**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Aug 30 02:59:57 2011 Aug 30 03:00:47 farchord: lol, thats funny everytime i watch it Aug 30 03:00:49 girls night is the night all your girls go out with other guys sorry to tell you Aug 30 03:01:14 NitroJunk: are you 12? Aug 30 03:01:22 no but I am divorced Aug 30 03:01:26 xD Aug 30 03:01:26 I think he just has a small penis Aug 30 03:01:32 farchord: +1… love the lonely island Aug 30 03:01:35 i just read on cnn.com that some group called "mod group" supposivly released a video showing they had android running on the touchpad?? i find this hard to believe Aug 30 03:01:58 Valek: what are you doing reading cnn.com? =P Aug 30 03:01:59 where the F have you been the past couple of days? Aug 30 03:02:07 i read the news every day lol Aug 30 03:02:33 CNN… oy, stupider than cnet Aug 30 03:02:38 Valek: so then why would u read that crap? =P Aug 30 03:02:46 Do they just call "cnet" "net" then? Aug 30 03:03:53 this article? http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/mobile/08/29/hp.touchpad.android/index.html?hpt=te_bn2 Aug 30 03:04:32 WebOS is great Aug 30 03:04:39 It just needs applications. Aug 30 03:04:55 yep Aug 30 03:05:14 By Monday, an Android "mod group" had released a video purporting to have succeeded. Wired reported that the team, CyanogenMod, said that the hack was relatively easy and that the hard part has been actually getting their hands on a TouchPad. Aug 30 03:05:16 Got some tweaks applied to it and it's very fast now Aug 30 03:05:23 they are talking about cm.... Aug 30 03:05:28 not a group called "mod group" Aug 30 03:07:43 so has it been ported now?? ive been away for a few days Aug 30 03:07:47 Yeah Aug 30 03:07:50 havent got to see whats been going on in the scene Aug 30 03:08:23 but im assuming its not a version that the average person wants to run yet?? Aug 30 03:08:24 um, their touch screen didnt even work Aug 30 03:08:32 so i wouldnt call it a full port yet Aug 30 03:08:52 we are dual booting webos, cm7, and a chevy camero Aug 30 03:09:04 well thats no good, i dont wanna use it if it isnt working yet lol Aug 30 03:09:34 i cant believe they made them without sd slots, thats retarded Aug 30 03:09:58 herro Aug 30 03:10:14 Herro der Aug 30 03:10:22 for a minute i was all excited cuz i thought android had been ported lol Aug 30 03:11:03 o.O Aug 30 03:11:55 always a ton of ppl in this channel Aug 30 03:11:57 there we go Aug 30 03:12:44 guess ill just hafta keep checking, i hope they manage to figure it out soon :P Aug 30 03:12:51 always always will Aug 30 03:13:16 congratz on the adb and sound Aug 30 03:18:25 so im assuming there is no point in wanting to load that android thing yet since the touchscreen doesnt work lol Aug 30 03:18:48 lol Aug 30 03:19:03 doesent the new HTC pas use similar hardware? Aug 30 03:19:06 not having android is killing me lol Aug 30 03:19:07 I would tend to disagree with that viewpoint Aug 30 03:19:09 pad** Aug 30 03:19:27 well if the touchscreen doesnt work, why would i wanna load it? lol Aug 30 03:19:32 xD Aug 30 03:19:43 anybody here play minecraft Aug 30 03:20:29 <|Jason8|> [22:15.10] doesent the new HTC pas use similar hardware? EVO 3D and sensation both have the same SoC Aug 30 03:20:36 <|Jason8|> This one just doesn't have a modem Aug 30 03:20:49 awesome work fellas, just watched the youtube clip of CM7 :-) Aug 30 03:20:53 makes sense Aug 30 03:21:06 i can fing wait Aug 30 03:21:16 you can? eh? Aug 30 03:21:32 can't Aug 30 03:21:36 fail xD Aug 30 03:21:52 <|Jason8|> I can and can't. Aug 30 03:21:56 <|Jason8|> I've really come to like WebOS Aug 30 03:21:59 man i really hope that my vendor gets some love from HP on that last shipment Aug 30 03:22:03 ^^^^ Aug 30 03:22:20 i got three and sold two of them immediately to friends Aug 30 03:22:35 Can peeps not read the topic Aug 30 03:22:40 Re cm Aug 30 03:22:44 ye Aug 30 03:22:45 a Aug 30 03:22:49 i know Aug 30 03:22:53 I mean...why not talk about it? Aug 30 03:23:04 [22:16] awesome work fellas, just watched the youtube clip of CM7 :-) Aug 30 03:23:08 Find a diff room Aug 30 03:24:01 why so cranky? Aug 30 03:24:20 If i was id ban you Aug 30 03:24:38 ban. go go go Aug 30 03:24:40 not to salt the wound but you would ban a dynamic ip? Aug 30 03:24:44 If you were on neweggs autonotify list for touchpad and you got an email from them and reply they will call you tomorrow and finalize order Aug 30 03:25:02 what would be the point Aug 30 03:25:06 It brings the moral down of the people working Aug 30 03:25:31 1 per person Aug 30 03:25:35 im not sure what i said to hurt morale? i said awsome work Aug 30 03:25:36 If peeps want that feel free to part Aug 30 03:25:47 Cm is not us Aug 30 03:26:23 If you wanna talk about CM on the TouchPad I made a room. #CMTouchPad Aug 30 03:26:31 We will do it right with a proper installer Aug 30 03:26:34 Etc Aug 30 03:26:44 i didnt realize that and with them listed in your status page i figured you were working with themn Aug 30 03:26:44 Ya go there Aug 30 03:26:45 Do you guys at least have what cm7 demonstrated? Aug 30 03:27:22 Or are you keeping it top secret and go out with a bang? Aug 30 03:27:23 Hey guys, I put a brick on my touchpad, does that mean I bricked it? Cause I'm scared, I heard bricking devices is bad. Aug 30 03:27:33 What a boot with nothing sure Aug 30 03:27:56 We are talking private Aug 30 03:28:07 Getting shit done Aug 30 03:28:16 Not chattering Aug 30 03:28:25 Kool Aug 30 03:28:38 rhcptp: I'm pretty sure I already told you, but if you need me to test an image, I can Aug 30 03:28:41 well i do apologize if i fuggered up anyones morale, that litterally wasnt the intention. Aug 30 03:28:46 Everyone has their own way of doing things Aug 30 03:28:46 I love pussy Aug 30 03:29:21 Yes i dont post a video of 0 working besides a novacom push Aug 30 03:29:37 And rumors Aug 30 03:30:06 I wish cm would hold off on posting that video Aug 30 03:30:20 i bet you would Aug 30 03:30:23 rhcptp: didn't you paste the lvm partitions it's using? Aug 30 03:30:37 No Aug 30 03:30:52 Brb going to pc Aug 30 03:31:03 !status Aug 30 03:31:12 !progress Aug 30 03:31:18 I have no reason to paste every little thing to 400 people Aug 30 03:33:16 yawn Aug 30 03:45:07 hmm, went to go update to 3.0.2 and i get "Unable to connect. Try again later." Aug 30 03:45:19 anyone else have issues updating? Aug 30 03:46:23 jsklarsky: use mediadr Aug 30 03:46:23 2 sad days Aug 30 03:46:24 to update Aug 30 03:46:41 is there any place for a java/html5 web developer to fit into the project? Aug 30 03:46:44 :-) Aug 30 03:46:56 :) Aug 30 03:47:08 lolololol Aug 30 03:47:10 give them a proper website lolol Aug 30 03:47:17 i can actually Aug 30 03:47:38 we are now up to five private channels to rebuild the 'dev' effort? Aug 30 03:47:54 we are working on a chain/bootloader and lvm-based recovery Aug 30 03:48:03 cm can do the android port, they are good at it Aug 30 03:48:15 they -and everybody else on the planet- need a source of touchpads Aug 30 03:48:19 rhcp: will check it out. thanks Aug 30 03:48:24 tmzt_ , PM Aug 30 03:48:26 jsklarsky: np Aug 30 03:48:28 i actually own a touchpad now Aug 30 03:48:51 and i've played with the API a bit, not much yet though, just got it recently Aug 30 03:50:10 but yeah, i would be quite happy to help out somehow with the project, and i have done a few wordpress sites by now. my latest one is this one: http://www.li4e.org/ which uses a combination of buddypress and wordpress Aug 30 03:50:38 i'm also not too bad at App development and yeah, i've done a little android dev stuff too Aug 30 03:51:20 root@Rhcptp:/# ls /dev/store/android-* Aug 30 03:51:21 /dev/store/android-cache /dev/store/android-data /dev/store/android-etc /dev/store/android-persist /dev/store/android-system Aug 30 03:51:43 lvm Aug 30 03:51:53 resized and webos still works Aug 30 03:52:12 i actually really like webOS Aug 30 03:52:19 ditto :-) Aug 30 03:52:20 just wish it had app diversity. Aug 30 03:52:20 same Aug 30 03:52:27 shame its going to die out eventually Aug 30 03:52:33 LOL WebOS is NOT dead Aug 30 03:52:39 whats ups Aug 30 03:52:43 a shit ton of people just bought Touchpads Aug 30 03:52:47 you thinK WebOS is dead? Aug 30 03:52:54 next to dead Aug 30 03:52:58 yeah, its going to be really alive for a while Aug 30 03:53:04 :O Aug 30 03:53:15 yes Aug 30 03:53:18 like crazy, i mean, think about how many touchpads where sold Aug 30 03:53:22 wish android had the cards system Aug 30 03:53:25 not very many? Aug 30 03:53:28 im becoming more of a fan by the day Aug 30 03:53:44 nah Aug 30 03:53:49 anyone know how to make my TP give me an audible alert when i get an EMAIL ?? Aug 30 03:54:05 But, unfortunately, once updates start slowing down, i bet it will become outdated, and Android and IOS will push forward Aug 30 03:54:10 android is still the better os i think because of how customizable it is Aug 30 03:54:11 bjbm, android 3 does basically have the card system Aug 30 03:54:18 webos is nice... its different. Aug 30 03:54:21 except they scroll up and down Aug 30 03:54:23 yeah Aug 30 03:54:39 webOS multitasking = FTW. Aug 30 03:54:43 i guess...maybe i just like the newness of webos...but i still prefer android Aug 30 03:54:54 how is its multitasking any better? Aug 30 03:54:56 HP TP is my first tablet though and its really pretty good Aug 30 03:55:06 clwillingham, same here Aug 30 03:55:17 i refused to pay 500+ for one or sign a contract for one Aug 30 03:55:17 minecraft webOS ftw Aug 30 03:55:21 hp won me over :) Aug 30 03:55:46 i think many people are comparing android 2.x to webos Aug 30 03:56:14 because its their first tablet Aug 30 03:56:30 oy Aug 30 03:56:36 i think webOS actually beats android 2.x for tablets, but 3.x might beat webOS Aug 30 03:56:39 Connor_: you still here? Aug 30 03:56:52 fml Aug 30 03:56:56 trabucle, hi Aug 30 03:56:57 trsohmers, Aug 30 03:57:18 so is development in this channel still continuing? Aug 30 03:57:40 good question, i'd like to know also Aug 30 03:57:49 Connor_: Would you be able to copy me that line again? Aug 30 03:57:51 the dd if Aug 30 03:57:57 oy, my computer is so screwed up Aug 30 03:58:21 anyone know how to make my TP give me an audible alert when i get an EMAIL ?? Aug 30 03:58:25 [21:20:30] ug 29 01:33:07 dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0 of=/sdcard/diskp2.img skip=4294967295 Aug 30 03:58:27 ug 29 01:33:07 dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0 of=/sdcard/diskp2.img skip=4294967295 Aug 30 03:58:31 thanks again Aug 30 03:58:31 Hivemind Aug 30 03:59:13 I never cared for webOS before the touchpad but common a cheat code for root that's awesome with a few tweaks I think it could be the best mobile os Aug 30 03:59:24 naa Aug 30 03:59:34 quite possibly Aug 30 03:59:46 like being able to pin cards to launcher so there always there Aug 30 03:59:49 i just saw everything that's been done with android while i havent been in the chan or on rootz Aug 30 03:59:52 I'd like to install a better browser on it though Aug 30 03:59:56 WOW. <-- only words Aug 30 04:00:09 blizz5243 i dont like the way the os operates...it doesnt let you konw when you click something, so I feel it is very unresponsive, constantly, and it annoys me to no end Aug 30 04:00:15 is a bit irritating, chrome would be awsome Aug 30 04:00:17 im surprised at how badly it runs. ive got all the tweaks and overclock happening and scrolling through lists is laggy as hell. is there no gpu acceleration? Aug 30 04:00:32 damageless: Greetings Aug 30 04:00:45 trsohmers: how's it going Aug 30 04:00:50 even without gpu accel, that much cpu horsepower should have it smoother than that Aug 30 04:00:56 OK… waiting for access to the touchpad... Aug 30 04:01:16 well... it's not a super powerfull tablet, but it still functions pretty well, i think it has gpu acceleration somewhere though because there are some games with really good framerates Aug 30 04:01:30 well i mean in the gui Aug 30 04:01:50 * rhcp has a headeache Aug 30 04:02:04 not to say there arnt tweaks needed but common there's been like one system update I flash the new miui each week and things only get better how hp and the homebrew community treat the current os will determine its worth Aug 30 04:02:19 yeah, i don't know about that, i suppose if you wrote an app for it, you could write everything with gpu acceleration (basically use opengl or something) but that would probably be overkill Aug 30 04:02:39 between dumps of useless android info. (from protected qualcom src) that will get your ass sued. non-sense chat Aug 30 04:03:34 rhcp so we can just get sued for useless shit now? Aug 30 04:03:41 uhh yea Aug 30 04:03:49 its prop stuff Aug 30 04:03:49 is there anyone specific i should contact if i do want to get involved in the touchdroid project? Aug 30 04:03:53 Hey guys, this is what I have so far: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ap2NEACNrGeqdDhqSEc5REVqb3pHbnlXM1c3UjgycEE&hl=en_US Aug 30 04:04:16 blizz5243, WebOS is great Aug 30 04:04:31 not rlly Aug 30 04:04:35 Yes reawlly Aug 30 04:04:36 Really Aug 30 04:04:43 Nice! Aug 30 04:04:48 and if there was any dump going on Aug 30 04:04:54 to each their own Aug 30 04:04:55 it would have beeen done years ago. at this rate Aug 30 04:05:01 system is no more then 250 megs Aug 30 04:05:01 oh lol Aug 30 04:05:02 at max Aug 30 04:05:03 yeah Aug 30 04:05:06 who the hell wants data Aug 30 04:05:13 TecKnight: GPS?!?!?!? Aug 30 04:05:13 I am trying to break down the hardware as much as possible Aug 30 04:05:16 /boot and /system Aug 30 04:05:22 so i call major BS Aug 30 04:05:28 i can help make you guys a good site though if you want Aug 30 04:05:31 with forums Aug 30 04:05:38 clwillingham: site is made thanks man Aug 30 04:05:47 TecKnight: Since when has the touchpad had GPS? Aug 30 04:05:48 http://team-touchdroid.com/ Aug 30 04:05:54 since always Aug 30 04:06:00 .. Aug 30 04:06:01 wait it has gps? Aug 30 04:06:05 afaik Aug 30 04:06:06 The chip has GPS on it Aug 30 04:06:15 LOL i saw it Aug 30 04:06:15 HP has never mentioned GPS Aug 30 04:06:20 i guess no one bothered to look at the chip info Aug 30 04:06:24 still happy to help somehow though Aug 30 04:06:26 trsohmers: its called research Aug 30 04:06:27 although it is not conventional GPS Aug 30 04:06:33 i was thinking this sort of site: http://jmonkeyengine.org/ Aug 30 04:06:52 TecKnight: Then what is it? Aug 30 04:06:55 The Android build even had the GPS chip enabled Aug 30 04:06:55 with... you know, kind of everything, forums, wiki, etc Aug 30 04:07:11 The Android build even had the GPS chip enabled Aug 30 04:07:13 clwillingham: not needed Aug 30 04:07:13 ^ Aug 30 04:07:15 but yeah, the current one is probably good Aug 30 04:07:23 just more to manage Aug 30 04:07:27 and more questions Aug 30 04:07:28 you all suck Aug 30 04:07:31 blah blah Aug 30 04:07:32 Lol Aug 30 04:07:38 WiFi GPS itsbonebif the preloaded apps Aug 30 04:07:38 probably true Aug 30 04:07:39 shush it Drew66 :P Aug 30 04:07:46 and RootzWiki is a great forum Aug 30 04:07:48 especially with this much publicity going on Aug 30 04:07:51 i can barely manage a 400 room irc Aug 30 04:08:03 is it taht big now? Aug 30 04:08:05 whats to manage ? :P Aug 30 04:08:07 clwillingham: no comment on the publity Aug 30 04:08:09 wow....weird autocorrect Aug 30 04:08:14 it was none of the real devs intentions Aug 30 04:08:18 then ban 100people Aug 30 04:08:18 ;D Aug 30 04:08:41 If you look at the Kernel setting from the Android build, you will see that the Broadcomm 4751 driver is enabled Aug 30 04:09:07 TecKnight_: But if you also look into the kernel config, it lists it having NFC Aug 30 04:09:18 LOL Aug 30 04:09:31 I haven't taken the android device apart, but the commercial units do not have NFC Aug 30 04:09:43 all because a kernel config shows NFC Aug 30 04:09:47 doesnt mean the device has it Aug 30 04:09:48 Yes I noticed that too. There were no specific drivers enabled for NFC, however Aug 30 04:09:55 rhcp: That was exactly what I was saying Aug 30 04:10:20 if you look really closely at the screen and realllllly believe then you can see a mirror into your soul Aug 30 04:10:24 I don't think it has NFC either Aug 30 04:10:27 I was saying that just because a kernel config.gz says that, it isn't necessarily true. Aug 30 04:10:59 config file* not config.gz Aug 30 04:11:07 whatever Aug 30 04:11:43 Hey um Aug 30 04:11:45 The msm8060 doc even says it has: gpsOne Gen 8 with GNSS Standalone, Assisted, gpsOneXTRA, 2dB improvement vs. Gen 7 Aug 30 04:11:47 trsohmers: I dono wtf you are doing besdies trolling hard. but that dump takes about 1hr over a decent speed Aug 30 04:11:53 to get system and /boot Aug 30 04:11:54 at max Aug 30 04:12:00 What? Aug 30 04:12:03 read Aug 30 04:12:12 He hasn't gotten home yet Aug 30 04:12:16 When we finally get android ported to the touchpad and we overclock it to 1.9 Ghz...isn't the touchpad going to be the fastest Android device on the market? Aug 30 04:12:17 i mean last night Aug 30 04:12:19 it should have been done Aug 30 04:12:26 if its even true Aug 30 04:12:48 open a port on a linux box. setup nc Aug 30 04:12:49 1.9 Ghz. Can the chip do that ? Aug 30 04:12:53 yes Aug 30 04:12:58 There is a 1.9 GHz kernal out Aug 30 04:13:04 setup tar + nc on the pad Aug 30 04:13:05 wow !! Aug 30 04:13:10 push all the files across Aug 30 04:13:11 done Aug 30 04:13:13 1x hr Aug 30 04:13:16 1 hr max Aug 30 04:13:17 done Aug 30 04:13:22 That would be screaming fast Aug 30 04:13:25 to make a copy of mmcblk0, it takes about 900 seconds, so 15 minutes. It then takes about 1000 seconds to transfer it over USB to the machine Aug 30 04:13:32 I bet we see the chip hit just over 2 Aug 30 04:13:33 rhcp is saying he can have it working in an hour? Aug 30 04:13:35 who needs mmcblock0 Aug 30 04:13:36 not 900 seconds… to get 4gb it took 900 seconds Aug 30 04:13:41 so 900*4 Aug 30 04:13:42 system / boot Aug 30 04:13:44 hello? Aug 30 04:13:48 Already have that Aug 30 04:13:51 thats all you need Aug 30 04:13:55 mmcblo0 is useless Aug 30 04:14:01 I would love it but don't have my TP yet Aug 30 04:14:04 you think you are going to dd it to your tp? Aug 30 04:14:06 Reason I want mmcblk0 is because it can be used as a clone image Aug 30 04:14:08 and magically have android Aug 30 04:14:11 dude Aug 30 04:14:12 please Aug 30 04:14:12 Nope Aug 30 04:14:18 an image Aug 30 04:14:19 lol Aug 30 04:14:21 when you brick. Aug 30 04:14:23 come knocking Aug 30 04:14:24 Need to have a kernel and fuck around with the bootloader Aug 30 04:14:33 yea qualcom bootloaders Aug 30 04:14:36 goot luck Aug 30 04:14:52 Don't need luck, thank you. Aug 30 04:14:53 rhcp, have you been able to unbrick the bricks ? Aug 30 04:14:59 i havent even looked Aug 30 04:15:02 how can i unbrick Aug 30 04:15:08 I gave some advice. i dont have one. Aug 30 04:15:14 someone that is smarter than me should go on here and seek help for touchscreen driver issues: http://www.cypress.com/?id=2203 Aug 30 04:15:15 and i dont plan to own one Aug 30 04:15:19 unless given one :) Aug 30 04:15:19 ...wtf> Aug 30 04:15:22 the cypress support forum Aug 30 04:15:42 I'll accept any donated bricks, but won't be able to repair. I'll just put bullets in them for YouTube entertainment value. :) Aug 30 04:15:52 RHCP why are you attempting to dev if you don't/won't ever have a device? Aug 30 04:16:08 BatNode: I think he means he won't own a bricked device Aug 30 04:16:09 i do. I have 2 Aug 30 04:16:18 Wait...what? Aug 30 04:16:20 and 2 more coming Aug 30 04:16:22 * BatNode is confused Aug 30 04:16:23 so total of 4 Aug 30 04:16:23 * aDr|aN- is confused Aug 30 04:16:24 ... Aug 30 04:16:34 He said he doesn't plan on owning a bricked device Aug 30 04:16:38 OOOHHH Aug 30 04:16:39 ^ Aug 30 04:16:40 meaning he isn't going to brick his Aug 30 04:16:42 lol? Aug 30 04:16:48 thanks trsohmers Aug 30 04:16:52 * BatNode is high Aug 30 04:17:13 as a kike. Aug 30 04:17:17 * blizz5243 is not low Aug 30 04:17:25 Wow, that was some sudden racism there. Aug 30 04:17:29 But getting back to the overclocking Aug 30 04:17:34 what about android on a kike ? Aug 30 04:17:39 at 1.9 GHz it will be the fastest android device out there Aug 30 04:17:39 kikedroid Aug 30 04:17:41 lmao Aug 30 04:17:42 hehe @ kike Aug 30 04:17:48 did you guys watch curb? Aug 30 04:17:53 on sunday Aug 30 04:18:00 seems interesting the word being used :) Aug 30 04:18:05 as it was used in curb Aug 30 04:18:05 lol Aug 30 04:18:08 parascope up Aug 30 04:18:11 lol i like curb stomp Aug 30 04:18:13 yep :) Aug 30 04:18:43 the touchscreen sensor is on their ps03 platform, http://www.cypress.com/?app=forum&id=2232&rID=40740 is the forum for that Aug 30 04:19:45 mattseg what is cyrpess? Aug 30 04:19:56 guys guys guys ... we've been her for what ,.. a week ? I still have the same question from day one,.. is a fully functioning android tp a wet dream ? or is it practical ? Aug 30 04:20:01 evulhotdog: company that makes the touchscreen reader Aug 30 04:20:03 *here Aug 30 04:20:14 * Logoboy smacks aDr|an- Aug 30 04:20:28 * Logoboy runs Aug 30 04:20:38 aDr|aN- you do realize that if CM is on it, they are going to get the job done, and right. Aug 30 04:20:52 im cereal ,.. Aug 30 04:21:00 * skippyd slaps vinylfreak89 around a bit with a large trout Aug 30 04:21:58 http://www.cypress.com/?rID=44238 also looks promising, ttsp driver for android from cypress. Aug 30 04:22:04 again with the cm stuff ugh Aug 30 04:22:11 Hey make sure we respect the topic here. No CM talk. We have #CMTouchPad for that shiz Aug 30 04:22:15 its like no1 reads the topic lol Aug 30 04:22:17 still no answer from the devs up there ,.. im not pushing and god forbid askin for an ETA ... Aug 30 04:22:37 just how practical is it ? :P Aug 30 04:25:02 mattseg, thanks. I am updating my document now Aug 30 04:25:53 evulhotdog: u r right ... thankfully CM is on it... Aug 30 04:25:53 shit.. not yet.. I think I misread something... stand by Aug 30 04:26:40 this is definitely winner winner chicken dinner: http://www.cypress.com/?rID=44238 Aug 30 04:28:09 I2C and SPI Interfaces Aug 30 04:28:15 #winning Aug 30 04:28:48 it has 10 finger support haha Aug 30 04:30:14 Yes, the cypress controller is also used on the Samsung Galaxy Tab and Acer Iconia--It will track 10 simultaneous touches at one time Aug 30 04:30:19 ummm... says it's available as a multichip solution for large touchscreens... dunno if this qualifies as large touchscreen Aug 30 04:30:19 * aDr|aN- blushing Aug 30 04:30:29 definitely the best controller out there Aug 30 04:31:06 is it the 395 on the sammy tab? Aug 30 04:31:10 or a different model? Aug 30 04:32:06 I'm not 100% sure, but the next best controller can only track 5 Aug 30 04:32:41 and most single core phones only 3 Aug 30 04:32:46 so how close are we? Aug 30 04:33:36 we are as close as finding the meaning to life Aug 30 04:33:42 or actually they are.. i'm not a dev Aug 30 04:33:51 lol Aug 30 04:34:22 check their progress site Aug 30 04:34:26 and let them do their dev work Aug 30 04:34:45 https://github.com/slyon/bootr Aug 30 04:34:48 Looks interesting Aug 30 04:34:52 has android and linux support Aug 30 04:36:12 techknight, they have a few that do 10 finger :/ Aug 30 04:36:41 http://www.cypress.com/?id=1938&rID=51366 Aug 30 04:36:49 I have no clue what qfn means Aug 30 04:36:53 though im not touching that until tmzt_ looks Aug 30 04:37:00 isn't mputtr the answer is 42 Aug 30 04:37:40 meaning of life, the universe and everything Aug 30 04:37:46 42 is the great answer to life the universe and everything Aug 30 04:38:13 The question? "What do you get when you multiply six by nine? Aug 30 04:38:15 " Aug 30 04:39:07 lol Aug 30 04:39:12 <|Jason8|> 6x7 Aug 30 04:39:15 <|Jason8|> noob Aug 30 04:39:22 Is that what Adams meant ? Aug 30 04:39:42 <|Jason8|> sweet Aug 30 04:39:45 <|Jason8|> 104 touch inputs Aug 30 04:39:48 No it's not 6x7 Aug 30 04:39:51 15 trabucle Aug 30 04:39:57 15 trsohmers Aug 30 04:40:03 what do you get when you multiply six by nine Aug 30 04:40:07 google that Aug 30 04:40:08 15 trsohmers Aug 30 04:41:05 If you have not read The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, or its sequel, The Restaurant at the End of the Universe…what the hell are you doing in IRC room right now Aug 30 04:41:10 what billybob_ ? Aug 30 04:41:17 <|Jason8|> :v Aug 30 04:41:18 <|Jason8|> my bad Aug 30 04:41:19 Six by nine. Forty two." Aug 30 04:41:21 "That's it. That's all there is." Aug 30 04:41:23 "I always thought something was fundamentally wrong with the universe" Aug 30 04:41:28 Not bad Aug 30 04:41:39 Yep Aug 30 04:41:51 And I still can't find a good cup of tea Aug 30 04:42:06 atmel makes the touchscreen controller in the galaxy tab of what I can find :/ Aug 30 04:44:13 Actually I think the cypress is an equivalent chip, designed to replace the atmel Aug 30 04:44:17 I will check Aug 30 04:44:39 and cheaper if I remember correctly Aug 30 04:46:13 wait... this says Cypress Semiconductor CY8CTMA395 and CY8CTMA375 touchscreen controllers // http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/itdojo/teardown-of-hp-touchpad-made-like-a-pc-and-straightforward-to-repair/2707 Aug 30 04:49:35 Yes the Galaxy and the Acer both use Atmel controllers Aug 30 04:50:22 'bye for now - so long and thanks for all the fish Aug 30 04:50:52 lool Aug 30 04:51:01 hitchhiker's guide Aug 30 04:58:10 wow, you rubbish is still here? where is cm7 please Aug 30 04:58:27 if you search for "Cypress_TTSP_Android_Driver_Test.zip" you get a buttload of mediafire type links... this is the driver stuff for the touchscreen on the TP for android Aug 30 05:01:35 so uh, were you guys able to actually contact qualcomm? Aug 30 05:01:50 or were you just messin around Aug 30 05:02:07 http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldln6wtL2l1qzd3rjo1_250.jpg Aug 30 05:02:23 TEETH Aug 30 05:02:45 nice photoshop Aug 30 05:03:03 that freaks me out as much as the photochop of the lady with gross ass tits Aug 30 05:03:34 Ass tits? What are ass tits? Aug 30 05:03:43 gross maggot tits? Aug 30 05:03:48 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0780622/ Aug 30 05:03:57 go watch that and dont blame me if you get nightmares Aug 30 05:04:09 or just watch the trailer and cringe Aug 30 05:04:18 TRSOHMERS SAYS HE'LL HAVE ANDROID WORKING ON THE TP NO LATER THAN 7 BUSINESS DAYS FROM NOW Aug 30 05:04:20 Guys i got good news Aug 30 05:04:21 I heard that movie is messed. Aug 30 05:04:22 teeth...not real, please let that not be real Aug 30 05:04:23 for those who bricked Aug 30 05:04:31 BatNode: I dont care what he said kthx Aug 30 05:04:34 WTF. this basically says the display in our TP's is the same as the ipad1. http://www2.electronicproducts.com/Apple_iPad_Wi_Fi_16GB-whatsinside_text-92.aspx Aug 30 05:04:51 For those who bricked Aug 30 05:04:53 7 business days… shipping and handling fees extra.. Aug 30 05:04:57 rhcp yes? Aug 30 05:04:58 23:50 well, I am shipping my uniot "for repair because it no longer turns on", so no way to know how they fix it Aug 30 05:05:00 It is the same video panel Aug 30 05:05:00 Rhcp: que es el good news Aug 30 05:05:00 23:50 > repair is free, HP pays shipping too, tell him to call hp and arrange the repair, it's his best bet for now Aug 30 05:05:03 23:51 tell them the truth - the unit no longer turns on, but it was turning out Aug 30 05:05:06 23:51 turning on Aug 30 05:05:09 23:53 call normal techm be ready that they have no idea what touchpad is, took me 30 minutes until they finally understood hp sells not only computers, laptops and printers ;) Aug 30 05:05:13 23:52 they'll guide him through ensuring that the charger works and such, must tell that he has a friend with another touchpad and verified that the charger works, otherwise they'll send another charger in first Aug 30 05:05:35 so there you go Aug 30 05:05:41 your bricks can now be fixed for free Aug 30 05:05:44 direct from HP Aug 