lol Aug 28 08:14:38 thanks Aug 28 08:14:47 tmzt_: I think koush has this done already Aug 28 08:14:47 tbh Aug 28 08:14:52 just not public Aug 28 08:15:21 has done what? Aug 28 08:15:26 lvm stuff Aug 28 08:15:40 for another device? Aug 28 08:15:44 no for this Aug 28 08:15:48 cm is working on a port Aug 28 08:15:49 afaik Aug 28 08:16:08 not sure where they are Aug 28 08:16:18 havent gotten a status update in long while Aug 28 08:16:21 I want to upgrade my monitors to 27"'s buuut, i dont know what to do with the old ones? Aug 28 08:16:41 evul: Buy more computers. Aug 28 08:16:45 o.o Aug 28 08:16:51 or send me the 27's Aug 28 08:16:53 :) Aug 28 08:16:53 I dont have enough room on my desk Aug 28 08:16:55 lol Aug 28 08:16:59 let alone my room Aug 28 08:17:00 i could use 27's Aug 28 08:17:03 Get a bigger room. :) Aug 28 08:17:05 I only have 22's Aug 28 08:17:09 2 of them Aug 28 08:17:15 38XX X XXXXX w/e Aug 28 08:17:17 the res is Aug 28 08:17:18 they prob have their own lill circle unfortunately....would be cool if u guys could team up and trade ideas and figure things faster....more heads are always better...unless theres drama sigh lol Aug 28 08:17:20 In all seriousness, idk if I want to sell them on CL or... if people would even buy them Aug 28 08:17:21 put them on the wall Aug 28 08:17:46 rhcp had bad things happen with them Grim86 so....lol Aug 28 08:17:47 pfft 32" for the win =D Aug 28 08:17:56 ahh nvm then lol Aug 28 08:17:57 Grim86 dont want a TV lol Aug 28 08:18:00 Update done - https://twitter.com/#!/BriefMobile/status/107727575752773632 Aug 28 08:18:22 Goodnight folks! See you tomorrow, I'm sure. Aug 28 08:18:24 thanks kennethpenn Aug 28 08:18:36 ehh thats what i have.....never again will i go back to anything smaller lol....i wish i could use my 42 but thats my regular tv lol Aug 28 08:19:30 tmzt_: this shit is ext3 right? Aug 28 08:19:35 webos Aug 28 08:19:46 or ext4 Aug 28 08:20:00 IIRC ext3 Aug 28 08:20:21 I was going to suggest we use twrp recovery Aug 28 08:20:26 we can build it from aosp Aug 28 08:20:36 but it supports ext4 Aug 28 08:20:37 :( Aug 28 08:21:43 Ugh Aug 28 08:21:55 do I spend 500$ on monitors or not, I would have no problem if I could get rid of them haha Aug 28 08:22:56 unless you found some that go higher than 1080p theres no point in 27" Aug 28 08:23:09 Poison-X: Agreed. Aug 28 08:23:22 save money for 2 22" Aug 28 08:23:28 I like my two Samsung LED lit 23"s. Aug 28 08:24:04 It seems the port to android is going well Aug 28 08:24:32 * Ironsight sticks with his 1600x900 17.4" laptop lcd (led backlight) Aug 28 08:24:36 jonpry: got twitter? Aug 28 08:24:51 how unsociable of me... Aug 28 08:24:53 I disconnected :( Aug 28 08:25:02 you missed something HUGE Aug 28 08:25:07 so... did someone mention my name just as I went away? Aug 28 08:25:11 orly? :P Aug 28 08:25:23 yea jonpry booted 2.3.5 Aug 28 08:25:32 god, so many segfaults on this toolchain :\ Aug 28 08:25:42 sure ya not trollin'? :P Aug 28 08:25:43 Smith7018: set it up like in the wiki Aug 28 08:25:50 nothing will segv Aug 28 08:25:51 :) Aug 28 08:25:52 * Pulser reads back Aug 28 08:25:55 ffffuuuuuu Aug 28 08:25:56 ive setup for 10 people Aug 28 08:25:59 scrollback logs awesome Aug 28 08:26:03 they already got GB and HC running stable man.....u missed everything lol Aug 28 08:26:04 any possible link? Aug 28 08:26:26 jk xP Aug 28 08:26:31 Smith7018: http://team-touchdroid.com/wiki/index.php?title=How_To_Make_A_Custom_Kernel Aug 28 08:26:50 Looks like I might need to prep a dedi box here soon ;) Aug 28 08:27:19 for us? :) Aug 28 08:27:24 hook me up Aug 28 08:27:24 :P Aug 28 08:27:52 haha Aug 28 08:27:57 * Pulser has a compile box Aug 28 08:28:03 and an i7 2600K =D Aug 28 08:28:10 dedi webserver... Aug 28 08:28:11 oh im on i7 16G of ram Aug 28 08:28:12 all good Aug 28 08:28:16 fnj00-work, yeah Aug 28 08:28:20 * Torch_ just uses his uni server for compilation... I mean what. Aug 28 08:28:23 I use my webserver for that Aug 28 08:28:35 it doesn't need all 4/8 cores to show a website :P Aug 28 08:28:43 so it runs gameservers too :P Aug 28 08:28:51 * rhcp likes make -j 16 Aug 28 08:28:52 Dreamhost.com, cheap and -fairly- reliable. Aug 28 08:28:55 rhcp, lol at yea jonpry booted 2.3.5 btw Aug 28 08:28:56 nice Aug 28 08:28:59 wishes it worked on this build env Aug 28 08:29:35 core 2 duo = ~50 min , i7 2600k @ 4.5ghz = 9 min for full android compile Aug 28 08:29:47 nice Aug 28 08:29:50 rothnic, yeah same here Aug 28 08:29:56 rawr! I have to start overrrrrrrrr hahaha Aug 28 08:29:58 I can do a kernel in <1min from make clean Aug 28 08:30:04 that is what made me upgrade Aug 28 08:30:05 luckily, it's a brisk 4:30 AM here ;) Aug 28 08:30:14 yeah kernel is super short Aug 28 08:30:25 i think it was near 8-10 min on my old core2duo Aug 28 08:30:34 rothnic, I'm thinking of getting a macbook air at 1.8 ghz i7 Aug 28 08:31:01 I have a 2.53 ghz c2d with 8 gigs ram, but im compiling in a VM, so nvm.. haha Aug 28 08:31:04 chaps, the config linked in the wiki is a dead link Aug 28 08:31:10 anyone got a copy to hand they can fling my way? Aug 28 08:31:18 http://core.nctritech.com/do/td-config is b0rked Aug 28 08:31:22 good Aug 28 08:31:25 •TellarHK• I work for LiquidWeb :D Aug 28 08:31:25 dont usei it Aug 28 08:31:27 nor the kenrel Aug 28 08:31:28 :P Aug 28 08:31:30 lol Aug 28 08:31:34 I have the gitorious link Aug 28 08:31:38 I presume that's the one we are using right now? Aug 28 08:31:45 https://gitorious.org/msm-tp/msm-tp/ Aug 28 08:31:47 this guy Aug 28 08:31:47 aye Aug 28 08:31:48 from jonpry Aug 28 08:31:53 that's the bugger Aug 28 08:31:56 he desves a nice op Aug 28 08:31:57 for that Aug 28 08:31:59 :) Aug 28 08:32:00 aye Aug 28 08:32:02 when i read that, i read clitorus Aug 28 08:32:05 right, I've pulled that one Aug 28 08:32:10 are we using the defconfig? Aug 28 08:32:13 clitoris? Aug 28 08:32:18 yea defconfig works Aug 28 08:32:26 kewl Aug 28 08:32:31 I guessed it should be ok Aug 28 08:32:31 Never heard of LiquidWeb, but it sounds like you've got it covered. ;) Aug 28 08:33:36 can someone possibly sent me a built kernel to play with while I wait for this to build? If not, totally understandable Aug 28 08:34:28 evulhotdog, my coworker said he thinks of Nickelodeon's Victorious whereas I think of Notorious BIG :P Aug 28 08:34:52 Smith7018 hahaha, I thought of victorius, then i though of clitorious, which led to clitoris. Aug 28 08:34:54 Smith7018: Your C2D is probably faster than tha i7. Aug 28 08:34:56 *that Aug 28 08:35:11 Smith7018, I would if I'd built Aug 28 08:35:18 oh you know what Aug 28 08:35:20 thing is, I don't trust my own building skillz yet :P Aug 28 08:35:22 * rhcp wants to test something Aug 28 08:35:31 rhcp: what? Aug 28 08:35:45 klausa, nah, it's from 2009, my coworker has the new mba and it's pretty fast Aug 28 08:35:45 i wnana see if it boots to webos Aug 28 08:35:48 i think jonpry said yes Aug 28 08:36:05 the kernel? Aug 28 08:36:06 rhcp, it SHOULD do Aug 28 08:36:09 yea Aug 28 08:36:11 oh Aug 28 08:36:17 I didn't chnage the comand line Aug 28 08:36:19 in theory an android kernel can boot webos Aug 28 08:36:28 just boot the kernel uImage instaead of the multi Aug 28 08:36:53 Smith7018, I saw your YT video Aug 28 08:36:56 looks an interesting start Aug 28 08:37:02 lol thanks Aug 28 08:37:17 i am Aug 28 08:37:18 :) Aug 28 08:37:18 I should delete my Frash video, people can see my face Aug 28 08:37:20 sec0r Aug 28 08:37:42 oh ur in via Aug 28 08:37:47 tmzt_: can you push it Aug 28 08:37:50 its in bootie Aug 28 08:38:29 booting? Aug 28 08:38:33 Yea Aug 28 08:38:41 lets see if it makes it to webos Aug 28 08:38:43 is bootie kinda like the chameleon in osx86 project stuff? Aug 28 08:38:47 or similar? Aug 28 08:38:54 hi, did i missed something this night? Aug 28 08:38:56 no Aug 28 08:38:57 with EFI and stuff? Aug 28 08:39:02 sirana adb working :O Aug 28 08:39:04 its way diff Aug 28 08:39:04 Ya, I think that dual-booting should be the number one avenue vs. repartitioning and installing recovery and stuff Aug 28 08:39:17 nice Aug 28 08:39:18 rhcp same concept tho? Aug 28 08:39:22 no Aug 28 08:39:26 WebOS is too nice just to let go for Gingerbread Aug 28 08:39:32 im in webos Aug 28 08:39:40 try a 3d game Aug 28 08:39:48 is it a long way from adb to android? Aug 28 08:39:53 we might not need two kernels Aug 28 08:39:57 but it would make things easier Aug 28 08:40:07 rwhitby suggested just symlinking them to change systems Aug 28 08:40:08 Smith7018, I agree with you btw Aug 28 08:40:16 @rhcp is it faster than the original webos kernel? Aug 28 08:40:20 I would go first for a dual boot Aug 28 08:40:25 ummm Aug 28 08:40:25 then for a "NAND Install" Aug 28 08:40:31 jonpry: you around? Aug 28 08:40:32 I would say that a combined kernel would have too high of an overhead, but 1 gig ram might disagree lol Aug 28 08:40:38 Same here, I'd prefer starting with a dual boot first. Aug 28 08:40:41 does your touchscreen work? with this kernel? Aug 28 08:40:43 the adb device is there but no adbd Aug 28 08:40:44 :) Aug 28 08:41:03 Smith7018: what?? Aug 28 08:41:22 surely we only need 1 kernel right now? Aug 28 08:41:32 this android capable one should do either webos or droid? Aug 28 08:41:37 erm Aug 28 08:41:44 my touchscreen is not really working Aug 28 08:41:50 its very unrepsonsive Aug 28 08:41:54 jonpry: around? Aug 28 08:42:02 http://git.webos-internals.org/applications/tailor/ is the start of a live webOS Partitioner. Like GParted for webOS. Aug 28 08:42:15 tmzt_, in embedded systems, you should try and keep the overhead memory usage to a minimum, but that doesn't really matter now, I guess. Embedded devices are faster than some computers from 5 years ago Aug 28 08:42:34 It could be made scriptable to create additional LVM partitions for a dual (or triple) boot. Aug 28 08:42:40 Smith7018: the kernel text size isn't a huge issue though Aug 28 08:42:45 Some folks might like to run Ubuntu or Meego or something else natively too Aug 28 08:42:52 there would be no other addtional ram from supporting two systems Aug 28 08:42:53 hmm interesting rwhitby Aug 28 08:43:04 triple boot with ubuntu will be nice Aug 28 08:43:06 tmzt_: this is weird in this kernel Aug 28 08:43:12 touch screen not too good Aug 28 08:43:21 There's no reason other than OS bigotry why folks shouldn't be able to boot multiple OS's on a TouchPad Aug 28 08:43:22 rhcp: we can port drivers from tenderloin Aug 28 08:43:23 rwhitby nice. Aug 28 08:43:25 we now have a base Aug 28 08:43:31 eh? I guess we're just confusing each other? Aug 28 08:43:34 tmzt_: you think thats all it is? Aug 28 08:43:35 thanks to jonpry Aug 28 08:43:40 yea Aug 28 08:43:42 rhcp: probably Aug 28 08:43:46 hes not here Aug 28 08:43:48 I know the arch linux guys are working on it Aug 28 08:43:48 i wanted to ask him Aug 28 08:43:51 if his works Aug 28 08:43:58 working on what Aug 28 08:43:59 ? Aug 28 08:44:07 the touchpad Aug 28 08:44:13 what u mean? Aug 28 08:44:14 Guy at google already has Ubuntu native booting. Aug 28 08:44:16 arch linux? Aug 28 08:44:17 aye Aug 28 08:44:30 some people on their irc were aiming to get arch to boot on the touchpad Aug 28 08:44:31 rwhitby: pull src :P Aug 28 08:44:32 rwhitby: and chromeos? Aug 28 08:44:40 i heard chromeos can boot Aug 28 08:44:48 a buddy flashed it somehow. he had safe mode working Aug 28 08:44:50 or something Aug 28 08:45:01 I started a port of chromeos but gave up when the android dump was online Aug 28 08:45:03 Pulser: with initrd method it should be possible now Aug 28 08:45:05 im not abou tto try it Aug 28 08:45:12 yes tmzt_ Aug 28 08:45:13 so I think any solution which doesn't encompass multi-boot will be quite short-sighted Aug 28 08:45:16 the gles driver should work in anything Aug 28 08:45:17 I am fairly sure they are doing ok Aug 28 08:45:22 is it a long way now to a booting android Aug 28 08:45:27 rwhitby, I was thinking something like u-boot could provide us with a "menu" Aug 28 08:45:32 since we have both bionic and glibc versions of them now Aug 28 08:45:33 do we haev access to hardware keys there? Aug 28 08:45:37 ie. for up/down/select? Aug 28 08:45:43 yes Aug 28 08:45:51 vol up vol down home Aug 28 08:45:55 right, as I've seen u-boot giving folk a menu Aug 28 08:46:02 to pick from boot sources Aug 28 08:46:03 we can use the on-screen keys for android Aug 28 08:46:03 :) Aug 28 08:46:04 more than enough for multi-boot switching Aug 28 08:46:10 yeah Aug 28 08:46:11 (Shameless self plug for multi-booting) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8qEogR9xC4 Aug 28 08:46:14 or multi boot we can use touchscreen Aug 28 08:46:15 * Pulser wishes he knew more about this Aug 28 08:46:19 Smith7018, what method were you using there? Aug 28 08:46:26 I tried to see what was on the screen Aug 28 08:46:33 but was watching movie on SGS2 :P Aug 28 08:46:34 I like the Qi approach Aug 28 08:46:44 lol, there was nothing on the screen besides a jumbled mess of images Aug 28 08:46:51 oh yeah, mplayer should be able to render to the yuv overlay on the palm kernel Aug 28 08:46:55 with some work Aug 28 08:47:00 so anyway, I'm interested in nudging development down the path of leaving webOS intact and being able to multi-boot many other OS's with a common boot architecture. Aug 28 08:47:06 I rewrote the old pre 1 bootr script so it hooked into the bootloader's init script Aug 28 08:47:14 rwhitby: we are on that side, except for a few that don't wnat webos Aug 28 08:47:21 why video that Aug 28 08:47:21 Smith7018: are you an SHR guy? Aug 28 08:47:22 lol Aug 28 08:47:25 rwhitby: it should be possible to support botho worlds Aug 28 08:47:50 Smith7018: nvm, ignore the question Aug 28 08:48:09 rwhitby: I assume we *can* wipe lvms as long as dos partitions stay intact and we don't need to doctor Aug 28 08:48:14 rwhitby, nah, but I know what you're talking about Aug 28 08:48:24 I also want to find a romldr recovery method Aug 28 08:48:26 hmmz Aug 28 08:48:26 Smith7018: that's the exact thing I'm suggesting Aug 28 08:48:28 to get bootie back on there Aug 28 08:48:29 tmzt_: with this kernel Aug 28 08:48:31 novaterm doesnt work Aug 28 08:48:35 rhcp: right Aug 28 08:48:39 it's either/or Aug 28 08:48:42 rhcp, it was two days ago, before anyone had anything really booting Aug 28 08:48:43 tmzt_: in my view, bootie never needs to leave Aug 28 08:48:44 we disabled rock Aug 28 08:48:56 rwhitby: I know, I'm saying that if somebody wipes it but not amss Aug 28 08:49:07 Smith7018: yea and it all happened in here :P Aug 28 08:49:08 actually, if romldr is unlocked we can recover in that case as well Aug 28 08:49:13 tmzt_: sure, but not create stuff which does so Aug 28 08:49:21 thanks to this large ass collaberation Aug 28 08:49:21 (wipes bootie) Aug 28 08:49:24 or however you spell Aug 28 08:49:24 :) Aug 28 08:49:28 lol Aug 28 08:49:33 so i gotta press buttons to reboot this fucker Aug 28 08:49:34 err Aug 28 08:49:35 k Aug 28 08:49:36 problem is you can't test it without wiping the bootloader Aug 28 08:49:44 oh hell no Aug 28 08:49:47 no doing that on mine Aug 28 08:49:48 kthx Aug 28 08:49:52 no I'm not Aug 28 08:49:55 lol Aug 28 08:49:56 tmzt_: sure, but I mean common usage for end users Aug 28 08:49:59 someone can donate one for that Aug 28 08:50:00 :P Aug 28 08:50:00 I'm saying you can't test romldr without that Aug 28 08:50:06 rhcp, well, if someone would've told me that, I could've helped :P Aug 28 08:50:11 because it boots too quickly Aug 28 08:50:26 hmmm... Aug 28 08:50:26 arch/arm/mach-msm/board-msm8x60.c: In function 'msm_hsusb_config_vddcx': Aug 28 08:50:26 arch/arm/mach-msm/board-msm8x60.c:1029: error: 'usb_phy_susp_dig_vol' undeclared (first use in this function) Aug 28 08:50:31 well, this is (IF) Aug 28 08:50:36 rhcp, using those sources you linked, with defconfig Aug 28 08:50:37 i get my order of 10+ Aug 28 08:50:39 and 2009q1 Aug 28 08:50:44 Pulser: tenderloin_defconfig ? Aug 28 08:50:45 tmzt_: having a romldr last resort recovery is good for everyone, especially if no-one ever needs to use it ;) Aug 28 08:50:48 ahhh Aug 28 08:50:51 I could keep one (if somoene paid for it) to rip apart + brick Aug 28 08:50:51 tmzt_, thx Aug 28 08:50:52 possible :) Aug 28 08:50:56 up to all Aug 28 08:51:12 it should be possibel to recover via jtag or serial if romldr usb fails Aug 28 08:51:13 thats only IF (i get my 10) Aug 28 08:51:19 thats what im thinking Aug 28 08:51:21 i open the bitch up Aug 28 08:51:23 carfully Aug 28 08:51:25 find jtag Aug 28 08:51:29 or something Aug 28 08:51:39 scotty2 had access to romldr on g2, but only after wiping some other stuff Aug 28 08:51:47 and HTC had locked it down, so he couldn't do anything Aug 28 08:51:51 uhh Aug 28 08:51:56 scottty2 ran eraseeemc Aug 28 08:51:59 from fastboot Aug 28 08:51:59 lol Aug 28 08:52:03 yes Aug 28 08:52:04 i still dono why Aug 28 08:52:18 I fastbooted a radio on my Thunderbolt to brick it Aug 28 08:52:22 actually is was soemthing else Aug 28 08:52:22 which i thought was always safe :) Aug 28 08:52:28 no idea why he did a eemcerase Aug 28 08:52:36 pretty obvious what that would do Aug 28 08:52:36 lol Aug 28 08:52:41 no I don't think he did Aug 28 08:52:46 afaik Aug 28 08:52:48 it was another command Aug 28 08:53:00 fsck something Aug 28 08:53:01 i have his perl to look at obsl Aug 28 08:53:02 etc Aug 28 08:53:18 osbl is what I'm talking about I thiink Aug 28 08:53:19 oh Aug 28 08:53:21 you know what else Aug 28 08:53:26 but I don't know the rom layout on 8060 Aug 28 08:53:28 i think there is no sound on that other kernel Aug 28 08:53:35 and usb mass stoage Aug 28 08:53:38 different qdsp Aug 28 08:53:40 now that i get a normal boot Aug 28 08:53:42 and yes, it's not enabled Aug 28 08:53:44 kk Aug 28 08:53:48 but graphics works? Aug 28 08:53:49 just things im noticding Aug 28 08:53:51 yes Aug 28 08:53:52 I'm impressed with that Aug 28 08:53:55 please try 3d Aug 28 08:53:55 i cant realy test 100% Aug 28 08:53:56 tbh Aug 28 08:53:57 i cant Aug 28 08:54:03 the touchscreen is like not workable Aug 28 08:54:14 thats why i wanted to ask jonpry Aug 28 08:54:17 maybe he has some patch Aug 28 08:54:19 he didnt push up Aug 28 08:54:19 jonpry: do you have the added adbd? Aug 28 08:54:47 tmzt_: have you seen topaz.xml yet? Aug 28 08:54:51 rhcp: can you ssh to the device? Aug 28 08:54:56 yea Aug 28 08:54:58 rwhitby: no, I have a copy of the dump/dr Aug 28 08:55:01 you want to? Aug 28 08:55:03 yeah Aug 28 08:55:06 hold on Aug 28 08:55:09 get on term Aug 28 08:55:15 rwhitby: do you have a gl demo that can be laucnhed from command line? Aug 28 08:55:37 which term you on :P Aug 28 08:55:39 type hello Aug 28 08:56:09 why did you reboot to nova? Aug 28 08:56:13 tmzt_: will quake do? Aug 28 08:56:18 rwhitby: yeah Aug 28 08:56:20 ok Aug 28 08:56:21 you got ssh Aug 28 08:56:30 on the wrong kernel :) Aug 28 08:56:31 tmzt_: install it from Preware, run it from the command line Aug 28 08:56:37 oh Aug 28 08:56:39 you mean on the other Aug 28 08:56:44 isntall quake first Aug 28 08:56:52 i told you the touchscreen is fscked Aug 28 08:56:55 tmzt_: see /msg for topaz Aug 28 08:57:01 aren't you back on the original kernel Aug 28 08:57:03 if you can novaterm Aug 28 08:57:07 yea i am Aug 28 08:57:14 install quake? Aug 28 08:57:20 tmzt_: is that the rom layout you are looking for? Aug 28 08:57:45 * rwhitby bbiab Aug 28 08:58:06 oh, the bootloaders are in there Aug 28 08:58:07 cool Aug 28 08:58:09 tmzt_: quite is going Aug 28 08:58:14 quake Aug 28 08:58:19 a lot like g2 Aug 28 08:58:45 tmzt_: Aug 28 08:58:48 quake is instlaled Aug 28 08:58:52 we go to othe kern? Aug 28 08:58:57 other Aug 28 08:58:58 I don't think Quake used OpenGL Aug 28 08:59:14 Quake's always had OpenGL Aug 28 08:59:26 maybe I'm thinking Doom Aug 28 08:59:32 nup, glquake had opengl. Aug 28 08:59:48 tmzt_: im gonna drop her in bootie Aug 28 08:59:49 Okay, probably all the ones post-Q1 then. Aug 28 08:59:56 I know that was a big deal for Carmack. Aug 28 08:59:58 *nods Aug 28 09:00:03 q2 and on :) Aug 28 09:00:08 yeah Aug 28 09:00:22 tmzt_: flash kernel Aug 28 09:00:29 tho id did release glquake Aug 28 09:00:29 ill try quake i fi can get it to run Aug 28 09:00:31 + you can ssh Aug 28 09:00:41 did it get on wifi before? Aug 28 09:00:46 dono Aug 28 09:00:50 did not look tbh Aug 28 09:00:51 * EdLin goes back to watching the kernel hackers while he professes ignorance as to what they're doing. ;-) Aug 28 09:01:06 learn my friend Aug 28 09:01:06 right, managed to compile a uImage Aug 28 09:01:20 now push it :P Aug 28 09:01:21 EdLin: learn with me :) Aug 28 09:01:35 tmzt_: you write the script for this multi uboot shit? Aug 28 09:01:37 rhcp, I think I'd choose to novacom it :) Aug 28 09:01:42 do you know if ad-hoc will work with this wifi card? Aug 28 09:01:46 it's pinging Aug 28 09:01:52 how Aug 28 09:01:54 l3x3l, that should be a driver thing Aug 28 09:02:09 yes Aug 28 09:02:11 but no ssh Aug 28 09:02:11 i have wifi Aug 28 09:02:28 might not be right uip Aug 28 09:02:29 ip Aug 28 09:02:37 Pulser: we can't, this kernel only has adb Aug 28 09:02:46 do you know the the drivers that the devs or working with have it? Aug 28 09:02:53 tmzt_, so I can't test it without flashing? Aug 28 09:03:01 Pulser: you can test it with novacom Aug 28 09:03:04 aye :0 Aug 28 09:03:07 rhcp just says flashing for some reason Aug 28 09:03:07 that's what I meant sorry Aug 28 09:03:14 the whole " < thingy" Aug 28 09:03:16 to load it in Aug 28 09:03:20 yep Aug 28 09:03:20 flashing? Aug 28 09:03:21 * Pulser will check logs Aug 28 09:03:23 that's just into ram Aug 28 09:03:26 aye Aug 28 09:03:29 it's a safe process Aug 28 09:03:30 just reboot Aug 28 09:03:33 if shit b0rks Aug 28 09:03:38 you'll need nook color cwm initrd Aug 28 09:03:43 and to build a uImage Aug 28 09:03:54 why nook color? Aug 28 09:03:58 it's called "memboot" Aug 28 09:04:20 "memboot that new uImage" Aug 28 09:04:39 springah I was wondering that myself, hardware-wise it's like an HTC Sensation/Evo3d Aug 28 09:04:39 rwhitby, ahhh :) Aug 28 09:04:43 that's a better term :) Aug 28 09:04:46 Smith7018 hey what city do you live in? ;) Aug 28 09:04:49 novacom boot mem:// < /path/to/image Aug 28 09:04:49 novacom boot mem:// < uImage Aug 28 09:04:57 springah: it's the right cpu and it works okay Aug 28 09:04:59 for adb Aug 28 09:05:08 ahh yep, figured Aug 28 09:05:11 I also don't trust others Aug 28 09:05:12 i learning Aug 28 09:05:17 I checked the mount table on this one Aug 28 09:05:31 groovy Aug 28 09:05:39 <- winzip dev Aug 28 09:05:50 winzip dev? Aug 28 09:06:01 you do the mixed up dialog boxes? Aug 28 09:06:02 :) Aug 28 09:06:08 tmzt_: I cant do shit Aug 28 09:06:18 the touchscreen is too whacked Aug 28 09:06:22 hahaha Aug 28 09:06:25 evulhotdog, columbus, ohio, why? Aug 28 09:06:32 rwhitby: can we setenv before memboot? Aug 28 09:06:35 cause im in the cleveland area :P Aug 28 09:06:38 Smith7018 :P Aug 28 09:06:42 lawl really? Aug 28 09:06:51 what area? I'm from the cle :) Aug 28 09:07:00 uhhh Aug 28 09:07:01 ut-oh, my lights are flickering. Darned Irene. Aug 28 09:07:06 the burbss haha Aug 28 09:07:08 "The Cle" sounds like an STD. ;) Aug 28 09:07:13 hahaha Aug 28 09:07:20 it's worse Aug 28 09:07:25 tmzt_: he said he'll bbl Aug 28 09:07:28 evulhotdog, as in east or west burbbss? :P Aug 28 09:07:34 south burbs haha Aug 28 09:07:38 the nice areas...lmao Aug 28 09:07:39 oh, fuck that Aug 28 09:07:45 wtf? Aug 28 09:07:46 lmao Aug 28 09:07:46 you're not from cleveland. Aug 28 09:07:46 tmzt_: want to make a list? Aug 28 09:07:46 :P Aug 28 09:07:49 you think? Aug 28 09:07:52 of things Aug 28 09:08:02 maybe jonpry can add us to his git Aug 28 09:08:03 to push Aug 28 09:08:04 what things? Aug 28 09:08:08 to add to this kernel Aug 28 09:08:09 Smith7018 like parma/strongsville/n royalton/independence Aug 28 09:08:11 so shit works Aug 28 09:08:15 I want to try console=/dev/adb Aug 28 09:08:20 so do it Aug 28 09:08:20 brecksville... broadview heights Aug 28 09:08:23 want me to reboot? Aug 28 09:08:25 the NICE areas Smith7018 :P Aug 28 09:08:26 Ya, I know the area Aug 28 09:08:35 but I can't if setenv doesn't work Aug 28 09:08:37 and LAWL, Parma, nice? Aug 28 09:08:39 woah, already up to pushing via adb? Aug 28 09:08:39 without setting it in the kernel Aug 28 09:08:40 were you actually from cleveland cleveland? Aug 28 09:08:46 parmas not shitty Aug 28 09:08:51 springah: not pushing Aug 28 09:08:53 cant you just push the kernel to /boot Aug 28 09:08:54 just a bunch of fucking ukranians and shit haha Aug 28 09:08:55 rhcp, why not just fork and push? Aug 28 09:08:56 setenv Aug 28 09:08:58 springah: you don't have to root anything Aug 28 09:08:59 he can then merge when he's back Aug 28 09:09:01 im from an east suburb Aug 28 09:09:05 of? Aug 28 09:09:12 cleveland Aug 28 09:09:14 :P Aug 28 09:09:15 tmzt_: cant you just push to boot. setenv and then fboot Aug 28 09:09:15 ? Aug 28 09:09:22 it didn't work Aug 28 09:09:26 and I prefer this method Aug 28 09:09:32 setenv should work with memboot Aug 28 09:09:43 so want to try it? Aug 28 09:09:44 not pushing? Aug 28 09:09:48 gah, i came in too late Aug 28 09:09:51 ill reboot Aug 28 09:09:56 why won't it connect on wifi? Aug 28 09:10:02 or listen on ssh Aug 28 09:10:09 i think its on wifi Aug 28 09:10:12 i cant do anything Aug 28 09:10:16 whats soo hard to understand lol Aug 28 09:10:20 the touchscreen is fucked Aug 28 09:10:21 hardcore Aug 28 09:10:27 springah: the step you are talking about only makes sense on locked down android devices Aug 28 09:10:48 i cant do shit Aug 28 09:10:51 oh shit hey Aug 28 09:10:59 evulhotdog, so youre up at 5 am too, then.. Aug 28 09:11:04 someone catch me up, what are we up to Aug 28 09:11:10 yeah I was riding the last like 8 hours haha Aug 28 09:11:15 my R6 :P Aug 28 09:11:22 springah: booting clockworkmod via memboot Aug 28 09:11:23 if you can get cwm up and running, you don't have to worry about pushing root via adb Aug 28 09:11:39 springah: http://t.co/OmhsZyH Aug 28 09:11:40 with adb shell to it Aug 28 09:11:44 in short Aug 28 09:11:44 tonight Aug 28 09:11:51 ok cool Aug 28 09:12:13 Smith7018 ^ Aug 28 09:12:30 jesus Aug 28 09:12:33 so erm Aug 28 09:12:34 good work people Aug 28 09:12:37 tmzt_: what now? :) Aug 28 09:12:44 wanna try that console thing? Aug 28 09:12:46 or Aug 28 09:12:51 i cant do shit with touchscreen Aug 28 09:12:54 can anyone send me a copy of their makefile in net/netfilter? mine keeps bitching about built-in.o/.. Aug 28 09:13:05 Smith7018: clone it Aug 28 09:13:08 it works fine Aug 28 09:13:11 springah: it's not broken Aug 28 09:13:18 Smith7018: Aug 28 09:13:27 bsmith@ubuntu:~/Desktop/msm-tp$ git pull Aug 28 09:13:27 Already up-to-date. Aug 28 09:13:34 git reset --hard Aug 28 09:13:39 make mrproper Aug 28 09:13:44 make tenderloin_defconfig Aug 28 09:13:46 make uImage Aug 28 09:13:58 if that breaks paste the last error Aug 28 09:14:19 rhcp: it's in webos with palm kernel? Aug 28 09:14:25 ahhhh i must've missed the first two commands Aug 28 09:14:27 no Aug 28 09:14:35 shit shit shit, no usb Aug 28 09:14:35 its runnig the other kernel Aug 28 09:14:36 in webos Aug 28 09:14:38 if you want Aug 28 09:14:46 i idle now, help 2moro :/ Aug 28 09:14:47 you want me to reboot to bootie? Aug 28 09:14:53 just webos Aug 28 09:14:56 normal? Aug 28 09:14:59 I need the command line Aug 28 09:15:00 yeah Aug 28 09:15:01 k Aug 28 09:15:25 booting Aug 28 09:15:28 so sound is an issue Aug 28 09:15:29 springah: did you build the initrd uImage as well? Aug 28 09:15:30 touchscreen Aug 28 09:15:32 if not it just paniced Aug 28 09:15:45 tmzt_: nope, didnt even know cwm/adb were running Aug 28 09:15:46 tmzt_: you should write the script for that Aug 28 09:15:52 springah: Aug 28 09:15:56 been a busy weekend :/ Aug 28 09:15:58 ./build_multi blah Aug 28 09:16:05 OK folks, I cba with checking, so what is the actual kernel version we are using here? Aug 28 09:16:12 I am just reading up on the framebuffer issues in CM Aug 28 09:16:13 CWM* Aug 28 09:16:21 tmzt_, do you also happen to have a link to cwm? unless it's built-in to this kernel? Aug 28 09:16:22 dont worry about cwm Aug 28 09:16:26 oh ok Aug 28 09:16:29 is that abandoned? Aug 28 09:16:30 mkimage -T multi -A arm -n 'cwm nook color boot image' -d kernel/arch/arm/boot/uImage:ncinitrd.uImage ncboot.uImage Aug 28 09:16:36 also -C none Aug 28 09:16:45 tmzt_: its in webos Aug 28 09:16:56 Smith7018: it's on xda I don't have the link right now Aug 28 09:17:00 or nookdevs.com wiki Aug 28 09:17:03 tmzt_: gah no pc/env set up or anything Aug 28 09:17:05 ah, alright, I'll look now Aug 28 09:17:17 Smith7018: http://www.mediafire.com/file/l7ya80zc8qzdgg0/nc-usb-recovery-0.1.tar.bz2 Aug 28 09:17:18 root=/dev/mmcblk0p13 rootwait ro fb=0x7f600000 fbcon=disable console=ttyS0,115200n8 nduid=da4256e76e746266099a56057def5b3b6ebc3bbc klog=0x7ff00000 klog_len=0x100000 boardtype=topaz-Wifi-pvt lastboot=reboot Aug 28 09:17:24 bugger it, sunday night, ill start 2moro Aug 28 09:17:39 springah: this kernel seems good Aug 28 09:17:43 it just needs some work Aug 28 09:17:44 :) Aug 28 09:17:48 need to speak to jonpry Aug 28 09:17:54 gimmie Aug 28 09:17:54 see what he fixed up already perhaps Aug 28 09:17:57 sec Aug 28 09:18:12 https://gitorious.org/msm-tp/msm-tp/ Aug 28 09:18:17 oh Aug 28 09:18:28 ok on it Aug 28 09:18:42 tmzt_: you on a gui irc? Aug 28 09:18:42 :) Aug 28 09:18:48 no Aug 28 09:18:48 add something to topic for me Aug 28 09:18:52 ah ok Aug 28 09:18:53 lol Aug 28 09:18:53 I can't Aug 28 09:18:55 lazy Aug 28 09:18:56 but remove the last part Aug 28 09:18:57 lolol Aug 28 09:19:01 use X-chat :) Aug 28 09:19:08 im on irssi Aug 28 09:19:09 :) Aug 28 09:19:11 hehe Aug 28 09:19:11 on 11 servers Aug 28 09:19:12 I tried Aug 28 09:19:16 and prob 500 chans Aug 28 09:19:16 :P Aug 28 09:19:18 your stupid - broke it Aug 28 09:19:19 haha Aug 28 09:19:24 I am on a GUI IRC Aug 28 09:19:26 tmzt_: dunno how to setenv before memboot, but maybe you can do it by novaterming into bootie first, setenv, then memboot Aug 28 09:19:37 rwhitby: we couldn't exit novatermimg Aug 28 09:19:45 acfrazier: add this plz Kernel: http://goo.gl/NZQ7z thx to jonpry Aug 28 09:19:49 but it said you can use any of the commands in help plus get Aug 28 09:19:55 tmzt_: two connections Aug 28 09:20:03 thx Aug 28 09:20:05 np Aug 28 09:20:30 tmzt_: novacom supports multiple connections Aug 28 09:20:34 rwhitby: how? Aug 28 09:20:52 just run novaterm, and in a separate window run novacom boot Aug 28 09:20:59 screen, duh Aug 28 09:21:01 good tmzt_? Aug 28 09:21:05 yeah Aug 28 09:21:37 okay cool I'll try that Aug 28 09:21:43 I alreaday forced the commmand line thoug h:0 Aug 28 09:22:29 * rwhitby finished cooking tacos for the family, bbl Aug 28 09:22:32 lol Aug 28 09:22:41 its in bootie Aug 28 09:22:46 gotta love rmeote control Aug 28 09:22:47 it worked Aug 28 09:22:49 yeay Aug 28 09:22:53 what did you do Aug 28 09:23:26 booting something now Aug 28 09:23:26 lol Aug 28 09:23:27 tellbootie recover Aug 28 09:23:34 soon you are going to ping my tv out Aug 28 09:23:34 :P Aug 28 09:23:56 alsamixer :0 Aug 28 09:24:02 :) Aug 28 09:24:29 huh Aug 28 09:24:33 what kernel did you boot? Aug 28 09:24:35 guys, I have a suggestion. Might not be top priority right now, but I think you need a fixed link for "status" of what's going on Aug 28 09:24:40 rhcp: root the rootme screen session Aug 28 09:24:44 as the topic might get very long Aug 28 09:24:45 :) Aug 28 09:24:51 tmzt_: what kernel is this? Aug 28 09:24:57 one I just built Aug 28 09:25:00 norm? Aug 28 09:25:02 oh Aug 28 09:25:03 hmm Aug 28 09:25:05 i think its better Aug 28 09:25:06 wtf Aug 28 09:25:06 added console=/dev/adb to the cdommand line Aug 28 09:25:09 what did you change? Aug 28 09:25:12 wait a sec Aug 28 09:25:12 nothing Aug 28 09:25:14 even just a protected wiki page where there's a list of things like "adb running" - yes (jonpry) Aug 28 09:25:16 ima test touch screen Aug 28 09:25:18 i got sound Aug 28 09:25:19 etc Aug 28 09:25:32 wait so i assume msm-tp builds, atm? Aug 28 09:25:33 ah same Aug 28 09:25:39 it's the HTC device Aug 28 09:25:41 springah, yes it will Aug 28 09:25:42 springah: yep Aug 28 09:25:54 shit shit must get env running Aug 28 09:25:56 let me think how to do this Aug 28 09:26:03 springah: use codesourcery Aug 28 09:26:09 2009q1 Aug 28 09:26:15 is the best one right now Aug 28 09:26:16 iirc Aug 28 09:26:23 i noob, wassat Aug 28 09:26:36 oh hell Aug 28 09:26:39 springah, Aug 28 09:26:41 sec I have a link Aug 28 09:26:42 root@root:/home/tmtz/src/usbrec# adb kill-server Aug 28 09:26:42 root@root:/home/tmtz/src/usbrec# adb shell Aug 28 09:26:42 * daemon not running. starting it now on port 5037 * Aug 28 09:26:42 * daemon started successfully * Aug 28 09:26:42 error: device not found Aug 28 09:26:45 have to add a getty on /dev/adb to upstart Aug 28 09:26:50 lol Aug 28 09:27:03 lol Aug 28 09:27:11 actually /dev/android_adb unless your plugging in a gs mouse Aug 28 09:27:26 springah, http://team-touchdroid.com/wiki/index.php?title=How_To_Make_A_Custom_Kernel Aug 28 09:27:29 take a read of that Aug 28 09:27:33 the endpoint doesn't even get registered until the device is open Aug 28 09:27:35 obviously use the above kernel sources for building Aug 28 09:27:58 rhcp: you know what to do :0 Aug 28 09:28:04 yea Aug 28 09:28:07 im geting you to bootie Aug 28 09:28:07 Pulser: kickass, thanks mang Aug 28 09:28:28 np Aug 28 09:29:13 holy crap what is all this haha Aug 28 09:29:15 tmzt_: did you want to do that? Aug 28 09:29:17 awesome Aug 28 09:29:19 yep Aug 28 09:29:21 oh ok Aug 28 09:29:26 thats std kernel Aug 28 09:29:28 why i asked Aug 28 09:29:28 springah: whtat is what? Aug 28 09:29:49 tmzt_: haha all good, arm-2009q1 Aug 28 09:29:52 im learnding Aug 28 09:29:55 yeah Aug 28 09:29:59 rhcp, he's just using that to get setup Aug 28 09:30:04 not to actually build THAT kernel Aug 28 09:30:18 he uses that wiki page Aug 28 09:30:21 to setup his env Aug 28 09:30:24 and build the above kernel Aug 28 09:30:25 :) Aug 28 09:30:29 nothing else works afaik Aug 28 09:30:31 oh btw once you have a uImage, there's another step regarding initrd Aug 28 09:30:33 yeah :) Aug 28 09:30:33 yeah, why not THAT kernel? Aug 28 09:30:41 springah, I think the one on the wiki is older Aug 28 09:30:44 springah: dont listen :) Aug 28 09:30:54 ahh ok Aug 28 09:30:55 just dont use the w/e Aug 28 09:30:57 config Aug 28 09:30:59 ill remove it Aug 28 09:31:16 w/e? Aug 28 09:31:33 what ever Aug 28 09:31:33 we? Aug 28 09:31:36 whatever Aug 28 09:31:36 oh Aug 28 09:31:43 haha yeah what config should i use Aug 28 09:31:43 im tired cant think :P Aug 28 09:31:49 the one from the gitpull Aug 28 09:31:52 tpoic Aug 28 09:31:53 topic Aug 28 09:31:58 ah of course, sorry Aug 28 09:32:01 np Aug 28 09:32:04 yeah Aug 28 09:32:05 i need someone to update the wiki Aug 28 09:32:08 rhcp, Aug 28 09:32:08 long day, maybe i should leave this till 2moro haha Aug 28 09:32:11 its OLD++ Aug 28 09:32:11 I am just registering :) Aug 28 09:32:16 Pulser: sure if you can Aug 28 09:32:20 ill admin you Aug 28 09:32:20 right Aug 28 09:32:22 ta Aug 28 09:32:23 tmzt_: did the setenv work? Aug 28 09:32:24 what I'm gonna do Aug 28 09:32:25 no one can edit it Aug 28 09:32:26 but admins Aug 28 09:32:27 is make a protected page Aug 28 09:32:35 and call it "current status" Aug 28 09:32:39 where you can put in "milestones" you achieve Aug 28 09:32:45 to save us coming online after the night Aug 28 09:32:49 going "so... waht changed?" :P Aug 28 09:32:54 yayy Aug 28 09:32:55 haha Aug 28 09:32:57 anything particular needing done? Aug 28 09:33:04 whenever I get up, it's been 8 hours since I last read Aug 28 09:33:18 today I found out we had got adb running Aug 28 09:33:19 :) Aug 28 09:33:19 Pulser: who are you on there? Aug 28 09:33:21 i dont see ur name Aug 28 09:33:39 Pulser Aug 28 09:33:40 and im offline on weekends these days - didnt realise yas had come so far already Aug 28 09:33:42 is the nick Aug 28 09:33:47 pulser@villainrom.co.uk is the email Aug 28 09:33:51 wtf Aug 28 09:33:54 http://team-touchdroid.com/wiki/index.php?title=User:Pulser Aug 28 09:34:01 http://team-touchdroid.com/wiki/ Aug 28 09:34:03 yea? Aug 28 09:34:05 mmhm Aug 28 09:34:07 odd Aug 28 09:34:08 wtf Aug 28 09:34:24 weird Aug 28 09:34:30 you dont show Aug 28 09:34:44 weird Aug 28 09:34:45 LMFAO Aug 28 09:34:49 * Pulser does not exist Aug 28 09:35:15 http://team-touchdroid.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers Aug 28 09:35:17 rhcp, I show there Aug 28 09:35:52 k Aug 28 09:35:55 you are admin Aug 28 09:35:58 sorry im kinda new to wiki Aug 28 09:35:59 k Aug 28 09:36:02 fattire took care of this shit Aug 28 09:36:02 hehe np Aug 28 09:36:03 with g2 Aug 28 09:36:07 so what are you wanting done? Aug 28 09:36:17 so.. novacom is kinda like adb..? Aug 28 09:36:26 rwhitby: haven't tried it, hardcoded the command line in kernel Aug 28 09:36:26 damnit pulser, hurry with that wiki lol Aug 28 09:36:30 LOL Aug 28 09:36:53 Current status would be nice. Aug 28 09:36:55 yeah Aug 28 09:36:57 just making it Aug 28 09:36:57 It gets confusing in here. Aug 28 09:37:03 rwhitby: I added a getty on /dev/android_adb Aug 28 09:37:16 I love how im looking at a screen Aug 28 09:37:17 it should be a raw endpoint so I'll use usbserial Aug 28 09:37:19 and my tab is doing shit Aug 28 09:37:20 :P Aug 28 09:37:30 rhcp: make the #rootme terminal root please Aug 28 09:37:37 tmzt_: send a command to kick me Aug 28 09:37:45 ? Aug 28 09:37:54 done Aug 28 09:38:03 not that one Aug 28 09:38:04 wtf Aug 28 09:38:11 you just ejected my cd drive Aug 28 09:38:11 lol Aug 28 09:38:16 you did kick me Aug 28 09:38:17 :P Aug 28 09:38:18 fucker Aug 28 09:38:23 lol netbus Aug 28 09:38:33 did it go back in? Aug 28 09:38:34 it popped open hit me in kneww Aug 28 09:38:35 knee Aug 28 09:38:36 :P Aug 28 09:38:36 yea Aug 28 09:38:37 love that command Aug 28 09:38:45 :) Aug 28 09:38:57 tmzt_: You can keep this shell if you need to build shit. im going ot move the ssh port Aug 28 09:39:08 i7 16G ram 6TB Aug 28 09:39:08 :) Aug 28 09:39:28 hey i want one of those Aug 28 09:39:41 wehre are the endpoints? Aug 28 09:39:47 I want six million in a Suiss Bank Account. Aug 28 09:39:51 >_> Aug 28 09:39:58 tmzt_: what u mean? Aug 28 09:40:00 which end points Aug 28 09:40:02 only 6? haha Aug 28 09:40:07 the HTC device has no endpoints Aug 28 09:40:21 Can't be greedy. Aug 28 09:40:22 right Aug 28 09:40:23 http://team-touchdroid.com/wiki/index.php?title=Current_Progress Aug 28 09:40:30 have I missed any "milestones" we have passed? Aug 28 09:40:38 and what is our next one? touchscreen and sound? Aug 28 09:40:44 Ty Pulser <3. Means I won't get confused when I wake up in my ridiculous timezone. Aug 28 09:40:47 sound works Aug 28 09:40:48 hehe Aug 28 09:40:49 so it seems Aug 28 09:40:49 right Aug 28 09:40:52 let me add that as done Aug 28 09:40:56 touchscreen for sure Aug 28 09:40:58 100% Aug 28 09:40:59 its FUCKED Aug 28 09:41:06 so touchscreen is next step? Aug 28 09:41:14 well we dont need it Aug 28 09:41:17 where's the device? Aug 28 09:41:18 ? Aug 28 09:41:23 what do you mean where? Aug 28 09:41:24 lol Aug 28 09:41:26 onmy desk Aug 28 09:41:33 it's not in lussb Aug 28 09:41:34 lsusb Aug 28 09:41:38 woop! kernel compiled and works… finally.. Aug 28 09:41:39 it just was Aug 28 09:42:09 see i would of thought we'd get an android kernel with webos patches.. huh.. Aug 28 09:42:12 wtf Aug 28 09:42:13 So, does this kernel have all of the necessary android patches, or just some of them? Aug 28 09:42:16 did it just kernel panic Aug 28 09:42:28 oh yuou know what it is Aug 28 09:42:30 its lagged the fuck out Aug 28 09:43:07 * springah is too baked for this 2nite Aug 28 09:43:12 no endpoints no serial device Aug 28 09:43:16 something is wrong Aug 28 09:43:18 stupid adb Aug 28 09:43:33 we need the glibc or static adbd Aug 28 09:43:43 that jonpry is using Aug 28 09:43:54 yea he said he has adb in webos Aug 28 09:44:00 i wanna know if his touchscreen is fucked Aug 28 09:44:03 and the tab is lagged Aug 28 09:44:09 mine is like WHOAH Aug 28 09:44:13 i think thats the issue Aug 28 09:44:16 its lagged Aug 28 09:44:37 rhcp, ya mine just started up. It's like it's trying to run crysis in the bg :O Aug 28 09:44:47 lol Aug 28 09:44:49 rhcp Aug 28 09:44:54 jimmydoodle: ? Aug 28 09:44:59 do you like the red hot chilipepers that much. really. Aug 28 09:45:00 =( Aug 28 09:45:02 no Aug 28 09:45:08 Remote host control protocol Aug 28 09:45:08 lies! Aug 28 09:45:12 .. Aug 28 09:45:15 lol Aug 28 09:45:20 <3 Aug 28 09:45:20 i prefer my way. Aug 28 09:45:31 rhcp + califronication=leet Aug 28 09:45:53 Pulser: backwards Aug 28 09:45:55 of course i dony reallcareabout rhcp i just wanted to say califronication is elite Aug 28 09:46:20 springah, ??? Aug 28 09:46:28 current progress Aug 28 09:46:32 its backwards Aug 28 09:46:44 woot Aug 28 09:46:45 we got ssh Aug 28 09:46:49 rwhitby: how to laucnh quake? Aug 28 09:47:05 tmzt_: look in appinfo.json Aug 28 09:47:06 as root or luna? Aug 28 09:47:12 root Aug 28 09:47:13 yay ssh Aug 28 09:47:14 which is where? Aug 28 09:47:16 yayroot Aug 28 09:47:48 springah, am I missing something? Not sure what is "backwards" Aug 28 09:47:51 remember I just got up though :P Aug 28 09:48:10 tmzt_: you are going to lauch Aug 28 09:48:16 but in screen how do you clear the screen like that Aug 28 09:48:17 shouldnt it be oldest on the bottom, newest on top? Aug 28 09:48:17 :) Aug 28 09:48:23 springah, AHHHH Aug 28 09:48:25 good point Aug 28 09:48:31 tmzt_: /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm/applications/org.webosinternals.quake (or somthing) Aug 28 09:48:32 he didn't install the game Aug 28 09:48:35 just the bins Aug 28 09:48:42 what do you mean ididnt Aug 28 09:48:43 i di so Aug 28 09:48:46 quake Aug 28 09:48:47 whre? Aug 28 09:48:51 fuck do i know :P Aug 28 09:48:52 :) Aug 28 09:48:53 ask rwhitby Aug 28 09:48:53 lol Aug 28 09:48:58 root@Rhcptp:/var/home/root# /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm/applications/org.webosinternals.sdlquake/sdlquake Aug 28 09:49:01 FindFile: can't find gfx/pop.lmp Aug 28 09:49:02 i dont understand, we porting quake too? lol Aug 28 09:49:03 Playing shareware version. Aug 28 09:49:06 FindFile: can't find gfx.wad Aug 28 09:49:08 Error: W_LoadWadFile: couldn't load gfx.wad Aug 28 09:49:20 springah: it's done, we're testing if the gpu driver is compatible between the kernels Aug 28 09:49:26 it would be huge if it was Aug 28 09:49:27 ahhh Aug 28 09:49:32 tmzt_: BTW, it may actually be SDL quake, dunno if it's GL Aug 28 09:49:35 tmzt_: im on lock screen Aug 28 09:49:36 so erm Aug 28 09:49:45 i cant see shit Aug 28 09:49:57 feel free to delag me Aug 28 09:49:58 somehow Aug 28 09:50:01 haha Aug 28 09:50:12 springah: WebOS Internals already ported quake. tmzt_ is just running it. Aug 28 09:50:16 ldd is pretty cool Aug 28 09:50:22 ldd rocks Aug 28 09:50:29 tmzt_: how do you clear the screen like that? Aug 28 09:50:32 ok last question of the night.. what do these android patches.. do? im trying to wrap my head around the process Aug 28 09:50:32 i wanna do that Aug 28 09:51:02 ctrl-l Aug 28 09:51:07 ah Aug 28 09:51:15 cls :0 Aug 28 09:51:25 you are not running cls Aug 28 09:51:25 :P Aug 28 09:51:28 i can winzip mod all day once the hard shits done lol Aug 28 09:51:28 i would see it Aug 28 09:51:32 some screen cmd Aug 28 09:51:35 ctl-l i guess Aug 28 09:51:48 root@Rhcptp:/var/home/root# /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm/applications/org.webosinternals.sdlquake/sdlquake Aug 28 09:51:51 FindFile: can't find gfx/pop.lmp Aug 28 09:51:54 Playing shareware version. Aug 28 09:51:55 nice :) /me likes Aug 28 09:51:56 FindFile: can't find gfx.wad Aug 28 09:51:59 Error: W_LoadWadFile: couldn't load gfx.wad Aug 28 09:52:06 tmzt_: start from inside the appdir Aug 28 09:52:07 it's not screen Aug 28 09:52:08 CWD Aug 28 09:52:11 ah Aug 28 09:52:11 wad? what is this Aug 28 09:52:17 a wii Aug 28 09:52:22 it's bash/readline Aug 28 09:52:26 lol newb Aug 28 09:52:32 oh Aug 28 09:52:39 tmzt_: you want ./sdlquake Aug 28 09:52:53 rwhitby: would prefer esquake :) Aug 28 09:52:56 rwhitby: there is no point :) Aug 28 09:52:58 i cant see shit Aug 28 09:52:59 lol Aug 28 09:53:06 i wouldnt know if it was working anyhow Aug 28 09:53:11 can I kill the lock screen? Aug 28 09:53:25 run ps aux Aug 28 09:53:28 can't even kill quake Aug 28 09:53:28 see whats lagging me Aug 28 09:53:31 maybe its a process Aug 28 09:53:34 no job control Aug 28 09:53:50 re ssh Aug 28 09:53:54 so you can kill Aug 28 09:54:03 ill re-rhcp you Aug 28 09:54:16 say hello in some term Aug 28 09:54:20 what quake r u using? Aug 28 09:54:22 jw Aug 28 09:54:32 My one big complaint about the touchpad? How fucking long it sits at the "OWWW! That hurts!" screen.... Aug 28 09:54:54 which screen? Aug 28 09:55:11 when you unplug it from a computer without ejecting Aug 28 09:55:33 ahh yep Aug 28 09:55:42 l3x3l: quake from Preware Aug 28 09:55:53 oot 3079 0.0 0.0 2748 596 ? Ss 02:38 0:00 /sbin/getty /dev/android_adb 115200 vt100 Aug 28 09:56:00 yayy Aug 28 09:56:06 huh Aug 28 09:56:08 thanks Aug 28 09:56:51 l3x3l: http://git.webos-internals.org/games/sdlquake/ Aug 28 09:57:51 359 root 25 5 230m 65m 43m S 99.9 7.1 9:16.62 LunaSysMgr 3389 root 25 5 2912 1276 960 R 5.0 0.1 0:01.14 top 1857 root 20 0 3552 1040 860 S 2.5 0.1 0:01.00 powerlog 1805 root 17 -3 67052 3928 3096 S 2.2 0.4 0:15.54 hidd Aug 28 09:58:04 SLsl 02:34 0:00 /usr/bin/pmmodeminterfacelayer 6260 UMTS SINGLE 3.0 Aug 28 09:58:07 why? Aug 28 09:58:17 i told you why Aug 28 09:58:18 lol Aug 28 09:58:24 this was meant to have 3G Aug 28 09:58:35 I know, but this one doesn't Aug 28 09:58:39 doesnt matter Aug 28 09:58:40 why run a service it doesn't need Aug 28 09:58:42 they were lazy Aug 28 09:58:46 sold * Aug 28 09:58:47 :P Aug 28 09:58:48 rwhitby: can we kill the lock screen? Aug 28 09:59:00 tmzt_: heh, you wait till you see the superfluous logging .... Aug 28 09:59:15 rwhitby: I killed all logging with one of your patches :) Aug 28 09:59:21 android does it too, but it doesn't kill anything Aug 28 09:59:22 made it 2x faster Aug 28 09:59:22 :P Aug 28 09:59:27 slow it down Aug 28 09:59:30 much Aug 28 10:00:18 formatting the macbook before i sleep, straight ubuntus ya reckon? or is webos mac friendly? Aug 28 10:00:37 springah: I do all webos-internals dev on a mac, with a ubuntu VM for kernel work Aug 28 10:00:44 SmartKey? Aug 28 10:01:02 yeah i think ill keep it that way too Aug 28 10:01:10 still learning osx is all Aug 28 10:01:15 <- windows boy Aug 28 10:01:23 I run windows in a VM too Aug 28 10:01:27 for when I have to Aug 28 10:01:52 main box at home is windows Aug 28 10:02:01 im linux Aug 28 10:02:03 for games/media shit Aug 28 10:02:03 aer apps running under BrowserService? Aug 28 10:02:05 with VM's of everything else Aug 28 10:02:13 I want to kill the lock screen so he can see the home Aug 28 10:02:14 i need my games :( Aug 28 10:02:20 and quake of course Aug 28 10:02:26 but if it's not gl it won't help much Aug 28 10:02:43 rhcp: you have a video on here? pm me the filename Aug 28 10:03:11 what do you mean Aug 28 10:03:12 video? Aug 28 10:03:32 video file Aug 28 10:03:34 to playback Aug 28 10:03:35 test Aug 28 10:03:40 how can we Aug 28 10:03:42 if it works in overlay Aug 28 10:03:43 i cant see past the lock screen Aug 28 10:03:44 from gst Aug 28 10:03:57 what does the lock screen look like? Aug 28 10:04:00 are you on the stand? Aug 28 10:04:03 a lock? Aug 28 10:04:12 no Aug 28 10:04:16 i can Aug 28 10:04:19 why does that unlock it Aug 28 10:04:19 no Aug 28 10:04:31 I can't find a process to kill Aug 28 10:04:37 it must be a webos app Aug 28 10:04:40 let me try something that might unlock it Aug 28 10:04:51 or build into luna Aug 28 10:04:58 oh Aug 28 10:05:00 thats fucked Aug 28 10:05:03 luna-send to unlock? Aug 28 10:05:03 tmzt_: stop LunaSysMgr ; start LunaSysMgr Aug 28 10:05:05 anybody know Aug 28 10:05:05 this kernel doesnt support the dock power Aug 28 10:05:16 thats a problem Aug 28 10:05:23 does it drop wifi then? Aug 28 10:05:28 need touchstone. Aug 28 10:05:29 haha Aug 28 10:05:46 no wifi is up Aug 28 10:05:53 obviously Aug 28 10:05:54 doesnt allow touchtone charge though Aug 28 10:05:55 :) Aug 28 10:06:40 tmzt_: gotta go man Aug 28 10:06:44 wife wants to sleep Aug 28 10:06:45 oh Aug 28 10:06:54 I'm going to bed soon Aug 28 10:07:07 im gonna turn the tab off Aug 28 10:07:13 feel free to mock around Aug 28 10:07:14 ok Aug 28 10:07:15 if you want to Aug 28 10:07:20 great work all Aug 28 10:07:22 tmzt Aug 28 10:07:28 what router do u have? Aug 28 10:07:30 gg rhcp Aug 28 10:07:33 bb-q: ? Aug 28 10:07:36 I think I will go buy a new one Aug 28 10:07:41 ?? Aug 28 10:07:58 yesterday I was talking about the touchpad losing network Aug 28 10:08:04 u said urs was fine Aug 28 10:08:12 it's not mine Aug 28 10:28:08 Is the kernel link a bookable kernel or the work in progress? Aug 28 10:33:13 It has been booted I believe. Aug 28 10:33:49 he left Aug 28 10:34:04 Pfft. Aug 28 10:34:07 A miniscule details. Aug 28 10:34:09 *detail. Aug 28 10:34:41 https://github.com/ddompe/wayland-wsegl Aug 28 10:34:50 getting that on adreno220 would be awesome Aug 28 10:35:09 Wayland? Mmm. Aug 28 10:36:05 woot prepare installed finally #touchpadamateur Aug 28 10:36:28 * rwhitby loves it when preware comes out as prepare Aug 28 10:37:03 "preparation for a better OS than HP can come up with" Aug 28 10:37:08 hahaha Aug 28 10:39:08 http://imgur.com/lcySI Aug 28 10:39:12 * Smith7018 is giddy :) Aug 28 10:40:30 >maintenance during EU daytime Aug 28 10:40:33 what the hell are they thinking Aug 28 10:40:44 Who cares about the EU. Aug 28 10:40:49 It's not the US. Aug 28 10:41:01 lolz Aug 28 10:41:12 I should point out Aug 28 10:41:14 That was sarcasm. Aug 28 10:41:21 For those who DON'T understand it. Aug 28 10:41:26 who cares about the EU eh? Aug 28 10:41:30 the greeks certianly dont Aug 28 10:41:37 True dat. Aug 28 10:45:10 what everyone goto sleep? Aug 28 10:45:53 die Aug 28 10:58:56 Hi Aug 28 11:01:45 * Pulser yawns Aug 28 11:02:12 * Wulfegang concurs Aug 28 11:02:25 yeah Aug 28 11:02:31 wish I had a clue what we are needing to do Aug 28 11:03:04 I wish I had a clue.....period Aug 28 11:03:05 * Flemmard shits on lvm Aug 28 11:03:16 lol Flemmard Aug 28 11:03:23 what u guys think of the Linksys E1200 router? Looking for a good wireless router for around $50. Seems to be the best Aug 28 11:03:26 so... we are still looking at lvm? Aug 28 11:03:32 i do yes Aug 28 11:03:44 I thought the idea was to go for a /media install Aug 28 11:03:47 so that webos would remain Aug 28 11:03:52 or has that changed again? Aug 28 11:03:52 well Aug 28 11:03:55 media is on lvm Aug 28 11:03:59 yeah Aug 28 11:04:07 I was suggesting a system.img kind of thing Aug 28 11:04:10 booting from there? Aug 28 11:04:18 and i can't get to mount thins fucking shit Aug 28 11:04:19 though we would need lvm support to get TO that img Aug 28 11:04:21 ahhh Aug 28 11:04:21 ok Aug 28 11:05:08 :( Aug 28 11:05:10 I know nothing about that router Aug 28 11:22:52 rhcp and jonpry: nice work on CMW and ADB Aug 28 11:25:10 c:\Program Files\Palm, Inc>adb shell /sbin/busybox ls Aug 28 11:25:10 ?