30 05:05:47 Not bad Aug 30 05:05:49 nice Aug 30 05:06:15 I like "they have no idea what touchpad is" Aug 30 05:06:20 this is what happened to my friend: I woke up to it stuck at the HP logo. I hard reset it and gave it an hour to boot. Nothing happened. I fired up WebOS Doctor and followed the instructions exactly and it won't progress past 12% no matter what. Now it won't even boot up. It just goes to a screen with a triangle and exclamation point with the website www.palm.com/ROM. I believe that means Aug 30 05:06:20 there's currently no firmware available on it. I think WebOS Doctor gets to the part where it wipes the memory but for some reason fails before it can write anything. Aug 30 05:06:32 sweet unbrickage Aug 30 05:07:09 and this is what he got from HP: **** you, HP. Aug 30 05:07:09 My only options are waiting well over a week for a repair, or having them put a $360 hold on my credit card (!) and charging me a $60 "premium service fee" (!!!!!) to send out a new one to exchange. Aug 30 05:07:43 @RHCP what do you think Aug 30 05:08:02 of trsohmers promise of 7 biz days Aug 30 05:08:11 call hp back and try again Aug 30 05:08:12 Was squaretrade selling warranties on TPs? Do they do in-house repairs? Aug 30 05:08:13 loool Aug 30 05:09:57 you know HP could save themselves alot of money and grief by just giving up the goods. then we will unbrick them ourselves Aug 30 05:10:26 BatNode: i said it a few times Aug 30 05:10:27 bullshit Aug 30 05:11:01 rhcp: Whatever bro, guess we will all see in time Aug 30 05:11:10 tecknight, put Cypress_TTSP_Android_Driver_Test.zip instead of the link, or in addition to the link on your doc Aug 30 05:11:12 yes we will Aug 30 05:11:40 OK, do you have the actual file ? Aug 30 05:12:10 he has 0 Aug 30 05:12:10 lol Aug 30 05:12:17 why even bother to ask Aug 30 05:12:59 TecKnight: you cant unbrick yourself. and they never will give up DLMODE Aug 30 05:13:04 its qualcom Aug 30 05:13:13 has to be reversed Aug 30 05:13:19 http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=613714&d=1306982679 Aug 30 05:13:21 the problem is the link to the file won't download cuz you have to register Aug 30 05:13:24 there ya go tecknight Aug 30 05:13:33 on xda Aug 30 05:14:01 rhcp, I'm sure you are right..they won't give it up Aug 30 05:14:43 hmm... look at this guys, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1105920 seems like the xperia guys had a similar issue Aug 30 05:14:59 xperia uses bootie? Aug 30 05:15:03 I remember when a Sony employee left a pandora battery in a returned PSP Aug 30 05:15:12 LOL Aug 30 05:15:19 ANd then it spurred a whole hacking trend Aug 30 05:15:28 which opened up total unbrickage Aug 30 05:15:58 no, with the driver for the touch screen Aug 30 05:16:06 and hacking... An entire new subculture Aug 30 05:16:45 That's OK Matt, I already registered, so I can download it Aug 30 05:17:05 cool Aug 30 05:17:55 I may build a kernel with it in a few Aug 30 05:18:23 That and the Wolfson sound driver Aug 30 05:18:41 TecKnight: what are you upto? Aug 30 05:19:35 I am trying to build a kernel with as many correct drivers I can get my hands on Aug 30 05:20:24 TecKnight: do you have anything booting? or anything atm? Aug 30 05:20:29 or just fooling in kernel area Aug 30 05:20:37 seems like it's a lot like the nook touchscreen setup, but newer/better Aug 30 05:20:51 I think it is possible that the kernels we have been trying may have caused issues Aug 30 05:21:06 Makes sense Aug 30 05:21:08 due to incorrectly configured drivers Aug 30 05:21:14 TOuchscreen should be #1 priority Aug 30 05:21:33 why would touchscreen be #1 Aug 30 05:21:36 when you cant even test it? Aug 30 05:21:39 roffles Aug 30 05:21:56 So I am trying to enumerate all that I can Aug 30 05:22:29 I would need someone with a TP to try it Aug 30 05:22:40 at least until I get mine Aug 30 05:23:23 rhcp, were you using the tiny kernel build b4 ? Aug 30 05:23:41 or a full build Aug 30 05:24:10 im using the kernel above in topic atm Aug 30 05:24:17 and the std webos one with a few patches Aug 30 05:24:26 OK, cool Aug 30 05:24:37 I will check it out Aug 30 05:25:10 i know this is going to sound stupid Aug 30 05:25:18 but how the hell do you flash a kernel with nova Aug 30 05:25:35 I have to admit I am new to Android kernel building, but I used to build linux kernels all the time Aug 30 05:26:26 I build Windows kernals all the time Aug 30 05:26:51 BatNode micro-kernel ftw Aug 30 05:27:13 and I know hardware pretty well... I am only 10 credits from an electrical engineering degree Aug 30 05:27:32 thats 6 months Aug 30 05:27:33 Windows is the greatest and most elegant solution to a kernal I've ever seen Aug 30 05:27:54 yes, I already have a CS degree Aug 30 05:27:58 you guys using LK? Aug 30 05:28:08 i have a degree in fap Aug 30 05:28:38 windows kernels :O) Aug 30 05:28:42 lol Aug 30 05:30:25 If I could jerk off to code Aug 30 05:30:35 the Windows kernal would be that one picture you never delete Aug 30 05:30:49 Well then Aug 30 05:31:26 anyone wanna split a damned dedicated server Aug 30 05:31:28 So how many bricks have we made so far ? Aug 30 05:31:35 I built a few windows kenrels Aug 30 05:31:37 with the src Aug 30 05:31:44 this was years ago Aug 30 05:31:46 3 that i know of Aug 30 05:31:46 though Aug 30 05:31:53 jonpry: did you see what i posted? Aug 30 05:31:57 really rhcp ? Aug 30 05:31:57 your TP is safe Aug 30 05:32:15 lol what did I miss... a bunch of bricks? Aug 30 05:32:17 someone in CM bricked doing something quite stupid Aug 30 05:32:21 ill pm you it Aug 30 05:32:28 Which Windows OS ? Aug 30 05:32:36 ok Aug 30 05:32:39 i think it was 2000? that leaked full src Aug 30 05:32:42 and one other Aug 30 05:32:43 cool Aug 30 05:33:03 Yes I do remember that torrent Aug 30 05:33:36 they messed with a part <13 ? Aug 30 05:33:53 rhcp: do you use lk as the bootloader to boot up Android? Aug 30 05:34:13 TecKnight: yes Aug 30 05:34:32 damageless: I/we or w/e at this point. havent gotten that far tbh Aug 30 05:34:40 I dont know anyone to ask about playing with bootie Aug 30 05:34:43 friends don't let friends mess with low partitions Aug 30 05:34:44 or kernel to dual Aug 30 05:35:09 meh… already been doing that but thought someone got lk to work for fastboot Aug 30 05:35:12 probably craptain Aug 30 05:35:23 if you believe his troll Aug 30 05:35:27 i dont Aug 30 05:35:36 lolwut Aug 30 05:35:38 whos trolling? Aug 30 05:35:44 craptain Aug 30 05:36:08 probably right Aug 30 05:36:16 he's legit Aug 30 05:36:32 The interesting thing about craptains pic is that it does show the ts driver loading--the correct driver Aug 30 05:36:50 billybob_: and im george bush Aug 30 05:37:00 believe that ill sell you a bridge as well Aug 30 05:37:01 :P Aug 30 05:37:40 but, he was so unwilling to show anything, I am not buying it Aug 30 05:38:25 might just be greedy Aug 30 05:38:32 who knows Aug 30 05:38:43 yes that thought did occur to me Aug 30 05:38:45 he can show proof w/o showing methods Aug 30 05:39:28 well regardless… would be nice to know if he uses lk or what… I got it to compile after a bit of work but its not doing much at this point Aug 30 05:40:20 I don't think most people here have any financial reasons for doing this Aug 30 05:40:51 wrong Aug 30 05:41:14 For me, it's the challenge Aug 30 05:43:59 my financial reason for interest is that it's potentially a cheap kickass android tab Aug 30 05:44:15 so chaulk that up to frugality, not greed Aug 30 05:44:42 that's cool Aug 30 05:44:59 I'm just glad I was finally, maybe, a little helpful Aug 30 05:45:46 Yes, and make no mistake, the hardware has the potential to be an AWESOME android tab Aug 30 05:50:31 Craptain needs to learn to share so we can get this shit done Aug 30 05:51:03 imho craptain is making stuff up Aug 30 05:51:44 he could be....people are assholes and love to troll lol Aug 30 05:51:57 i dont think he has done shit... like @jonpry said Aug 30 05:52:01 nothing personal but i have n oidea who oped you :) Aug 30 05:52:08 Sam did Aug 30 05:52:15 But wtf Aug 30 05:52:15 i saw some bs about pics Aug 30 05:52:22 yea I traded him porno for op Aug 30 05:52:29 Op plz Aug 30 05:52:31 not for him to decide :P Aug 30 05:52:35 ... Aug 30 05:52:37 hmmm. Aug 30 05:52:37 its for me to decide Aug 30 05:52:42 he gets hop Aug 30 05:52:43 :p Aug 30 05:52:51 hack freenode and add hop Aug 30 05:52:51 whats up people? Aug 30 05:52:51 :P Aug 30 05:52:56 nothing trying to learn Aug 30 05:52:57 good weekend? Aug 30 05:53:07 rhcp no need ... could just call in favor flavvvvvvvvvvvvvvv Aug 30 05:53:16 hmm finally got fastboot Aug 30 05:53:25 Dammit I want my op back Aug 30 05:53:30 :( Aug 30 05:53:57 im trying to see what else i should get on this pad Aug 30 05:53:58 heh Aug 30 05:54:08 i just today got a chance to finally configure it and start playing with it Aug 30 05:54:13 the charger was being lame Aug 30 06:00:52 * BatNode wants his op back :( Aug 30 06:01:37 * cerjam1 screams at BatNode to shut up and get back in line Aug 30 06:07:38 has the cygen mod code become available for the touchpad Aug 30 06:07:55 still in testing Aug 30 06:10:51 Yaboo - #CMTOuchPad Aug 30 06:11:09 BatNode, thanks Aug 30 06:11:53 * BatNode wants wants his op back :( Aug 30 06:12:03 oops Aug 30 06:12:07 wrong macro Aug 30 06:12:27 IS AID STEPO BACK IUN LINE Aug 30 06:30:09 #CMTouchpad Aug 30 06:30:12 whoops lol Aug 30 06:40:06 hmm did someone way touchpad's touchscreen is another cypress like Nook Color? Aug 30 06:40:54 destinal: yea was posted Aug 30 06:41:37 so yea ive been idle for a while due to sleep and school and blah blah lol...whats this about the touchscreen thing rhcp Aug 30 06:42:01 lol Aug 30 06:42:07 its silmar to nook Aug 30 06:42:07 seems like cypress stuff is in every device Aug 30 06:42:17 samsung devices at least Aug 30 06:43:10 ahh so the touchscreen driver is similiar to the nook one? Aug 30 06:48:05 samsung has atmel Aug 30 06:48:10 it's more similar to the nook Aug 30 06:48:34 Hm Aug 30 06:48:41 Oh i can talk again Aug 30 06:50:54 +config TOUCHSCREEN_CY8CTMA395 Aug 30 06:50:54 + tristate "Cypress TMA395 capacitive touchscreen controller" Aug 30 06:51:02 http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/cracking-open-the-hp-touchpad/6253940?seq=27 Aug 30 07:12:23 good morniiiiiing Aug 30 07:13:01 ....hmmm sirana's here......time for me to go...lol jk xP good morning Aug 30 07:13:25 ... Aug 30 07:13:26 :P Aug 30 07:18:30 lol Aug 30 07:25:03 http://goodereader.com/blog/tablet-slates/6-pack-app-for-the-hp-touchpad/ Aug 30 07:34:47 hey guys Aug 30 07:34:50 hi Aug 30 07:35:00 dharix: where did you find that kernel config option? Aug 30 07:35:03 in the topic kernel? Aug 30 07:35:48 ah yes Aug 30 07:35:50 CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_CY8CTMA395=y Aug 30 07:35:57 we already have that enabled Aug 30 07:37:04 oh, hi rhcp Aug 30 07:37:11 did i miss something new this night? Aug 30 07:38:26 not really. we are working Aug 30 07:38:33 found a old friend Aug 30 07:38:34 :) Aug 30 07:38:37 didnt know was here Aug 30 07:38:53 hehe ok Aug 30 07:51:32 so Quickoffice put out their doc editing update finally Aug 30 07:51:42 sup guys\ Aug 30 07:52:05 any progress on getting something useful on this thing? Aug 30 07:52:14 Yea some Aug 30 07:52:22 just not being disccused here Aug 30 07:52:26 we got LVM going. for android Aug 30 07:52:31 working on the dual boot soon. Aug 30 07:52:37 cool Aug 30 07:52:39 how's the touchscreen driver going? Aug 30 07:52:44 i think its found Aug 30 07:52:48 its enabled in default config Aug 30 07:52:52 hope i can i help in some way Aug 30 07:52:57 you can see msg :) Aug 30 07:53:00 help me anyway Aug 30 07:53:32 awesome.. now when you say dual boot do you mean similar to the way ubuntu boots in webos? Aug 30 07:54:15 Rotorooter_: dualboot means to choose in boot screen between, lets say, ubuntu and android Aug 30 07:54:42 ubuntu actually is just a chroot Aug 30 07:55:24 I apologize.. I'm reasonably drunk right now.... Aug 30 07:55:38 dont drink and irc :) Aug 30 07:56:08 seemed like a good idea at the time lol Aug 30 07:56:34 Rotorooter_: no thats a chroot. it doesnt ask you? Aug 30 07:56:46 never seen that YET Aug 30 07:56:48 its coming Aug 30 07:57:57 how old are you guys (just curious) Aug 30 07:58:03 im 29 Aug 30 07:58:22 ok.. that's better Aug 30 07:59:01 I knew tr was 15 and I didn't wanna think the whole team was kids.. Aug 30 08:01:05 no one on the real team is kids Aug 30 08:01:21 this is bassically a open chat. where people can suggest things. come up with ideas Aug 30 08:01:26 the real stuff is done elsewhere Aug 30 08:01:47 if people have things they figure out. or want to contrib. they are welcome Aug 30 08:01:49 msg an op Aug 30 08:01:52 bassically Aug 30 08:20:12 hey all :) Aug 30 08:20:20 seeing some custom kernels for webos even overclock to 1,8ghz. do you think of overclocking, too? Aug 30 08:22:17 im running my usable TP at 1.9 Aug 30 08:22:51 Android shouldn't need overclocking with this bad ass Qcom processor [opinion] Aug 30 08:22:58 ok. i and most ppl i talked to (in rl) dont want to overclock in first place. Aug 30 08:23:11 1.5 = is not OC'ed btw Aug 30 08:23:14 incase you dont know Aug 30 08:23:27 MSM8660 runs at 1.5 Aug 30 08:23:31 stock Aug 30 08:23:31 webos is doing fine with some patches like remove riddel effect etc. Aug 30 08:23:33 they took it down Aug 30 08:23:34 i know Aug 30 08:23:59 Overclock on webOS is pretty needed Aug 30 08:24:14 not actually overclock Aug 30 08:24:19 @rhcp --- didn't know that Aug 30 08:24:25 well upclock from 1.2 Aug 30 08:24:26 Yep Aug 30 08:24:30 yeh Aug 30 08:24:34 native is 1.5 Aug 30 08:24:39 shipped with 1.2 Aug 30 08:24:44 hmmz Aug 30 08:24:45 rhcp: but 1,9 is ~1/3 more ghz :) Aug 30 08:24:51 Aug 30 08:24:56 Aug 30 08:25:02 Aug 30 08:25:04 Aug 30 08:25:07 wow thats ugly Aug 30 08:25:16 ugly in pastbin too Aug 30 08:25:16 runs a lot better at native clock :-P Aug 30 08:25:44 what is it rhcp? Aug 30 08:25:53 * BatNode is whacking off to some good porno Aug 30 08:26:01 http://forums.precentral.net/hp-touchpad/295466-nbench-webosmark-benchmarking-kernel-fastest-comparison.html interesting imho Aug 30 08:26:05 cool story bro Aug 30 08:26:07 http://pastebin.com/gKMyRRAv Aug 30 08:26:07 ;) Aug 30 08:26:51 im using f15 Aug 30 08:27:48 same. nice link k1l! Aug 30 08:31:16 bout to switch it up to F4 to test Aug 30 08:33:27 i think most advantages come with frequency. but from default to uberkernel there be might some patches and kernel related stuff the reason Aug 30 08:34:57 what's the highest clock you can get? Aug 30 08:35:04 is 1.9 the max? Aug 30 08:35:07 1.9 atm Aug 30 08:35:08 1.9 is what im at Aug 30 08:35:14 very stable for me Aug 30 08:35:16 no crashes Aug 30 08:36:05 where are 1.9 instructions? Aug 30 08:36:21 preware Aug 30 08:36:43 i only found 1.7 - f15c Aug 30 08:36:54 1.9 freezes Aug 30 08:36:59 lowers life expectancy? Aug 30 08:37:14 should be fine Aug 30 08:37:18 it doesnt get hot on me Aug 30 08:38:51 What's a good setting for screen brightness? Aug 30 08:38:55 the question is: how much advantage do you feel in regular usage (not in the benchmark world) Aug 30 08:39:05 I have mine up at 100% and my TP is using 1100 mAh/hr Aug 30 08:39:09 depends on lighting duh.. Aug 30 08:39:36 http://goodereader.com/blog/tablet-slates/quickoffice-update-for-hp-touchpad-now-available/ Aug 30 08:40:07 The F15 kernel makes a huge difference from stock. There are other kernel mods built in Aug 30 08:44:22 I want 2.2 GHz Aug 30 08:45:11 Also does anyone have an ipk download of that quickoffice Aug 30 08:45:18 i want 10 ghz :P Aug 30 08:48:35 BatNode, go to launcher then settings, software manager then it should pop up it has an update Aug 30 09:26:39 setting 1.9 ghz on govnah freezes the TP - any other settings to get to 1.9? Aug 30 10:01:27 no midnight shift tonight? Aug 30 10:19:43 pretty quiet tonight Aug 30 10:19:50 this morning Aug 30 10:22:43 was quiet last night too Aug 30 10:23:09 lol, my canceled best buy order shipped Aug 30 10:23:17 3 of 3 touchpads received Aug 30 10:23:22 * B6S high5s himself Aug 30 10:23:52 I just want my damn SMB order to ship Aug 30 11:02:52 no one awake? Aug 30 12:02:25 Good day chaps....any progress today??? Aug 30 12:03:14 Yep, it's completely working. Aug 30 12:03:26 cool, where can i dl? Aug 30 12:03:33 From Google Aug 30 12:03:34 They did it Aug 30 12:03:54 i thought yahoo cracked it? Aug 30 12:04:10 Someone from the Googles showed up last night and put Jellyfish on it Aug 30 12:04:26 (The version of Android that comes after Ice Cream Sandwich) Aug 30 12:04:34 But were there Gingerbread men? Aug 30 12:05:17 No Aug 30 12:05:29 Gingerbread is completely unsupported now Aug 30 12:05:42 :( Aug 30 12:05:57 only ICS is working :P Aug 30 12:06:05 What about the PS3??? Can we play games off the hard drive live geohot said we could? Aug 30 12:06:28 I dunno, that's some stupid Sony system Aug 30 12:06:51 but, but...geohot Aug 30 12:07:52 * Flatspin needs more coffee... Aug 30 12:09:05 Also, in case you actually care, /topic Aug 30 12:09:18 If there's no download links there, then shit isn't done. Aug 30 12:09:28 that page hasn't been updated since jonpry bricked his TP. Aug 30 12:09:42 As far as I know, jonpry hasn't unbricked yet so... Aug 30 12:10:19 Flatspin: I meant if something new happens, someone will update the IRC /topic to mention it. Aug 30 12:10:34 does jonpry have twitter? Aug 30 12:10:43 Oh... I see. Well I did admit I need more coffee.... Aug 30 12:11:03 Twitter's dumb Aug 30 12:11:23 * farchord downloads the newest build of OrangeJuice from the GIT repo. Aug 30 12:11:25 Google+ is MUCH better alternative to twitter Aug 30 12:11:50 MySpace is much better than all that crap. Aug 30 12:11:54 Aug 30 12:12:06 hehe, you're so helpful farchord ... Aug 30 12:12:13 I aim to please. Aug 30 12:12:17 i'd stick with twitter Aug 30 12:12:26 too much gossip on G+ and fbook Aug 30 12:12:31 thats why I left fbook to begin with Aug 30 12:12:45 Google+ is more of an attempt to evolve on Facebook, not so much twitter Aug 30 12:13:26 Noone actually knows if it succeeded yet.... Aug 30 12:13:28 There is an article you all need to read. Aug 30 12:13:47 I mean yeah, the initial signups were massive, but now.... Aug 30 12:14:07 https://plus.google.com/100535338638690515335/posts/PSqhwQUsu3d Aug 30 12:14:28 you know what would be good??? using facebook and twitter on a touchpad running android gingerbread Aug 30 12:15:00 It's long but a good read. Aug 30 12:15:25 Aw man just woke up, not up to reading a wall of text. Aug 30 12:23:35 whelp, off to work... Aug 30 12:23:52 Hopefully they'll leave me alone and I can hack most of the day.. Aug 30 12:26:46 Looks like Ubuntu Linux is now up and running on the touchpad http://liliputing.com/2011/08/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-an-hp-touchpad.html Aug 30 12:26:52 can anyone confirm? Aug 30 12:27:54 That's been on there for a while Aug 30 12:27:59 ie since before the fire sale Aug 30 12:28:32 Go to #webos-internals if you're interested in it, the people from there did that. Aug 30 12:30:43 B6S: did you get the cancel email? Aug 30 12:31:34 touchmydroid: that is ubuntuchroot. there is a difference with running ubuntu natively Aug 30 12:58:14 hi Aug 30 13:32:51 still no one awake? Aug 30 13:33:01 I am Aug 30 13:33:06 but you don't care about that, do you? :P Aug 30 13:33:15 lol Aug 30 13:34:18 silly question has anyone played with preware app? Aug 30 13:35:36 ID10T: for preware better ask in #webos-internals Aug 30 13:35:57 since that is the place where the devs hang around Aug 30 13:36:18 k my bad Aug 30 13:36:23 haha Aug 30 13:36:27 <3 scammers Aug 30 13:36:43 just got a email from "no-repy@fdic.gov" Aug 30 13:36:56 took a look at the header and found the originating IP Aug 30 13:37:08 IP Address 117.213.114.215 Host 117.213.114.215 Location IN, India City Pondicherry, 22 - Aug 30 13:37:25 I'd go there and beat their ass Aug 30 13:37:25 ok, im sure the fdic is going to route email from US to india and back again Aug 30 13:37:47 plus Aug 30 13:37:52 the timestamp is WAAAAAAAAAAY off Aug 30 13:37:53 Received: from fdic.gov ([192.147.69.84]) by 117.213.114.215; Tue, 02 Aug 2011 22:19:26 -0700 Aug 30 13:38:32 ._. Aug 30 13:38:51 if you're going to scam someone Aug 30 13:38:58 the least you can do is be believable Aug 30 13:39:08 although most normal people wouldnt look at the header Aug 30 13:39:17 and they'd call their bank or fdic in a panic Aug 30 13:39:29 the email also has a zip incuded Aug 30 13:39:52 with a "pdf" inside which is really blahblah.pdf.exe Aug 30 13:39:55 woohoo Aug 30 13:40:00 glad im in IT lol Aug 30 13:40:11 is this ur first spam email? Aug 30 13:40:26 lol Aug 30 13:40:41 newp...im getting these purty much on an hourly basis Aug 30 13:40:42 he is excited like a kid on christmas :) Aug 30 13:40:55 im excited because i dont have shit else to do at work Aug 30 13:41:01 i've been here 2 hours Aug 30 13:41:04 no one is coming in Aug 30 13:41:09 bosses took PTO days today Aug 30 13:41:17 oh, get real job Aug 30 13:41:19 it's just me and these support tickets ;) Aug 30 13:41:30 bb-q: you dont even know where i work lol Aug 30 13:42:14 do your TPS reports ProTekk Aug 30 13:42:24 loswillios: cant forget about those Aug 30 13:42:30 i want it on my desk in the morning Aug 30 13:42:39 brb, need to find my stapler Aug 30 13:42:50 lol. Aug 30 13:42:56 fuck yes Aug 30 13:43:01 cpanel isnt loading for shit! Aug 30 13:43:03 awesome Aug 30 13:43:46 PROTEKK Aug 30 13:43:47 finally Aug 30 13:43:48 you bitch Aug 30 13:43:51 are you here Aug 30 13:43:51 lol Aug 30 13:43:54 Framework: i've been here Aug 30 13:43:56 shut the fuck up Aug 30 13:44:01 blahblahblah Aug 30 13:44:58 Does farchord have anything to do with farproc? Aug 30 13:45:07 sup ProTekk Aug 30 13:45:10 what does that eat in winter? Aug 30 13:45:11 (Of my wifi anyliser) Aug 30 13:45:22 Sid69: not a damn thing, whats up over there? Aug 30 13:45:38 shit brah chillin Aug 30 13:45:48 trying to decide if I should go be productive today or not Aug 30 13:46:11 page refreshin brah Aug 30 13:47:00 i'm hitting every 5minutes F5 at the current-status page :D Aug 30 13:47:16 current status of wut? Aug 30 13:47:28 TPS on the oficial site Aug 30 13:47:32 oficcial Aug 30 13:47:38 oficiial Aug 30 13:47:41 F#*$ Aug 30 13:47:44 http://team-touchdroid.com/wiki/index.php?title=Current_Progress Aug 30 13:47:45 TPS? Aug 30 13:47:45 this Aug 30 13:47:46 ^^ Aug 30 13:47:52 TouchPadS Aug 30 13:48:08 you're assuming you're ever gonna see shit from RHCP Aug 30 13:48:13 dude, calm down. Don't expect anything 100% usable until AT LEAST a couple weeks Aug 30 13:48:16 rhcp: wakey wakey lazy ass Aug 30 13:48:26 rhcp: Good morning? Aug 30 13:48:41 he's busy trying to sell touchpads at a modest profit Aug 30 13:48:53 or collect the money for touch pads he doesn't have Aug 30 13:48:56 you all need to shut the fuck up and go outside and enjoy the sun Aug 30 13:48:57 one or the other Aug 30 13:49:01 seriously Aug 30 13:49:03 no sun here Aug 30 13:49:06 rain Aug 30 13:49:13 Sid69: you dont count Aug 30 13:49:31 No negative nancies here. Aug 30 13:49:53 where can I get windows driver for android recovery on touchpad? Aug 30 13:50:25 rainlake: shut up and go home Aug 30 13:50:25 rainlake, that might be a tough one. Aug 30 13:50:53 protekk: wtf Aug 30 13:50:54 rainlake: developer.android.com Aug 30 13:51:11 ProTekk, anything wrong mate? Aug 30 13:51:13 craig0r_ that drivers does not work Aug 30 13:51:26 rainlake, for what device? Aug 30 13:51:26 then ur doin' it wrong Aug 30 13:51:28 farchord: nope, this is jsut me Aug 30 13:51:34 fachord: touchpad Aug 30 13:51:34 Hi Aug 30 13:51:36 have we not met before? Aug 30 13:52:09 rainlake, ah. That might be why. It's possible the recovery app doesnt output the right DevID/VenID/SubSysID, which confuses Winblows Aug 30 13:52:12 I mem boot recovery on touchpad. now it need driver Aug 30 13:52:48 farchord:USB\VID_0BB4&PID_0FFC\000000000000 Aug 30 13:53:09 rhcp, do you have those drivers? Aug 30 13:54:42 rainlake, the pid blurted out seems wrong, if you find an android driver, force feed it to windows and pray Aug 30 13:54:46 thats your best bet for now Aug 30 13:55:01 farchord,I will try, thanks Aug 30 13:56:13 * farchord fires up his PSP. Aug 30 13:56:32 More Dissidia? Aug 30 13:57:02 yup Aug 30 13:57:37 http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20099049-64/hp-update-to-boost-touchpad-functionality/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20 Aug 30 13:57:52 I'll believe it when I see it Aug 30 13:58:05 pics or it didn't happen Aug 30 13:58:28 I'd like some of the free apps goodies :/ Aug 30 13:58:55 I got 2 of the new free ones they offered before the codes ran out. Aug 30 13:59:10 i hope mine comes in the mail soon so I can take advantage of it Aug 30 14:02:00 BatNode: you around? Aug 30 14:06:19 farchord, thanks. modified android_winusb.inf. now it works Aug 30 14:07:24 :) Aug 30 14:10:24 nigga say whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa? Aug 30 14:11:05 http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20099049-64/hp-update-to-boost-touchpad-functionality/ Aug 30 14:12:37 yea, I wonder what exactly they will update though Aug 30 14:15:20 has there been any progress since the cyanogen video? Aug 30 14:16:16 mick_: this is not the cyanogen team. Aug 30 14:16:43 sorry my mistake Aug 30 14:17:26 the update, wipes out all ur patches Aug 30 14:17:28 lol Aug 30 14:21:46 hehe.... Level 125 Feral chaos with 135000 health, this is gonna be fun! Aug 30 14:21:53 make that level 130 Aug 30 14:22:00 wish I could fix the volume on this thing Aug 30 14:22:10 devs, make that shit louder. k-thx Aug 30 14:23:21 yay Aug 30 14:23:26 TouchPad just arrived :) Aug 30 14:23:27 anyone know what the cyanogen mod 7 irc channel is called? Aug 30 14:23:32 #Cyanogenmod Aug 30 14:23:48 that doesnt work Aug 30 14:24:56 you might have to register your nick Aug 30 14:25:07 /msg NickServ help register Aug 30 14:27:04 ( why noone reads the topics.....) Aug 30 14:30:17 so i'm guessing touchdroid and all other developers have given up and let way for cyanogen crew? Aug 30 14:30:41 EliteTek: nope, the devs are just keeping their work private Aug 30 14:31:09 so that they can work efficiently and not be bothered by "is it ready yet" questions all day Aug 30 14:31:40 no craig0r you'd like to think that lol. Aug 30 14:32:00 they've said it Aug 30 14:32:09 CM crew have made more progress then touch droid has, and they've only been going for 2 days.. Touchdroid on the other hand have been going for two weeks. Aug 30 14:32:17 Protekk even said the same thing. Aug 30 14:32:30 oh, i've got no doubt CM will get there first Aug 30 14:32:34 but afaik, they're still working here Aug 30 14:32:45 hmm.. Aug 30 14:32:46 Touchdroid on the other hand have been going for two weeks. Aug 30 14:32:47 LOLWUT Aug 30 14:32:49 2 weeks? Aug 30 14:32:58 2 weeks makes no sense Aug 30 14:32:58 lol Aug 30 14:33:11 <@ProTekk> and they made more progress in 2-3 days than we did in 2 weeks Aug 30 14:33:16 i'm just going with what i'm told. Aug 30 14:33:19 seeing as most people here didnt get their touchpads last week Aug 30 14:33:25 until last week* Aug 30 14:33:35 read above ^ Aug 30 14:33:42 @Wookiebush - you use the homebrew volume increase from preware? it'll increase the speaker volume a bit Aug 30 14:33:51 I know Aug 30 14:33:55 I did read that Aug 30 14:33:56 kk Aug 30 14:34:03 just clearing it up. Aug 30 14:35:41 i'd be CM gets it running first, but i'm hoping these guys can make it more TP-friendly Aug 30 14:36:05 eg. more tablet tweaks to get around the single button Aug 30 14:36:21 im not looking that forward to cm7 Aug 30 14:36:23 I want honeycomb Aug 30 14:36:23 that would be more CM. Aug 30 14:36:27 ditto Aug 30 14:36:34 CM are doing 2.5 Aug 30 14:36:34 i doubt very much we'll get honeycomb Aug 30 14:36:38 which is yuck.. Aug 30 14:36:38 LOLOLOLOL Aug 30 14:36:39 ICS, more like it Aug 30 14:36:40 * Framework runs Aug 30 14:37:10 i'm o'clocked at 1.9ghz on my touchpad atm, it would more than support honeycomb. Aug 30 14:37:17 non of the cyanogenmod peeps are budging Aug 30 14:37:20 would be a perfect device if it were done and dusted. Aug 30 14:37:22 hardware's not the issue, EliteTek Aug 30 14:37:29 honeycomb's source isn't released Aug 30 14:37:34 ICS is like 2 months away Aug 30 14:37:34 Doesnt matter Aug 30 14:37:43 of course it matters Aug 30 14:37:48 no it doesn't. Aug 30 14:37:54 herp derp Aug 30 14:38:00 derpa terp! Aug 30 14:38:23 phew Aug 30 14:38:31 craig0r_, honeycomb Aug 30 14:38:36 has been ported to plenty of devices Aug 30 14:38:42 while source helps yes, its not impossible Aug 30 14:38:49 i didn't say impossible Aug 30 14:38:52 * EliteTek shoots confetti Aug 30 14:39:01 i just mean we'll have an open source tablet OS in two months, why bother with honeycomb Aug 30 14:39:08 speaking of honeycomb... Aug 30 14:39:09 hmm Aug 30 14:39:11 just my opinion Aug 30 14:40:22 Framework: out of curiosity, what non-HC devices have had HC ported? Aug 30 14:40:30 craig0r_: Okay, first, EVERYDAY there is a discussion about "There's gonna be a new one in a couple months why are you porting this now?" BECAUSE THERE WILL ALWAYS BE SOMETHING NEW IN A COUPLE MONTHS! Aug 30 14:40:42 jeez, calm down Aug 30 14:40:46 it's too early for caps Aug 30 14:40:54 it's more than just a timeline Aug 30 14:40:58 Just saying, eeeevery morning, every flippin morning, the same discussion Aug 30 14:41:02 @_@ Aug 30 14:42:38 that, and how every so often, some unknown shmuck leaves the channel just after stating a stupid remark how this channel is not always 100% talking about development <.