[1;34macct?[0m ?[1;34metc?[0m ?[1;34mproc?[0m Aug 28 11:25:13 like it :) Aug 28 11:25:29 I don't know what that means but grats? Aug 28 11:47:46 hey Aug 28 11:48:13 wup Aug 28 11:49:44 about to get walloped by a tropical storm Aug 28 11:50:01 eh.. nothing to worry about.. been thru a few in fl Aug 28 11:53:28 joee_ yeah this thing has weekened quite a bit Aug 28 11:54:03 their not fun at night, but during the day especially at this strenght their not TOO bad.. the flooding will be the worst part.. Aug 28 11:54:41 we're only expecting 3 inches of rain Aug 28 11:55:10 yeah, seeing a "drainage" ditch a few feet from your back door is crazy Aug 28 12:01:40 rofl, local school district cancelef last thursday Aug 28 12:05:31 Hmm, a lot of the images from the dump are blank. Aug 28 12:08:19 10, 11, 15, 16, 17 are all just full of nothing Aug 28 12:08:41 or maybe it's another file format Aug 28 12:09:17 No, they are just full of zeros Aug 28 12:11:41 12 contains the actual Android system Aug 28 12:12:25 k Aug 28 12:15:01 anyone still awake? Aug 28 12:15:26 springah: Doesn't seem like it. Aug 28 12:15:48 does anyone know where I can get teh usbnet drivers for windows/ Aug 28 12:16:17 hmm dont suppose guys here have the android dump? Aug 28 12:16:30 springah: http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?t=3692 Aug 28 12:17:29 ahh yep Aug 28 12:17:42 allo all Aug 28 12:25:43 hi there, does anyone know how I can debug a broken kernel on the touchpad Aug 28 12:25:50 have rolled my own which doesnt work but cant find out why Aug 28 12:25:51 ! Aug 28 12:28:29 hk135, have you added an initrd? Aug 28 12:29:53 Tick Aug 28 12:29:55 Pulser: no, i was just trying to replace the webos kernel first Aug 28 12:30:02 right Aug 28 12:30:03 so... Aug 28 12:30:08 what sources did you start with? Aug 28 12:30:20 kernel .org 2.6.39-4 Aug 28 12:30:38 hmm ok Aug 28 12:30:50 do you have any/all patches necessary to get it to work on this hardware? Aug 28 12:30:52 ie. palm ones Aug 28 12:30:54 i grabbed the config from the webos kernel Aug 28 12:31:05 I'm not too familiar with going from total clean mainstream to something that works Aug 28 12:31:07 but... Aug 28 12:31:15 yeah i had a look at the ones from palm.org but i havt aplpied them use Aug 28 12:31:15 have you tried the linked one in the topic? Aug 28 12:31:18 *yet Aug 28 12:31:18 ok Aug 28 12:31:33 i guess apply them and give it a re-compile Aug 28 12:31:34 is this intended for android, or just for webos? Aug 28 12:31:37 right Aug 28 12:31:52 hk135, I suggest that, but if it doesn't work I can't really suggest anything Aug 28 12:32:03 were you using novacom to memboot it? Aug 28 12:32:12 tbh for ubuntu, but this seems like the place for touchpad Aug 28 12:32:28 ah ok Aug 28 12:32:31 no, i was copying it into the /boot dir and changing the bootfile env ver Aug 28 12:32:33 *var Aug 28 12:32:39 okay Aug 28 12:33:04 right Aug 28 12:33:10 if you are trying to natively boot webos Aug 28 12:33:14 I believe it needs the patches Aug 28 12:33:21 hence it won't run just now Aug 28 12:33:32 not 100% certain, but it's defo the same with android Aug 28 12:33:34 did tzmt_ and rhcp go to sleep? Aug 28 12:33:37 great progress last night Aug 28 12:33:40 vinylfreak89, yeah I think so Aug 28 12:33:51 Pulser: cool, thanks Aug 28 12:34:57 So if Tyco is bac Aug 28 12:35:36 So if rhcp is back in the game what's the deal with donations? Aug 28 12:36:03 pulser u dont happen to have a dev box i could borrow for a day or so do ya Aug 28 12:36:12 mine isn't opperational due to the hurrican Aug 28 12:36:20 afraid not :( Aug 28 12:36:29 can't really give it out Aug 28 12:36:30 anyone in here do? Aug 28 12:36:44 noone has pure generic aosp build somewhere? Aug 28 12:36:48 Flemmard, Aug 28 12:36:53 I have a pure generic aosp build Aug 28 12:36:59 of Gingerbread for the Dragonboard Aug 28 12:37:01 building here takes forever Aug 28 12:37:03 that help? Aug 28 12:37:07 or tell me what you want built :) Aug 28 12:37:19 well, just a vanilla one, with no device-specific settings Aug 28 12:37:25 uhm Aug 28 12:37:28 how does that work? Aug 28 12:37:32 well Aug 28 12:37:34 without a board type I don't think you can do a build Aug 28 12:37:34 target=generic ? Aug 28 12:37:36 oh Aug 28 12:37:47 hmmm I am sure I can do one Aug 28 12:37:51 i dont really sure Aug 28 12:37:58 but i think base android works this way Aug 28 12:37:59 you give me the commands Aug 28 12:38:05 I'll build it :) Aug 28 12:38:15 well Aug 28 12:38:22 go virtualbox go Aug 28 12:38:25 afaik it's just a simple make Aug 28 12:38:26 lol Aug 28 12:38:31 lo Aug 28 12:38:32 l Aug 28 12:38:33 but... Aug 28 12:38:35 which repo? Aug 28 12:38:35 :P Aug 28 12:38:39 ah Aug 28 12:38:41 well Aug 28 12:38:42 cm7 Aug 28 12:38:45 ok Aug 28 12:39:11 repo init -u git://android.git.kernel.org/platform/manifest.git -b gingerbread Aug 28 12:39:12 xD Aug 28 12:39:25 ok Aug 28 12:39:27 so pure aosp? Aug 28 12:39:35 yes Aug 28 12:39:41 i just waot to have something to try Aug 28 12:39:42 :) Aug 28 12:39:52 okay Aug 28 12:39:55 i built one but .. must've gone with a rm -rf Aug 28 12:39:55 xD Aug 28 12:40:00 lol Aug 28 12:40:34 i really have never compiled android before Aug 28 12:40:41 so i feel a bit noob :) Aug 28 12:40:51 syncing Aug 28 12:40:57 6.17 MiB/s Aug 28 12:40:59 slow :( Aug 28 12:41:14 java is a fuckin painin the ass Aug 28 12:41:35 lol Aug 28 12:41:37 it is that Aug 28 12:41:43 right, this is only going at about 6 MB/s Aug 28 12:41:51 7 now Aug 28 12:41:57 good afternoon Aug 28 12:42:01 just woke up Aug 28 12:42:02 there's more than 2-3Gb of sources for 80Mb result Aug 28 12:42:06 what is the good news? Aug 28 12:42:15 Flemmard, indeed =D Aug 28 12:42:29 http://team-touchdroid.com/wiki/index.php?title=Current_Progress Aug 28 12:42:32 Ice_Black, ^ Aug 28 12:42:44 thank you Aug 28 12:42:51 mate Aug 28 12:42:55 Pulser: u rule Aug 28 12:42:57 :) Aug 28 12:43:01 hehe Aug 28 12:43:04 oh wait PuffTheMagic Aug 28 12:43:06 Pulser Aug 28 12:43:13 mmhnm? Aug 28 12:43:18 Why compile WebOS kernel? Aug 28 12:43:21 aybe i found it Aug 28 12:43:22 :D Aug 28 12:43:26 WebOS kernel for WebOS Aug 28 12:43:32 Ice_Black, well, it's actually an android modified kernel Aug 28 12:43:37 it has adb support in it Aug 28 12:43:41 joozle Aug 28 12:43:42 that's a huge step forward Aug 28 12:43:52 Oh WebOS using android? Aug 28 12:43:52 lol ok Flemmard Aug 28 12:43:54 Pulser: nevermind .. :) Aug 28 12:43:56 i found it Aug 28 12:43:56 Pulser: lol gotta start adding little summaries Aug 28 12:43:57 sorry Aug 28 12:43:57 :) Aug 28 12:43:58 * Pulser will just keep going with his sync Aug 28 12:44:03 springah, hehe Aug 28 12:44:07 so Ice_Black Aug 28 12:44:08 basically Aug 28 12:44:16 say I gave you a wonderful android image Aug 28 12:44:17 that would run Aug 28 12:44:23 you need an android kernel Aug 28 12:44:23 :P Aug 28 12:44:33 android and webos are both linux derived Aug 28 12:44:40 they both use fairly similar sources Aug 28 12:44:46 I got ya Aug 28 12:44:48 but for android. you need to enable things like adb Aug 28 12:44:50 and wakelocks Aug 28 12:45:15 I though you can simply replace android kernel from exiting kernal Aug 28 12:45:34 Ice_Black, but we have to make one first :) Aug 28 12:45:39 this is the first step towards that Aug 28 12:45:44 Well done! Aug 28 12:45:51 as we currently don't have an android image to test it with Aug 28 12:45:56 but once we have a kernel ready Aug 28 12:46:01 we can use the dump etc Aug 28 12:46:04 but one step at a time Aug 28 12:46:19 That is so cool mate Aug 28 12:46:46 it's a step forwards Aug 28 12:46:56 big step Aug 28 12:47:00 like.. itll happen Aug 28 12:47:01 haha Aug 28 12:47:03 although ATM we are not really moving until people come online Aug 28 12:47:13 springah, some other people have already done it... Aug 28 12:47:22 but that's besides the point Aug 28 12:47:23 no way Aug 28 12:47:26 so webos developed from android kernel? Aug 28 12:47:33 same method tho? Aug 28 12:47:43 Ice_Black, not as such, webos can boot from a kernel with adb enabled Aug 28 12:47:52 what interface system does webos use Aug 28 12:47:56 springah, I don't know for sure, but it would achieve the same effect Aug 28 12:48:03 hmm, what do you mean by interface system Aug 28 12:48:18 which GUI system Aug 28 12:48:21 who Aug 28 12:48:24 its own one Aug 28 12:48:34 lunar? Aug 28 12:48:36 Luna Aug 28 12:48:37 yeah Aug 28 12:48:40 luna Aug 28 12:48:44 yeah also, who Aug 28 12:49:36 hey guys noob question, how can I transfer shit to my tp wirelessly ? Thank you Aug 28 12:49:59 So let me ask a question. Does any team, you guys, others/CM7 have android at least booting yet on a touchpad? Aug 28 12:50:39 tgutowski2007, it's been booted by craptain, but without touchscreen working Aug 28 12:50:39 tgutowski2007: theres even random people booting android already ,.. Aug 28 12:50:57 aDr|aN- take your question to #touchpad Aug 28 12:51:28 Kewlj1313: they ignored my ass ,.. Aug 28 12:51:42 thanks for the information. Really appreciate all the work you guys are doing. Aug 28 12:51:49 becuase you are, an ass! Aug 28 12:51:53 ah ha ha, see what i did there =( Aug 28 12:51:55 lol Aug 28 12:52:38 could that be it ? I'll ask again ,. nicer Aug 28 12:53:06 webOS needs an android player Aug 28 12:53:07 if I had to guess I'd say just not many peoplea round right now... ask when there is :) Aug 28 12:54:03 Flemmard, what? Aug 28 12:54:31 PuffTheMagic: nothing, tab fail Aug 28 12:54:34 nah he was trying to get my name Aug 28 12:55:58 sorry :) Aug 28 12:57:55 you guys is doing great job Aug 28 12:57:57 keep it up Aug 28 12:58:03 i wish i could learn linux :( Aug 28 12:58:11 how did you guys learn it? Aug 28 12:58:23 Ice_Black, just known it for a while :) Aug 28 12:58:32 i only know the basic Aug 28 12:58:42 Ice_Black grab ubuntu live CD Aug 28 12:58:44 start playing Aug 28 12:58:44 :D Aug 28 12:58:46 ps aux, ls -la, top, cd path, etc Aug 28 12:58:48 thats how i learned Aug 28 12:58:49 well Aug 28 12:58:49 basic command Aug 28 12:58:52 i learned on redhat 9 Aug 28 12:58:53 but Aug 28 12:58:56 thats years ago Aug 28 12:58:57 :P Aug 28 13:00:25 whoa progress ftw Aug 28 13:00:41 That... aint supposed to be there still Aug 28 13:00:59 started career with Suse Linux 4.2 circa 1996 Aug 28 13:01:03 why u no have op no more Aug 28 13:01:19 vinylfreak89, long story, gotta talk to rhcp Aug 28 13:01:25 ok Aug 28 13:01:53 he's asleep iirc Aug 28 13:02:02 k Aug 28 13:02:09 odd he told me he removed my aop Aug 28 13:03:03 so farchord how are you doing today? Aug 28 13:03:10 * Pulser is making conversation as he is bored Aug 28 13:03:15 everyone is US based :( Aug 28 13:03:15 Pulser, a bit tired, slightly horny, you? Aug 28 13:03:18 lol Aug 28 13:03:20 not bad Aug 28 13:03:25 * farchord wonders if pulser regrets his question yet. Aug 28 13:03:25 trying to find things to do Aug 28 13:03:35 * Pulser regrets it round about.... NAO... Aug 28 13:03:38 lol Aug 28 13:03:49 yeah, we seem to make good progress last night Aug 28 13:03:51 then hit a lull Aug 28 13:03:56 which happens each day Aug 28 13:03:57 which is a shame Aug 28 13:04:00 as it's when I'm around Aug 28 13:04:07 and progress only resumes when I head off =D Aug 28 13:04:11 lol Aug 28 13:04:22 aaaanyway, yeah irene's gonna hit here today Aug 28 13:04:25 :( Aug 28 13:04:36 50-100 Km/h winds, 50-100MM rain (Which is ALOT) Aug 28 13:05:39 yeah Aug 28 13:05:40 that's a lot Aug 28 13:05:56 I take it the worst part is the sustained winds? Aug 28 13:05:59 yeah tropical storms dont hit here often Aug 28 13:06:03 aye Aug 28 13:06:05 well I'm in the UK Aug 28 13:06:08 we get those winds Aug 28 13:06:13 and occasionally 50mm rain Aug 28 13:06:14 in 24 hours Aug 28 13:06:18 well, prolly not gonna be sustained much once it gets here Aug 28 13:06:18 but it's never a warning here Aug 28 13:06:20 no evacuation Aug 28 13:06:28 * Pulser wonders what makes it worse there Aug 28 13:06:28 oh no we're not evacuating Aug 28 13:06:32 yeah Aug 28 13:06:35 I mean NY did though Aug 28 13:07:15 Pulser, I think it's more about building/landscape, I mean, if you are used to heavy rains and heavy winds, you'll build your sewers and city with that in mind right? Aug 28 13:07:19 strange by android binaries wont exec Aug 28 13:07:21 +Pulser where in uk? Aug 28 13:07:23 NY is not used to that kind of punishment Aug 28 13:07:25 I'm UK Aug 28 13:07:27 true farchord Aug 28 13:07:32 well we are not geared for anything like it Aug 28 13:07:39 but we get 80 mph winds sometimes Aug 28 13:07:40 at night Aug 28 13:07:43 and nobody bats an eyelid Aug 28 13:07:52 sure, the forecast might say "strong winds and gales" Aug 28 13:07:54 but in the morning Aug 28 13:07:59 you might get one fallen tree Aug 28 13:08:00 etc Aug 28 13:08:07 Pulser, for example, we are here geared for snow. But New York, not so much, or as much Aug 28 13:08:26 I was in hong kong and they freaked over the same thing Aug 28 13:08:30 true Aug 28 13:08:30 For example, a 40CM snowstorm here is big but not destructive. In NY, though... Aug 28 13:08:33 we are useless in snow Aug 28 13:08:37 seemed like a bad thunderstorm in Indiana Aug 28 13:08:37 but in austria, they are fine Aug 28 13:08:41 they get a foot Aug 28 13:08:47 and every road is clear in 2 hours Aug 28 13:08:56 yup Aug 28 13:09:04 Where can I find the current status of touchdroid? Aug 28 13:09:06 but meh, we get high winds occasionally Aug 28 13:09:11 Duffman_, http://team-touchdroid.com/wiki/index.php?title=Current_Progress Aug 28 13:09:14 Duffman_, check the topic, esse. Aug 28 13:09:22 someone op themselves and add http://team-touchdroid.com/wiki/index.php?title=Current_Progress to topic plox :) Aug 28 13:09:25 Pulsar I am coming to the UK next month Aug 28 13:09:37 opps Pulser Aug 28 13:09:39 Ty, Aug 28 13:09:45 Pulser, theres already a link in the topic Aug 28 13:09:46 Pulser: YES, that's the kind of page we need,rather than some unfunny page with "no" in Aug 28 13:09:54 hehehe Aug 28 13:09:57 * Pulser made it today Aug 28 13:10:03 lol true farchord :) Aug 28 13:10:17 * Pulser bets that will not be changed when it IS ready :P Aug 28 13:10:35 Pulser is GiffGaff good? Aug 28 13:10:41 yes Aug 28 13:10:48 same net as o2 Aug 28 13:10:53 Pulser, well, if my talk with rhcp goes well, I might be able to come back and help manage this chan again Aug 28 13:11:00 while the other guys work on dev work Aug 28 13:11:37 thanks Pulser I got a sim card on the way. Aug 28 13:11:42 farchord, right OK Aug 28 13:11:52 please just one thing, do not make it beauraucracy :) Aug 28 13:11:54 that's not what we need Aug 28 13:12:08 I find it funny how the isitready page uses an image instead of text... Aug 28 13:12:09 I'll do it whichever way rhcp wants it lol Aug 28 13:12:11 rather than managing channels, let's make kernels boot, and fix bugs :) Aug 28 13:12:23 yeah true, but what we need more than anything is developing =D Aug 28 13:12:29 Ximon, interesting Aug 28 13:12:35 perhaps to stop google caching it? Aug 28 13:12:47 Hmm, maybe Aug 28 13:13:28 But I doubt it would get very far on the results page without any useful text anyway. Aug 28 13:13:34 damn Aug 28 13:13:39 fuckin binaries Aug 28 13:13:57 Ximon, check meta stuff etc Aug 28 13:14:01 Flemmard, what's up? Aug 28 13:14:09 Pulser: android binaries wont execut Aug 28 13:14:12 exec format failed Aug 28 13:14:13 blabla Aug 28 13:14:20 hmmmm Aug 28 13:14:27 do "file binaryname" Aug 28 13:14:29 what does it say? Aug 28 13:14:32 * Pulser recognises this Aug 28 13:14:40 sounds like a static vs dynamically compiled one Aug 28 13:14:49 well Aug 28 13:14:55 i have a busybox, that works Aug 28 13:14:59 and a sh, that doest work Aug 28 13:15:00 * Pulser prefers these kinds of issues, as I can actually help =D Aug 28 13:15:04 ok Aug 28 13:15:04 file output for both is the same Aug 28 13:15:07 right Aug 28 13:15:13 are they dynamically linked? Aug 28 13:15:20 good morning fellow touchtards. Aug 28 13:15:24 Is the Current Progress page on the wiki up to date? Aug 28 13:15:26 sh is dynamicly linked Aug 28 13:15:40 Tech, yes Aug 28 13:15:44 at present it is Aug 28 13:15:49 ok Flemmard Aug 28 13:15:50 Awesome, thanks Aug 28 13:15:53 so both are dynamic Aug 28 13:16:00 no busy is static (sorry) Aug 28 13:16:13 so that's your issue :) Aug 28 13:16:17 well Aug 28 13:16:27 this should't be a problem .. Aug 28 13:16:47 ok Aug 28 13:16:54 i dont know but Aug 28 13:16:58 if i have the libs ? Aug 28 13:17:06 if you have the libs Aug 28 13:17:11 and they are loaded properly Aug 28 13:17:15 in theory it should work Aug 28 13:17:23 (are you trying to run android binaries in webos?) Aug 28 13:17:34 no im trying to run android binaries in android :) Aug 28 13:17:43 but maybe kernel is messed up ^^ Aug 28 13:17:52 k lol Aug 28 13:17:58 what device? Aug 28 13:18:04 touchpad :D Aug 28 13:18:07 lol Aug 28 13:18:14 got it running? Aug 28 13:18:18 well Aug 28 13:18:25 i got errors because he can't run services Aug 28 13:18:29 sure Aug 28 13:18:32 sh, debuggerd, etc etc Aug 28 13:18:33 Bonjour Flemmard ;) Aug 28 13:18:33 it won't be perfect Aug 28 13:18:33 Yo dawg, I see you like android, so we put some android in your android. Aug 28 13:18:43 so it doesnt boots Aug 28 13:18:46 Flemmard, these are userspace issues though Aug 28 13:18:49 bonjour farchord Aug 28 13:18:51 which are more fun Aug 28 13:18:52 :) Aug 28 13:18:56 yeah .. Aug 28 13:19:02 * Pulser hates kernels Aug 28 13:19:08 give me userspace problems any time =D Aug 28 13:19:09 so... Aug 28 13:19:14 let's run through the basics Aug 28 13:19:30 what are you actually running, userspace wise? Self compiled AOSP? Dump? Aug 28 13:20:01 self compiled aosp Aug 28 13:20:04 okay Aug 28 13:20:04 but actually, only init runs Aug 28 13:20:27 i managed to get lvm ext3fs mounted on system Aug 28 13:20:28 dod you self compile for the right ARM target? Aug 28 13:20:31 ooh nice :) Aug 28 13:20:52 well binaries are compiled for arm aeabi Aug 28 13:20:58 if you are interested, I can give you files from what I believe should be a Dragonboard AOSP rom Aug 28 13:20:59 Attribute Section: aeabi Aug 28 13:21:01 this is gingerbread btw? Aug 28 13:21:05 yes Aug 28 13:21:10 but this is nothing really atm Aug 28 13:21:11 lol Aug 28 13:21:11 I've got the dragonboard gingerbread build here Aug 28 13:21:13 yeah sure Aug 28 13:21:14 but... Aug 28 13:21:16 what I am suggesting Aug 28 13:21:23 is we should first dump in these files Aug 28 13:21:35 since ATM we don't know in theory if this pure AOSP build CAN boot Aug 28 13:21:39 let alone shoul Aug 28 13:21:39 d Aug 28 13:21:45 well Aug 28 13:21:46 you said init is running etc Aug 28 13:21:49 are you using adb to watch it? Aug 28 13:21:55 yup Aug 28 13:21:57 got it working Aug 28 13:21:58 cool Aug 28 13:22:01 using kernel in topic? Aug 28 13:22:15 yes but modified, as it doesnt compiles, and it doesnt exports right adb thing Aug 28 13:22:29 ok Aug 28 13:22:35 so you have a kernel working Aug 28 13:22:39 and it booted webos ok? Aug 28 13:22:40 yup Aug 28 13:22:42 hm Aug 28 13:22:47 i havent tested webos with this kernel :) Aug 28 13:22:51 ok Aug 28 13:22:53 let's skip that for now Aug 28 13:22:55 i might try if you want Aug 28 13:22:57 the one in topic works fairly well Aug 28 13:22:59 nah Aug 28 13:23:01 let's not waste time Aug 28 13:23:10 it's been worked on this morning for that Aug 28 13:23:15 a copy in boot and a setenv bootfile and it's done lol Aug 28 13:23:20 true Aug 28 13:23:22 :) Aug 28 13:23:25 nah let's stick with droid Aug 28 13:23:27 aren't there some things borken with the one in the topic Aug 28 13:23:32 be daring =D Aug 28 13:23:38 vinylfreak89, touchscreen related things Aug 28 13:23:43 nothng that should prevent a proper bootup Aug 28 13:23:46 ok Aug 28 13:23:49 this sounds userland Aug 28 13:24:01 Flemmard, can you pick a binary giving you troble Aug 28 13:24:05 and give me as much info as you can on it Aug 28 13:24:12 such as "file" and anything else you have Aug 28 13:24:18 * Pulser wishes to compare them to the 8060 build Aug 28 13:24:29 rhcp couldn't get the touchscreen working at all with the linked kernel. Aug 28 13:24:47 yeah Aug 28 13:24:48 well.. Aug 28 13:24:50 at the end Aug 28 13:24:56 he thought it could just be laggy Aug 28 13:24:59 Holy shit I got tanked last night. What did I miss? Aug 28 13:25:05 SOmeone booted android with adb and sound Aug 28 13:25:12 Pulser: http://pastebin.com/xkfbb91y is this enough info ? Aug 28 13:25:23 sure Aug 28 13:25:23 Didn't craptain make a patch and get the touchscreen working? Aug 28 13:25:23 BatNode i believe the appropriate quote is "shit is getting real" Aug 28 13:25:27 what did you run to get that output? Aug 28 13:25:33 readelf -a Aug 28 13:25:37 I am about to upload the output "rom structure" of what I had Aug 28 13:25:41 for anyone who wants to play Aug 28 13:25:48 Man shit got really real. I don't remember 1/2 the night and my phone erased itself lol Aug 28 13:26:17 LOL Aug 28 13:26:23 sounds like a good night then :D Aug 28 13:26:46 Pretty sure I tried convincing my GF that a 3some with her blonde best friend was a good idea lol Aug 28 13:26:59 xD Aug 28 13:27:31 Why can't we use Honeycomb? Aug 28 13:27:36 Latest stable version? Aug 28 13:27:48 Ice_Black: No Source Code. Aug 28 13:27:48 Flemmard, Aug 28 13:27:51 Oh Aug 28 13:27:56 I have my full build dev board ROM at http://villainrom.co.uk/Touchpad/rom/ Aug 28 13:28:04 you can grab files as required if you wish Aug 28 13:28:09 let me now see about info on said files Aug 28 13:28:28 What happened to Protekk and jbruchon? I see there was a some kinda drama and they both quit yesterday? Aug 28 13:28:34 what went down? Aug 28 13:28:37 where does theses files come from Pulser ? Aug 28 13:28:42 is that gingerbread? Aug 28 13:28:47 Flemmard, I built the Dragonboard gingerbread stuff Aug 28 13:28:50 yes that is gingerbread Aug 28 13:28:58 and it could make your touchpad catch fire Aug 28 13:29:00 but I doubt it Aug 28 13:29:00 :P Aug 28 13:29:01 lol Aug 28 13:29:02 Oh shit Pulser are you running android? Aug 28 13:29:07 BatNode, nope Aug 28 13:29:09 lol Aug 28 13:29:13 but Flemmard is trying :) Aug 28 13:29:15 are there instructions how to flash that? Aug 28 13:29:23 vinylfreak89, NO THERE ARE NOT Aug 28 13:29:25 ok I lied Aug 28 13:29:27 install CM Aug 28 13:29:27 Pulser Aug 28 13:29:29 CWM* Aug 28 13:29:33 then flash zip Aug 28 13:29:36 :P Aug 28 13:29:38 there's no way to get .tar from ur system/ :D Aug 28 13:29:46 Flemmard, ? Aug 28 13:29:48 just grab the zip Aug 28 13:29:48 yeah Aug 28 13:29:49 :) Aug 28 13:29:50 lol nice Aug 28 13:29:50 oh ? Aug 28 13:29:52 ah there's a zip Aug 28 13:29:53 sorry Aug 28 13:29:57 yeah Aug 28 13:30:00 if you want just one file Aug 28 13:30:02 just grab it Aug 28 13:30:05 if not grab zip Aug 28 13:30:06 remind me again how to install cwm Aug 28 13:30:07 lolz Aug 28 13:30:10 lulz Aug 28 13:30:19 that's the challenge :P Aug 28 13:30:25 my fourth Dell xps motherboard shit the bed fhgf5ufuy Aug 28 13:30:26 900KB/s Aug 28 13:30:27 pff :P Aug 28 13:30:29 whats his ace Aug 28 13:30:31 meh Aug 28 13:30:32 *face Aug 28 13:30:33 that's shite Aug 28 13:30:34 it's 100mbps Aug 28 13:30:35 posted yesterday Aug 28 13:30:36 :) Aug 28 13:30:39 1039 Aug 28 13:30:42 im too lazy to scroll up Aug 28 13:30:43 where are you? Aug 28 13:30:43 lolz Aug 28 13:30:44 (i can normally go up to 2000) Aug 28 13:30:46 france Aug 28 13:30:47 aye Aug 28 13:30:48 hmmm Aug 28 13:30:50 that is in DE Aug 28 13:31:00 blame the french internet I vote :) Aug 28 13:31:18 lol Aug 28 13:31:24 900k aint bad Aug 28 13:31:30 I used to roll with 64k Aug 28 13:31:33 french internet is good :) Aug 28 13:31:41 so on my "sh" binary Aug 28 13:31:44 I have this info Aug 28 13:31:52 i copy on ext3 Aug 28 13:31:54 and test :) Aug 28 13:31:57 http://pastie.org/2443264 Aug 28 13:31:58 pulser do u have a touchpad? Aug 28 13:32:03 vinylfreak89, I do indeed Aug 28 13:32:06 sitting on my desk Aug 28 13:32:11 have u tried flashing ur own rom Aug 28 13:32:12 lol Aug 28 13:32:15 no Aug 28 13:32:17 I was trolling Aug 28 13:32:24 you won't be able to flash it in CWM Aug 28 13:32:25 :P Aug 28 13:32:25 uhhh Aug 28 13:32:26 oh Aug 28 13:32:29 bastard Aug 28 13:32:32 it's a joke Aug 28 13:32:36 flash something? Aug 28 13:32:41 flemmard, any firesale in france yet? Aug 28 13:32:41 flash it in CWM, that required a fully working CWM :P Aug 28 13:32:44 do u know how to flash it Aug 28 13:32:59 vinylfreak89, look you don't use cwm to flash right now Aug 28 13:33:02 you would dd stuff Aug 28 13:33:04 from bootie Aug 28 13:33:05 I think Aug 28 13:33:05 BTW, http://cryptkcoding.com/whatdowehavehere.jpg - dual boot webOS/Angstrom Aug 28 13:33:10 right Aug 28 13:33:15 im just not sure how or what to do with that Aug 28 13:33:16 lol Aug 28 13:33:30 wtf is angstrom Aug 28 13:33:43 a linux distribution Aug 28 13:33:45 I can't read that but I will give it a thumbs up just because it looks cool. Aug 28 13:34:01 awecome, they got the kernel working last night. Aug 28 13:34:08 Does anyone know if it had adp? Aug 28 13:34:12 yes adb Aug 28 13:34:18 vinylfreak89, for now don't bother Aug 28 13:34:19 sweet. Aug 28 13:34:22 rwhitby: bice Aug 28 13:34:22 Pulser there's an image file flashing around? Aug 28 13:34:23 just wait on progress to be made Aug 28 13:34:26 rwhitby, nice :) Aug 28 13:34:28 *nice Aug 28 13:34:29 siestacatontp, no Aug 28 13:34:43 gah would people stop asking if they can just flash android on their TP? Aug 28 13:34:47 please :) Aug 28 13:34:51 LOL... Aug 28 13:34:51 aiight Aug 28 13:34:54 tyvm Aug 28 13:34:58 right Flemmard Aug 28 13:34:59 yea, just wait people Aug 28 13:35:03 LOL... Aug 28 13:35:04 well i was just going to try it with my ekrnel Aug 28 13:35:07 if there was a way to dd it Aug 28 13:35:07 nice, so there has been good progress in the last few days :) Aug 28 13:35:15 loool Aug 28 13:35:16 wait for a public release, like me :D, you don't want to fuck up your touchpad. Aug 28 13:35:18 vinylfreak89, talk to flemmard about that Aug 28 13:35:27 if you want to know about writing stuff onto it Aug 28 13:35:28 where's the wiki status page? Aug 28 13:35:35 aiiight Aug 28 13:35:35 http://team-touchdroid.com/wiki/index.php?title=Current_Progress Aug 28 13:35:36 thank ya Aug 28 13:35:38 I am willing to flash devshit to my touchpad when it becomes available Aug 28 13:35:48 as am i Aug 28 13:35:51 is it working yet? Aug 28 13:36:00 * Pulser facepalms Aug 28 13:36:01 Also what does CWM stand for Aug 28 13:36:03 * Wulfegang sighs Aug 28 13:36:07 clockworkmod recovery is CWM Aug 28 13:36:10 ClockWork Mod Aug 28 13:36:11 Ahhhh Aug 28 13:36:14 Danny_, http://team-touchdroid.com/wiki/index.php?title=Current_Progress for info Aug 28 13:36:32 Pulser, there is no end to the questions is there? Aug 28 13:36:37 Flatspin, no there isn't Aug 28 13:36:46 Pulser: looks like not better Aug 28 13:36:51 OK :( Aug 28 13:36:52 right Aug 28 13:37:09 any idea if anyone is looking into getting ios running on the touchpad???? Aug 28 13:37:16 i dont like when the tab doesnt reboots >< Aug 28 13:37:22 ... Aug 28 13:37:23 Flemmard, indeed Aug 28 13:37:34 Danny_, nobody in here is, perhaps ask #touchpad Aug 28 13:37:39 this room is for Android onto it Aug 28 13:37:50 join #touchios Aug 28 13:37:54 Danny_ wtf> Aug 28 13:37:54 and for developer only Aug 28 13:37:57 rofl rqio Aug 28 13:37:59 why in the world would u want ios on the touchpad Aug 28 13:37:59 raio Aug 28 13:38:04 touchios, cheerios Aug 28 13:38:06 why would you want ios on it anyways? Aug 28 13:38:11 lol Aug 28 13:38:14 Does anyone know if the kernel they have working is 2.6.35 ? Aug 28 13:38:19 running iOS on non apple devices is going to be a total whore Aug 28 13:38:23 Flatspin, yeah it says it is Aug 28 13:38:25 Danny_, but for the record, I don't think it's possible. iOS is built for PPC processors. Android/webOS is ARM. Aug 28 13:38:26 lol raio why u ban me :P Aug 28 13:38:29 xD Aug 28 13:38:32 for the lulz Aug 28 13:38:35 farchord: wrong Aug 28 13:38:48 Awesome. Should be able to couple that with the Qcom system I compiled last night. Aug 28 13:38:50 but i wantz the applz on my touchpads Aug 28 13:38:52 uh... Aug 28 13:39:01 farchord: iOS is on ARM devices Aug 28 13:39:02 I think iOS can be used in ARM can't it? Aug 28 13:39:05 yeah Aug 28 13:39:07 lol Aug 28 13:39:15 ah, didnt know. Well anyway, no drivers XD Aug 28 13:39:16 all iOS devices are ARM Aug 28 13:39:18 ummm Aug 28 13:39:21 Ok, off to go pull the git Aug 28 13:39:23 the A4 is an arm chip isn't it Aug 28 13:39:53 the kernel is palm/webOS internals based....35 patched for 1.5ghz afaict Aug 28 13:40:00 vinylfreak89: as is the S5L8900x, S5L8720, S5L8920, and S5L8930 Aug 28 13:40:22 Hello ladies Aug 28 13:40:31 do we have an ETA??? Aug 28 13:40:38 * Wulfegang sighs Aug 28 13:40:39 William, no we don't, as we never do have one Aug 28 13:40:44 it's out now! Aug 28 13:40:50 go google it, you'll find it Aug 28 13:40:51 william: can't be bothered to read the topic eh? Aug 28 13:40:52 WHATS OUT Aug 28 13:40:53 OHGAWD Aug 28 13:40:57 DOES THIS MEAN WE FINALLY GET PORNIOGRAPHY. Aug 28 13:41:06 Pulser: well, now it doesnt do 'exec format failed' Aug 28 13:41:08 would it be easier trying to port IOS than Android??? Aug 28 13:41:14 Flemmard, right Aug 28 13:41:14 Guest28471 > Aug 28 13:41:17 but just Aug 28 13:41:17 get the FUCK out > Aug 28 13:41:17 <3>init: untracked pid 122 exited Aug 28 13:41:19 now. Aug 28 13:41:27 Guest29799, well, no.... Aug 28 13:41:30 just,.... no Aug 28 13:41:31 yes, much easier. just plug them together. Aug 28 13:41:33 Porting ios would be illegal. Aug 28 13:41:33 .. wrong guest lmfao Aug 28 13:41:36 ^ Aug 28 13:41:36 I detect troll.... Aug 28 13:41:38 whocares. Aug 28 13:41:50 thats like saying running osx on intels was illegal! Aug 28 13:41:52 lol Aug 28 13:42:01 wow Aug 28 13:42:04 :D Aug 28 13:42:07 jimmydoodle, non-apple hardware, it is illegal, sortof Aug 28 13:42:16 If you purchase it, you can't purchase iOS Aug 28 13:42:27 lol, stop talking ios Aug 28 13:42:31 Can't purchase a copy to install on whatever you want :P Aug 28 13:42:37 So Android wins. Aug 28 13:42:40 i think there already is iOS on the pre Aug 28 13:42:50 I don't think too many people care about the legality of it. Aug 28 13:42:54 see the part where i said Aug 28 13:42:57 who the hell cares. Aug 28 13:43:02 loool Aug 28 13:43:04 hah Aug 28 13:43:10 I hate iOS anyway :P Aug 28 13:43:20 apple was 80 billion dollars stashed, do they not? Aug 28 13:43:21 fuck them. Aug 28 13:43:43 Give it to the US government. Aug 28 13:43:44 why would you want that crappy software anyways, the reason most people use android is to get away from crapple Aug 28 13:44:03 Exactly, idk why that guy wanted it. Aug 28 13:44:10 give it to the tea party, is a better idea! Aug 28 13:44:14 he didnt, he was trolling obviously Aug 28 13:44:16 Lol Aug 28 13:44:36 the reason most people use android is because its the only other option to apple Aug 28 13:44:42 webos isnt a viable alternative as it is Aug 28 13:44:42 lmfao Aug 28 13:45:04 anyone wants to sell a touchpad ??? Aug 28 13:45:08 Isn't that the reason for this channel? Aug 28 13:45:19 Wanting android. Aug 28 13:45:46 ./join #touchsales Aug 28 13:45:57 take it to #touchiOS Aug 28 13:46:02 id rather see people turning webos into something fun =( Aug 28 13:46:16 I still haven't got to try webos... Aug 28 13:46:58 chessmaster: Run it in an emulator? Aug 28 13:47:09 WebOS is really nice, but it only has 3 apps Aug 28 13:47:19 lol ^^ Aug 28 13:47:29 Meh, emulator doesn't have back buttons :P Aug 28 13:47:30 Nazgul07: Pretty much Aug 28 13:47:58 DAMN YOU NAZGURL. Aug 28 13:48:01 YOU HAUNT ME. Aug 28 13:48:11 My TP I ordered a week ago with 2 day shipping still isn't here... Aug 28 13:48:14 im surprised at how many xda-dev people are invovled/in these rooms Aug 28 13:48:18 jimmydoodle: lol Aug 28 13:48:47 This room is empty and lonely. Aug 28 13:48:59 xda ppl love android Aug 28 13:49:01 is full and boring Aug 28 13:49:04 you want empty and lonely? Aug 28 13:49:09 TRY MY BED. Aug 28 13:49:20 actrually #xda-devs hates android Aug 28 13:49:22 dont you know that Aug 28 13:49:22 one hand party? Aug 28 13:49:22 lmfao Aug 28 13:49:39 after webOS even miui doesn't seem as sweet Aug 28 13:50:03 no, xda-dev hate each other. so much hate over there, still a good community though Aug 28 13:50:11 I said it and I say it again. Amiga on TP FTW Aug 28 13:50:11 although miui on the tp might look cool Aug 28 13:50:18 the forum is shit Aug 28 13:50:21 has been since flar ran off Aug 28 13:50:23 or whatever Aug 28 13:50:26 the one thing that drives me nuts is the notification system. Aug 28 13:50:29 i was never really invovled with it Aug 28 13:50:41 the channel however has always been quite .. good. Aug 28 13:50:48 i guess i just got lucky with my phone then Aug 28 13:51:03 which phone Aug 28 13:51:08 dinc Aug 28 13:51:25 blehqueer. Aug 28 13:51:39 i run miui now though, so not on xda much anymore Aug 28 13:51:48 I doubt this project is going to be anywhere near as bad as the so Aug 28 13:52:03 ny Ericsson x10 Aug 28 13:52:39 why cant i find my dvd spindle. Aug 28 13:53:19 jimmydoodle: did you check your @ss? Aug 28 13:53:22 i hae it Aug 28 13:53:24 *ate it Aug 28 13:53:29 devs had a hard time with it Aug 28 13:53:42 .. Aug 28 13:53:44 my ass is not that large. Aug 28 13:53:44 =( Aug 28 13:53:45 hehe Aug 28 13:54:00 but cracked it none the less Aug 28 13:56:15 is this channel is for monitoring the progress of touchdroid? Aug 28 13:57:12 No it's to monitor McDonald's progress on making a full meat patty. Aug 28 13:57:24 i think you're in the wrong place Aug 28 13:57:29 this is for people who like to touch droids Aug 28 13:57:34 mmmm c3po Aug 28 13:57:40 LOL Aug 28 13:57:50 * farchord dreams of doing a Darlik. Aug 28 13:57:52 * Nick-C beeps and boops Aug 28 13:58:09 just wondering cause it's so off topic Aug 28 13:58:23 irc virgin? Aug 28 14:01:17 farchord, ready? Aug 28 14:01:32 fo....oh! Well, is the screen working now? Aug 28 14:01:44 craptain got it working last night Aug 28 14:01:48 cool Aug 28 14:01:50 I'm in Aug 28 14:02:02 was charging my cell phone, but screw it, it can die Aug 28 14:02:06 but your buddy who also claims you say im a troll disrupt the whole comunication Aug 28 14:02:11 so im not sure how he did it Aug 28 14:02:21 oh no Aug 28 14:02:25 man is early morning Aug 28 14:02:28 no one is here Aug 28 14:02:34 take your time charging stuff Aug 28 14:02:40 im off today as well Aug 28 14:02:44 so we go all day Aug 28 14:02:52 well no like I said I didnt care Aug 28 14:03:00 Craptain got his touchscreen working? Aug 28 14:03:06 yes Aug 28 14:03:09 Fuck yes Aug 28 14:03:10 of course he id Aug 28 14:03:12 did Aug 28 14:03:18 and the only thing I really kinda did say against you samcripp is when you unleashed drama in this chan 2-3 days ago that was all lol Aug 28 14:03:32 @SamCripp your mortal enemy isn't in the room Aug 28 14:04:03 and rightly or wrongly, it was "dramatic"! Aug 28 14:04:09 lol Aug 28 14:04:28 i dont unleash, i make obvious, you giuys need to understand, im working blind, now for a wqeek, and each and every time im about to begin working with someone, this kid walks in the room and begins telling people it dosnt matter, is not helpful yadda yadda yadda Aug 28 14:04:42 I dont have anything against the kid. But afaik he didnt contribute anything yet Aug 28 14:04:45 just some empty promises Aug 28 14:04:53 I'm paraphrasing, but I did enjoy the "prepubecent twat" or was it "twit" comment Aug 28 14:04:56 "I have this and that working but won't tell anyone" Aug 28 14:05:24 ima show you guys something Aug 28 14:05:29 SamCripp, was able to fix my linux install last night, was a corrupt xsession cache, prefer linux or Winblows? Aug 28 14:05:44 ouch Aug 28 14:05:46 http://pastebin.com/XgY5jQyj Aug 28 14:05:50 this was from 3 days ago Aug 28 14:05:55 when i banned hiom Aug 28 14:06:02 i was gonna let him back in Aug 28 14:06:18 from that day on is poop Aug 28 14:06:24 anyways Aug 28 14:06:27 farchord, Aug 28 14:06:36 please make sure you back your tp up Aug 28 14:06:44 how do I do that? XD Aug 28 14:07:01 there's nothing important on it Aug 28 14:07:02 anyone good with novacom here Aug 28 14:07:18 every single partition is important Aug 28 14:07:41 ah ok, so start in recovery mode, hold on Aug 28 14:07:47 SamCripp is a super dope booting blind pimp Aug 28 14:08:03 BatNode, i honestly just want to make an installer Aug 28 14:08:10 Do it up Aug 28 14:08:16 so we can do it globaly Aug 28 14:08:26 and people will shut up, and get off our backs Aug 28 14:08:40 Recovery mode on, launching novacom Aug 28 14:08:41 but without doing the process myself is hard to write the scritps Aug 28 14:08:52 imnot sure if anyof you learn by doing but i do >< Aug 28 14:09:29 I sure have to do it to learn it Aug 28 14:09:35 SamCripp are you still running blind or did you get your hands on a TP? Aug 28 14:09:40 k im connected to novacom sam Aug 28 14:09:44 blind dude Aug 28 14:09:49 is so annoying Aug 28 14:09:53 fun Aug 28 14:09:53 okay Aug 28 14:09:55 Sam - would a remote desktop be easier? Aug 28 14:09:57 give me a sec Aug 28 14:09:59 I am still waiting for mine Aug 28 14:10:05 BatNode, it be the same thing Aug 28 14:10:12 SamCripp, actually, got an idea rq, hold on Aug 28 14:10:26 BatNode, is also never my intention to keep work from anyone, so we can all learn working here Aug 28 14:11:17 I love you SamCripp Aug 28 14:11:26 No homo Aug 28 14:11:28 this is my second goal, but this is for when i have a tp or 2 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Boot_Chain Aug 28 14:11:32 dual booting Aug 28 14:11:55 I have posted some information here that could be useful: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1K24KdGNLhaTICV1LXSRLdA8GyyrKAP31uj_LrKU8OG0/edit?hl=en_US Aug 28 14:12:05 ok Aug 28 14:12:17 SamCripp, http://ustream.tv/farchords Aug 28 14:12:29 ahhh Aug 28 14:12:30 hold on Aug 28 14:12:32 We're sorry, the page you requested cannot be found. Aug 28 14:12:34 ah, that is helpful Aug 28 14:12:55 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/farchords Aug 28 14:13:07 farchord, how familiar are you with novacom? Aug 28 14:13:11 im not Aug 28 14:13:16 im not either Aug 28 14:13:27 anyone in the room with novacom experience Aug 28 14:13:28 farchord quality too low Aug 28 14:13:30 I have created a gingerbread build using just about the only other device that uses an APQ8060 Aug 28 14:14:00 TecKnight, yeah I have that too Aug 28 14:14:04 farchord turn that shit up Aug 28 14:14:07 the driver dev kit instructions? Aug 28 14:14:08 Video quality's on max Aug 28 14:14:10 TecKnight, ima make a device tree later today, maybe you can use that to rebuild Aug 28 14:14:16 wtf Aug 28 14:14:22 so far anyway. It's a Qualcomm developer device designed to promote the processor Aug 28 14:14:48 there Aug 28 14:14:49 farchord, thats a bit too blurry Aug 28 14:14:50 that might help Aug 28 14:14:52 zomg I'm watching farchord waiting for porn Aug 28 14:15:05 lol Aug 28 14:15:06 I have the complete build at: http://t3c.us/touch Aug 28 14:15:19 OMFG TECH IS IT FLASHABLE? Aug 28 14:15:35 It should be Aug 28 14:15:38 you make me feel so lalala Aug 28 14:15:43 So, do the performance issues that the internal WebOS devs complained about (showcasing webos on ipad) expect to cause same issues on any android build? Aug 28 14:15:45 I don't have my TP yet Aug 28 14:15:49 farchord, so lets back up your internals Aug 28 14:16:11 TecKnight, I have a 32g TP I can test with. Aug 28 14:16:15 ok Aug 28 14:16:22 in b4 trsohmers Aug 28 14:16:35 It is my belief that the Android build found on a Touchpad was derived from this Aug 28 14:17:07 This is from the Qcom source? Aug 28 14:17:33 The complete build with source and binary images is at: http://t3c.us/touch Aug 28 14:17:39 yes Aug 28 14:17:40 Flatspin, theres source for qcom built Aug 28 14:17:43 ? Aug 28 14:17:43 SamCripp, I have the dump ready as well as all the other crap, waiting for commands :) Aug 28 14:18:18 i dont know novacom commands sowe hit a brick wall there Aug 28 14:18:26 Yes, read this: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1K24KdGNLhaTICV1LXSRLdA8GyyrKAP31uj_LrKU8OG0/edit?hl=en_US Aug 28 14:18:28 TecKnight, I built that last night but it didn't build a boot.img. I'm trying to look at yours now Aug 28 14:18:40 OK cool Aug 28 14:19:00 that isnt gonna boot Aug 28 14:19:15 yes its same cpu as ours Aug 28 14:19:22 but board specifics are different Aug 28 14:19:27 anyone know how to get in shell from novacom? Aug 28 14:19:43 the source is out there *facepalme* Aug 28 14:19:45 farchord???? Novacom is a shell Aug 28 14:19:53 I mean, file access and the like. Aug 28 14:20:11 you mean remote file access? Aug 28 14:20:15 yes Aug 28 14:20:20 from recovery mode Aug 28 14:20:25 rz950, so it won't even boot you don't think ? Aug 28 14:20:29 no Aug 28 14:20:43 i agree Aug 28 14:20:46 difference in how flash is mapped or something like that ? Aug 28 14:20:54 board specifics Aug 28 14:21:11 TecKnight, you need to look at a device tree Aug 28 14:21:22 in tp kernel (webos one) the board is tenderloin and that would need to be ported over to the source you used or a newer one Aug 28 14:21:22 Do you think this source could be used as a starting point ? Aug 28 14:21:58 so noone can help trying to get access to the files to see if this thing works? <.< Aug 28 14:22:04 in the android tp but we have no source to that, the board specifics is topiz or something like that (might have misspelled :P) Aug 28 14:22:32 farchord, I think what you are wanting is a way to move the kernel to the TP to try and boot, right? Aug 28 14:22:34 sorry, I am new to android build creation, but have been a developer for quite a while Aug 28 14:22:50 Flatspin, yes and also Aug 28 14:22:52 Flatspin, amongst other things, wanna backup first Aug 28 14:22:55 Topaz Aug 28 14:22:58 how to get the current stuff out of it Aug 28 14:23:10 hang on Aug 28 14:23:12 we are not familiar with novacom commands Aug 28 14:23:41 Ok, TecKnight, you're webserver is SLOW but from what I've seen so far, I can't even find any .img files. Aug 28 14:23:46 58k in mass without power charge em if you got em Aug 28 14:23:56 yes it is slow.. sorry Aug 28 14:24:30 Ok, go into dev mode and novacom and do a command like this: Aug 28 14:24:33 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_Exploration_-_Various_Information Aug 28 14:24:36 helpful? Aug 28 14:24:39 tar cvfz /media/internal/downloads/backup.tar.gz / --exclude '/media/internal/downloads/* Aug 28 14:24:57 That will backup most everything. NOT for recovery though Aug 28 14:25:10 Recovery would need to be done with WebOS Doctor I believe Aug 28 14:25:16 Flatspin, um, I'm in novacom, not the linux shell Aug 28 14:25:26 I have appsboot.mbn appsboot.raw emmc_appsboot.mbn Aug 28 14:25:37 Flatspin, recovery already runs Aug 28 14:25:39 emmc_appsboot.raw Aug 28 14:25:46 emmcboot.mbn Aug 28 14:26:13 Flatspin, http://www.ustream.tv/channel/farchords Aug 28 14:26:25 what folder would have the .img files ? Aug 28 14:26:56 I know to write the boot image with novacom, it's "novacom boot mem:// < path/to/image Aug 28 14:27:04 TecKnight, also the bootima is uimage Aug 28 14:27:22 whoops, didn't close my parenthesis.. Aug 28 14:29:12 EEEK THIS IS EXCITING Aug 28 14:29:30 Wait it didn't do anything Aug 28 14:29:32 crap farchord, I can't read that video.. Aug 28 14:30:11 What is that error message Aug 28 14:30:16 I can sort of make it out..... "program piles" Aug 28 14:30:26 "File cannot be found" Aug 28 14:30:46 somebody needs to go all Mission Impossible at Qualcomm and get that sourcecode. Aug 28 14:30:55 That command aint correct, it cant backup from it Aug 28 14:31:03 farchord, what are you trying to flash there? Aug 28 14:31:04 According to the doc the bootloaded is flashed with: Aug 28 14:31:26 fastboot flash aboot emmc_appsboot.mbn Aug 28 14:31:42 yes Aug 28 14:31:47 fastboot isnt in this device Aug 28 14:31:58 I think that requires an existing adb kernel Aug 28 14:32:03 WEbos isn't Aug 28 14:32:11 no Aug 28 14:32:15 adb isnt fastboot Aug 28 14:32:23 or vice versa Aug 28 14:32:25 Can we install fastboot on it? Aug 28 14:32:29 I see what you mean Aug 28 14:32:38 I thought that was it's communication layer Aug 28 14:32:48 fastboot is basically like novacom Aug 28 14:33:02 you know what, lemme try justin.tv hold on Aug 28 14:33:14 farchord, just make your font bigger maybe Aug 28 14:33:41 novacom is the fastboot of tp, except it has a lot more delightful stuff Aug 28 14:33:52 Ahh, ok Aug 28 14:33:53 The instructions I have indicate you have to add a line like this: Aug 28 14:33:57 SUBSYSTEM=="usb",SYSFS{idVendor}=="05c6", MODE="0666” Aug 28 14:34:12 the n umber of the beast? Aug 28 14:34:14 to /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules Aug 28 14:34:20 That's just for getting udev to setup the usb port correctly Aug 28 14:34:32 so that adb will recognise the device Aug 28 14:34:34 well farchord let me know if you figure out back up Aug 28 14:34:43 Anyone know the command to generate the .config file for the kernel linked in the topic? Aug 28 14:34:52 otherwise im not gonna push foward and possibly cause harm to your device Aug 28 14:34:57 however, that doesn't mean it will respond correctly Aug 28 14:35:44 you guys could just skip the backup now and get a DD of someone else's TP later if needed Aug 28 14:36:24 WebOS Doctor... Aug 28 14:36:28 Seriously folks, you don't need to backup. Aug 28 14:36:48 It will completely reflash your device back to WebOS Aug 28 14:36:52 Flatspin, webos doctor wont fix it if we replace a partition Aug 28 14:36:54 I have seen a few reports that WebOSDr wont' save you if you mess up the boot partition ... is this true? Aug 28 14:37:04 Oh .. that answers that :) Aug 28 14:37:17 http://j-tv.me/mTjCkL Aug 28 14:37:20 That's not what I've been told by some WebOS people. Aug 28 14:37:23 there Aug 28 14:37:26 looks better now Aug 28 14:37:40 Flatspin, the webos people came in here and warned us it woudnt Aug 28 14:37:48 farchord, novacom get file://klog Aug 28 14:37:52 Oh, well then... Aug 28 14:38:15 thats just an example of get command Aug 28 14:38:41 this is interesting Aug 28 14:39:31 very Aug 28 14:39:31 ok so what do we do now? Aug 28 14:40:33 SamCripp - I admit to being a neophyte on this, but I've been hacking at it for a day or two now .... I've been looking at using the WebOsDr Jar file (replacing the WebOS.Tar and Topaz.xml files) with the android partions .. and leaving the Normal boot partition alone .... is anyone else working in that direction? Aug 28 14:40:35 you know farchord it prob be best we dd some images and then "get" them off Aug 28 14:40:55 SamCripp, yep, how? Aug 28 14:41:12 you need to be on webos and gain terminal acess Aug 28 14:41:19 and hopefully dd is in there Aug 28 14:41:53 Zaphod-Beeble, idk if anyone is working in that direction Aug 28 14:41:55 Well we can install linux apps Aug 28 14:42:02 why not install Xterm Aug 28 14:42:05 BatNode, nice to know Aug 28 14:42:22 BatNode, wait Aug 28 14:42:22 can I ssh into the tablet? Aug 28 14:42:32 Yea if you install the service Aug 28 14:42:41 do you mean in a chroot enviorment BatNode Aug 28 14:42:42 there is an openssh for webos Aug 28 14:42:44 SamCripp, I think it will be the "easiest" way to experiment .... and probably safest. Aug 28 14:43:01 That's a good idea: re: dd Aug 28 14:43:55 Zaphod-Beeble, if it was up to me and hi had a device, i would already had attempted partitioning nand and dual booting, seems to me is easier to do that than to be fighting with scripts and mount looping Aug 28 14:44:17 thanks TecKnight i try but im working blind Aug 28 14:44:40 Well, I have faith in you guys Aug 28 14:44:47 SamCripp, Well I'm game. I have a 32gb in hand, I'm connected to Novaterm right now ... DD is avail ... and I've already built the Snapdragon Gingerbread build :) Aug 28 14:44:59 wait Aug 28 14:45:06 dd is available in novaterm Aug 28 14:45:07 >< Aug 28 14:45:10 Shit yea Aug 28 14:45:16 this is so frustrating Aug 28 14:45:19 lol Aug 28 14:45:26 aiiterebootin Aug 28 14:45:29 @SamCripp - No. afaik you can install them nativly Aug 28 14:45:35 The linux apps I mean Aug 28 14:46:09 k back in recovery Aug 28 14:46:15 oh crap Aug 28 14:46:40 damn Aug 28 14:47:00 Zaphod-Beeble, are you good with nova? Aug 28 14:47:03 We all know what that means Aug 28 14:47:10 any updates? Aug 28 14:47:40 no sorry mick_ no updates Aug 28 14:47:41 @samCripp I'm much more of a Windows guy, but I can fumble my way around linux. Aug 28 14:48:05 @samcripp - I managed to setup an Ubuntu VM and get android compiled. Aug 28 14:48:43 The snapdragon gingerbread build won't help to much Aug 28 14:48:44 SamCripp, I'm in recovery, what now? Aug 28 14:48:47 Sti Aug 28 14:48:57 well, we need to dd webos images Aug 28 14:49:03 ok Aug 28 14:49:20 You still need bootloader and kernel, which aren't compatible between the Dragonboard and retail device Aug 28 14:49:24 @trsohmers Don't thing? why? Aug 28 14:49:27 make sure you have some images you can push if we fuck up Aug 28 14:49:30 Ah. Ok. Aug 28 14:49:40 SamCripp, yep Aug 28 14:50:30 did rh_cp and tm_zt_ get the recovery working last night? and which one did they choose? when i left they where about to choose between cwm and qualcomm recovery Aug 28 14:50:47 farchord, please note/write down the comands you are using to do so Aug 28 14:50:50 like if it s Aug 28 14:50:53 Problem is, if you screw around with Bootie and it borks…there isn't really a way to restore it, even with dd Aug 28 14:50:57 novacom dd whatever Aug 28 14:51:01 sure Aug 28 14:51:06 but idk the commands :S Aug 28 14:51:09 will make it easier when i go to write the scripts Aug 28 14:51:12 oh Aug 28 14:51:22 Zaphod-Beeble, novacom dd? Aug 28 14:51:27 Unless you decide to rip the NAND out of the device and somehow attach it to your computer Aug 28 14:51:28 is that the dd commands in novacom Aug 28 14:51:29 I did a make clean and am rebuilding... not sure why I didn't have a boot.img Aug 28 14:52:11 dd if= bs=1k conv=sync,noerror of=partition.img? Aug 28 14:52:13 k1l, recovery its on its way Aug 28 14:52:16 its booting Aug 28 14:52:23 @samcripp Not sure. I just did 'linux command line' from QuickInstall ... and dd is avail at the linux level of the tablet... Aug 28 14:52:24 sweet Aug 28 14:52:34 LOL Aug 28 14:52:40 @samcrip I guess you already knew that ... you need it in Novaterm at bootloader status, right? Aug 28 14:52:41 k farchord Aug 28 14:52:45 SamCripp: when i left they were fiddeling with fbe settings iirc Aug 28 14:52:48 we are goi to reboot again Aug 28 14:52:50 @samcripp before it gets mounted? Aug 28 14:52:55 lol ok Aug 28 14:53:03 lol Aug 28 14:53:15 I did Vol + Plus Powerup Aug 28 14:53:23 and now its standing on the USB logo Aug 28 14:53:26 so which recovery do you use atm? cwm or the one from the qualcomm repo? Aug 28 14:53:28 nah we can dd from webos Aug 28 14:53:33 oy, power just went out three times in the past 10 minutes Aug 28 14:53:45 you gonna die Aug 28 14:54:05 is it true that jbrohon left and that the CM team might have something booting? Aug 28 14:54:15 We are barely getting anything in Maine Aug 28 14:54:19 a bit of rain Aug 28 14:54:20 k1l, we arent using any recovery at the moment, a group of folks are working on it, so yes the tools provided by hp and qualcom are still the ones to use Aug 28 14:54:38 SimsDelt : CM team? Aug 28 14:54:40 kk, thx :) Aug 28 14:54:43 SimsDelt, no idea, you could ask in #cyanogemod Aug 28 14:54:48 #cyanogenmod Aug 28 14:54:52 sorry about that Aug 28 14:55:36 siestacatPC, hey atleast is a day off Aug 28 14:56:52 i really do hope cm team got it booting Aug 28 14:57:08 Me too. CM7 with Tablet tweaks is next best thing to HC Aug 28 14:57:12 From what I heard, the CM team don't have it booting just yet Aug 28 14:57:22 What's the CM team? Aug 28 14:57:26 I thought there were only 2. Aug 28 14:57:30 Zaphod-Beeble, never ran cm on a tablet Aug 28 14:57:34 I know kmobs is on it Aug 28 14:57:34 i do work on cm tho Aug 28 14:58:08 by booting you mean a full graphical boot? Aug 28 14:58:14 not just a minimalist command line? Aug 28 14:58:31 SamCripp : ah, yeah Aug 28 14:58:32 siestacat go ask in #cyanogenmod Aug 28 14:58:40 oh, cm team Aug 28 14:58:43 They haven't booted anything yet as far as I know Aug 28 14:58:44 i would bet they already have commandline Aug 28 14:58:44 cyanogen Aug 28 14:58:52 well, they booted a recovery Aug 28 14:58:55 but not full android Aug 28 14:59:00 cm is extremly versitile Aug 28 14:59:39 changing my nick on here? Aug 28 14:59:42 I forget the command Aug 28 14:59:54 /nick Aug 28 14:59:55 ./nick penisman Aug 28 15:00:07 @samcripp I was running it on my G-Tab ... replicates the Back/Home buttons in status bar & can put status bar on bottom ... will be very handy items on a touchpad with no buttons :) Aug 28 15:00:14 SamCripp, I think I found something hold on Aug 28 15:00:23 nice Aug 28 15:00:47 damn it Aug 28 15:00:50 phone still on Aug 28 15:01:06 Zaphod-Beeble, a CM rom is fine on a tablet now that they replicate honeycomb style buttons Aug 28 15:01:22 about to say we can do that too Aug 28 15:01:31 lol Aug 28 15:01:47 if you guys could see my mock up layer you would laugh Aug 28 15:02:13 SamCripp, dude, the webos doctor contains the webos.tar Aug 28 15:02:15 :) Aug 28 15:02:16 just an fyi Aug 28 15:02:27 farchord, yeah I've been looking at webos.tar Aug 28 15:02:31 @+pulser I agree. While I would prefer Honeycomb, to get access to the {few} fragments/API based apps, there is absolutely nothing wrong with CM7 & Tablet tweaks Aug 28 15:02:33 seems useful Aug 28 15:02:42 Zaphod-Beeble, well once we have gingerbread booting Aug 28 15:02:44 Just out of curiosity, SamCripp, if you don't have a touchpad, what is your interest in getting it booting android? Aug 28 15:02:46 then we can start to look at HC Aug 28 15:03:12 SwiftJudgement_, do you see the constant bombarment of people comming here asking for etas Aug 28 15:03:18 i want that too end Aug 28 15:03:26 and it will end when people can play with android Aug 28 15:03:30 best reason evar Aug 28 15:03:30 so why not Aug 28 15:03:48 I always thought that we should just make the buttons pop up when we press the home button and it'll give us like "Home, search, back, menu" Aug 28 15:04:00 BatNode, home button would crap out Aug 28 15:04:03 theres always buttonsavior Aug 28 15:04:06 I would prefer on the screen all the time Aug 28 15:04:07 very ncie app Aug 28 15:04:07 but meh... Aug 28 15:04:10 this is besides the point Aug 28 15:04:15 we need to get it booting =D Aug 28 15:04:21 Why would the home button crap out? Aug 28 15:04:28 brb Aug 28 15:04:31 Actually, I think you will find alot more compatibility, esp with games if you run CM rather than a 3.1 or 3.2 kernel Aug 28 15:04:35 SamCripp: Works for me. I'm glad you are helping, just wasn't sure the motivation. Aug 28 15:04:41 @samcripp Yes, Buttonsavior would work too. Aug 28 15:04:59 BatNode, I am just imagining the feel of the button on my TP Aug 28 15:05:04 SamCripp is doing it for the chicks. Chicks dig devs. Aug 28 15:05:11 lol Aug 28 15:05:15 and the ability to ask for a touchpad haha Aug 28 15:05:16 I don't think it's designed for being pressed every time you would hit menu, back, home, or search Aug 28 15:05:18 on an android phone Aug 28 15:05:22 Ok, while farchord is off doing something, can anyone tell me if there is a .config file for the above linked kernel source? Aug 28 15:05:28 Flatspin, Aug 28 15:05:31 SwiftJudgement_, trust me, i dont need the mney, and as far as im concern, craptain won the money, he made it boot, and explain here to a crow of other folks, how to make it boot, as a matter of fact if it wasnt for craptain i woudnt know how to make it boot, as im working blind Aug 28 15:05:35 there's a defconfig Aug 28 15:05:37 called Aug 28 15:05:57 Wookiebush, if you only knew how true that is, my gf gets horny when im hacking away at code Aug 28 15:06:03 make tenderloin_defconfig Aug 28 15:06:07 basically, do that Aug 28 15:06:11 and it will give you a config Aug 28 15:06:13 ok, thanks Aug 28 15:06:16 I once had a dog.... that was called.... bingo! Aug 28 15:06:20 aiite, watch this Aug 28 15:06:20 Omg bitches are all like "lemme blow you while you make custom roms" Aug 28 15:06:24 Its good shit Aug 28 15:06:25 I am not 100% convinced by this kernel btw Flatspin Aug 28 15:06:30 SamCripp: HighFive! Aug 28 15:06:36 indeed Aug 28 15:06:47 Pulser, that's ok. Just wanting to play with it. Aug 28 15:06:48 SamCripp: I had seen you say that before, and I wasn't implying you were in it for the money. Anyway, I'll go back to lurking now... Aug 28 15:06:49 thanks Aug 28 15:06:57 ok cool Flatspin Aug 28 15:07:04 have fun :) Aug 28 15:07:07 yes the chicks totally are into the dev thing Aug 28 15:07:35 it's doing something! Aug 28 15:07:36 :D Aug 28 15:07:38 hard to keep them away once they find out :) Aug 28 15:07:41 Any reason we can't just use the existing Kernel? it's 2.6.35? Aug 28 15:07:50 SwiftJudgement_, i like to remind people, that not all dewvs are interested in money. im actively working on cm7 atrix, our donations prob exceed whateer this people got in donations. Aug 28 15:07:50 Zaphod-Beeble, android needs custom patches Aug 28 15:07:53 for thinkgs like wakelocks Aug 28 15:07:58 what i am srsly interested on Aug 28 15:08:01 is 2 tps Aug 28 15:08:05 ill buy them at cost Aug 28 15:08:09 shit Aug 28 15:08:20 i need one for science Aug 28 15:08:25 purely to break that bitch Aug 28 15:08:30 ill do it on cam idc Aug 28 15:08:36 so get at me Aug 28 15:08:37 hehehe Aug 28 15:08:42 watch this Aug 28 15:09:23 what people keep saying Aug 28 15:09:25 * Brandon15811 thinks the atrix-dev-team should turn into the touchpad-dev-team Aug 28 15:09:25 ;) Aug 28 15:09:49 Nooo! Not till you are done with CM7-Atrix first. So says I. Aug 28 15:09:59 * Wookiebush cracks whip. Aug 28 15:09:59 lol Aug 28 15:10:05 Quick port Minecraft to this thing! Aug 28 15:10:29 quick, dance Aug 28 15:10:39 And we are positive that the GB build for Snapdragon reference board is not compatible with this board? Aug 28 15:10:43 port diablo II to this thing zomg Aug 28 15:10:52 Zaphod-Beeble, it wont work Aug 28 15:11:05 isnt diablo one running in dosbox Aug 28 15:11:14 Can't wait till Tegra 3- they are ACTUALLY releasing a FULL version of Lost Planet 2! Aug 28 15:11:14 yeah i think so Aug 28 15:11:16 why not compile dosbox for the chroot env Aug 28 15:11:21 and then diablo it up Aug 28 15:11:52 Tabs then will be quad core / 2gb RAM Aug 28 15:11:57 2-4GB Aug 28 15:12:23 Hmm...I thinnk Diablo type game would be great to play on a tablet. Aug 28 15:12:44 Diablo doesn't run under DOSBox... Aug 28 15:12:46 i can't stand "tapping" the glass playing a game Aug 28 15:12:49 drives me bonkers Aug 28 15:12:51 it dosnt Aug 28 15:12:54 then nevermind Aug 28 15:13:09 it was a nice though Aug 28 15:13:14 hehe Aug 28 15:13:20 get a qemu port, run windows 95 and then run diablo Aug 28 15:13:23 SamCripp, what's your current "plan"? Aug 28 15:13:45 hello everyone Aug 28 15:13:50 im waiting on farchord to get back at me Aug 28 15:13:52 ok Aug 28 15:13:59 on phone hold on Aug 28 15:14:01 1. Put Honeycomb on this tabs, which the 1337 4w350m3 developers here are working no Aug 28 15:14:03 I meant partition and LVM wise Aug 28 15:14:04 etc Aug 28 15:14:05 :) Aug 28 15:14:07 technically Aug 28 15:14:16 2. Put minecraft on android Aug 28 15:14:19 lol Aug 28 15:14:22 3. ??? Aug 28 15:14:24 port from xperia Aug 28 15:14:25 4. Profit Aug 28 15:14:36 I hate how its Xperia exclusive Aug 28 15:14:37 apparantly it works fine if you use a zeemote with mapped keys Aug 28 15:14:39 HATE it Aug 28 15:14:48 I'm weird, I don't enjoy minecraft at all. Aug 28 15:15:07 Wookiebush: You're weird as shit, officially Aug 28 15:15:15 That means you never liked legos Aug 28 15:15:20 And that makes you wierd Aug 28 15:15:22 will webos doctor restore a tp to factory state? Aug 28 15:15:24 not true Aug 28 15:15:34 kezz2k2, usually, depends what you do to it Aug 28 15:15:40 Wookiebush: Its legoes for grown-ups!!!!!!!! Aug 28 15:15:56 still don't enjoy it Aug 28 15:15:57 http://kotaku.com/5835043/notch-gives-us-a-tour-of-the-ever+expanding-radical-minecraft-18-update Aug 28 15:16:04 I don't enjoy it either Aug 28 15:16:06 welcome to the club. Aug 28 15:16:12 and I paid $14.99 for it or w/e alpha price was lol Aug 28 15:16:38 that'll teach me to buy something before I know if I like it or not Aug 28 15:16:43 Minecraft update will make it fun again. Aug 28 15:16:56 ok let me rephrase what would i have to do for it not to be able to restore Aug 28 15:17:05 aiite aiite back Aug 28 15:17:07 (barring setting it on fire :P) Aug 28 15:17:09 kezz2k2, Aug 28 15:17:13 if you break bootloader Aug 28 15:17:16 overflash it Aug 28 15:17:16 SamCripp, u seeing the video atm? Aug 28 15:17:21 or badly adjust the partitions Aug 28 15:17:23 kezz2k2, write over what you shouldn't write over Aug 28 15:17:39 no Aug 28 15:17:41 ah so it can't recover the original parition table Aug 28 15:17:47 it was really fuzzy Aug 28 15:17:50 link me pls Aug 28 15:18:02 http://j-tv.me/mTjCkL Aug 28 15:18:11 If you drop your TP in a kettle of hot grease, i'm pretty sure webos doctor will not help you. Aug 28 15:18:35 thanks for that Wookiebush learn something new everyday ... noted Aug 28 15:18:39 Wookiebush, you would be correct Aug 28 15:18:41 Wookiebush: I swear it is Aug 28 15:18:55 WebOS doctor will solve anything Aug 28 15:19:02 farchord, that made it worst Aug 28 15:19:03 Let me prove it Aug 28 15:19:03 lol Aug 28 15:19:28 before you do it, make a video Aug 28 15:19:30 * tusing_ photoshops a picture of TP in hot grease and webOS doctor logo Aug 28 15:19:48 anyway, here goes nothing Aug 28 15:19:52 its too fuzzy Aug 28 15:20:05 Can't see anything D: Aug 28 15:20:07 you need to up the quality farchord Aug 28 15:20:15 Ok, got the kernel compiled.. Aug 28 15:20:18 its on max lol Aug 28 15:20:23 Jesus farchord lol one bad service to the next Aug 28 15:20:27 lol Aug 28 15:20:28 Just up your font size Aug 28 15:20:34 I did Aug 28 15:20:37 gah hold on Aug 28 15:20:39 its not his font size Aug 28 15:20:45 its his streaming quality Aug 28 15:20:50 this Aug 28 15:20:50 is Aug 28 15:20:51 so Aug 28 15:20:55 frustrating Aug 28 15:20:55 that's what she said... Aug 28 15:21:11 * Flatspin is sorry. too early for that but... Aug 28 15:21:12 man Aug 28 15:21:15 another 4hr sleep night Aug 28 15:21:19 RHCP my homie what is up Aug 28 15:21:28 tired as fuck Aug 28 15:21:35 need to drive wife to work soonish Aug 28 15:21:38 Dude I'm still drunk lol Aug 28 15:21:39 no sleep Aug 28 15:21:40 in days Aug 28 15:21:45 nice :) Aug 28 15:21:50 YOU CAN SLEEP WHEN WE HAVE ANDROID Aug 28 15:21:53 lol Aug 28 15:21:57 farchord: That's better Aug 28 15:21:58 There Aug 28 15:22:15 This may have already been answered elsewhere but, once android is ported and installed on the tp, will we be able to flash back to webOS if need be (for HP to honor warranty) Aug 28 15:22:53 yes Brobbins87 Aug 28 15:23:00 cool Aug 28 15:23:01 Brobbins97 : I believe you can always use webOS doctor Aug 28 15:23:07 I can't say every possible android way will let you Aug 28 15:23:35 but the ones I would consider flashable should allow you, if not I would not flash it Aug 28 15:24:12 what are you talking about flashing android? Aug 28 15:24:18 hi Aug 28 15:24:19 we are not going to release anything thats dangerous Aug 28 15:24:23 and with FULL warnings Aug 28 15:24:31 anyone try to falsh images to mmc yet? Aug 28 15:24:31 rhcp, I am not talking about you or your group :| Aug 28 15:24:39 we are already warned not to touch 1-13 :) Aug 28 15:24:41 ah ok Aug 28 15:24:42 im generalizing Aug 28 15:25:00 I'm crossing my fingers Aug 28 15:25:00 rz950: if you dont want a brick. listen to what we say. we have webos guys around Aug 28 15:25:07 yes I know rhcp Aug 28 15:25:08 and support Aug 28 15:25:12 thanks Aug 28 15:25:22 indeed Aug 28 15:25:22 id be bricked prob 3x by now :) Aug 28 15:25:27 14 is the only friendly one Aug 28 15:25:27 if it was because of the support Aug 28 15:25:35 rchp: what the webos guys say if I flash all the images to mmc0? Aug 28 15:25:40 SamCripp: we got info where shit lives Aug 28 15:25:44 rainlake: uhhhhh Aug 28 15:25:46 BRICK Aug 28 15:25:50 You know where I live? Aug 28 15:25:51 and highgly stupid Aug 28 15:25:58 sure? why? Aug 28 15:26:06 not goig into it. Aug 28 15:26:12 bootie lives in those part areas Aug 28 15:26:16 your boot lives Aug 28 15:26:17 etc Aug 28 15:26:24 you will brick Aug 28 15:26:26 SamCripp, THERE we go! Aug 28 15:26:26 Im in ramdisk Aug 28 15:26:39 farchord, hmmm? Aug 28 15:26:43 Shitty phone ass Aug 28 15:26:45 wulf you live Winfield, US Aug 28 15:26:52 amirite Aug 28 15:26:55 Yep Aug 28 15:26:57 flash all 14 partitons.android use bootie too? Aug 28 15:27:07 Winfield, WV to be exact Aug 28 15:27:24 rainlake, you be a fool to do that Aug 28 15:28:02 samcripp , is bootie in partion1? Aug 28 15:28:03 How many Android Touchpads are there in the wild? Aug 28 15:28:22 rainlake, sorry i dont know, no device and most devs have been secretive Aug 28 15:28:41 so last time I was on yesterday rhcp had cwm running . any progress? Aug 28 15:28:49 hi everybody, any developper is here ? Aug 28 15:28:55 actually ... if you take apart the topaz.xml file from the webosdoctor .. you can see exacly what/where all the partitions are. Aug 28 15:28:55 see why i want the installer Aug 28 15:28:58 this is a dev channel Aug 28 15:29:03 I was thinking if put all 13 partitions from partition 2 will make my touchpad everyting like the touchpad with android. Aug 28 15:29:07 and people com here only tio fucking ask about progress Aug 28 15:29:10 SamCripp: kernel src is in topic Aug 28 15:29:11 :) Aug 28 15:29:14 no more secretive Aug 28 15:29:21 thanks rhcp Aug 28 15:29:25 thats the way deving is done Aug 28 15:29:29 collaboration Aug 28 15:29:30 why version of android you are trying to port to the touchpad ? 2.2 ? 2.3 ? 3.2 ? Aug 28 15:29:34 well thanks goes to jonpry Aug 28 15:29:39 need to speak to him a bit Aug 28 15:29:59 biotoxic937: yes Aug 28 15:30:08 Samcripp, most of the partitions just hoise tga files for boot images, etc. Aug 28 15:30:12 guys Aug 28 15:30:15 can i get op Aug 28 15:30:24 i want to mute people that ask for etas Aug 28 15:30:31 or anything non dev Aug 28 15:30:33 rhcp, I think that you will need to work on that kernel more Aug 28 15:30:40 well Aug 28 15:30:43 basically Aug 28 15:30:44 i got another approach Aug 28 15:30:46 rhcp and samcripp. I was thinking if put all 13 partitions from partition 2 will make my touchpad everyting like the touchpad with android. isnot true? Aug 28 15:30:48 flem and I played with it Aug 28 15:30:49 neeed to talk to jonpry Aug 28 15:30:53 it wouldn't boot Aug 28 15:31:01 despite trying 3 different lots of userspace stuff Aug 28 15:31:02 no rainlake Aug 28 15:31:03 rainlake: you will brick! Aug 28 15:31:05 sh would work Aug 28 15:31:10 ONLY if from busybox Aug 28 15:31:11 many people dont realize to run android Aug 28 15:31:12 get it. Aug 28 15:31:16 all you need is kernel and system Aug 28 15:31:24 the rest can be faked or mountloop to anything Aug 28 15:31:26 ah trs is gone again Aug 28 15:31:28 yes Aug 28 15:31:29 i was going to talk to him Aug 28 15:31:32 SamCripp, correct Aug 28 15:31:33 the issue was Aug 28 15:31:34 rchp. can you tell me why? Aug 28 15:31:38 everything was segfaulting Aug 28 15:31:44 rainlake: its been talked about. really go to chanlogs Aug 28 15:31:47 and there were kernel ram issues Aug 28 15:31:48 indeed Aug 28 15:31:51 ok. Aug 28 15:31:52 or have someone mwith more sleep tell you Aug 28 15:31:56 its just plain stupid Aug 28 15:31:58 and reckless Aug 28 15:32:04 if you want to keep your device. dont do it Aug 28 15:32:08 rhcp, I had sleep, and I don't want to try answer either Aug 28 15:32:13 :P Aug 28 15:32:27 ill answer Aug 28 15:32:55 rainlake, if you push all the partitions to your tp, it will break like a bitch Aug 28 15:33:22 can you re-doctor it after it breaks? Aug 28 15:33:24 :) Aug 28 15:33:30 no Aug 28 15:33:33 thanks guys. I pushed to /tmp. not dd yet. Aug 28 15:33:40 No doctor :0 Aug 28 15:33:41 Sam & rhcp - have you looked at the topaz.xml file to see how/what the partitions are? Aug 28 15:33:58 you saved my pad Aug 28 15:34:03 webos doctor wont fix tp if you have tempere with boot Aug 28 15:34:22 I have not looked at topaz at all Aug 28 15:34:25 tmzt_: has Aug 28 15:34:34 im busy trying to get a few answers ) Aug 28 15:34:46 jonpry: when your free. plz to pm Aug 28 15:34:49 I have looked at topaz.xml Aug 28 15:34:51 briefly Aug 28 15:34:54 How is it progressing so far Aug 28 15:34:59 what are you doing next? Aug 28 15:35:09 finding some answers Aug 28 15:35:15 hi guys, where is the best place for me to keep watch for a working release? Aug 28 15:35:27 SamCripp: feel free Aug 28 15:35:30 ;) Aug 28 15:35:33 http://touchdroid.isitreadyyet.info/ Aug 28 15:35:49 okay, so.... Aug 28 15:35:53 cheers good sir Aug 28 15:35:53 sorry i was a bit distracted giving the middle finger to someone rubbing their tp on ym face >< Aug 28 15:35:53 http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokedex/ Aug 28 15:35:59 i can post worthless links as well. Aug 28 15:36:20 Ice_Black, any questions about progress will be met with muting Aug 28 15:36:38 the progress happens on dev talk Aug 28 15:36:46 What is the progress of Irene, anyway? Aug 28 15:36:49 so everyone please enjoy the dev talks Aug 28 15:36:54 lol jk Aug 28 15:37:16 farchord: Irene is booted and running Aug 28 15:37:17 anybody play iron fist boxing Aug 28 15:37:22 it's actually a good game for the tp Aug 28 15:37:23 lol Aug 28 15:37:29 I have... Aug 28 15:37:32 does it cost money? Aug 28 15:37:33 if so, no. Aug 28 15:37:35 yeaaa Aug 28 15:37:43 Good luck guys ... I'm out. Aug 28 15:37:55 Just gotta say, compared with a lot of the talk in this room over the past 24 hours, it is fucking stupid to mute someone just because they ask how the progress is going. Aug 28 15:37:55 Hey, I was just thinking.. Instead of me dinking around and playing catchup, would one of the devs want to ssh into my box? Aug 28 15:38:04 http://isitreadyyet.info/ this site is dumb purely because it uses an image which has shitty AA Aug 28 15:38:09 http://team-touchdroid.com/wiki/index.php?title=Current_Progress Aug 28 15:38:10 ^_________^ Aug 28 15:38:12 I have a 32g TP connected and all the tools setup Aug 28 15:38:25 hi there ;) Aug 28 15:38:26 thanks ximon Aug 28 15:38:27 anything new? Aug 28 15:38:34 See, Ximon- that is a much better response to questions like that. Aug 28 15:38:39 Is getting the market working a simple matter of flashing Gapps? Aug 28 15:38:58 Froz3n, no Aug 28 15:39:32 you would aslo need the device "key" Aug 28 15:39:36 Flatspin can I root your box Aug 28 15:39:38 or whatever you want to call it Aug 28 15:39:40 lawl Aug 28 15:39:42 jk Aug 28 15:39:44 it goes in the build.prop Aug 28 15:39:49 Yeah but you can spoof that to be the Nexus S or something wide-ranged Aug 28 15:39:54 tells the market and google servers what apps can run Aug 28 15:39:55 SamCripp, considering I dont have much I can do atm I'll stop now, but FYI this was my point of reference on what I was doing: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Last_Resort_Emergency_BootLoader_Recovery Aug 28 15:40:05 what did ya do to get dab working in the recovery? Aug 28 15:40:13 farchord, agreed, the room is noise Aug 28 15:40:16 noisy Aug 28 15:40:17 but Aug 28 15:40:19 Hijinks, I don't you could Aug 28 15:40:24 blah, doubt Aug 28 15:40:26 what kernal Aug 28 15:40:31 farchord, the next step is getting the boot imag and spliting it Aug 28 15:40:34 and distro Aug 28 15:40:39 yeah Aug 28 15:40:42 and then we can edit the ramdisk Aug 28 15:41:07 jonpry…are you there? Aug 28 15:41:09 flatspin : uname -a Aug 28 15:41:26 anyone wanting games for the touchpad should join webosbuzz , google it there's a good selection of HD Games there, all free :-) Aug 28 15:41:34 What are you guys doing atm…we already booted cwm recovery, and stock recovery last night ;) Aug 28 15:41:37 yo Aug 28 15:41:42 lol.. Hijinks, I know how to find my kernel. The offer was for some of the people here that I've seen making progress. Aug 28 15:41:46 what did you do to get dab going? Aug 28 15:41:51 -dab +adb Aug 28 15:41:59 i patched the kernel lol Aug 28 15:42:13 whoami "root" me: k thanks Aug 28 15:42:13 I played Final Fantasy XI Aug 28 15:42:18 lol jk Aug 28 15:42:24 so there's more to it than just changing to android gadget i presume Aug 28 15:42:56 you have to switch out the usb core Aug 28 15:43:04 with one from android.git.kernel.org Aug 28 15:43:16 Anyone know what the difference is between msm8660_csfb and msm8660_surf ? Aug 28 15:43:19 sounds like a plan Aug 28 15:43:26 but it was more complicated than i predicted because the msm_72k drivers are way newer than .35 Aug 28 15:43:43 jonpry: tryed plaing a bit with your kernel Aug 28 15:43:44 TecKnight…don't know but the _surf is the one wit hound baseband Aug 28 15:43:46 ie. ours Aug 28 15:43:52 first i got a6 errors, solved by copied one .h Aug 28 15:43:56 is your stuff on github? Aug 28 15:44:05 gitorious Aug 28 15:44:06 and then, every dynamic bin : segfault (ENOMEM) Aug 28 15:44:16 link? Aug 28 15:44:16 hound baseband ? Aug 28 15:44:22 Flemmard, thats not a problem with my kernel Aug 28 15:44:26 hm .. Aug 28 15:44:28 damn autocorrect Aug 28 15:44:29 strange tho Aug 28 15:44:39 cool, thats the one I was using Aug 28 15:44:40 without Aug 28 15:44:41 its a puzzle Aug 28 15:44:46 yea Aug 28 15:45:02 my kernel runs webos fine Aug 28 15:45:13 i'm not talking of webos Aug 28 15:45:14 :) Aug 28 15:45:18 i know Aug 28 15:45:22 okay Aug 28 15:45:27 just saying webos is all dyn libs Aug 28 15:45:31 yea Aug 28 15:46:06 so ok .. Aug 28 15:46:09 so i dont understand Aug 28 15:46:58 we tried with 3 different sets of userland files Aug 28 15:47:05 froyo leak Aug 28 15:47:14 so did you just upgrade the stuff in devices/usb or stuff in arch/arm/mach-msm? Aug 28 15:47:21 AOSP msm8660 dragon board Aug 28 15:47:27 mauimauer, both Aug 28 15:47:35 and a generic CM7 build Aug 28 15:47:51 thats about right Aug 28 15:47:59 afaik we only tested their recovery images ;) Aug 28 15:48:13 all static runs fine Aug 28 15:48:13 or did anyone try to boot a whole system.img yet? Aug 28 15:48:17 dynamic just hangs Aug 28 15:48:24 its not really hanging Aug 28 15:48:31 its stupid mini_core Aug 28 15:48:52 whenever something segfaults it hangs until the timeout for you to connect some kind of device we don't have Aug 28 15:48:53 are devs working with the 2.2 dump or trying for a 2.3? Aug 28 15:48:56 it's segfaults Aug 28 15:49:03 enomem shit Aug 28 15:49:08 yep Aug 28 15:49:11 so what happened last night dev wise Aug 28 15:49:27 and i dont really see why Aug 28 15:49:39 Ankleshank: working on own. but atm is to get recovery working Aug 28 15:50:02 i may be able to dig something up on that problem in exchange for how craptain got touchscreen working Aug 28 15:50:08 jonpry but you did merge the android.git kernel with the palm sources, right? not just a simple replace Aug 28 15:50:48 Do you think if Linus Torvalds was here, he would get all done in 1 day? Aug 28 15:50:51 it ended up being like cherrypicking .c and makefiles and merging some .h Aug 28 15:51:10 good ;) Aug 28 15:51:47 Ice_Black, if linus torvald was here we would still know the same thing we know now Aug 28 15:52:05 at least palm has proper kernel patches... Aug 28 15:52:26 if I remember how samsung *cough* maintained their kernel tree before they got help from google with the nexuss Aug 28 15:52:29 nightmares... Aug 28 15:52:35 we have just another one asking questions and keeping the devs away from work Aug 28 15:52:56 this room should be password Aug 28 15:53:37 or +m Aug 28 15:53:54 we just need guys for first level support :) i would do this if im around and have time to read backlog to know whats going Aug 28 15:54:42 how nfar we are away to get a android running on the tp in percentage only 30%? ore more Aug 28 15:54:46 i think some ppl might have some good ideas which they can throw in when some group gets stuck on a problem Aug 28 15:54:52 .. Aug 28 15:54:55 are we still in for dual boot? Aug 28 15:54:59 don't think this is feasible Aug 28 15:55:07 lvm will prove to be a pain in the ass Aug 28 15:55:12 its not ready yet if it where you would know Aug 28 15:55:19 mauimauer, dual boot is simple Aug 28 15:55:49 technikfreak: its a step by step. but you just dont know how many problems still to come. so no ETA. Aug 28 15:56:05 well it should be possible…chain loading another bl after bootie for os select and then boot android in some freed up space after the last webos partition Aug 28 15:56:17 ok yeah Aug 28 15:56:24 mauimauer, bingo Aug 28 15:56:41 i don't care as long as I don't have to deal with lvm ;) Aug 28 15:57:11 i'd be cool if we could install our stuff with trenchcoat ;) Aug 28 15:57:12 mauimauer, and is really simple to chainboot Aug 28 15:57:27 i know…bootie has a command for that ;) Aug 28 15:57:28 bootie loves it Aug 28 15:57:41 rhcp: https://twitter.com/#!/oldtopman Aug 28 15:57:49 rhcp: Here's your interview! Aug 28 15:58:22 is anyone flashing stuff already? Aug 28 15:58:34 since all we did yesterday was membooting recoveries ;) Aug 28 15:58:43 guys Aug 28 15:58:43 and this is what i am going to do today ;) Aug 28 15:58:45 new info Aug 28 15:58:51 KERNEL WORKS IN WEBOS FLAWLESS Aug 28 15:58:54 I prefer Old G man. Aug 28 15:58:56 no touchscreen issues Aug 28 15:58:59 dock works Aug 28 15:59:01 etc! Aug 28 15:59:07 huh? Aug 28 15:59:13 rhcp, can I klaump you? Aug 28 15:59:19 not i Aug 28 15:59:23 but jonpry Aug 28 15:59:26 he pushed a fix Aug 28 15:59:27 well…why shouldn't the kernel work Aug 28 15:59:37 mauimauer: it didnt last night :) Aug 28 15:59:38 Yeah but he doesnt like being Klaumped. Aug 28 15:59:41 there were just some issues with adb Aug 28 15:59:49 mauimauer: adb is done and done Aug 28 15:59:50 rhcp, I cant find out why dd back does not work Aug 28 15:59:51 rhcp did you head about my results with the qcom stock recovery Aug 28 16:00:07 but i am glad jonpry fixed adb ;) Aug 28 16:00:09 did you brick? Aug 28 16:00:13 i am testing it out now? Aug 28 16:00:23 no…i got a nice recovery droid with exclamation mark Aug 28 16:00:28 but it was not distorted at all Aug 28 16:00:30 oldtopmanserver: cool beans Aug 28 16:00:47 mauimauer: id not fuck with those dumps Aug 28 16:00:50 if i were wise Aug 28 16:00:51 :) Aug 28 16:00:56 huhu? Aug 28 16:00:57 just a headsup Aug 28 16:00:59 what dumps? Aug 28 16:01:06 i built the recovery from qcoms repo myself Aug 28 16:01:15 with the msms8660_surf as base board Aug 28 16:01:16 I did not try. Aug 28 16:01:16 yea, i wouldnt fuck with it Aug 28 16:01:25 you will end up in brick mode Aug 28 16:01:35 if you are touching nand Aug 28 16:01:40 I just want to know the reason Aug 28 16:01:46 i don't touch the nand ;) Aug 28 16:01:50 rainlake: find chanlogs Aug 28 16:01:54 i was just membooting recovery images Aug 28 16:01:55 rhcp, did you ever get the second tp Aug 28 16:01:58 yes Aug 28 16:02:00 just like your cwm ;) Aug 28 16:02:01 i got two now Aug 28 16:02:02 The nand is like, your tablet's special part, the no-no part Aug 28 16:02:05 rhcp,where can I find them? Aug 28 16:02:08 let me buy one off you Aug 28 16:02:24 SamCripp: cant tbh. I need 2. sa i said if my 10 come though Aug 28 16:02:26 ill see what i can do Aug 28 16:02:29 for select few Aug 28 16:02:33 hope you understand Aug 28 16:02:46 lol, i need 2 as well, so i understand Aug 28 16:02:53 thanks Aug 28 16:02:59 SamCripp, man I'm sorry for you, where do you live anyway? Aug 28 16:03:05 PR Aug 28 16:03:06 puerto rico Aug 28 16:03:11 oh right Aug 28 16:03:13 i order mine through pffice depot Aug 28 16:03:18 but irene fuck me over Aug 28 16:03:19 ill hook him up. if god helps me :) Aug 28 16:03:20 with my order Aug 28 16:03:22 and they coudnt ship to me Aug 28 16:03:26 and sold it to someone else Aug 28 16:03:48 so let's see if i can get adb to work too ;) Aug 28 16:03:59 i'd like to keep up with developments 'around here ;) Aug 28 16:04:09 Scumbag SamCripp: "People are talking about non-dev stuff and filling the chat when we should only talk about code. Lets ban them all and anyone who asks questions… Oh yeah, can I buy your touchpad?" Aug 28 16:04:12 ^________^ Aug 28 16:04:35 indeed Aug 28 16:04:49 ^_^; <3 Aug 28 16:05:06 dont call devs scumbags Aug 28 16:05:13 or those scumbags will bann you Aug 28 16:05:18 let me show you Aug 28 16:05:49 sheesh Aug 28 16:05:53 shamash : that would be stupid. Aug 28 16:05:53 wow Aug 28 16:05:57 Wait what Aug 28 16:05:59 nvm got kicked Aug 28 16:06:03 SamCripp did you miss the reference? Aug 28 16:06:10 i did Aug 28 16:06:14 ive been quiet Aug 28 16:06:18 someone ask me something Aug 28 16:06:20 i replied Aug 28 16:06:22 http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/scumbag-steve Aug 28 16:06:58 no he is ban Aug 28 16:07:03 lol k Aug 28 16:07:05 dont refer to any dev unpolitely Aug 28 16:07:08 me or anyone Aug 28 16:07:14 shit dont even do that to trsh Aug 28 16:07:17 even as a joke Aug 28 16:07:20 lets be polite Aug 28 16:07:25 lol Aug 28 16:07:32 Pulser: so Aug 28 16:07:35 with the new push Aug 28 16:07:41 right Aug 28 16:07:45 last nights issues are moot Aug 28 16:07:53 ok Aug 28 16:07:59 i tested quake even Aug 28 16:08:00 all good Aug 28 16:08:00 you mean touchscreen etc? Aug 28 16:08:02 awesome Aug 28 16:08:03 right Aug 28 16:08:03 yes Aug 28 16:08:10 let's re-pull Aug 28 16:08:15 im gonig to see if what he pushed fixes adb Aug 28 16:08:17 on webos Aug 28 16:08:20 since its one or other Aug 28 16:08:23 * Pulser isn't sure why I bother as I'm not running it :P Aug 28 16:08:29 btw Aug 28 16:08:32 meh, call it a "backup" in case gitorious dies Aug 28 16:08:34 dock charger works Aug 28 16:08:39 hehe Aug 28 16:08:59 @RHCP have you talked to craptain lately? a certain other dev said that you guys would run in to memory issues with his implementation Aug 28 16:09:19 BatNode, theres no memory issues Aug 28 16:09:23 OK rhcp I've updated my copy Aug 28 16:09:31 I will be here-and-there for now guys Aug 28 16:09:31 1gig of ram Aug 28 16:09:37 will be around more properly in a few mins Aug 28 16:09:41 BatNode: no talk at all really. except fo ra patch he made Aug 28 16:09:43 you would requiere a leak or a buffer write so huge Aug 28 16:09:49 root@root:/mnt/storage/android/temp/usbrec# adb devices Aug 28 16:09:49 * daemon not running. starting it now on port 5037 * Aug 28 16:09:49 * daemon started successfully * Aug 28 16:09:49 List of devices attached Aug 28 16:09:49 root@root:/mnt/storage/android/temp/usbrec# novaterm Aug 28 16:09:51 unable to find device Aug 28 16:09:54 root@root:/mnt/storage/android/temp/usbrec# Aug 28 16:09:56 this is not good though Aug 28 16:10:01 lol Aug 28 16:10:20 but it does show up in lsusb -v? Aug 28 16:10:21 that def is no good Aug 28 16:10:44 did you add the touchpad's usb id: SUBSYSTEM=="usb",SYSFS{idVendor}=="05c6", MODE="0666” Aug 28 16:10:56 my results of last night were…that the tp didn't show up at all when using android_gadget Aug 28 16:11:00 that is not the right value for the TP tho Aug 28 16:11:04 root@root:/mnt/storage/android/temp/usbrec# lsusb Aug 28 16:11:04 Bus 002 Device 116: ID 0bb4:0ffc High Tech Computer Corp. Aug 28 16:11:04 Bus 002 Device 003: ID 18e3:9102 Fitipower Integrated Technology Inc Multi Card Reader Aug 28 16:11:07 Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0020 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub Aug 28 16:11:10 Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Aug 28 16:11:12 Bus 001 Device 004: ID 046d:c05a Logitech, Inc. Optical Mouse M90 Aug 28 16:11:15 Bus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:c31d Logitech, Inc. Aug 28 16:11:17 Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0020 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub Aug 28 16:11:20 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Aug 28 16:11:39 don't see the tab…if that is all... Aug 28 16:11:40 multicard reader maybe ? Aug 28 16:11:48 do you have a htc device connected? Aug 28 16:11:55 no it comes up as a htc :) Aug 28 16:11:59 with this kernel Aug 28 16:12:10 yeah…because most htc devices use the msm platform ;) Aug 28 16:12:24 i just love when they hardcode vendorIds ;) Aug 28 16:12:37 anyway guys, ill be back in 20 mins or 30 mins Aug 28 16:12:46 if jonpry is around. tell him looks cool Aug 28 16:12:50 but i got no adb or novacom Aug 28 16:12:53 if there is a fix? Aug 28 16:12:57 thanks Aug 28 16:13:02 k Aug 28 16:13:07 rhcp, stupid question you have the adb daemon running on the device? Aug 28 16:13:17 i have no awy to tell tbh Aug 28 16:13:18 recovery should fire that up Aug 28 16:13:19 no access Aug 28 16:13:28 this is on webos Aug 28 16:13:28 btw Aug 28 16:13:38 how would that work... Aug 28 16:13:44 there is a statically linked adbd binary around Aug 28 16:13:44 have to run adbd Aug 28 16:13:45 you'd have to start adbd on the device Aug 28 16:14:18 the kernel provides the if for adbd communications…just like nova com. but it's useless without the fitting daemon Aug 28 16:15:15 so the "0bb4:0ffc High Tech Computer Corp" is actually the TP ? Aug 28 16:16:39 makes sense Aug 28 16:16:51 i've seen a lot of references to htc in mach-msm Aug 28 16:17:13 I am currently rebuilding my kernel from joprys sources Aug 28 16:17:27 let's see if i can get sth to work with my recovery image ;) Aug 28 16:17:36 yes the HTC is the TP, if you use a known vendor id you don't have to edit the adb whitelist Aug 28 16:17:47 morning all :) Aug 28 16:18:20 good point, so that way no need to change android.rules Aug 28 16:26:21 i got it Aug 28 16:26:32 Lightning:~ maui$ adb devices Aug 28 16:26:32 List of devices attached Aug 28 16:26:32 000000000000 recovery Aug 28 16:26:44 mauimauer, nice Aug 28 16:26:46 sweet Aug 28 16:26:53 Lightning:~ maui$ adb shell Aug 28 16:26:53 - exec '/system/bin/sh' failed: No such file or directory (2) - Aug 28 16:26:56 hrhr ;) Aug 28 16:26:58 s/n of all zeroes Aug 28 16:27:05 i knew i forgot something ;) Aug 28 16:31:32 ok mauimauer Aug 28 16:31:37 so you have adb working Aug 28 16:31:46 I have adb working :D Aug 28 16:31:53 he has adb working? Aug 28 16:32:00 he does ? Aug 28 16:32:04 very nice Aug 28 16:32:07 whats adb anyways ? Aug 28 16:32:13 i am rebuilding my recovery to include sh ;) Aug 28 16:32:14 the kernel that jonpry built can run adb Aug 28 16:32:24 exactly Aug 28 16:32:26 android debug bridge Aug 28 16:32:37 you just need to push adbd, and run it thru a script or thru ssh and then you can adb in Aug 28 16:32:44 yeah Aug 28 16:32:58 right, is anyone still working on getting "userspace" android to boot? Aug 28 16:33:06 or are we all jumped on the recovery bandwagon? Aug 28 16:33:26 haveyou guys lookedatthis https://docs.google.com/document/d/1K24KdGNLhaTICV1LXSRLdA8GyyrKAP31uj_LrKU8OG0/edit?hl=en_US&overridemobile=true Aug 28 16:33:31 dunno…i don't know how i would flash right now Aug 28 16:33:41 and since I only have one tp ;) Aug 28 16:33:43 mauimauer, talk to Flemmard if he is here Aug 28 16:33:47 he was doing it nice and safely :) Aug 28 16:33:47 will do Aug 28 16:33:48 basically Aug 28 16:33:52 we took an image Aug 28 16:33:56 and got the files Aug 28 16:34:03 from there, I am not 100% certain Aug 28 16:34:07 but he was able to boot to webos Aug 28 16:34:08 etc Aug 28 16:34:14 Pulser, Im still working on it, I guess Aug 28 16:34:19 boot to webos? Aug 28 16:34:21 nice :) Aug 28 16:34:25 why would we want that ;) Aug 28 16:34:27 mauimauer, yes he was switching between them Aug 28 16:34:31 as it was easier to push stuff Aug 28 16:34:34 via webos Aug 28 16:34:35 okay…that sounds intriguing Aug 28 16:34:35 :P Aug 28 16:34:39 erty, that is my doc Aug 28 16:34:40 yeah Aug 28 16:34:41 now we have adb ;) Aug 28 16:34:46 @erty who's document is that Aug 28 16:34:46 right Aug 28 16:34:46 so in fact Aug 28 16:34:55 Oh it's techs Aug 28 16:34:59 i got adb, i got everything, except dynamic linked bins Aug 28 16:35:08 they just segfault Aug 28 16:35:10 ENOMEM Aug 28 16:35:10 Flemmard…how did you deploy android? Aug 28 16:35:16 It's mine Aug 28 16:35:26 mauimauer: /system is on a lvm ext3 Aug 28 16:35:33 and ramdisk is in uimage Aug 28 16:35:39 i boot through boot mem:// Aug 28 16:35:52 so how did you make space for /system? Aug 28 16:35:59 mauimauer: i used meta doctor Aug 28 16:36:05 so how do i get adb working on my tp so i can flashthose files Aug 28 16:36:16 i get the uImage and ramdisk part ;) Aug 28 16:36:25 in the ramdisk part Aug 28 16:36:32 you have to do things to be able to mount lvm partitions Aug 28 16:36:37 how are things progresssing? Aug 28 16:36:38 mkdnod dev block Aug 28 16:36:43 TecKnight, how do you know that flashing it works without owning one? haha Aug 28 16:36:48 and run lvm.static vgcrap Aug 28 16:36:56 flemmard…is your stuff available anywhere? Aug 28 16:36:57 Smith7018, I have that built too, and Flemmard tried it Aug 28 16:36:57 I boot thru boot mem:// or thru my bootloader script Aug 28 16:37:05 Ah Aug 28 16:37:15 we still had the same issues with dynamically linked binaries Aug 28 16:37:16 not yet mauimauer, i first want to get this work Aug 28 16:37:18 :( Aug 28 16:37:21 Flemmard: you get touch screen working? Aug 28 16:37:26 sampson, we have no UI Aug 28 16:37:27 sampson: i dont have android booting Aug 28 16:37:35 yeah you'll have that heh Aug 28 16:37:38 none of the binaries that are dynamic will work Aug 28 16:37:43 my approach would be to bootmem my uImage/ramdisk sandwich which sets up the lvm and brings up /system Aug 28 16:37:45 i have the first beggining of android Aug 28 16:37:45 womp Aug 28 16:37:54 mauimauer: it's what i have Aug 28 16:38:03 kernel/ramdisk is on a uimage Aug 28 16:38:07 did you shrink the big webs partition? Aug 28 16:38:08 and system on lvm Aug 28 16:38:15 yes, the media one Aug 28 16:38:18 hi Aug 28 16:38:18 i used meta-doctor to do this Aug 28 16:38:18 I believe he shrunk media Aug 28 16:38:20 the large one Aug 28 16:38:24 What do you need to get it to work to get into GUI? Aug 28 16:38:29 ok that's what i'll do first Aug 28 16:38:31 Ice_Black, Aug 28 16:38:35 Ice_Black: working dynamic linked binaries :) Aug 28 16:38:40 1) get dynamically linked binaries to run Aug 28 16:38:47 2) get bootclasspaths loaded, and dexopt started Aug 28 16:38:57 3) have working graphics drivers and framebuffer Aug 28 16:38:59 the first one is the important one Aug 28 16:39:02 yes Aug 28 16:39:03 without 1 Aug 28 16:39:04 then it's bullshit Aug 28 16:39:05 nothing else matters Aug 28 16:39:06 great :) Aug 28 16:39:11 so... Aug 28 16:39:14 im so happy for you guys Aug 28 16:39:16 but this linker does puzzle me Aug 28 16:39:20 flemmards…where's your system.img from? Aug 28 16:39:20 IMO we need to get more people looking at that linking issue Aug 28 16:39:20 i gotta ask Aug 28 16:39:26 mauimauer, we tried various Aug 28 16:39:28 mauimauer: i tried with froyo leak Aug 28 16:39:32 what *tablet* applications ona ndroid are so needed that makes webos so useless Aug 28 16:39:36 we tried mine (AOSP msm8060) Aug 28 16:39:36 i tried with one Pulser provided me Aug 28 16:39:41 my system.img would be from the msm aosp Aug 28 16:39:43 we tried CM7 generic Aug 28 16:39:43 and one made myself, but works worse Aug 28 16:39:46 yes Aug 28 16:39:49 hmmm Aug 28 16:39:49 mine is SLIGHTLY better Aug 28 16:39:54 if anyone wants the files Aug 28 16:40:00 so we should get people to flemmard's current state Aug 28 16:40:01 Smith, I don't know. The instructions are from the DragonBoard docs Aug 28 16:40:03 http://villainrom.co.uk/Touchpad/rom/ Aug 28 16:40:09 that's the Dragonboard build Aug 28 16:40:16 mauimauer, yes I think so personally Aug 28 16:40:20 and then get more people looking at this Aug 28 16:40:23 it's fairly promising Aug 28 16:40:39 but i think td team already went further no ? Aug 28 16:40:56 well…who knows? Aug 28 16:41:06 as they speak about touch etc Aug 28 16:41:10 i'd rather have this knowledge gained by public work ;) Aug 28 16:41:22 but so here .. Aug 28 16:41:23 It's so nice to see progress being made Aug 28 16:41:47 well, in absence of anything else Aug 28 16:41:47 i'm fairly stuck Aug 28 16:41:50 go by what YOU have seen Aug 28 16:41:56 yes, I am puzzled too Aug 28 16:41:59 @Teck are you being sarcastic? Aug 28 16:42:06 might be because im on a lvm part? Aug 28 16:42:06 is this a full msm aosp build? Aug 28 16:42:07 No I am not Aug 28 16:42:09 i dont think so Aug 28 16:42:13 they also offer tiny_android ;) Aug 28 16:42:13 sup guys any news Aug 28 16:42:15 mauimauer, what I am using is what Tek described Aug 28 16:42:15 GOD I HATE YOU IRC Aug 28 16:42:27 mauimauer, it's an AOSP 2.3 build Aug 28 16:42:29 for the dragonboard Aug 28 16:42:34 for msm8060_surf Aug 28 16:42:40 msm8660* Aug 28 16:42:41 When you consider the short amount of time we have been looking at this Aug 28 16:42:44 i know…but they have two build options ;) Aug 28 16:42:49 mauimauer, what 2 options? Aug 28 16:42:53 I know exactly what I did Aug 28 16:42:54 so can check Aug 28 16:42:55 I think the progress is good Aug 28 16:43:03 full build (e.g. make) Aug 28 16:43:08 ok Aug 28 16:43:13 and TINY_ANDROID=true && make Aug 28 16:43:15 I did make -j6 Aug 28 16:43:17 NOT tiny android Aug 28 16:43:20 msm8660_surf Aug 28 16:43:21 should I try that? Aug 28 16:43:25 yes msm8660_surf Aug 28 16:43:34 * Pulser can run that off quickly if you want Aug 28 16:43:37 tiny android seems to be somewhat faster to be rebuilt Aug 28 16:43:41 since it leaves out most guy stuff Aug 28 16:43:45 -y+i Aug 28 16:43:49 yes it is alot faster Aug 28 16:44:00 mauimauer, will it be different in terms of output binaries? Aug 28 16:44:06 as ATM the build time is not an issue Aug 28 16:44:06 nope Aug 28 16:44:11 since we don't know WTF we are doing wrong Aug 28 16:44:12 :P Aug 28 16:44:16 i was just curious ;) Aug 28 16:44:18 hehe sure Aug 28 16:44:21 it was a full build Aug 28 16:44:22 for some reason my ld thinks my -lz libs are incompatible Aug 28 16:44:37 Flemmard, that's a point, did you play with ld? Aug 28 16:45:07 Flemmard, can you check that if you are near your pad? Aug 28 16:45:08 there's no 'ld' on and Aug 28 16:45:11 http://linux.die.net/man/8/ld-linux Aug 28 16:45:13 oh Aug 28 16:45:15 damn :( Aug 28 16:45:19 anyone got a link to metadoctor? Aug 28 16:45:20 it's a different linker Aug 28 16:45:33 http://forums.precentral.net/web-os-development/207472-webos-internals-meta-doctor.html Aug 28 16:45:35 ok in fact the strace i found is pure crap Aug 28 16:45:51 # strace -f -F -i ls Aug 28 16:45:51 [000632ec] execve("/system/bin/ls", ["ls"], [/* 11 vars */]) = 0 Aug 28 16:45:52 lol. Aug 28 16:45:58 what a useful debug output :) Aug 28 16:46:04 ROFL Aug 28 16:46:07 that's useful =D Aug 28 16:46:10 yeah Aug 28 16:46:12 i'll try another Aug 28 16:46:40 oh it's better Aug 28 16:46:41 ok Aug 28 16:47:05 ok Aug 28 16:47:09 anything useful? Aug 28 16:47:12 does gdb not exist on android Aug 28 16:47:31 http://www.omappedia.org/wiki/Android_Debugging Aug 28 16:47:35 omap related Aug 28 16:47:56 gdb would probably be more usefull than strace Aug 28 16:47:59 could the segfaults be coming from something as simple as using incompatible toolchains for the kernel vs userland Aug 28 16:48:21 D3tul3, perhaps, but staticly linked binaries are OK Aug 28 16:48:22 like busybox Aug 28 16:48:27 and I haven't a clue what was used to build it Aug 28 16:48:40 ok Aug 28 16:48:42 got the same result Aug 28 16:48:45 well the aosp comes with it's own toolchain Aug 28 16:48:55 while the kernel was probably built with codesourcery Aug 28 16:49:20 yes Aug 28 16:49:21 2009q1 Aug 28 16:49:26 static libs are harder to break ;) Aug 28 16:49:31 we could build kernel with the NDK Aug 28 16:49:32 cause they bring all they need along ;) Aug 28 16:49:34 I guess Aug 28 16:49:36 psh Aug 28 16:49:36 yes true :) Aug 28 16:49:39 use ldconfig YOU FINE Aug 28 16:49:58 hm Aug 28 16:50:01 might be worth a try to build the kernel with the toolchain that is brought along with the used aosp Aug 28 16:50:07 building kernel with ndk ? Aug 28 16:50:16 im sorry, i dont mean to trow the convo off, but everyone has to see this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn6CWuk3Q3s&feature=relmfu Aug 28 16:50:19 can you do that ? Aug 28 16:50:21 not the ndk…but the toolchain in the aosp Aug 28 16:50:58 com/prebuilt/linux-x86/toolchain Aug 28 16:52:05 lots of prebuilt toolchains... Aug 28 16:52:06 arm-eabi-4.2.1 arm-eabi-4.4.0 i686-linux-glibc2.7-4.4.3 sh-4.3.3 Aug 28 16:52:06 arm-eabi-4.3.1 arm-eabi-4.4.3 i686-unknown-linux-gnu-4.2.1 Aug 28 16:52:10 pick one ;) Aug 28 16:52:40 i am going to shrink my media partition now ;) Aug 28 16:52:41 hmmm Aug 28 16:52:41 im trying with the toolchain in ndk Aug 28 16:52:49 arm-eabi-4.4.0 Aug 28 16:52:55 I think that is the same as NDK uses Aug 28 16:53:03 in the latest release, yes Aug 28 16:53:06 So you've plunked down your $99/$149, and you're staring at that WebOS screen... Aug 28 16:53:07 Welcome to a grand effort to port Android to the HP Touchpad. Aug 28 16:53:12 CROSS_COMPILE=/home/maxou/android/ndk/toolchains/arm-linux-androideabi-4.4.3/prebuilt/linux-x86/bin/arm-linux-androideabi- Aug 28 16:53:14 I have to say that is the most retarded wiki intro I've seen Aug 28 16:53:24 acfrazier youre a negative nancy. Aug 28 16:53:32 we'll see Aug 28 16:53:38 SamCripp: lol @ that video. What's so intriguing about it? It just looks like a fish :P Aug 28 16:53:45 it's trial and error ;) Aug 28 16:53:55 can't be worse Aug 28 16:54:00 its a new species, did you see if move, that thing was crazy Aug 28 16:54:01 Flemmard…how much did you spare for android? Aug 28 16:54:09 lol yeah Aug 28 16:54:15 but I wanted it to glow or something, I dunno. Aug 28 16:54:18 :P Aug 28 16:54:22 mauimauer: the default of meta doctor ,2gb Aug 28 16:54:36 sounds reasonable Aug 28 16:54:42 yea Aug 28 16:54:46 as i dont really use my tab atm XD Aug 28 16:54:49 it's sufficient Aug 28 16:54:51 xD Aug 28 16:54:58 Logoboy, here Aug 28 16:54:59 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF7nY5chNZI&feature=related Aug 28 16:55:32 i dont think recompiling will help Aug 28 16:55:33 but .. Aug 28 16:55:43 give it a shot Aug 28 16:55:46 I'm off for food Aug 28 16:55:48 yes im doing it Aug 28 16:55:48 bbl Aug 28 16:56:00 Man Utd 8 - 2 Arsenal Aug 28 16:56:02 lol Aug 28 16:57:56 uhmm…I edited the meta-doctor Makefile…but it doesn't do anything? Aug 28 16:58:00 did I miss something? Aug 28 16:58:08 make all Aug 28 16:58:13 or make unpack Aug 28 16:58:14 damn ;) Aug 28 16:58:15 make patch Aug 28 16:58:18 make pack Aug 28 16:58:19 :) Aug 28 16:58:26 (or make unpack patch pack) Aug 28 16:59:10 ok compilation finished Aug 28 16:59:58 Flemmard, after you make the partition, you push /system from webos? Aug 28 17:00:01 that was fast ;) Aug 28 17:00:07 yes Aug 28 17:00:13 via novacom? Aug 28 17:00:16 well Aug 28 17:00:19 i do this way: Aug 28 17:00:24 mass storage > copy all in a folder Aug 28 17:00:32 and then mount /dev/store/ext3fs /media/ext3fs Aug 28 17:00:41 cp -R /media/internal/blabla /media/ext3fs Aug 28 17:00:42 seems like the fastest way ;) Aug 28 17:01:06 what about the other android …partitions are you creating tmpfs's? Aug 28 17:01:14 back Aug 28 17:01:45 gives the same Aug 28 17:01:49 hm Aug 28 17:01:55 i must have missed something somewhere Aug 28 17:02:01 mhhh Aug 28 17:02:34 any infos Aug 28 17:02:36 since im gone Aug 28 17:02:46 adb works Aug 28 17:02:53 whats the fix? Aug 28 17:03:04 as said…you need to have adbd running on the device Aug 28 17:03:25 hmmz Aug 28 17:03:29 so do we do this. Aug 28 17:03:32 did try that with my recovery image Aug 28 17:03:35 we mod the webos internal? Aug 28 17:03:48 to start adbd Aug 28 17:04:04 yeah..like replacing novacom Aug 28 17:04:14 hmmmz Aug 28 17:04:21 since that won't work anymore if you use the kernel with androud_gadget Aug 28 17:04:25 yea Aug 28 17:04:32 one or other approch Aug 28 17:04:33 it's novacom or android Aug 28 17:04:34 you got it work? Aug 28 17:04:51 i got it listed with adb devices Aug 28 17:04:56 can you connect? Aug 28 17:05:00 and drop shell Aug 28 17:05:01 but my recovery.img lacks /system/bin/sh ;) Aug 28 17:05:07 oh ic Aug 28 17:05:10 ln it to busybox :) Aug 28 17:05:12 it works fine :P Aug 28 17:05:18 what does your recovery.img consist of? Aug 28 17:05:29 i havent heard nor seen it Aug 28 17:05:30 :) Aug 28 17:05:32 been too busy Aug 28 17:05:35 rhcp, using the kernel from last night, adb works Aug 28 17:05:37 same Aug 28 17:05:45 Smith7018: how is adb working? Aug 28 17:05:46 since it's a stock recovery…it nothing more than the recovery bin and adbd Aug 28 17:05:52 just put adbd in /sbin, mkdir /system/bin/ and move sh into it Aug 28 17:06:04 thats what i'll do next Aug 28 17:06:23 yea i dont want to flash a second inintrs for recovery.img Aug 28 17:06:23 works pretty well! I was able to use shell, pull and push, and the serialno is 000000000 Aug 28 17:06:24 :P Aug 28 17:06:25 no need Aug 28 17:06:26 but i am also preparing my tp for /system on that last ext2 part Aug 28 17:06:39 i have a problem Aug 28 17:06:43 and i dont understand Aug 28 17:06:47 with dynamic bins/ Aug 28 17:07:05 Smith7018: can you zip what you got as for adb? and mediafire it? Aug 28 17:07:12 for the sake of lost sleep and work :) Aug 28 17:07:15 im fucking beat Aug 28 17:07:21 as in the binaries? Aug 28 17:07:23 yea Aug 28 17:07:29 and where i shall place em Aug 28 17:07:31 Ya, I wen to bed at 7 am and woke up at 12 Aug 28 17:07:35 :O Aug 28 17:07:37 i was up at 9 Aug 28 17:07:42 and went at 6 or 7 Aug 28 17:07:45 damn. Aug 28 17:07:54 been a norm for last weeks Aug 28 17:08:44 so it just fire up the patched webos_doctor? Aug 28 17:08:50 cool tool ;) Aug 28 17:09:05 well im not fucking with that shit Aug 28 17:09:08 till tmzt_ is aroudn Aug 28 17:09:12 or rwest Aug 28 17:09:13 rhcp, http://www.mediafire.com/?on5u1r4qa7gg0ty Aug 28 17:09:14 err Aug 28 17:09:16 rwhitby: Aug 28 17:09:30 Smith7018: sec. Im going ot do something real quick Aug 28 17:09:34 and ill scp this stuff to my device Aug 28 17:09:39 fersho Aug 28 17:10:05 meh Aug 28 17:10:37 hmmz Aug 28 17:10:44 i themed my irssi Aug 28 17:10:52 maybe i need to part/join :) Aug 28 17:11:04 no Aug 28 17:11:13 its supposed to show ops and shit on right side Aug 28 17:11:20 MAYBE YOU NEED TO EXIT Aug 28 17:11:22 THEN OPEN IT AGAIN Aug 28 17:11:24 oops Aug 28 17:11:28 nah Aug 28 17:11:33 its working Aug 28 17:11:36 shit is all diff Aug 28 17:11:36 lol Aug 28 17:11:45 this is actually kinda annoying Aug 28 17:11:46 the colors Aug 28 17:12:04 RHCP PM Aug 28 17:12:27 shit how do i reset the damn theme back to sock Aug 28 17:12:28 lol Aug 28 17:12:34 this is uber annoying Aug 28 17:13:17 Uggghhhhh Aug 28 17:13:45 I hate my friend, I thought he was sending me a dump of his TP with Android 3.0, not webOS 3.0 Aug 28 17:13:47 -_- Aug 28 17:13:54 lol Aug 28 17:13:59 LMFAO Aug 28 17:14:11 nice Aug 28 17:14:21 you tell him you have 3.02? Aug 28 17:14:25 oh fuck Aug 28 17:14:27 this is even worse Aug 28 17:14:38 how to reset the theme back to norm Aug 28 17:14:41 lol Aug 28 17:14:49 rm ~/.irssi Aug 28 17:14:50 :D Aug 28 17:15:04 yea i could do that Aug 28 17:15:05 :P Aug 28 17:15:09 if i want to restart Aug 28 17:15:16 ^^ Aug 28 17:15:21 >he changed default irssi theme Aug 28 17:15:23 Ya thats why I dont mess with themes :P Aug 28 17:15:29 Why the fuck would you do such thing? Aug 28 17:15:42 wanted ops+voice list Aug 28 17:15:43 on right Aug 28 17:15:44 You don't mess with perfection man. Aug 28 17:16:02 Comma would help there, I think. Aug 28 17:16:26 ah Aug 28 17:16:27 think i got it Aug 28 17:16:31 yay Aug 28 17:16:36 /set theme default Aug 28 17:16:38 Aug 28 17:17:21 lets hope i got ssh going on this baby Aug 28 17:17:24 so i can push those bins Aug 28 17:18:55 ssh root@192.168.2.119 Aug 28 17:18:57 ok Aug 28 17:19:03 Smith7018: what do i need to do? Aug 28 17:19:16 great…meta-doctor runs trough just fine ;) Aug 28 17:19:29 I just sftp'd in, dropped em, chmod'd em Aug 28 17:19:33 oh Aug 28 17:19:37 you got them in correct folders already Aug 28 17:19:38 for me Aug 28 17:19:38 :) Aug 28 17:19:40 thanks Aug 28 17:19:46 then you ssh in, run /sbin/adbd & Aug 28 17:19:47 pretty awesome…could be the right tool to create sth. for everyone to install android onee we're ready Aug 28 17:19:55 and then adb shell! :) Aug 28 17:20:00 et voila ;) Aug 28 17:20:58 Smith7018: i assume you need to start adbd each time eh Aug 28 17:21:03 wonder how we automate it Aug 28 17:21:10 hook it up with upstart Aug 28 17:21:11 rc script Aug 28 17:21:14 I imagine Aug 28 17:21:23 does WebOS have launchdaemon support? Aug 28 17:21:32 dunno but it DOES use upstart Aug 28 17:22:34 greetings, Aug 28 17:22:45 everyone surviving the hurricane ok? Aug 28 17:22:57 For anyone who wants to try jonprys kernel, I made a prebuilt image Aug 28 17:23:08 oh are we at a working kernel now? Aug 28 17:23:10 but Im booting it now to see how it works before linking to it :P Aug 28 17:23:19 does it support ADB? Aug 28 17:23:24 should Aug 28 17:23:26 nice Aug 28 17:23:33 xiaomao, sure... we're just about to feel the tropical storm here Aug 28 17:23:43 You funny guys. Aug 28 17:23:51 We don't have such problems in europe. Aug 28 17:23:51 hmmz Aug 28 17:23:54 jonpry updated it to "remove finger tracing code" and I'm hoping that boosts speed Aug 28 17:23:54 i need to erm Aug 28 17:24:02 i think its passsing by here, very disappointing Aug 28 17:24:06 mount the system rw i guess Aug 28 17:24:06 its like y2k all over again Aug 28 17:24:07 sftp put Aug 28 17:24:09 dont work Aug 28 17:24:17 did you set up ssh? Aug 28 17:24:40 klausa: yeah you do, the hurricanes travel on the gulf stream and can reach england. its just very rare Aug 28 17:25:29 yea Aug 28 17:25:31 England is not really mainland europe. Aug 28 17:25:32 i got ssh setup Aug 28 17:25:54 sftp> put adbd Aug 28 17:25:54 Uploading adbd to /sbin/adbd Aug 28 17:25:54 remote open("/sbin/adbd"): Failure Aug 28 17:25:56 xiaomao: u chinese? Aug 28 17:26:06 And that still few hundred/thousand kilomteres away from me, so... Aug 28 17:26:20 Nah, we don't have that heer :) Aug 28 17:26:25 rainlake: aisan, not chinese. I do speak it though Aug 28 17:26:41 so what xiaomao means? Aug 28 17:26:46 little cat Aug 28 17:26:56 little cat Aug 28 17:27:06 Like, bite-sized? Aug 28 17:27:10 just little Aug 28 17:27:19 that's chinese,lol Aug 28 17:27:19 http://nyan.cat/ :D Aug 28 17:27:37 haha Aug 28 17:28:09 lol Aug 28 17:28:22 rhcp, pull jonprys new changes! Aug 28 17:28:26 klausa: here you go http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical_Storm_Grace_(2009) Aug 28 17:28:29 it can run adb AND its fast! Aug 28 17:28:30 :D Aug 28 17:28:35 oh Aug 28 17:28:37 he fixed it up? Aug 28 17:28:42 mhm Aug 28 17:28:46 niiiiiiiice Aug 28 17:28:52 k Aug 28 17:28:54 let me pull Aug 28 17:29:06 im gonna try angry birds Aug 28 17:29:11 hoho Aug 28 17:29:14 sweet !! Aug 28 17:29:18 tmtz@root:~/dev/msm-tp$ git pull Aug 28 17:29:18 Already up-to-date. Aug 28 17:29:21 uhh? Aug 28 17:29:21 which is unnecessarily resource intensive lol Aug 28 17:29:26 little hair Aug 28 17:29:28 ? Aug 28 17:29:29 haha Aug 28 17:29:31 when did you last pull? Aug 28 17:29:31 Smith7018: ? Aug 28 17:29:31 smith7018: where is the git? Aug 28 17:29:37 awile ago Aug 28 17:29:39 rainlake: topic Aug 28 17:29:55 rainlake: im asian and speak mandarin im not just chinese :-p just like many people here are probably european and speak english Aug 28 17:30:11 well, i pulled this morning and he removed some debug messages, I believe Aug 28 17:30:16 xiaomao:got Aug 28 17:30:20 so what's your actual nationality? Aug 28 17:30:24 https://gitorious.org/msm-tp/msm-tp/commits/master Aug 28 17:30:26 Angry Birds plays well! :D Aug 28 17:30:36 sodowehaveandroid working yet Aug 28 17:30:49 No. Aug 28 17:30:56 no. we have Palm OS running Aug 28 17:30:58 * farchord is french canadian, but speaks better english than alot of americans... Aug 28 17:30:59 and it's smooooth Aug 28 17:31:00 So Smith, you have full Gingerbread running ? Aug 28 17:31:07 Lol no Aug 28 17:31:07 Smith7018: im confused Aug 28 17:31:13 are you trolling Aug 28 17:31:13 this is the mixed kernel Aug 28 17:31:21 lol Aug 28 17:31:26 rhcp, why would I do that? haha Aug 28 17:31:29 You french canadians and your total lack of respect for western canada! Aug 28 17:31:32 the kernel wont fix adb Aug 28 17:31:32 * BatNode shakes fist Aug 28 17:31:32 lol Aug 28 17:31:37 but you are running Android Angry Birds ? Aug 28 17:31:41 man im tired Aug 28 17:31:49 i forgot how to mount the system area rw Aug 28 17:31:58 Last night, jon's kernel would make WebOS run at like 1 fps with 0 touchscreen support Aug 28 17:32:01 rm -rf * Aug 28 17:32:02 and now, it's normal Aug 28 17:32:25 I hope that makes sense Aug 28 17:32:37 Smith7018: how did you mount system area rw? i forgot the damn command Aug 28 17:32:40 i got 2hrs sleep Aug 28 17:32:40 :P Aug 28 17:32:43 help a brother here Aug 28 17:32:55 rhcp: you don't have any tiny idea of why does android dynamic linked binaries wont run? just like that ^^ Aug 28 17:33:04 Flemmard: which one? Aug 28 17:33:07 mount -o remount,rw / Aug 28 17:33:07 ? Aug 28 17:33:14 which binaries ? Aug 28 17:33:18 i thought i did that Aug 28 17:33:18 lol Aug 28 17:33:20 yes Flemmard Aug 28 17:33:21 rhcp: which binaries you mean ? Aug 28 17:33:23 all Aug 28 17:33:26 all dynamic linked Aug 28 17:33:40 static linked bins works fine Aug 28 17:33:42 like busybox etc Aug 28 17:33:51 dynamic linked just segfault Aug 28 17:34:01 So any dynamically linked library is segfaulting ? Aug 28 17:34:22 Flemmard, maybe unrelated, but Fat32 doesn't follow soft/hard links well, if it all IIRC Aug 28 17:34:33 my system is ext3 Aug 28 17:34:34 but thanls Aug 28 17:34:35 :P Aug 28 17:34:38 :P Aug 28 17:34:56 wohoo i have my own /media/ext3fs ;) Aug 28 17:35:16 but here i'm stuck Aug 28 17:35:17 yes fat32 won't resolve soft or hard links as I recall Aug 28 17:35:35 flemmard any pointers on what you've done to the initrd to setup the lvm? Aug 28 17:35:53 Flemmard, did you mount the system.img yourself or did you use fastboot? Aug 28 17:35:53 mauimauer: init script of webos :) Aug 28 17:35:56 maybe those soft links got corrupted when you pushed things over in mass storage mode Aug 28 17:36:02 it does all needed Aug 28 17:36:04 and lvm.static Aug 28 17:36:14 ok then I'll use that ;) Aug 28 17:36:14 you have to mknod /dev/mmcblk0etc Aug 28 17:36:22 and then call lvm.static vgscan Aug 28 17:36:31 maybe you should tar your system and unpack it on the tp Aug 28 17:36:36 yes Aug 28 17:36:49 root@root:/home/rhcp/Downloads/adb/adb/system/bin# adb devices Aug 28 17:36:49 List of devices attached Aug 28 17:37:07 Smith7018: missing something? Aug 28 17:37:09 rhcp doesn't work for you? Aug 28 17:37:22 like a touchpad ? Aug 28 17:37:35 root@Rhcptp:/var/home/root# ps aux | grep adb Aug 28 17:37:35 root 4982 0.0 0.0 1340 124 ? SNl 10:31 0:00 adbd Aug 28 17:37:35 root 5059 0.2 0.0 2748 596 ? Ss 10:33 0:00 /sbin/getty /dev/android_adb 115200 vt100 Aug 28 17:37:46 brb rebooting Aug 28 17:37:50 localhost:platform-tools bsmith$ ./adb devices Aug 28 17:37:50 List of devices attached Aug 28 17:37:50 000000000000 device Aug 28 17:38:00 Smith7018: i believe you Aug 28 17:38:04 something im doing wrong though? Aug 28 17:38:04 are you sure you're running adbd? Aug 28 17:38:05 So you guys have Android running in recovery? Aug 28 17:38:11 root@Rhcptp:/var/home/root# ps aux | grep adb Aug 28 17:38:11 root 4982 0.0 0.0 1340 124 ? SNl 10:31 0:00 adbd Aug 28 17:38:11 root 5059 0.2 0.0 2748 596 ? Ss 10:33 0:00 /sbin/getty /dev/android_adb 115200 vt100 Aug 28 17:38:15 see the bin Aug 28 17:38:16 and your sh is proper? :\ Aug 28 17:38:16 from ps Aug 28 17:38:20 yea Aug 28 17:38:28 Nice Aug 28 17:38:43 Flemmard…you modified ramdisk.img, right? Aug 28 17:39:02 i took an android ramdisk Aug 28 17:39:03 hmmm Aug 28 17:39:06 did you need to dhown? Aug 28 17:39:09 chown Aug 28 17:39:10 so yeah ;) Aug 28 17:39:12 adbd? Aug 28 17:39:14 or sh Aug 28 17:39:14 I didnt Aug 28 17:39:17 k Aug 28 17:39:21 I just threw it up there :\ Aug 28 17:39:21 added lvm.static an busybox in it Aug 28 17:39:34 try killing adbd and running it again? Aug 28 17:39:58 * BatNode is super excited to watch this shit happen Aug 28 17:40:17 i did Aug 28 17:40:18 0 Aug 28 17:40:32 following you on Twitter Aug 28 17:40:45 @rhcp011235 Aug 28 17:40:46 is mine Aug 28 17:41:02 yup I retweet Aug 28 17:41:11 thanks blizz5243 Aug 28 17:41:14 so erm Aug 28 17:41:20 Smith7018: to get adb :) Aug 28 17:41:29 Ya, I'm trying to think... Aug 28 17:41:30 :\ Aug 28 17:41:42 in other news, adb reboot works :O Aug 28 17:41:44 *:P Aug 28 17:41:55 what does adb reboot recovery Aug 28 17:41:56 result? Aug 28 17:42:00 bootie? :) Aug 28 17:42:07 try deleteing the binaries Aug 28 17:42:11 putting them back Aug 28 17:42:13 I just got told thatcm has a working port of the tp Aug 28 17:42:13 and not chmod'ing Aug 28 17:42:31 rhcp, nah, just restarts Aug 28 17:43:00 k Aug 28 17:43:39 ok so rhcp, you don't have any idea about my 'problem' i suppose? ^^ i can't figure out what's cause this Aug 28 17:44:11 @darkred source? Aug 28 17:44:13 i must do something wrong, but i can't see where Aug 28 17:44:25 the touchdroid wiki says that CAF is Qualcomm, which I believe is wrong Aug 28 17:44:43 Code Aurora Forum = Qualcomm Aug 28 17:44:43 root@Rhcptp:/sbin# -sh: ./adbd: Permission denied Aug 28 17:44:48 if i dont chmod Aug 28 17:44:50 or rather Qualcomm Innovation Center Aug 28 17:44:58 sigh Aug 28 17:44:59 Flemmard: im sorry, im trying to get adb here im not really following you Aug 28 17:45:01 no slep Aug 28 17:45:02 sleep Aug 28 17:45:06 want to msg me Aug 28 17:45:06 mauimauer, srsly? wow Aug 28 17:45:06 ? Aug 28 17:45:08 no prob :) Aug 28 17:45:13 so i can read it Aug 28 17:45:18 chan is moving too fast Aug 28 17:45:19 yup… pretty sure of that Aug 28 17:45:22 rhcp, chmod a+x, I guess Aug 28 17:45:24 well no continue what u're doing :) Aug 28 17:46:14 flemmard i will be up to your current state soon ;) Aug 28 17:46:28 just have to wait for my aosp rebuild…-j4 Aug 28 17:46:31 could take a bit Aug 28 17:46:40 for some reason, I feel like qualcomm is some large faceless chinese company Aug 28 17:46:41 i hate aosp build Aug 28 17:46:44 (foxconn) lol Aug 28 17:46:50 root@root:/home/rhcp/Downloads/adb/adb/system/bin# adb devices Aug 28 17:46:51 * daemon not running. starting it now on port 5037 * Aug 28 17:46:51 * daemon started successfully * Aug 28 17:46:51 List of devices attached Aug 28 17:47:01 DarkRed where you at Aug 28 17:47:12 rhcp did you kill novacomd? Aug 28 17:47:22 maybe that's preventing adbd from taking over Aug 28 17:47:50 BatNode: I'm here, I'm just trying to verify if this is true or not Aug 28 17:47:55 I'm in the cm irc Aug 28 17:48:13 maybe Aug 28 17:48:18 i did not check that Aug 28 17:48:18 :) Aug 28 17:48:22 pretty sure if it were true there would be something on their twitter Aug 28 17:48:34 sampson: same :) Aug 28 17:48:39 sampson: That's what I'm thinking Aug 28 17:48:48 what's the rumour? Aug 28 17:48:57 CyanogenMod has it working already apparently Aug 28 17:49:00 CM has a working port of Android on the tp Aug 28 17:49:12 What is the CM chan? Aug 28 17:49:13 i don't mind ;) Aug 28 17:49:18 #cyanogenmod Aug 28 17:49:19 all i want is android on the tp Aug 28 17:49:21 I haven't seen anything on twitter Aug 28 17:49:33 driveN: you can't get in the irc, they +r it Aug 28 17:49:36 I want dual boot Aug 28 17:49:41 i think it's fruitless and retarded to rumor monger and bug developers to detract them from whatever they're working on Aug 28 17:49:47 Oh alright, that makes sense Aug 28 17:49:54 all i want is honeycomb Aug 28 17:50:01 keep wishing Aug 28 17:50:04 mauimauer: if i try to kill it Aug 28 17:50:05 =P Aug 28 17:50:06 it restarts Aug 28 17:50:12 it would ne nice to have both systems Aug 28 17:50:13 erm, rhcp, what're the chances you're not using the correct kernel? :P Aug 28 17:50:15 although CM7 is pretty awesome Aug 28 17:50:17 i am Aug 28 17:50:19 webOS is pretty nice Aug 28 17:50:21 if CM were working on a tp port and they had something worthwhile Aug 28 17:50:22 no novacom Aug 28 17:50:24 they would've said something Aug 28 17:50:27 I've heard webOS is nice Aug 28 17:50:27 ah Aug 28 17:50:29 WebOS is garbage Aug 28 17:50:31 it's the lack of apps/support =/ Aug 28 17:50:38 mhhh Aug 28 17:50:38 i heard its lightning fast Aug 28 17:50:39 webos is not garbage Aug 28 17:50:40 I thought that would be a hilarious twist Aug 28 17:50:42 so it's pretty easy to assume that nothing is working Aug 28 17:50:58 lack of apps - what app specifically are you missing that is so necessary for a tablet Aug 28 17:51:03 webos is great Aug 28 17:51:06 is better looking than androis Aug 28 17:51:14 I just need the basic apps Aug 28 17:51:15 i've been asking android fanboys this and i've yet to have a real response past OMG APPSTORE Aug 28 17:51:16 i like the looks and the cards system Aug 28 17:51:17 AMD I'm good Aug 28 17:51:18 sampson, all the apps. Aug 28 17:51:24 LOL Aug 28 17:51:26 sampson: honestly ios has a shit ton of apps I'd love to have on both android or webos Aug 28 17:51:26 UPDATE: They are still working on the port, but they are making significant progress, they refuse to tell me where they are progress wise though Aug 28 17:51:40 I dunno, I haven't gotten my touchpad yet Aug 28 17:51:44 I havent' messed with webos Aug 28 17:51:49 DarkRedFlame|TP: translation: this is how rumors get started Aug 28 17:51:52 DarkRedFlame|TP: i call BS Aug 28 17:51:56 I've been thinking of writing a DreamBoard theme for my phone to mimic the touchpad's home screen Aug 28 17:52:01 cut, end scene Aug 28 17:52:01 and yes as sampson said Aug 28 17:52:11 and it cause other issues Aug 28 17:52:15 like moral to go down Aug 28 17:52:26 rhcp: You can call BS, I'm only stating on what I was told in the cm irc Aug 28 17:52:28 rhcp- call BS on the cm team? really? Aug 28 17:52:35 yes Aug 28 17:52:38 i call it all the time Aug 28 17:52:41 lol Aug 28 17:52:48 does it have good IRC and FTP apps? security apps like the one that allowed me to get my droidx back after it fell out of my car while driving Aug 28 17:52:52 why you im banned from all their chans Aug 28 17:52:53 I called BS on the holocaust once. That didn't go well Aug 28 17:52:53 the card concept is the best on any tablet Aug 28 17:52:59 :P Aug 28 17:53:07 rhcp, hehe you can OC this kernel to 1.5 :) Aug 28 17:53:16 the chip is designed to run 1.5 Aug 28 17:53:18 so yes Aug 28 17:53:19 irc? webos has one of the best irc apps Aug 28 17:53:23 but i still love my gtab101 Aug 28 17:53:31 enable testing feed in preware and install wirc Aug 28 17:53:33 RHCP - you're baned from the CM channels? lol Aug 28 17:53:38 BatNode: all Aug 28 17:53:40 rhcp: No idea why you are banned, I'm allowed in cause I was a ex-dev for CM Aug 28 17:53:42 i outed koush Aug 28 17:53:44 and a few others Aug 28 17:53:57 with public logs Aug 28 17:54:08 ftp client no, but if you need a ftp client on a phone/tablet you're doing it wrong Aug 28 17:54:23 mauimauer, I have one of those. It reminds me everyday what a pain in the ass Android is to use Aug 28 17:54:24 WHAT ROOM ARE THEY IN RED Aug 28 17:54:29 I don't want one I'd like one Aug 28 17:54:30 oops. fucking caps Aug 28 17:54:33 thats what i'm talking about app support =/ Aug 28 17:54:40 hc 3.1 is a little sluggish... Aug 28 17:54:42 jfc let's not start flooding the cm devs with stupid rumor mongering Aug 28 17:54:47 BatNode: #cyanogenmod, but the irc is Aug 28 17:54:48 BatNode: you really need to fix your caps :) Aug 28 17:54:48 I would use it Aug 28 17:54:49 but they'll get better ;) Aug 28 17:54:49 grow up Aug 28 17:54:52 +r Aug 28 17:55:02 I'm in that room right now Aug 28 17:55:16 i am in aswell Aug 28 17:55:19 mauimauer, the whole experience is a mess Aug 28 17:55:34 sampson, from the very little messing i've done with webos (less than 5 minutes) I liked it, and I think it has potential, but mainly because the limited apps and support I'd rather have android Aug 28 17:55:35 true…partially samsung's fault Aug 28 17:55:37 hc 3.2 is nice Aug 28 17:55:41 everyone knows everyone is batshit insane about android on a touchpad for some rediculous reason, cool down and wait for a real announcement Aug 28 17:55:43 but no apps support on alot Aug 28 17:55:45 Ask them whats up then, I'm only going by what I was just told Aug 28 17:56:00 DarkRedFlame|TP: who told you Aug 28 17:56:00 Shotty screen, 15 different ports of a phone OS and a shoehorned tablet OS that is the crappiest thing I have EVER seen Aug 28 17:56:06 @Sampson - because we all want our tablets to be useful? Aug 28 17:56:08 if a "team" isn't announcing shit then don't expect anything Aug 28 17:56:15 hello Aug 28 17:56:15 BatNode: sorry you're blind to the fact how usable webos is Aug 28 17:56:17 Android is a mess of an operating system, IMHO Aug 28 17:56:20 rhcp: One of the devs, he asked to remain anon Aug 28 17:56:26 oh channel open to discussion :) Aug 28 17:56:26 kmobs then Aug 28 17:56:26 but it's an extremely competent and powerful operating system Aug 28 17:56:29 hey guys, what about keeping emotions low on the other groups to not start some drama again. seems quiet now, what about letting it for a while? Aug 28 17:56:45 :P Aug 28 17:56:52 Haha kid I've been using webOS since it came out n the original Palm Pre. It's far from useless but it's far from usable. It's tolerable to be honest. Aug 28 17:56:55 Smith7018, you must be new to the computer world. Welcome. Aug 28 17:56:58 webOS is nice but devs are moving on so we need something that will be supported Aug 28 17:56:58 sorry if it's repetitive question, but is there a status/progress page ? Aug 28 17:57:03 yeah…this is not a friggin soap opera Aug 28 17:57:07 with things people can help ? Aug 28 17:57:09 http://team-touchdroid.com/wiki/index.php?title=Current_Progress Aug 28 17:57:15 BatNode, thanks a lot :) Aug 28 17:57:17 WiredNix, lol GTFO. Aug 28 17:57:19 compared to 1.4 3.0 is extremely fleshed out and all the issues i had from 1.x are gone Aug 28 17:57:22 besides the price of the unit i think its the act of changing it like that ....idk.about u guys but i always get this sense of high from accomplishing a hacking feat lol though my skills are still ehh lol Aug 28 17:58:08 I've been programming for 8 years, I know a multitude of languages, have a lot of reverse engineering experience, hell it's even my job Aug 28 17:58:09 dreed75: i'm diggin webos even though i had no intention of running it for a long time... this is what i said about it on G+ last night. http://goo.gl/d6ofs (no need to type it all again) Aug 28 17:58:26 well i booted stock recovery ;) Aug 28 17:58:27 nice Aug 28 17:58:33 not on the wiki but i still did it ;) Aug 28 17:58:39 who cares…not me ;) Aug 28 17:58:40 HOW Aug 28 17:58:54 Smith7018, your statements don't reflect any of that. Aug 28 17:58:58 mauimauer, novacom boot mem:// < recovery Aug 28 17:59:10 sty like that, yeah ;) Aug 28 17:59:23 WiredNix, launch WebOS, scroll the folder and watch the lack of delay Aug 28 17:59:27 farchord: thanks for the wiki. i asked it days ago but noone seemd to care. i think its a good and fast thing to feed the guys asking for progress or ETA Aug 28 17:59:30 launch iOS, scroll the main screen and watch the lack of delay Aug 28 17:59:39 oohhh can't wait for some adb fun Aug 28 17:59:43 launch Android, scroll the homescreen and watch the delay Aug 28 17:59:45 k1l, indeed Aug 28 17:59:50 but the thing is…my screen output wasn't distorted like the cwm recovery Aug 28 17:59:53 right, missed anything? Aug 28 18:00:00 * Pulser is back. as should be apparent :) Aug 28 18:00:12 Pulser: Smith7018 has adbd working Aug 28 18:00:13 OH GOD HOW LONG HAS HE BEEN HERE Aug 28 18:00:14 i dono Aug 28 18:00:18 right Aug 28 18:00:19 Pulser: try to get it Aug 28 18:00:23 i cant for w/e reason Aug 28 18:00:26 im tired i think Aug 28 18:00:29 hmmm Aug 28 18:00:32 so he is running adbd Aug 28 18:00:33 haha Aug 28 18:00:35 yerp Aug 28 18:00:36 via ssh or something Aug 28 18:00:39 and then it will run Aug 28 18:00:43 OK that's fine, I trust him on that :) Aug 28 18:00:50 Pulser: http://www.mediafire.com/?on5u1r4qa7gg0ty Aug 28 18:00:53 is the bins Aug 28 18:00:54 but hem Aug 28 18:00:56 did we look at the dynamically compiled shit not running? Aug 28 18:01:01 nope Aug 28 18:01:02 adbd is not in system ? Aug 28 18:01:04 no progress on that Aug 28 18:01:07 ok Aug 28 18:01:08 so it should be started automaticly .. Aug 28 18:01:08 :( Aug 28 18:01:10 No need to believe me Aug 28 18:01:11 http://i.imgur.com/z3lY8.png Aug 28 18:01:13 well for me iti s Aug 28 18:01:15 it is Aug 28 18:01:18 Flemmard…rhcp is running adbd on webos Aug 28 18:01:23 ah ok Aug 28 18:01:24 why ? Aug 28 18:01:27 the android Regina 3d launcher would look sweet on the 9.7 Aug 28 18:01:29 dunno ;) Aug 28 18:01:47 List of devices attached Aug 28 18:01:47 000000000000 device Aug 28 18:01:47 Z:\toto\test>adb shell Aug 28 18:01:52 # Aug 28 18:01:52 :) Aug 28 18:01:55 :) Aug 28 18:02:00 but .. Aug 28 18:02:02 but the bins Aug 28 18:02:04 ;) Aug 28 18:02:05 so... who is furtherst ahead right now? Aug 28 18:02:09 i tried compiling a binary Aug 28 18:02:11 ok Aug 28 18:02:12 no luck Aug 28 18:02:13 Apparently the CM team Aug 28 18:02:17 Flemmard, so nothing can run? Aug 28 18:02:21 no rumors please Aug 28 18:02:23 nah. I was meaning in this irc Aug 28 18:02:29 ie. what is needing done? Aug 28 18:02:30 Pulser: nothing dynamicly linked Aug 28 18:02:32 I can't do kernels Aug 28 18:02:35 but I can do userspace stuff Aug 28 18:02:36 :P Aug 28 18:02:42 get adbd going Aug 28 18:02:42 :) Aug 28 18:02:43 ok so nothing dynamically linked Aug 28 18:02:44 im too tired Aug 28 18:02:48 i am still rebuilding...aosp Aug 28 18:02:52 * TellarHK wakes up. Yay, progress. Re-lurk. :) Aug 28 18:02:53 *sigh* Aug 28 18:03:00 so we tried 3 different things Aug 28 18:03:06 none of these 3 worked Aug 28 18:03:08 "and your children will forever hate you." :D Aug 28 18:03:09 yeah Aug 28 18:05:23 * mputtr is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 15 minutes Aug 28 18:07:10 ravfin: if there was a webOS netflix client, and a generic "app player" I wouldn't care about android on TP. Aug 28 18:07:47 dreed75 same Aug 28 18:07:47 I hope ice cream sandwich has cards though. iits the Aug 28 18:07:48 Flemmard, Aug 28 18:07:50 http://groups.google.com/group/android-platform/browse_thread/thread/c0ad9894797242d3?pli=1 Aug 28 18:07:54 dumb question : will it be possible to restore back the webos firmware ? Aug 28 18:08:00 * Pulser is researching errors with dynamic binaries Aug 28 18:08:08 got it. it was about setting ARCH_ARM_HAVE_TLS_REGISTER in custom Aug 28 18:08:08 BoardConfig.mk Aug 28 18:08:16 its the best GUI feature for tablets imo Aug 28 18:08:18 Look up itching thumb in the android market. It uses the cards system. Aug 28 18:08:39 sweet Aug 28 18:09:02 hmm Aug 28 18:09:10 I am checking the value on my build Aug 28 18:09:20 it's in android build ? Aug 28 18:09:25 or kernel Aug 28 18:09:25 @ Yes, from what I have been told from others on here, it will be possible to restore the orgrinal webos once an upgrade to android has been done Aug 28 18:09:40 CONFIG_HAS_TLS_REG Aug 28 18:09:42 ARCH_ARM_HAVE_TLS_REGISTER := true Aug 28 18:09:43 maybe i must disable it :) Aug 28 18:09:50 that's in the android build Aug 28 18:10:14 hm Aug 28 18:10:40 i'll give it a short Aug 28 18:10:41 shot Aug 28 18:10:42 Brobbins87, ok Aug 28 18:10:55 so ARCH_ARM_HAVE_TLS_REGISTER:=false? Aug 28 18:10:56 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.android.porting/12312 Aug 28 18:11:26 this flag only applies on gingerbread and up iirc Aug 28 18:11:38 awesome reference at http://arowboat.wordpress.com/2011/08/ Aug 28 18:11:42 Flemmard, ^^^ Aug 28 18:11:55 I just hope you guys can get android on here cause I think a camera will appear on the back of the tab. 8MP w/flash I hope. Aug 28 18:11:56 I think a lot of people are just impatient for Android because they don't believe it can happen at all until it's done. It's happening. It's just going to take a little time. Chill, folks. It's coming eventually. All the _critical_ stuff is done. The rest is just making it happen. Aug 28 18:12:26 Pulser: maybe i must disable it on kernel? Aug 28 18:12:28 tls_reg Aug 28 18:12:31 hmmmm Aug 28 18:12:36 is it on or off in kernel? Aug 28 18:12:41 * Pulser is reading that last article right now Aug 28 18:12:49 well it should match... Aug 28 18:12:58 it is on Aug 28 18:13:07 ok Aug 28 18:13:16 yup Aug 28 18:13:21 let's turn it off ;) Aug 28 18:13:24 yeah Aug 28 18:13:26 makes sense Aug 28 18:13:31 if we disable it in both kernel and ROM Aug 28 18:13:42 worth a try Aug 28 18:14:30 blemme try Aug 28 18:14:32 lemme try Aug 28 18:15:13 compiling kernel Aug 28 18:15:22 not from scratch but .. Aug 28 18:15:31 k Aug 28 18:15:50 hmm Aug 28 18:15:57 it's been reenabled Aug 28 18:16:07 orly? Aug 28 18:16:17 some other thing must depend on it Aug 28 18:16:32 then try disable it in the aosp Aug 28 18:16:42 or see what's enabling it ;) Aug 28 18:17:13 config HAS_TLS_REG Aug 28 18:17:14 bool Aug 28 18:17:14 depends on !TLS_REG_EMUL Aug 28 18:17:14 default y if SMP || CPU_32v7 Aug 28 18:17:15 ok Aug 28 18:17:20 so it's enabled by default Aug 28 18:17:22 if SMP Aug 28 18:17:24 I think this is related to libc Aug 28 18:17:32 yea, tmzt_ said that last night Aug 28 18:17:36 OK Aug 28 18:17:39 if you remerm Aug 28 18:17:39 brb Aug 28 18:17:41 remember Aug 28 18:17:41 put aside this TLS thing Aug 28 18:18:18 os[Linux 2.6.38-11-generic x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "natty" 11.04] cpu[4 x AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 800MHz] mem[Physical: 11.8GB, 64.9% free] disk[Total: 682.2GB, 90.0% free] video[ATI Technologies Inc RV770 [Radeon HD 4850]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB1: USB-Audio - USB Device 0x46d:0x8082: USB-Audio - Razer Megalodon3: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI] Aug 28 18:18:24 Oh yeah. Works :D Aug 28 18:19:27 which xchat script is that Aug 28 18:19:36 in ubuntu, xchat-xsus Aug 28 18:19:40 *xchat-xsys Aug 28 18:19:40 ok so for tls_reg we're fucked Pulser that's it? Aug 28 18:19:51 Flemmard, I would put aside this tls reg thing Aug 28 18:19:52 package? Aug 28 18:19:55 or script? Aug 28 18:19:59 package Aug 28 18:20:00 k Aug 28 18:20:01 Pulser: so what .. Aug 28 18:20:01 I think it is a red herring Aug 28 18:20:03 its the xsys script Aug 28 18:20:06 I think it's Libc Aug 28 18:20:11 yea Aug 28 18:20:11 as rhcp mentioned Aug 28 18:20:18 ok it's libc Aug 28 18:20:20 but then ? Aug 28 18:20:28 i tried pushing libc that's in ndk Aug 28 18:20:29 same Aug 28 18:20:32 right Aug 28 18:20:34 so what we do now Aug 28 18:20:38 is use "google-fu" Aug 28 18:20:39 :) Aug 28 18:21:19 i already tried lol Aug 28 18:21:50 right Aug 28 18:21:52 so... Aug 28 18:21:55 on android it's called bionic Aug 28 18:22:04 saw picture of working adb, grats guy.. keep up the good work Aug 28 18:22:15 bionic ? Aug 28 18:22:22 yes Aug 28 18:22:26 bionic does the libc role Aug 28 18:22:28 afaik Aug 28 18:22:37 as glibc and others would not work l;egally Aug 28 18:22:40 right Aug 28 18:22:48 ah yes Aug 28 18:23:05 how do i run it? :) Aug 28 18:23:07 in xchat Aug 28 18:23:16 glibc is lgpl so not quite true it wouldn't work legally =P Aug 28 18:23:21 well Aug 28 18:23:30 RaYmAn, I think the issue is that android is APL Aug 28 18:23:43 as they wanted the userspace to be APL/MIT etc Aug 28 18:23:50 Pulser: android is a mixture of BSD, APL, MIT and GPL =P Aug 28 18:23:56 farchord, whats the command? :) Aug 28 18:24:27 but either way, they did decide to use their own, called bionic :) Aug 28 18:25:11 true Aug 28 18:25:40 Pulser: in you build, it was enabled or disabled ? Aug 28 18:26:01 (the TLS thing_ Aug 28 18:27:02 SysInfo: Linux 2.6.38-11-generic | Dual Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 