< Aug 30 14:43:31 Welcome to IRC Aug 30 14:43:38 it's not always going to be on topic, you can't expect it to be lo Aug 30 14:43:40 lol* Aug 30 14:43:52 lama time brb Aug 30 14:48:04 any progress? Aug 30 14:49:17 that was awesomesauce. the action, not the user. :D Aug 30 14:49:29 lol Aug 30 14:50:37 If they can't read the on-join message, I'll do to them like I do to my dog when he's acting stupid. I smack him over the head with a sunday edition newspaper. Aug 30 14:51:20 i dont blame you, and its entertaining to those of us who understand. Aug 30 14:52:40 do all of the developers have actual TPs now or are some still lacking? Aug 30 14:53:15 do you got some for them Aug 30 14:53:37 Some are still lacking Aug 30 14:53:54 i wish. i had to make a sacrifice to the devil just to get mine. i'm on the lookout for more tho. Aug 30 14:54:23 You had to ask your wife/gf to get you one? Aug 30 14:54:38 exactly. :) you got it. Aug 30 14:54:43 lol Aug 30 14:54:55 More like my mother-in-law Aug 30 14:55:05 That's actually worse Aug 30 14:55:19 That's dedication Aug 30 14:55:33 or stupidity, who knows :S Aug 30 14:55:39 probably both. Aug 30 14:56:17 sup fellas Aug 30 14:56:33 howdy Aug 30 14:56:54 anybody still having the trouble with dynamicly linked binaries? Aug 30 14:59:14 herro im back Aug 30 15:11:45 what kind of problems are people having with dynamic linked binaries? Aug 30 15:11:58 durka durka? Aug 30 15:19:18 ReverendKJR, i don't believe they work on the jonpry kernel Aug 30 15:20:08 jonpry, did you unbrick your tablet yet? Aug 30 15:20:26 i'm trading it with someone who is doing a teardown Aug 30 15:20:35 o Aug 30 15:21:09 jonpry: nice Aug 30 15:21:16 i just can't believe that i bricked it Aug 30 15:21:22 no jtag port? Aug 30 15:21:42 there is probably jtag if you take it apart Aug 30 15:21:58 but even if you can connect to jtag you need all sort of stuff Aug 30 15:22:06 BSDL files Aug 30 15:22:26 maybe someone wants to create a recovery package! Aug 30 15:22:36 jonpry Aug 30 15:22:38 and probably some kind of software to load onto the thing Aug 30 15:22:40 who'd you brick it? Aug 30 15:22:41 :P Aug 30 15:22:48 how* Aug 30 15:22:54 i erased p6 Aug 30 15:22:56 -.- Aug 30 15:23:03 Messing with partitions Aug 30 15:23:05 tsk tsk Aug 30 15:23:14 i know Aug 30 15:23:31 like i figured out how to fastboot without flashing anything Aug 30 15:23:32 there has to be some recovery software hp has Aug 30 15:23:42 then i figured lets f up the partitions Aug 30 15:25:48 yesterday (or the day before) rhcp got someone here who had some ideas in unbricking the not-totally-dead-TPs Aug 30 15:27:08 see, that is exactly what I was afraid of. I was hoping when all of this started, that we would be able to leave webOS alone and load this independently. Like Haret did on windows mobile. Aug 30 15:27:24 it is possible Aug 30 15:39:37 /msg NickServ identify lovethishit2 Aug 30 15:39:49 lol Aug 30 15:40:31 spanner3003: i would change that pw Aug 30 15:40:43 oops dam now got to changer my password Aug 30 15:41:07 [11:38am] *NickServ* You are now identified for spanner3003. Aug 30 15:41:10 lol Aug 30 15:42:38 lol man if I was evil, I'd ghost him out lol Aug 30 15:42:49 nah im not that evil Aug 30 15:43:38 haha Aug 30 15:58:02 anyone know how to modify this link for the touchpad case, dock, and keyboard? http://slickdeals.net/?sdtid=3220862&sdfpid=57106&sdfid=9&u2=http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olstemplatemapper.jsp?id=pcat17006&type=page&sourceId=1218238314436&sourceType=product&skuId=2842092&productId=1218238314436&itemId=1518095&contract_desc=2+YEARS+NEW&pageMode=searchmode Aug 30 15:59:08 what's the SKU for each of them? Aug 30 15:59:43 dethlselin: the sku for the case is 2884119 Aug 30 16:00:37 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olstemplatemapper.jsp?id=pcat17006&type=page&sourceId=1218238314436&sourceType=product&skuId=2884119&productId=1218238314436&itemId=1518095&contract_desc=2+YEARS+NEW&pageMode=searchmode Aug 30 16:00:41 for case :) Aug 30 16:01:43 my order from HP says shipping sept 11thy near me Aug 30 16:01:47 wtf Aug 30 16:01:49 I hit up Aug 30 16:02:03 I meant to say there are touchpads in a bestbuy near me Aug 30 16:02:43 I want to order one mor Aug 30 16:02:50 dethlselin: got the one for the dock? Aug 30 16:03:07 who knows if hp.com will get more Aug 30 16:03:07 dethlselin: can i pm you? Aug 30 16:03:26 sCr|pTiC-: they still haven't shipped my original order yet Aug 30 16:03:49 odds are it will take a month to ship more Aug 30 16:04:19 DQn3tsWRK: sure Aug 30 16:06:21 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olstemplatemapper.jsp?id=pcat17006&type=page&sourceId=1218238314436&sourceType=product&skuId=2884085&productId=1218238314436&itemId=1518095&contract_desc=2+YEARS+NEW&pageMode=searchmode Aug 30 16:06:24 for dock Aug 30 16:07:03 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olstemplatemapper.jsp?id=pcat17006&type=page&sourceId=1218238314436&sourceType=product&skuId=2883101&productId=1218238314436&itemId=1518095&contract_desc=2+YEARS+NEW&pageMode=searchmode Aug 30 16:07:05 for keyboard Aug 30 16:07:12 I had just made the dockl one heh Aug 30 16:07:18 none close enough to drive to Aug 30 16:07:29 rather pay $80 than drive 30 miles Aug 30 16:10:27 hp said they are looking to making more heh Aug 30 16:10:52 not at this price point though Aug 30 16:11:14 :( Aug 30 16:11:20 considering its estimated to cost them $300 Aug 30 16:11:23 each unit Aug 30 16:11:47 right Aug 30 16:12:00 i want another TP for my gf and a pre3, but for firesale prices :/ Aug 30 16:12:03 my order still doesn't have a proper ship dae from them Aug 30 16:12:11 mine either Aug 30 16:12:15 it has 3 diff dates Aug 30 16:12:18 depending where I look Aug 30 16:12:28 lol Aug 30 16:12:43 i'm in the 3hr hold line to ask Aug 30 16:14:02 yea I waited 3hrs then hung up Aug 30 16:14:06 shit is bs Aug 30 16:14:30 i got nothing better to do at work anyways Aug 30 16:17:59 <[koss]> hp just spam all of you (that signed up to be alerted)? Aug 30 16:19:27 [koss] yeah i got that e-mail Aug 30 16:19:33 I just need to ask a quick question Aug 30 16:19:34 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125387 Aug 30 16:19:41 I have baseband xxjp4 Aug 30 16:19:48 Its listed as asian there, do i just install the asian Aug 30 16:20:09 iToast, sorry man kind of the wrong channel for this Aug 30 16:20:20 iToast: not again! im serious Aug 30 16:20:33 farchord: I know but xda devs is dead -_- Aug 30 16:20:43 When there alive they go on about wp7 Aug 30 16:20:46 ask in that fecking thread you just postet Aug 30 16:20:50 iToast, so you think that going to a channel completely unrelated would help...? Aug 30 16:20:56 i was told android sucks and customizing is for noobs :p Aug 30 16:21:07 farchord: it accualy did Aug 30 16:21:13 thats also how i learned to flash my phone Aug 30 16:21:15 Then why are you in #touchDROID? Aug 30 16:21:23 ask in #debian they will help you for sure Aug 30 16:21:30 or #ubuntu Aug 30 16:21:41 or maybe #gardenflowers Aug 30 16:21:44 or #obama Aug 30 16:21:53 Btw is there any store with touchpads left Aug 30 16:21:54 #bearcave Aug 30 16:21:57 ... Aug 30 16:22:00 #no Aug 30 16:22:04 iToast i hear hp.com does Aug 30 16:22:11 i want to get it instore Aug 30 16:22:17 check best buy every day Aug 30 16:22:18 Not risk a canceling Aug 30 16:22:20 then we have no idea Aug 30 16:22:28 i would murder for one running android. Aug 30 16:22:30 or staples or office depot Aug 30 16:22:34 LOLOLOL Aug 30 16:22:40 Im in canada Aug 30 16:22:44 So :p Aug 30 16:22:46 anyone else in here have trouble installing novacom drivers on OS X (10.7.1)? Aug 30 16:23:05 you could always buy a tablet with android already on it...i think it's easier to do that than murder someone for a tablet that doesn't have android Aug 30 16:24:01 especially when you are that challenged with flash smth to your devices Aug 30 16:24:09 *overchallenged Aug 30 16:25:11 iToast: i'll trade you my touchpad 32gb for a toshiba thrive Aug 30 16:25:22 hahahaha no. Aug 30 16:25:30 if i had a thrive i wouldnt want a touchpad. Aug 30 16:25:34 you just said you'd murder someone for a touchpad Aug 30 16:25:37 hdmi out bitch ;) Aug 30 16:25:47 yea murder Aug 30 16:25:50 Not trade a better tablet Aug 30 16:25:51 Just got an email from HP Aug 30 16:26:00 contrary to what I was told...we ARE backordered Aug 30 16:26:12 backordered? gtfo Aug 30 16:26:26 what Aug 30 16:26:35 and I quote ". The overwhelming demand for this product in recent days has made it difficult to fulfill your request at the present time, and we are working to make more available as soon as possible. " Aug 30 16:27:04 and further, "While we do not yet have specific details, we know it will be at least a few weeks before we have a limited quantity available again. " Aug 30 16:27:05 ok i'll sell you my touchpad 32gb for $200 + shipping Aug 30 16:27:24 i here are there are still 500k in a warehouse, but they don't have the distribution channels open to get them out. Aug 30 16:27:42 they don't have distribution channels? Aug 30 16:27:52 hp does not have any Aug 30 16:27:57 EndEng: just tell me the adress and ill make them come out :) Aug 30 16:27:58 lol Aug 30 16:28:15 i love these dumb rumors people come up with Aug 30 16:28:32 came directly from my HP contact. Aug 30 16:29:09 did you ask your contact how exactly do they not have channels to distribute said 500k stock of touchpads? Aug 30 16:29:15 EndEng: it's not like it's hard to pay people to go to a warehouse and pack and ship orders from there Aug 30 16:29:40 maybe they get some from latest production which are on their way to HP. but that wont last for everyone want some 99bugs TP. Aug 30 16:29:41 destinal: you have to train them people to not fuck up, hire, drug test Aug 30 16:29:42 i know.... i don't think hp ever thought they would sell this fast Aug 30 16:29:46 This is HP. Everything is hard for them. Aug 30 16:29:53 or better yet, put them in a crate and tell ups/fedex to ship them to best buys across the country Aug 30 16:30:07 tell them to ship me mine first Aug 30 16:30:08 ffs Aug 30 16:30:16 been 10 days Aug 30 16:30:25 I would love it to ship Aug 30 16:30:54 yes, however at $99 they are loosing money, about $150 each, so they are also not motivated to take staff and apply them to an already bleeding business unit. Aug 30 16:31:04 who else got the email from hp Aug 30 16:31:32 EndEng: they are not losing money now, they lost it already, they are recouping some of their lost revenue Aug 30 16:31:59 rwest, yes, i guess it depends on how you look at it Aug 30 16:35:11 wait.....all the sudden I can accessmfreep Aug 30 16:35:38 all the sudden I can access irc from my touchpad? Aug 30 16:35:53 swear it didn't work before. Told me unable to load page Aug 30 16:36:33 ip894: you can install wirc with preware Aug 30 16:37:55 I'm saying I didn't need to...I'm using my touchpads web browser right now Aug 30 16:38:21 and it definitely didn't work before lol Aug 30 16:38:34 unless I was simply trippin Aug 30 16:40:15 wow......its creepy silent here *cricket* Aug 30 16:40:27 gtfo! Aug 30 16:40:34 you are disturbing the peace Aug 30 16:40:58 lol the peace? Aug 30 16:41:30 neer2005, office depotcame hrough Aug 30 16:41:31 peace and quiet Aug 30 16:41:33 i got a tp Aug 30 16:41:44 interesting....always thought irc chats were for.....idk........chatting lol Aug 30 16:42:05 and overused elipses! Aug 30 16:42:13 @samcripp AWESOME! Aug 30 16:42:14 You don't like staring at a chat screen watching the login and logout updates? Aug 30 16:42:16 SamCripp: congrats Aug 30 16:42:17 nice sam, glad you'r able to test now! Aug 30 16:42:21 hanks Aug 30 16:42:23 SamCripp, so, we'll have android what, in 4-5 hours? Aug 30 16:42:24 XD Aug 30 16:42:34 *in Aug 30 16:42:46 SamCripp: and now: go and develop :p Aug 30 16:42:52 @farchord I was thinkin 20-30 mins LOL Aug 30 16:43:22 light em up Aug 30 16:44:23 I am thinking bricked in 30 mins Aug 30 16:44:36 SamCripp NAH FUCKIN WAY Aug 30 16:44:58 i bet he is first using webos and realising that its not that bad :) Aug 30 16:45:27 especially since now we can actually edit office documents lol Aug 30 16:47:26 lp894, can you edit office docs? Aug 30 16:47:40 who wants to test some debrick code? Aug 30 16:47:51 brick not required Aug 30 16:48:37 um, as long as it doesnt crash anything, lemme at em Aug 30 16:49:01 my TP is at home, I'd test otherwise Aug 30 16:49:07 farchord, ok gotta reboot with volume down held Aug 30 16:49:10 my TP is in my hands :) Aug 30 16:49:14 jonpry, k Aug 30 16:49:20 Recovery mode right? Aug 30 16:49:22 your in linux right Aug 30 16:49:27 atm no Aug 30 16:49:29 no not recovery. thats volume up Aug 30 16:49:29 should I be? Aug 30 16:49:32 Pulsed Quickoffice update came out yesterday evening. Go check to see if you have and software updates availabke Aug 30 16:49:33 yeah need linux Aug 30 16:49:36 k brb Aug 30 16:49:40 down + boot = dload mode Aug 30 16:49:47 paste bin it vistazifta88 Aug 30 16:49:53 becareful :) Aug 30 16:50:02 pulser Aug 30 16:50:11 OK I see Aug 30 16:50:12 darn autocorrect lol Aug 30 16:50:14 I've not looked at updates Aug 30 16:50:22 not dangerous. if we could actually flash it with this then it would be debricked Aug 30 16:50:23 been too busy working on android etc :P Aug 30 16:50:25 any other updates? Aug 30 16:50:26 sammcripp: congrats man i just convinced a friend to sell me his for q75 usd lol Aug 30 16:50:34 175* Aug 30 16:50:42 volume down + power - what mode is that? Aug 30 16:50:50 QDL Aug 30 16:50:51 just pure download? Aug 30 16:51:00 its the qualcomm rom Aug 30 16:51:01 ah Aug 30 16:51:01 pure download? Aug 30 16:51:22 we can manage to upload code to a small piece of ram. its a matter of what code to upload Aug 30 16:51:34 qdl or dload Aug 30 16:51:36 we Aug 30 16:52:11 jonpry: did you get info from webos-int? or this is others? you? Aug 30 16:52:14 they are working on it Aug 30 16:52:17 + usb boot Aug 30 16:52:21 jonpry, PWR+- only booted normally mate Aug 30 16:52:37 nah it boots into a QDL Aug 30 16:52:39 i know for a fact Aug 30 16:52:41 no power Aug 30 16:52:41 :) Aug 30 16:52:43 try again Aug 30 16:52:45 ok lemme try again Aug 30 16:52:56 just use the webos reset while holding it down Aug 30 16:53:10 anyone know of a good blogging app for the touchpad? I'd like to blog to my wordpress. Aug 30 16:53:19 webos reset? Aug 30 16:53:20 wordpress? Aug 30 16:53:23 jonpry: dono if you know Aug 30 16:53:29 but i posted this yesterday Aug 30 16:53:33 Aug 30 16:53:45 farchord, device information -> reset options->rboot Aug 30 16:53:56 rhcp, yeah i know. thats what i erased Aug 30 16:53:58 Logoboy: i mean, seriously...http://webos.wordpress.org/2011/07/01/welcome/ Aug 30 16:54:00 yea Aug 30 16:54:09 so did someone actually get touchscreen working yesterday Aug 30 16:54:26 nhat: WOW Aug 30 16:54:30 thanks for that Aug 30 16:54:38 did you even look in the hp app catalog? Aug 30 16:54:49 I looked in preware, lol Aug 30 16:55:07 I searched the catalog for "wordpress", nothing came up if I remember correctly. Aug 30 16:55:14 k rebooting got the button held down Aug 30 16:55:34 farchord: hard reset? Aug 30 16:55:38 farchord, it should appear to be off Aug 30 16:55:49 but dmesg will show loading of module qcserial Aug 30 16:56:10 no it loaded fine again Aug 30 16:56:15 and trust me I was holding volume - Aug 30 16:56:27 hmm. i have done this Aug 30 16:56:27 as, just before it actually rebooted, the volume was going down lol Aug 30 16:56:44 and other people have gotten it into qdl as well Aug 30 16:56:47 Volume + goes into recovery Aug 30 16:56:48 i thought it had to be volume+ Aug 30 16:57:07 afaik Volume+ is Bootie recovery Aug 30 16:57:13 maybe power+home+vol down for 15 seconds Aug 30 16:57:21 aiite.... Aug 30 16:58:02 thats an awkward combo of buttons to press on this thing Aug 30 16:58:11 i guess not really Aug 30 16:58:19 nope still HP logo Aug 30 16:58:26 ouch Aug 30 16:58:45 give it awhile Aug 30 16:58:48 reboot with menu held. or maybe power. some combo has got to work Aug 30 16:58:55 the times i've done a hard reset, it takes awhile to boot Aug 30 16:59:37 aiite ima try menu Aug 30 16:59:54 once in qdl mode how do you exit? Aug 30 17:00:03 just power + menu Aug 30 17:00:08 hard reset Aug 30 17:00:09 yeah Aug 30 17:00:13 just be patient Aug 30 17:00:22 sometime it will take 10+ minutes Aug 30 17:00:33 it might be a delay in combinations...like power and home button til reset then include the volume - Aug 30 17:00:34 I had that experience Aug 30 17:00:40 what are you guys trying to do Aug 30 17:00:47 get into QDL mode Aug 30 17:00:56 woot, made teh Reddit front page. shower me with praise. Aug 30 17:01:05 simulated brick Aug 30 17:01:22 is there any good reader to read pdf file? Aug 30 17:01:36 I have to find the page I read last time manually everytime Aug 30 17:01:45 that is bitter Aug 30 17:01:56 whoa, screen tilted this time Aug 30 17:02:00 but went back to HP logo Aug 30 17:02:13 lol Aug 30 17:02:29 farchord, is it currently plugged into your pc? Aug 30 17:02:33 no Aug 30 17:03:08 maybe it needs to be. its caused by the ROM attempted a usb boot Aug 30 17:03:15 trying something Aug 30 17:03:27 well mate if I plug usb in while its off, it boots up Aug 30 17:03:43 volume down? Aug 30 17:04:10 aiite this wont be easy hold on lol Aug 30 17:05:09 power on with volume pressed down and usb plugged into computer Aug 30 17:05:41 actually now that i think about it Aug 30 17:06:00 i did this by being in recovery mode and typing reboot into novaterm Aug 30 17:06:18 lol Aug 30 17:06:25 sounds logical Aug 30 17:06:26 :) Aug 30 17:06:30 usb connected, hold power + home + voldovn for 15 seconds until dload serial device connects Aug 30 17:06:38 thats dload Aug 30 17:06:40 ok usb is plugged in, screen is black Aug 30 17:06:42 or qbsl Aug 30 17:06:42 w/e Aug 30 17:06:43 which MIGHT be it Aug 30 17:06:50 got qcserial? Aug 30 17:07:10 installed? hmmm idk lol is it on the ubuntu repos? Aug 30 17:07:19 no. in dmesg Aug 30 17:07:21 i think he means in your lsusb Aug 30 17:07:24 or dmsesg Aug 30 17:07:24 o Aug 30 17:07:25 :) Aug 30 17:07:26 hold on Aug 30 17:07:32 should say qcserial loaded ttyUSB0 Aug 30 17:07:49 Bus 001 Device 006: ID 05c6:9008 Qualcomm, Inc. Gobi Wireless Modem (QDL mode) Aug 30 17:07:52 yep Aug 30 17:07:56 nice Aug 30 17:07:56 awesome Aug 30 17:08:11 so its usb, power, home, vol down Aug 30 17:08:19 farchord, need this script http://pastebin.com/G8hGtLEE Aug 30 17:08:30 you can use QPST on that..... Aug 30 17:08:38 onetootree, no. Shutdown, then hold VOL- while u plugin USB. Aug 30 17:08:43 If you get no reaction = success Aug 30 17:08:45 dethlselin, the QPST's are all too old Aug 30 17:09:21 although somebody said there is a new QPST that has an eMMC tool that might work Aug 30 17:09:28 hrm Aug 30 17:09:47 farchord, you also need this in the same directory http://www.multiupload.com/W613IJYQN0 Aug 30 17:10:13 aiite Aug 30 17:10:18 would be interesting to see. i don't have a TP atm to try it Aug 30 17:10:20 I chmodded the script Aug 30 17:10:26 and got the bin? Aug 30 17:10:26 what is going to be accomplished by being in qdl mode Aug 30 17:10:29 jonpry, I can show you Aug 30 17:10:37 the bin is dlding, megaupload.... gotta wait Aug 30 17:10:55 jonpry: hold on Aug 30 17:11:36 np Aug 30 17:11:45 hi Detule Aug 30 17:11:54 staples has tp's on sale for 549, marked down from 600 haha Aug 30 17:12:07 bah screw it Aug 30 17:12:12 jonpry: You sure this is safe? Aug 30 17:12:15 yes Aug 30 17:12:36 i don't think it will do anything :( Aug 30 17:12:58 be sure to hold volume down while running the script Aug 30 17:13:09 or else it might just reboot Aug 30 17:13:09 farchord@scruffy:~/script$ ls Aug 30 17:13:09 IMEM_A.BIN tpscript.sh Aug 30 17:13:12 that's it? Aug 30 17:13:15 yep Aug 30 17:13:23 its a perl Aug 30 17:13:24 aiite here goes something Aug 30 17:13:25 not bash Aug 30 17:13:26 :P Aug 30 17:13:41 WHOA Aug 30 17:13:43 Numbers ahoy Aug 30 17:13:53 best case scenario it shows up as a different kind of usb device Aug 30 17:14:25 jonpry, lol hold on gonna need to put this in a file Aug 30 17:15:11 everyone sitting here and watching like its the first spaceshuttle start :) Aug 30 17:15:37 aiite got the text result Aug 30 17:15:44 hech yea lol....xP Aug 30 17:15:44 lemme pastebin it, its rather extensive Aug 30 17:15:46 or thelast one Aug 30 17:16:14 jonpry: this is same script we gave you. modded to upload? Aug 30 17:16:16 farchord, did it reboot? dmesg is probably more important. the text output is just the contents of IMEM_A.BIN in HDLC format Aug 30 17:16:20 i didnt read it Aug 30 17:16:27 hehe yea Aug 30 17:16:28 k Aug 30 17:16:38 You have exceeded the maximum file size of 500 kilobytes per paste. PRO users don't have this limit! lol Aug 30 17:16:39 rhcp, its close. modded for apq8060 Aug 30 17:16:44 yea figured Aug 30 17:16:47 jonpry no it didnt Aug 30 17:16:48 i read some of it Aug 30 17:17:00 did it reenumerate on usb? Aug 30 17:17:23 if you run the script again does it hang? Aug 30 17:17:27 no Aug 30 17:17:30 it just reruns Aug 30 17:17:33 Writing 1024 bytes to 0x2a02fc00; 0 bytes left. Aug 30 17:17:33 SENDING: 7e 0f 2a 02 fc 00 04 00 df 51 6c 73 03 c2 05 2b 96 17 dc 94 fd b0 7c 5c 64 fc 02 2a 64 b2 f4 47 17 bc 16 1b 01 00 00 00 0a 00 00 00 d8 b9 f4 47 64 fc 02 2a 00 00 00 00 a0 fc 02 2a 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 d4 b3 f4 47 b8 fc 02 2a 00 00 00 00 a0 fc 02 2a 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 2f 73 79 73 5f 62 6f 6f 74 2f 49 4d 45 4d 5f 41 2e 42 49 4e 00 4e 00 00 01 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 09 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Aug 30 17:17:33 00 40 20 48 00 78 fd 02 2a 08 9c fc 47 00 00 00 00 1c b5 fb 47 70 a2 f4 47 08 9c fc 47 e4 fc 02 2a 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 b3 fb 47 a8 8d f5 47 78 fd 02 2a 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 9c fc 47 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 30 d2 f4 47 20 b3 fb 47 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 08 9c fc 47 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 b3 fb 47 0 Aug 30 17:17:35 0 00 00 00 b0 d0 f4 47 78 fd 02 2a 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 20 b3 fb 47 5c d4 f4 47 78 fd 02 2a 58 fd 02 2a ff ff 00 00 58 fd 02 2a 00 00 00 00 78 fd 02 2a 00 00 00 00 50 d7 f4 47 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ff ff 00 00 01 00 00 00 98 fd 02 2a 80 fd 02 2a 01 00 00 00 d0 e6 f2 47 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 98 fd 02 2a 00 00 00 00 a0 a7 fc 47 01 00 00 00 20 b3 fb 47 ac ea f2 47 01 00 00 00 20 b3 fb 47 01 00 00 00 0c ba f5 47 50 c2 Aug 30 17:17:35 did anybody order a touchpad from expansys-usa? Aug 30 17:17:40 fc 47 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 20 b3 fb 47 20 b3 fb 47 94 c9 f2 47 01 00 00 00 6c fa fa 47 00 00 00 00 48 89 f1 47 01 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 50 a9 fc 47 20 b3 fb 47 00 00 00 00 78 ee f2 47 00 00 00 00 c0 aa fb 47 c0 2a fb 47 01 00 00 00 20 b3 fb 47 64 f0 f2 47 c0 aa fb 47 00 00 00 00 20 b3 fb 47 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 38 ff 02 2a 54 f2 f2 47 e0 fe 02 2a ff ff ff ff 00 00 00 00 a3 e7 f3 47 20 b3 fb 47 e0 fe 02 2a 64 fe 02 2a Aug 30 17:17:43 omg Aug 30 17:17:45 pastebin imo Aug 30 17:17:47 08 00 00 00 0c ed f1 47 00 00 00 00 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0c ed f1 47 ff ec f1 47 00 00 00 00 c0 2a fb 47 00 00 00 00 30 30 30 36 31 62 65 37 1c 85 fc 47 01 00 00 00 50 a9 fc 47 00 00 00 00 6c 04 f3 47 1c 85 fc 47 28 2b f7 47 e0 fe 02 2a 78 00 00 00 Aug 30 17:17:51 cant pastebin Aug 30 17:17:53 too big Aug 30 17:17:58 lol Aug 30 17:17:59 lol Aug 30 17:18:01 hold on lol Aug 30 17:18:10 make in .txt and upload Aug 30 17:18:11 lsusb -v -v Aug 30 17:19:02 thats very interesting that it did not hang Aug 30 17:19:14 nobody has ever run command 5 without it hanging Aug 30 17:19:17 no but it ends with an error Aug 30 17:19:19 hey jonpry so you can write to the pbl on 8060? Aug 30 17:19:34 yeah. we just don't have anything to write Aug 30 17:19:40 SENDING: 7e 05 2a 00 00 00 de ba 7e Aug 30 17:19:40 retval: 0 Aug 30 17:19:40 retval: 0 Aug 30 17:19:40 Failed to read response. Aug 30 17:19:44 farchord, thats pretty normal Aug 30 17:20:20 jonpry: are the p6's diff? Aug 30 17:20:24 aiite lemme tie in the lsusb -v -v Aug 30 17:20:25 on each device? Aug 30 17:20:28 ive yet to check Aug 30 17:20:43 rhcp, different between the android dump and mine at least Aug 30 17:20:51 welli mean tp t otp Aug 30 17:21:00 interesting effects from using the android one actually Aug 30 17:21:01 i/someone could just dump p6 for you Aug 30 17:21:05 and you could upload it Aug 30 17:21:14 if i could write the mmc it would be fixed Aug 30 17:21:32 well sure Aug 30 17:21:34 dd Aug 30 17:22:20 jonpry: http://paste.ubuntu.com/678147/ Aug 30 17:22:29 thanks Aug 30 17:22:46 hey jw jonpry since i use qpst so flash phones all the time.....u tried qpst 2.7 build 366? Aug 30 17:24:07 Grim86, i have 366. did not personally try it though. don't have windows Aug 30 17:24:19 jonpry, anything else? Or can I reboot it? Aug 30 17:24:32 ahh k yea they only make it for windows unfortunately lol Aug 30 17:24:34 looking at the files though i do not see a working hex file for 8x60 though Aug 30 17:24:40 is 366 the latest? i heard a new one came out recent Aug 30 17:24:57 farchord, i might have something else to try soon. but you can reboot if you like. it will be a few minutes Aug 30 17:24:59 did it....hmmm let me check the usual places Aug 30 17:25:02 there is a version 3.2 out just looking around google Aug 30 17:25:11 not in a rush, battery's at like 95% lol Aug 30 17:25:34 I received no touchpad email...wuwu Aug 30 17:25:52 i got one :P and i didnt even sign up for the notifications Aug 30 17:25:56 must be cus i reg'd my tp Aug 30 17:27:01 What you get? Aug 30 17:27:56 farchord, in the script there is an execute($fd, 0x2a000000); Aug 30 17:28:05 change to 0x2a000050 Aug 30 17:29:56 thats all? Aug 30 17:29:59 yes Aug 30 17:30:00 and rerun? Aug 30 17:30:02 yes Aug 30 17:30:16 think i got the entry point wrong :p Aug 30 17:30:34 that was the reset vector Aug 30 17:30:41 now its stuck at a sending line Aug 30 17:30:59 I dont think its going anywhere Aug 30 17:30:59 on the second run? Aug 30 17:31:10 no this run Aug 30 17:31:23 so it didn't even get to execute Aug 30 17:31:38 well it showed a BUTTLOAD of receiveds and sendings Aug 30 17:31:44 and now it seems stuck Aug 30 17:32:23 at like SENDING: 7e 05 2a 00 00 50 ... Aug 30 17:32:29 or one of the long ones? Aug 30 17:32:33 RECEIVED: 7e 02 6a d3 7e Aug 30 17:32:33 SENDING: 7e 05 2a 00 00 50 5b e8 7e Aug 30 17:32:39 thats the last line Aug 30 17:32:49 did it reenum on usb? Aug 30 17:33:02 device should go by by there Aug 30 17:33:12 its jumping into our upload Aug 30 17:34:01 ltrying to pastebin it hold on Aug 30 17:34:04 I mean lsusb Aug 30 17:34:09 http://paste.ubuntu.com/678156/ Aug 30 17:34:22 hello all Aug 30 17:34:45 jonpry, yep seems to be gone Aug 30 17:34:57 is there something new? Aug 30 17:35:00 dmesg please Aug 30 17:35:32 is there a decent terminal for the touchpad? Aug 30 17:35:40 xterm? Aug 30 17:35:47 http://paste.ubuntu.com/678156/ Aug 30 17:35:48 xterm prolly only working one right now Aug 30 17:35:49 err Aug 30 17:35:50 hold on Aug 30 17:35:57 [ 1477.401974] usb 1-1: Qualcomm USB modem converter now attached to ttyUSB0 Aug 30 17:35:57 [ 2534.284584] usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 8 Aug 30 17:35:57 [ 2534.300323] qcserial ttyUSB0: Qualcomm USB modem converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0 Aug 30 17:35:57 [ 2534.300370] qcserial 1-1:1.0: device disconnected Aug 30 17:35:57 [ 2534.580058] usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 9 Aug 30 17:35:58 [ 2539.710100] usb 1-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71 Aug 30 17:36:00 [ 2544.950052] usb 1-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71 Aug 30 17:36:25 ok. thanks farchord no more tests for now Aug 30 17:36:30 ok Aug 30 17:37:23 jonpry, how do I snap it out of it now tho Aug 30 17:37:31 hard reset? Aug 30 17:38:18 im tryin Aug 30 17:38:38 power and home Aug 30 17:38:44 yep Aug 30 17:38:46 that did it Aug 30 17:38:47 thanks Aug 30 17:38:47 yeah with no usb plugged in Aug 30 17:39:38 jonpry, you might of already been through this, but did you try the unbrick instructions on xda? Aug 30 17:40:02 Juggie, way past that :p Aug 30 17:40:09 figured :) Aug 30 17:40:19 you mucked up the mtd eh? Aug 30 17:40:31 yep Aug 30 17:40:35 nice :) Aug 30 17:40:47 did it excute? Aug 30 17:40:57 well you guys will figure it out.....there has to be a way to restore a brick Aug 30 17:40:58 no idea Aug 30 17:41:03 so of course developer mode does noting as the recovery partition is missing. Aug 30 17:41:21 is there something simple like "reboot" you can test Aug 30 17:41:24 Detule, looking at it again. the 2 vectors lead to the same place. so no idea why there would be a different efect Aug 30 17:42:24 Detule, probably not. reboot is very complicated on these chips. the power management chip usually has to take care of it. so we would need i2c and stuff Aug 30 17:45:03 jonpry, if you need anything else dont ask, this was rather entertaining Aug 30 17:45:07 errr Aug 30 17:45:12 don't HESITATE to ask Aug 30 17:45:13 lol Aug 30 17:45:22 ok. thanks Aug 30 17:45:56 lol Aug 30 17:46:02 lol Aug 30 17:46:07 jonpry has scotty seen this? Aug 30 17:46:09 or guhl? Aug 30 17:46:28 they know about it Aug 30 17:46:35 cool Aug 30 17:46:40 i know they would be higly interested Aug 30 17:46:53 nobody is going to be impressed until we can confirm actual code execution Aug 30 17:47:32 seen what? Aug 30 17:47:52 our QDL work Aug 30 17:47:56 see I'd like to know what I just helped with XD Aug 30 17:48:01 not even sure what it all meant lol Aug 30 17:48:38 so that usb device we are messing with is code on the actual processor. which is impossible to erase Aug 30 17:48:50 did anybody order a touchpad from expansys-usa? Aug 30 17:49:19 so the worst case thing you can ever do is get it into QDL. so if we can get the device booted or otherwise flash the eMMC through QDL, then it will be unbrickable Aug 30 17:49:42 nice Aug 30 17:49:45 any hope? Aug 30 17:50:04 not sure Aug 30 17:50:12 well you just used the QDL interface to re-write your usb descriptors it seems Aug 30 17:50:19 that's nice Aug 30 17:50:26 nah, that is caused by crashing the PBL Aug 30 17:50:37 chaps, is there a link to this info we have on the unbricking? Aug 30 17:50:44 someone mentioned a thread Aug 30 17:50:46 but I can't find any links Aug 30 17:50:54 no thread that i know of Aug 30 17:51:03 ok cool Aug 30 17:51:06 jonpry: did you figure this out? or was the magic (data to send) on that thread? Aug 30 17:51:18 jonpry, that's the "thread" I was wondering about :D Aug 30 17:51:26 rhcp, is there some thread or info I've missed: Aug 30 17:51:27 ? Aug 30 17:51:35 i dono someone mentied a thread Aug 30 17:51:43 yh Aug 30 17:51:44 same Aug 30 17:51:46 I was curious Aug 30 17:51:50 seems someone found a "download" mode Aug 30 17:52:03 orly? Aug 30 17:52:06 ODIN ODIN ODIN Aug 30 17:52:07 XD Aug 30 17:52:21 ODIN is for samsung soc's Aug 30 17:52:30 hiho Aug 30 17:52:41 jonpry: someone was talking about flashing certain files via Aug 30 17:52:41 O Aug 30 17:52:42 odin Aug 30 17:52:44 yes, a download mode is very common Aug 30 17:52:53 but I do know SOME other devices use ODIN Aug 30 17:52:55 unofficially Aug 30 17:52:56 :P Aug 30 17:53:01 yes Aug 30 17:53:02 some of the chinese no-brand shit Aug 30 17:53:05 uses ODIN Aug 30 17:53:06 or heimdall Aug 30 17:53:11 heimdall yeah Aug 30 17:53:13 presumably as it was reverse engineered or cloned Aug 30 17:53:24 Detule, i'm pretty sure i managed to corrupt the descriptors and some point. but the could not retrieve descriptors is just a crashed processor Aug 30 17:53:26 but yeah, any info on this process appreciated Aug 30 17:53:56 oh god Aug 30 17:53:58 Hemdall Aug 30 17:54:02 * Framework shivers Aug 30 17:54:06 heimdall* Aug 30 17:54:06 yeah i seems to have missed what he pasted in chat Aug 30 17:54:12 Would be awesome if we could get nvflash-like mode on TP :) Aug 30 17:54:19 its just a totally different protocol for use with much less pathological chips. QCOM socs are designed to not run arbitrary code. complete chain of trust Aug 30 17:54:43 blech i hate that about sammys lol...why cant they all be like htc...wipe and flash lol....freaking loading up a stock rom all the time is annoying lol Aug 30 17:55:05 Grim86, I've never loaded a stock ROM on mine other than once for fault finding Aug 30 17:55:06 :) Aug 30 17:55:40 hey now 2 of my friends that have been using f4 kernel, when they look in govnah, it says the 2nd core is "N/A" Aug 30 17:55:47 well thats how it was for that moment my bro had lol....every time i wanted to load a new rom i had to load stock and then flash over lol Aug 30 17:56:46 You didn't really have to, thats just what ROM Devs said to do, ;) Aug 30 17:57:23 http://h20435.www2.hp.com/t5/The-Next-Bench-Blog/More-TouchPads-on-the-Way/ba-p/68749 Aug 30 17:57:31 well i tried flashing over once....didnt end up well lol Aug 30 17:57:56 juggie link fai Aug 30 17:57:57 l Aug 30 17:58:11 ? Aug 30 17:58:12 bleh w/e i never liked samsungs anyways lol....i want a evo3d! dual core snapdragon woot lol Aug 30 17:58:13 DQn3tsWRK: on the tab i use Aug 30 17:58:16 im using F5 Aug 30 17:58:44 DQn3tsWRK: ? Aug 30 17:58:45 f5? Aug 30 17:59:22 yea Aug 30 17:59:41 what feed is that from Aug 30 18:00:06 kernels testing? Aug 30 18:00:32 DQn3tsWRK: its more related to #webos-internals . but its because of govnah reading to slow or 1 core is down for idle Aug 30 18:00:53 http://h20435.www2.hp.com/t5/The-Next-Bench-Blog/More-TouchPads-on-the-Way/ba-p/68749 Aug 30 18:01:22 DQn3tsWRK: think so Aug 30 18:01:29 i got it from a XDA post frirnd sent Aug 30 18:01:41 Gskellig: link down hah Aug 30 18:01:41 i actually have a second TP i can use rather then the one on my desk Aug 30 18:01:46 link is up Aug 30 18:01:48 just wait Aug 30 18:01:51 loaded fine here Aug 30 18:01:54 lol Aug 30 18:01:56 can someone link me Aug 30 18:01:59 wont load for me at all Aug 30 18:02:08 i'm on the HP intranet and that link isn't loading.... Aug 30 18:02:34 http://www.downforeveryone.com/http://h20435.www2.hp.com/t5/The-Next-Bench-Blog/More-TouchPads-on-the-Way/ba-p/68749 Aug 30 18:02:35 link is borked for me Aug 30 18:02:37 down Aug 30 18:02:46 now its loading Aug 30 18:02:49 CAN SOMEONE COPYPASTA ME Aug 30 18:03:01 loaded some stuff without images now though Aug 30 18:03:14 why do you guys have to hammer our poor servers? :( Aug 30 18:03:16 oh its the link from the email Aug 30 18:03:20 saw this a while ago Aug 30 18:03:26 aww crap....time for class...must not be late again lol Aug 30 18:03:35 Q: Can you comment on whether HP had to manufacture more to meet the recent demand? Aug 30 18:03:35 HP will be manufacturing a limited quantity of TouchPads with webOS during our fourth fiscal quarter 2011, which ends October 31. Aug 30 18:03:39 but slightly changed Aug 30 18:03:44 thats good news Aug 30 18:03:50 heh ... someone at HP is going "WTF" looking and the bandwidth meters ... Aug 30 18:04:11 dethlselin: I think you should expedite my shipping^^ Aug 30 18:04:43 rwest: not my department Aug 30 18:04:59 I think the killer solution with this device would be webos for the UI, and the ability to run android apps. Aug 30 18:05:23 dunno how possible/impossible that is, but the merge of the two is the holy grail ... Aug 30 18:05:36 * litz shrugs Aug 30 18:05:47 we'll see what the 'behind the scenes' folks come up with Aug 30 18:05:47 litz, i agree would be awesome, but highly unlikely Aug 30 18:06:44 lol if they blog server got killed online ordering is going to go real well :) Aug 30 18:06:57 lol Aug 30 18:07:11 blog server is on a different server than the ordering servers Aug 30 18:07:14 ill be sure to replace my f5 key before next monday Aug 30 18:07:24 I just wonder if one landed a 16gb unit, is it even worth trying to land a 32gb unit out of a new allotment? Aug 30 18:07:34 dethlselin, no doubt its just a joke! Aug 30 18:07:56 they need to make more touchstones Aug 30 18:08:20 no, their server is giogn to die Aug 30 18:08:27 their web system is shit Aug 30 18:08:40 juggie: I'm just being realistic though :P Aug 30 18:09:03 I got a notification my touchstone from amazon marketplace finally shipped ... shipping method : OTHER. No clue what that means. Aug 30 18:09:12 (probably usps first class) Aug 30 18:09:46 hmm somoene said a site Aug 30 18:09:53 i hate to go back in logs Aug 30 18:10:53 carrier pidgeon litz Aug 30 18:11:37 i want a touchstone so bad now Aug 30 18:11:38 heh, that's what pissed me off about asktp ... before it all imploded, the guy was using techdata as his shipper. Techdata is six miles from where I work. Aug 30 18:11:51 didnt think id want it that bad, but tiny lil chargers make for bad breaks Aug 30 18:12:16 lol Aug 30 18:12:23 forums are closed for maintenance now Aug 30 18:15:57 i think we need a better dump of the IMEM Aug 30 18:16:43 jonpry, you are looking into this apparent download mode for unbrick purposes? Aug 30 18:16:48 yes Aug 30 18:16:57 cool Aug 30 18:17:01 I only joined in the middle Aug 30 18:17:09 so we found that vol down does something interesting Aug 30 18:17:13 I gather Aug 30 18:17:16 simulated brick Aug 30 18:17:20 http://ompldr.org/vYTRpeQ/wirc-enyo_2011-30-08_141008.png Aug 30 18:17:21 mmmm Aug 30 18:17:25 but presumably we are not sure how to send something down, or get it to accept it? Aug 30 18:18:00 your wirc is much better than mine Aug 30 18:18:08 i have something that appears to work but its very difficult to verify that it does because we have no know working code to upload Aug 30 18:18:18 s/know/known Aug 30 18:18:21 Ah OK I see Aug 30 18:18:22 makes sense Aug 30 18:18:23 jonpry, did u get ur tp to work? Aug 30 18:18:27 no Aug 30 18:18:29 well, I shall leave you to it Aug 30 18:18:32 did you brick yors for real btw? Aug 30 18:18:41 whaddap Aug 30 18:18:46 yeah. i am trading it to someone doing a teardown Aug 30 18:18:53 should have it in a couple of days Aug 30 18:18:59 nice Aug 30 18:19:02 kk Aug 30 18:19:08 Pulser, we need an IMEM dump Aug 30 18:19:13 hmmm Aug 30 18:19:25 then if we uploaded that Aug 30 18:19:30 it _should_ run it? Aug 30 18:19:41 jonpry, and can I help with that? Aug 30 18:19:42 isn't that a fairly large gaping "hole" in any designed security? Aug 30 18:19:53 though I guess that hp wasn't too worried about physical access Aug 30 18:19:58 since you can turn on dev mode anyway Aug 30 18:20:04 even if it did, i don't exactly know what the code will do Aug 30 18:20:18 i'm just hoping its something. so we can verify my uploader works Aug 30 18:20:48 farchord, maybe. i will have to patch a kernel to allow reading of the IMEM Aug 30 18:20:50 did you know what u did wrong? Aug 30 18:20:58 erased p6 Aug 30 18:21:34 i see Aug 30 18:22:03 jonpry: try locating the assembly code required to reboot the device ;) That's what we did on ASUS Transformer to verify similar code execution Aug 30 18:22:37 theres some doubt about the reset vector Aug 30 18:23:01 and i think it might require a PMIC mediated reset Aug 30 18:23:24 erk. Tegra is easier, lol Aug 30 18:23:32 so anyone have access to cpu manual? Aug 30 18:23:52 You just write to an arm register telling it to reset the main clock and it hard reboots =P Aug 30 18:24:01 rumor has it that the rom code is actually resident in the vector table, lol Aug 30 18:24:19 reset the pll? Aug 30 18:24:24 yup Aug 30 18:25:34 if you make the bin file, farchord can execute it :p Aug 30 18:25:57 On tegra it resets the device back into APX mode, but it's enough to verify code execution because it disconnects usb shortly Aug 30 18:26:19 APQ8060 manual? Available anywhere? Aug 30 18:26:27 I haven't looked enough at TP SoC yet to know how to do it. Aug 30 18:26:39 what is APX mode? Aug 30 18:26:42 oh yeah lots of fun all around Aug 30 18:26:50 jonpry: low-level recovery Aug 30 18:27:01 we are already kind of in that Aug 30 18:27:12 yeah, APX mode is tegra2-specific Aug 30 18:27:20 I'm not saying TP has APX Aug 30 18:27:22 :) Aug 30 18:27:54 hmmm I think I am in the same boat… Aug 30 18:28:04 I'm just giving suggestions, since the basics are likely to be similar. I still don't have a TP (for another week or so). Aug 30 18:28:56 no recovery Aug 30 18:29:30 it is connecting over usb though Aug 30 18:29:34 but no novacom Aug 30 18:29:37 jonpry: is code executed on a different CPU in that mode? Aug 30 18:30:37 can we use the table at 0? like mov r0, 0; ldr sp,r[0]; mov r0,[4]; ldr pc, [r0]; ? Aug 30 18:30:48 RaYmAn, i think so but we don't actually know Aug 30 18:31:02 hmm Aug 30 18:31:02 damageless: you bricked? Aug 30 18:31:06 hi RaYmAn Aug 30 18:31:10 hi Aug 30 18:31:20 rhcp: nub :P Aug 30 18:31:30 sup ProTekk got your shit coverd? Aug 30 18:31:33 all good? Aug 30 18:31:42 jonpry: I'm not sure it would do what you want tbh Aug 30 18:31:43 Hmmm SamCripp is quiet.... he's either at work, or hermitting on his touchpad Aug 30 18:31:45 probably temporarily bricked Aug 30 18:31:48 yerp...said fuck it and been cleaning it ourselves Aug 30 18:31:57 ah Aug 30 18:31:58 cool Aug 30 18:32:01 car? Aug 30 18:32:02 jonpry: might mess up with some hardware being slightly initialized previously and such Aug 30 18:32:05 damageless: what did you do? Aug 30 18:32:10 :) Aug 30 18:32:11 jonpry: have you looked at how kernel restarts cpu? Aug 30 18:32:17 or u-boot :) Aug 30 18:32:23 got fast boot going then tried some things and now it doesn't like recovery Aug 30 18:32:30 oh Aug 30 18:32:31 just calling them for the chemical cleaning and whatnot...will be coming tomorrow Aug 30 18:32:32 I got the code for rebooting tegra2 at low-level from u-boot for tegra2, lol Aug 30 18:32:38 told ya not to fuck around in there Aug 30 18:32:38 lol Aug 30 18:33:00 damageless: the part layout is in the private wiki Aug 30 18:33:03 if you want to look Aug 30 18:33:05 if helps Aug 30 18:33:15 farchord, i havnt picked it up yet Aug 30 18:33:18 rhcp Aug 30 18:33:20 wtf Aug 30 18:33:22 rhcp: give me private wiki you sum o' bitch -_- Aug 30 18:33:46 SamCripp, reaaaaally. Why not? Aug 30 18:33:46 nah, its not viewable+editable or anything. no point really Aug 30 18:33:53 there is no private wiki Aug 30 18:33:56 it doesn't exit Aug 30 18:33:58 cause ima pick it up on my way to work Aug 30 18:33:59 *exist Aug 30 18:34:01 LIES! Aug 30 18:34:03 no need to go running Aug 30 18:34:07 o ok Aug 30 18:34:09 SamCripp: whats up Aug 30 18:34:09 they are saving it for me and only me Aug 30 18:34:54 hey there Aug 30 18:35:08 hey cutes Aug 30 18:35:10 cute Aug 30 18:35:16 SamCripp: gz! Aug 30 18:35:35 ima make it my goal to kick neer2005 once a day Aug 30 18:35:45 lol Aug 30 18:35:45 RaYmAn, looks like gpio. writel(0,MSM_TLMM_BASE + 0x820) Aug 30 18:35:46 lol Aug 30 18:35:47 hey there number9 Aug 30 18:36:01 `you have uboot source? Aug 30 18:37:07 jonpry, so the QDL interface enables you to interact directly with the processor right? Aug 30 18:37:15 now neer has to figure out how to rejoin Aug 30 18:37:30 farchord, yes Aug 30 18:37:45 jonpry, so technically, could you boot an image of linux from USB? Aug 30 18:37:46 jonpry: so something like ldr r0, #value_of_msm_tlmm_base+0x820, ldr r1,#0, str r1,[r0] ? :) Aug 30 18:37:55 and what makes you think it's gpio btw? Aug 30 18:38:07 is MSM_TLMM_BASE the register base for gpio on MSM? Aug 30 18:38:32 TLMM is the gpio mux stuff Aug 30 18:38:34 ah Aug 30 18:38:47 but could do other things Aug 30 18:38:58 So the question is if it's the PHYS address or the other address, lol Aug 30 18:39:21 farchord, sort of. at this level there is no DDR, no SMI, might not be running on one of the cortex processors Aug 30 18:39:46 RaYmAn, my gnu assembler is not good enough to write that. need pc relative immediate load. ugh Aug 30 18:40:20 jonpry: uh, lol. You need an updated assembler :P Aug 30 18:41:08 I got my gcc 4.4 arm-eabi-as to do that fine Aug 30 18:41:23 without a data area? Aug 30 18:42:22 it just stores it in the 'instruction' area Aug 30 18:43:52 I'll admit ARM assembly isn't my strongest side, but it certainly did work ,lol :) Aug 30 18:44:16 jonpry, you ever heard of the QDL tool? Aug 30 18:44:50 farchord, yes. this is built from studying that Aug 30 18:45:03 ahh ok Aug 30 18:45:57 jonpry you got yours unbricked? Aug 30 18:50:21 jonpry, so I dont understand, cant you use that tool with the basic webos image and turn your device back to stock? Aug 30 18:55:52 Any progress Aug 30 18:57:40 they are making progess but not telling the public anymore Aug 30 19:00:06 and offcourse not telling iphone users :)) Aug 30 19:03:11 nothing to really tell as of yet. learning Aug 30 19:05:31 not to be a debbie downer, but im not really interested in a 2.3 port Aug 30 19:05:41 i prolly wont switch from webos until honeycomb is ported Aug 30 19:05:49 which probably wont happen until the source is released Aug 30 19:05:56 it wont be Aug 30 19:05:58 I agree... somewhat. Should have went straight to work on Honeycomb. Aug 30 19:06:15 the barron they really cant Aug 30 19:06:19 without the source Aug 30 19:06:22 There will most likely not be a stable honeycomb port Aug 30 19:06:22 yeah.. source, blah blah ;) Aug 30 19:06:30 ICS, whatever ;) Aug 30 19:06:34 lol Aug 30 19:06:34 * TheBarron runs around in circles Aug 30 19:06:39 honeycomb isnt open source and wont be until a new version comes out Aug 30 19:06:41 it doesn't necessarily need source, it'll just be a hacky mess without Aug 30 19:06:47 trsohmers||away apparently has Froyo runnin Aug 30 19:06:49 farchord, the ram isn't even working at this point so its hard to load anything. and we can only upload 392kb Aug 30 19:07:04 farchord, i have got a new binary for you Aug 30 19:07:07 24 bytes Aug 30 19:07:16 I mean, people have ported it to various phones without source =P Aug 30 19:07:37 but there's no point in trying to port HC, until an open source version actually runs well Aug 30 19:07:48 It's much easier to debug stuff when youhave source ;) Aug 30 19:07:54 pfffft Aug 30 19:07:56 pansis ;) Aug 30 19:08:01 pansies, that is Aug 30 19:08:01 lol Aug 30 19:08:12 RaYmAn, i had the worst time compiling this POS, lol Aug 30 19:08:23 jonpry: what went wrong? Aug 30 19:08:43 http://pastebin.com/ZV5cmKHE Aug 30 19:09:09 ugh, supposed to be r1 Aug 30 19:09:14 lol Aug 30 19:10:00 so whose in QDL? Aug 30 19:10:01 wow, that's complicated for doing something that simple :P Aug 30 19:10:09 somebody just made a brick no? Aug 30 19:10:23 jonpry, is it safe to enter said mode? Aug 30 19:10:29 yes Aug 30 19:10:33 or is entering it risky? Aug 30 19:10:33 ok Aug 30 19:10:38 are you needing something? Aug 30 19:10:49 i want somebody to try this new binary Aug 30 19:10:57 get some reboot action Aug 30 19:11:09 ok Aug 30 19:11:30 I've only got one TP, so it's not for me unfortunately :( Aug 30 19:11:36 but let's try to undetstand Aug 30 19:11:39 you have made a binary Aug 30 19:11:40 that SHOULD Aug 30 19:11:44 reboot the phone? Aug 30 19:11:47 yes Aug 30 19:11:48 ie. showing we have code execution Aug 30 19:11:57 from something arbitrarily loaded via usb on a "brick"? Aug 30 19:12:01 thats the plan Aug 30 19:12:23 i see Aug 30 19:12:29 did it work for you on the "real" brick? Aug 30 19:12:32 or can you not test yet? Aug 30 19:12:59 i got rid of the brick Aug 30 19:13:04 ooh nice Aug 30 19:13:07 how did you do that? Aug 30 19:13:13 that doesnt look like anything harmful Aug 30 19:13:14 at all Aug 30 19:13:16 i traded it Aug 30 19:13:18 I got rid of the brick too Aug 30 19:13:24 haha I see jonpry Aug 30 19:13:29 Gskellig: why did you post that site? it has no touchpads Aug 30 19:13:31 that i saw Aug 30 19:13:36 Gskellig, I sense something like "I threw it out the window" =D Aug 30 19:13:39 what site Aug 30 19:13:42 that code jonpry posted doesnt look harmful at all Aug 30 19:13:42 Pulser, you called it Aug 30 19:13:51 its not Aug 30 19:13:56 looks cool to me Aug 30 19:13:58 just re=assuring Aug 30 19:14:01 rhcp, what site Aug 30 19:14:12 http://www.expansys-usa.com Aug 30 19:14:39 i was asking if anybody else ordered from there Aug 30 19:14:50 I bought an hp touchpad from them a week ago today Aug 30 19:14:53 they charged me Aug 30 19:14:56 but havent' shipped Aug 30 19:15:25 AH Aug 30 19:15:29 i thought they had them now Aug 30 19:15:32 I need a few more Aug 30 19:15:32 :) Aug 30 19:15:33 nope Aug 30 19:15:35 F U Aug 30 19:15:37 i have zero Aug 30 19:16:14 B&N cancelled Aug 30 19:16:17 edwincomp cancelled Aug 30 19:16:26 expansys-usa - about to fail any day now, even though they CHARGED me Aug 30 19:16:40 /whine Aug 30 19:16:44 hp is getting more in a few weeks Aug 30 19:16:50 yeah i saw that Aug 30 19:16:54 I will most likely not be here Aug 30 19:16:59 for some reason or another Aug 30 19:17:07 they will sell out in 5 mins, and it will take 5 mins and 30 seconds for me to get to my comp Aug 30 19:17:10 bb took my money on a Sunday. didn't ship it till Thursday night Aug 30 19:17:25 expansys took my money on tuesday and still haven't shipped =\ Aug 30 19:19:16 jonpry: since you are presumably objcopy'ing the binary code out anyways, something like this should work just as well: http://pastebin.com/6BfmA32c Aug 30 19:21:00 hah RaYmAn Aug 30 19:21:14 you couold just do it in inline C Aug 30 19:21:20 easier Aug 30 19:21:38 rhcp: convincing compilers to NOT emit stack saving code etc is the annoying part =P Aug 30 19:21:48 just rmeove it Aug 30 19:21:49 :) Aug 30 19:22:00 but then it's jus as easy to just write it in assembly :) Aug 30 19:22:10 oh yea i wasnt talking about writing it in C Aug 30 19:22:13 just inline ASM Aug 30 19:22:24 ah Aug 30 19:22:46 Then i don't see the advantage of using inline assembly over plain assembly I guess, lol Aug 30 19:23:00 dono i just do shit. depends on mood Aug 30 19:23:00 lol Aug 30 19:23:13 other than making it more complicated since you need to tell compiler about register clobbering and shit Aug 30 19:23:20 yep Aug 30 19:23:36 why loop the gpio? Aug 30 19:23:36 arm assembly is quite pretty Aug 30 19:23:42 wont it just send it into a reboot loop Aug 30 19:23:43 :) Aug 30 19:23:57 no Aug 30 19:24:10 don't know how long the reset will take. the linux source waits 5ms Aug 30 19:24:25 it's a hard reboot. so it will just loop until cpu resets Aug 30 19:24:35 jonpry: I can test it i guess Aug 30 19:24:36 if you want Aug 30 19:24:38 there is some code in the linux source that shows how to force a reboot to qdl Aug 30 19:25:02 link me to bin Aug 30 19:25:38 booting tp now Aug 30 19:25:42 its like 24 bytes Aug 30 19:25:53 you get DCC? Aug 30 19:27:26 rhcp, http://www.multiupload.com/GJ18NQSBMF Aug 30 19:27:34 must rename it to IMEM_A.BIN Aug 30 19:27:48 and make sure your execute() is to 0x2A000000 Aug 30 19:28:06 jonpry: is there any public information on that QDL mode? Aug 30 19:28:10 or is it all sekrit Aug 30 19:28:52 there is some source out there for the actual Gobi devices. but the protocol is different Aug 30 19:28:55 jonpry: i can just chmod 755 and ./ Aug 30 19:28:56 ? Aug 30 19:28:59 ah Aug 30 19:29:02 or do i need that perl? Aug 30 19:29:07 you need the script Aug 30 19:29:18 k Aug 30 19:29:19 lol. rhcp runs 24byte arm binary Aug 30 19:29:21 let me get setup Aug 30 19:29:40 need to be in dload right Aug 30 19:29:46 well if i need script yea Aug 30 19:29:47 :P Aug 30 19:29:48 obvious Aug 30 19:30:07 what was the entry point i needed to edit again? Aug 30 19:30:18 if you got the script from pastebin its fine Aug 30 19:30:25 farchord, modded his in an experiment Aug 30 19:30:27 i got the orig one Aug 30 19:30:29 not modded Aug 30 19:30:31 ah Aug 30 19:30:34 then its fine Aug 30 19:30:35 so one from pastebin is ok Aug 30 19:30:36 ? Aug 30 19:30:36 kk Aug 30 19:31:04 I mean my TP runs FREE-DOS now, but ya it works Aug 30 19:31:05 jonpry: pastebin url? :P Aug 30 19:31:56 RaYmAn, http://pastebin.com/G8hGtLEE Aug 30 19:32:14 k Aug 30 19:32:15 Bus 002 Device 066: ID 05c6:9008 Qualcomm, Inc. Gobi Wireless Modem (QDL mode) Aug 30 19:32:22 i just perl blah.pl Aug 30 19:32:23 ? Aug 30 19:32:25 or some command line Aug 30 19:32:50 chmod mod it and run it Aug 30 19:32:55 of course :P Aug 30 19:32:57 k Aug 30 19:32:58 make sure the bin is called IMEM_A.BIN Aug 30 19:33:00 wanted to know if it needed args Aug 30 19:33:02 yea done Aug 30 19:33:07 good to go Aug 30 19:33:51 http://pastebin.com/RRnLnk8A Aug 30 19:33:54 no reboot Aug 30 19:34:11 no beep boop Aug 30 19:34:32 rhcp: it's not unlikely it will reboot back into same mode tbh Aug 30 19:34:34 hey rhcp any news on that kernel? Aug 30 19:34:55 so keeping an eye on usb connection disappearing for a second is not a bad idea Aug 30 19:35:08 i must have done the objcopy wrong Aug 30 19:35:16 i don't see the TLMM address in that hex Aug 30 19:35:38 try objdump -b binary -m arm -D binary.bin Aug 30 19:36:27 i think it didn't get the data section Aug 30 19:36:40 ok waiting for next bin :) Aug 30 19:36:42 lemme know Aug 30 19:37:08 darkredflame_: we got a few. not sure what we plan to use yet. Aug 30 19:37:14 looking into other major things Aug 30 19:37:22 like what? Aug 30 19:37:43 proper dual boot setup / LVM setup / proper uboot setup for this all Aug 30 19:37:46 pivots Aug 30 19:37:52 http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/30/hp-limited-supply-of-touchpads-on-the-way/ Aug 30 19:37:55 sutff we dont discuss here. since its pretty much useless Aug 30 19:38:13 just will have peeps asking when and how Aug 30 19:38:14 etc Aug 30 19:38:42 anyone looked into Aug 30 19:38:43 QDLTool 2.2 Aug 30 19:38:43 ? Aug 