870 @ 2.93GHz 1200.000 MHz | Mem: 3184/16427M [||||||||||] | Diskspace: 5510G Free: 4547G | Bogomips: 46815.6 | Screen Res: 3840x1080 | Procs: 263 | | Up: | eth0: In: 972.55M Out: 108.63M Aug 28 18:27:09 ok thats not the one he ran Aug 28 18:27:10 :P Aug 28 18:27:35 Flemmard, enabled Aug 28 18:27:36 in mine Aug 28 18:27:38 ok Aug 28 18:27:41 and enabled in kernel Aug 28 18:27:42 Wait you have 16GB of RAM and an i7 CPU...and you're in Linux with it? Aug 28 18:27:46 so .. should'n t be a proble Aug 28 18:27:55 BatNode, yes Aug 28 18:28:07 What GPU are you rocking? Aug 28 18:28:35 rhcp: sorry was in the rr, /sysinfo Aug 28 18:28:42 os[Linux 2.6.38-11-generic x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "natty" 11.04] cpu[8 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 870 @ 2.93GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.20GHz] mem[Physical: 15.7GB, 80.6% free] disk[Total: 5.4TB, 82.4% free] video[nVidia Corporation G92 [GeForce 9800 GT]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel] Aug 28 18:29:03 yep :) Aug 28 18:29:04 thx Aug 28 18:29:04 Blah you need a new video card lol Aug 28 18:29:12 it was for osx Aug 28 18:29:19 i swapped to full linux Aug 28 18:29:19 Not for Linux he doesn't. :) Aug 28 18:29:36 i got an ATI here. w/e though Aug 28 18:29:38 works fine Aug 28 18:29:43 hackintosh? lol Aug 28 18:29:47 yea Aug 28 18:29:51 i dev for them (did) Aug 28 18:29:55 still on ircd Aug 28 18:29:58 at times Aug 28 18:30:08 I had a hackintosh before on 10.5.x, but 10.6.x is too painful Aug 28 18:30:12 Pulser: ok so .. we have to find another reason .. Aug 28 18:30:12 I was hoping to Hackintosh my i7 laptop, but no luck. Oh well. :) Aug 28 18:30:18 Flemmard, I am looking at bionic Aug 28 18:30:21 let me ask a few people Aug 28 18:30:23 that and hackintoshes on AMDs is a pain Aug 28 18:30:31 no its not Aug 28 18:30:31 ahh cool lol i tried on my computer but ugh no drivers for my 6970 lol Aug 28 18:30:33 No one should be using and AMD hardware Aug 28 18:30:36 you just need to run the right kernel Aug 28 18:30:37 why would anybody willingly put MacOS on their PC?" Aug 28 18:30:37 for amd Aug 28 18:30:39 very easy Aug 28 18:31:01 rhcp, I mean more searching for the right drivers, changing the UUIDs, etc etc etc Aug 28 18:31:01 Lion runs on a amd Aug 28 18:31:11 shrug Aug 28 18:31:11 for the fun? lol idc about running i just like to know that i could lol Aug 28 18:31:14 it comes naturl to me :) Aug 28 18:31:16 Pulser: oh okay Aug 28 18:31:19 Lion works good on this machine Aug 28 18:31:30 Why hackintosh? For fun for one thing. For iOS development for another. Aug 28 18:31:31 OK Flemmard Aug 28 18:31:34 ninpo has spoken Aug 28 18:31:35 anything you build has to be built with the ndk to work properly Aug 28 18:31:35 or built statically Aug 28 18:31:52 but shouldn't the aosp build figure that out? Aug 28 18:32:05 uhm Aug 28 18:32:12 and it has to be built with the right ndk Aug 28 18:32:16 ahhh now THIS is a good oldie song.... Aug 28 18:32:22 Billy Joel - Just the way you are Aug 28 18:32:45 using lunch/choosecombo should build runnable binaries Aug 28 18:32:52 yes Aug 28 18:32:54 if it wouldn't why have it Aug 28 18:32:57 Ehh... I don't have much to say on this subject, considering i'm using FreeBSD Aug 28 18:33:05 Flemmard, what did you lunch on? Aug 28 18:33:13 hm ? Aug 28 18:33:22 <mauimauer> using lunch/choosecombo should build runnable binaries Aug 28 18:33:34 what's that ? Aug 28 18:33:35 what did you say to choose combo? Aug 28 18:33:49 mauimauer, 2 secs, just checking my shell logs Aug 28 18:33:54 device, msm8660_surf debug eng? Aug 28 18:33:59 that's what i am buiding Aug 28 18:34:01 right Aug 28 18:34:05 msm8660_surf Aug 28 18:34:06 same Aug 28 18:34:22 eh aurora route eh? Aug 28 18:34:28 aye Aug 28 18:34:44 i'm re-grabbing that CA source but to test out the DalvikVM it builds on WebOS itself Aug 28 18:35:56 k Aug 28 18:36:52 rhcp: Which wm do you use in linux? Aug 28 18:37:29 _cough_ blackbox Aug 28 18:37:44 but i'm a minimalist. Aug 28 18:37:58 Flemmard, http://groups.google.com/group/android-internals/browse_thread/thread/5dd7cc07f256ac15/b90b4277bd1ea2d7 Aug 28 18:38:02 did we already try a generic aosp build? Aug 28 18:38:03 when natty its unity as stock, or gnome2 if selected classic. Aug 28 18:38:08 mauimauer, we have tried Aug 28 18:38:14 mhhhh Aug 28 18:38:18 1) Flemmard's generic Cm7 build Aug 28 18:38:30 2) My Code Aurora AOSP build for msm8660_surf Aug 28 18:38:34 3) froyo dump Aug 28 18:38:39 well init works Aug 28 18:38:42 ashmem... Aug 28 18:38:46 ok so init works Aug 28 18:38:47 hmm you guy sare building aosp? Aug 28 18:38:49 Oh Aug 28 18:38:50 aurora aosp Aug 28 18:38:54 Lunch menu... pick a combo: 1. full-eng 2. full_x86-eng 3. vbox_x86-eng 4. full_passion-userdebug 5. full_crespo4g-userdebug 6. full_crespo-userdebug Aug 28 18:38:58 rhcp, we are trying anything :P Aug 28 18:39:00 i was going to say this is all i have for AOSP Aug 28 18:39:04 real aosp Aug 28 18:39:04 at the moment we just want to see binaries running Aug 28 18:39:14 qcom uses choosecombo Aug 28 18:39:16 c0ns0le, I use xfce.... Gnome and KDE just became.... too horrible Aug 28 18:39:19 then we can find a better one Aug 28 18:39:20 LOL Aug 28 18:39:23 disabling tls is not a good idea :D Aug 28 18:39:27 lol Aug 28 18:39:28 ok Aug 28 18:39:33 hey, quick question Aug 28 18:39:34 C: 0x8009d0f4: Aug 28 18:39:34 0f4 e1a01000 e1a00006 e12fff38 e3a01000 e1a00004 e1a02001 eb011411 e5970030 Aug 28 18:39:34 114 ebffe867 e59f2070 e5955004 e79f2002 e59f3068 e08f3003 e2833014 e1a06000 Aug 28 18:39:34 I thought we agreed to ignore that for now? Aug 28 18:39:36 which do i need to clone for auroa aosp? Aug 28 18:39:36 etc :D Aug 28 18:39:37 yea Aug 28 18:39:38 ok lol Aug 28 18:39:39 what happened Aug 28 18:39:42 but i wanted to try xD Aug 28 18:39:47 rhcp, I have info here somewhere Aug 28 18:39:50 kernel or system? Aug 28 18:39:55 fair enough Flemmard Aug 28 18:39:59 is there documentation regarding how android was ported to the nook color? Aug 28 18:40:10 I'm interested in how android works Aug 28 18:40:36 android was already on the nook color Aug 28 18:40:37 siestacat, I always thought that the nook color came with android Aug 28 18:40:41 it was just locked down Aug 28 18:40:44 rigjt Aug 28 18:40:45 so they rooted it and voila Aug 28 18:40:45 correct Aug 28 18:40:45 well Aug 28 18:40:46 yes choosecombo 1 1 msm8660_surf eng Aug 28 18:40:50 well Aug 28 18:41:02 how do you learn the guts of android? Aug 28 18:41:13 reading though google documentation? Aug 28 18:41:15 trial and error Aug 28 18:41:15 going through the source and reading white papers on it Aug 28 18:41:40 trial/error google-fu Aug 28 18:41:55 googlefu? Aug 28 18:42:07 fu Google lol Aug 28 18:42:16 googling :-P Aug 28 18:42:22 you know using google to find info Aug 28 18:42:26 rhcp, quick question on this kernel, do you know what android version it was built for? Aug 28 18:42:39 so, there's no wiki regarding boot sectors and things? Aug 28 18:42:42 did I see somewhere that the villainRom dude is in here? Aug 28 18:43:12 andre_pl: he isnt Aug 28 18:43:27 and uh Aug 28 18:43:28 balls Aug 28 18:43:36 how is trial and error approachex? Aug 28 18:43:52 you do something, it works or it doesnt work Aug 28 18:43:58 From there you continue Aug 28 18:44:11 siestacat, what's your background in computing? Aug 28 18:44:20 an Aug 28 18:44:22 andre_pl, ??? Aug 28 18:44:26 there is an android emulator Aug 28 18:44:35 Smith7018 : javascript , cpp Aug 28 18:44:57 siestacat, as in, do you understand computer theory? Aug 28 18:45:04 I know, it's an odd question lol Aug 28 18:45:15 what do you mean? Aug 28 18:45:22 I understand how they function Aug 28 18:45:34 Flemmard, can you check config for Aug 28 18:45:36 CONFIG_SHMEM=y CONFIG_ASHMEM=y Aug 28 18:45:38 in kernel? Aug 28 18:45:52 yes Aug 28 18:45:53 both are here Aug 28 18:45:56 ok Aug 28 18:46:01 i looked at them just now Aug 28 18:46:04 k Aug 28 18:46:05 If you undertand how a kernel operates, how OS' work, and things like that, then this should be decently easy to understand Aug 28 18:46:06 there was HIGHMEM too Aug 28 18:46:09 I just don't know how to go about trial and error when you have an android Rom and a webOS device Aug 28 18:46:13 I don't know if this is in any way related, but when putting linux on the pogoplug pro (oxnas arm chip) they had a similar issue with segfaults, I asked the kernel dev for that project what he had done to fix it, but not being a kernel dev myself I don't understand a word he says, here's the transcript, in case it applies in some way: http://pastebin.com/8f8fd8dS Aug 28 18:46:27 siestacat, start with the kernel in the topic Aug 28 18:46:44 Anyway guys, good luck, i'm going to work, if I figure anything out, i'll let you guys know Aug 28 18:47:10 hmmm Aug 28 18:47:10 smith7018 : ok, I will. this is just edit android settings so the tp recognizes them and then put it in a pretty package? Aug 28 18:47:12 rpierce99, interesting Aug 28 18:47:28 rpierce99, what he's saying is that the binaries/libraries he used were compiled for two different systems Aug 28 18:47:41 so, it's like a library being compiled for OSX but put on Ubuntu Aug 28 18:47:51 it looks lite it should work, but it wouldn't run Aug 28 18:48:25 if that makes sense Aug 28 18:48:26 smith7018 Aug 28 18:48:32 I guess what I'm sayig Aug 28 18:48:36 have you seen TecKnight's little discovery? Aug 28 18:48:40 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1K24KdGNLhaTICV1LXSRLdA8GyyrKAP31uj_LrKU8OG0/edit?hl=en_US&pli=1 Aug 28 18:48:42 full gingerbread source Aug 28 18:48:42 Testyyyy, yes we have Aug 28 18:48:43 how do you get a modified keenel Aug 28 18:48:43 :) Aug 28 18:48:53 kernel on a touchpad? Aug 28 18:48:59 i'm not trying to make sense of it, just trying to help someone smarter than me have an epiphany and go fix it Aug 28 18:49:15 how do you go from something that works to putting it on a device? Aug 28 18:49:17 siestacat, when it's in bootie mode (USB mode in the bootloader) Aug 28 18:49:39 tired of recompiling kernel Aug 28 18:49:39 lol Aug 28 18:49:41 use novacom boot mem:// < /location/of/kernel/on/host/computer Aug 28 18:49:43 smith7018 : how do you access bootie? Aug 28 18:49:50 ah Aug 28 18:49:50 turn off your device Aug 28 18:50:04 plug in usb and hold vol-up Aug 28 18:50:28 smith7018 : can it be rewebos doctored after something like that? Aug 28 18:50:48 so if I duck something up, I can still have a touchpad? Aug 28 18:51:04 siestacat, so long as you don't flash or modify partitions before 14 Aug 28 18:51:06 you should be OK Aug 28 18:51:09 just don't flash shit Aug 28 18:51:09 that only temporarily loads the kernel, so a restart fixes it Aug 28 18:51:16 (or is it before 12 that is dangerous?) Aug 28 18:51:41 smith7018, how do you specify a partition to modify? Aug 28 18:51:56 also, I've found Doctor can fix every situation I've been in, including new partition map, no kernel, wiped /boot :O Aug 28 18:52:08 siestacat, you dont need to, that command should just work Aug 28 18:52:14 WebOS doctor is a very powerful tool tbh Aug 28 18:52:17 it tells the bootloader to use the uploaded kernel Aug 28 18:52:29 webos doctor is OK, but it's not infallible if you don't think Aug 28 18:52:32 i like trench coat ;) Aug 28 18:52:40 so novacom boot mem:// < kernel is completely safe? Aug 28 18:52:41 Testyyyy that is some big shit dude :O Aug 28 18:52:47 Pulser, I like it, but I prefer fixing things myself :) Aug 28 18:52:54 smith7018, so the command edits after whatever is dangerous? Aug 28 18:52:57 hehe true Aug 28 18:53:06 imagine when we deploy android via a custom trenchcoat xml Aug 28 18:53:09 siestacat, nothing dangerous is going on Aug 28 18:53:10 dreams ;) Aug 28 18:53:17 you put your touchpad into bootie mode Aug 28 18:53:22 tell it to load this kernel once Aug 28 18:53:27 and then it tries to boot Aug 28 18:53:36 wow Aug 28 18:53:37 if it cant work, you restart and your normal kernel loads up Aug 28 18:53:41 thanks Aug 28 18:53:44 it even works when you load the kernel out of an vm ;) Aug 28 18:53:49 it's an amazing tool Aug 28 18:53:59 I wish iOS had that kind of tool! Aug 28 18:54:00 technically, you probably can break the device with a sufficiently bad kernel though ;) Aug 28 18:54:25 Smith7018 - iOS is mostly unbrickable tbh Aug 28 18:54:31 DFU mode Aug 28 18:54:41 Ya, I know Aug 28 18:54:46 RayMan: What would constitute "Sufficently Bad" ? Aug 28 18:54:48 I was an iOS developer since 1.0 Aug 28 18:54:55 but meh, things change haha Aug 28 18:54:59 the omap based pre's were unbrickable Aug 28 18:55:00 smith7018 : so if I make a nooby kernel and attempt to run it, will it break my device no matter how dumb? Aug 28 18:55:08 the omap had some recovery code in it's boot ram Aug 28 18:55:08 I used to make jailbroken apps before the appstore :] Aug 28 18:55:18 siestacat, theoretically? No. Aug 28 18:55:23 that allows to recover if the nand is entirely wiped Aug 28 18:55:47 TecKnight: some combination of successly settings that kill some piece of hardware Aug 28 18:56:13 smith7018 : so then how is a Rom compiled and put on the device? Aug 28 18:56:14 on tegra, kernel is responsible for setting voltages used for devices, so e.g. if you set a too high voltage on some device, it can break :P Aug 28 18:56:20 brb phone call Aug 28 18:56:28 but you have to try pretty damn hard or be extremely unlucky ;) Aug 28 18:56:39 guys this is not dev101 let the devs work and dont spam them with questions :) Aug 28 18:57:07 can't wait to deploy my /system ;) Aug 28 18:57:08 miltron soe Aug 28 18:57:12 sorry* Aug 28 18:57:26 even if it does not run anything ;) Aug 28 18:58:08 grrrrr... ran out of disk space on my sparse img.... lol... having to sync all my data over to a new img. Aug 28 19:00:17 tmzt_, you know anything about QDL mode? Aug 28 19:00:58 siestacat, a kernel is compiled seperatly from a ROM Aug 28 19:01:13 and by rom, I mean the system partition Aug 28 19:01:36 that's the tricky part, I don't think theres a universally agreed upon way of using the system partition Aug 28 19:02:06 I'm partial to my dual-boot method, some people want to get rid of WebOS, and I dunno what others want Aug 28 19:02:25 dual boot :D Aug 28 19:02:48 Dual boot would be my preference too. Aug 28 19:03:32 would much prefer dual boot too Aug 28 19:03:33 what I always wondered: How usable is Android 2.2 (2.3) on the touchpad without the appropiate hardware keys? Aug 28 19:03:46 hardware keys? Aug 28 19:03:55 menu/back button at least Aug 28 19:03:55 WebOS is actually really awesome. Aug 28 19:04:11 Velines: CM has on screen buttons for those functions Aug 28 19:04:13 Velines, it's OK Aug 28 19:04:18 There are ways to get software buttons to do what the hardware buttons do. Aug 28 19:04:20 So, dual boot. Aug 28 19:04:23 That'll just take some ROM packaging. Aug 28 19:04:37 Smith7018: alot users want some wine-thing for android apps :) Aug 28 19:04:43 I do prefer dual boot as well Aug 28 19:04:54 ah okay Aug 28 19:04:58 Velines: yeah, they add soft buttons like in honeycomb Aug 28 19:05:02 just like honeycomb then (afaik) Aug 28 19:05:04 k1l, I tried to port dalvik for a little bit but moved onto what I'm doing now :P Aug 28 19:06:15 Smith7018: how'd that go? Aug 28 19:06:18 Smith7018: a dev from milestone-modding mentioned it shouldnt be that hard Aug 28 19:06:27 anyone know of good resources to start learning about kernels, linux system files, compiling kernels, etc? i've been using linux for 10+ years off and on but never really needed to get beyond basic command line administation. I'm a hardware engineer by trade and dabble in simple coding (mostly used to interface with and automate instrumentation). Aug 28 19:06:41 k1l…they also thought unlocking the milestone boot loader would not be that hard Aug 28 19:06:45 But I'd be interested in learning to help in development efforts for stuff like this in my free time Aug 28 19:06:54 gx1400, google kernel noob Aug 28 19:07:19 k1l, ya, but I don't know any WebOS-specific frameworks, so I wouldn't even know how to make a card :P Aug 28 19:08:06 mauimauer: it was more hoping since its hardware related security Aug 28 19:08:22 i know…i was helping out there back then Aug 28 19:08:39 how do I download the kernel in the description? Aug 28 19:08:45 Smith7018: yep, most come in first touch with webos with the TP Aug 28 19:08:54 aka me Aug 28 19:09:05 do i have to use git? Aug 28 19:09:26 * mputtr is no longer away : Gone for 1 hour 19 minutes 2 seconds Aug 28 19:09:30 siestacat: that is source, you have to download the source and build it Aug 28 19:09:37 does anyone think it'd be a good idea to release a built version of the kernel above? I uploaded it to mediafire, but I want to hear people's opinions first Aug 28 19:09:53 And by people, I meant devs lol Aug 28 19:10:09 sure Aug 28 19:10:16 hmmm…why not Aug 28 19:10:21 does it boot in to webos Aug 28 19:10:24 and everything work? Aug 28 19:10:30 vinylfreak89, yes and it has adb Aug 28 19:10:33 does it have all android parts (wakelock etc) Aug 28 19:10:38 but i think everyone seriously helping in here should be able to build the kernel themselves Aug 28 19:10:48 Smith7018, I am swithering Aug 28 19:10:50 perhaps Aug 28 19:10:52 we should update the wiki Aug 28 19:10:56 with info on HOW to build it Aug 28 19:10:58 Smith7018…does nova com still work with the new kernel? Aug 28 19:11:01 in the hope people would do so? Aug 28 19:11:07 since it's a different gadget driver... Aug 28 19:11:09 mauimauer, no Aug 28 19:11:14 mauimauer wouldnt it be quicker for people to download the already built kernel? Aug 28 19:11:30 The kernel boots WebOS with Android patches and can run adb Aug 28 19:11:48 What kernel is this? Aug 28 19:11:52 but you'd need to have adbd already starting, eh? Aug 28 19:11:59 since novacom/term won't work Aug 28 19:12:04 smith7018 ALL android patches? Aug 28 19:12:45 I can't wait till we get this port working Aug 28 19:12:48 vinylfreak89, all I've heard is "the android patches" Aug 28 19:12:53 lol Aug 28 19:12:54 the source is up there Aug 28 19:13:16 BatNode: More like when 'they' get this port working. From what I've seen, we're just spectators. ;) Aug 28 19:13:39 I'll pm jon and ask if it's alright Aug 28 19:13:51 Smith7018: gi... Aug 28 19:13:51 im still behind Aug 28 19:13:55 working on my own kernel Aug 28 19:13:59 c0ns0le, hehe Aug 28 19:14:00 i guess maybe its time to abandon that eh Aug 28 19:14:06 why not join efforts? Aug 28 19:14:19 you ported the palm patches up to 2.6.35.10, didn't ya? Aug 28 19:14:32 yes Aug 28 19:14:39 in efforts to join up with sensation srces Aug 28 19:14:40 but in doing so Aug 28 19:14:42 i broke wifi Aug 28 19:14:43 lol Aug 28 19:14:51 which i THINK is just a module issue Aug 28 19:14:56 but atm i dont have a dev box to test Aug 28 19:15:07 jonpry merged stuff from the android.git kernel to get the android gadget going Aug 28 19:15:17 ok Aug 28 19:15:51 right now im installing preware Aug 28 19:15:56 mauimauer, as in, all of the patches necessary? Aug 28 19:15:57 so i can hve a damn terminal Aug 28 19:16:01 i am stuck with my macbook... Aug 28 19:16:06 i need two monitors ;) Aug 28 19:16:17 Smith7018 dunno Aug 28 19:16:22 rpierce99 : what tools must I use to build it? Aug 28 19:16:34 can't really say that until we successfully boot android ;) Aug 28 19:17:05 i think its been booted Aug 28 19:17:07 am i wrong? Aug 28 19:17:11 I mean Aug 28 19:17:16 yes... Aug 28 19:17:17 is there an android toolkit Aug 28 19:17:21 but we have issues ;) Aug 28 19:17:24 a lot of them Aug 28 19:17:29 yea Aug 28 19:17:32 uh Aug 28 19:17:38 i'm going to keep trying my root with the kernel Aug 28 19:17:42 Flemmard, deployed /system to an extra 2G partition within the lvm Aug 28 19:17:43 not that i think jonpry is wrong Aug 28 19:17:52 but all dyn bin's segfault Aug 28 19:17:56 lolz Aug 28 19:18:13 im probably going to pull from his git as well Aug 28 19:18:14 so Aug 28 19:18:24 are you building a tool to build that? Aug 28 19:18:27 or.... Aug 28 19:18:33 and we were able to memboot little u-boot sandwiches ;) Aug 28 19:18:38 what toolkit do I need to boot android? Aug 28 19:18:42 consisting of the kernel and cwm recovery Aug 28 19:18:46 build* Aug 28 19:19:25 http://source.android.com/source/initializing.html Aug 28 19:20:07 does anyone know if there's a proper gdb build for WebOS? Aug 28 19:20:35 thanks squash Aug 28 19:20:38 brb Aug 28 19:23:29 . Aug 28 19:24:42 has anyone tried using the htc sensation kernel? Aug 28 19:25:00 lol thats what im trying to patch Aug 28 19:25:11 God, I hate downloading Andorid's sources Aug 28 19:25:17 webkit is too fucking big. Aug 28 19:25:23 amen ;) Aug 28 19:25:31 hey guys dont mind me. I got a friend here. Aug 28 19:25:36 I'd rather not download the qcom repo again ;) Aug 28 19:25:37 just fill me in :) Aug 28 19:26:40 flemmard…still around? Aug 28 19:26:47 yes Aug 28 19:26:56 just checking ;) Aug 28 19:27:13 did your strace bring up anything useful? Aug 28 19:27:15 rhcp: they successfully booted android and the TP grew a rear facing camera. 8MP Aug 28 19:27:18 nope Aug 28 19:27:19 lol Aug 28 19:27:26 Well, jonpry said I could send along the built copy Aug 28 19:28:09 So, here it is, BUT mind you, it only launches WebOS now but has patches for preliminary Android support Aug 28 19:28:18 dreed75 hasnt it been booted several times already? Aug 28 19:28:25 http://www.mediafire.com/?ohuccdbmx2360um Aug 28 19:28:50 evulhotdog: yes but a camera sprouted this time Aug 28 19:28:52 so for the 300 people idling in here hoping to get Android, this is not the droid you are looking for Aug 28 19:29:07 lol why would the camera sprout this time? Aug 28 19:29:11 Smith7018 -_- Aug 28 19:29:20 ? Aug 28 19:29:21 don't know...weird Aug 28 19:29:22 Cool. I'm patient though. :) Aug 28 19:29:44 Oh, also I should say, this is all from jonpry, I just built it! (credited :P ) Aug 28 19:31:20 Smith7018, you got it working? Aug 28 19:31:29 Ironsight, got what working? Aug 28 19:31:44 oh nevermind, I just read up Aug 28 19:31:51 sarcasm is hard to express on here obvi Aug 28 19:33:43 how do I download that source Aug 28 19:33:51 do I have to use git? Aug 28 19:34:01 yea Aug 28 19:34:39 siestacat_: follow the instructions Aug 28 19:34:47 it tells you how to pull android source Aug 28 19:35:18 you need to install those packages Aug 28 19:35:21 doing it as we speak Aug 28 19:35:28 I can't get one of those packages Aug 28 19:35:29 then go all the way down, click downloading the source Aug 28 19:35:49 probably jdk, right? Aug 28 19:36:31 uh, squash no Aug 28 19:36:31 I can't get... Aug 28 19:36:44 lib32ncurses5-dev Aug 28 19:38:23 so is that required? Aug 28 19:38:24 It's not downloading... Aug 28 19:38:30 unless I need to add a repository Aug 28 19:39:28 Flemmard…what bins did you add to your ramdisk? Aug 28 19:39:44 busybox and lvm.static Aug 28 19:39:55 makes sense ;) Aug 28 19:40:14 did you build lvm.static or is it in those webos images Aug 28 19:40:23 in webos :) Aug 28 19:42:50 Anyone know if there is a plug for our touchpads to allow gtalk (making an receiving calls) to work? Aug 28 19:43:02 * asdfghk waves to slayher Aug 28 19:43:13 hmmm…can't find lvm.static Aug 28 19:43:19 asdfghk: yeah.... android. Aug 28 19:43:29 asdfghk: but it's a plugin which takesover the device. Aug 28 19:43:30 c0ns0le... Aug 28 19:43:45 webos isnt so bad :) Aug 28 19:43:54 asdfghk: for now the only way I know of in webos would be to run an asterisk server to talk to gtalk and run SIP from touchpad to asterisk assuming the linphone app works there Aug 28 19:44:14 asdfghk: guess i'd ask did you get lost and wonder into the droid channel? ;) Aug 28 19:44:16 hrm Aug 28 19:44:35 flemmard…the busy box in the installer image seems to be dynamically linked? Aug 28 19:44:38 of course skype works Aug 28 19:44:39 so you build one yourself? Aug 28 19:44:50 c0ns0le, nope. I would like to see android on our touchpads but would not mind a dual boot like i hear is being done. :) Aug 28 19:45:02 mauimauer: hm? Aug 28 19:45:07 i took one of our android rom Aug 28 19:45:10 more functions Aug 28 19:46:28 hi Aug 28 19:47:25 http://team-touchdroid.com/wiki/index.php?title=Current_Progress <<< thx, very nice idea Aug 28 19:47:56 is the webOS linux kernel as stripped down as androids? I'm assuming not because you can fully install nginx and other linux services.. Aug 28 19:49:45 morning Aug 28 19:49:48 or actually Aug 28 19:49:51 good afternoon Aug 28 19:50:06 hi Aug 28 19:50:11 afternoon Aug 28 19:50:30 having fun cleaning up this mess Aug 28 19:51:51 ? Aug 28 19:52:33 my house and my gf's house are flooded Aug 28 19:52:48 ProTekk, sorry to hear that.... is your TP safe? Aug 28 19:52:54 shit that sucks Aug 28 19:52:59 farchord, yep Aug 28 19:53:01 i hope you get it cleaned up asap Aug 28 19:53:17 and hope to god you dont get your place deemed "unsafe to stay" Aug 28 19:53:25 ProTekk, hehe, nice, but yeah gl clearing it up, we're having the leftovers of Irene atm Aug 28 19:53:34 mputtr, not a whole hell of a lot to clean until the basements are pumped out Aug 28 19:53:41 got sump pumps running atm Aug 28 19:53:45 nice Aug 28 19:53:52 atleast you're still connected to the web Aug 28 19:53:58 better than being completely off grid Aug 28 19:54:00 heh Aug 28 19:54:01 yea Aug 28 19:54:10 if not i'd tether to my Inc 2 Aug 28 19:54:30 ProTekk, where do you live? Aug 28 19:54:30 careful. your carrier my charge you extra Aug 28 19:54:37 for using your phone when you need it most Aug 28 19:54:46 farchord, NJ Aug 28 19:54:51 oh ok Aug 28 19:55:16 yeah I'm in quebec atm, we're getting a 'tropical storm' Aug 28 19:55:18 nothing but rain Aug 28 19:57:30 its a nice day in Missouri :) Aug 28 19:57:39 no its not Aug 28 19:57:44 there are no stors Aug 28 19:57:47 and its fucking hot Aug 28 19:57:56 21:45 ProTekk morning <<< er... i have to go sleep in a few hours ;) Aug 28 19:57:58 its only 87 outside Aug 28 19:58:03 still too hot lol Aug 28 19:58:08 stors? Aug 28 19:58:14 I want my tornadoes again Aug 28 19:58:35 storms* Aug 28 19:59:18 there are no storms?.... Aug 28 19:59:23 we have storms.. Aug 28 19:59:29 farchord, did you get it running yet? Aug 28 19:59:41 today? Aug 28 19:59:46 which init.rc file gets called by init first? Aug 28 19:59:49 Flatspin, get what now? Oh, nah man I gave up, dont know enough about this shit Aug 28 19:59:55 init is a binary in my android ramdisk Aug 28 20:00:38 I'm right with ya farchord. Just knew when I left you seemed to be making progress with SamCripp Aug 28 20:01:03 well no we kinda both didnt know what the hell we were doing, cant blame him though man he was running blind Aug 28 20:01:18 Flemmard, i have all I need now…but where did you hook your lvm stuff? Aug 28 20:01:21 I have some basic linux knowledge, but this is just way too deep Aug 28 20:01:24 i need to play with novacom myself Aug 28 20:01:26 anyone know how to boot cwm thru novacom? Aug 28 20:01:33 in webos Aug 28 20:01:41 SamCripp, any updates? Aug 28 20:01:42 somewhere in the image Aug 28 20:01:43 but wait Aug 28 20:01:48 I offered my desktop to him to ssh into so he could play with my connected TP but.. Aug 28 20:01:50 erm, I imagine boot mem://? Aug 28 20:01:54 ProTekk your power out yet? Aug 28 20:01:55 ProTekk, we were working on it earlier Aug 28 20:01:56 SamCripp, I guess doing this kind of shit is like sex, even though you watch walkthoughs online, the real thing is always best eh? XD Aug 28 20:01:59 evulhotdog, negative Aug 28 20:02:03 yay :D Aug 28 20:02:04 I've gotten the kernel to compile but couldn't find the image. Aug 28 20:02:11 but is hard to recipricate without having acess to a tp myself Aug 28 20:02:22 Flatspin, it's called uImage in like arch/arm/build Aug 28 20:02:25 from today on my efforts are on acquiring a tp Aug 28 20:02:54 YES Aug 28 20:02:54 I know. It's not there. Aug 28 20:02:55 http://i.imgur.com/ssI9V.jpg Aug 28 20:02:55 SamCripp do you have Aaron's rental stores near you? They're like a rent-a-center Aug 28 20:02:56 * farchord is currently cleaning a MSSQL database..... over 500 000 excess garbage records to clean.... *sigh* Aug 28 20:03:01 farchord, no, i learn by doing Aug 28 20:03:06 mauimauer: i upload it Aug 28 20:03:10 i am using the ramdisk.img i got from building the qcom_repo Aug 28 20:03:10 I did a "find . -name *Image" and nothing.. Aug 28 20:03:12 AaronX, no Aug 28 20:03:14 great! Aug 28 20:03:15 im in pr Aug 28 20:03:17 none here Aug 28 20:03:23 oh damn Aug 28 20:03:24 Flatspin: find /path/to/tree -type f -name '*image' Aug 28 20:03:48 maybe check with the local Best buy? Aug 28 20:03:58 ask what day they get their truck Aug 28 20:04:09 mauimauer, I built that last night but there was no boot.img either. Aug 28 20:04:09 they are not getting them anymore Aug 28 20:04:22 that's as far as they know Aug 28 20:04:29 AaronX, most best buy's get trucks on mondays and wed.....never on fridays or weekends Aug 28 20:04:30 problem is corp doesn't tell them Aug 28 20:04:37 c0ns0le, I was in the root of the kernel tree. didn't have to get that complex. It's not there Aug 28 20:04:52 you have to call on the day they get the truck in and have them check the manifest Aug 28 20:04:55 AaronX, im at the merssy of someone kind enough to sell me one Aug 28 20:04:59 and not riup me off Aug 28 20:05:16 i have a feeling folks are telling people not to sell to the few devs left without them Aug 28 20:05:16 The TP's arent coming in there normal trucks, they are dropshipped this last shipment Aug 28 20:05:17 Flatspin…i use ramdisk.img Aug 28 20:05:23 so even random times throughout the day tehy could get it Aug 28 20:05:30 DTCBob mine were on truck Aug 28 20:05:44 they are not sending them to pr Aug 28 20:05:48 Did it work mauimauer? Aug 28 20:05:51 we are an island Aug 28 20:05:56 yeah on a truck, but not normal shipping truck Aug 28 20:05:57 i went home this weekend to visit my parents, stopped by BB on the way into town to try to pick up a case. guess their truck came in at 7 pm and I got there right about 7:10 Aug 28 20:05:57 yeah PR might be a whole different ballgame Aug 28 20:05:58 I hear that someone at cyanogenmod has been successfull. is that true? Aug 28 20:06:02 You novacom'd it over? Aug 28 20:06:04 dunno…still preparing my ramdisk Aug 28 20:06:09 DTCBob no our last ones were on a normal truck Aug 28 20:06:12 there were already 200+ people lined up to buy about 60 TPs Aug 28 20:06:49 AaronX: really? interesting, the 3 I went to all got random trucks with them during the middle of the day and then just sold them. Aug 28 20:07:06 I work at best uy i can confirm its mon and wednesday and we recieved a newsletter saying we arent getting any more tp Aug 28 20:07:10 AaronX, same here. Aug 28 20:07:15 roscoess, TY! Aug 28 20:07:19 i worked there for 6 months Aug 28 20:07:23 but no one believes shit i say lol Aug 28 20:07:31 All best buy employees buy em anyway and sell em on ebay :P Aug 28 20:07:32 Although most of the people inline with me were friends/family of best buy employees. Aug 28 20:07:33 quick question..how do we check channel logs? Aug 28 20:07:34 any progress guys? Aug 28 20:07:46 the BB i called here in KC, MO said they were just being added to the manifests of the trucks as they left the warehouse, they had no idea if they were getting any till they opened the truck in the loading docks Aug 28 20:08:07 this is the way i feel about it Aug 28 20:08:09 gx1400, they lied to you. Aug 28 20:08:12 i get paid on wensday Aug 28 20:08:18 bbl guys...going to head to my house and see the damage Aug 28 20:08:24 if i havnt found someone by then willing to sell one to me Aug 28 20:08:25 http://www.uplinq.com/sites/default/files/images/Snapdragon-Lab-Creating-Custom-Drivers.pdf Aug 28 20:08:30 Flatspin, entirely possible Aug 28 20:08:31 im quiting working on this project Aug 28 20:08:31 I knew the best buy was geting a shipment last Tuesday and knew exactly the amount they'd get on Sunday. Aug 28 20:08:37 how do you check channel logs? sorry newbie question Aug 28 20:08:41 ima do the whole Aug 28 20:08:46 i dont want to live on this planet Aug 28 20:08:48 and leave Aug 28 20:08:50 https://www.codeaurora.org/xwiki/bin/QAEP/ Aug 28 20:09:12 lol SamCripp Aug 28 20:09:17 best buy in Branson, MO got some in friday night, they sold out 1.5 hours before they opened on sat lol. they had 30. i was 32 in line. lol... but i already got one so im good Aug 28 20:09:39 SamCripp, taking your toys and going home? Aug 28 20:09:55 He needs to have his toys to take em home Aug 28 20:10:01 Springfield got some in on Tuesday Aug 28 20:10:02 taking my guys with me too Aug 28 20:10:04 first link is a how to for making drivers for the chipset in the touchpad Aug 28 20:10:05 Whoever is telling you Best buy isgettingmore is wrong, All bestbuys should have gotte two more shipments of tp and after that they arent getting any more period. thats what corp said Aug 28 20:10:17 handing over my info to cm Aug 28 20:10:22 and calling it a night Aug 28 20:10:28 Gimpeh: yeah that's when i got mine. Wed morning from their tues shipment Aug 28 20:10:47 Thanks for trying SamCripp Aug 28 20:10:49 CM guys also need the device first, theyre ready and willing to work on it Aug 28 20:10:59 second is a repository which houses quics work on android with that and other chipsets Aug 28 20:10:59 I got my two from them the week before as they werent limiting one per customer then Aug 28 20:11:00 wow it's prash..... Aug 28 20:11:13 c0ns0le: It is I indeed Aug 28 20:11:14 prash: ........ cm_girls-1920x*.jpg.... you still have one? Aug 28 20:11:21 of coz Aug 28 20:11:23 one sec Aug 28 20:11:28 I'd find something to keep auto refreshing the HP order page set to alert you when it changes at all. Aug 28 20:11:32 prash, they got devices Aug 28 20:11:33 im sure Aug 28 20:11:39 That's what I'd do if I still needed a TP. Aug 28 20:11:42 Gimpeh: cool. so you live in Springfield? Aug 28 20:11:44 SamCripp: whats up? Aug 28 20:11:45 SamCripp: you do realize he is w/ cm. Aug 28 20:11:45 I got device, but Im only the graphics guy, im no good Aug 28 20:11:50 quiting now too? :) Aug 28 20:11:50 yeah Aug 28 20:11:59 me too Aug 28 20:12:06 lets all quit Aug 28 20:12:08 rhcp: dude, you should be dragging ass with how much you've been up . Aug 28 20:12:09 I'm on the HP project as well Aug 28 20:12:10 lol Aug 28 20:12:11 what on earth Aug 28 20:12:11 irony Aug 28 20:12:35 c0ns0le: Im tired right now. Im chillin with a friend Aug 28 20:12:35 prash, we should, let the folks that are working work Aug 28 20:12:37 lol Aug 28 20:12:39 c0ns0le: http://db.pra.sh/cm-girls-1920x1200 Aug 28 20:12:40 er Aug 28 20:12:42 src is up Aug 28 20:12:42 damnit Aug 28 20:12:42 hey are any of my links useful at all Aug 28 20:12:51 one is for gingerbread Aug 28 20:12:52 c0ns0le: http://db.pra.sh/cm-girls-1920x1200.jpg Aug 28 20:12:59 prash, http://www.theonion.com/articles/new-apple-ceo-tim-cook-im-thinking-printers,21207/ Aug 28 20:13:02 I need a chill time :) Aug 28 20:13:09 Why is everyone quitting? And what are they quitting? Aug 28 20:13:15 I'm so buying a printer Aug 28 20:13:17 prash, Hot Diggity! Hail coders! Aug 28 20:13:20 omg... your my hero Aug 28 20:13:20 lol Aug 28 20:13:28 i've spent all morning looking for that. Aug 28 20:13:42 c0ns0le: i had to take it out of CM but got my originals Aug 28 20:13:44 i had the old walpapers.apk which has it. Aug 28 20:13:48 yeah i read. Aug 28 20:13:49 Hellooooo new screensaver. Aug 28 20:13:53 erm Aug 28 20:13:55 wallpaper Aug 28 20:14:12 prash: that is the same girl right? Aug 28 20:14:21 yeh Aug 28 20:14:24 yeah same blonde Aug 28 20:14:27 i could tell by the cup.... lol. Aug 28 20:14:35 mmmmmm.... saucy.... Aug 28 20:14:47 c0ns0le: thats what beer is for :) Aug 28 20:14:49 Keeley Hazell if anyone wants to google Aug 28 20:14:55 its my 5hrs awake pill Aug 28 20:14:57 :P Aug 28 20:15:30 prash: thnx man..... you'd only make it better if you were a chik too. lol Aug 28 20:15:34 rhcp do you think it will be a long way from the "adb+sound working" status to a first "working" android? Aug 28 20:15:45 Nope,sorry Aug 28 20:16:01 prash: still nice work. Aug 28 20:16:06 rhcp, any idea on how to to get cwm on the device? Aug 28 20:16:15 I didn't do much else other than add CM logo heh Aug 28 20:16:16 yea, recovery is not really an issue Aug 28 20:16:18 Also, rhcp, my pill for that is adderall :) Aug 28 20:16:21 thats easy Aug 28 20:16:28 rhcp, mind helpin a brotha out? Aug 28 20:16:34 kinda busy atm Aug 28 20:16:37 got a buddy over Aug 28 20:16:43 aight, makes sense Aug 28 20:17:04 can you quickly say if i need to compile it myself and do i install with novacom boot mem? Aug 28 20:17:29 is there anything better than adderall? Aug 28 20:17:44 Gimpeh, not having ADHD? Aug 28 20:17:49 lol Aug 28 20:17:52 I;m fucked Aug 28 20:18:01 Gimpeh: i love my streterra. Aug 28 20:18:15 marijuana Aug 28 20:18:17 Gimpeh: but i need it. lol... Aug 28 20:18:22 adderall is wearing off for me Aug 28 20:18:35 did anybody order a touchpad from expansys-usa? Aug 28 20:18:57 its keeley hazell Aug 28 20:19:31 Gimpeh, I took one today, but I don't want to take another, because I will be lifeless tonight with my friends :\ Aug 28 20:19:40 prash keeley hazell is NOT as hot as blake lively, sorry. Aug 28 20:20:00 I dont like blondes, I'll disagree with both :) Aug 28 20:20:47 blake lively doesnt hold a candle to keeley lol Aug 28 20:20:50 btw Aug 28 20:20:56 the links i posted earlier Aug 28 20:21:04 any use to the devs? Aug 28 20:21:09 itd be better if they were different sizes and hair colors they all look the same Aug 28 20:21:09 I need to try something new. My body is use to that stuff now Aug 28 20:21:16 omg.... you have to be kidding about blake, yeah not a bad face, but horrible tah tahs. Aug 28 20:21:48 Im an ass man Aug 28 20:21:51 c0ns0le Aug 28 20:21:52 you telling me you wouldnt hit them? Aug 28 20:21:53 what was that amazon movie where she was a tourist. Aug 28 20:21:54 plastic Aug 28 20:21:59 your an ass, man Aug 28 20:22:00 lol Aug 28 20:22:18 they'd all have penis slap marks on their faces Aug 28 20:22:19 evulhotdog: yessir. Aug 28 20:22:22 And honestly, I'd rather have a girl with a pretty face and slimming body than a girl with a nice pair of tits. Aug 28 20:22:30 At least everyone gets to see her face :P Aug 28 20:22:40 this is whats up Aug 28 20:22:45 in other words a dude Aug 28 20:22:47 come wensday Aug 28 20:22:47 so Aug 28 20:22:58 whats going on with this Aug 28 20:23:01 ill pay 175$ for a 16gb, plus shipping Aug 28 20:23:11 O_O Aug 28 20:23:17 has cyanogenmod taken control? Aug 28 20:23:17 this is i Aug 28 20:23:21 samuel rivera Aug 28 20:23:24 a dev Aug 28 20:23:29 I saw them last tuesday on craigslist and ebay for like $150 Aug 28 20:23:31 saying if you want to sell a 16gb Aug 28 20:23:33 sell it to me Aug 28 20:23:35 lol Aug 28 20:23:42 and ill pay 75% what is worth Aug 28 20:23:42 noen of them is going on in ebay for 150 Aug 28 20:23:53 mputtr, not "is" anymore Aug 28 20:23:56 i saw a couple Aug 28 20:24:01 go for around 150 plus shipping Aug 28 20:24:08 and ther were some on CL in my area go for $150 Aug 28 20:24:11 they're atleast 200 (with $20 shiping) and mostly around 230 Aug 28 20:24:17 $200 for 32GB (there were a few more of these) Aug 28 20:24:18 i'm referring to ebay Aug 28 20:24:19 nowdays they are Aug 28 20:24:40 uh, Aug 28 20:24:40 Serious lack of dev talk atm xD Aug 28 20:24:46 go check ebay. Aug 28 20:24:46 i've got one on ebay rigth now, for less than that. Aug 28 20:24:49 but it's on ebay. Aug 28 20:24:50 lol Aug 28 20:25:02 http://www.uplinq.com/sites/default/files/images/Snapdragon-Lab-Creating-Custom-Drivers.pdf Aug 28 20:25:02 and 1 bid, 11 watchers, 64views. current bid 160.01 Aug 28 20:25:21 https://www.codeaurora.org/xwiki/bin/QAEP/ Aug 28 20:25:22 c0ns0le then cancel it Aug 28 20:25:38 evulhotdog: it's the only one i'm selling for a profit. Aug 28 20:25:40 err 2nd one. Aug 28 20:25:41 sorry. Aug 28 20:25:46 o.o Aug 28 20:25:47 already have a bid. Aug 28 20:26:08 figure someones got a bid sniper on it. Aug 28 20:26:40 you should be getting atleast 220 on average Aug 28 20:26:53 enough about the buying and selling of the thing, wheres the dev talk? Aug 28 20:26:57 mputtr: ebay was saying 293. Aug 28 20:27:04 zondajag: people gave up Aug 28 20:27:06 my bad, heading to touchpad instead :) Aug 28 20:27:23 They are selling them here in Okc now for $185 Aug 28 20:27:42 Flatspin: i'd do that too considering one of the droidpads came from there. Aug 28 20:27:47 hell thast like a lottery. Aug 28 20:28:33 any dev talk? Aug 28 20:29:20 I'm still trying to get the above kernel to give me a freaking image. Aug 28 20:29:47 c0ns0le, I not likely to be an android one though. Aug 28 20:29:56 on craigslist theres WTB HP touchpad 16gb $200 Aug 28 20:29:59 lol Aug 28 20:30:09 I got mine from I believe the same BB that the guy that's helping us got his and mine is normal... sadly... Aug 28 20:30:15 and like four for sale for $220 Aug 28 20:30:41 the fuck... Aug 28 20:30:48 you just have to push the right buttons on any touchpad Aug 28 20:30:54 and it'll boot into android Aug 28 20:31:20 i can confirm what Dawson- says is true Aug 28 20:31:23 Dang it, Dawson has discovered the secret.. Aug 28 20:31:33 I've been gone for like 4 hours and you guys aren't done yet? geesh. Aug 28 20:31:36 just have to push the right buttons on your laptop to hack into the DOD and start a nuclear holocaust Aug 28 20:31:58 Want to play a game? Aug 28 20:32:06 did anyone check that Aug 28 20:32:21 if perhaps every touchpad has the android code sitting in it Aug 28 20:32:22 dormant Aug 28 20:32:49 using up space? Aug 28 20:32:56 ya Aug 28 20:33:55 LOL Aug 28 20:33:58 That woyuld be hilarious Aug 28 20:35:30 Anyone know the build command to issue after "make" to get the above kernel to produce a suitable image? Aug 28 20:35:31 theoretically it could be true. Android would only have to take up about 150MB of space, and could easily be hidden. But that's just a pipe dream Aug 28 20:35:52 Flatspin, you have to do something with mkimg Aug 28 20:36:01 to get an initrd into it and in uImage format Aug 28 20:36:17 you mean kminitramfs? Aug 28 20:36:20 er. Aug 28 20:36:41 mkinitramfs Aug 28 20:37:17 umm Aug 28 20:37:18 anyone here from the 850 Aug 28 20:37:20 not sure Aug 28 20:37:51 Ok, it's different than how I'm done custom kernels before so... Aug 28 20:38:10 yo Aug 28 20:38:17 no gnag calouts in this channel Aug 28 20:38:19 LOL Aug 28 20:38:21 i kidd Aug 28 20:38:30 Thanks though, gives me something to google. Aug 28 20:39:15 ok Aug 28 20:39:25 im gonna shoot up yo hauzes Aug 28 20:39:26 things seemed to have settled down here Aug 28 20:39:36 spoke too soon Aug 28 20:39:50 sweet, found it in uboot tools Aug 28 20:39:57 any way of hiding the logins and logouts? Aug 28 20:40:02 by the way Aug 28 20:40:03 Installing now Aug 28 20:40:04 https://www.codeaurora.org/xwiki/bin/QAEP/ Aug 28 20:40:14 that any use? Aug 28 20:40:46 its quic's repository right? Aug 28 20:41:09 where they store all their android related stuff Aug 28 20:41:17 even pertaining to this chipset? Aug 28 20:41:21 am i wrong? Aug 28 20:41:50 anyone? Aug 28 20:42:13 zondajag: yeah, we've been digging around there. Aug 28 20:42:21 oh Aug 28 20:42:35 https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B52NEACNrGeqM2UyM2FmOTctNWU0Zi00M2I1LWJiOWYtYzM4MDgzY2Y1Nzk0&hl=en of particular interest Aug 28 20:42:40 I downloaded it and have compiled it. Aug 28 20:43:25 Is Tegra 2 or Q8060 better? :S Aug 28 20:43:46 Q8060 is A8 right? Aug 28 20:44:30 @Flatspin - do you think this source will work properly on the touchpads? Aug 28 20:45:38 evening heartlings Aug 28 20:45:56 Lol, I love seeing the same links posted over and over again :P Aug 28 20:46:03 BatNode, I wish I knew enough to know. I got it to compile but there was no build.img so I couldn't continue with the instructions. Aug 28 20:46:27 Right now I'm trying to get the above kernel that supposedly does work compiled. I'm way behind in this game. Aug 28 20:48:52 Wait...what if we call Qualcomm and ask them nicely if they'll let us have the sources... Aug 28 20:49:39 if you find someone who can ask nicely ;) Aug 28 20:49:57 I'll call them right now Aug 28 20:50:00 http://www.qualcomm.com/info/contact Aug 28 20:50:06 Which number should I call do you think Aug 28 20:50:24 errr you're unlikely to get very far there Aug 28 20:50:38 devs don't answer phones. Aug 28 20:51:02 I'm 100% serious Aug 28 20:51:15 i know you are, that's what boggles my mind Aug 28 20:51:15 I will spend hours on the phone tomorrow to see if I can get us what we need Aug 28 20:51:44 ...What is it that we need exactly Aug 28 20:52:12 *headpalm* Aug 28 20:52:21 Lets start there. What do I need to ask for? Aug 28 20:52:23 Arent all the drivers etc out there anyway in the dragonboard source? Aug 28 20:52:37 And the qualcomm build of android for touchpad source :P Aug 28 20:52:51 So I need to ask them for drivers and the android source for the touchpad Aug 28 20:53:43 I guess so Aug 28 20:53:49 doubt they'd even admit it existed tbh Aug 28 20:54:05 Batnode are you serious? Aug 28 20:54:10 BatNode, mod3st has a point, the hardest part is getting into contact with the people who can supply you with what you want. Aug 28 20:54:21 I'm serious Aug 28 20:54:25 You need to find the name of someone that works there Aug 28 20:54:31 the guy with the qualcomm touchpad should get his lawyer to contact them and request the source Aug 28 20:54:43 talk to services and ask them for their contact information Aug 28 20:54:59 you can't talk to programmers by just calling a number. Aug 28 20:55:05 How many people have these Qualcomm touchpads, is it just a couple, or are there more in the wild? Aug 28 20:55:16 I heard averages of around ~20 Aug 28 20:55:20 Qualcomm is a tech-heavy company, not exactly retail though :p Aug 28 20:55:23 I know. But Kevin Mitnick always started a social engineering attack at the front desk Aug 28 20:55:29 Gotta find out names and numbers Aug 28 20:55:33 then go from there Aug 28 20:55:49 E-mail is probably going to get you further Aug 28 20:55:50 just call and ask for bob in software development Aug 28 20:56:02 Software Development. Excellent Aug 28 20:56:02 hahah Aug 28 20:56:07 If you're in College, ask one your professors whether they know anyone that works in Qualcomm development Aug 28 20:56:31 when i do get my tp ima put it inside this http://9gag.com/gag/221844/ Aug 28 20:56:48 SamCripp, lol Aug 28 20:56:58 btw, is there any need for a Qualcomm provided Android tablet anymore? Aug 28 20:57:06 All the information was already dumped right? Aug 28 20:57:32 Lutradore: would be nice if we could get ahold of someone w/ one yes. Aug 28 20:57:44 http://www.qualcomm.com/qct#contact Aug 28 20:57:55 Lutradore: and have them boot a kernel which doesn't mount everything. Aug 28 20:58:02 http://www.qualcomm.com/info/contact Aug 28 20:58:08 Lutradore: we could then get a dump of EVERYTHING. Aug 28 20:58:11 Honestly I was under the impression that we already had everything we needed. We have a full dump of the android image on the touchpad that shipped with it Aug 28 20:58:12 Those kind of places will never give out direct information Froz3n. Aug 28 20:58:23 They dont want you bothering their developers Aug 28 20:58:32 Lutradore: You'd be surprised Aug 28 20:58:35 You need to network a little bit. If you can find a name, ou'll go far. Aug 28 20:58:47 BatNode: personally, i'd like to be able to get a dd of mmcblk0 Aug 28 20:58:49 i love backpacks from 3rd world countries Aug 28 20:58:53 the entire block device. Aug 28 20:59:13 Put it this way, If I game you all the parts to build a car, it would help if you could see the finished product. Aug 28 20:59:21 C0ns0le - can we get that from the touchpad with android on it? Aug 28 20:59:47 Why doesn't that homie just ship that thing to someone that can do somethingwith it Aug 28 21:00:02 because it's valuable? Aug 28 21:00:11 Well obvi he would get it back Aug 28 21:00:14 He said he would let someone come to him and work on it hough Aug 28 21:00:14 i dunno i'm tempted to leave it in ore capable hands. Aug 28 21:00:29 maybe qualcomm ninjas took him out Aug 28 21:00:35 Haha Aug 28 21:00:35 Where does he live? Aug 28 21:01:11 What happened to the one on eBay Aug 28 21:01:30 Some faggots at Android Central bought one of them, didn't they/ Aug 28 21:01:44 There is one guy at Oklahoma city that has one. Aug 28 21:01:53 The guy lives in College Station Texas Aug 28 21:02:02 No Lutradore, he just bought it in Okc. Aug 28 21:02:05 He lives in Texas Aug 28 21:02:16 I know because I live in Okc and offered to help him. Aug 28 21:02:25 Oh Aug 28 21:02:45 yeah his twitter says he lives in TX also lol Aug 28 21:02:50 No one in Texas offered to help? Aug 28 21:03:11 I can't believe there isn't an dev that lives in Austin that wouldn't mind a little road trip. Aug 28 21:03:12 Lutradore: cough cough, i'm in houston. Aug 28 21:03:24 c0ns0le, even better. Aug 28 21:03:31 PM him and see what he says Aug 28 21:03:39 buh, i'm not a dev... just a lowly flunky ;) Aug 28 21:03:40 WHY YOU NO VISIT HIM? Aug 28 21:03:49 I dont even understand how these entered the wild... Aug 28 21:03:55 Visit him, set up a remote desktop, plug the touchpad in Aug 28 21:04:01 On the android touchpad bootlogo the bootlogo is for this division of qualcomm: http://www.quicinc.com/ Aug 28 21:04:05 well very few real developers are actually on the IRC right now : P Aug 28 21:04:07 try and contact them Aug 28 21:04:13 Good find frozen Aug 28 21:04:52 (858) 587-1121 this is the Qualcomm Innovation Centre's contact no Aug 28 21:04:55 There is a VERY good chance that I'll be driving down to Austin in the next two weeks and could swing by there but it's still way up in the air. Aug 28 21:05:00 Ik theyre open tomorrow Aug 28 21:05:04 if you really want to get in touch with them, and you actually know your shit: Aug 28 21:05:05 And by then, the guys here will probably have it all working Aug 28 21:05:06 https://www.codeaurora.org/xwiki/bin/ Aug 28 21:05:12 devs who committed changes to the repo Aug 28 21:05:26 Or http://www.quicinc.com/contact/ Aug 28 21:05:29 btw is there any merit to the rumor that cyanogen mod group has got a working port? Aug 28 21:05:30 WHO AM I SUPPOSED TO PESTER FOR INFORMATION! SO MANY CONTACT US PAGES Aug 28 21:06:00 rumors are just that until an announcement is made and made available. Aug 28 21:06:08 Call every number and email every email. chances are you will get a response Aug 28 21:06:19 Done. Aug 28 21:06:27 BatNode, Try both the contact form for quic and the devs mod3st linked. Aug 28 21:06:34 what is the rumour about cyanogen team porting it? Why should they care :p Aug 28 21:06:47 Froz3n, Why should they not? Aug 28 21:07:01 The only people sharing progress with us so far is here: http://team-touchdroid.com/wiki/index.php?title=Current_Progress Aug 28 21:07:27 I guess they might own a touchpad or two, not sure - they havent said :p and normally cyanogen etc is very vocal about what device he is working on Aug 28 21:08:05 I think I've heard that he's currently changing jobs also so.. Aug 28 21:09:01 http://pastebin.com/2DEK5s8j Aug 28 21:09:03 How's this Aug 28 21:09:53 Hey guys Aug 28 21:10:01 is it worth buying this tablet? Aug 28 21:10:03 Hey sexy Aug 28 21:10:06 For sure Aug 28 21:10:16 hmm Aug 28 21:10:21 im tempted Aug 28 21:10:23 if u can find one lol Aug 28 21:10:24 Android is on it's way Aug 28 21:10:33 for $99 or £89 i'd say its very worth it - but none are left tbh xD Aug 28 21:10:34 ut please. Go to #Touchpad to discuss this Aug 28 21:10:36 ask your parents Aug 28 21:10:41 Yeah, that's what's really driving me to buy one, the fact that it can have android Aug 28 21:10:54 On Topic: I'm going to send this email: http://pastebin.com/2DEK5s8j Aug 28 21:10:57 (mike, the time of asking my parents has long gone :P) Aug 28 21:11:04 Hmm, I wonder about MeeGoi Aug 28 21:11:14 BatNode: looks like someone has already sent a request to their forums. asking for hel . Aug 28 21:11:16 but asking strangers on the internet is not? Aug 28 21:11:17 cstang Aug 28 21:11:18 a Aug 28 21:11:31 in fact, i think cstanga was part of cm isn't he? Aug 28 21:11:43 booboonathan - this is for developer chat. Please join #Touchpad for general chat about the HP TouchPad Aug 28 21:11:59 mah bad! Aug 28 21:12:07 try calling tomorrow as well BatNode, who knows, they may actually be helpful Aug 28 21:12:13 but how's the progress on the android? Aug 28 21:12:22 presuming they dont have an indian callcenter and it actually rings someone in the building Aug 28 21:12:26 booboonathan, Hnnnngg, read topic Aug 28 21:12:29 http://team-touchdroid.com/wiki/index.php?title=Current_Progress Aug 28 21:12:30 LOL It's a direct number to an office Aug 28 21:12:34 Bat: I would suggest clarifying that their boot logo models were shipped with Android. Aug 28 21:12:38 https://www.codeaurora.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=69 Aug 28 21:12:44 Frozen - what do I need to ask them for> general help? Source code? Aug 28 21:12:53 BatNode, I'm guessing that the android touchpad was put in best buy on purpose, and whoever did it already knows of the touchdroid project Aug 28 21:12:53 dunno if thats a repeat post, if so appologies. Aug 28 21:13:14 No it wasn't, they are just selling every single one of them - even demo units etc Aug 28 21:13:18 heh on the sidebar of the forum: Most users ever online was 5 on Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:52 pm Aug 28 21:13:34 Hey, if the TouchDroid team is looking for some help, I'd like to provide... Aug 28 21:13:35 which forum? Aug 28 21:13:38 mod3st pointless to post there obv Aug 28 21:13:40 batnode the topic is open chat Aug 28 21:13:45 code aurora Aug 28 21:13:56 Though I have no idea who to talk to. :P Aug 28 21:14:00 QUIC better watch out tomorrow Aug 28 21:14:03 Who should MZXGiant contact to help on the project ??? Aug 28 21:14:19 hej guys..... one question here..... what do you think about that: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1K24KdGNLhaTICV1LXSRLdA8GyyrKAP31uj_LrKU8OG0/edit?hl=en_US&pli=1 Aug 28 21:15:27 Guys if you're calling please be respectful and polite : D Aug 28 21:15:41 Wait...what? Aug 28 21:15:54 If it matters/helps, I have the 16GB touchpad, currently waiting on the wireless keyboard and touchstone dock from Amazon; I plan on seeing those in about a week. Aug 28 21:15:57 Why would we be calling you? Aug 28 21:15:59 Lutradore why wouldnt we suck their dicks? Aug 28 21:16:13 BatNode hes saying QUIC you tard Aug 28 21:16:24 now is the right time to call, batnode, it's sunday, all the devs will be sitting in their offices waiting by the phones Aug 28 21:16:36 hrhr Aug 28 21:16:40 +1 mod3st Aug 28 21:16:44 No one answered. Said to call back tomorrow Aug 28 21:17:05 ro.build.user=TecKnight ro.build.host=BlackWidow ro.build.tags=test-keys ro.product.model=Touchpad ro.product.brand=qcom ro.product.name=HP Touchpad Aug 28 21:18:15 Someone with the codename TecKnight at qualcomm built the source it seems, interesting that the dragonboard device is identified with the build.prop product name of HP Touchpad xD Aug 28 21:18:32 no Aug 28 21:18:43 TecKnight hung out here earlier Aug 28 21:18:48 WHAAAT? Aug 28 21:18:51 TecKnight was in here earlier, he build that GB source last night Aug 28 21:18:57 lol Aug 28 21:18:57 ah so he modified the build.prop? :S Aug 28 21:18:57 and anybody can change a few props and build from the qcom repo Aug 28 21:18:59 Well, I'm going to lurk around here. If someone can throw me some info as to where to start, or needs more info from me, or something, I'll be around. Aug 28 21:19:07 no big deal Aug 28 21:19:12 MZXGiant: contact SamCripp i guess he wants to buy one Aug 28 21:19:24 hmm okay I just presumed he wouldnt edit the build.prop xD Aug 28 21:19:40 Must. Cybertag. everything : D Aug 28 21:19:40 Well I meant more, I have one, and have a background in Computer Science and Networks Aug 28 21:19:47 Able to boot CWM Recovery with working adb and sound? [Done, thanks to jonpry/tmzt_] <-- well damn Aug 28 21:19:51 and would like to help with the port >.> Aug 28 21:19:52 =P Aug 28 21:19:53 oh ok Aug 28 21:19:59 progress is being made ^_^ Aug 28 21:20:12 Who are the core developers for Touchdroid right now? Aug 28 21:20:29 yeah the ADB seems llike a big win Aug 28 21:20:46 Lutradore: Jesus and the 12 disciples Aug 28 21:21:29 it's a bang up team Aug 28 21:21:46 I'm sure it is. I just wanted to know how it was organized Aug 28 21:22:05 meh... desciples have no superpowers. Aug 28 21:22:07 clearly no one serious is using this channel because of the noise Aug 28 21:22:24 yep. this channel is pointless : D Aug 28 21:22:55 idk im liking webOs more and more Aug 28 21:23:10 i really don't see a reason for android except the lack of apps Aug 28 21:23:11 if all your seeking is updates that may be true Aug 28 21:23:48 I <3 WebOS as well. Aug 28 21:23:52 It seems like a fairly open system Aug 28 21:23:59 it is Aug 28 21:24:03 It has no damn IMEs I can use though.... Aug 28 21:24:09 and I need one for my mother to use Aug 28 21:24:20 I want a good RDP app, torrent app, and I'd be set Aug 28 21:24:27 Android has those ;-) Aug 28 21:24:40 What torrent app is decent on android Aug 28 21:24:45 adownloader? Aug 28 21:24:48 Usenet app Aug 28 21:24:56 I just want netflix. if they had that for WebOS, I'd love it. natively, no PlayOn stuff Aug 28 21:25:06 projects like these are fascinating, though -- how quickly the community moves and how many people are interested and involved.  it's like a giant swarm Aug 28 21:25:08 is there any Usenet apps Aug 28 21:25:43 I really hope HP keeps WebOS alive. Aug 28 21:25:51 I might stick with it even with an Android port Aug 28 21:25:52 yeah…on printers Aug 28 21:26:07 assuming everyone's interest in running android was piqued when HP announced the discounts, we're on Day 9 right now Aug 28 21:26:16 ttorrent, swarm Aug 28 21:26:27 dual boot or android player would be ideal but only time will rell Aug 28 21:26:37 well. Aug 28 21:26:51 It took 9 days to get any real progress done. Aug 28 21:26:59 And the first couple of days, it was impossible to get a Touchpad. Aug 28 21:27:05 I still can't believe known Aug 28 21:27:26 so I figure it's more like 3-5 days of actual development time Aug 28 21:27:37 believe I own one of these things I wanted one and never thought I could affixed it Aug 28 21:27:43 yup.  9 days is still impressive.  geohot's iphone jailbreak took months if i recall Aug 28 21:27:54 afford* Aug 28 21:27:59 I hope there is another, secret, hardcore dev channel Aug 28 21:28:01 mod3st as compared to what? Aug 28 21:28:02 yeah, it's not even REALLY 9 days so yeah. Aug 28 21:28:18 Im sure there is Frozen. Aug 28 21:28:23 Two many people to manage on this channel Aug 28 21:28:27 too* Aug 28 21:28:42 Lutradore: honestly hp should opensource webos would benefit them too but I honestly don't see it happening Aug 28 21:28:51 the devs switch channels approximately every 2.5 hours Aug 28 21:29:00 webos is fucking slow as hell, pisses me off. Aug 28 21:29:03 evulhotdog: compared to iphone jb, which is admittedly an apples and oranges comparison Aug 28 21:29:17 yeah Aug 28 21:29:21 its not really comparable Aug 28 21:29:28 with the ammount of resources we have allocated haha Aug 28 21:29:34 no its completely different Aug 28 21:29:36 really? I think WebOS is pretty quick Aug 28 21:29:40 and well, HP didn't lock down the device Aug 28 21:29:47 ios devices aren't opensource or locked down Aug 28 21:29:58 + HP embraces Homebrewing. Aug 28 21:29:59 well thats it. i bricked it Aug 28 21:30:02 hp is quite open, you can root without having to find a exploit to root Aug 28 21:30:02 when offtopic is low devs would talk more here. and then when they get stuck, someone could bring in an idea to help progress. Aug 28 21:30:13 what did you do jonpry? Aug 28 21:30:27 i made it into a paper weight Aug 28 21:30:34 yes but what did you do :P Aug 28 21:30:44 fucked with bootie or what? Aug 28 21:30:48 rz950! Aug 28 21:30:50 are you a developer or just a random @jon? sorry, but I dont know who is who here Aug 28 21:30:58 Run Webosdoctor if you're just a random Aug 28 21:31:02 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mmcblk0p6 Aug 28 21:31:08 jonpry is the adb dude Lutradore Aug 28 21:31:08 rz950: http://team-touchdroid.com/wiki/index.php?title=Current_Progress not a random ;) Aug 28 21:31:08 oog Aug 28 21:31:12 Oh snap Aug 28 21:31:13 sorry Aug 28 21:31:15 : O Aug 28 21:31:15 well got adb working on the tablet Aug 28 21:31:24 that'd do it, jonpry =/ Aug 28 21:31:26 you got the ADB working. fuuuuuuuuck Aug 28 21:31:43 nice shot Aug 28 21:32:24 protekk Aug 28 21:32:29 ppl dont have op and voice without a reason here :) Aug 28 21:32:34 did you save your technics? Aug 28 21:32:48 nope Aug 28 21:32:52 destroyed Aug 28 21:32:53 :( Aug 28 21:33:02 wtf? Aug 28 21:33:04 jonpry; I'm looking for an "in" to help out coding/testing/gettingcoffee or something for the project. Any chance you could help me out? :P Aug 28 21:33:08 what was happend ProTekk? Aug 28 21:33:24 sirana: irene's fault Aug 28 21:33:27 house flooded from the hurricane Aug 28 21:33:28 sirana: floox Aug 28 21:33:32 flood* Aug 28 21:33:34 oh fuck Aug 28 21:33:37 i need another TP Aug 28 21:33:54 jonpry: Why? Yours bricked? Aug 28 21:33:54 @jonpry I'll sacrifice mine Aug 28 21:33:57 got the pumps running rain stopped for now Aug 28 21:33:59 does it not even turn on? :S Aug 28 21:34:03 called ServPro so waiting on them to call back Aug 28 21:34:05 yep serious brick Aug 28 21:34:14 Oh I thought you needed it for testing lol Aug 28 21:34:17 sump pumps burnt out Aug 28 21:34:46 shit Aug 28 21:34:48 all started because i found out that if you copy 6.img from the rip onto p6 it puts the devices into full usb disk mode. all partitions Aug 28 21:35:30 i figured that was because 6 was invalid. so i just zonked it to get into usb disk mode. don't do that Aug 28 21:35:47 why people want to put android and not a real linux ? Aug 28 21:35:57 ... Aug 28 21:36:02 ddurieux_all; I'm already running ubuntu on it Aug 28 21:36:06 It's possible if one so chooses Aug 28 21:36:15 MZXGiant native ubuntu? Aug 28 21:36:18 MZXGiant: real ubuntu ou ubuntuchroot ? Aug 28 21:36:25 ubuntuchroot, admittedly :P Aug 28 21:36:27 no one knows what native means I swear Aug 28 21:36:41 ubuntuchroot is not nice Aug 28 21:36:42 ddurieux_all: android has some touchscreen support :) Aug 28 21:36:42 the chroot *is* native Aug 28 21:36:43 great, so the main dev basically now has nothing to work with :S Aug 28 21:36:48 I had some issues setting up the ext3 partition :[ I'll give it another wack later Aug 28 21:36:49 with keyboard always here, etc... Aug 28 21:36:51 what do people make of the references to Ubuntu on the bootloader screen of the android touchpads? Aug 28 21:37:31 native means it's coded for arm, all the binaries are arm, not emulated. For instance, wine is not native, software running in a virtual machine is not native... Aug 28 21:37:52 a chroot wouldn't work if it wasn't native arm binaries Aug 28 21:37:58 many soft can be compiled with arm Aug 28 21:38:11 hello guys Aug 28 21:38:14 I have a guruplug Aug 28 21:38:15 good work Aug 28 21:38:27 ddurieux_all; And in that way, it's a matter of getting the app teams from Canonical and all to actually port the stuff over to an ARM package Aug 28 21:38:28 it's arm and I can install many linux software (it's debian) Aug 28 21:38:30 Wow dude the door's cracking Aug 28 21:38:36 Wind's freakin' powerful Aug 28 21:38:41 MZXGiant, they did Aug 28 21:38:58 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM Aug 28 21:39:00 farchord: no shit Aug 28 21:39:01 Ironsight; I know they did :P Aug 28 21:39:06 I'm running it now Aug 28 21:39:16 ProTekk, I'm in quebec, we're not even in the middle of it yet Aug 28 21:39:18 fagchord: brutal Aug 28 21:39:29 My point was that they did a fraction of the software, not the entire x86/x86_64 repositories :P Aug 28 21:39:56 Why not try to put ubuntu 1104, Unity is for pad no ? Aug 28 21:40:01 what can you do @jonpry? :S You have made the most progress so far! Aug 28 21:40:04 fagchord: oh no your door is cracking Aug 28 21:40:09 intense Aug 28 21:40:56 s/is for/optimized/ Aug 28 21:41:00 Froz3n, i think nothing Aug 28 21:41:23 So you gotta stop developing? :S Aug 28 21:41:25 fagchord: did you do any dev work yet? or just suckin everyones dick to be "part of the team" in "other ways" Aug 28 21:41:37 ddurieux_all: unity is not bad at touch devices. but android is kinda more optimized Aug 28 21:41:47 Dawson-: chillax brother Aug 28 21:41:48 (with apps and stuff) Aug 28 21:42:00 The arm team at ubuntu probably just needs more software maintainers Aug 28 21:42:11 ya brah Aug 28 21:42:14 most of their maintainers just do the x86 side Aug 28 21:42:14 k1l: of course but we can install software we want with ubuntu Aug 28 21:42:24 like libreoffice, vnc, et... Aug 28 21:42:42 you can setup a build enviroment I'm sure, and compile your own software Aug 28 21:43:05 Ok, I give up for the day... Aug 28 21:43:23 One thing though has me smiling.. Aug 28 21:43:26 jonpry: have you tried webos dr? Aug 28 21:43:37 way beyond the doctor Aug 28 21:43:42 fscker, don't make the same mistake I did lol Aug 28 21:43:43 dr can't fix shit Aug 28 21:43:55 oh Aug 28 21:43:56 ok Aug 28 21:43:56 The one lady at Best Buy who swore that she was going to go home that evening and install Android on it. Wouldn't listen to me.. Aug 28 21:43:58 wasnt it: when partition <14 is broken webdr. cant help? Aug 28 21:43:58 Jon, didnt touchdroid take donations initially? Aug 28 21:44:13 Flatspin, tell her "Have fun!" Aug 28 21:44:15 :) Aug 28 21:44:26 Lutradore, i think they got some Aug 28 21:44:42 I did.. I wanted to tell her "and this is why I don't come to Best Buy for technical things.." Aug 28 21:44:47 Is there no way to use those funds to get you another Touchpad? Or if it's out, run another donation drive? Aug 28 21:44:48 But I was nice.. Aug 28 21:45:09 ' Aug 28 21:45:10 * mputtr is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 15 minutes Aug 28 21:45:14 Guys Aug 28 21:45:18 Touchdroid is NOT taking donations Aug 28 21:45:24 that is 1000% certain. Aug 28 21:45:25 any way to fix it at all? is there no hardware method like with the galaxy s where you can force it into bootloader mode? Aug 28 21:45:29 with a jig thing Aug 28 21:45:42 its in some kind of bootloader mode Aug 28 21:45:49 oh ok farchord. Aug 28 21:45:54 sorry for the confusion Aug 28 21:45:55 but we have no way to flash with it Aug 28 21:46:10 hmm Aug 28 21:46:28 doesnt webos doctor use the bootloader? Aug 28 21:46:30 I know you said the dr didn't work but what DOES it do? Aug 28 21:46:34 proprietary or some webOS version of fastboot? Aug 28 21:46:45 doctor doesn't recognize it at all Aug 28 21:46:53 adb? Aug 28 21:47:09 its this thing called QDL mode Aug 28 21:47:10 think he's way past adb hahaha Aug 28 21:47:13 jonpry, Fastboot? Aug 28 21:47:25 mod3st: i think so :P Aug 28 21:47:32 sooo Aug 28 21:47:39 no. normally you could flash it with QPST, but there is no version that will work with APQ8060 Aug 28 21:47:41 can anybody give me a good recap of where we stand Aug 28 21:47:42 : / , guys why are you questioning jonpry... I'm fairly certain he'd know if it's completely bricked. Aug 28 21:48:04 xXxMoldyxXx, read the channel title Aug 28 21:48:11 http://team-touchdroid.com/wiki/index.php?title=Current_Progress Aug 28 21:48:13 http://forums.precentral.net/hp-touchpad/288788-how-get-my-touchpad-out-recovery-mode.html Aug 28 21:48:21 jonpry: any thoughts from rwhitby on your situation? Aug 28 21:48:30 Someone with that many X's in his name does not deserve a reply Aug 28 21:48:59 someone with a 3 for an e doesnt deserve anything Aug 28 21:49:02 all kid shit aside Aug 28 21:49:04 dual boot would be golden... Aug 28 21:49:28 xXxMoldyxXx: stop the hate Aug 28 21:49:35 Tomorrow I shall make my greatest contribution yet! I shallspend all my time calling the USA and trying to social engineer us what we need Aug 28 21:49:37 just a joke Aug 28 21:49:39 the only hope is revskills.de Aug 28 21:49:41 ;] Aug 28 21:49:53 i can help test if anybody gives me a place to start Aug 28 21:49:56 What is the point of dual boot? If android is working why keep webos? Aug 28 21:50:02 if it turns on, there is still hope :p Aug 28 21:50:09 cause webos isn't totally useless? Aug 28 21:50:12 xXxMoldyxXx, trust me, we're all waiting to test :) Aug 28 21:50:20 personal preference Aug 28 21:50:21 * mputtr is no longer away : Gone for 20 minutes 10 seconds Aug 28 21:50:22 some people like webos Aug 28 21:50:26 some people like webos but also want android Aug 28 21:50:30 ^ Aug 28 21:50:30 I <3 webOS Aug 28 21:50:36 Webos is an amazing OS, but lacks choice. Android provides that. Aug 28 21:50:39 but the fact is, it doesnt have apps or an IME that I need Aug 28 21:50:41 ^.^ Aug 28 21:50:41 some, like me, just want android, but it doesn't mean i should have the dev do android only ;) Aug 28 21:50:45 Yes but both OS's can do roughly the same things Aug 28 21:50:47 adb with audio?! they have to be getting close Aug 28 21:50:53 and some people just want to mess with their device xD Aug 28 21:50:57 cwm Aug 28 21:50:58 paranoidgabe: not some things Aug 28 21:50:58 give me an IME and I'll stick with WebOS tbh Aug 28 21:51:12 maybe ice cream sammich will have some kind of nicer desktop dealio like webos Aug 28 21:51:14 I dunno, I have a gingerbread tablet, and I don't think I could go backto the 2.x line of android after tasting it :) Aug 28 21:51:15 paranoidgabe, true. But take an android device, and compare the amount of apps on both OS's stores. Aug 28 21:51:16 What can webos do that android cant? Aug 28 21:51:22 except the guy that broke the ADB just bricked his only touchpad Moldy : P Aug 28 21:51:37 hmm, can we see flash natively using a browser on android? Aug 28 21:51:42 lutradore - fuckk Aug 28 21:51:49 webos is, imo, funner to play with Aug 28 21:51:50 On Honeycomb we can :) Aug 28 21:51:53 Logoboy, I believe so yes Aug 28 21:51:56 No, I know that android has more apps... I'm saying why keep webos? Aug 28 21:51:58 task manager without needing a task manager Aug 28 21:52:02 who bricked their ipad? Aug 28 21:52:06 Just a question Aug 28 21:52:06 I think webos is a bit bloated Aug 28 21:52:12 is there anyway to run and emulator of android through a web browser? Aug 28 21:52:18 the question is why NOT keep webOS? Aug 28 21:52:19 Can't we just write a wrapper for Android apps to run on WebOS? Aug 28 21:52:22 i man touchpad lmao Aug 28 21:52:30 what's wrong with it? It does multi-tasking way better than android imo Aug 28 21:52:32 jonpry: is QDL mode similar to a low-level DFU mode? and QPST is necessary to reimage the device over COM? Aug 28 21:52:36 It'll be a lot easier than trying to port Android Aug 28 21:52:50 webos browser and general opening of apps etc is much slower than android Aug 28 21:52:53 JamesHenberg, you are onto something Aug 28 21:52:55 people really dig on the multitaksing/ app flipping thing. I think htat's the only thing webos has going for it, but it's a biggy Aug 28 21:52:56 Easier to port android than to emulate android apps in webos Aug 28 21:52:56 AFAIK Android and WebOS have similar APIs Aug 28 21:53:04 something similar was done to ubuntu a while back Aug 28 21:53:27 mod3st, i think its worse than DFU Aug 28 21:53:45 webOS just feels better, if it had as many apps as other tablets, I wouldn't want Android. Aug 28 21:53:56 android is way better imho Aug 28 21:53:56 2nd that Aug 28 21:53:59 its some stupid serial port. the dell streak has some tools for it. QDLTool Aug 28 21:54:11 i dont' really care for honeycomb tho Aug 28 21:54:12 Eh, to each his own. I prefer android Aug 28 21:54:27 i think cyanogenmod would have a wayyy better system if source was release Aug 28 21:54:35 for honeycomb Aug 28 21:54:45 Gingerbread is not really meant for tablets, honeycomb is. Aug 28 21:55:00 gingerbread is better imo Aug 28 21:55:00 still prefer the option to dual boot... Aug 28 21:55:04 * Ironsight got his names wrong, it has honeycomb Aug 28 21:55:05 Why? Aug 28 21:55:07 I will take whatever we can get Aug 28 21:55:17 android > all Aug 28 21:55:18 the samsung galaxy tab 10.1 Aug 28 21:55:19 :) Aug 28 21:55:24 Fuck Samsung Aug 28 21:55:31 Gingerbread is good for phones, but for larger screens it wastes real estate Aug 28 21:55:33 They need to stop ripping off iPhones and iPads Aug 28 21:55:35 Samsung <3 :P Aug 28 21:55:36 so, how goes the port so far? captains got it any farther that fixing video and touchscreen? Aug 28 21:55:39 i dont' really care for how the homescreens are set up in HC Aug 28 21:55:49 Craptain got his ts working Aug 28 21:55:52 I love that sammy Aug 28 21:55:54 :) Aug 28 21:55:54 really? Aug 28 21:55:55 how? Aug 28 21:55:58 his ts? Aug 28 21:56:07 touch screen Aug 28 21:56:08 ... Aug 28 21:56:09 trans-sexual Aug 28 21:56:11 on what? Aug 28 21:56:12 rofl Aug 28 21:56:21 hes booted to android? :O Aug 28 21:56:40 * BatNode wonders what the christ he could be doing with a working touch screen in a room devoted to porting android to the touchpad Aug 28 21:56:52 jonpry: I'm finding references to QPST in CodeAurora's git commits for their "linux base enablement project" which supports their newer chipsets, but only code for the device side Aug 28 21:57:29 presumably there is a QPST out there that would work, but no leaks yet Aug 28 21:57:38 who is CodeAurora? :S Aug 28 21:57:45 /what Aug 28 21:57:50 If we get a full dump of a touchpad already running Android, couldn't we just dd that onto the touchpad? Aug 28 21:57:51 They did the commits to the android build Aug 28 21:57:53 didn't they Aug 28 21:58:00 ~ qualcomm's open source initiative for oems Aug 28 21:58:07 ah ok :p Aug 28 21:58:13 a dd is not a rom Aug 28 21:58:18 so are they aware of the port then? Aug 28 21:58:35 well, this port specifically Aug 28 21:58:40 JamesHenberg, Technically, yes, but 1- You have a decent chance of bricking the device, and 2- What happens for upgrades....? Aug 28 21:58:48 It's better they just come up with their own. Aug 28 21:58:50 ^ Aug 28 21:58:58 Why would it brick the device? Aug 28 21:59:17 @jonpry: have you tried using QDLtool? Seems like the Dell Streak users have unbricked using it, if you are in QDL mode. http://tinyurl.com/3u2lpoq Aug 28 21:59:29 couldn't we just take the .jar file for dd and modify it with android.. Aug 28 21:59:30 Froz3n: they already have froyo/gingerbread running on very similar hardware, with public source.  doesn't help us *install* it on the touchpad though. Aug 28 21:59:30 ? Aug 28 21:59:49 has anyone had any issues with the touchpad after OCing it to 1.7 using the new kernels? Like it not turning back on/freezing and/or bricking? Aug 28 21:59:59 Copying over the dump to your device is not generally done. It can cause a lot of unforeseen issues. Aug 28 22:00:19 There's really no risk though Aug 28 22:00:34 o Aug 28 22:00:44 Cuz the processor can boot from a USB Aug 28 22:01:09 "the processor can boot from a USB" qotd Aug 28 22:01:13 lool Aug 28 22:01:13 ;) Aug 28 22:01:18 lol Aug 28 22:01:21 sweet. gotta debug now huh?niiice. hope it gets done soon. I've been watching eagerly just waiting. Aug 28 22:01:21 Hi there :) Aug 28 22:01:58 guys Aug 28 22:02:06 can I uninstall a kernel once it has OC'd a tp? Aug 28 22:02:10 without any issues Aug 28 22:02:17 Yes Aug 28 22:02:20 ok Aug 28 22:02:23 I wish I knew ANYTHING about how android works so I could help Aug 28 22:02:45 @logoboy - Just remove it in preware Aug 28 22:02:48 just read... Aug 28 22:03:18 So, for the people who have a touchpad with Android, do the drivers work? Aug 28 22:03:44 lnxsrt, yeah i have there stuff but it was written by dell and doesn't want to work Aug 28 22:03:58 anyone know if ad-hoc works? Aug 28 22:04:13 @jonpry, so you got ADB working, but now the unit is bricked? Aug 28 22:04:22 I mean CWM .. not ADB Aug 28 22:05:10 yeah he needs a new device, or some recovery software that isn't public.  you should pitch in ;) Aug 28 22:05:34 Zaphod-Beeble, yes thats the deal Aug 28 22:05:44 jonpry how did it brick? Aug 28 22:05:49 would love to help :) Aug 28 22:06:07 xXxMoldyxXx, what do you mean how? how did i do it? Aug 28 22:07:12 y3eah if CWM was running... what did you do next that bricked it Aug 28 22:07:57 or did the CWM brick it? Aug 28 22:08:00 jonpry…did ya already call the doctor? Aug 28 22:08:16 all started because i found out that if you copy 6.img from the rip onto p6 it puts the devices into full usb disk mode. all partitions Aug 28 22:09:00 xXxMoldyxXx: he dd`ed to partition6. Aug 28 22:09:27 ohh Aug 28 22:10:14 @jonpry, Not that it helps now - but have you looked at the partition information stored in topaz.xml in webosdr? Aug 28 22:10:24 so adb is running Aug 28 22:10:25 cool Aug 28 22:10:33 yeah Aug 28 22:10:53 good job Aug 28 22:14:30 so you can work around the system on tp? Aug 28 22:14:39 wow its taken me about half an hour to catch up to this convo. Unlucky jonpry, hopefully you will find some way to fix it :( Aug 28 22:14:53 Right now the main problem is that the devs who can get this shit working don't have touchpads Aug 28 22:15:17 jonpry Aug 28 22:15:22 jtag text time Aug 28 22:15:24 o.O Aug 28 22:15:33 I am surprised the guys who have 20 or so touchpads aren't donating a couple. they are much more valuable with android ported to em Aug 28 22:15:37 O.o Aug 28 22:15:42 i would like to make a retraction.... lol.... blake lively is not the person i was thinking of with bad tah tahs.... Aug 28 22:15:45 how do you hide the login logout messages? Aug 28 22:16:02 * farchord is craving for 10 extra bucks.... really doesn't want to cook tonight. Aug 28 22:16:05 don't use webchat Aug 28 22:16:16 * BatNode is getting chinese takeout Aug 28 22:16:25 * BatNode doesn't really know how to cook... Aug 28 22:16:25 * farchord hates BatNode. Aug 28 22:16:27 zondajag: /part Aug 28 22:16:40 I know how to cook Aug 28 22:16:43 * BatNode is really glad he decided to move in with his grandmother while he is in college. her cooking rocks. Aug 28 22:16:44 http://xchat.org/ Aug 28 22:16:48 :) Aug 28 22:16:52 download xchat Aug 28 22:16:57 hide messages in preferences Aug 28 22:17:04 er join/parts Aug 28 22:17:08 w1n Aug 28 22:17:17 looool Aug 28 22:17:19 os[Linux 2.6.38-11-generic x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "natty" 11.04] cpu[4 x AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 800MHz] mem[Physical: 11.8GB, 90.2% free] disk[Total: 682.2GB, 90.0% free] video[ATI Technologies Inc RV770 [Radeon HD 4850]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB1: USB-Audio - USB Device 0x46d:0x8082: USB-Audio - Razer Megalodon3: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI] Aug 28 22:17:26 in_ who are you talking to? Aug 28 22:17:32 kn_ Aug 28 22:18:02 how do you hide the login logout messages? Aug 28 22:18:16 brb rebooting into winblows Aug 28 22:18:21 nevermind =\ Aug 28 22:18:42 Windows > Linux Aug 28 22:18:50 is touchpad use u-boot ? Aug 28 22:18:52 .. Aug 28 22:19:10 * Domingan_TP wants China food... Aug 28 22:19:11 Retarded > Arguement Aug 28 22:19:22 Don't make me justify my position Aug 28 22:19:28 justify it Aug 28 22:20:11 WIndows - Better driver support, better hardware support, better game performance, can actually play games without 1000 different errors, DX10/11 support, not retarded UI, doesn't have to type in giant console commands to work properly Aug 28 22:20:24 BAM Aug 28 22:20:25 ^win Aug 28 22:20:28 Windows being better than another operating system depends on what for, what purpose Aug 28 22:20:35 BatNode: they suck for servers Aug 28 22:20:37 I just got a chance to start digging around, my webos doesn't see the touchpad as having a vga device. has anyone got notes on getting beyond that? Aug 28 22:20:37 sorry buddy. Aug 28 22:20:43 True. I boot in to Backtrack to hack WEP Aug 28 22:20:50 linux is best for complex shiz Aug 28 22:21:10 BatNode: that is an invalid arguement Aug 28 22:21:16 it's all dependent on what you want your system to do, i have a windows system, a mac and a linux server Aug 28 22:21:18 can you take this trolling to another channel? Aug 28 22:21:21 Complex shit that 99% of people don't need to do lol :p but it's very powerful insome resp- how the fuck is it invalid Aug 28 22:21:31 every operating system has their own nitch Aug 28 22:21:44 I like Linux more than Windows Aug 28 22:21:45 niche* Aug 28 22:21:53 windows makes me thousands of dollars per year :) Aug 28 22:22:01 cool i didn't know i needed a spell check today Aug 28 22:22:12 audinutt: Redmond? Aug 28 22:22:16 >Everyday Aug 28 22:22:17 FTFY Aug 28 22:22:23 don't be a grammar nazi please Aug 28 22:22:26 cuz when my computer doesn't do what I want, I can do "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda" Aug 28 22:22:39 mod3st, what's redmond? Aug 28 22:22:49 Microsoft? Aug 28 22:22:53 or "rm -rf *" Aug 28 22:22:54 Probably Aug 28 22:23:04 lol james. Greatest troll command ever Aug 28 22:23:05 BatNode: seeing *nix powered a lot of the internet's infrastructure, you're arguement is invalid Aug 28 22:23:10 powers* Aug 28 22:23:14 *sigh* Aug 28 22:23:18 ok @jonpry any luck with that utility? Aug 28 22:23:21 Hold on a sec. Let me check if servers are desktop computers....nope. Aug 28 22:23:25 rm -rf /* FTW Aug 28 22:23:37 just another trolling round in this channel Aug 28 22:23:41 Linux is awesome Aug 28 22:23:43 yeah. Aug 28 22:23:45 BatNode: OS X support is fine also Aug 28 22:23:48 zondajag, which one? Aug 28 22:23:48 kn_: Correction a NeXT Box powered a lot of the internets earily infrastructure ;) Aug 28 22:23:50 I don't play games so it does everything I need it to do Aug 28 22:23:59 xaios, Web, you mean Aug 28 22:24:10 Ah ya got me Aug 28 22:24:15 the one used to fix the dell slate thing Aug 28 22:24:18 most games are being ported to OS X now. Aug 28 22:24:25 Besides, this channel is hardly the place for an argument about the best operating system. Aug 28 22:24:26 hardware acceleration is on par Aug 28 22:24:33 KN started it Aug 28 22:24:35 I LIKE WEBOS AND ANDROID.  LET'S TALK ABOUT WEBOS AND ANDROID. Aug 28 22:24:38 again invalid arguement Aug 28 22:24:42 yeah topic!!! Aug 28 22:24:43 WebOS > Android Aug 28 22:24:43 * BatNode is going to order his china food now Aug 28 22:24:45 how did i start it? Aug 28 22:24:54 Android needs to get multitasking Aug 28 22:24:55 leave the debates to somewhere else Aug 28 22:24:57 eurghghhghghgg Aug 28 22:24:57 because i mentioned xchat ? Aug 28 22:24:57 OSX Aug 28 22:25:05 WebOS needs more apps...it'd be a great OS then Aug 28 22:25:06 xchat is for windows and linux Aug 28 22:25:17 no one cares who started it, no one cares about your opinion lol Aug 28 22:25:18 I would tend to disagree with that viewpoint Aug 28 22:25:22 Lets not make this a flamewar. kthx Aug 28 22:25:25 webOS is too slow Aug 28 22:25:32 Why is no one else thinking that Webos is far slower than android and IOS? Aug 28 22:25:33 WebOS isn't slow... Aug 28 22:25:39 not having power sucks... hurricane Irene can suck it Aug 28 22:25:39 it is slow as HELL Aug 28 22:25:45 even when overclocked Aug 28 22:25:46 i don't think it's slow @ 1.5ghz Aug 28 22:25:54 All my apps open in 1 second Aug 28 22:25:55 it is far slower than android Aug 28 22:25:56 Lawl Aug 28 22:25:58 someone obviously hasnt used honeycomb or ios... Aug 28 22:26:01 overclocking webOS is smoother than butter Aug 28 22:26:02 I tried zoom yesterday Aug 28 22:26:05 Android is slow as balls Aug 28 22:26:06 xoom Aug 28 22:26:13 it doesnt matter stop talking about irrelevant stuff Aug 28 22:26:17 overclocked* Aug 28 22:26:18 it is much faster than touchpad Aug 28 22:26:18 overclocking did not help for me, webos is so damn slow Aug 28 22:26:20 lol Aug 28 22:26:27 shhh Aug 28 22:26:27 how do you think we all ended up in this channel? Aug 28 22:26:29 So is the drama with that lil kid Trsohmers over yet lol Aug 28 22:26:30 lol Aug 28 22:26:32 cainiao, don't you evah say that HC is faster than the TouchPad, ESPECIALLY the Xoom Aug 28 22:26:44 Froz3n, install the patches, after that, it flies Aug 28 22:26:49 Does anyone notice that the flash memory on the touchpad reads and writes at a max of 5 MB/s? Aug 28 22:26:51 I have smith Aug 28 22:26:52 .... Aug 28 22:26:52 The touchpad hardware is really nice. The speed problem is because WebOS is a bit bloated but WebOS is still in development Aug 28 22:26:55 Made no difference Aug 28 22:26:56 xoom* Aug 28 22:26:58 zoom doesn't exactly go zoom. Aug 28 22:27:07 It took me like 2 hrs to copy over 10 GB of music/video Aug 28 22:27:16 scrolling etc in browser is still a bit jerky, specially zooming etc Aug 28 22:27:16 has anyone got a kernel compilation tools running on the touchpad? Aug 28 22:27:25 I retired it Aug 28 22:27:25 Froz3n: pls dont try to put your opinion into our heads. if its slow for you, ok. but others domt think its slow. their opinion Aug 28 22:27:33 The TP seriously should have had a microSD slot Aug 28 22:27:47 JamesHenberg, the most logical thing to have been said in the last 15 min Aug 28 22:27:48 my touchpad keep correcting my spell.... Aug 28 22:27:48 all tablets should Aug 28 22:27:52 So Aug 28 22:28:01 I guess I just have high standards, but its slower than my android phone which is single core 1 ghz... everything opens instantly and I MEAN instantly on CM7 Aug 28 22:28:08 this doesnt matter guys Aug 28 22:28:23 only issue i have with webos is the browser which is dogshit slow Aug 28 22:28:23 well not in the context of this channel Aug 28 22:28:26 I've found the OS to be plenty responsive after the logging is gone, but the browser and flash are not as good as my phone's cm7. Aug 28 22:28:30 Froz3n, CM7 isn't Android. Aug 28 22:28:42 That's like saying Damn Small Linux is the same thing as Ubuntu Aug 28 22:28:44 topic!!1 Aug 28 22:28:48 I don't understand why they didn't include a microSD slot, unless they're trying to copy the iPad Aug 28 22:28:49 Froz3n: other device. so not relevant here Aug 28 22:28:57 topic! Aug 28 22:29:14 what about it? Aug 28 22:29:16 cainiao, isn't this the "offtopic" irc room? Aug 28 22:29:25 no Aug 28 22:29:26 also, comparing speeds of WebOS to Android IS on topic... Aug 28 22:29:36 what made you think that Aug 28 22:29:41 CM7 is built off android source, hence android Aug 28 22:29:50 just minor improvements Aug 28 22:29:51 not vast Aug 28 22:30:06 The TP uses an APQ8060 which is clocked at 1.5ghz from Quallcom with Adreno 220 gpu, HP underclocked it to 1.2ghz. The hardware is great IMO. Aug 28 22:30:22 good Aug 28 22:30:23 It has better hardware than any tablet currently on the market Aug 28 22:30:36 If only it had better software Aug 28 22:30:45 hardware is great, software not so much unfortunately, but it still uses cortex A8 cores which arent as good as the A9 ones in tegra 2 etc Aug 28 22:30:46 dont anyone comment on that statement Aug 28 22:30:52 software is ok.. just needs apps Aug 28 22:30:53 u guys have the CWM Clockwork working on TP? Aug 28 22:30:59 Froz3n, and Damn Small Linux is an optimized small build of Linux that runs extremely fast. You can't call it Ubuntu because it's an entirely different experience. Aug 28 22:31:15 stop making highly debateable comments Aug 28 22:31:24 Ubuntu is another distro of linux entirely anyway :p Aug 28 22:31:30 Android is a distro of linux Aug 28 22:31:31 xD Aug 28 22:31:35 XD Aug 28 22:31:39 troll is trolling Aug 28 22:31:47 pls ignore him Aug 28 22:31:59 k1l, me? haha Aug 28 22:32:03 XD Aug 28 22:32:12 whatevs Aug 28 22:32:34 Anyways... I like WebOS. I think it's really usable, but android would really make the device interesting :) Aug 28 22:34:10 are the CWM instructions posted to wiki yet? been waiting on that Aug 28 22:34:12 Google really should release the source of Honeycomb Aug 28 22:34:25 So u got ADB working and Clockwork? Aug 28 22:34:29 I thought they supported open source Aug 28 22:34:31 All webos needs is apps and tabs in the browser IMHO... takes too long to open browser cards and switch between them... Aug 28 22:34:52 advanced browser on the hp store has tabs Aug 28 22:35:06 the browser just needs to load pages faster, i like the cards. if we could switch between cards by swiping left and right, the cards wouldn't be an issue Aug 28 22:35:26 Froz3n link? Aug 28 22:35:27 I've also noticed the webos browser doesn't render pages very well. Anyone else having issues? Aug 28 22:35:28 JamesHenberg, more flame-able comments, but the gist of it is that they rushed HC to beat the iPad 2 and it's apparently ugly code. That's why they won't release it and are waiting till ICS Aug 28 22:35:48 paranoidgabe it just takes forever. and switching between cards forces the page to re-render for some reason Aug 28 22:36:01 i noticed that too Aug 28 22:36:01 how can I link it? Just search! :P Aug 28 22:36:05 there are a lot of things webOS needs.. browser search.. is one I am really missing Aug 28 22:36:11 Froz3n boo let me be lazy! Aug 28 22:36:16 why does it render every time? Aug 28 22:36:22 I cant link it! Its on the store Aug 28 22:37:27 I just notice artifacts in pages. Is the webos browser using webkit or something else? Aug 28 22:37:47 Froz3n have you tried it out? Aug 28 22:37:48 No idea, but Android uses WebKet fersure Aug 28 22:38:07 paranoidgabe: webkit Aug 28 22:38:07 …………………..rrrraaaaggggeeeee at how long it takes to dl and build android because of WebKit Aug 28 22:38:11 yeah I got it, its okay, tabs work etc but it isnt recognised as the default browser, not sure how to change that... Aug 28 22:38:26 You know, I was thinking.... if I cook, my appartment's gonna get warmer.... but then again, if it does, I can open the window for like 5 mins and the thing's gonna be cool again Aug 28 22:38:38 lol Aug 28 22:39:05 tonight, I'm gonna open my bedroom window by a little bit.... so I can hear the rain. Is there any better condition for sleeping!? Aug 28 22:39:24 farchord, nope Aug 28 22:39:33 a fan Aug 28 22:39:41 I have one, and it is running Aug 28 22:39:43 farchord, crickets might be slightly better Aug 28 22:39:50 It only rains in the morning here, so I get up to the rain. It makes getting up SO ridiculously hard. Aug 28 22:39:55 Froz3n is it any faster than the stock browser? Aug 28 22:40:05 nodnarb, strange not to me.... crickets remind me of warm weather and I hate that Aug 28 22:40:14 not by a great deal, a little maybe Aug 28 22:40:25 erf lol Aug 28 22:40:37 hmmmm.... anyone decently good at cooking here? Aug 28 22:40:56 week old spaghetti sauce, is it still good? Aug 28 22:40:58 farchord, cooking? Aug 28 22:41:07 has been refigerated Aug 28 22:41:07 lol, cooking or coding Aug 28 22:41:11 yes sam Aug 28 22:41:17 should be okay Aug 28 22:41:22 freezer or fridge? Aug 28 22:41:26 fridge Aug 28 22:41:30 hmmm Aug 28 22:41:34 thats 50/50 Aug 28 22:41:35 I'll smell it Aug 28 22:41:47 brb Aug 28 22:41:48 freezer makes stuff like me :D Aug 28 22:42:13 (frozen ;) ) Aug 28 22:42:47 Smells good Aug 28 22:42:49 I'll risk it. Aug 28 22:43:00 spaghettios! Aug 28 22:43:05 are there any good write ups on the current status of the port? Aug 28 22:43:05 uh-ohs Aug 28 22:43:06 Actually Aug 28 22:43:16 Spaghetti, with parmesan cheese Aug 28 22:43:24 and I actually wish I had garlic bread Aug 28 22:43:40 with a can of coke Aug 28 22:43:44 I like spaghetti Aug 28 22:43:52 Ditto Aug 28 22:43:54 jonpry: since you're SOL right now, would you mind posting rough steps on how you got CWM+ADB on here? specifically building the CWM image and reimaging the recovery partition? Aug 28 22:44:02 Do you pour the coke over the garlic bread? Aug 28 22:44:03 http://team-touchdroid.com/wiki/index.php?title=Current_Progress Aug 28 22:44:09 paranoidgabe, naaaah Aug 28 22:44:13 cocaine and garlic bread? Aug 28 22:44:17 lol Aug 28 22:44:17 sounds like a wet dream to me Aug 28 22:44:25 Anyone ever use Box2D before? Aug 28 22:44:26 no no Coke, the soda, you drug-tards. Aug 28 22:44:32 A physics framework? Aug 28 22:44:34 you mean the pop? Aug 28 22:44:39 ya Aug 28 22:44:41 soda is for fags. Aug 28 22:44:42 =( Aug 28 22:44:49 (i'm assuming that no existing CWM binary image will work here, so we have to compile from source) Aug 28 22:44:52 soda is bad for you :( Aug 28 22:44:54 He said "can of coke"... Do you normally buy cocaine in a can? Aug 28 22:45:08 paranoidgabe i'm sure you could if you're good with your drug dealer Aug 28 22:45:09 you can SMOKE COCAINE IN A CAN. Aug 28 22:45:16 I KNOW THIS BECAUS EIMA HARDCORE DRUGADDICT YA IM AWESOME. Aug 28 22:45:23 lol... Aug 28 22:45:43 btw, food for thoughts: Aug 28 22:45:44 http://www.escoffier.edu/locations/boulder/blog/i-love-poutine-celebrating-french-canadian-cuisine/ Aug 28 22:45:50 French canadian poutine ftw Aug 28 22:46:22 I prefer English Canadian poutine. Aug 28 22:46:38 anyway bbiab, gonna boil the water, and make the noodles Aug 28 22:46:39 Are there different types of poutine? O_O Aug 28 22:46:56 poon tang Aug 28 22:47:03 Tang is gross. Aug 28 22:47:17 whats tang? Aug 28 22:47:27 Fake orange powdered drink Aug 28 22:47:32 chemicals Aug 28 22:47:33 someone's not a child of the 90's... Aug 28 22:47:41 thats tango Aug 28 22:47:43 I'm old. Aug 28 22:47:53 Nope... tang. Aug 28 22:48:09 a us only thing? Aug 28 22:48:29 Brasil has it too... Aug 28 22:49:01 im in the UK so maybe it didnt get over the pond Aug 28 22:49:03 Hi guys hows it going? Aug 28 22:49:13 Talking about tang Aug 28 22:49:22 Tang? Aug 28 22:49:45 Cocaine and cocaine accessories Aug 28 22:49:58 Ah ok Aug 28 22:50:02 lol Aug 28 22:50:14 Tang... you know, the orange powder drink from the late 50's Aug 28 22:50:18 The astronauts drank it. Aug 28 22:50:25 Im English Aug 28 22:50:26 so no Aug 28 22:50:52 Really? I just assume most people know what it is Aug 28 22:51:01 Nope Aug 28 22:51:20 Well, it tastes awful haha Aug 28 22:51:24 Haha Aug 28 22:51:48 hey guise Aug 28 22:51:57 hi Aug 28 22:52:04 Hows stuff coming on touchdroid? Its a bank holiday here, so can do some stuff tomorrow Aug 28 22:52:06 where should i send dorid dump Aug 28 22:52:08 Wow, I'm suprised it took so long for someone to mention astronauts when talking about tang Aug 28 22:52:17 also, Tang is delicious Aug 28 22:52:37 Really? I had it as a kid and hated it Aug 28 22:52:50 I'd rather just drink normal orange juice Aug 28 22:53:06 I'd rather drink what the astronauts drank, lol Aug 28 22:53:11 haha Aug 28 22:53:51 normal orange juice... Like... From an orange? *shudder* Aug 28 22:54:06 Mmmm yeah!! It's delicious Aug 28 22:54:18 Water, you mean, like from a toilet? Aug 28 22:54:42 Mmmmm toilet water Aug 28 22:54:51 Water? Never touch the stuff. Fish fuck in it. Aug 28 22:55:10 Fish fuck in your toilet water? That's odd. Aug 28 22:55:10 uber_mave: droid dump? Aug 28 22:55:13 Please tell me you people have seen Idiocracy! Aug 28 22:55:25 Oh yeah I saw it Aug 28 22:55:28 jmhalder_ yup Aug 28 22:55:33 I was quoting Archer Aug 28 22:57:06 who was the eager one, which was going to reach out to quic Aug 28 22:57:19 c0ns0le: BatNode Aug 28 22:57:36 not sure if he'd be the best public representation though ;) Aug 28 22:57:41 so some interesting things on the codeaurora page... Aug 28 22:57:42 lol Aug 28 22:57:57 some how, not sure how, oh 'document index' Aug 28 22:58:07 you can sort for docs in a respective space. Aug 28 22:58:10 c0ns0le: do share Aug 28 22:58:20 seems there is a 'ninja' lol who does most of the editing. Aug 28 22:58:40 wonder if someone would just reach out to said ninja and ask him how to do it. Aug 28 22:58:57 congrats on the recovery guys! :) Aug 28 22:58:59 who's the dev? Aug 28 23:00:00 i mean, quic isn't really harboring secrets here -- what we need help with is migrating a device with webos and HP's recovery to an android installation, and there's no evidence that they know how to do that Aug 28 23:01:15 does the cm team also have a channel Aug 28 23:02:49 blizz5243: I was wondering the same thing Aug 28 23:03:09 blizz5243, Google is thoust friend. Aug 28 23:03:27 yeah but they dont really say much Aug 28 23:03:45 Poison-X, I'll be blunt. Found the link in 5 minutes. Aug 28 23:04:03 huh? i was talking about the irc channel Aug 28 23:04:18 I know Aug 28 23:04:43 i think he means the channel sits mostly idle, not that google doesn't say much about it Aug 28 23:04:51 how long yall think it will take to have 3.0 on the touchpad? Aug 28 23:04:52 ahh Aug 28 23:05:09 none: 42 minutes 37 seconds Aug 28 23:05:17 will the kernel run ok on my TP if i compile it using the CodeSourcery toolchain? Aug 28 23:05:32 @Poison-X: bahahaha yeaaa right Aug 28 23:05:38 honeycomb will never be open-sourced.  