30 19:39:05 rhcp: http://skumler.net/tprb.bin :P Aug 30 19:39:05 i got that email today Aug 30 19:39:15 feel fee to objdump to verify assembly ;) Aug 30 19:39:25 k Aug 30 19:39:29 ill rename that bitch and run Aug 30 19:39:29 :) Aug 30 19:39:32 i trust ya Aug 30 19:39:42 lol Aug 30 19:39:52 famous last words :] Aug 30 19:40:47 fine Aug 30 19:40:48 lol Aug 30 19:40:51 Disassembly of section .data: Aug 30 19:40:51 00000000 <.data>: Aug 30 19:40:51 0: e59f0008 ldr r0, [pc, #8] ; 0x10 Aug 30 19:40:51 4: e3a01000 mov r1, #0 ; 0x0 Aug 30 19:40:51 8: e5801000 str r1, [r0] Aug 30 19:40:54 c: eafffffe b 0xc Aug 30 19:40:56 10: 00800820 addeq r0, r0, r0, lsr #16 Aug 30 19:41:12 looks fine to me Aug 30 19:41:14 FML Aug 30 19:41:23 ok here goes Aug 30 19:41:23 what is it rhcp` Aug 30 19:41:24 ? Aug 30 19:41:52 that did something Aug 30 19:41:54 its stuck on sending Aug 30 19:41:55 :) Aug 30 19:41:56 atm Aug 30 19:42:14 should i let it go? Aug 30 19:42:15 or? Aug 30 19:42:24 BRICKED Aug 30 19:42:28 ^^ Aug 30 19:42:36 * RaYmAn takes no responsibility for any bricks Aug 30 19:42:41 http://pastebin.com/CnCidWhq Aug 30 19:42:45 this is what im getting Aug 30 19:43:21 i like the "received something" Aug 30 19:43:59 yea its just sitting at sending Aug 30 19:44:07 let me ctrl -C Aug 30 19:44:23 it prints something before executing doesn't it? Aug 30 19:44:24 Bus 002 Device 068: ID 05c6:9008 Qualcomm, Inc. Gobi Wireless Modem (QDL mode) Aug 30 19:44:35 still in QDL mode Aug 30 19:44:42 so it hasnt done anything Aug 30 19:44:50 http://www.xda-developers.com/android/hp-touchpad-gets-in-gear-both-cores-overclocked-to-1-9-ghz/ Aug 30 19:44:52 unless it rebooted back into QDL mode :P Aug 30 19:44:55 oh it has actually Aug 30 19:45:05 rhcp, has anyone used QDLTool??? Aug 30 19:45:11 or looked at it Aug 30 19:45:14 if i rerun it Aug 30 19:45:16 rhcp@root:/mnt/storage/android/touchdroid/dev$ ./debrick.pl Aug 30 19:45:16 Using TTY: /dev/ttyUSB0 Aug 30 19:45:16 SENDING: 7e 01 51 43 4f 4d 20 68 69 67 68 20 73 70 65 65 64 20 70 72 6f 74 6f 63 6f 6c 20 68 73 74 00 00 00 00 06 06 60 ff ff 59 c7 7e Aug 30 19:45:22 i get this Aug 30 19:45:24 and nothing more Aug 30 19:46:00 time to force a reboot Aug 30 19:46:36 ok Aug 30 19:46:44 jonpry: anything else you want me to try? Aug 30 19:46:44 well, presumably it hasn't gotten to actually executing the code yet Aug 30 19:46:47 or RaYmAn ? Aug 30 19:47:20 rhcp, i'm trying to get the binary to work Aug 30 19:47:27 jonpry: ok Aug 30 19:47:38 im going to shower. and get dressed. Aug 30 19:47:45 msg me if anything so i dont need to scroll back Aug 30 19:47:45 :) Aug 30 19:47:48 ill test for ya Aug 30 19:48:24 jonpry, have you looked at a program called QDLTool? Aug 30 19:48:32 nobody seems to want to talk about it :P Aug 30 19:48:38 i think he got to info from qdltool Aug 30 19:48:42 he said it ealier Aug 30 19:48:42 i think Aug 30 19:48:58 ah OK cool Aug 30 19:48:59 thx Aug 30 19:49:03 np Aug 30 19:49:10 im not 100% sure :) but i think so Aug 30 19:49:13 my memory sux Aug 30 19:49:37 its true Aug 30 19:49:44 cool Aug 30 19:49:48 I was just looking into QDL there Aug 30 19:49:55 i think it's safe to assume at this point that if I can find something googling for "qdl mode" jonpry has seen it Aug 30 19:50:28 lol yeah Aug 30 19:50:41 yea, prob see all our pastebins Aug 30 19:50:42 :P Aug 30 19:50:44 rhcp, you need more rams Aug 30 19:50:45 maybe figure out how to compile that assembler file and up with data at the end :p Aug 30 19:50:46 by now Aug 30 19:50:51 well, I did make a build for the MSM8660 a while before anyone else was talking about that link Aug 30 19:50:56 I pasted it here and it attracted no attention Aug 30 19:51:04 a couple days later, someone else spotted it :) Aug 30 19:51:07 jonpry: am I right in assuming it looks like it actually sends the execute command before breaking? Aug 30 19:51:18 yes Aug 30 19:51:22 rhcp: could you add in a printf statement in the beginning of the execute function Aug 30 19:51:30 the binary is definitely bad though Aug 30 19:51:41 aww :( Aug 30 19:51:49 how hard can this be Aug 30 19:51:57 the binary I made isn't bad Aug 30 19:52:00 It does what you said :P Aug 30 19:52:08 it reboots? Aug 30 19:52:16 no it does what you said to do Aug 30 19:52:19 as in code wise Aug 30 19:52:20 :P Aug 30 19:52:20 doesn't seem like it , but it does do exactly what you said :P Aug 30 19:52:24 yea Aug 30 19:52:30 hold ill pastebin the dump Aug 30 19:52:54 RaYmAn, can you give me the asm file? Aug 30 19:52:57 http://pastebin.com/xuwYzYp9 Aug 30 19:53:03 this is killing me Aug 30 19:53:49 see thats no good. got no data at pc,#8 Aug 30 19:54:06 er i guess you do Aug 30 19:54:43 jonpry: is that code you pasted using the PHYS address or the BASE address? Aug 30 19:54:52 phys Aug 30 19:54:54 yup :P pc points at next instruction, not current Aug 30 19:55:00 yeah, that should make sense, lol Aug 30 19:55:11 I guess if it's using GPIO it might not be setup yet Aug 30 19:55:15 is that the binary rhcp just tried? Aug 30 19:55:30 that's his disassembly of my binary, yes Aug 30 19:55:40 and what does it do? Aug 30 19:55:44 nothing Aug 30 19:55:46 i'm a little confused :p Aug 30 19:55:47 but wha ti pastebined Aug 30 19:55:54 it just locks Aug 30 19:55:56 writes 0 into 0x800820 :P Aug 30 19:55:59 lol Aug 30 19:56:07 rhcp: did you watch USB while running it? Aug 30 19:56:13 To see if it disconnects, even for a second Aug 30 19:56:15 and you have to reset after? Aug 30 19:56:16 no tbh Aug 30 19:56:17 or check dmesg Aug 30 19:56:25 what ya trying to do Aug 30 19:56:35 DJ_Steve: reboot device from low-level recovery, lol Aug 30 19:56:37 i can do it again Aug 30 19:56:41 hold on Aug 30 19:56:43 lol diag mode ? Aug 30 19:56:51 might need to turn on the TLMM functional block clocks Aug 30 19:56:53 I guess so? lol no clue Aug 30 19:56:54 I would tend to disagree with that viewpoint Aug 30 19:57:15 whats windows detect it as Aug 30 19:57:23 we could always try the reset vector method Aug 30 19:57:45 [305854.294136] usb 2-1.3: Qualcomm USB modem converter now attached to ttyUSB0 Aug 30 19:57:48 ok Aug 30 19:57:48 going to run it again Aug 30 19:57:51 and look at dmesg Aug 30 19:58:01 DJ_Steve: some kind of modem tty thingy Aug 30 19:58:07 that lets you download code and run it Aug 30 19:58:11 similar to APX on tegra Aug 30 19:58:18 oh wait Aug 30 19:58:27 this time it ran Aug 30 19:58:31 what do they use at the factory for initial loads/ Aug 30 19:58:31 i think it just resets QDL Aug 30 19:58:34 ? Aug 30 19:58:44 look on a windows pc find out if it detects as a qualcom MSM device Aug 30 19:59:04 rhcp: no disconnect on usb? Aug 30 19:59:35 i wonder if changing the reboot mode thingy would cause it to boot webos Aug 30 19:59:40 one awesome thing though..at least it's not encrypted it seems :] Aug 30 19:59:57 [305854.294008] qcserial 2-1.3:1.0: Qualcomm USB modem converter detected Aug 30 19:59:57 [305854.294136] usb 2-1.3: Qualcomm USB modem converter now attached to ttyUSB0 Aug 30 20:00:00 [305894.539457] usb 2-1.3: USB disconnect, address 71 Aug 30 20:00:02 on tegra2 you need to encrypt the messages to get code running on the lowlevel-usb Aug 30 20:00:03 [305894.539648] qcserial ttyUSB0: Qualcomm USB modem converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0 Aug 30 20:00:06 [305894.539670] qcserial 2-1.3:1.0: device disconnected Aug 30 20:00:08 [305894.780265] usb 2-1.3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 72 Aug 30 20:00:10 awesome, I guess that means it works :) Aug 30 20:00:11 [305894.891689] qcserial 2-1.3:1.0: Qualcomm USB modem converter detected Aug 30 20:00:14 [305894.891871] usb 2-1.3: Qualcomm USB modem converter now attached to ttyUSB0 Aug 30 20:00:14 sweet Aug 30 20:00:17 it executed Aug 30 20:00:17 yea Aug 30 20:00:20 nice Aug 30 20:00:35 maybe we will right to reboot mode Aug 30 20:00:47 rhcp: could you try rerunning without force turning off device Aug 30 20:00:53 k Aug 30 20:00:55 to verify it's in actual qdlmode again Aug 30 20:01:04 runs Aug 30 20:01:14 are you trying to unbrick a tp? Aug 30 20:01:18 We get the touchscreen working? Aug 30 20:01:26 [305894.891871] usb 2-1.3: Qualcomm USB modem converter now attached to ttyUSB0 Aug 30 20:01:29 [306075.542793] usb 2-1.3: USB disconnect, address 72 Aug 30 20:01:32 [306075.542974] qcserial ttyUSB0: Qualcomm USB modem converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0 Aug 30 20:01:35 [306075.542995] qcserial 2-1.3:1.0: device disconnected Aug 30 20:01:38 [306075.781742] usb 2-1.3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 73 Aug 30 20:01:40 [306075.893084] qcserial 2-1.3:1.0: Qualcomm USB modem converter detected Aug 30 20:01:43 [306075.893158] usb 2-1.3: Qualcomm USB modem converter now attached to ttyUSB0 Aug 30 20:01:46 its rebooting dload Aug 30 20:01:46 100% Aug 30 20:01:51 nice :) Aug 30 20:02:05 is that good, rhcp ? :P Aug 30 20:02:08 am i to understand that usb host is possible? Aug 30 20:02:20 yes need usb host please kthnx Aug 30 20:02:26 for webos Aug 30 20:02:26 this is why we dont speak in public about stuff Aug 30 20:02:27 :) Aug 30 20:02:29 so we just ran arbitrary code on a device that could be bricked Aug 30 20:02:32 lol rhcp indeed Aug 30 20:02:37 I was about to say something particularly rude to them Aug 30 20:02:39 about USB host Aug 30 20:02:44 and how they won't be needing a USB host Aug 30 20:02:50 if I have anything to do with their future :P Aug 30 20:03:20 jonpry: now find th GPIO for hard-reset Aug 30 20:03:22 :) Aug 30 20:03:23 they are not worried about that right now Aug 30 20:03:24 my goal is to get ecu logging to my touchpad Aug 30 20:03:36 RaYmAn, *0x2A05F000 = 0; *0x2A05F004=0; Aug 30 20:03:38 They're not worried about the touch screen? Wtf? Aug 30 20:03:46 lol how are you getting into this diag mode folks Aug 30 20:03:47 RaYmAn, there;s more working on it Aug 30 20:03:54 BatNode|iPhone, we are focussing on more important stuff right now Aug 30 20:03:59 DJ_Steve, vol dwn and pwr Aug 30 20:04:17 ..ore important than the way we interact with the device...?? Aug 30 20:04:19 jonpry: so that should reset reboot mode back to normal? Aug 30 20:04:20 yea similar to my streak5 - i bet its diag mode of the msm chip Aug 30 20:04:21 DQn3tsWRK: for webos development ask the webos internals guys :) Aug 30 20:04:35 DJ_Steve: it's mentioning qualcomm GOBI so probably :) Aug 30 20:04:40 yep Aug 30 20:04:56 mind, you, it's technicall not an msm chip ;) Aug 30 20:05:06 i need to know how a windows system idents the device in that mode as i have a driver package and qdl here Aug 30 20:05:14 anyway got a bin i can test in 5min or so? Aug 30 20:05:19 they are working on brick recovery which is very important Aug 30 20:05:20 RaYmAn, *(0x2A05F000 + 0x65c) = 0x77665502 Aug 30 20:05:22 i gotta head to showeer and stuff :) Aug 30 20:05:30 RaYmAn, just those 3 should cause normal power on Aug 30 20:05:31 BatNode|iPhone, yes indeed - the way to unbrick perhaps Aug 30 20:05:33 i got time to run one Aug 30 20:05:40 before i go Aug 30 20:05:41 lol Aug 30 20:06:49 well i can't manage to compile this crap Aug 30 20:07:01 :( Aug 30 20:07:09 jonpry, unfortunately I know bugger all about this Aug 30 20:07:13 so can't really help Aug 30 20:07:15 have RaYmAn do it Aug 30 20:07:19 so I'll just go away do something else right now :P Aug 30 20:07:24 and return later Aug 30 20:07:24 Pulser: yea ;) Aug 30 20:07:27 hehe Aug 30 20:07:28 do some shit Aug 30 20:07:29 l) Aug 30 20:07:30 I can do C++ Aug 30 20:07:39 but that's about it in terms of low level Aug 30 20:07:40 :P Aug 30 20:08:25 i got a fresh tp right here... how can i help? Aug 30 20:08:30 jonpry: do I need to wait some amount of cycles after writing those values? Aug 30 20:08:48 don't think so Aug 30 20:09:08 its just persistent across the reboot. i guess IMEM is not flushed Aug 30 20:09:36 makes sense Aug 30 20:09:53 tegra2 has persistent scratch memory as well Aug 30 20:10:03 well, if you power off completely, it clears it seems Aug 30 20:10:06 some of it anyways Aug 30 20:10:14 used for warmboot stuff mostly Aug 30 20:10:21 just like this Aug 30 20:11:01 I'm lazy, so: skumler.net/tprb.bin Aug 30 20:11:03 moldy_: ship it to one of the devs ,.. :) Aug 30 20:11:05 same url Aug 30 20:11:21 blame jonpry if it breaks anything :] Aug 30 20:11:26 i would if it wasn't my only 1.. promis Aug 30 20:11:28 e Aug 30 20:11:37 lol Aug 30 20:11:56 jonpry: also, http://skumler.net/tprb.s Aug 30 20:12:18 but if there is any way i can help other than that.. i will Aug 30 20:12:48 moldy_: how do you feel about bricking your device? :P Aug 30 20:13:00 jonpry: shall i run it? Aug 30 20:13:04 yes Aug 30 20:13:12 ok :) Aug 30 20:13:20 i really wouldnt want that to happen Aug 30 20:13:29 aww Aug 30 20:13:43 be a little adventorous(sp?) Aug 30 20:13:56 yeah Aug 30 20:14:27 hheheeh Aug 30 20:14:30 I have one coming soon and when i get it I'll be up to bricking it too if it's to help the community or to help me learn this shit Aug 30 20:14:37 it stopped in sending Aug 30 20:15:02 meh, 68 bytes shouldn't be an issue, lol Aug 30 20:15:03 let me hard reboot Aug 30 20:15:07 LOL WOW the MIUI phone and touchpad have the same CPU/GPU xD Aug 30 20:15:14 I guess the script is kind of...unstable Aug 30 20:15:20 well not exactly the same cpu, but pretty close Aug 30 20:15:22 yea Aug 30 20:15:24 ill try one more time Aug 30 20:15:29 since last time it did same shit Aug 30 20:15:34 and it worked on second shot Aug 30 20:15:35 sec Aug 30 20:16:07 wow what a packed room Aug 30 20:17:05 ah i forgot when i put usb back in it will start again Aug 30 20:17:06 hold :) Aug 30 20:17:10 idiot mistake Aug 30 20:17:44 DarthVince: it's ok most r just watching for entertainment or left it online to catch up when they return to their machine Aug 30 20:18:37 Bus 002 Device 076: ID 05c6:9008 Qualcomm, Inc. Gobi Wireless Modem (QDL mode) Aug 30 20:18:40 ok Aug 30 20:18:41 here goes again Aug 30 20:18:43 just figured i'd check in. I'm helping with development on the samsung infuse, but figured i'd check out what you guys were up to Aug 30 20:18:54 this time it ran 100% Aug 30 20:18:59 no reboot though Aug 30 20:19:16 looks to have rebooted QDL Aug 30 20:19:36 Hmm Aug 30 20:19:40 Interesting Aug 30 20:19:50 theres probably more too it than what linux needs to do Aug 30 20:20:04 other things have already written there magic's at that point Aug 30 20:21:06 i seen a guys twitter sayin he was running an ARM version of backtrack 4 on his TP.. anyone know any details Aug 30 20:21:57 moldy_: I wouldn't be surprised Aug 30 20:22:13 moldy_: I doubt it has any driver support though Aug 30 20:22:39 he said fully functional and the NIC supported monitor mode Aug 30 20:22:49 any way we could use those drivers for this project? Aug 30 20:23:52 Anyone know if manual/docs are available for the APQ8060? I couldn't seem to find any... ??? Aug 30 20:24:17 the page timed out before i could read the rest of the unbricking attempt Aug 30 20:24:21 what happened? Aug 30 20:24:47 zondajag: it's not really an unbricking attempt just yet :P Aug 30 20:25:01 but we did confirm being able to execute a limited amount of custom code in diag mode :) Aug 30 20:25:38 PuffTheMagic: may know a bit more Aug 30 20:25:52 about what? Aug 30 20:25:54 i just lost my backlog Aug 30 20:26:03 PuffTheMagic: working on debricking the TP Aug 30 20:26:04 RaYmAn, maybe if we just zero imem it will work :p Aug 30 20:26:08 via QDL Aug 30 20:26:20 who bricked their tp? Aug 30 20:26:25 they are trying to reboot the TP via QDL Aug 30 20:26:27 jonpry: that seems dangerous ;) Aug 30 20:26:30 rhcp: im working on talking to QDL Aug 30 20:26:41 PuffTheMagic: already got that. jonpry figured it out Aug 30 20:26:47 APQ8060 docs?? Are they available anywhere? Yes, no? Aug 30 20:27:01 RaYmAn, nah its just a piece of static ram. it will be zero'd on hard reset Aug 30 20:27:13 jonpry: do we know the size of it? Aug 30 20:27:31 PuffTheMagic: mrcellphoneunlocker.com/debrick.pl Aug 30 20:28:08 RaYmAn, 384kb Aug 30 20:28:25 but don't erase the beginning because our code is there Aug 30 20:28:31 lol Aug 30 20:28:46 who said i was using the wrong protocol? Aug 30 20:28:46 anyway im going ot exit this mode and shut it donw Aug 30 20:28:58 msg me if yougot bins to test Aug 30 20:29:05 ill test when i get back Aug 30 20:29:07 RaYmAn, for some reason the dump of IMEM is only 192kb Aug 30 20:29:22 Im going to go crazy Aug 30 20:29:37 jonpry: odd..maybe kernel can't access all of it? Aug 30 20:29:41 jonpry: if you want me to dump it from a working device pm me how. ill post it Aug 30 20:29:46 when i get back Aug 30 20:29:48 ok Aug 30 20:30:13 APQ8060 docs?? Are they available? Yes, no? Aug 30 20:30:44 RaYmAn, doesn't seem to be locked and I can upload 384kb via our loader Aug 30 20:30:54 jonpry: why does your code have magicfoo at the top but its used nowhere Aug 30 20:30:56 jonpry: yeah, but that's in an entirely differnet mode =P Aug 30 20:31:21 thats the other possibility just zero with QDL. then upload the rebooter Aug 30 20:31:41 PuffTheMagic, i was trying some Gobi commands Aug 30 20:32:03 jonpry: but thats not the right route? Aug 30 20:32:32 doesn't seem to respond to those commands. other people with snapdragons have found the same thing Aug 30 20:32:36 tbh, I don't see the importance of rebooting to regular mode? =P Aug 30 20:33:07 just to confirm the hugonic assumption that it is indeed running our uploaded code Aug 30 20:33:17 um so jonprys tp is a lost cause now as its not recognised by anything? Aug 30 20:33:20 behavior does seem to be different Aug 30 20:33:27 presumably the idea is to use the code execution to upload a more full bootloader that allows flashing stuff Aug 30 20:33:37 jonpry: well, make a bin that just loops forever doing nothing Aug 30 20:33:42 if it behaves differently, we're quite sure ;) Aug 30 20:33:47 it hangs it Aug 30 20:34:13 and crash should cause other issues, yes? Aug 30 20:34:31 just hang more or less Aug 30 20:34:59 I'd say that's about as close we can get to confirmation right now =P Aug 30 20:35:03 would a usb disconnect be a point of differentiation Aug 30 20:35:14 ok so what do we do with it? Aug 30 20:35:20 Detule: it indicates that something has reset :P Aug 30 20:35:33 APQ8060 docs?? Are they available anywhere? Yes, no? Aug 30 20:35:40 jcsullins: unlikely Aug 30 20:35:44 i've gotten plenty of disconnects, but never a reidentification Aug 30 20:35:46 unless you're a vendor Aug 30 20:36:07 shame... thanks Aug 30 20:36:10 i guess i was wondering if you can get a hang without a disconnect Aug 30 20:36:30 i would like to establish some more verbose method of communication than either reset/hang Aug 30 20:36:45 definitely Aug 30 20:37:15 but usb is pretty difficult Aug 30 20:37:16 so there is hope for jonprys tp? Aug 30 20:38:06 maybe flash on and off some light Aug 30 20:38:41 that would probably be easy enough as well Aug 30 20:38:44 though Aug 30 20:38:48 zondajag: jonpry's touchpad doesn't exist he treeaded it in he's just trying to help for future bricks Aug 30 20:39:01 it might require some power setup that's not done yet Aug 30 20:39:21 all the lights are on other chips over i2c Aug 30 20:39:27 do you know the mask for that front led Aug 30 20:39:54 ouch, so you'd probably need to power up i2c block, initialize right, then initialize the other chips and send commands to turn it on Aug 30 20:39:57 lol Aug 30 20:40:39 RaYmAn is the first developer I've recognized here. From the Notion Ink forums. :-) Aug 30 20:40:39 So in reality it's probably easy to write something to USB (I'm assuming that bootrom sets up usb for diag mode leaving it on in such a sense it's just writing to a buffer and some registers to send/receive usb traffic) Aug 30 20:41:05 lol Aug 30 20:41:18 we can just bit bang the i2c Aug 30 20:41:37 usb would require interrupt handling. which i think is out of reach because we don't know what processor its running on Aug 30 20:42:01 so just curious Aug 30 20:42:09 the tool you're reversing from Aug 30 20:42:20 does it not contain some "miniloader" that it uploads and executes? Aug 30 20:42:27 yes indeed Aug 30 20:42:27 e.g. something that could be RE'd Aug 30 20:42:47 the miniloaders are all for way different SOC's Aug 30 20:43:00 doesn't appear that it can run from IMEM Aug 30 20:43:11 it must run something in IMEM though? Aug 30 20:43:28 this is why I wanted to maybe start with an IMEM dump from a working touchpad Aug 30 20:43:58 speaking of bitbanging. we can bitbang the emmc :p with payload attached to the binary Aug 30 20:44:08 lol Aug 30 20:44:19 but isn't the upload limited to something stupidly small? Aug 30 20:45:02 on tegra it's kind of odd..the upload through bootrom is very limited, but the code uploaded can access much more memory (without initializing anything) Aug 30 20:45:07 384kb Aug 30 20:45:15 jonprys touchpad never existed? Aug 30 20:45:40 RaYmAn, its possible we can turn on the SMI without much trouble. its either 64 or 128mb Aug 30 20:46:07 zondajag: it existed but he traded it in with someone doing a teardown Aug 30 20:46:33 oh the webos guys Aug 30 20:46:38 jonpry: so if that's possible, then we should be able to access usb to receive a "real" bootloader that's bigger Aug 30 20:46:42 i thought they got that bricked cm one Aug 30 20:46:44 is /dev/block/loopx mountable in jonpry's kernel? Aug 30 20:47:03 RaYmAn, anyways its like there is only maybe 30MB of stuff that needs to be on the mmc. so we are talking about a script that just reboots the thing 120 times Aug 30 20:47:09 I tried mount some imgae files with no success Aug 30 20:47:25 lol Aug 30 20:47:31 hi,jonpry,you are here. Aug 30 20:48:13 yes i am Aug 30 20:48:36 i tried a whole day with no luck:( Aug 30 20:48:45 mount ext4 loop@/system.img.ext4 /system ro barrier=1 Aug 30 20:48:49 in init.rc Aug 30 20:49:20 does android init even support loopback devices? lol Aug 30 20:49:29 I think so. Aug 30 20:49:40 morons - http://www.precentral.net/hp-build-additional-limited-run-touchpads-satisfy-demand Aug 30 20:49:54 RaYmAn, checkout system/core/init/builtins.c Aug 30 20:53:52 loopback works fine on my kernel. i have used it in webOS for chroot Aug 30 20:59:52 Yay I broke the silence now ppl can talk again Aug 30 21:02:07 got it.i did not enable ext4 support in kernel support :( Aug 30 21:03:26 Congrats rainlake Aug 30 21:04:04 booted. then reboot into webos :( Aug 30 21:04:40 but the filesystem is there:) Aug 30 21:05:18 At least u made some progress and know thtat I got something right Aug 30 21:05:24 I'm hungry, I think ima go compile me a pizza. Aug 30 21:05:26 Meant u* Aug 30 21:05:38 Haha farchord Aug 30 21:07:09 farchord: can I get the source code for the pizza? Aug 30 21:07:56 Aug 30 21:08:03 app catalog down for anyone else? Aug 30 21:09:06 Yes. Aug 30 21:09:25 yep down for me too Aug 30 21:09:54 ok cool i'm not the only one. Thanks! Aug 30 21:10:02 huh? Aug 30 21:10:05 what'd i miss? Aug 30 21:10:17 They never had so much usage so they finally need to upgrade their servers lol Aug 30 21:10:36 ProTekk: the app catalog it's down! Lol Aug 30 21:10:40 SAN DIEGO — San Diego police say a 16-year-old boy throwing rocks at a sport utility vehicle was struck by a crossbow bolt fired by a passenger. Aug 30 21:10:41 :# Aug 30 21:10:42 :3* Aug 30 21:10:52 vistazifta, i wouldnt know lol preware for me Aug 30 21:11:40 ProTekk: u asked I answered lol Aug 30 21:11:48 :P Aug 30 21:12:22 Gtg ttygl Aug 30 21:14:07 on the forum "Got a WHITE, 64MB, 1.5MHz Touchpad today" Aug 30 21:14:31 I guess he got a shitty touchpad…the 1.5mhz model w/ 64MB of space is a little old Aug 30 21:14:54 1.5mhz ftw! Aug 30 21:14:59 it's a gameboy Aug 30 21:15:01 we're going back to the post 486 day!!! Aug 30 21:15:06 rofl Aug 30 21:15:18 damn, 64MB will hold a ton of porn Aug 30 21:15:19 underclocked gameboy at that, i think Aug 30 21:15:28 hows it progressing boys? Aug 30 21:15:29 i guess it's time for me to bring back my old compaq all in one Aug 30 21:15:48 damn, my thinkpad T22 is faster Aug 30 21:15:54 at a whopping 900mhz Aug 30 21:15:54 heya Aug 30 21:16:28 what's up? Aug 30 21:16:39 on meh pixi Aug 30 21:16:53 ive got a toshiba laptop with a 1gig harddrive and its running a pentium 1 with windows 95 and it still going strong just no wifi Aug 30 21:17:02 does anyone have weird battery usage on their TP? Mine will sometimes stay at 100 for around 30+ mins, but battery doctor reports it as in the 90's Aug 30 21:17:18 sperman yeah some Aug 30 21:17:24 i remembered way back when a 4gb hdd is massive Aug 30 21:17:25 hmmm Aug 30 21:17:32 yeah, mine seems to stay at 100% for a while, then the next time i check, it's like 88 or 89 Aug 30 21:17:34 and people wondered, why anyone would need more Aug 30 21:17:47 and the batt icon will be green, then change to silver Aug 30 21:17:48 idk why Aug 30 21:17:54 I have a 84mb hdd in an old puter Aug 30 21:18:13 i remember being in college and learning about MBR's 2TB limit and laughing as if we'd ever get there Aug 30 21:18:29 shit. stop talking about this. i'm starting to feel old.. Aug 30 21:18:29 hell I got a commodore Aug 30 21:18:39 my amiga a1200 has a 20gb one ;) Aug 30 21:18:45 20mb lol Aug 30 21:18:48 TRS-80 ftw. Aug 30 21:18:50 I have a commodore 64 w/ the tape drive from the town dump Aug 30 21:18:53 and an apple IIe Aug 30 21:18:56 commodore 128d Aug 30 21:19:04 the last of the 8 bits Aug 30 21:19:07 LOL@town dump Aug 30 21:19:24 yup :) Aug 30 21:19:26 mmmmm, pizza... Aug 30 21:19:26 had 16 bit compat though Aug 30 21:19:29 Well my day has been a waste. Aug 30 21:19:34 Finally got Android compiled and running fully on the Touchpad. But got so excited I spill my beer on the computer frying it and loosing the source code.. Aug 30 21:19:41 At least, that was the dream I had after lunch... Aug 30 21:19:45 lol Aug 30 21:19:45 Thwarted even in my dreams... Aug 30 21:19:48 I sold a powermac G4 from there (a dual 450mhz) sold it for 130 Aug 30 21:19:49 more like a nightmare Aug 30 21:19:54 and bought a 1TB external drive haha Aug 30 21:20:12 lol Aug 30 21:20:17 i recently set up a tiny raid array for myself Aug 30 21:20:25 2 bay 2tb 7200 rpm drives Aug 30 21:20:34 thankfully running esata Aug 30 21:20:39 woah Aug 30 21:20:46 I have 750 Aug 30 21:20:49 it's for editing Aug 30 21:20:58 i have it set up for raid 1 for safety Aug 30 21:21:04 editing what? Aug 30 21:21:09 film Aug 30 21:21:11 I have a my book home 1TB fw400 Aug 30 21:21:17 oh Aug 30 21:21:31 that's my newest set up. Aug 30 21:21:37 i have a ton of older drives.. actually 5 Aug 30 21:22:08 I love my tp so much haha Aug 30 21:22:22 I used it for reddit last night :) Aug 30 21:23:00 1 500gb, 1 TB (desktop externals), and 2 750gb portable drives and 1 500gb portable drive Aug 30 21:23:07 I love my tp Aug 30 21:23:14 best 110 I've ever spent Aug 30 21:23:16 use it for school Aug 30 21:23:20 nearly 8tb total XD Aug 30 21:23:29 holy shit Aug 30 21:23:32 8tb Aug 30 21:23:35 damn Aug 30 21:23:37 brb Aug 30 21:23:42 yeah..... except i use about only 3 or 4 tb Aug 30 21:23:46 the rest is still.... open space Aug 30 21:24:23 the 1TB one holds my older film projects. my extra 750gb holds another 2 films. my 2tb has a copy of one of my films that is still in the works. Aug 30 21:24:34 which will also house the next set that i will be editing as well Aug 30 21:27:06 i have close to 8TB already in use Aug 30 21:27:18 i get blurays from netflix and then rip them Aug 30 21:27:23 well shit.. no wonder Aug 30 21:27:44 works for me Aug 30 21:27:49 what's the TP battery issue? Aug 30 21:28:08 a stream everything over to my ps3 and it is flawless 1080P video i love it Aug 30 21:29:38 come on now i want to play with android on the TP i wish i knew how to program so i could help Aug 30 21:29:56 well.. uh.. let the devs keep working then ;) Aug 30 21:30:11 lol Aug 30 21:30:13 TOUCHSCREEN Aug 30 21:30:28 i know im just bored of webos ive exhausted all the apps for the TP Aug 30 21:30:28 random words? Aug 30 21:30:29 works now? Aug 30 21:30:30 fap Aug 30 21:30:43 they might sell the touchpad under cost again look at PlayStation and Xbox they were sold under build cost Aug 30 21:30:49 hey uh anyone know a good tp powerpoint tool? Aug 30 21:30:52 touchscreen wont b done till a prper bootloaders is made with a choice Aug 30 21:35:20 I'll take that as a no Aug 30 21:36:36 tried quickoffice? Aug 30 21:37:27 k1l that doesn't edit pp Aug 30 21:37:39 it does docs and spreadsheets Aug 30 21:38:09 abiword seems to run with ubuntuchroot. for everything else try #webos-internals Aug 30 21:38:43 abiword works Aug 30 21:38:47 no pp though Aug 30 21:39:00 I've run it on chroot Aug 30 21:39:26 #touchpad Aug 30 21:39:49 oops sorry Aug 30 21:39:53 #touchpad is a bunch of kidz, better ask in webos-internals Aug 30 21:40:03 well Aug 30 21:40:04 no Aug 30 21:40:08 #webos Aug 30 21:40:16 internals is for development Aug 30 21:43:50 onebody want to do another simulated brick experiment? Aug 30 21:44:02 er anybody Aug 30 21:44:40 simulated brick? Aug 30 21:45:07 jonpry I'll do whatever Aug 30 21:45:16 yeah put it in QDL mode Aug 30 21:45:20 you have linux? Aug 30 21:45:34 yep dual boot Aug 30 21:45:46 hold on tell me wtf I'm doing to my tp Aug 30 21:46:05 its long story Aug 30 21:46:12 but i think its not risky Aug 30 21:46:18 uh Aug 30 21:46:25 I know urs is bricked Aug 30 21:46:36 what am I doing though? Aug 30 21:46:37 yeah and this is part of my efforts to fix it Aug 30 21:47:03 jonpry: clear imem experiment or something else? =P Aug 30 21:47:09 you turn it on in a special way so that the processor does not boot from flash Aug 30 21:47:18 RaYmAn, just a c runtime Aug 30 21:47:27 ah, fun :P Aug 30 21:47:27 lol Aug 30 21:47:45 no more of that assembly crap for me Aug 30 21:47:49 lol Aug 30 21:48:12 so Aug 30 21:48:32 then you upload some code to it while its in flash disconnected kind of mode Aug 30 21:48:34 what's the risk involved ? I'm all for getting ur tp up and running again Aug 30 21:48:46 i traded in my tp or i would do the experiment myself Aug 30 21:49:18 traded it for what? Aug 30 21:49:20 i don't see how it would break your tp. that being said you could be struck by lightning. Aug 30 21:49:22 another one Aug 30 21:49:40 who the hell let you trade it? Aug 30 21:49:53 somebody who is doing a teardown Aug 30 21:49:59 oh Aug 30 21:50:23 ok after dinner I can help Aug 30 21:50:26 brb Aug 30 21:50:30 k Aug 30 21:50:31 what did you trade it for? =P Aug 30 21:50:57 a working one Aug 30 21:50:59 its the question of the hour Aug 30 21:51:15 right? Aug 30 21:51:32 you know i just had a bad ass idea Aug 30 21:51:34 handyj pro duo Aug 30 21:51:46 if he traded it for a working one, there's no reason he couldn't test this stuff himself, lol Aug 30 21:52:06 RaYmAn, since IMEM is not cleared. its possible we could keep tons of debugging info in it and recover on reboot Aug 30 21:52:25 RaYmAn, i don't have the new one yet Aug 30 21:52:30 in the mail Aug 30 21:52:34 ah Aug 30 21:52:35 nice Aug 30 21:52:53 jonpry: depending on what parts are used by bootloader I guess Aug 30 21:53:09 imho we only need like one byte to get this working Aug 30 21:53:18 thats 256 states! Aug 30 21:53:22 lol Aug 30 21:53:32 when all is don will the android jailbreak be available on preware lol Aug 30 21:54:17 that'd be pretty cool actually, lol Aug 30 21:54:35 convienience Aug 30 21:54:48 damn spelling Aug 30 21:55:02 stupid maths degree Aug 30 21:55:24 made me illiterate Aug 30 21:55:31 lol Aug 30 21:55:33 so achieving a reboot without the whole hard reset thing is going to be critical Aug 30 21:56:18 jonpry: without some kind of usb access it's pretty hard to verify properly the value is being stored Aug 30 21:56:26 writing random values to flash seems a bit scary Aug 30 21:56:27 lol Aug 30 21:56:30 u can do it, have faith Aug 30 21:56:38 anyone else buy from datavision? Aug 30 21:57:01 rothnic, just got an email from them Aug 30 21:57:08 sucks big time Aug 30 21:57:12 yeah Aug 30 21:57:22 they cancelled? Aug 30 21:57:24 dw hp will make more Aug 30 21:57:25 RaYmAn, not if you have a brick. i suspect we will be able to put a lot of stuff into the IMEM though. thousands of bytes. we can check crc's do anything i tell you Aug 30 21:57:37 possibly :) Aug 30 21:57:38 yep, they are going to refund people tomorrow Aug 30 21:57:42 aww :/ Aug 30 21:58:03 rothnic: so we need to get you a device from a different source then Aug 30 21:58:44 Got the same email. Aug 30 21:58:46 Sucks. Aug 30 21:58:51 unless I'm one of the lucky few that does get one shipped tomorrow Aug 30 21:59:00 * RaYmAn crosses fingers Aug 30 21:59:03 i really thought i was one of the first to buy it from that ebay auction Aug 30 21:59:13 i know i was one of the top 100 Aug 30 21:59:20 Still out the money spent on the cases, though. Aug 30 21:59:34 yeah i almost bought a touchstone... Aug 30 21:59:39 rothnic, i bought mine from their site prior to the ebay listing Aug 30 21:59:51 And time I could've spent finding another place to buy them. Aug 30 22:00:05 ah yeah, wasn't sure when the site went up in comparison to the auction Aug 30 22:00:39 wonder what their ebay rating looks like.... Aug 30 22:00:49 mine is out for delivery now. UPS needs to hurry its shit up. Aug 30 22:00:58 some sellers are liars that stick the money on the stock market make a profit then refund all the money Aug 30 22:01:14 I'm guessing like before, with the addition 8,000 1-star ratings. Aug 30 22:01:30 **maybe Aug 30 22:01:38 http://goo.gl/s8WnX Aug 30 22:01:44 they are flowing in Aug 30 22:02:58 ebay fail Aug 30 22:03:07 now enough about purchases Aug 30 22:03:22 maybe someone should make a channel about obtaining the touchpad Aug 30 22:03:27 lmao Aug 30 22:03:36 #howtofindTP Aug 30 22:04:04 no #touchpadsafari Aug 30 22:04:07 easy, go to ebay and pay someone a $125 finders fee Aug 30 22:04:08 nah Aug 30 22:04:14 #touchpadhunters Aug 30 22:04:17 #howtofindTP lol Aug 30 22:04:47 rothnic: it's still not *expensive* really :P Aug 30 22:04:48 but yeah Aug 30 22:04:53 kind of sucky markup, lol Aug 30 22:05:06 isnt HP gonna make more ? Aug 30 22:05:06 #guidetobuyingusedTP Aug 30 22:05:11 you kno #howtofindTP is a real channel Aug 30 22:05:29 wtf, some of them are bid up to 300$, lol Aug 30 22:05:39 someone stick that in the title then Aug 30 22:06:01 maybe they do that hoping for a hp rebate Aug 30 22:06:26 Yea when android Is finally ported ul c them going for minimum 400 already stocked with android and their shrink wrap em and tell u it's brand new Aug 30 22:06:35 lol Aug 30 22:07:19 any luck with that qdl mode code? Aug 30 22:08:22 I love my touchpad but for 300 I'd get a transformer... Aug 30 22:08:42 I have a friend who went into an apple store bought 200 iPads @750 each I jailbroke them for him at 10 bux a piece he repackaged them selling them jailbroken unopened for 1000 a piece sold em before he even bought em lol Aug 30 22:09:05 zondajag, i think we are getting somewhere. but there are lots of tests to be done Aug 30 22:09:44 good, atleast you can get the disaster recovery stuff down first Aug 30 22:10:10 jonpry: if u figure this out does that mean u can install lk as bootloader and never worry about bricking anymore? Aug 30 22:10:11 i keep wondering how they got cm7 on it when it had webos Aug 30 22:10:26 I noticed the dev tools for the board was like 1300 dollars Aug 30 22:10:27 if this works there will be no more bricks ever Aug 30 22:10:30 at least for me Aug 30 22:10:34 Lol Aug 30 22:11:01 mwahahaha Aug 30 22:11:03 evil Aug 30 22:11:04 It means u can finally delete all the partitions? Aug 30 22:11:06 i like it Aug 30 22:12:00 i think i will make a git repo for this nastyness Aug 30 22:12:43 what i miss!? Aug 30 22:12:52 wow so many people are getting their orders cancelled Aug 30 22:13:04 glad i got mine waiting in line at best buy that one sunday morning Aug 30 22:13:19 Sounds cool I'll join in when my device shows up I bought it off a friend and like I said yes I'll even take a brick for u guys to get thsis working Aug 30 22:13:48 claudia schiffers knickers Aug 30 22:14:08 yeah I just drove there and got in the exit side as they were locking the entrance side Aug 30 22:14:13 right at closing Aug 30 22:14:31 still waiting for my datavis order Aug 30 22:14:43 vistazifta88, we have simulated brick mode. which is actually better Aug 30 22:14:54 goddamit, whats the key combo for download mode? i forget and I can't find it Aug 30 22:15:24 I gotcha why is that better then brick if we can test it to unbrick a device? Aug 30 22:15:44 Then u know forsure if it works Aug 30 22:15:53 because the code is not done. and in order to debug it we need to boot back into webos Aug 30 22:16:14 andre_pl: it was vol- . but you need restart bevor Aug 30 22:16:22 and have usb attached Aug 30 22:16:26 I gotcha but when it is u have a tester willing to brick for u Aug 30 22:16:58 2 people have done sim brick today Aug 30 22:17:25 vistazifta88: no, you can access the "brickmode" with the keycombo. and i think there are several bricked devices around :/ Aug 30 22:17:26 I know I have been on all day Aug 30 22:18:00 the recovery tool in the works https://gitorious.org/msm-tp/qdl Aug 30 22:18:01 But u can't know that u fixed a brick for real untill u have actually fixed it Aug 30 22:18:23 Thanks jonpry u the man Aug 30 22:19:48 Awesome jonpry Aug 30 22:20:54 Recovery from brick not to be confused with cwm lol which is what lall the newbs will think Aug 30 22:21:01 All* Aug 30 22:21:21 jonpry: what method are you using for this debrick effort? Aug 30 22:21:37 we are uploading code via QDL Aug 30 22:22:10 jonpry: ah ok cool, we've been poking at that too but not very far along Aug 30 22:22:53 seems to be working ok. few more essentials to get ironed out Aug 30 22:23:57 What exatly do u plan on uploading via qdl if u don't mind my learning some stuff while I'm here Aug 30 22:24:11 eventually a flashing tool Aug 30 22:24:19 I'm sexy Aug 30 22:24:23 right now i am working on a c runtime Aug 30 22:25:32 how do you doing all this hacking stuff? you understanding assembly or something? just curious minded! Aug 30 22:25:50 So basically ur gonna load btldr, android, and recovery via qdl in one sweep? Aug 30 22:26:29 jonpry, so I took a nap in 1hr, I see you made progress. Aug 30 22:26:49 is there a bittorrent client for tp ? Aug 30 22:26:56 look right now what we can do is reboot a bricked or sim bricked touchpad into brick or sim bricked mode, lol Aug 30 22:27:01 adran yep Aug 30 22:27:12 utorrent I think in the app catalog Aug 30 22:27:29 farchord, are you ready for another go? i have more code Aug 30 22:27:50 jonpry, sure what the hell, hold on Aug 30 22:28:35 Yea but jonpry can u upload onto mmc through there while in that mode Aug 30 22:28:55 farchord, need to change that 0x2a000050 back to 0x2a000000. then get this and rename it to IMEM_A.BIN Aug 30 22:28:58 http://www.multiupload.com/H1YE2RTG94 Aug 30 22:29:18 vistazifta88, all we can do is reboot Aug 30 22:29:24 and reboot some more Aug 30 22:29:34 and tomorrow we will be rebooting too Aug 30 22:29:58 now what about reboot, is that an option? Aug 30 22:30:23 aiite rebooted into stupid mode, now let's see Aug 30 22:31:03 Aight u have my support to get to the next stage Aug 30 22:31:27 http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/cracking-open-the-hp-touchpad/6253940?seq=74&tag=thumbnail-view-selector;get-photo-roto Aug 30 22:31:32 teardown Aug 30 22:31:34 vistazifta88, awesome, that is all we needed to continue! Aug 30 22:32:10 k file renamed, script modified Aug 30 22:32:21 give it a go Aug 30 22:32:24 sh run_this_bitch.sh? Aug 30 22:32:25 k Aug 30 22:32:29 should be spectacular Aug 30 22:32:34 farchord: morality boosters? Aug 30 22:33:17 heya Aug 30 22:33:24 farchord, it should be showing up in dmesg as qcerial disconnected, then shortly qcserial connected Aug 30 22:34:45 jonpry, I ran your code.... didn't do anything but splurt out an error Aug 30 22:34:59 oh yeah? Aug 30 22:35:06 RECEIVED: 7e 02 6a d3 7e Aug 30 22:35:06 SENDING: 7e 05 2a 00 00 00 de ba 7e Aug 30 22:35:06 retval: 0 Aug 30 22:35:06 retval: 0 Aug 30 22:35:06 Failed to read response. Aug 30 22:35:14 thats normal Aug 30 22:35:30 did it do the qcserial thing in dmesg? Aug 30 22:35:56 ctrl+c and rerun should show it running again Aug 30 22:36:03 to the same place at least Aug 30 22:36:06 [20654.381098] usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 18 Aug 30 22:36:07 [20654.381526] qcserial ttyUSB0: Qualcomm USB modem converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0 Aug 30 22:36:07 [20654.381554] qcserial 1-1:1.0: device disconnected Aug 30 22:36:07 [20654.670088] usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 19 Aug 30 22:36:07 [20654.822229] qcserial 1-1:1.0: Qualcomm USB modem converter detected Aug 30 22:36:07 [20654.822486] usb 1-1: Qualcomm USB modem converter now attached to ttyUSB0 Aug 30 22:36:18 yeah baby Aug 30 22:36:34 yep Aug 30 22:36:37 does seem like it works Aug 30 22:36:44 that's awesome :D Aug 30 22:36:48 I'm so going to steal that code :P Aug 30 22:37:28 was that a reboot? Aug 30 22:37:34 farchord, something else i want to try but ETA 15 minutes Aug 30 22:37:36 jonpry, anything else? Aug 30 22:37:37 ok Aug 30 22:37:42 selling a touchpad brand new in box never opened 32GB, please pm me if interested Aug 30 22:37:58 RaYmAn, like that c runtime? Aug 30 22:38:01 conazo__: price? Aug 30 22:38:12 jonpry: yeah :P Aug 30 22:38:18 jonpry: did you make it or steal it? :P Aug 30 22:38:29 heh. i bought a second touchpad, should have bought more.. sold it to my employee. he's happy abou tit Aug 30 22:38:33 i started with somebody elses Aug 30 22:38:49 jonpry: I'll give credit if we end up using it for TF Aug 30 22:38:51 pluton, they say that if you make someone happy, it's a good act in itself Aug 30 22:39:19 farchord: he's an even bigger nerd than me, and when i showed him mine he was reallllly excited about it. Aug 30 22:39:23 I think that if you guys use qcserial to spurt out a helloworld on the TP, that would be great Aug 30 22:39:28 conazo__: rothnic needs one. And is a guy quite likely to actually get work done :P (given his track record) Aug 30 22:40:55 aiite well, brb gonna compile my pizza, wanted to do it earlier, but I decided to inject sleep into myself. Aug 30 22:40:59 what bothers me is that it's so hard to find the accessories for it. i wen tto a walmart and they had them in stock but at full price. and walmart.com won't price match it. Aug 30 22:41:14 lol Aug 30 22:41:19 pluton that sucks Aug 30 22:41:29 farchord: u still never gave me the pizza source code Aug 30 22:41:39 my staples matched walmarts price Aug 30 22:41:42 siestacat: the touchstone looks awesome. Aug 30 22:41:51 wireless charging and it looks sexy? sign me up Aug 30 22:42:04 pluton too expensive it's just a lazy charger Aug 30 22:42:17 vistazifta88, its frozen source Aug 30 22:42:19 I bought the case, maybe get the keyboard Aug 30 22:42:21 siestacat: yeah, but if you can get it for 50% off retail, it makes it worth it Aug 30 22:42:27 Haha Aug 30 22:42:31 siestacat: the portfolio/roll case? how is it? Aug 30 22:42:39 pluton amazing Aug 30 22:42:44 fits pefect Aug 30 22:42:49 nice Aug 30 22:42:56 that shit looks boss Aug 30 22:42:57 sexy and a good stand Aug 30 22:43:04 very nice looking Aug 30 22:43:11 siestacat: thanks Aug 30 22:43:16 anyone here use linux ? Aug 30 22:43:20 http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/cracking-open-the-hp-touchpad/6253940?seq=73 Aug 30 22:43:22 I di Aug 30 22:43:31 anyone know what switches s1 ~ s4 do? Aug 30 22:43:46 siestacat, whats the best audio player? Aug 30 22:43:46 nope Aug 30 22:43:54 i have a nook color that i had running cm7, now it's my gf's Aug 30 22:43:58 neer2005 isn't winamp available? Aug 30 22:44:13 PiXEL8: i always wondered what that SIM slot thing was for. didn't know it supported wwan too Aug 30 22:44:20 siestacat, it probably is but i just wanted to know peoples opinions Aug 30 22:44:33 jonpry: pm sent Aug 30 22:44:36 i can test for you Aug 30 22:44:52 bby? Aug 30 22:45:52 rhcp, why would he use you when he has me? :P Aug 30 22:46:03 http://t.co/piz0SX2 Aug 30 22:46:05 that's like exchanging a BMW for a volvo! Aug 30 22:46:06 lol Aug 30 22:46:08 jk Aug 30 22:46:09 farchord, http://www.multiupload.com/SY3MTBLCPB Aug 30 22:46:14 new .BIN Aug 30 22:46:25 k hold on Aug 30 22:46:28 The volvo is a nice family car. Aug 30 22:46:35 lol Aug 30 22:46:44 jonpry: fyi mediafire Aug 30 22:46:46 or dropbox Aug 30 22:46:46 :) Aug 30 22:47:00 farchord, wait i f'd it up Aug 30 22:47:02 but a volvo cant get you laid Aug 30 22:47:05 ok Aug 30 22:47:13 :( me drives a volvo and its not bad Aug 30 22:47:33 lol Aug 30 22:47:40 jonpry: so no testie? that link Aug 30 22:47:52 and mine is doing 240km/h ;) Aug 30 22:47:57 http://www.multiupload.com/7FOBNNSIWB Aug 30 22:48:00 this one Aug 30 22:48:07 vistazifta88, btw, it's an international pizza, meaning.... Bacon (Actually good bacon), oignons pepper.... the thing's freaking amazing, best frozen pizza on the market Aug 30 22:48:30 ouch Aug 30 22:48:41 WOW Aug 30 22:48:45 holy..... Aug 30 22:48:50 Nice just cleared half the Chanel Aug 30 22:48:51 oh dear!! Aug 30 22:49:18 oh yaa that is written in C Aug 30 22:49:19 jonpry, Aug 30 22:49:20 RECEIVED: 7e 02 6a d3 7e Aug 30 22:49:20 SENDING: 7e 05 2a 00 00 00 de ba 7e Aug 30 22:49:21 long ass asm Aug 30 22:49:22 LOL Aug 30 22:49:24 Seems to be frozen after this Aug 30 22:49:30 farchord: reboot it Aug 30 22:49:31 and try Aug 30 22:49:37 it always happends to me Aug 30 22:49:40 works on second attempt Aug 30 22:49:43 And farchord nvm I keep kosher these days lol for health reasons Aug 30 22:49:47 okay, hold on Aug 30 22:49:50 that command is supposed to hang Aug 30 22:49:56 o Aug 30 22:50:10 rhcp, then what are you making me do!? lol Aug 30 22:50:10 did it disappear and reppear in dmesg? Aug 30 22:50:34 or just gone? Aug 30 22:50:35 [21574.180304] qcserial 1-1:1.0: device disconnected Aug 30 22:50:36 [21574.470052] usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 20 Aug 30 22:50:36 [21579.600068] usb 1-1: device descriptor read/64, error -71 Aug 30 22:50:46 yeah looks like we crashed it :( Aug 30 22:50:53 farchord: anytime ur tp gets frozen put it in the microwave like the pizza Aug 30 22:51:16 vistazifta, shows what you know, my pizza is in the oven :P at 485F Aug 30 22:51:40 Mine too but most r in the microwave Aug 30 22:52:02 I do good old kosher mendelsons Aug 30 22:52:10 http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/cracking-open-the-hp-touchpad/6253940?seq=35 Aug 30 22:52:13 urgh, takes forever to install the QHSUSB driver for windows... Aug 30 22:52:18 jonpry, k TP is rebooting, anything else? Aug 30 22:52:28 I was in BB today. the lady said someone took one in with android running on it. Aug 30 22:52:29 another hidden button next to the card slot shield Aug 30 22:52:35 very interesting Aug 30 22:53:01 farchord, did it reboot by itself. that was the goal Aug 30 22:53:02 i went to bb today too. the guy i was talking with said he had a semi-working 2.2.1 installed Aug 30 22:53:13 no I had to hard reboot it, jonpry Aug 30 22:53:15 damn Aug 30 22:53:24 well i dont believe people that say they got it on there Aug 30 22:53:28 hattybin did you try to exchange yours with the android one ? Aug 30 22:53:36 but i will believe if one was brought in a manger i know who knows android saw it :) Aug 30 22:53:39 it was the salesman's personal one Aug 30 22:53:53 lol? Aug 30 22:54:16 wait so the TP actually HAS a SDCARD slot? Aug 30 22:54:20 farchord, i have another one if you to try it. http://www.multiupload.com/QI7DTEUVVG Aug 30 22:54:27 sure hold on Aug 30 22:54:32 basically we can make these until we find the end of IMEM Aug 30 22:54:40 tp does not Aug 30 22:54:46 have an sd card slot Aug 30 22:54:53 unless it's internal Aug 30 22:55:11 i like jonpry's idea of converting the sim to sd Aug 30 22:55:17 I believe its a sim card slot Aug 30 22:55:18 http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/cracking-open-the-hp-touchpad/6253940?seq=39&tag=thumbnail-view-selector;get-photo-roto Aug 30 22:55:48 yea it has a sim slot Aug 30 22:55:52 its meant to have 3G Aug 30 22:55:56 hence the radio Aug 30 22:56:05 question is does it work Aug 30 22:56:12 and the only way to find out. is to open it. so it seems eh? Aug 30 22:56:31 jonpry, hold on didnt reboot it right Aug 30 22:56:32 how friggen awesome would that be? hello virgin mobile unlimited Aug 30 22:56:37 I would rather 3G then sd personally Aug 30 22:57:04 wonder if that button can be reached through the sim slot Aug 30 22:57:33 PiXEL8: just cut ur casing lol Aug 30 22:57:42 noooo Aug 30 22:57:43 hehe Aug 30 22:57:47 Jkjkjkjk Aug 30 22:57:59 pussy :P Aug 30 22:58:31 it is very odd to spend $$ on buttons when they can't be accessed Aug 30 22:58:39 usually TPs or jumper through holes Aug 30 22:58:39 :O Aug 30 22:58:47 wow they all return at once Aug 30 22:58:50 O___o Aug 30 22:58:51 jonpry, that one works, it rebooted Aug 30 22:58:53 yeah... Aug 30 22:58:56 sd mod would be aces Aug 30 22:58:56 bits? Aug 30 22:59:01 bots Aug 30 22:59:02 RaYmAn, you get that :p Aug 30 22:59:03 oh word Aug 30 22:59:07 so we got reboot Aug 30 22:59:13 siestacat, no, netsplit recovery Aug 30 22:59:16 farchord, awesome. thanks a million. much to do now Aug 30 22:59:20 wait wait wait Aug 30 22:59:22 when I said reboot Aug 30 22:59:27 I meant it went off dmesg Aug 30 22:59:27 got it Aug 30 22:59:28 and came back Aug 30 22:59:32 oh Aug 30 22:59:34 samcrippTP: word up Aug 30 22:59:36 lol Aug 30 22:59:37 time to ROCK Aug 30 22:59:52 to bad I'm at work Aug 30 22:59:55 lol false alarm lol Aug 30 23:00:07 I need to figure out how to install preware Aug 30 23:00:13 samcrippTP: its easy Aug 30 23:00:13 brb checking on pizza Aug 30 23:00:14 if you hold like volume up or something while running it. is it different? Aug 30 23:00:16 its pretty simple Aug 30 23:00:18 want me to walk you? Aug 30 23:00:21 and where to find wirc Aug 30 23:00:30 preware Aug 30 23:00:31 samcrippTP: look in other chan ;) Aug 30 23:00:42 can I do it without a pc. I'm at work Aug 30 23:00:45 jonpry, nop Aug 30 23:00:48 nope Aug 30 23:00:52 no Aug 30 23:00:58 then no Aug 30 23:01:04 how about wrc Aug 30 23:01:05 touchpadroid.blogspot.com for tires on that Aug 30 23:01:09 wirc Aug 30 23:01:15 tutes Aug 30 23:01:16 o/ Aug 30 23:01:48 get and run WebOSQuickInstall-4.2.3.jar Aug 30 23:02:13 click the circle with arroes around it Aug 30 23:02:19 pic preware Aug 30 23:02:22 done Aug 30 23:02:35 dont need disk mode in webos Aug 30 23:02:46 works either way Aug 30 23:02:53 oh Aug 30 23:03:06 and dev mode needs to be activated Aug 30 23:03:21 Oh snap. samcrippTP got a TP? Aug 30 23:03:32 is their documentation on how to get recovery loaded yet? Aug 30 23:04:14 so you got it to dmsg which is agood thing Aug 30 23:04:24 what did it show? :) Aug 30 23:04:27 take a pic Aug 30 23:04:55 [22191.231687] qcserial ttyUSB0: Qualcomm USB modem converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0 Aug 30 23:04:55 [22191.231715] qcserial 1-1:1.0: device disconnected Aug 30 23:04:55 [22191.520101] usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 29 Aug 30 23:04:55 [22191.671983] qcserial 1-1:1.0: Qualcomm USB modem converter detected Aug 30 23:04:55 [22191.672163] usb 1-1: Qualcomm USB modem converter now attached to ttyUSB0 Aug 30 23:05:09 from a chromebook page; There is a nearly secret little switch next to the SIM slot that is used to put the system into “developer mode” which affords the user nearly complete control of the machine including installing a replacement OS, however, everything I will discuss here can be accomplished in regular user mode. Aug 30 23:05:12 the second disconnect is when I run the script Aug 30 23:05:35 got a TP for my bumhole. I still need a second one Aug 30 23:05:54 lol Aug 30 23:06:10 I believe it was BUNGhole. Aug 30 23:06:16 :D Aug 30 23:06:23 FIRE! Aug 30 23:06:27 progress! Aug 30 23:06:54 brb Aug 30 23:07:34 so jonpry was your tp beyond this method? Aug 30 23:07:39 lol Aug 30 23:07:42 spam Aug 30 23:07:44 woah... Aug 30 23:07:46 again Aug 30 23:08:11 spam? Aug 30 23:09:57 Wtf is with the splits lol Aug 30 23:10:08 i think a server has the runs today Aug 30 23:10:42 Yea cuz its in webos-internals also Aug 30 23:12:24 To answer the question about the 3g radio in the touchpad, its a dummy slot, there were supposed to be two models of the touchpad, one with gsm for at&t, and one with just WiFi. Due to HP canceling the touchpad the 3g version for at&t never saw the light of day, it never even made it to a testing with at&t. There is a teardown of the touchpad in iFixit that shows the internals on the touchpad with a metal dummy plate in place Aug 30 23:13:25 the teardown is located at the following link http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Installing-HP-TouchPad-Battery/6082/9 Aug 30 23:13:50 what are the multiupload files? Aug 30 23:14:01 the metal plate is an rf shield covering the sim socket shown here; http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/cracking-open-the-hp-touchpad/6253940?seq=39 Aug 30 23:15:09 Both were made but AT&T prob didn't want it so hp redid casing as sold em as wifi only models lol Aug 30 23:15:58 That's the only thing that Makes sense Aug 30 23:16:15 PIXEL8, that makes me wonder now if the are in fact 2 different versions of the touchpad in the wild Aug 30 23:17:14 i wonder what they are going to throw together for their last production run. Aug 30 23:17:35 I believe so, some people don't have the pop-out sim slot on the side Aug 30 23:17:38 my guess is use parts they already paid for.. just hadn't been assembled Aug 30 23:17:41 um im thinking that there was only ever one type of touchpad Aug 30 23:18:06 to drive down costs 3g was just made unavailable Aug 30 23:18:22 in the software Aug 30 23:18:26 like gps Aug 30 23:18:34 wishful thinking? Aug 30 23:18:40 so the does the hardware exist in the touchpad, and is just disabled Aug 30 23:18:58 someone said that Aug 30 23:18:58 the slot is there, but who knows Aug 30 23:19:05 but i hav eno idea Aug 30 23:19:07 that would be great if it is the case Aug 30 23:19:13 model HSTNH-I29C what are others? Aug 30 23:19:32 other what Aug 30 23:19:53 if there is a possibility of dif versions.... wouldnt that give it away? Aug 30 23:19:57 how is that c runtime coming along? Aug 30 23:20:00 well a 3g radio should show up in a hardware listing on the device in linux or android if it is just a software thing Aug 30 23:20:17 Would the 3G still work on touchpad if you put a sim in? Aug 30 23:21:00 maybe the are disabled at the kernal level Aug 30 23:21:07 only one way to find out, that would be to insert a sim and see what happens Aug 30 23:21:08 im talking out of my ass Aug 30 23:21:35 Does 3G need a special antenna? Aug 30 23:21:47 some devices dont use them now Aug 30 23:21:54 its hard to tell how its disabled because the device and this project is so new Aug 30 23:21:56 they work without Aug 30 23:22:21 smaller design and such Aug 30 23:22:52 going to do some looking on my touchpad and see what happens Aug 30 23:22:54 can anyone confirm my speculations? Aug 30 23:23:15 about the 3g antenna Aug 30 23:23:34 i tryed to get a sim into that slot but couldnt figure out how to cram it in there for the life of me (thats what she said) Aug 30 23:23:38 about all the components being there just blocked off somehow Aug 30 23:24:01 theres a blanking cover on the slot Aug 30 23:24:17 the sping loaded thing? Aug 30 23:24:20 link before shows it Aug 30 23:24:23 under that Aug 30 23:25:21 