wait for ice cream sandwich. Aug 28 23:06:04 I thought all android os's were open source... Aug 28 23:06:11 negative Aug 28 23:06:24 ahhhh ok Aug 28 23:07:10 so, is the CodeSourcery toolchain ok to compile with? Aug 28 23:07:49 look for the one on the wiki spencerelliott Aug 28 23:08:32 thanks Smith7018 Aug 28 23:08:49 should be the same one, the 2009q1 Aug 28 23:10:28 my biggest annoyance with computers is how difficult it is to set up a cross-compiling env. Aug 28 23:10:50 It's not too hard, but so many things can go wrong, like finding the host's includes and libs Aug 28 23:11:06 My biggest annoyance with computers is they're not simple like a TV Aug 28 23:11:33 at least there are neat packages nowdays like the cs stuff... Aug 28 23:11:47 they can be as simple as you want them to be... most of us dont like it simple Aug 28 23:11:58 i use the codesourcery toolchain to compile the TalonMTD kernel for my captivate so i was curious if it would have worked with the TP kernel but the uboot stuff is a bit different i see now Aug 28 23:12:01 maybe a stupid question.... why do we need 2009ql instead of the normal tools? Aug 28 23:12:05 That would probably deal with the fact that TVs are meant for a singular purpose while computers can do anything from advanced molecular graphs to playing Barbie Horse Showdown Aug 28 23:12:14 http://main.makeuseoflimited.netdna-cdn.com/tech-fun/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/racistcomputers.png Aug 28 23:12:28 AlanJayWeiner, the current one won't compile correctly, it throws assembly errors Aug 28 23:13:05 ah, thanks - I've built gingerbread with it; it runs the emulator - so I was wondering why... Aug 28 23:13:21 Sleazy_Martinez, ahhh Aug 28 23:13:22 lawl Aug 28 23:13:28 =P Aug 28 23:13:49 I'd like to help with the porting wherever I can - I'm long-time (in past...) systems guy, but fairly new to Linux dev Aug 28 23:14:17 http://team-touchdroid.com/wiki/index.php?title=Current_Progress Aug 28 23:14:29 I do all my development in virtual machines; have one set up with the normal tools & gingerbread sources Aug 28 23:14:38 The Android Release available for the APQ8060 is: – Android 2.3.3_r1 (Gingerbread) – Linux Kernel 2.6.35-7 • The Android Source Code Release downloaded from : – http://www.codeaurora.org • Detailed instructions can be found at : – https://www.codeaurora.org/xwiki/bin/QAEP/ • Get Source by using : – $repo init –u git://codeaurora.org/platform/manifest.git –b gingerbread_rel –m M8660AAABQNLYA109002.xml – $ Aug 28 23:14:59 AlanJayWeiner, same, Ubuntu Natty Aug 28 23:17:01 planning to do Linux internals for years; life always interfered... nice to have an excuse to do it for something useful Aug 28 23:17:36 ok so what i understand is that they have most of the android things pinned down except for the initial install process? Aug 28 23:17:51 and jonpry has bricked his device Aug 28 23:18:22 that's unfortunate Aug 28 23:19:10 if he unbricks it somehow then it would provide an additional safety net for those installing android on the touchpad in the future Aug 28 23:19:21 his is stuck in qdl mods Aug 28 23:19:24 mode** Aug 28 23:19:30 or something Aug 28 23:19:52 zondajag, how bricked is it Aug 28 23:19:55 mmmm, tasty spaghetti Aug 28 23:19:56 welcome back sifon187 Aug 28 23:20:29 its stuck in some recovery mode that he cant get it out of Aug 28 23:20:39 That's not really briked then :s Aug 28 23:20:48 apparently it happened to the dell streak Aug 28 23:20:54 doesn't sound good but not bricked Aug 28 23:21:13 there's worse things i could imagine than being stuck in some nature of recovery mode Aug 28 23:21:39 what's "bricked?" Aug 28 23:21:47 is adb active at all ? Aug 28 23:21:51 I'm sure I could help if it's someone's touchpad Aug 28 23:21:58 TecKnight, I have adb running Aug 28 23:22:06 soon we will all be like Weasley Crusher Aug 28 23:22:16 On the looping TP ? Aug 28 23:22:24 looping? Aug 28 23:22:33 Smith7018, think of it like a brick. it's useless Aug 28 23:22:46 k. have a feeling i'm either gullable or is TecKnight the same users name form the build.prop Aug 28 23:22:47 im not sure what happened but he was pretty certain he wasnt going to be able to fix it without additional tools Aug 28 23:22:48 someone was saying bricked, but it sounds more like it is looping Aug 28 23:22:53 I first started hearing it when people were flashing PSPs Aug 28 23:23:04 Sleazy_Martinez, I quit for a sec, I have no idea what's "bricked" Aug 28 23:23:06 Yes I am Aug 28 23:23:09 totally bricked means some hardware-ish need to recover; dead to outside world otherwise Aug 28 23:23:15 one and the same Aug 28 23:23:22 Smith7018, [18:13:35] <> and jonpry has bricked his device Aug 28 23:23:28 ^^ Aug 28 23:23:33 Errr Aug 28 23:23:46 any word on how? Aug 28 23:23:57 what appeared to cause the bricking ? Aug 28 23:24:10 he dd'ed /dev/zero the 6th partition Aug 28 23:24:13 He zero'd the 6th partition I believe... or something with the 6th partition, lol Aug 28 23:24:24 thats it Aug 28 23:24:26 heh Aug 28 23:24:27 what he said Aug 28 23:24:39 and it no longer turns on? Aug 28 23:24:49 stuck in a recovery mode Aug 28 23:24:55 So he wrote zeroes over the image on partition 6 ? Aug 28 23:25:15 That must be the bootloader Aug 28 23:25:18 QDLtool for the Streak works at the screen off 'qualcomm diagnostic' level, there might be some hope. Aug 28 23:25:19 yea, now hes stuck in QDL mode Aug 28 23:25:35 In android recovery mode or webOS recovery mode ? Aug 28 23:25:53 its stuck in qdl mode Aug 28 23:25:57 neither Aug 28 23:26:02 whatever that is Aug 28 23:26:03 so the qualcomm cpu has a failsafe ;) Aug 28 23:26:04 a hardware level diagnostic mode Aug 28 23:26:04 As in recovery mode? Aug 28 23:26:06 if you fidle with partition <14 someone mentioned even webdr. cant help Aug 28 23:26:14 Ahhh Aug 28 23:26:17 apparently qdltool can write to flash Aug 28 23:26:19 all started because i found out that if you copy 6.img from the rip onto p6 it puts the devices into full usb disk mode. all partitions Aug 28 23:26:20 yea, qdl is the lower level Aug 28 23:26:31 i figured that was because 6 was invalid. so i just zonked it to get into usb disk mode. don't do that Aug 28 23:26:43 so, to run the kernel, do i just boot into recovery and run novacom boot mem:// < /path/to/uImage? Aug 28 23:27:28 that uImage ought to be a multi file image containing booth kernel and ramdisk Aug 28 23:28:19 so far Flemmard has gone the furthest Aug 28 23:28:24 -u +a Aug 28 23:28:39 but there are some problems with dynamic binaries Aug 28 23:29:26 How do you know you are in a diagnostic mode? by what USB reports? Aug 28 23:29:38 isn't it possible to dual-boot touchpad with Ubuntu? why not keep dual boot with android? Aug 28 23:29:46 sup guys Aug 28 23:29:55 sorry i was away. went out to eat with wife + friend Aug 28 23:29:59 adb is active on the bricked device ? Aug 28 23:30:06 AlanJayWeiner: no. its chroot not boot ubuntu Aug 28 23:30:08 AlanJayWeiner thats a concern for later Aug 28 23:30:15 so whats new? Aug 28 23:30:22 Bus 001 Device 020: ID 0830:8071 Palm, Inc. <---- bootie Aug 28 23:30:23 ah, ok Aug 28 23:30:27 AlanJayWeiner chroot != dual boot Aug 28 23:30:30 rhcp: jonpry semi-bricked, whee. Aug 28 23:30:32 dunno what qdl reports Aug 28 23:30:39 TellarHK: oh? Aug 28 23:30:47 but bootie saved him? Aug 28 23:30:49 i assume Aug 28 23:30:51 Sohi Aug 28 23:30:54 no Aug 28 23:31:00 he zero'd partition 6 Aug 28 23:31:01 lol Aug 28 23:31:02 Yeah, zeroed P6. It loads a Qualcommn failsafe. Aug 28 23:31:05 rhcp: he zerod partition 6 Aug 28 23:31:13 omg Aug 28 23:31:14 my kernel just panicked…and i can't see the reason cause cause it flooded the clog :( Aug 28 23:31:17 why? :) Aug 28 23:31:21 accident? Aug 28 23:31:22 where did jonpry say this ? In this room ? Aug 28 23:31:28 yup Aug 28 23:31:36 yup to accident? Aug 28 23:31:45 not an accident Aug 28 23:31:49 all started because i found out that if you copy 6.img from the rip onto p6 it puts the devices into full usb disk mode. all partitions Aug 28 23:31:57 i figured that was because 6 was invalid. so i just zonked it to get into usb disk mode. don't do that Aug 28 23:32:05 i know not to Aug 28 23:32:14 i guess he did not get the memo from webos-interals Aug 28 23:32:15 semi-bricked is better than full bricked. Once we discover more about these it should be trivial to fix Aug 28 23:32:17 not ot fuck with 1-13 Aug 28 23:32:18 :) Aug 28 23:32:21 he dd'd the p6 image from the dump, it put it in some USB mode, he thought it was because there was an error... there wasn't obviously, but he zero'd it Aug 28 23:32:28 guys you really need to turn logging on in your irc-clients :) Aug 28 23:32:42 good idea k11 Aug 28 23:32:46 k1l: I have full logging Aug 28 23:32:58 you know of any web-based parsing for irssi logs? Aug 28 23:33:03 my shit doesn't boot android anymore :( Aug 28 23:33:04 i can put it up Aug 28 23:33:05 "W/AudioSystem( 130): AudioPolicyService not published, waiting..." Aug 28 23:33:08 I've been on this channel for ~5+ hours today at walmart, lol Aug 28 23:33:14 lol jmhalder_ Aug 28 23:33:23 I duckd out at around 2 or so Aug 28 23:33:25 friend came over Aug 28 23:33:31 we went out Aug 28 23:33:57 rhcp: there should be some, but im lazy to google while on TP and watching tv :) Aug 28 23:34:18 :) Aug 28 23:34:58 fucking AudioPolicyService Aug 28 23:35:07 so has anyone figured out how to get adb going? Aug 28 23:35:09 100% Aug 28 23:35:09 lol Aug 28 23:35:09 i restored WebOS, charged, and reinstalled android Aug 28 23:35:24 and it doesn't work anymore Aug 28 23:35:39 rhcp, as in install? Aug 28 23:35:46 or reboot recovery? Aug 28 23:35:55 on webos :) Aug 28 23:35:58 like you have Smith7018 Aug 28 23:36:00 in pic Aug 28 23:36:09 lol, I was gonna say, I have it :P Aug 28 23:36:09 nargh…my android init doesn't understand devwait Aug 28 23:36:14 besides you Aug 28 23:36:18 i cant get it working Aug 28 23:36:38 did you change anything in kernel config? Aug 28 23:36:49 * AlanJayWeiner asks - do you mind if I ask a few basic questions - done lots of googling but fairly confused now Aug 28 23:36:59 fucking audio Aug 28 23:36:59 or im wondering if perhaps tmzt_ did Aug 28 23:37:13 fix it and i'll explain full adb fix Aug 28 23:37:18 craptain: well, if we worked togther instead of you alone. we'd prob be booting android and done tbh Aug 28 23:37:28 yeah i killed that mother Aug 28 23:37:29 i had everything Aug 28 23:37:29 just wanted ot get that out Aug 28 23:37:33 rhcp, nah Aug 28 23:37:35 and now i have nothing Aug 28 23:37:41 me too Aug 28 23:37:43 craptain: thats what you get :) Aug 28 23:37:44 from working android to hanging on boot screen Aug 28 23:37:45 Though, if you want, you could try using the kernel I built Aug 28 23:37:48 not TP even :p Aug 28 23:37:49 not to jonpry Aug 28 23:37:53 and the weed is gone Aug 28 23:37:57 we can fix yours i think Aug 28 23:37:58 AlanJayWeiner: go ahead if its android rom related for TP Aug 28 23:37:59 thats the real tradegy Aug 28 23:38:02 *tragedy Aug 28 23:38:04 jonpry: do you even boot? Aug 28 23:38:06 " craptain: and the weed is gone" that's the worst part Aug 28 23:38:06 or to bootie? Aug 28 23:38:08 anything? Aug 28 23:38:15 just rom Aug 28 23:38:21 QHSUSB_DLOAD Aug 28 23:38:33 craptain you had full android running ? Aug 28 23:38:35 how ? Aug 28 23:38:36 yes, it is - I'm trying to follow along with dev efforts; learning toolset sources and jargon all at the same time... Aug 28 23:38:52 i am awesome Aug 28 23:38:55 i built a kernel Aug 28 23:38:56 jonpry: maybe +rwhitby can help you Aug 28 23:38:57 and ran it Aug 28 23:39:04 when hes around Aug 28 23:39:05 so was it just android or dual boot ? Aug 28 23:39:06 touch working, video working, everything Aug 28 23:39:07 im sure he can fix it Aug 28 23:39:16 eh, dual boot is easy Aug 28 23:39:19 craptain: if you would have shared. we'd be done Aug 28 23:39:30 I'd like to back up the Touchpad prior to messing with it all; is there a way to do that with dd and novacom? or ??? Aug 28 23:39:30 dual boot would be great Aug 28 23:39:31 jonpry, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14386994&postcount=14 Aug 28 23:39:41 craptain are you not going to release it then how you did it, if it works :P Aug 28 23:39:51 i hate releasing Aug 28 23:39:59 craptain: then why bother to come here? troll? Aug 28 23:40:01 Craptain, so the sound was working but is now throwing an exception ? Aug 28 23:40:02 seriously Aug 28 23:40:05 craptain, release knowledge? Aug 28 23:40:10 hoard knowledge Aug 28 23:40:14 then troll people Aug 28 23:40:15 craptain, how did you get touch? Aug 28 23:40:18 * kennethpenn *cough* full of shit *cough* Aug 28 23:40:20 i built a kernel Aug 28 23:40:23 Craptain so your just doing it for your own touchpad, no one elses ? Aug 28 23:40:31 yep Aug 28 23:40:33 Ok Aug 28 23:40:35 cool Aug 28 23:40:36 i can trade how to get android dynamically linked libraries to run Aug 28 23:40:40 one touchpad to rule them all Aug 28 23:40:44 Cool Aug 28 23:40:45 If you're not gonna help, then did you just come to brag? …. le sigh Aug 28 23:41:02 i gave you the adb patch last night Aug 28 23:41:03 Post a video of android running on your touchpad then ! :P Aug 28 23:41:11 well i broke it Aug 28 23:41:14 hah Aug 28 23:41:15 xD Aug 28 23:41:16 fucking Audio Aug 28 23:41:17 How ? lol Aug 28 23:41:21 good question Aug 28 23:41:22 jonpry you solved that problem? Aug 28 23:41:26 convenient Aug 28 23:41:28 this same binary used to work Aug 28 23:41:34 there's that whole $2000 bounty but i guess he's wipes his ass with $100s Aug 28 23:41:35 just go backwards , undo what you did and it will work again Aug 28 23:41:38 i posted a pic a while back Aug 28 23:41:42 link? Aug 28 23:41:48 eh, idk where Aug 28 23:41:56 mauimauer, i may know something about it. but it will cost 1. how to get touch screen working or 2. a new touchpad Aug 28 23:42:03 lol troll Aug 28 23:42:04 wait so you got it working and to broke?! Aug 28 23:42:14 * AlanJayWeiner would like to work with someone to at least guide me in the right direction Aug 28 23:42:21 http://imgur.com/L3oFh http://imgur.com/D8Y5I, can't find the actual android Aug 28 23:42:45 lol Aug 28 23:42:50 get android working again then ! Aug 28 23:43:02 android 18 was hot naked. Aug 28 23:43:06 cant be that hard if it was just working then it just broke Aug 28 23:43:06 if thats relevant. Aug 28 23:43:06 fuck the bounty Aug 28 23:43:20 if you dont want the bounty ill take it ;) Aug 28 23:43:34 the idea is to get it working for us + all Aug 28 23:43:39 Craptain, Cypress touch ? Aug 28 23:43:40 not to hoard on some cash Aug 28 23:43:42 tbh Aug 28 23:43:44 who cares Aug 28 23:43:46 (I don't care about bounty - just want to help and learn) Aug 28 23:43:53 if i release i will donate all to Ron Paul Aug 28 23:44:02 lol Aug 28 23:44:04 and wipe my ass with leftovers Aug 28 23:44:10 craptain you think you can get it working again then ? Aug 28 23:44:12 craptain, want some help with these non believers? Aug 28 23:44:14 hey guys, I have ubuntu chroot. can I use this like novaterm on my touchpad? Aug 28 23:44:14 * AlanJayWeiner is also a libertarian Aug 28 23:44:23 http://i.imgur.com/YTxwg.png Aug 28 23:44:34 * cerjam1 would rather eat a bullet than support ron cocksucker. Aug 28 23:44:36 kidmet: old pic Aug 28 23:44:40 Toxinate: wrong room bud. Aug 28 23:44:52 Donate to the EFF, they're the ones that try and make sure you can legally _do_ all this. :) Aug 28 23:44:56 fuck eff Aug 28 23:45:01 rhcp, still proof Aug 28 23:45:07 is novacomd a blocking program? Aug 28 23:45:13 yes of the fucking bs running qualcom Aug 28 23:45:15 not interested Aug 28 23:45:20 ooo my android pic Aug 28 23:45:21 dude its a simple yes or no Aug 28 23:45:24 legallyu? fuck legal Aug 28 23:45:34 craptain, how did you fix touchscreen, thought it didnt work Aug 28 23:45:40 kidmet, gtfo, we're not "non-believers" we just believe in sharing knowledge Aug 28 23:45:41 built custom kernel Aug 28 23:45:45 mmmmmm is legal hot? typically they are. Aug 28 23:45:46 o Aug 28 23:45:51 legal or not Aug 28 23:45:55 would you run 2.2.1 Aug 28 23:46:03 if i gave you a .jar to instlal it Aug 28 23:46:03 ron paul wants to legalize weed Aug 28 23:46:11 yes Aug 28 23:46:12 much more important Aug 28 23:46:21 why do you need to build a custom kernel, why does the kernel from the touchpad running android not work if you just use that ? Aug 28 23:46:24 Out of the hundreds in here, probably only 20 of us are the ones talking and working together to bring Android to this tablet Aug 28 23:46:31 where does the uImage install to when it's done compiling the kernel? Aug 28 23:46:39 cause qualcomm slept with your mother Aug 28 23:46:44 stock touchpad kernel can't boot android Aug 28 23:46:44 nvm i'm dumb Aug 28 23:46:45 that's why Aug 28 23:47:00 rhcp: Yeah, I would. But I wouldn't advertise that I had anything to do with it. Aug 28 23:47:10 Yes Smith, regrettably you are correct Aug 28 23:47:11 rhcp: Which I don't, so good luck. :) Aug 28 23:47:15 in ron paul truly has said somewhere that he will legalize weed and you can find me the video Aug 28 23:47:21 i will vote for hm Aug 28 23:47:23 him* Aug 28 23:47:30 welcome back SamCripp Aug 28 23:47:30 ;) Aug 28 23:47:31 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8S8N2OG7sU Aug 28 23:47:35 lol Aug 28 23:47:37 "Ron Paul Calls for End to Drug War" Aug 28 23:47:39 back Aug 28 23:47:39 that was quick Aug 28 23:47:44 http://www.ronpaul.com/2011-06-23/ron-paul-end-marijuana-prohibition-now/ Aug 28 23:48:11 Simple thing here right..... If touchpad hardware = same hardware as the touchpad which was running android . Then if you copy all the data from the flash from the android touchpad to our touchpad it should work the exact same ! Aug 28 23:48:17 hey rhcp what happened in the last few hours Aug 28 23:48:35 im officially voting ron paul Aug 28 23:48:39 the kernel, same partition table everything Aug 28 23:48:45 yeah ron paul is gonna do what he says! Aug 28 23:48:49 oh wait hes a fucking politician Aug 28 23:48:54 Sorrowuk: Nobody has the data in a way that would be needed to pull that off. Aug 28 23:49:18 Sorrowuk: It was pulled from a device by walking a noob through it on the phone. It's not a proper bit for bit copy or anything from what I've heard. Aug 28 23:49:26 Sorrowuk: the problem is you can't just clone multiple filesystems at one time like that Aug 28 23:49:54 TecKnight: You can with special tools, but those weren't available in this case. Aug 28 23:50:02 cyanogenmod devs are working on this anyway. So we will have android soon :) . They know what they are doing! Aug 28 23:50:12 TecKnight, it's extremely annoying that the hundreds of people in here are waiting to hear on progress from the developers, but will still talk like they know what they're talking about. You can't idle and listen and then only chime in on the offense, that's not how it works... Aug 28 23:50:31 Sorrowuk, tis a rumor, of which we wouldn't like to spread Aug 28 23:50:47 its not a rumor Aug 28 23:50:49 its on twitter Aug 28 23:50:55 Sorrowuk: could you calm down the drama? Aug 28 23:50:58 I want this: http://www.ramsan.com/products/rackmount-flash-storage/ramsan-810?gclid=CLvhupGW86oCFUsaQgodrDITeQ Aug 28 23:51:05 its on the internet it must be true Aug 28 23:51:27 If I didn't know better I would say you are implying something there Aug 28 23:51:40 Sorrowuk: you are helping nothing here with saying that. Aug 28 23:51:45 ok Aug 28 23:51:48 sorry Aug 28 23:51:50 ugh seriously people who are not devs sit on the sidelines and watch sigh lol Aug 28 23:51:57 I agree. Aug 28 23:54:06 hey guys, anything I can do to help. i aam not that familiar with android, but a project like this should be right up my ally Aug 28 23:54:21 There are alot of very talented people working very hard on this. I am very optimistic in the long term that they will succeed Aug 28 23:55:20 I'm sure it'll get done by someone within the next couple weeks if not less. But I'm patient, and just enjoy watching the process. And I try and stay out of the way. :) Aug 28 23:55:21 yup people think its like.....oh its a tablet....so we'll have android on it in 2 days right lol....gotta give it time lol...i like watching the devs at work =P Aug 28 23:55:32 should contact some of the webos developers in homebrew and get them to create a program for copying bit by bit from a touchpad Aug 28 23:56:01 I would suspect that WebOS devs might be a little resistant to that idea. :) Aug 28 23:56:17 would give them something to do Aug 28 23:56:23 lol Aug 28 23:56:32 daddylong: Help kill their platform? ;) Aug 28 23:56:43 haha indeed Aug 28 23:57:02 Tellar, good point as it is akin to falling on your sword Aug 28 23:57:22 im sure you guys will get it Aug 28 23:57:25 maybe it will help them jump ship Aug 28 23:57:42 They need to move on though. They know it. It might as well be android :-) Aug 28 23:58:04 seppuku Aug 28 23:58:09 better that then windows phone 7 *shudders* Aug 28 23:58:11 They would be better off in the long run to become Android developers anyway, right ? Aug 28 23:58:47 yep someone should get ahold of them, make a forum post on precentral.net and see if anyone bites Aug 29 00:00:42 TecKnight: Don't take this wrong, but every time I read your name I think of this comic book: http://goo.gl/h9tmf & http://goo.gl/1k4WW (Semi-SFW, but _wrong_ nonetheless) Aug 29 00:00:48 anyone know how to solve the error: reading packet, result(-1), errno 9 issue with novacom on openSUSE? Aug 29 00:00:52 That's 'Tek Knight'. :D Aug 29 00:00:52 It seems like we could really benefit from some kind of boot front end that would allow you to select which image to boot under Aug 29 00:00:54 so whats your motivation behind this craptain? and where did it all go wrong? Aug 29 00:01:09 asked a QuiC dev for bootloader help on twitter.  figured it was worth a shot. Aug 29 00:01:51 The Android Release available for the APQ8060 is: – Android 2.3.3_r1 (Gingerbread) – Linux Kernel 2.6.35-7 • The Android Source Code Release downloaded from : – http://www.codeaurora.org • Detailed instructions can be found at : – https://www.codeaurora.org/xwiki/bin/QAEP/ • Get Source by using : – $repo init –u git://codeaurora.org/platform/manifest.git –b gingerbread_rel –m M8660AAABQNLYA109002.xml – $ Aug 29 00:01:58 definitely worth a shot Aug 29 00:02:12 is the m86660 similar? Aug 29 00:02:25 anyone here works at hp Aug 29 00:02:26 ? Aug 29 00:02:29 only without data? Aug 29 00:02:31 Yes that is the same one I used Aug 29 00:02:32 msm8660 = apq8060 + wwlan, so yeah it's the same Aug 29 00:02:46 msm8660_surf Aug 29 00:03:15 isnt there a newer one Aug 29 00:03:25 rhcp, this is possibly the coolest thing I've seen all week XD Aug 29 00:03:32 There is a different one Aug 29 00:03:34 http://www.qualcomm.com/documents/files/snapdragon-msm8x60-apq8060-product-brief.pdf Aug 29 00:03:38 https://www.codeaurora.org/xwiki/bin/QAEP/ Aug 29 00:04:44 ok Aug 29 00:05:01 zondajag: any reason you suspect gingerbread_rel and M8660AAABQNLYA109002? Aug 29 00:05:05 isnt the gingerbread_rel the older one? Aug 29 00:05:33 that was in a pdf i was given a link to Aug 29 00:05:46 could you find that pdf again? curious Aug 29 00:06:07 http://www.uplinq.com/sites/default/files/images/Snapdragon-Lab-Creating-Custom-Drivers.pdf Aug 29 00:06:20 couple of pages in Aug 29 00:06:38 hey ive just got back Aug 29 00:06:43 what the progress Aug 29 00:06:48 got it working? Aug 29 00:06:51 no Aug 29 00:06:57 topic Ice_Black Aug 29 00:07:08 setbacks and brickings Aug 29 00:07:19 http://androidspin.com/2011/08/28/hp-touchpad-gets-closer-to-android-now-has-clockworkmod-recovery-and-adb-access/ Aug 29 00:07:22 k1l yes i have seen it before Aug 29 00:07:23 we made android spin Aug 29 00:07:28 msm8660_csfb Aug 29 00:07:51 that the right one? Aug 29 00:08:03 trying to figure out the difference between the 2 Aug 29 00:08:20 oh god damn it, rhcp, they credited the picture to you Aug 29 00:08:22 :P Aug 29 00:08:25 actually I believe _surf should be the proper one Aug 29 00:08:31 even though my name is in the terminal XD Aug 29 00:08:35 heh Aug 29 00:09:09 the actual device was something obscure though, msm8660_something like azure, i forget Aug 29 00:09:14 wasn't a helpful lead though Aug 29 00:09:33 blogs, attention to detail? fact checking? balanced viewpoints? I think not Aug 29 00:09:35 ;) Aug 29 00:09:52 lol Aug 29 00:10:09 Smith7018: I can get them to fix it. if you want Aug 29 00:10:10 uhh... "previously leaked Android System Dump for the HP touchpad that some lucky users received on their touchpad's when they turned them on" <-- wtf?! Aug 29 00:10:14 ooo, fixed it :))) Aug 29 00:10:22 rhcp, not a big deal lol Aug 29 00:10:24 i has booting android again Aug 29 00:10:28 Yes the TP is azure, but you won't find that out there Aug 29 00:10:44 omg Aug 29 00:10:51 _surf is actually the Qualcomm DragonBoard Aug 29 00:10:57 oh Aug 29 00:11:15 msm8660_topaz Aug 29 00:11:17 you happier craptain? Aug 29 00:11:19 craptain were you able to fix the crazy screen? Aug 29 00:11:58 arguable the only other released device with an 8660 chip Aug 29 00:12:16 arguably Aug 29 00:12:17 haha Aug 29 00:12:42 yeah, the init script on the dump has references to: "msm8660_surf" | "msm8660_topaz" | "msm8660_opal" | "msm8660_csfb" Aug 29 00:12:44 ok so its progress craptain? Aug 29 00:12:49 the colors are still off on my screen Aug 29 00:13:05 and i'll be happy when i figure out exactly what i broke Aug 29 00:13:35 good man, thats the spirit Aug 29 00:13:37 Anyone with any updates, please let us know at tips@androidspin.com Keep up the awesome work guys :) First update out - http://t.co/rXXcOdP Aug 29 00:14:15 mod3, I suspect opal is probably another device scheduled for release Aug 29 00:14:17 boardtype=topaz-7thbuild-Wifi Aug 29 00:14:44 any luck jonpry? Aug 29 00:16:17 and it's almost definitely not a phone. The 8660 chip lacks a radio component, so it is really only usable in a tablet or other non-phone device Aug 29 00:16:22 working kernel? Aug 29 00:16:29 http://imgur.com/gSeFE Aug 29 00:16:34 TecKnight: not true, 8660s have CDMA or GSM depending on the model Aug 29 00:16:37 trippy droid Aug 29 00:17:15 I didn't know there were different models... Aug 29 00:17:33 dat psychedleidroid Aug 29 00:17:37 TecKnight: http://www.qualcomm.com/documents/files/snapdragon-msm8x60-apq8060-product-brief.pdf Aug 29 00:17:39 completely usable if on lsd Aug 29 00:18:05 Thanks Aug 29 00:18:17 MSM8660 = CDMA, MSM8260 = UMTS, APQ8060 = WiFi only Aug 29 00:18:22 woah Aug 29 00:18:23 any devs in here without a device? Aug 29 00:18:24 and what we have is the APQ8060 Aug 29 00:18:29 trippy Aug 29 00:18:39 pm me if you are a dev without a device Aug 29 00:18:40 Yes you are right Aug 29 00:19:02 I hope to have mine Wednesday Aug 29 00:19:13 there was a rumour that the tp had gps, but it was unactivated Aug 29 00:19:18 anyone know anything about that? Aug 29 00:19:20 id Aug 29 00:19:24 SamCripp: jonpry got a bricked one Aug 29 00:19:30 open it up Aug 29 00:19:39 ashtrai: the chip does, least in the documentation it says it does. Aug 29 00:19:55 jonpry, you bricked your device? Aug 29 00:19:58 Yes it does Aug 29 00:20:06 c0ns0le: would that be accessable through android? Aug 29 00:20:06 I <3 my touchpad Aug 29 00:20:06 would love to unlock gps Aug 29 00:20:07 lol Aug 29 00:20:27 ashtrai: and yes, i'd presume there is something w/i the chip which could activate it. Aug 29 00:20:34 ashtrai: but i'd not know how. Aug 29 00:20:36 to totally jump to conclusions, it looks like they had 4 devices planned -- 2 WiFi only models, and 2 3G-only models Aug 29 00:20:37 SamCripp: zero'd his 6th partition Aug 29 00:20:43 altered odd tho? Aug 29 00:20:45 in all likelihood yes, if it does not require an external antenna Aug 29 00:20:48 lasered Aug 29 00:20:58 ouch thats dumb Aug 29 00:21:06 samcripp u finally got 1? Aug 29 00:21:06 Why the fuck does my touchpad have something that looks like a sim card slot Aug 29 00:21:09 topaz_wifi, topaz_3g, opal_wifi, and opal_3g Aug 29 00:21:13 dont mess with any partiution below 13 Aug 29 00:21:18 no Aug 29 00:21:26 but i klnow something that will benefit devs Aug 29 00:21:30 ah Aug 29 00:21:32 would be amazing to actually have gps activated Aug 29 00:22:05 doh Aug 29 00:22:16 booting of /dev/mapper/store-ext3fs works for me Aug 29 00:22:20 Framework: mass production cost savings. its not cabled Aug 29 00:22:21 Framework: is it on the bottom right side? Aug 29 00:22:30 but it seems my init doesn't manage to mount it Aug 29 00:22:42 Lightning:Downloads maui$ adb devices Aug 29 00:22:42 List of devices attached Aug 29 00:22:42 000000000000 device Aug 29 00:22:43 Lightning:Downloads maui$ adb shell Aug 29 00:22:43 - exec '/system/bin/sh' failed: No such file or directory (2) - Aug 29 00:23:00 Yes, I have a Nexus 1 and was happy to see both the FM radio and WiFi-N support added by devs after it's release Aug 29 00:23:11 ashtrai: dont you need sometjing like a antenna for it? Aug 29 00:23:17 Framework: mass production cost savings. its not cabled Aug 29 00:23:17 lammeeeee Aug 29 00:23:17 hey…adb reboot works ;) Aug 29 00:23:49 k11 most GPS chipsets have gone away from having antennas Aug 29 00:24:10 the antenna is integrated Aug 29 00:24:13 the hp has aGPS Aug 29 00:24:22 when you have to retrieve maps over WiFi, and GPS only works indoors, the GPS is pretty useless Aug 29 00:24:23 yes Aug 29 00:24:40 yeah is not a satallite gps Aug 29 00:24:42 this is not a dev channel anymore? Aug 29 00:24:45 but a network gps Aug 29 00:24:55 can't you just save the maps? Aug 29 00:25:03 mauimauer: thats in webos? Aug 29 00:25:06 or recovery? Aug 29 00:25:13 maui adb reboot is working ? Aug 29 00:25:13 no i am booting a full system img Aug 29 00:25:14 mauimauer: congrats on the adb reboot, clearly we're all done ;) Aug 29 00:25:16 sorrowuk just raped me on Tanked :( Aug 29 00:25:17 and the init works Aug 29 00:25:21 gps function is dev talk Aug 29 00:25:22 is that what you wanted to hear? Aug 29 00:25:23 ;) Aug 29 00:25:26 Smith7018 and I are trying to get it working here lol on my tab Aug 29 00:25:29 e.g. i can verify that when checking clog after rebooting back to bootie Aug 29 00:25:31 no reason it works on his and not mine Aug 29 00:25:32 is good to know what the hardware can and cannot do Aug 29 00:25:33 kinda odd Aug 29 00:25:39 SamCripp: I got an issue (concern) Aug 29 00:25:45 maybe you know aplan Aug 29 00:25:52 tell me Aug 29 00:25:53 but i don't get a shell…and i think this is because i don't mount my ext3fs partition Aug 29 00:25:55 if we use one kernel for both android / webos Aug 29 00:25:56 or it fails Aug 29 00:25:57 Yes I agree SamCripp Aug 29 00:26:03 and ADB is on Aug 29 00:26:09 how can we use webosdr? Aug 29 00:26:25 i send over a uImage with my kernel (bases on jonpry) and my ramdisk Aug 29 00:26:31 you would need to add the neccesary functions to the software of course Aug 29 00:26:32 the ramdisk contains the init to mount /system Aug 29 00:26:33 can you use adb shell ? Aug 29 00:26:38 but why even bother making a kernel for both Aug 29 00:26:41 which i have put on /dev/mapper/store-ext3fs Aug 29 00:26:42 thats kindapointless Aug 29 00:26:49 SamCripp: its not 2 Aug 29 00:26:50 bootie can handle bootchain Aug 29 00:26:51 its 1 atm Aug 29 00:26:52 and the shell is in there... Aug 29 00:26:58 but if you are in webos Aug 29 00:27:00 and want to restore Aug 29 00:27:01 lets see Aug 29 00:27:02 we are better off launching from a folder inside internal memory Aug 29 00:27:03 say Aug 29 00:27:05 it wont work Aug 29 00:27:06 but since adb reports that it can't find it Aug 29 00:27:19 so i think i fail to init lvm.static and mount /system Aug 29 00:27:56 rhcp, i see what you are trying to do and applaud it, but i feel like it might be a bit to out there for right now Aug 29 00:28:11 nevermind Aug 29 00:28:18 rhcp, we need to concntrate on making android work and work well, then we can experiment on making dual kernels and what not Aug 29 00:28:58 experimentation will be safer if you have dual-boot from the start, not removing bootie Aug 29 00:29:46 what exactly is bootie? googled, but not finding anything useful... Aug 29 00:29:50 rwhitby, are you agreing wit me wih chainboot slution firrrt Aug 29 00:30:06 bootie is the round part behind you Aug 29 00:30:11 on awomn is excellent Aug 29 00:30:13 damn, I am itching to get my TP. I am missing out on the handson stuff Aug 29 00:30:15 makes for awesome dreams Aug 29 00:30:41 lol Aug 29 00:30:52 you thee rhcp ? Aug 29 00:31:00 * AlanJayWeiner understands - but is above that... :) Aug 29 00:31:03 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Bootie Aug 29 00:31:16 rwhitby: Im not removing booting at all Aug 29 00:31:20 im not an idiot Aug 29 00:31:21 :) Aug 29 00:31:29 its only way back Aug 29 00:31:48 rwhitby - thanks; thought I'd searched webos-internals - btw, thanks for the site! Aug 29 00:32:20 SamCripp: most people will want to help you test Android while you're developing it. You won't have it perfect first time. Those people may want to have a useable tablet while doing so. Dual-boot makes sense for them. Aug 29 00:34:10 dual boot at first makes sense Aug 29 00:34:19 I agree. I think it may even pay for itself in terms of the time involved to get some form of boot selection available Aug 29 00:34:22 rwhitby, my personal goal is dual boot Aug 29 00:34:23 nothing wrong with a failsafe Aug 29 00:34:28 i think webos has its merrit Aug 29 00:34:32 and i dont want to see it go Aug 29 00:34:46 dual booting also allows you more room to play Aug 29 00:35:01 if you break android oh well you can still use webos Aug 29 00:35:12 i think you need the option to set a default though without sacrificing precious time at boot Aug 29 00:35:40 choice is good Aug 29 00:36:05 SamCripp: same Aug 29 00:36:12 I just want to know if we need two kernels :) Aug 29 00:36:21 or can webosdr work with our generic Aug 29 00:36:21 rhcp, yes Aug 29 00:36:22 i am definitly a fan of dual boot, i thought i would hate webos but i agree the end pt should have dual boot option but for now just work on getting android then you can customize etc Aug 29 00:36:26 SamCripp: i dont think so Aug 29 00:36:26 lol Aug 29 00:36:33 we cant even replicate Smith7018's adb Aug 29 00:36:34 atm Aug 29 00:36:34 for something like that (dual booting) it should be easy to enlist webOS devs to help Aug 29 00:36:38 hes in shell with me Aug 29 00:36:41 with his uimage Aug 29 00:36:42 i think some ppl even want a tripple boot with native ubuntu ;) Aug 29 00:36:53 rhcp, you fail to see custom kernels and such Aug 29 00:37:02 people are going to want to do that Aug 29 00:37:02 I'm available to hack on the hp touchpad, other than the wiki is there another place i can go to look for tasks that need to be done? Aug 29 00:37:02 seeing that it would tend to preserve webOS Aug 29 00:37:04 tripple is fine we can chain it + menu via bootie Aug 29 00:37:07 so chainboot to me sounds better Aug 29 00:37:12 SamCripp: yes i know Aug 29 00:37:17 so people can do kernels and all the fun stuff Aug 29 00:37:30 anyways im trying to get adb working with Smith7018 :) Aug 29 00:37:35 something is very weird Aug 29 00:38:36 * AlanJayWeiner would prefer a dual-boot option also Aug 29 00:38:55 has anyone played with a grub-type boot loader? Aug 29 00:39:00 Better off doing it right first time, rather than hashing together a solution. Aug 29 00:39:37 hehe, had grub in my mind , too ;) Aug 29 00:40:08 SuperPhly, no need bootie can chainboot Aug 29 00:40:12 which is dual booting Aug 29 00:40:25 cool Aug 29 00:40:33 See you guys in a few, I am off to OfficeMax to get one of the TP bluetooth keyboards for $29 Aug 29 00:40:48 pardon my questions if they are a little noobie, but is there a chance we could run the same kernel for both android + luna? Aug 29 00:40:49 so where does carptain fit in with what you guys are doing? Aug 29 00:41:32 is he on his own or is that him just messing about? Aug 29 00:42:30 i think thats what rhcp wants SuperPhly Aug 29 00:42:40 I think craptain is own his own, but lets everyone know when he figures out something interesting Aug 29 00:42:45 i personally feel like each os needs its own kernel Aug 29 00:42:58 KaeRae8, thats true Aug 29 00:43:00 good kid Aug 29 00:43:02 craptain is one of them free spirited types... Aug 29 00:43:11 SamCripp: multiple kernels is easy with symlink switching in /boot Aug 29 00:43:13 <3>bad: scheduling from the idle thread! Aug 29 00:43:27 rwhitby, thanks Aug 29 00:43:30 thats what i though Aug 29 00:43:41 or with bootie-config Aug 29 00:43:46 im just wanting to know what's possible is all Aug 29 00:43:48 thanks rwhitby Aug 29 00:44:01 dual-boot has been done before on the Pre phone. It's a solved problem for webOS. Aug 29 00:44:08 if we can run webos (with webos kernel) and android with (andorid webos kernel)_ Aug 29 00:44:11 would be cool Aug 29 00:44:13 rwhitby, the pre running dualboot is it with config or the symlink switch Aug 29 00:44:44 rwhitby, glad to have an experienced webOS dev here Aug 29 00:44:53 ^ indeed Aug 29 00:44:56 any validity to the rumor that CM has android working somewhat? Aug 29 00:45:11 KaeRae8, #cyanogenmod Aug 29 00:45:12 I imagine you could be quite busy :) Aug 29 00:45:24 lol dam, got a power variation just now so i shutdown my pc Aug 29 00:45:33 SamCripp: all done in userspace, they didn't even touch the bootie env Aug 29 00:45:42 hey TecKnight Aug 29 00:45:45 Hower you doing? Aug 29 00:45:48 guys Aug 29 00:45:50 question Aug 29 00:45:50 yes ? Aug 29 00:45:52 i am giving up Aug 29 00:45:53 this is fucking killing me Aug 29 00:45:54 for today Aug 29 00:46:02 SamCripp, any change? Aug 29 00:46:03 DOES ANYONE besdies Smith7018 have adb working in webos? Aug 29 00:46:09 my kernel is either booting up…starting adbd but failing to boot /system Aug 29 00:46:12 or it crashes Aug 29 00:46:24 Flatspin, yes i got some insider info in a possible device for myself Aug 29 00:46:30 dunno how Flemmard got it to run ;) Aug 29 00:46:33 so maybe in a few days we can do this for real Aug 29 00:46:39 Well that's positive.. Cool... Aug 29 00:46:45 rhcp: jonpry had it working too.  