http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/cracking-open-the-hp-touchpad/6253940?seq=39 Aug 30 23:25:33 ive seen that image, do you mean that you need to remove the plastic cover compleatly inorder to insert a sim? Aug 30 23:25:54 its not a sim slot Aug 30 23:26:15 also didnt one of the videos of the touchpads that shipped with 2.2.1 so some "no sim inserted" message Aug 30 23:26:23 looking at the internal pics, the sim would go contacts facing up on top of the slot cover Aug 30 23:26:26 was gonna be when they were gonna come out with a 3g model, but that got ditched. Aug 30 23:27:19 wow ya dont listen very well. keep trying to put that sim in then. lol Aug 30 23:27:46 if thats not a sim slot what is it then Aug 30 23:28:04 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmpmlOpvoC0&t=0m42s Aug 30 23:28:04 it was gonna be on 3g models, but they never made any 3g models Aug 30 23:28:24 the socket pcb says 'SIM-AX1' on it Aug 30 23:28:34 and it has 6 contacts Aug 30 23:28:39 for a sim Aug 30 23:28:55 that link is the video i was talking about where andorid detected a 3g modem and wanted a sim Aug 30 23:29:03 android* Aug 30 23:30:00 wonder if they would not like you running it on 3g if they don't support the device? Maybe we could edit build.prop to show a diff device if thats the check? (like with the netflix app)....of course this is all assuming you guys could get it to work in the first place Aug 30 23:30:39 wish my wife didn't take the tp to class, would love to mess around with this right now =) Aug 30 23:30:46 the10thdentist: who is they? Aug 30 23:30:52 jonpry, aiite, ill reboot back into winblows for the evening, I wanna play XD Aug 30 23:30:54 someone with android already on the touchpad should take that inner cover off and try Aug 30 23:31:04 they = carrier Aug 30 23:31:13 ah Aug 30 23:31:17 as in the quic one Aug 30 23:31:30 anyone from this team have one of those? Aug 30 23:32:05 perhapse the quic tp's are a diffrent hardware revision Aug 30 23:32:21 can someone repost the link of the touchpad being opened plz Aug 30 23:32:29 http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/cracking-open-the-hp-touchpad/6253940?seq=39 Aug 30 23:32:29 so are you saying perhaps the 3g hardware is there but was disabled? Aug 30 23:32:33 thanks dude Aug 30 23:32:53 its just blocked up Aug 30 23:32:55 the hw is there Aug 30 23:33:05 and the software was never made to run it Aug 30 23:33:16 3g one was never released Aug 30 23:33:25 The hardware isn't there on my TP Aug 30 23:33:28 so no one knows any better right Aug 30 23:33:29 so is the sim clip removed easily ? Aug 30 23:33:41 No Aug 30 23:33:48 if u look Aug 30 23:33:51 the plastic door is not supposed to be removed Aug 30 23:34:01 the sim goes on top contacts up Aug 30 23:34:15 xSLAYERx: well in the techrepublic aritcal i didnt see any cell radio chips Aug 30 23:34:23 hrmm Aug 30 23:34:43 Not all of them have sim slots anyway Aug 30 23:34:48 They made 2 revisions Aug 30 23:34:52 no Aug 30 23:34:57 First one had slots, second didn't Aug 30 23:35:01 mine has the pop out slot but it doesn't look like theres any hardware inside to take the sim card Aug 30 23:35:03 they were covered Aug 30 23:35:04 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFozd_foe60 Aug 30 23:35:16 that black thing man Aug 30 23:35:34 zondajag: I know, I opened my touchpad already Aug 30 23:35:46 Mine didn't have a slot, but my friends did Aug 30 23:35:55 It appear that they made 2 revisions Aug 30 23:36:09 perhaspe they just put a sim reader with no radio so that the only change between the wifi and future 3g versions would be a diffrent mobo Aug 30 23:36:17 no case redesigne needed Aug 30 23:36:27 fewer inventory idems to manage at factories Aug 30 23:36:29 oh Aug 30 23:37:00 .....boydy i have the same slot...... Aug 30 23:37:16 darkredflame Aug 30 23:37:17 me too Aug 30 23:37:25 it just has sn on it Aug 30 23:37:25 I have a pompous thin but its just a s/n Aug 30 23:37:26 thanks for confirmation Aug 30 23:37:26 ive seen three, they all have it Aug 30 23:37:35 nothing else Aug 30 23:37:39 popout * Aug 30 23:37:39 ah shit Aug 30 23:37:40 They all have the slot Aug 30 23:37:40 me too Aug 30 23:37:43 I have the slot Aug 30 23:37:47 maybe someone can source that slot part Aug 30 23:37:47 i have a screen too... Aug 30 23:37:49 But some don't have the hw inside it Aug 30 23:38:00 i would want to see if lspci or lsusb show anything Aug 30 23:38:13 and if the quic ones are diffrent Aug 30 23:38:23 the ports must be made for other devices as well Aug 30 23:38:23 interesting find Aug 30 23:38:26 what about the network thing.. does everyone have that? Aug 30 23:38:27 might be a mod Aug 30 23:38:34 i have network mode Aug 30 23:38:34 perhaspe we shold be reading the numbers off the bottom of thoes plastic pullout things :-P Aug 30 23:38:35 on mine Aug 30 23:38:55 network mode? Aug 30 23:39:04 i get it haha very funny Aug 30 23:39:05 yea, if you check in system info Aug 30 23:39:17 mine has 'network' Aug 30 23:39:21 as in gsm Aug 30 23:39:23 hmmz Aug 30 23:39:25 ah Aug 30 23:39:26 wonder Aug 30 23:39:27 hmm, hold on Aug 30 23:39:41 mine has 4g Aug 30 23:39:41 i got no clue what kind of sim that is Aug 30 23:39:42 id test it Aug 30 23:39:57 wait Aug 30 23:40:02 i have it too Aug 30 23:40:08 carrier? Aug 30 23:40:09 lol Aug 30 23:40:10 Could mean network as in a office network Aug 30 23:40:10 mine says network - carrier- Aug 30 23:40:12 anyone got a micro sd? Aug 30 23:40:15 according to what we saw in dmesg Aug 30 23:40:18 err Aug 30 23:40:20 a 3g modem can be here Aug 30 23:40:21 mico ssim Aug 30 23:40:31 like from a iphone Aug 30 23:40:34 or lte device? Aug 30 23:40:36 I have a microsim Aug 30 23:40:43 apu95: have a pad? Aug 30 23:40:44 I co Aug 30 23:40:48 I do Aug 30 23:40:51 try it out Aug 30 23:40:51 TP? yup Aug 30 23:41:02 mine says carrier as well. Aug 30 23:41:02 whoever has mico sims Aug 30 23:41:04 lets see Aug 30 23:41:07 whereupon put a sim? Aug 30 23:41:08 I just joined the channel so I entered the convo in the middle Aug 30 23:41:12 would be interesting if it works Aug 30 23:41:18 I guess there's an area in the TP to put in a microsim? Aug 30 23:41:23 yea Aug 30 23:41:28 where? Aug 30 23:41:29 Where at? I'll check it out Aug 30 23:41:31 look below the volume buttons Aug 30 23:41:47 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFozd_foe60 Aug 30 23:41:50 I don't see Aug 30 23:41:52 this video shows where it is Aug 30 23:41:59 its hard to notice Aug 30 23:42:00 i never did Aug 30 23:42:02 till i saw video Aug 30 23:42:28 i thought it was just a case design .. like for cost savings for speakers etc Aug 30 23:42:31 in the molds Aug 30 23:42:36 me too Aug 30 23:42:37 :) Aug 30 23:42:41 never thought to push on it Aug 30 23:42:42 lol Aug 30 23:43:04 wow Aug 30 23:43:07 it nearly comes out Aug 30 23:43:20 I was about to ask Aug 30 23:43:21 no that's not for a sim Aug 30 23:43:23 How to actually open it Aug 30 23:43:23 how strange Aug 30 23:43:36 its jot sim Aug 30 23:43:40 not Aug 30 23:43:43 http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/nUSw1VMZhm2DAQ1J.huge Aug 30 23:43:46 they all have that Aug 30 23:43:46 bottom left corner... Aug 30 23:43:50 its for us reps Aug 30 23:43:59 yeah its just an s/n Aug 30 23:44:08 Yeah, it's a way to see the SN Aug 30 23:44:09 not micro sim Aug 30 23:44:12 makes sense.. since its not plaster anywhere Aug 30 23:44:13 it has pad yea for serial info Aug 30 23:44:13 No special slot :( Aug 30 23:44:21 haha. how did this guy not see them on his other touchpads? Aug 30 23:44:27 [ 2.702182] usbserial: USB Serial Driver core Aug 30 23:44:27 [ 2.706287] USB Serial support registered for Huawei GSM modem (1-port) Aug 30 23:44:28 [ 2.713087] usbcore: registered new interface driver option_huawei Aug 30 23:44:28 [ 2.719300] USB Serial support registered for Sierra USB modem Aug 30 23:44:28 [ 2.725152] usbcore: registered new interface driver sierra Aug 30 23:44:28 lol Aug 30 23:44:35 perhaspe there is some hardware modem Aug 30 23:44:41 its under the metal thing Aug 30 23:44:41 there is Aug 30 23:44:52 http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/cracking-open-the-hp-touchpad/6253940?seq=39 Aug 30 23:44:58 anyone test a sim yet? Aug 30 23:45:06 i cant get it open Aug 30 23:45:09 you push it Aug 30 23:45:30 but theres a cover over it Aug 30 23:45:35 I push it and the sn number thing came out Aug 30 23:45:40 But there's no way to put in the sim card Aug 30 23:45:46 Unless you maybe open the TP entirely? Aug 30 23:45:53 no shit, none of the electronics are there for it Aug 30 23:45:56 the slot has some kind of blocker Aug 30 23:46:03 nah Aug 30 23:46:04 the 3g one will have a recess in that tray Aug 30 23:46:05 no block here Aug 30 23:46:11 i gcan pop something in there Aug 30 23:46:15 XD whaaaaat Aug 30 23:46:15 i just dont have a micro sd Aug 30 23:46:18 You're not blocked?? Aug 30 23:46:25 WTF how many variations are there? XD Aug 30 23:46:27 mine wont come out all the way Aug 30 23:46:34 nodnarb: me too Aug 30 23:46:44 mines the same Aug 30 23:46:50 heeeey Aug 30 23:46:51 oh wait i am blocked Aug 30 23:46:55 but that doesnt matter Aug 30 23:46:57 we cut it Aug 30 23:47:03 i like... Aug 30 23:47:03 i doubt theres any variations in the product, just the clowns talking about them Aug 30 23:47:04 if I didn't have sprint I'd try one on mine Aug 30 23:47:05 heh Aug 30 23:47:06 rhcp under prperties what model does it say A or B? Aug 30 23:47:09 http://www.pcmag.com/slideshow_viewer/0,3253,l%253D266785%2526a%253D266786%2526po%253D1,00.asp?p=n Aug 30 23:47:13 the tablet? Aug 30 23:47:18 how could you put a sim in that sloc Aug 30 23:47:19 yup Aug 30 23:47:20 theres no 3g radio, you are wasting your time Aug 30 23:47:20 sec Aug 30 23:47:21 slot Aug 30 23:47:25 there is not circut Aug 30 23:47:29 circuit on it Aug 30 23:48:03 http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/cracking-open-the-hp-touchpad/6253940?seq=39 Aug 30 23:48:06 i wish there was a gps in it thats just not accessable by software yet. thatd be nice Aug 30 23:48:12 nobody is charging $100 more for a 3g version and still putting all the electronics in the wifi version Aug 30 23:48:22 gps is in the chipset Aug 30 23:48:25 maybe Aug 30 23:48:47 gps would need an antenna tho i suppose? Aug 30 23:49:04 evil-doer: there are single chip gps receivers Aug 30 23:49:15 no support parts Aug 30 23:49:35 <[koss]> seems to me they'd enable it if it existed Aug 30 23:49:37 whats the diff between hardware ver a and b? Aug 30 23:49:38 i figured it out Aug 30 23:49:40 <[koss]> this isn't a nook Aug 30 23:49:42 i have an A Aug 30 23:49:42 so simple Aug 30 23:50:06 <[koss]> figured what out Aug 30 23:50:10 the sim slot is spring loaded Aug 30 23:50:30 the part on the touchpad goes into the slot Aug 30 23:50:48 the bits on the side prevent you from taking it out Aug 30 23:51:05 here is a pic with a sim in it http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/03/3-6-11-tinhte.vn4d724995abab5tmh8652.jpg Aug 30 23:51:08 so a sim wouldnt fit Aug 30 23:51:24 oh wait Aug 30 23:51:24 can anyone test this out now? Aug 30 23:51:26 thats not a mico Aug 30 23:51:28 as the plastic goes in the port instead Aug 30 23:51:29 thats a full Aug 30 23:51:38 isnt it? Aug 30 23:51:39 yeh aint a microsim by the looks of it Aug 30 23:51:39 in the pic Aug 30 23:51:43 mine doesn't have 3g or 4g just sn Aug 30 23:51:46 rhcp: that's a mini sim Aug 30 23:51:50 not full Aug 30 23:51:54 you sure? Aug 30 23:51:57 it looks full to me Aug 30 23:52:03 thats full Aug 30 23:52:10 A full sim is the size of a credit card Aug 30 23:52:14 look Aug 30 23:52:15 no its not Aug 30 23:52:15 lol Aug 30 23:52:17 no Aug 30 23:52:18 hahah wtf Aug 30 23:52:20 it is not Aug 30 23:52:20 think it would read a sim for contacts Aug 30 23:52:22 what are you on drugs? Aug 30 23:52:26 DarkRedFlame: Think SD card Aug 30 23:52:26 DarkRedFlame: nope.avi Aug 30 23:52:37 the plastic fills the space in the sim slot Aug 30 23:52:40 waffles: yep.mpg Aug 30 23:52:42 the credit card looking thing is the SIM HOLDER Aug 30 23:52:43 lol Aug 30 23:52:47 you break the sim off it Aug 30 23:52:48 minisim not microsim Aug 30 23:52:49 its small Aug 30 23:52:50 :P Aug 30 23:52:59 haha tard Aug 30 23:52:59 i think its a normal att/tmo sim Aug 30 23:53:01 if you ask me Aug 30 23:53:05 all they have don is put a different peice of plastic there Aug 30 23:53:11 learn to sim http://cdn.gottabemobile.com/wp-content/uploads/365px-GSM_Micro_SIM_Card_vs._GSM_Mini_Sim_Card.svg_.png Aug 30 23:53:11 its a normal size sim Aug 30 23:53:27 you take them out of the dotted lines... Aug 30 23:53:30 minisim = normal sim Aug 30 23:53:41 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Telia_micro_SIM_with_brackets.jpg Aug 30 23:53:42 we use in all tmo/att phones Aug 30 23:53:47 get it together Aug 30 23:53:48 now Aug 30 23:53:55 someone. with balls. and right tools Aug 30 23:53:56 cut it out Aug 30 23:53:59 the plastic Aug 30 23:54:00 I'm just saying a full size sim is a credit card sized Aug 30 23:54:09 if a sim was the size of a credit card I would hate to see the size of the phone Aug 30 23:54:13 look at the pic... it has full, mini, micro Aug 30 23:54:31 lnxsrt has the pic to explain Aug 30 23:54:50 Wait... if we ordered the part that's missing and installed it into our TPs ourselves. Would the system recognize it? Or is the actual 3G radio still missing in there? Aug 30 23:54:50 ill take a pic Aug 30 23:54:51 @rhcp why cut the slot? Aug 30 23:54:53 DarkRedFlame, a sim is not the size of a credit card Aug 30 23:54:54 comparison Aug 30 23:54:59 cut the slot Aug 30 23:55:07 DarkRedFlame: oh hey, i didnt realize there were three form factors indeed full size sim is iso7810 ID-1 Aug 30 23:55:10 theres a square where the sim should sit Aug 30 23:55:24 its there to hold the sim into the socket and close the opening Aug 30 23:55:24 maube someone can make a mold of that plastic peice Aug 30 23:55:29 is anyone testing this? Aug 30 23:55:36 i mean actually doing it? Aug 30 23:55:38 waffles: No problem, I just remember having to use a full size sim once, and I never forgot Aug 30 23:55:39 I found it days ago Aug 30 23:55:45 just do not know that it is for Aug 30 23:55:45 u can cut a regular sim into a micro i did it for my phone no need to cut the touchpad frame Aug 30 23:55:59 no cutout on mine so maybe some models Aug 30 23:56:03 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Telia_micro_SIM_with_brackets.jpg Aug 30 23:56:05 XD Aug 30 23:56:16 "how much useless plastic do you want?" Aug 30 23:56:18 its just a different peice of plastic Aug 30 23:56:21 blizz5243 what hw model do you have? A or B Aug 30 23:56:48 ...and the channel has come to life about a spring loaded something or another.... Aug 30 23:56:54 A Aug 30 23:57:11 well if anyone finds a tp with a sim depression in it open it up and take photos of the boards Aug 30 23:57:15 mine is A also with the sim socket Aug 30 23:57:16 http://www.ebay.com/itm/140599813148?afepn=5335869999&campid=5335869999&PID=1225267 Aug 30 23:57:23 its spring loaded and its because of the slot Aug 30 23:57:38 myn: that is too gay Aug 30 23:57:41 anyone bids on that LOL Aug 30 23:57:42 haha Aug 30 23:57:45 its part of that mechanism Aug 30 23:57:54 rhcp, send me your address, gonna buy you one :) Aug 30 23:58:04 I will buy one for myself too Aug 30 23:58:05 hehe Aug 30 23:58:10 not interested Aug 30 23:58:19 im not gonig to put a bumber sticker on my ML430 Aug 30 23:58:20 :) Aug 30 23:58:21 I have a slide that comes out with a copla bar codes and serials no depression its flat Aug 30 23:58:23 for some reason this convo reminds me of the guy that put NOS drink into his car... Aug 30 23:58:23 http://www.techrepublic.com/videos/dojo/hp-touchpad-teardown-and-hardware-analysis/6254112 3.43 into vid Aug 30 23:58:36 I wouldn't put one on my 335I either :) Aug 30 23:59:33 http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/07/hp-touchpad-emerges-from-the-vietnamese-wilds-sporting-sim-slot/ Aug 30 23:59:37 I would put one on my Schwinn bike Aug 30 23:59:44 video on there at 0:40 he puts a sim in Aug 30 23:59:47 [06:53pm] [myn] http://www.ebay.com/itm/140599813148?afepn=5335869999&campid=5335869999&PID=1225267 <------- someone needs to make one that says honk if you paid $150 for a 32GB because i didnt pay $99 for my 32GB TP Aug 30 23:59:54 mine has that slot Aug 31 00:00:10 i pulled out the plastic platter all the way, whooopsy Aug 31 00:00:11 hattybin: pics or it didnt happen Aug 31 00:00:14 ok Aug 31 00:00:24 they all have it Aug 31 00:00:27 ihasbignoodle, Item has been pulled or so it says Aug 31 00:00:30 maybe Aug 31 00:00:38 well ok nm its my country Aug 31 00:00:40 fuck canada Aug 31 00:01:02 its slot is different from mine Aug 31 00:01:07 its cheaper for a company to make one model and find some other way to impose the limitation to differentiate the models Aug 31 00:01:09 it has a corner off Aug 31 00:01:21 its the plastic thats different Aug 31 00:01:49 replace that peice and it will work Aug 31 00:02:11 there are grooves that line up with the sim port Aug 31 00:02:17 im guessing Aug 31 00:02:18 ...overclocking touchpad shows command line startup information.... odd? Aug 31 00:02:21 example of selling hardware with disabled features: my amd x3 cpu. completely simple to unlock fourth core.. amd just disabled it to save money manufacturing 2 different devices Aug 31 00:03:13 watson769, so the X3 is actually an X4 with a botched core? Aug 31 00:03:16 that's stupid Aug 31 00:03:18 yup Aug 31 00:03:21 it really is. Aug 31 00:03:22 how cheap would it be to make the peice of plastic different Aug 31 00:03:28 youd be surprised Aug 31 00:03:29 very Aug 31 00:03:37 cpu binning is much more complicated than that Aug 31 00:03:45 i think i have a x2 that was a x4 Aug 31 00:03:48 anyone know the progress of finding out GPS and HDMI capabilites of the touchpad? Aug 31 00:03:54 that ive unlocked Aug 31 00:04:06 works perfectly Aug 31 00:04:07 its silly, but a good way to save money lol Aug 31 00:04:09 hdmi.??????woot? Aug 31 00:04:16 no Aug 31 00:04:23 hdmi will never happen Aug 31 00:04:24 i paid $75 for a triple core @3.0ghz Aug 31 00:04:24 dont jumpt to conclusions Aug 31 00:04:30 unlocked 4th, OC to 3.2 Aug 31 00:04:32 quite a few companys do that Aug 31 00:04:40 HDMI yeah, okay XD Aug 31 00:04:57 yeah ive got a 4 core amd at 3.2 as well. was cheap as hell. its my shitbox computer Aug 31 00:05:09 who knows Aug 31 00:05:10 hdmi is supported by the hardware but not mad use of on the board probably Aug 31 00:05:15 i think i heard a rumour that a person who bricked their tp, opened it up and found hdmi hardware Aug 31 00:05:17 my xps shit the bed sun Aug 31 00:05:23 see what webos find with their teardown Aug 31 00:05:31 i thought cnet or some site did an extensive teardown of the touchpad already Aug 31 00:05:34 a while back Aug 31 00:05:50 http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/cracking-open-the-hp-touchpad/6253940?seq=39 Aug 31 00:05:50 tecrepub Aug 31 00:06:04 teardown of a "wifi" touchpad Aug 31 00:06:26 did it have the same sim card as, say, the one I have? Aug 31 00:06:28 yeah thats not shipping hardware Aug 31 00:06:30 slot* Aug 31 00:06:33 that black piece slides in into the slot Aug 31 00:06:58 thats what she said Aug 31 00:07:04 instead of a sim card Aug 31 00:07:10 lol Aug 31 00:07:18 who said hdmi couldn't happen? Aug 31 00:07:27 http://www.cellularaccessory.com/ecc1hu0bbeb.html Aug 31 00:07:54 http://blog.laptopmag.com/video-hands-on-hp-touchpad-4g-for-att-sports-faster-1-5-ghz-processor/att-hp-touchpad-hand-on-sim-card Aug 31 00:09:06 anywhere you can keep up with the progress of this project Aug 31 00:09:14 i understand there's different groups Aug 31 00:09:23 http://team-touchdroid.com/wiki/index.php?title=Current_Progress Aug 31 00:09:36 has that page even been updated in the last 3 days? Aug 31 00:09:48 Updated on the 27th Aug 31 00:09:51 28th Aug 31 00:09:58 yeah so Aug 31 00:10:15 there's no other way Aug 31 00:10:25 No be patient Aug 31 00:10:32 i find it extremely interesting Aug 31 00:10:38 i'm in no hurry to have android Aug 31 00:10:41 quite like webos Aug 31 00:10:48 Then stick around the irc Aug 31 00:10:57 this one+ Aug 31 00:10:58 ? Aug 31 00:11:01 yep Aug 31 00:11:04 alrighty then Aug 31 00:11:06 We have dev talk in here a lot Aug 31 00:11:07 t Aug 31 00:11:13 It's just dead right now' Aug 31 00:11:21 alright Aug 31 00:11:44 so what happened with the sim card? Aug 31 00:11:53 hopefully most devs have got tps by now Aug 31 00:12:06 A bunch do and don't Aug 31 00:12:13 TPs are still rare to come by Aug 31 00:12:23 who has taken their tp apart here? Aug 31 00:12:29 homer no one knows how to put a card face up on the slot cover Aug 31 00:12:29 Me Aug 31 00:12:34 we could all be embarrasses and ask for an eta all at the same time, lmao Aug 31 00:12:50 damm spellcheck Aug 31 00:13:05 Brobbins87, I dare you to. Aug 31 00:13:07 I meant smartasses Aug 31 00:13:09 ETA: When Duke Nukem Forever comes out Aug 31 00:13:11 Oh wait Aug 31 00:13:19 lawl Aug 31 00:13:21 what they released doesnt count Aug 31 00:13:23 i dont think it'll take that long tbh, progress has gone extremely quick Aug 31 00:13:43 and the cyanogen guys are machines Aug 31 00:13:44 ETA: When HL2 Episode 3 comes out. Aug 31 00:13:48 ^ Aug 31 00:13:49 duke came out...it sucked Aug 31 00:13:58 farchord, I know better than to try that one, lol Aug 31 00:14:21 eta=estimated tacos eaten? Aug 31 00:14:26 whatever happened to trshomers, he was always all talk but no show Aug 31 00:14:28 err dummie Aug 31 00:14:47 is he still deving for the tp? Aug 31 00:14:57 ashtrai: I don't think so Aug 31 00:14:59 yeah, supposedly releasing in 6 days Aug 31 00:15:03 within 6 days* Aug 31 00:15:05 can anyone say permaban, lol Aug 31 00:15:07 6 days huh Aug 31 00:15:23 ashtrai: don't believe it Aug 31 00:15:27 ^ Aug 31 00:15:34 yup very sceptical when it comes to trshomers Aug 31 00:16:09 i think if theres any progress during this week it'll be from the cyanogen tema Aug 31 00:16:10 tema Aug 31 00:16:11 i dont doubt hes decent at programming etc but this whole mess of a project leaves one a bit sceptical Aug 31 00:16:12 team Aug 31 00:16:16 goddamn autocorrect Aug 31 00:16:19 guys Aug 31 00:16:28 enough talk about trsohmers please. Aug 31 00:16:33 no need to rehash old drama Aug 31 00:16:37 yeah Aug 31 00:16:40 true, true Aug 31 00:16:43 autocorrect gotta hate it Aug 31 00:17:38 In other news Aug 31 00:17:39 i always thought the qualcomm team would release the android port first Aug 31 00:17:52 good PR Aug 31 00:17:52 $5 for amazon instant stream - https://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html?ie=UTF8&ref_=tsm_1_tw_s_aiv_lqehl1&docId=1000714001 Aug 31 00:18:00 lol thatd be too convenient Aug 31 00:18:05 he probably went into hiding to crash dev and get this thing done, lol Aug 31 00:18:48 someone very persuasive should call up the qualcomm development office and try to milk it out of them Aug 31 00:19:00 I GOT THESE CHEESEBURGERS MAN Aug 31 00:19:48 wish the others teams talked and work together or at least shared progress Aug 31 00:19:49 technically isn't it open-source, they could strip it of any internal secrets and then hand it over Aug 31 00:19:53 anyone know why ubuntu isnt letting me rw an hfsplus partition without SU ? Aug 31 00:19:53 and after i access it as SU, it wont let me change permissions Aug 31 00:20:36 thx Aug 31 00:20:39 Congratulations! Aug 31 00:20:42 We have successfully applied a $5 credit to your Amazon.com account, good for movies and TV shows at Amazon Instant Video. Aug 31 00:20:47 :P Aug 31 00:21:01 rhcp: No problem, sharing the love Aug 31 00:21:16 neer2005: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HFS_Plus#Linux Aug 31 00:21:25 probably has a journal. ro only Aug 31 00:21:31 so GPS then. aGPS or real one? Aug 31 00:21:55 lnxsrt: dude Aug 31 00:22:01 i will tell you from MAJOR experience Aug 31 00:22:03 DO NOT DO THAT Aug 31 00:22:13 like no joke Aug 31 00:22:21 lnxsrt, you sir are amazing Aug 31 00:22:21 i was almost CRYING for a month Aug 31 00:22:36 whoever is going to try that dont Aug 31 00:22:41 esp with -force for rw Aug 31 00:22:52 you;ve been warned Aug 31 00:22:52 :) Aug 31 00:23:05 try it anyway, itll be fun Aug 31 00:23:09 haha, yea i did that on an ntfs partition back in the day Aug 31 00:23:14 when write support was very new Aug 31 00:23:18 seripsly Aug 31 00:23:21 it fucks your shit Aug 31 00:23:24 hardCORE Aug 31 00:23:29 it took me a month to restore the data Aug 31 00:23:34 lnxsrt, i gotta turn off journaling Aug 31 00:23:40 you dont Aug 31 00:23:45 it works with jourling Aug 31 00:23:47 if you turn it off Aug 31 00:23:48 and it fucks Aug 31 00:23:49 how? Aug 31 00:23:51 bye data Aug 31 00:24:02 mount -t hfsplus /OSXVOL /blah Aug 31 00:24:05 for RO Aug 31 00:24:08 if you want rw Aug 31 00:24:12 i tried it Aug 31 00:24:17 it wont let me write Aug 31 00:24:25 mount -o force -t hfsplus /osx /blah Aug 31 00:24:28 that allows rw Aug 31 00:24:32 ok hold onn Aug 31 00:24:34 but as i said. beware Aug 31 00:24:38 if yo ufuck it up Aug 31 00:24:40 dont blame me Aug 31 00:24:48 yea, don't do it Aug 31 00:25:44 wtf the touchpad has a sim slot? Aug 31 00:25:50 wierd... Aug 31 00:25:57 OH MAN IT'S DAMAGELESS, STOP TALKING BEHIND HIS BACK Aug 31 00:26:09 rhcp, i got mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, Aug 31 00:26:09 missing codepage or helper program, or other error Aug 31 00:26:09 In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try Aug 31 00:26:09 dmesg | tail or so Aug 31 00:26:14 Oh hey whats on damageless Aug 31 00:28:15 woah hp is doing another touchpad ota? Aug 31 00:28:17 http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/30/hp-touchpad-will-receive-ota-udpate-for-added-functionality/ Aug 31 00:28:26 lloks like damageless is sleeping and left his thing at auto join lol as i watched him get reset by peer before and was like when will his web go back up Aug 31 00:28:29 sorry if old news Aug 31 00:29:06 isnt that just the office app? Aug 31 00:29:17 or is it a new version of webos? Aug 31 00:29:23 i believe new version of webos Aug 31 00:29:28 hold on i just skimmed article Aug 31 00:29:33 ill read it through again Aug 31 00:29:40 its webOS update Aug 31 00:29:45 in addition to the quick office update Aug 31 00:29:48 So. Do we have android booting? Aug 31 00:29:50 new ota not just office Aug 31 00:29:57 yep Aug 31 00:30:00 well that suxs Aug 31 00:30:01 lol Aug 31 00:30:06 yeah lol Aug 31 00:30:08 i hope it doesnt do anything normal Aug 31 00:30:09 err Aug 31 00:30:10 i mean bad Aug 31 00:30:18 hopefully everything still functions as 3.0.2 Aug 31 00:30:20 dont get your hopes up lol Aug 31 00:30:35 and the 3.0.2 kernel boots it Aug 31 00:30:42 hopefully its just a minor update Aug 31 00:30:53 i would actually lol if they just roll out android and take the 2k bounty =) Aug 31 00:31:23 "We expect that HP TouchPad owners can look forward to an over-the-air update that will enhance the platform and a growing applications catalog" Aug 31 00:31:25 http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/8956/wifitouchpadhassimslotp.png Aug 31 00:31:30 see Aug 31 00:32:02 lol you just make that zonda? Aug 31 00:32:23 So can we get 3g signal on these then? Aug 31 00:32:31 Signals Aug 31 00:32:43 nope Aug 31 00:33:02 yeh Aug 31 00:33:14 how is there two different slots? Mine is like the one in the teardown and korean site Aug 31 00:33:38 http://blog.laptopmag.com/video-hands-on-hp-touchpad-4g-for-att-sports-faster-1-5-ghz-processor/att-hp-touchpad-hand-on-sim-card Aug 31 00:33:44 theres one with the blocked out plastic peice Aug 31 00:33:52 So wait...we have 3G modems? Aug 31 00:33:58 mine has a spot there too :O Aug 31 00:34:03 possible Aug 31 00:34:04 mine has the plastic piece i think Aug 31 00:34:07 mine has the same as the imageshack photo Aug 31 00:34:13 they all have sometihng there Aug 31 00:34:32 has anyone been able to put a sim and and see what happens? Aug 31 00:34:51 BatNode: yes we do Aug 31 00:34:59 a co-worker is bringing me one tomorrow to try Aug 31 00:34:59 but the sim area is not connected to the radio Aug 31 00:35:01 i heard Aug 31 00:35:05 OH LORD- Wait what Aug 31 00:35:06 rhcp :O Aug 31 00:35:12 holy shit haha Aug 31 00:35:13 so you'd need to heardware hack it Aug 31 00:35:15 3g modem implys gps right? Aug 31 00:35:22 we already knew we had gps Aug 31 00:35:26 old news Aug 31 00:35:28 is there a link for more info so i dont' have to shit up the chan? Aug 31 00:35:39 link? Aug 31 00:35:55 yes, its this new thing on the internet Aug 31 00:36:00 simgpsandhdmifortouchpad.com Aug 31 00:36:15 #CMTouchPad has all the news and info on the CM team's work Aug 31 00:36:28 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_TouchPad#Connectivity Aug 31 00:36:47 the guy who did the unbrickable captivate mod...wonder if he'd be able to find an easy way to wire it in? Aug 31 00:36:56 waffles wrong :P Aug 31 00:36:59 who needs 1.5 ghz processor if you have over clocking Aug 31 00:37:07 you have a 1.5G proc Aug 31 00:37:13 the chip is stock 1.5 Aug 31 00:37:16 downclocked Aug 31 00:37:40 someone show me the radio chip then Aug 31 00:37:59 So what. Aug 31 00:38:12 We have GPS and 1.5 GHz CPU built-in? Aug 31 00:38:43 just did a quick search and didnt see an answer....is there a way to hide join/quit msg? Aug 31 00:38:55 sorry completely offtopic Aug 31 00:39:15 depends on your irc client Aug 31 00:39:18 what irc app you using? Aug 31 00:39:27 just using freenode Aug 31 00:40:19 ... Aug 31 00:40:57 im on a samsung continuum so i never faced this problem Aug 31 00:40:57 no the webclient is completely uncustomizable Aug 31 00:41:08 fukshiz Aug 31 00:41:11 k Aug 31 00:43:10 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_TouchPad#Other_models Aug 31 00:43:35 ok now that im getting a reply...what are the uploads from earlier? Aug 31 00:43:43 I like my Touchpad a lot Aug 31 00:44:45 i see that we have a semi-working cwm Aug 31 00:45:32 unfortunatly we have no pizza Aug 31 00:45:56 i dont know where the radio chip is even on the 3g model Aug 31 00:56:19 trsohmers Aug 31 01:02:18 there is no 3g modem in the wifi touchpad Aug 31 01:02:27 this is confirmed by former HP person Aug 31 01:02:33 does anyone still have ionvites for google music? Aug 31 01:02:33 the soc used is a non modem version Aug 31 01:03:24 yeh i see that now Aug 31 01:03:32 the slots there Aug 31 01:03:39 but it has nothing to connect to Aug 31 01:03:41 my bad Aug 31 01:03:43 beasT_ pm ur email and ill send you an invite Aug 31 01:04:17 how do i PM on a webchat loll Aug 31 01:04:28 a sim slot thats not attached to anything haha Aug 31 01:05:00 u usr /msg name and message i believe Aug 31 01:05:25 waffles: android will show that message if there's a ril (such as an emulator build) but no modem Aug 31 01:05:28 im intrigued to see what the insides of a 3g touchpad looks like Aug 31 01:05:43 it's it's an 8060 no modem Aug 31 01:06:42 farchord: did you find a way to recover? Aug 31 01:06:57 i thought it was an 8860 Aug 31 01:07:03 can we get a brief over view of the progress thus far? Aug 31 01:07:08 tmzt_, yeah, I took a one hour nap Aug 31 01:07:14 did farchord destroy his touchpad Aug 31 01:07:14 none so far Aug 31 01:07:24 i got a G-Music invite Aug 31 01:07:27 if you want it Aug 31 01:07:42 i destroyed your mind Aug 31 01:07:45 mwhahah Aug 31 01:07:51 im going to bed Aug 31 01:07:58 too late Aug 31 01:08:05 sleepy Aug 31 01:08:14 Any news? Aug 31 01:08:24 looks like the qualcomm kernel has support for some usb 3g modems Aug 31 01:08:28 no freaking news Aug 31 01:08:42 well guys Aug 31 01:08:44 you wanted an update Aug 31 01:08:48 https://twitter.com/#!