I'd love it if they'd share the details of how they got there Aug 29 00:46:47 rhcp…define working Aug 29 00:46:56 adb devices show Aug 29 00:46:57 adb shell Aug 29 00:46:58 boom Aug 29 00:47:00 Did jopry ever unbrick his TP though? Aug 29 00:47:02 SamCripp that's good news Aug 29 00:47:03 devices show...yes Aug 29 00:47:07 adb shell…not so much Aug 29 00:47:09 it is Aug 29 00:47:10 working = usable Aug 29 00:47:11 there are several degrees of working Aug 29 00:47:12 lets hope it happens Aug 29 00:47:14 hmmmmmmmmmmmm Aug 29 00:47:16 dont get it Aug 29 00:47:18 im plum excited Aug 29 00:47:22 oh yea Aug 29 00:47:25 since rwhitby Aug 29 00:47:27 is here Aug 29 00:47:27 sorry Aug 29 00:47:39 rwhitby: jonpry semi bricked Aug 29 00:47:44 he zero'ed part 8 Aug 29 00:47:48 anyway he can get back? Aug 29 00:48:06 not that I know of. folks who are MSM devs may be able to. Aug 29 00:48:16 Flatspin: either he is working on unbrickimg or crying ;) Aug 29 00:48:29 rhcp: partition 6 Aug 29 00:48:30 part 6 Aug 29 00:48:31 remember, don't mess with before p13 Aug 29 00:48:42 lol k1l.. Let's hope unbricking is what happens... Aug 29 00:48:52 wuts p6? Aug 29 00:49:00 bootie? Aug 29 00:49:00 Friends don't let friends mess with before p13 Aug 29 00:49:05 lol Aug 29 00:49:28 p6 is partition 6 Aug 29 00:49:28 it's like "Hmm - the hardware has a perfect recovery system built-in, as long as I don't mess with any partitions before p13. what should I do next?" Aug 29 00:49:55 ouch Aug 29 00:49:57 so, i ran novaterm boot mem:// < uImage and it booted into webOS but the device stopped responding to novatermd, what did i screw up? Aug 29 00:49:57 Smith7018: did you log out? Aug 29 00:49:58 I'm sure it's recoveryable, but does anyone outside of HP know how.. Aug 29 00:50:03 k. now you have me curious... wtf. is the issue. i mean it's a disk.... Aug 29 00:50:10 err made to look like a disk. Aug 29 00:50:14 Sure, if you know how to do a romloader msm recovery, and the tools are publicly available, go for it. otherwise, why incur the hassle for no gain? Aug 29 00:50:23 rhcp, ya, I dunno what to do :( plus, I g2g to my friends house Aug 29 00:50:28 fyi, for anyone else still chasing the quic codebase: msm8660_surf appears to be a 800x480 device with a keypad, so it doesn't exactly look like a great match Aug 29 00:50:28 he says its stuck in qdl mode Aug 29 00:50:30 np Aug 29 00:50:31 im sure ill be on later tonight Aug 29 00:50:33 im confused :/ Aug 29 00:50:35 but i might be drunk Aug 29 00:50:35 :P Aug 29 00:51:00 gizmodo? as in the site? Aug 29 00:51:05 but its close Aug 29 00:51:11 thanks for the info mod3. Aug 29 00:51:11 bastards - mum doesnt give me back my touchpad Aug 29 00:51:16 rhcp: so my general response is: "If you mess with stuff before p13, and you brick it, then please don't waste my time asking me whether it can be unbricked or how ;)" Aug 29 00:51:30 that was me Aug 29 00:51:30 ok i got it Aug 29 00:51:33 Lightning:Downloads maui$ adb devices Aug 29 00:51:34 List of devices attached Aug 29 00:51:34 000000000000 device Aug 29 00:51:34 Lightning:Downloads maui$ adb shell Aug 29 00:51:35 # ls Aug 29 00:51:35 acct init sdcard Aug 29 00:51:35 cache init.rc sys Aug 29 00:51:36 config init.tenderloin.rc system Aug 29 00:51:36 d mnt uRamdisk Aug 29 00:51:36 data persist ueventd.goldfish.rc Aug 29 00:51:37 until we have romldr if it ever works Aug 29 00:51:37 default.prop proc ueventd.rc Aug 29 00:51:37 dev root vendor Aug 29 00:51:43 coding is best done when drunk... how I get thru my programming finals.. specifically assembly lol Aug 29 00:51:51 mauimauer: Rough steps on how you got adb running? Aug 29 00:51:53 mauimauer: Care to shed some light? Aug 29 00:52:03 mauimauer: use pastebin plz Aug 29 00:52:06 beating my head over here Aug 29 00:52:06 KaeRae8: what assembly? Aug 29 00:52:08 well…most of it is based on Flemmards work Aug 29 00:52:13 tmzt_: welcome Aug 29 00:52:14 tmzt_, you know of people working on the QualDLL.dll? Aug 29 00:52:16 we got some info here Aug 29 00:52:19 its jonpry's kernel Aug 29 00:52:22 assembly language Aug 29 00:52:24 jonpry: no Aug 29 00:52:31 together with the ramdisk out of the qcom_repo Aug 29 00:52:37 i know asm Aug 29 00:52:41 what are we reverse eng? Aug 29 00:52:42 :) Aug 29 00:52:44 i created a 2GB ext3 partition with meta-doctor Aug 29 00:52:47 What about _csfb ? Aug 29 00:52:49 I hate asm Aug 29 00:52:54 i love it Aug 29 00:52:55 i put the stuff from /system there Aug 29 00:52:55 esp arm Aug 29 00:52:56 :P Aug 29 00:53:01 nevermind Aug 29 00:53:08 mauimauer: Can you do me a huge favor. and paste bin the steps Aug 29 00:53:12 jonpry: good luck with the recovery. hope you find someone who knows MSM loader. If you do, I'm interested in knowing too for a last resort scenario. Aug 29 00:53:13 ive been beating my head for about 2hrs Aug 29 00:53:14 bitches please Aug 29 00:53:17 jonpry: what did you wipe? Aug 29 00:53:26 p6 Aug 29 00:53:38 which is? Aug 29 00:53:48 qcsbl? Aug 29 00:53:49 guys ill brb. my wife needs to send western union Aug 29 00:53:50 don't have the xml iin front of me Aug 29 00:53:51 rwhitby: wuts msm loader? Aug 29 00:53:51 I once wrote a gameboy game in asm.. was like 19k lines Aug 29 00:53:52 this is annoying :) Aug 29 00:53:57 * rwhitby bbl Aug 29 00:54:01 ok see ya rwhitby Aug 29 00:54:02 thanks Aug 29 00:54:10 jonpry: anything on usb? Aug 29 00:54:16 o my fuckin god its a bitch to connect to irc via an iphone tethered connection ,.. SASL auth bullshit Aug 29 00:54:25 anyways if you flash 6.img from the rip to p6. and nothing else. it will put you into full usb disk mode. very cool Aug 29 00:54:34 just restore to get back Aug 29 00:54:58 its important that its 6.img and not zero's though. or your fubar Aug 29 00:55:04 jonpry: how did you flash back 6? Aug 29 00:55:10 or you didn't Aug 29 00:55:21 jonpry: still fucked? Aug 29 00:55:29 i did it a couple of times. between rip and orig 6.img Aug 29 00:55:33 then i got lazy Aug 29 00:55:35 jonpry ruin his tp? Aug 29 00:55:53 oh yeah super fucked Aug 29 00:55:57 thre's pbl we need to see what it can do Aug 29 00:55:58 tmzt_, QDL mode Aug 29 00:56:09 jonpry: connect with usbserial generic Aug 29 00:56:12 thre's a prompt Aug 29 00:56:19 if it's unlocked you should be able to flash Aug 29 00:56:20 # uname -ar Aug 29 00:56:20 Linux localhost 2.6.35-palm-tenderloin #3 SMP PREEMPT Mon Aug 29 01:42:17 CEST 2011 armv7l unknown Aug 29 00:56:21 its set on qcserial Aug 29 00:56:27 i have to change it? Aug 29 00:56:27 our exper isn't her ethough Aug 29 00:56:30 yeah Aug 29 00:56:40 interesting Aug 29 00:56:42 just mod usbserial vendor= product= Aug 29 00:56:49 it gvies you the other endpoint Aug 29 00:56:54 blacklist qcserial? Aug 29 00:57:02 tne use minicom or sreccen Aug 29 00:57:04 yes Aug 29 00:57:40 tmzt_ so jonpry flasehd something stupid? Aug 29 00:57:43 you'll need some flash stuff we ported for g2 Aug 29 00:57:48 or did a battery thing happen? Aug 29 00:57:56 siestacat8: ya' 0s Aug 29 00:57:59 it's either in my github (github.com/tmzt) or I don't know where, maybe rhcp's Aug 29 00:58:18 brb Aug 29 00:59:09 mauimauer: working on intird? Aug 29 00:59:31 yep..i have put a /system dump on /dev/mapper/store-ext3fs Aug 29 00:59:33 siestacat8: zeroed partition 6. dont fiddle with partition <13 unless u know what to to or arent in a rush Aug 29 00:59:46 now i am figuring out how to use lvm.static to be able to mount it Aug 29 01:00:08 not very pretty right now Aug 29 01:00:19 vgscan Aug 29 01:00:22 although i can adb shell my way in Aug 29 01:00:28 just symlink lvm.static as vg* Aug 29 01:00:38 # lvm.static vgscan Aug 29 01:00:38 File descriptor 7 (socket:[2646]) leaked on lvm.static invocation. Parent PID 109: /system/bin/sh Aug 29 01:00:38 File descriptor 8 (/dev/__properties__ (deleted)) leaked on lvm.static invocation. Parent PID 109: /system/bin/sh Aug 29 01:00:38 File descriptor 13 (/dev/pts/0) leaked on lvm.static invocation. Parent PID 109: /system/bin/sh Aug 29 01:00:39 Reading all physical volumes. This may take a while... Aug 29 01:00:46 powers been out for the past 6 hours Aug 29 01:00:49 hi Aug 29 01:01:05 that's it Aug 29 01:01:06 wierd Aug 29 01:01:15 and /dev/mapper doesn't exist Aug 29 01:01:15 I bet it doesn't like the mdev layout that android init uses Aug 29 01:01:26 you'll have to create it with mknod Aug 29 01:01:30 ini init.rc Aug 29 01:01:36 well…i tricked it Aug 29 01:01:41 since it can't mount /system Aug 29 01:01:49 i have put busy box in /system/bin in the ramdisk Aug 29 01:02:03 right Aug 29 01:02:34 nothing in my dmesg Aug 29 01:02:50 also my init doesn't know devwait... Aug 29 01:02:54 really weired Aug 29 01:03:01 while 1 -f ? Aug 29 01:03:08 er Aug 29 01:03:21 doesn't matter if i can't get lvm.static to work Aug 29 01:03:29 why would it be in your busybox? Aug 29 01:03:33 dmesg Aug 29 01:03:38 cat /proc/devices Aug 29 01:03:48 should have dm mampper Aug 29 01:03:50 mapper Aug 29 01:03:58 android uses dm for asec anyway Aug 29 01:04:02 i couldn't get lvm.static to show anything Aug 29 01:04:15 http://pastebin.com/mVRLahyc Aug 29 01:04:16 lvm.static vgscan Aug 29 01:04:25 lvm.static. vgchange -ay Aug 29 01:04:39 jonpry: he deosn't have /dev/mapper Aug 29 01:04:52 it creates /dev/device-mapper Aug 29 01:05:04 tmzt@ubuntu:~$ ls -lh /dev/mapper/control Aug 29 01:05:06 crw------- 1 root root 10, 59 2011-08-25 09:26 /dev/mapper/control Aug 29 01:05:24 tmzt_, can't get usbserial to load Aug 29 01:05:37 jonpry: what does dmwesg say? Aug 29 01:06:04 [470557.771481] usb 2-1.6: new high speed USB device number 81 using ehci Aug 29 01:06:07 end Aug 29 01:06:24 modprobe usbserial vendr=0x05c6 product=0x9008 Aug 29 01:06:31 no effect Aug 29 01:06:48 modprobe -r userseiral Aug 29 01:06:49 so…do you think i am stuck? Aug 29 01:06:51 usbserial Aug 29 01:07:04 mauimauer: mkdir /dev/mapper Aug 29 01:07:12 did that Aug 29 01:07:13 mauimauer: mknod /dev/mapper/control c 10 59 Aug 29 01:07:17 59? Aug 29 01:07:20 thought it was 39 Aug 29 01:07:26 maybe Aug 29 01:07:28 it's 59 for me Aug 29 01:07:32 is iti misc? Aug 29 01:08:03 ok done Aug 29 01:08:06 tmzt@ubuntu:~$ cat /sys/class/misc/device-mapper/dev Aug 29 01:08:07 10:59 Aug 29 01:08:18 so it's 39 for you? Aug 29 01:08:24 it apparently changes every boot Aug 29 01:08:36 it's a misc device Aug 29 01:08:58 does my paste bin help? Aug 29 01:09:13 jonpry: pastebin lsusb -v -v for that htc qdl Aug 29 01:09:15 qdl Aug 29 01:09:21 mauimauer: where? Aug 29 01:09:35 tmzt_, i got usb serial to load. but no prompt with minicom Aug 29 01:09:35 http://pastebin.com/mVRLahyc Aug 29 01:09:52 10:37 Aug 29 01:10:02 oooo cool palm has a sdk for Linux too! Aug 29 01:10:23 jonpry: you have three serial devices? Aug 29 01:10:49 so now i have /dev/mapper/control Aug 29 01:12:08 tmzt_, just one Aug 29 01:12:41 tmzt_, http://pastebin.com/tWRutC9e Aug 29 01:12:56 damn…would be great to see what happens if i can mount /system Aug 29 01:13:03 so close…and it's getting kinda late here Aug 29 01:13:30 tmzt_, do you know if ad-hoc will work on the wireless card for the tp Aug 29 01:13:39 jonpry, if I gave you the vendor ids would it help? Aug 29 01:13:47 jonpry: actually I believe qdl is a binary protocol Aug 29 01:13:57 me too Aug 29 01:14:08 wheres Pulser|Offline at Aug 29 01:14:09 similar to the one htc's use to upload nbh's Aug 29 01:14:12 oh.. offline it seems Aug 29 01:14:18 we need scotty damn it Aug 29 01:14:27 yes nbflasher for apq8060 would probably work Aug 29 01:14:34 yep Aug 29 01:14:48 you have to modify the checksumming or something Aug 29 01:14:52 I can't remember what it is Aug 29 01:15:43 i've tried to use various versions of qpst and the streak flasher seemed particularly promissing as its 8xxx Aug 29 01:15:48 brb Aug 29 01:16:07 jonpry: it's not dm though Aug 29 01:16:13 it's similar Aug 29 01:16:13 dm? Aug 29 01:16:19 qualcomm diag Aug 29 01:16:31 streak flasher is over QDL Aug 29 01:16:35 dmsetup.static! Aug 29 01:16:35 there sorry about that Aug 29 01:16:44 mauimauer: no Aug 29 01:16:51 mauimauer: you aren't using dmraid Aug 29 01:17:07 4.1.3. I get errors about /dev/mapper/control when I try to use the LVM 2 tools. What's going on? Aug 29 01:17:07 The primary cause of this is not having run the "dmsetup mknodes" after rebooting into a dm capable kernel. This script generates the control node for device mapper. Aug 29 01:17:12 mauimauer: what did vgscan do when you added /dev/mapper/control ? Aug 29 01:17:20 oh Aug 29 01:17:26 okay Aug 29 01:17:40 vgscan outputs the same as before Aug 29 01:18:34 hi Aug 29 01:19:22 mauimauer, are you using that wiki page? I was able to load lvms by following it Aug 29 01:19:32 wiki page? Aug 29 01:19:37 the palm dev wiki Aug 29 01:20:09 man today is not good for me Aug 29 01:20:09 lol Aug 29 01:20:13 i keep getting pulled away Aug 29 01:20:16 all day long Aug 29 01:20:18 link farchord? Aug 29 01:20:24 yeah ;) Aug 29 01:20:45 hold on Aug 29 01:21:10 jonpry: https://github.com/tmzt/g2root-kmod/blob/efc81c1c42b71fff066c03d69e60d8d265049424/scotty2/pbl/dumppbl.pl Aug 29 01:21:18 I don't know if your in osbl or pbl Aug 29 01:21:30 if you can forward that dump to rhcp it might be helpful with recovery Aug 29 01:21:44 Found it Aug 29 01:21:46 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Last_Resort_Emergency_BootLoader_Recovery Aug 29 01:21:49 if that's the right bootlaoder Aug 29 01:21:55 thx Aug 29 01:22:04 mauimauer, search for alternative recovery Aug 29 01:22:19 05c6:900e ? Aug 29 01:23:21 farchord, thx Aug 29 01:23:29 Hope it helps! Aug 29 01:26:18 any luck with that hippie style touchpad craptain? Aug 29 01:26:47 jonpry: join #g2root Aug 29 01:28:38 did mauimauer post steps to get adb going? Aug 29 01:28:41 in webos Aug 29 01:28:41 ? Aug 29 01:28:43 while i was gone Aug 29 01:28:55 i am not running adbd IN webos Aug 29 01:29:01 oh Aug 29 01:29:03 you said you were Aug 29 01:29:03 i am running it out of my proposed android ramdisk Aug 29 01:29:08 lol Aug 29 01:29:17 ok so thanks Aug 29 01:29:18 which is pretty cool ;) Aug 29 01:29:19 next :P Aug 29 01:29:25 thats easy Aug 29 01:29:26 lol Aug 29 01:29:29 the fuck, 1.9 with performance gov and my pad STILL lasted all day Aug 29 01:29:44 kickass device imo Aug 29 01:30:41 btw…dmsetup.static mknodes created /dev/mapper/control Aug 29 01:30:51 but lvm.static is still bitching around Aug 29 01:31:00 guys/gals, i'm off. catch ya tomorrow afternoon. Aug 29 01:31:48 who are you again? Aug 29 01:31:51 mauimauer: I don't think lvm liks android init Aug 29 01:31:58 http://pastebin.com/HH1UmC6k Aug 29 01:32:05 what's not to like... Aug 29 01:32:10 it does not do that much ;) Aug 29 01:32:26 and Flemmard has this working Aug 29 01:32:34 but he used an aosp ramdisk Aug 29 01:32:47 farchord: i'm noone.... a ghost... a shadow... a c0ns0le... Aug 29 01:32:53 farchord: aka noone. Aug 29 01:33:00 SamCripp: did you setup the device tree? by chance Aug 29 01:33:14 lol Aug 29 01:33:17 mauimauer: ignore the fd mesages Aug 29 01:33:28 seems somebody built against a debugging libc Aug 29 01:33:37 rhcp, no sorry, ive been all day reading all the confusing info on the device to begin dioing so Aug 29 01:33:46 no its ok SamCripp Aug 29 01:33:47 decided im better off working on just getting a device Aug 29 01:33:48 just asking Aug 29 01:33:57 info is so conflicting i rather see the shit on my hands Aug 29 01:34:06 i understand 100% Aug 29 01:34:23 so i am stuck ;) Aug 29 01:34:30 grml Aug 29 01:35:09 maybe i should try not using the android init Aug 29 01:35:24 and instead just start adbd myself Aug 29 01:36:10 how do you know it's not working? Aug 29 01:36:27 it might just not be creating the block devices Aug 29 01:36:33 well i don't get anything in /dev/mapper besides control ;) Aug 29 01:36:43 look in /sys/block Aug 29 01:37:09 mmcblk0 is there Aug 29 01:37:12 I don't have an lvm setup anywahere though Aug 29 01:37:21 find /sys |grep mapper Aug 29 01:38:01 http://pastebin.com/HZthY6Ed Aug 29 01:40:02 well..it looked that easy in the novacom-installer miniboot.sh Aug 29 01:41:01 mauimauer, maybe im wrong but when I did it this morning, it was in /dev/mapper, not /sys Aug 29 01:41:42 far chord…the problem is that vgscan doesn't add any volumegroups Aug 29 01:41:58 What are you booted into atm? Aug 29 01:42:05 your own kernel? Aug 29 01:42:33 yeah…jonpry's kernel with tenderloin_defconfig Aug 29 01:42:41 inside an android ramdisk.img Aug 29 01:42:47 which i have build from the qcom repo Aug 29 01:43:08 did jonpry survive? Aug 29 01:43:09 try to download the webos doctor jar, and get the boot uimage from there Aug 29 01:43:12 his tp? Aug 29 01:43:12 and boot from there Aug 29 01:43:25 that doesn't bring me close to android ;) Aug 29 01:43:34 and is anyone going to put these kernels up so the rest of us can booties into them? Aug 29 01:43:34 oh ok nm Aug 29 01:43:40 thought the point was to map the lvms Aug 29 01:43:42 my bad ^ Aug 29 01:43:45 already tried that btw ;) Aug 29 01:43:57 lol ok Aug 29 01:44:00 their installer uImage and ramdisk are quite nice Aug 29 01:45:28 has anyone setup a device tree in CM tree before? Aug 29 01:45:33 i know Bumble-Bee|Away has but hes not here Aug 29 01:45:37 and SamCripp has Aug 29 01:45:41 I never have Aug 29 01:45:50 hi guys Aug 29 01:45:52 how is going Aug 29 01:45:54 i have whats up? Aug 29 01:46:28 SamCripp: I want to set it up. and try to build CWM based off what we have. i dono i fit will work. tmzt_ is saying we can copy in one of the (cwm setup's) into it for LVM Aug 29 01:46:32 SamCripp: he's trying to build cwm with the correct partitions Aug 29 01:46:49 SamCripp: really we need to premount /system and /data Aug 29 01:47:20 anyone here? Aug 29 01:47:37 os[Linux 2.6.38-11-generic x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "natty" 11.04] cpu[3 x AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 800MHz] mem[Physical: 11.8GB, 91.5% free] disk[Total: 2.9TB, 77.7% free] video[ATI Technologies Inc RV770 [Radeon HD 4850]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB1: USB-Audio - USB Device 0x46d:0x8082: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI3: USB-Audio - Razer Megalodon] Aug 29 01:47:38 then you need to edit the recovery.ftab Aug 29 01:47:45 there we go.... right amount of space Aug 29 01:47:47 XD Aug 29 01:47:50 SamCripp: well. yea Aug 29 01:48:04 but need a proper setup Aug 29 01:48:10 or its just going boom out Aug 29 01:48:13 thats step on Aug 29 01:48:23 ive never done it Aug 29 01:48:24 :) Aug 29 01:48:39 is buttons functioning Aug 29 01:48:49 yes Aug 29 01:48:52 on nook :P Aug 29 01:48:57 cwm Aug 29 01:49:27 so the keys on the tp are also working Aug 29 01:49:39 yea Aug 29 01:49:41 same way Aug 29 01:49:46 up an ddown Aug 29 01:49:47 and home Aug 29 01:49:48 all work Aug 29 01:49:50 and power Aug 29 01:50:03 k Aug 29 01:50:04 with complete random image (from nook) Aug 29 01:50:09 no customizing Aug 29 01:50:10 :P Aug 29 01:50:11 then now the next step Aug 29 01:50:18 video is fucked Aug 29 01:50:20 as you saw Aug 29 01:50:38 is too make sure we open and mount the right partitions Aug 29 01:50:49 SamCripp: do they need to be mmcblocks? Aug 29 01:50:59 or can we specify the lvm paths Aug 29 01:51:03 in the configs Aug 29 01:51:13 dev blocks Aug 29 01:51:21 see Aug 29 01:51:24 you'' have to make sure vgscan runs before recovery.fstab is read Aug 29 01:51:29 tmzt_: see Aug 29 01:51:32 let me get a hold of some folks Aug 29 01:51:34 look what SamCripp said Aug 29 01:51:41 and ill verify if we can use an alternate method Aug 29 01:51:42 this is info we dont have :P Aug 29 01:51:54 SamCripp: if its koush dont mention me :) Aug 29 01:52:00 make out like its your own shit Aug 29 01:52:01 :P Aug 29 01:52:02 nah Aug 29 01:52:08 SamCripp: we also need a install/uninstall android menu item Aug 29 01:52:12 i know better programers Aug 29 01:52:17 cool Aug 29 01:52:22 tmzt_: menu? you mean bootie? Aug 29 01:52:31 rhcp: no, cwm Aug 29 01:52:39 menu options are easy edits Aug 29 01:52:41 i can do those Aug 29 01:52:49 and run a script? Aug 29 01:52:49 and functions are easy as well Aug 29 01:52:54 you can do w/e Aug 29 01:52:55 yes Aug 29 01:53:00 its plain C Aug 29 01:53:16 the issue is getting the device tree setup :) Aug 29 01:53:30 lets see if SamCripp can help us Aug 29 01:53:35 yeah adding some options to cwm is easy sauce Aug 29 01:53:37 if so. I think we can have cwm tonight Aug 29 01:53:45 rhcp, once i have the device on hand it will take me maybe like 1 to 2 days to get a full device tree and test it Aug 29 01:54:02 SamCripp: i know. but can you help even if i need to give you ssh? Aug 29 01:54:13 no Aug 29 01:54:19 thees stuff i need to see on hand Aug 29 01:54:26 we have pics of the devices for deving Aug 29 01:54:29 and all the chips Aug 29 01:54:33 dont se what the diff is Aug 29 01:54:36 so do we Aug 29 01:54:38 want it? Aug 29 01:54:40 but i actually would need to open it and see inside wha made it out Aug 29 01:54:49 we have full parts list Aug 29 01:54:51 and tear down Aug 29 01:54:57 oh really Aug 29 01:54:58 and pics Aug 29 01:55:00 yes Aug 29 01:55:02 pm me Aug 29 01:55:16 lspci? Aug 29 01:55:55 lspci? Aug 29 01:55:57 what? Aug 29 01:56:01 it's an arm device Aug 29 01:56:10 k Aug 29 01:56:49 my experience is only with x86 architectures Aug 29 01:57:10 it's not that arm can't have pci, it's that these devices don't Aug 29 01:57:15 SamCripp: pm sent Aug 29 01:57:16 didn't know is there's a similar function Aug 29 01:57:19 they have ahd bus I tink Aug 29 01:57:27 mostly you can't enumerate the bus Aug 29 01:57:31 need teardown pics of touchpad insides? Aug 29 01:57:34 so you define the devices on the platform bus Aug 29 01:57:41 try ifixit Aug 29 01:58:38 platform bus is a virtual bus in the kernel where devices that don't have a real bus can be registered Aug 29 02:00:24 hey does anyone have the prebuilt msm-tp kernel Aug 29 02:00:26 want to test something Aug 29 02:00:36 and dont have my normal dev box Aug 29 02:00:45 I need to learn embedded stuff eventually. just took a vhdl course at work last week Aug 29 02:02:27 jonpry: #g2root might be able to help you with recovery, Guhl is our qdl person and he's in there Aug 29 02:04:00 wait, we have a quallcomm dev!? Aug 29 02:04:06 whom? Aug 29 02:04:32 no Aug 29 02:04:37 that would be qct Aug 29 02:04:41 we have webos guys :) Aug 29 02:04:42 no qct people here Aug 29 02:06:02 we stalked some down and asked one for bootloader/kernel help though :) Aug 29 02:06:19 did that work? Aug 29 02:06:29 take a guess Aug 29 02:06:33 hahaha Aug 29 02:06:45 i'd like to think yes ;p Aug 29 02:06:52 i woudlnt be surprised out of the 400 people here. if some are qualcom and HP people Aug 29 02:06:55 tbh Aug 29 02:07:27 if they were, they probably wouldn't be very open about it -- i'm sure they're all under NDA Aug 29 02:07:44 well if anyone is. feel free to msg me. if you are not at work :) Aug 29 02:07:46 i can keep a secret Aug 29 02:08:26 hahahah Aug 29 02:08:35 i wouldn't be surprised if the project were to reach a roadblock that some assistance would come from anonymous Aug 29 02:08:38 hey, I got HTC people / VZW people Aug 29 02:08:40 etc Aug 29 02:08:43 they prob dont care at this moment because HP is laying off tons people Aug 29 02:08:51 ive never needed hp/qualcom really :) Aug 29 02:08:53 till now Aug 29 02:08:58 everyone on that qualcomm team clearly knows about this project by now Aug 29 02:09:00 * Ironsight lays off kn_ Aug 29 02:09:12 not trying to be funny Aug 29 02:09:19 kn_: im hopeing one of the layed off people can help Aug 29 02:09:19 ;) Aug 29 02:09:21 with a few things Aug 29 02:09:25 given the 'accidentally' released prototypes and the massive traffic spike their git repo is getting Aug 29 02:10:56 does the tp have ir Aug 29 02:10:56 oh lord :) Aug 29 02:11:01 no Aug 29 02:11:03 http://tabletroms.com/forums/touchpad-general-development/2190-tabletroms-hp-touchpad-android-2-3-porting-project.html Aug 29 02:11:08 anyone know any of those peeps? Aug 29 02:11:39 what's that under vol button Aug 29 02:12:53 ? Aug 29 02:12:54 I know that DJ_Steve is the only decent rom maker for the Dell Streak 5 Aug 29 02:12:57 rhcp: RaYmAn is in this channel, if that helps ;) Aug 29 02:13:03 which is why he's part of the team :P Aug 29 02:13:04 i think i remeber rothonic Aug 29 02:13:09 streak = kind of a tablet Aug 29 02:13:19 he worked on a bunch of hacks/roms for the viewsonic gtablet Aug 29 02:13:22 are these guys devs? or rom makers? Aug 29 02:13:28 big diff Aug 29 02:13:39 hes probably sitting in #tegratab right now if you want to ask him Aug 29 02:13:42 RaYmAn: want to comment? Aug 29 02:14:00 yah rothonic is in #tegratab atm Aug 29 02:14:16 hes got skillz Aug 29 02:14:56 these guys seem a little too "l33t" for my tastes Aug 29 02:15:21 TR Elite Team member RaYmAn Aug 29 02:15:28 " " Aug 29 02:15:51 :/ Aug 29 02:15:52 zomg, useless androids.. work together damn u Aug 29 02:17:39 http://www.techrepublic.com/videos/dojo/hp-touchpad-teardown-and-hardware-analysis/6254112?tag=content;siu-container Aug 29 02:18:03 oi Aug 29 02:18:05 whats this Aug 29 02:18:08 http://t.co/OILFH19 Aug 29 02:18:26 off for today Aug 29 02:18:28 ^ webgl app Aug 29 02:18:38 good luck everyone Aug 29 02:18:48 cya mauimauer Aug 29 02:19:14 also Aug 29 02:19:16 good read - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1K24KdGNLhaTICV1LXSRLdA8GyyrKAP31uj_LrKU8OG0/edit?hl=en_US&pli=1# (sure it's already been noticed by you guys) Aug 29 02:19:17 Dj_Steve is elite. Aug 29 02:21:01 adb and CWM are working! that's great news Aug 29 02:22:22 pimping news Aug 29 02:22:41 so what would be next step? Aug 29 02:23:15 by the time i get this 3.0.2 to actually download (refuse to use webdoctor) - these guys will have android going Aug 29 02:24:07 http://team-touchdroid.com/wiki/index.php?title=FAQ Aug 29 02:24:15 kernel. Aug 29 02:24:45 http://rootzwiki.com/content.php?r=234-EXCLUSIVE-CyanogenMod-7-On-the-HP-TouchPad Aug 29 02:24:48 foxtroop: yeah took me like 3 days to get the update to download Aug 29 02:24:56 it would get halfway then say unable to connect Aug 29 02:25:29 the system update? Aug 29 02:25:42 yeah, i finally got it though. Aug 29 02:25:53 yeah it took forever to download for me....no errors, but took forever Aug 29 02:26:04 squash: i found myself becoming a bit obsessed with getting it to work, lol Aug 29 02:26:08 im sure the update server was getting hammered Aug 29 02:26:12 foxtroop: yeah Aug 29 02:26:13 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1K24KdGNLhaTICV1LXSRLdA8GyyrKAP31uj_LrKU8OG0/edit?hl=en_US&pli=1# <--- sounds l33t to me. hopefully the gingerbread source for that dev board will be as useful as he thinks it will be. Aug 29 02:26:17 i just kept hitting update Aug 29 02:26:21 JoeTheGuest: Oh I guess I was right about CM Aug 29 02:26:25 got my 32gb one updated after hitting update a million times Aug 29 02:26:28 yeah i check the forums several times a day to see what new stuff has been added Aug 29 02:26:32 probably after 10 times in one day i would say fuck it Aug 29 02:26:35 and try again the next day Aug 29 02:26:35 hows it going? Aug 29 02:27:24 dang, that CM7 post real? Aug 29 02:27:33 yessir Aug 29 02:27:37 cm7 post? Aug 29 02:27:42 yeah came from their twitter Aug 29 02:27:42 wassup squash Aug 29 02:27:44 the cm7 port Aug 29 02:27:48 also fuck you danielc|touchpad Aug 29 02:27:49 :P Aug 29 02:27:51 holy shit Aug 29 02:27:52 nice Aug 29 02:28:04 squash y you so mean Aug 29 02:28:13 <[styx]> http://rootzwiki.com/content.php?r=234-EXCLUSIVE-CyanogenMod-7-On-the-HP-TouchPad Aug 29 02:28:18 im reading the google doc. He mentions running the cpu @ up to 1.5..........lol, it's already up to 1.9 so far Aug 29 02:28:22 http://twitter.com/#!/Decad3nce Aug 29 02:28:22 foxtroop what post? Aug 29 02:28:31 mine runs stable @ 1.7ghz Aug 29 02:28:32 right above Aug 29 02:28:36 HOLY SHIT Aug 29 02:28:40 wow Aug 29 02:28:42 they come from qc at up to 1.5... that's what he means Aug 29 02:28:43 <[styx]> anyone get m ylink? Aug 29 02:28:47 <[styx]> *my Aug 29 02:28:53 cyanogenmod team pimped that touchpad Aug 29 02:28:56 posted already Aug 29 02:29:02 hmmmz Aug 29 02:29:03 <[styx]> damn im late Aug 29 02:29:09 ah [styx] posted it Aug 29 02:29:12 :) Aug 29 02:29:13 https://twitter.com/#!/toastcfh/status/107957055737954304 Aug 29 02:29:15 i was going ot post that Aug 29 02:29:19 <[styx]> lol Aug 29 02:29:20 :x Aug 29 02:29:21 http://rootzwiki.com/content.php?r=234-EXCLUSIVE-CyanogenMod-7-On-the-HP-TouchPad someone decided to quit horsin around and put their foot down Aug 29 02:29:43 http://www.youtube.com/v/c20yOVKm5UM << Direct link to video of CM7 running from that link Aug 29 02:29:44 Is it me or the thing boots VERY fast? Aug 29 02:29:45 ... Aug 29 02:29:46 that cm7 touchpad is now bricked Aug 29 02:29:59 oh wow bricked? Aug 29 02:30:01 hipster: why? Aug 29 02:30:06 based on the video and what they are talkin about, they have had it running since b4 friday Aug 29 02:30:09 YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Aug 29 02:30:10 YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Aug 29 02:30:15 read his twitter Aug 29 02:30:21 im glad cm team got their shit together Aug 29 02:30:21 MrShydez is that possible? Aug 29 02:30:22 http://twitter.com/#!/Decad3nce Aug 29 02:30:50 Who is toastcfh ? Aug 29 02:31:01 toastcfh = a boss Aug 29 02:31:07 toastcfh is part of teamwin Aug 29 02:31:28 okay and wtf is teamwin? Aug 29 02:31:30 uh, hmm Aug 29 02:31:41 :P Aug 29 02:31:46 cm wow Aug 29 02:31:48 Congrats to CM Decad3nce :) Aug 29 02:31:49 android devteam Aug 29 02:31:49 he works on CM on a bunch of devices Aug 29 02:31:50 fuckin awesome, knew they had something going lol. why aren't we talkin tothese guys? Aug 29 02:31:54 I have some fun logs from #htc-linux with toast Aug 29 02:32:28 Torch_: that's a lot of work from green-- and jonpry Aug 29 02:32:34 watson769: some of us are ;) Aug 29 02:32:36 so give them the proper credit Aug 29 02:32:37 :P Aug 29 02:32:39 yeah dont fuck with partitions :P Aug 29 02:32:40 Haha Aug 29 02:32:59 lol I figured you were one of their webOS comrades Aug 29 02:33:09 i ate a poopy Aug 29 02:33:14 eww Aug 29 02:33:23 Decad3nce: using jonpry's kernel? Aug 29 02:33:39 Decad3nce: can you see a use for a cwm-based initrd recovery? Aug 29 02:33:57 right now, i'm under then influence of ambien Aug 29 02:33:59 for instance, to do the initial install without wiping webos Aug 29 02:34:15 well anyway congrats and thanks rwhitby+anyone involved. cm7 on touchpad would be awesome Aug 29 02:34:31 if you get toastcfh a touchpad he'll get android booting Aug 29 02:34:32 ^ Aug 29 02:34:43 riggsAndroid: toast is part of cm Aug 29 02:34:50 and guess who we're asking tp's for Aug 29 02:34:51 :x Aug 29 02:35:00 oh i just saw the last 25-30 lines Aug 29 02:35:00 * Decad3nce puts 2 and 2 together Aug 29 02:35:05 fu deca Aug 29 02:35:08 :D Aug 29 02:35:08 :P Aug 29 02:35:22 i had 2 ordered - 2nd was going to him, but onsale canceled Aug 29 02:35:30 I'm 0/6 on orders Aug 29 02:35:31 :P Aug 29 02:35:36 fucking onsale Aug 29 02:35:39 * Ironsight rips the touchpad off my old laptop and sends it to toast Aug 29 02:35:40 1/2 online, 0/4 stores Aug 29 02:35:52 i skipped onsale and went straight to macmall.com Aug 29 02:35:52 i literally walked into bestbuy and walked out with 4 /cower Aug 29 02:35:58 wife just happened to walk into bestbuy last week when second shipment pulled up.... only allowed us one of each Aug 29 02:35:59 I wonder if my laptop's touchpad can do Android? Aug 29 02:36:02 :/ Aug 29 02:36:06 i hope we can get a dual boot for this thing. I'm actually really diggin webOS, minus the lack of apps Aug 29 02:36:24 lack of apps? Aug 29 02:36:31 * Ironsight touches his asus synaptics touchpad Aug 29 02:36:41 Ironsight, lol Aug 29 02:36:50 tmzt, yep lack of apps like logmein, remote desktop, ftp client Aug 29 02:36:51 multitouch too! Aug 29 02:36:55 :D Aug 29 02:36:55 HP has that free webosw app thingie deal Aug 29 02:37:00 i think Aug 29 02:37:01 Ironically, all this time that is being spent trying to port Android, could be used to port apps accross to webos Aug 29 02:37:07 tmzt_: uhh a mix, yes -- at some point, and thanks to lvm being set up, I think we'll be fine Aug 29 02:37:08 there arent many apps though Aug 29 02:37:13 tmzt_: to your questions Aug 29 02:37:18 ok, night time Aug 29 02:37:19 app pay Aug 29 02:37:21 and there's no web browser alternatives Aug 29 02:37:22 player Aug 29 02:37:26 im not a big fan of the browser Aug 29 02:37:33 better than porting android Aug 29 02:37:40 nickmv: there's at least two alternate browsers Aug 29 02:37:43 all I have to port is a tic tac toe game I made in sdl Aug 29 02:37:45 nickmv: because it uses cards? Aug 29 02:37:51 lolololololol Aug 29 02:37:51 back a year ago Aug 29 02:37:53 which ones? I saw Universe...and 1 more Aug 29 02:37:53 rwhitby: Don't they run the same rendering engine though? Aug 29 02:37:59 Torch_: yes Aug 29 02:38:14 rwhitby: So any issue affecting the rendering of one, affects them all :p Aug 29 02:38:20 Torch_: correct Aug 29 02:38:22 rwhitby: anybody try upgrading webkit under luna? Aug 29 02:38:23 tmzt: are you refering to my statement about the browser, or the webOS? Aug 29 02:38:23 wow is this the fastest port on device? Aug 29 02:38:28 or is the js-binding an issue Aug 29 02:38:39 nickmv: the brwoser Aug 29 02:38:40 tmzt_: not that I know of Aug 29 02:38:41 I'm not a fan of the browser. it has odd issues once in a while Aug 29 02:38:52 rwhitby: what graphics lib does it use? Aug 29 02:38:53 you can download the source for firefox mobile and compile it for touchpad, it is arm7 afterall Aug 29 02:39:12 skia, cairo, efl etc. Aug 29 02:39:15 if you wanted a new browser that bad Aug 29 02:39:17 tmzt_: I'm not a browser guy, best to ask someone else. Aug 29 02:39:20 no, just certain sites dont load right in the browser Aug 29 02:39:22 rwhitby: okay Aug 29 02:39:29 I just want IE6 for it.. :/ Aug 29 02:39:33 music wont keep playing when the screen turns off Aug 29 02:39:35 lol Aug 29 02:39:44 thats not because of the broweser Aug 29 02:39:50 thirteenth: I think you overshot. Aug 29 02:39:51 its got some kind of sleep mode Aug 29 02:39:57 setup openssh Aug 29 02:39:59 and ssh in Aug 29 02:40:01 let the screen die Aug 29 02:40:02 god, screw that, I'll take links2 -g Aug 29 02:40:09 Torch_, oh okay, sorry! Aug 29 02:40:12 ncsa mosaic Aug 29 02:40:37 so erm. after watching that video from cm Aug 29 02:40:40 they are doing what we are Aug 29 02:40:43 ie6... really? l,ao Aug 29 02:40:45 lmao Aug 29 02:40:49 http://rootzwiki.com/content.php?r=234-EXCLUSIVE-CyanogenMod-7-On-the-HP-TouchPad Aug 29 02:40:53 yes we saw Aug 29 02:40:56 Butbut, I love nonstandarnessity! Aug 29 02:40:56 its pasted 5 times Aug 29 02:40:57 enough Aug 29 02:40:57 omg stop posting that fucking link Aug 29 02:40:59 heh Aug 29 02:40:59 any recommendations on extra tweaks/apps from Preware? Aug 29 02:41:12 wirc Aug 29 02:41:25 I've got F15C @ 1.7ghz, priv browsing, a theme, and monitoring turned off, and some scheduler tweaks Aug 29 02:41:26 rhcp: kinda lame that they're competing but not sharing their progress Aug 29 02:41:40 * rwhitby chuckles Aug 29 02:41:43 Decad3nce, good work to you and the guys, simply amazing Aug 29 02:41:46 mod3st, CM7 team will embarass everyone else Aug 29 02:41:54 yep Aug 29 02:42:05 nickmv, +10 Aug 29 02:42:16 maybe in a year Aug 29 02:42:19 mod3st: they don't share incomplete code Aug 29 02:42:30 ill bet dollars to donuts Aug 29 02:42:31 nickmv, can you PM with how to use a custom kernel for webOS ? i just got my TP y-day Aug 29 02:42:32 I mean hell, that video alone shows that theyre actually doing something, unlike other teams Aug 29 02:42:45 thats all from initfs (Ram) Aug 29 02:42:56 there's a guide on XDA...lemme link you Aug 29 02:43:04 touchpad took his life for progress Aug 29 02:43:07 rhcp: nice link, this is exciting!! Aug 29 02:43:15 which one? Aug 29 02:43:17 the cm crap? Aug 29 02:43:23 Tyco didn't link that Aug 29 02:43:24 i sense jealousy Aug 29 02:43:25 whatever the first link was Aug 29 02:43:26 crap lol Aug 29 02:43:29 no not at all Aug 29 02:43:29 CM crap? Aug 29 02:43:30 rhcp* Aug 29 02:43:31 the grapes, they are sour. Aug 29 02:43:32 mod3st: everything ive seen from the cm team in the last tells me they're fairly self sufficient. it would probably hinder their efforts to explain nd spoon feed their work to others with lower skill levels Aug 29 02:43:32 i dont run cm Aug 29 02:43:40 does anyone know if koush has a touchpad? Aug 29 02:43:40 and cm crap, don't be hating. Aug 29 02:43:53 would be interesting if he was playing around with one Aug 29 02:44:15 CM is so stinking organized. they are awesome!! Aug 29 02:44:20 gx1400_: fair enough -- totally didn't expect spoon feeding, just sharing high-level info on what worked for similarly-skilled devs Aug 29 02:44:22 cool Aug 29 02:44:23 I don't care who you are, the cm team is bawsss Aug 29 02:44:25 but cm != here Aug 29 02:44:26 :P Aug 29 02:44:28 next Aug 29 02:44:35 let them do their thing Aug 29 02:44:44 @billybob http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1230912 here you go Aug 29 02:44:55 thx nickmv Aug 29 02:45:00 rhcp: do you blame them? Aug 29 02:45:01 I think CM is actually google itself....thats why they know so much Aug 29 02:45:05 rwhitby: no Aug 29 02:45:06 Has anyone ever caught someone masturbating in their own house when you weren't even in their house Aug 29 02:45:07 be sure to follow the instructions carefully when adding the kernels feed Aug 29 02:45:08 lol jbruchon Aug 29 02:45:10 that kernel has some major issues in webos Aug 29 02:45:13 Broadcast message from root (Sun Aug 28 22:40:41 2011): Aug 29 02:45:13 powerd: System woke up. Aug 29 02:45:13 Broadcast message from root (Sun Aug 28 22:40:43 2011): Aug 29 02:45:13 powerd: System going to sleep now Aug 29 02:45:21 thats not kernel Aug 29 02:45:23 vinyl, f15? Aug 29 02:45:23 thats normal Aug 29 02:45:24 riggsAndroid: What? Aug 29 02:45:27 not hating Aug 29 02:45:33 vinylfreak89: there's a patch for that Aug 29 02:45:34 just letting u guys know Aug 29 02:45:34 turn it off Aug 29 02:45:40 jbruchon_ Aug 29 02:45:47 I think CM is actually google itself....thats why they know so much Aug 29 02:45:53 its only when toucscreen is off Aug 29 02:46:01 vinylfreak89: there's a patch for that in Preware Aug 29 02:46:11 oh ok Aug 29 02:46:11 word on the street t here is an htcunlcoker her? Aug 29 02:46:13 where? Aug 29 02:46:22 err whats it called Aug 29 02:46:38 lordcraigus yes you have come to the right place Aug 29 02:46:38 there's not that many Patches for touchpad - it'll be pretty obvious Aug 29 02:47:00 wheres that dood burning up tweeter Aug 29 02:47:02 umm guys, is this real? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRQzjF1_Af8 Aug 29 02:47:03 why hp set clock to 1.2 if it could run 1.9 Aug 29 02:47:12 i'm amazed that some people can get on irc but can't figure out how to install a kernel on their touchpad Aug 29 02:47:19 i see patches to muffle system logging Aug 29 02:47:20 Logoboy lol yes. Aug 29 02:47:20 cai: read up on speed binning Aug 29 02:47:20 rhcp Aug 29 02:47:25 nhat: mibbit and jirc made life easier. Aug 29 02:47:26 I see, so now I'm the local laughing stock. That's nice to know. Aug 29 02:47:29 what the f-!#$!?#% Aug 29 02:47:32 Logoboy: you mean you're here and you didn't know about that? Aug 29 02:47:34 lol Aug 29 02:47:34 jbruchon: what? Aug 29 02:47:50 nah i didn't know Aug 29 02:47:52 :( Aug 29 02:47:54 cai, would you sell a product that's clocked to the very edge of its capabilities, or release it at a rock solid stable 1.2? Aug 29 02:48:01 think about it Aug 29 02:48:06 and quiet powerd messages Aug 29 02:48:09 1.2G devices are only tested to 1.2G Aug 29 02:48:11 man im so happy cm7 got their shit done, can we call it a win and give them the money so we can all retire to work without walls Aug 29 02:48:17 but that wont stop it from disconnecting in reconnecting Aug 29 02:48:17 Torch_ i mean, how the hell were they able to find this channel but not able to find out instructions on how to install the kernel? Aug 29 02:48:23 Logoboy: that’s qualcomm's build -- some people have been trying to compile their open-sourced version to get there Aug 29 02:48:25 cpus for mobile devices are regularly underclocked to save power Aug 29 02:48:28 jbruchon what? Aug 29 02:48:28 1.2G devices are often 1.5G devices that failed the 1.5G tests Aug 29 02:48:32 nhat: I guess. Aug 29 02:48:54 mod3st: okay, so what's the difference? Aug 29 02:48:59 nickmv: but it is stable at 1.5 Aug 29 02:48:59 rwhitby is there any terminal program taht will run on the touchpad? Aug 29 02:49:01 between open source and qualcomm Aug 29 02:49:04 not stable at 1.9 Aug 29 02:49:10 jbruchon_ what Aug 29 02:49:15 vinylfreak89: Xecutah Aug 29 02:49:25 vinylfreak89: yes Aug 29 02:49:28 in preware? Aug 29 02:49:31 go lok in preware Aug 29 02:49:32 yes Aug 29 02:49:35 OK, so I've been wondering, is the Qualcomm build just running almost as an emulator? Aug 29 02:49:39 or go to webos quickinstaller Aug 29 02:49:41 Logoboy: qualcomm open-sourced some additions to android that help it run better on this chipset/machine. Aug 29 02:49:42 or is it booting straight into android? Aug 29 02:49:50 nothing Aug 29 02:49:50 nickmv: we are not talking about that image stuff here really. Aug 29 02:49:52 cai: what sample size have you used for your claim of stability at 1.5G, and what temperature ranges have you tested under? Aug 29 02:49:53 https://www.codeaurora.org/ Aug 29 02:50:18 rwhitby: online, everybody says it is stable at 1.7 Aug 29 02:50:24 oh heh preware update Aug 29 02:50:25 lol Aug 29 02:50:28 lol statistics. Aug 29 02:50:31 mod3st: so I can get froyo on my tp right now?? Aug 29 02:50:38 rwhitby: those overclocked it Aug 29 02:50:39 NO Aug 29 02:50:40 the touchpad chip does 1.5G, i assume its underclocked to save battery Aug 29 02:50:43 cai et. rwhity: You can twist any statistic to show anything. Aug 29 02:50:49 so uh, since i'm online, would you believe me if i say you can overclock it to 5ghz and it runs stable? Aug 29 02:50:58 of course, I had small samples Aug 29 02:51:02 listen, you want to have plenty of room for error in the manufacturing of these chips. You could have a bad batch, and if you have them running at speeds that are too close to their limits, it's BAD Aug 29 02:51:02 i have to admit Aug 29 02:51:05 with a fan on the back, mpouttr? Aug 29 02:51:05 mputtr, no Aug 29 02:51:10 :) Aug 29 02:51:17 Logoboy: http://team-touchdroid.com/wiki/index.php?title=FAQ Aug 29 02:51:23 rwhitby nothing is coming up for xecutah Aug 29 02:51:28 i'm just pointing out the idea of "a guy online told me so" is kinda.. unreliable Aug 29 02:51:32 mputtr, i do believe you can photoshp Aug 29 02:51:42 vinylfreak89: what google search terms did you use? Aug 29 02:51:45 it might work if i inject liquid nitrogen into it :) Aug 29 02:51:46 getting the bootloader and kernel installed are the issue, regardless of the source of the images Aug 29 02:51:48 OK. so you can run it at 1.7, but it is not good for cpu Aug 29 02:51:54 xecutah Aug 29 02:51:58 i didn't google Aug 29 02:52:00 i looked in preware Aug 29 02:52:04 mputtr, you could sink it in destile water Aug 29 02:52:16 d'oh Aug 29 02:52:18 or encase it in dry ice :) Aug 29 02:52:18 there's testing feeds Aug 29 02:52:34 Cooking oil. Aug 29 02:52:39 aiite guys time to go inject sleep into meh boday Aug 29 02:52:42 vinylfreak89: if you need an Esc key, stop now. LunaSysMgr eats it. Aug 29 02:52:43 tty tomorrow Aug 29 02:52:45 no im not saying that. What I'm saying is....they made hundeds of thousands, if not millions of these touchpads. Mfg quality varies, and one silicon wafer may produce a batch that runs solid @ 2.5ghz, and the next batch could possibly not go past 1.5ghz Aug 29 02:52:46 bye farchord Aug 29 02:52:58 nope dont need esc Aug 29 02:53:10 meh, my understanding is that there is no overvolting @ 1.7ghz... its not that much of an overclock, and pretty safe if no overvolting is done, Aug 29 02:53:15 by having it running @ 1.2ghz, you dont have to worry about stability issues Aug 29 02:53:20 millions? Aug 29 02:53:20 you know what Aug 29 02:53:22 don't think so Aug 29 02:53:24 •rhcp• can you +o fnj00 plox Aug 29 02:53:28 i'm only OCing mine to 1.5ghz Aug 29 02:53:33 jmhalder, makes me wonder about UNDERvolting Aug 29 02:53:35 seriously folks, read up on speed binning before discussing what overclocking may or may not do. Aug 29 02:53:39 i dont want to go too high since it seems unneccesary Aug 29 02:53:42 mputtr same here Aug 29 02:53:48 it runs fine at 1.5ghz Aug 29 02:53:53 rwhitby : I read it Aug 29 02:54:02 mine's running great at 1.7 Aug 29 02:54:03 http://www.overclockers.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-388807.html Aug 29 02:54:14 im not gonna bother trying 1.9ghz, its overkill Aug 29 02:54:24 you dont need it to go max speed 24/7. you want it to run smooth and with all things battery powered, it will work out in your best interest to get your device to run as smooth as possible while drawing as little power as possible Aug 29 02:54:30 with tweaks and 1.5ghz+, this thing purs Aug 29 02:54:34 why's it even matter if they underclocked it etc.. nothing to do with porting android Aug 29 02:54:41 ondemand Aug 29 02:54:52 fnj00-work: what did you change? Aug 29 02:55:04 OCing to ridiculous numbers are just to make a point. doing it for any other reason is just lack of thinking Aug 29 02:55:12 They probably underclocked to save battery Aug 29 02:55:15 watson, we're just having a friendly convo regarding the hardware Aug 29 02:55:15 just the url, want to see how much this server can handle before I move it over to a dedi box Aug 29 02:55:34 you dont need oc really, the difference isnt worth it on webos since theres not much to do on it Aug 29 02:55:44 once on android however, oc should prove very effective Aug 29 02:55:54 B6S 1.7 is much faster Aug 29 02:56:07 i saw side by side videos of oc and not overclocked Aug 29 02:56:10 i think changing the kernel and scheduler made more difference than the overclock on my touchpad Aug 29 02:56:10 tiny difference Aug 29 02:56:26 B6S, an OC provides a somewhat noticeable difference, but i agree.....with tweaks installed, it runs plenty fast already Aug 29 02:56:35 indeed Aug 29 02:56:38 i did the tweaks Aug 29 02:56:41 it helped quite a bit Aug 29 02:56:43 I did both Aug 29 02:56:44 more then satisfied Aug 29 02:56:57 if you install patches to minimize animation times, turn off monitoring, and some scheduler tweaks, and it runs pretty darn quick Aug 29 02:56:59 would it be possible to dev on the pre Aug 29 02:57:03 or is that pushing it Aug 29 02:57:16 (without installing ubuntu) Aug 29 02:57:39 i tried to install ubuntu on tp Aug 29 02:57:47 did not succeed Aug 29 02:58:25 lol Aug 29 02:58:35 i give it less than a month before the first rom is released Aug 29 02:58:42 ***just my opinion**** Aug 29 02:58:42 OC is a big help if you have a library of 720p high profile MKVs you want to play Aug 29 02:58:56 1.9 is epic people, why NOT do it? Aug 29 02:59:06 Quick question, anyone who got Ubuntu going on their touchpad, tried Minecraft? :) Aug 29 02:59:07 ondemand govnah keeps battery and heat down Aug 29 02:59:12 waste of cpu life and battery life Aug 29 02:59:13 i would be very surprised if we didn't have a basic build from CM by this time next week Aug 29 02:59:13 sprnigah: because it doesn't work Aug 29 02:59:15 yeah, with the big screen, im kinda regretting not getting a 32gb version Aug 29 02:59:24 1.9 is gonna fry your tab in short order Aug 29 02:59:25 sprnigah: battery life, stability Aug 29 02:59:27 cai: install how? Aug 29 02:59:28 nickmv, i got a 32 and 16 Aug 29 02:59:31 kevmanw430: we don't have an arm port of the binary bits Aug 29 02:59:33 tmzt_: really? seems fine for me Aug 29 02:59:34 very glad i got the 32 Aug 29 02:59:35 mod3st, i think they ned taps Aug 29 02:59:41 guys on a serious note Aug 29 02:59:48 if yguy cndonate or sell them tp Aug 29 02:59:49 Torch_: really really? hmm.. mines been running fine since saturday Aug 29 02:59:50 do it Aug 29 02:59:55 niice u rock Aug 29 02:59:56 tose guys are working har **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Aug 29 02:59:57 2011