/rhcp011235/status/108706484392706048 Aug 31 01:08:49 external yeh Aug 31 01:08:52 retweet away Aug 31 01:09:10 <3 the colors Aug 31 01:09:41 AG0243.jpg Aug 31 01:09:41 (1.19 MB) Aug 31 01:09:58 @rhcp -- ever get touch working? Aug 31 01:10:12 yeah its already been done rhcp, get touch working, with a video :) Aug 31 01:10:13 ooh Aug 31 01:10:14 OOOOOOOh yea thats a good update.. Aug 31 01:10:21 working on it guys :) Aug 31 01:10:23 one thing at a time Aug 31 01:10:23 whats the change in the kernal? Aug 31 01:10:24 :) Aug 31 01:10:25 nice job... Aug 31 01:10:27 :) Aug 31 01:10:33 thanks to Flemmard` and jonpry as said Aug 31 01:10:36 AOSP > CM7 Aug 31 01:10:46 imo Aug 31 01:11:04 well, we will have OMFGB ported Aug 31 01:11:12 which is AOSPish + partially cm7 stuffs Aug 31 01:11:15 i want that Aug 31 01:11:21 nice :) Aug 31 01:11:25 what's in getting the touch to work, as I am a tard in the ways of dev Aug 31 01:11:55 I want BeOS ported to it Aug 31 01:12:02 awesome Aug 31 01:12:04 so what does the twitter status give u Aug 31 01:12:28 re-tweet it Aug 31 01:12:28 pz Aug 31 01:12:29 you guys are doing awesome work, its cool to sit in here and watch the collaboration Aug 31 01:12:43 i want to open it but i dont know what it is Aug 31 01:12:45 Wulfegang whats BeOS? Aug 31 01:12:49 you want to open it... Aug 31 01:13:03 BeOS is an old old OS that was short lived. Aug 31 01:13:20 Wulfegang: only if I can have NeXT OS on it Aug 31 01:13:27 I agree. I dont like to think of my self as a lurker... but I am on this project. Its awesome to watch. now back to my peep hole Aug 31 01:13:28 :D Aug 31 01:13:43 woah Aug 31 01:13:47 rhcp: So what are you guys actually doing atm Aug 31 01:13:47 congrats!!! Aug 31 01:13:48 ? Aug 31 01:13:50 blizz5243: if they did they could juumpstart an HP app market Aug 31 01:14:00 and move that over to PCs or post-PC laptops Aug 31 01:14:07 I wrote this up on g+ over a week agao :) Aug 31 01:14:09 so you get the dual boot thing going? Aug 31 01:14:13 farchord: its it obvious Aug 31 01:14:14 lol NeXT step Aug 31 01:14:15 tmzt_: !!!!! Aug 31 01:14:20 :) Aug 31 01:14:22 next step touchscreen Aug 31 01:14:23 lol Aug 31 01:14:23 or you started to focus on debricking Aug 31 01:14:26 NeXT step was the shit Aug 31 01:14:28 ._, Aug 31 01:14:32 also, Moto went Google, seems to be serisouly working on Webtop Aug 31 01:14:37 i just want to learn what goes into hardware development so its cool to lurk and see what proccess you guys are going through Aug 31 01:14:39 rhcp: not really, havent been following :S Aug 31 01:14:47 webtop moves to chromeos, small devices with hdmi out Aug 31 01:15:04 ? Aug 31 01:15:12 farchord: https://twitter.com/#!/rhcp011235/status/108706484392706048 Aug 31 01:15:27 kernel fu Aug 31 01:15:28 lul Aug 31 01:15:47 Ooooooo.... Aug 31 01:15:48 the10thdentist: we aren't developing hardware Aug 31 01:15:49 Hello! Aug 31 01:16:00 lol you know what I mean Aug 31 01:16:11 rhcp: does that kernel has touchscreen support? Aug 31 01:16:18 so qdl is unlocked? Aug 31 01:16:18 ok hardware abstraction and up, is that closer? Aug 31 01:16:19 rhcp, if you need help testing dont hesitate to ask Aug 31 01:16:20 trsohmers here? Aug 31 01:16:24 th10thdentist better just stick to knowing the 80% of your PMS you dont use! Aug 31 01:16:31 lol Aug 31 01:16:33 nope, ok Aug 31 01:16:36 adios Aug 31 01:16:55 yea np Aug 31 01:17:01 we will need a few tests at some point Aug 31 01:17:05 that arent scared Aug 31 01:17:08 and know wtf they are doing Aug 31 01:17:16 I'm here Aug 31 01:17:20 For that shit Aug 31 01:17:20 k Aug 31 01:17:27 TOuchscreen support? Aug 31 01:17:30 no Aug 31 01:17:32 not yet Aug 31 01:17:38 i need to get it on mine now. and debug time Aug 31 01:17:38 Gotcha. Thanks :D Aug 31 01:17:39 to get it going Aug 31 01:18:02 they are having to re-do the driveer since its not open sourced yet AFAIK Aug 31 01:18:14 you have the colour problem as well? Aug 31 01:18:22 rhcp, RT'd Aug 31 01:18:26 thanks Aug 31 01:18:33 zondajag: as you can see no color problems Aug 31 01:18:36 full aosp Aug 31 01:18:51 yellow background? diff wallpaper? Aug 31 01:18:53 why is the background that color lol Aug 31 01:18:56 and the android is purple Aug 31 01:19:02 cyan* Aug 31 01:19:04 just a slight hint of orange Aug 31 01:19:27 rhcp so all thats left is touch screen in order to have a basic working android port? Aug 31 01:19:48 no wifi either Aug 31 01:19:52 it is working in the sense of booting Aug 31 01:19:53 with wifi comes bluetooth Aug 31 01:19:55 time to work more Aug 31 01:20:04 yeh is that meant to be cyan? Aug 31 01:20:11 not sure. Aug 31 01:20:16 enough info for now :) Aug 31 01:20:33 looks like the colour profile is off Aug 31 01:20:43 still nice progress guys! Aug 31 01:20:47 rhcp. Thanks for the update. back to lurking. Aug 31 01:20:50 i had that issue on my desire at some point, white balance was wrong and everything was the wrong tone Aug 31 01:20:55 need research on the wifi bluetooth bits? Aug 31 01:21:00 root@FrankiesHPTouchPad:/home# tar -xvf /media/internal/AndroidSystem.tar -C /de Aug 31 01:21:00 v/store/android-system/ Aug 31 01:21:00 tar: /dev/store/android-system: Cannot chdir: Not a directory Aug 31 01:21:00 tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now Aug 31 01:21:00 root@FrankiesHPTouchPad:/home# mkdir /dev/store/android-system/ Aug 31 01:21:02 mkdir: can't create directory '/dev/store/android-system/': File exists Aug 31 01:21:08 WHAT sense does this make lol Aug 31 01:21:11 its meant to be a mix between aosp and cyanogenmod so i can see why it would appear that way Aug 31 01:21:15 guy that did voodoo mods kicked ass on some the color stuff Aug 31 01:21:33 there are cyan elements from cyanogenmod Aug 31 01:21:35 that sfunny framework Aug 31 01:21:51 voodoo mods, you mean supercurio? Aug 31 01:21:51 lol Aug 31 01:21:52 Someone should update the touchdroid wiki with that status Aug 31 01:22:25 anyone link to the Twitter jpg I am on tp and just want to see it Aug 31 01:22:45 http://img18.mediafire.com/18a9d97d9c47ef962fed68b64e2227604e3ed64c9b7946ba266dc3657ef0b4805g.jpg Aug 31 01:22:46 http://i.imgur.com/k1uFU.jpg Aug 31 01:22:52 ty Aug 31 01:23:40 wow awesome I goto eat dinner and this happens .... Aug 31 01:24:14 rhcp: what's working on the tp besides touchscreen Aug 31 01:24:25 I should eat more often Aug 31 01:24:40 doesnt look like Touch/Power management/wifi/bt are working yet Aug 31 01:25:38 Wilki & To1776: Nice! :) Aug 31 01:26:07 u dont need any of those things xek lol Aug 31 01:26:36 who needs to touch their touchpad :p Aug 31 01:27:26 i havent gogten it to mine yet Aug 31 01:27:39 you guys wanted a update. you got one. Aug 31 01:27:41 simmer down :) Aug 31 01:28:00 (rhcp): if u need testers later on, id be glad to help out Aug 31 01:28:06 np Aug 31 01:28:07 been gone a few days guys... hows it all going? Aug 31 01:28:10 we will setup a test chan Aug 31 01:28:15 um some people are saying that as that pic doesnt show the actual device in the light it could be any old chinese generic tablet lol Aug 31 01:28:17 rhcp, lol give them an inch, they want a foot XD Aug 31 01:28:31 I'm in for the test chan, I really want to try this image out Aug 31 01:28:36 This may help for drivers for the wifi http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/kvalo/ath6kl-cleanup.git;a=tree;f=drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath6kl;h=4d45e7f5ed73c2ee77f4a468ff3f153ff7d4c042;hb=512527ad22cabd1e6fdd8956bcdc3bb3a5a34c3e Aug 31 01:28:36 i can see why Aug 31 01:28:41 SimsDelt: https://twitter.com/#!/rhcp011235/status/108706484392706048 Aug 31 01:28:44 thats whats up Aug 31 01:28:44 maybe another shot? Aug 31 01:28:52 this channel makes me sad Aug 31 01:28:53 im in for watching people trying it out Aug 31 01:30:35 bootloader stuff needs sorting first right Aug 31 01:30:47 then touchscreen Aug 31 01:30:55 then wireless etc Aug 31 01:31:04 why does it say "error downloading file" in red when I try to download the pic Aug 31 01:31:20 second folks Aug 31 01:31:22 I need to copy/paste Aug 31 01:31:36 thanks Aug 31 01:31:41 the scroll keeps going :) Aug 31 01:31:45 lol Aug 31 01:32:22 good job guys... I finally downloaded the pic Aug 31 01:32:43 any idea where to start on the touch drivers? Aug 31 01:32:43 lolwut Aug 31 01:32:58 zondajag: I have a few ideas Aug 31 01:33:01 the touch problems remind me ALOT when the eris needed a special kernel Aug 31 01:33:08 for the touchscreen to work on AOSP Aug 31 01:33:11 =p Aug 31 01:33:18 did you do that via nobody's uploader Aug 31 01:33:36 jonpry*** Aug 31 01:33:43 not nobody Aug 31 01:33:49 werent the drivers for the 2.2.1 version touchpad in the kernal? Aug 31 01:34:08 or did i read something wrong? Aug 31 01:34:16 Cypress Semiconductor CY8CTMA395 touchscreen controller Aug 31 01:34:18 did the stuff I found last night help with the touchscreen at all? Aug 31 01:34:19 blech i hated aosp on the eris....my battery died faster than on sense lol Aug 31 01:34:37 last night? Aug 31 01:34:43 this thing have logs? Aug 31 01:34:49 yeah. Aug 31 01:35:55 http://www.cypress.com/?rID=44238 also looks promising, ttsp driver for android from cypress. Aug 31 01:36:31 we need conap! Aug 31 01:36:58 rhcp:do you get a working adb shell? Aug 31 01:36:59 lolno Aug 31 01:41:49 hmmm Aug 31 01:42:17 you have to sign up to see that Aug 31 01:42:33 ' Aug 31 01:42:36 i hope multitouch is ok to impliment Aug 31 01:43:17 http://www.mediafire.com/?s2q8t5pc8quu3fl Aug 31 01:43:21 yea theyre going to implement 20 key multitouch for 2 sets of people could have their hands on the device...cool huh lol Aug 31 01:43:25 no signing up to anything Aug 31 01:43:55 the files in there Aug 31 01:45:09 just to be sure just get it from the site Aug 31 01:45:35 but the stuff thats in that file Aug 31 01:45:42 look at all useful? Aug 31 01:50:24 hmpfh Aug 31 01:54:44 <[[valek]]> hows it goin guys Aug 31 01:54:51 looked throught these android cypress touchscreen drivers Aug 31 01:54:55 http://www.mediafire.com/?s2q8t5pc8quu3fl Aug 31 01:55:00 seem legit Aug 31 01:55:35 says its a 'generic' driver Aug 31 01:55:41 well in the file it does Aug 31 01:55:54 lots in there Aug 31 01:55:59 two files Aug 31 01:56:21 Hmm Aug 31 01:56:43 i take it that they are busy trying to get android on rchp one Aug 31 01:57:10 yea most likely Aug 31 01:57:25 Greetings Aug 31 01:57:30 hi Aug 31 01:57:38 What's up? Aug 31 01:57:40 this really u Aug 31 01:57:45 I saw the tweeted picture Aug 31 01:57:49 Is that what we are gonna call the test unit now? Aug 31 01:57:54 RHCP One? Aug 31 01:57:55 What do you mean is it really me? Aug 31 01:58:01 Really creative lol Aug 31 01:58:06 what do you make of this driver Aug 31 01:58:07 http://www.mediafire.com/?s2q8t5pc8quu3fl Aug 31 01:58:54 touchscreen cypress drivers Aug 31 01:59:04 from their website Aug 31 01:59:09 So what's the deal with the picture rhcp tweeted? Aug 31 01:59:14 maybe you can find newer ones on there Aug 31 01:59:25 um they got it going Aug 31 01:59:28 the driver is made for the TMA340 and and TMG240 chips Aug 31 01:59:46 ooops my bad Aug 31 01:59:47 or class thereof Aug 31 01:59:58 let me look again Aug 31 02:00:05 trsohmers: what do you mean whats the deal? Aug 31 02:00:08 its booting android Aug 31 02:00:09 What picture did RHCP tweet Aug 31 02:00:09 duh Aug 31 02:00:17 lol Aug 31 02:00:22 do a google for TMA340 - you'll find the Nook Color :) Aug 31 02:00:25 just wanted to know what you guys did Aug 31 02:00:32 magic Aug 31 02:00:35 haha Aug 31 02:00:48 No. Only Apple products are magical and revolutionary /s Aug 31 02:00:54 Link to tweet plz Aug 31 02:00:56 <[[valek]]> god i sooooo cant wait till android is available for my touchpad Aug 31 02:01:08 then what? Aug 31 02:01:17 still valek? Aug 31 02:01:33 then the custom roms begin =P Aug 31 02:01:46 <[[valek]]> yeah Aug 31 02:01:53 touchscreen is working on android ? Aug 31 02:01:57 <[[valek]]> i check every day when i get home from work to see if its available yet lol Aug 31 02:02:10 kn_: no Aug 31 02:02:42 @RHCP - link to picture Aug 31 02:02:47 [[valek]]: you're a bit optomistic Aug 31 02:02:50 http://www.mediafire.com/?ag23gjy23ovsxvd Aug 31 02:02:50 i just don't see a 100% stable rom in less than at best 3 weeks Aug 31 02:02:54 ETA: When HL2: Episode 3 comes out Aug 31 02:03:02 ire: really? Aug 31 02:03:06 Bah, why isn't the #touchpad channel open any more/ Aug 31 02:03:10 DarkRedFlame: So you mean never... Aug 31 02:03:11 WTF? Mediafire for an image? Aug 31 02:03:12 ire: 2 months is my guestimate Aug 31 02:03:36 trsohmers: Give it hope, DNF eventually came out Aug 31 02:03:40 tp channel is open Aug 31 02:03:53 I've given up all hope, DarkRedFlame Aug 31 02:03:57 tron101: Greetings, Program Aug 31 02:04:23 sup,i fight for the user,lol Aug 31 02:04:39 trsohmers: Same, I gave up all hope when I realized out how valve time works Aug 31 02:04:39 roast_ that's at the earliest when i think something may be worth flashing outside of nightlies Aug 31 02:05:12 DarkRedFlame: Valve even breaks the special theory of relativity Aug 31 02:05:24 hahahaha Aug 31 02:05:42 BatNode: I use it to count my downloads Aug 31 02:05:43 :) Aug 31 02:05:47 if you must know Aug 31 02:05:58 ire: i'm hunkering down on webos for the next few months, are you hoping for a dual boot solution? Aug 31 02:06:10 roast_: whatever happens, happens Aug 31 02:06:23 DarkRedFlame: of course Aug 31 02:06:29 <[[valek]]> i have little to no use for my touchpad with the way it is now Aug 31 02:06:30 Cowboy Bebop ftw Aug 31 02:06:41 <[[valek]]> i use it a few times a day to watch youtube videos while sitting on my couch Aug 31 02:06:43 rhcp: can't you use imgur and wrap it with a bit.ly to track Aug 31 02:06:47 Are we hoping for a dual boot? Yes. Will it happen? Not so much. Aug 31 02:06:50 <[[valek]]> soon as i can put android on it that will totally change lol Aug 31 02:06:52 yep same, and with hp saying they will continue support for webos with updates i'm corssing my fingers Aug 31 02:06:53 Astray: it's on netflix =D too bad my son isn't old enough to watch it Aug 31 02:06:57 its got wIRE lol Aug 31 02:07:08 IRC Aug 31 02:07:12 rpierce99: I can Aug 31 02:07:15 DarkRedFlame: yes Aug 31 02:07:26 Are what you guys working on seperate from Cyaogen Mod? Aug 31 02:07:32 Astray: Yes Aug 31 02:07:43 Hence no cm7 talk in the header Aug 31 02:07:52 Didn't see it, my bad lol Aug 31 02:08:01 It's good Aug 31 02:08:31 I'm falling in love with pandora, I think it perfected my Pearl Jam station Aug 31 02:09:51 touchpad drivers going to be a lot of work Aug 31 02:10:14 i dont envy the person who has to figure that one out Aug 31 02:10:44 there isnt another android device out there with at board in it Aug 31 02:10:48 I thought they were already made because of the system dumb? Aug 31 02:10:55 dump Aug 31 02:11:12 system dump was limited Aug 31 02:11:21 was used more as a reference Aug 31 02:11:28 a dev needs to get ahold of that thing Aug 31 02:11:38 zondajag: system dump had touchscreen support :) Aug 31 02:11:45 wait Aug 31 02:11:59 so u can just port the driver over? Aug 31 02:12:08 it cant be that easy right Aug 31 02:12:09 Not so easy Aug 31 02:12:26 surely the webos kernel has support for it? Aug 31 02:12:37 While we are at it lets put the touchpad wifi driver in the gigaframe to make it to work Aug 31 02:12:44 doesn't the flyer have a dual snapdragon Aug 31 02:13:03 I thought the diff was the tp has an andreno 220 to its 203 Aug 31 02:13:06 Same CPU =/= Same Drivers Aug 31 02:13:07 205* Aug 31 02:13:29 test Aug 31 02:13:59 anyone know why I cant seem to connect to #touchpad Aug 31 02:14:07 same cpu != same drivers Aug 31 02:14:10 I am Aug 31 02:14:11 you are in touchpad Aug 31 02:14:22 touchdroid Aug 31 02:14:28 ? isn't this touchdroid Aug 31 02:14:54 so is the driver somewhere in the dump? Aug 31 02:15:05 is it just a matter of looking for it Aug 31 02:15:08 brushing it off Aug 31 02:15:14 and implementing it? Aug 31 02:15:46 seems too simple that way Aug 31 02:16:54 touchpad decided to make it auth'ed members only >_> Aug 31 02:17:01 don't feel like getting other to freenode Aug 31 02:18:12 hi Aug 31 02:18:26 something about +r is stopping ppl from joining #touchpad,there fixing it now Aug 31 02:18:27 did I miss something big Aug 31 02:19:01 i joined touchpad fine Aug 31 02:19:22 weird. I had to reset my router and now I cant join Aug 31 02:19:23 oh well Aug 31 02:19:36 rhcp, you around? Aug 31 02:19:50 yea Aug 31 02:19:52 busy but here Aug 31 02:20:02 hoho Aug 31 02:20:57 hh Aug 31 02:21:53 woot my roommate just snagged a touchpad too Aug 31 02:22:03 any good lan games Aug 31 02:22:08 Tanked Aug 31 02:22:11 and Tanked Aug 31 02:22:13 My order from HP.ca is still in Admin status >_< Aug 31 02:22:14 and Tanked Aug 31 02:22:22 Did I mention Tanked? Aug 31 02:22:29 lol Aug 31 02:22:39 tanked is cool is that it Aug 31 02:23:14 Yeah Aug 31 02:23:21 As far as I am concerned Aug 31 02:23:52 hmm any games worth sideloading Aug 31 02:25:06 Man I can't wait for Assassin's Creed Revelations Aug 31 02:26:24 gun bros would work awesome Aug 31 02:26:59 dfgas? Aug 31 02:27:02 oopw Aug 31 02:34:57 admin status == cancled last i know Aug 31 02:34:59 id call Aug 31 02:35:03 so you know whats up Aug 31 02:35:14 huh? Aug 31 02:35:21 what? Aug 31 02:35:41 [10:18pm] My order from HP.ca is still in Admin status >_< Aug 31 02:35:48 that normally means canceld Aug 31 02:35:50 o Aug 31 02:35:50 call them Aug 31 02:36:08 my 12 orders were in admin->confirmed Aug 31 02:36:14 im suppoedly only getting 2 of the 12 Aug 31 02:36:49 >< Aug 31 02:37:20 they have to make more to fill backorders on an eol product? Aug 31 02:38:10 no idea Aug 31 02:38:20 i dont work there Aug 31 02:38:21 :) Aug 31 02:39:18 at least you're getting some and not none Aug 31 02:39:28 i got 2 already Aug 31 02:39:35 2 more coming as they say Aug 31 02:39:42 blame the idiots buying 30-40 and reselling Aug 31 02:39:53 fuuuu Aug 31 02:40:04 don't know anybody like that Aug 31 02:40:10 would like to have 1 Aug 31 02:40:14 just 1 Aug 31 02:40:33 i tried to buy 2, one for me one for my sis Aug 31 02:40:52 but nooooo all you jackholes had to order 10 to whore everybody else >.< Aug 31 02:42:33 well Aug 31 02:42:39 all i can tell you is that i went out at 7am to get mine Aug 31 02:42:51 where from Aug 31 02:42:58 first come first serve :P Aug 31 02:43:01 9am 24hr wallmart Aug 31 02:43:04 nhat: : walmart, they had 7 of themn Aug 31 02:43:17 just walked in and grabbed one lol Aug 31 02:43:20 i went out early too. but every store was sold out before they opened. all the employees snatched them up Aug 31 02:43:37 fnj00: : pretty much Aug 31 02:43:38 lol Aug 31 02:43:40 rhcp Aug 31 02:43:46 plenty HP people here Aug 31 02:43:59 yep, the electronic guy said he just changed the price no more than 2 minutes ago Aug 31 02:44:17 they had 1 16gb and 8 32gb Aug 31 02:44:33 i'm going to walmart tomorrow Aug 31 02:44:44 your not the only one messaging her Aug 31 02:45:21 she's being overwhelmed...she's the social face of everything Aug 31 02:45:29 what do you mean? Aug 31 02:45:33 plenty of HP people here Aug 31 02:45:36 im sure some are Aug 31 02:45:56 ima own their order server soon. with their idiot call centers Aug 31 02:45:58 pissing me off Aug 31 02:46:04 lol Aug 31 02:46:06 A) they dont even know what touchpads are Aug 31 02:46:06 gee thanks Aug 31 02:46:10 I train those people Aug 31 02:46:17 they are fucking morons Aug 31 02:46:18 X 1000 Aug 31 02:46:22 normal + SMB Aug 31 02:46:29 one hint. Aug 31 02:46:32 hire fucking americans Aug 31 02:46:34 lol Aug 31 02:46:36 stay away from philipinos Aug 31 02:46:40 lol Aug 31 02:46:42 i had to fucking explain in tagalog Aug 31 02:46:48 at least they're not indians Aug 31 02:46:50 loooooooool Aug 31 02:46:54 i wish they were indians Aug 31 02:46:54 welp Aug 31 02:46:55 smarter Aug 31 02:47:03 different department Aug 31 02:47:05 and have comon sense Aug 31 02:47:07 but you can't understand them :/ Aug 31 02:47:19 Anyone got a 17inch mbp? Aug 31 02:47:37 ever get a american in the sales department? Aug 31 02:47:37 phillipino who thinks they're getting touchpads in a retail store? Aug 31 02:47:57 i got mine in a retail store Aug 31 02:48:00 last week Aug 31 02:48:17 i mean now Aug 31 02:48:25 tonight Aug 31 02:48:33 i'd like to know if walmart has some Aug 31 02:48:43 but i wouldn't count on it Aug 31 02:48:59 i have saw accessories in my area @ staples Aug 31 02:49:06 the only thing walmart has now is accessories Aug 31 02:49:10 and they're at full price Aug 31 02:49:14 inventory checker, not with my eyes Aug 31 02:49:14 walmart has accessories? Aug 31 02:49:15 •Crix-• http://isthetouchpadinstock.com Aug 31 02:49:19 I havent seen crap Aug 31 02:49:25 Walmart doesnt have shit Aug 31 02:49:56 your best bet is catching hp.com when they restock Aug 31 02:50:14 Slickdeals tp thread says Staples had some available through the kiosk today Aug 31 02:50:19 i don't need one Aug 31 02:50:29 so where is everyone sharing code? Aug 31 02:51:41 staples is selling at full price though lol Aug 31 02:51:46 Does any one have any more information on the internal 3g question that was on here earlier Aug 31 02:51:54 yeah i gave up on finding accessories at a retail store Aug 31 02:52:09 so i ordered today from costcentral which is now oos Aug 31 02:52:15 Brobbins87: it's not there, not on the wif Aug 31 02:52:21 wifi Aug 31 02:52:24 costcentral had more? Aug 31 02:52:26 today? Aug 31 02:52:31 they had ~700 of each in stock Aug 31 02:52:34 case and touchstone Aug 31 02:52:36 wireless rev A supposedly has a port for a sim card brobbins87 Aug 31 02:52:43 oh sad Aug 31 02:52:55 you might get those quickly Aug 31 02:53:07 anyone heard anything about cm7 status Aug 31 02:53:37 i have 2x32gb on one order that hasn't changed since i ordered them Aug 31 02:53:42 •billybob_• read the topic Aug 31 02:53:43 billybob_ wrong channel Aug 31 02:53:46 no u Aug 31 02:53:56 but i did get a 64gb and it came to (all from costcentral) Aug 31 02:53:59 rhcp +o plox Aug 31 02:54:09 me too plz Aug 31 02:54:17 today, that is Aug 31 02:54:22 No such user: plox Aug 31 02:54:34 lol Aug 31 02:54:34 ok, there was speculation that the hardware was there just disabled, or the sim slot wasn't connected to the board, so I just wanted to make sure Aug 31 02:54:36 Crix- when did you order? Aug 31 02:54:39 I want a 64g. Aug 31 02:54:46 um Aug 31 02:54:47 * billybob_ sets mode: -o farchord Aug 31 02:55:07 tuesday after fire sale? Aug 31 02:55:12 i think Aug 31 02:55:13 idc which it is i just want one lol...i just had to be late on this idea of buying it lol... Aug 31 02:55:13 lol rhcp Aug 31 02:55:27 I Still have one pending cost central 2 in hand an one came from best buy one week ago tomorrow Aug 31 02:55:35 k now i feel better lol Aug 31 02:55:38 i shouldve gone to best buy when i saw they had a few left the other day ugh Aug 31 02:55:46 billybob = troll Aug 31 02:56:18 i went to 2 different best buys on this past Saturday, lines wrapped around the building Aug 31 02:56:34 whats new guys? any progress? Aug 31 02:56:36 trolling before knew what a troll was Aug 31 02:56:47 lol wtf lines Aug 31 02:57:08 Brobbins87> i would also like to know weather it has the capability to use 3g Aug 31 02:57:13 we maybe have 2-3 customers a day ask for touchpads Aug 31 02:57:16 team my gr waited for 4 hours at bb to get one Aug 31 02:57:19 hell Aug 31 02:57:32 we have probably 10 customers a day that speak english well enough for me to be able to use complete sentences Aug 31 02:58:03 no 3g capability everyone was mistaken its not a sim slot Aug 31 02:58:24 what is the slot then? Aug 31 02:58:35 its for your serial number Aug 31 02:58:50 it just shows s/n and other part info Aug 31 02:58:56 xust-home where you work? Aug 31 02:58:57 the one inside fnj00 Aug 31 02:58:58 doesn't even come 9ut **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Aug 31 02:59:57 2011