**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Sep 04 02:59:57 2011 Sep 04 03:00:04 home buttons how do they work? Sep 04 03:00:44 You sure... because when I move my finger back and forth it seems like its doing something.. probably wishfull thinking on my part Sep 04 03:02:38 well. its got a light. lol Sep 04 03:10:50 Nothing from Jonpry in 2 days :/ his work was looking promising Sep 04 03:11:14 his touchpad is still bricked afaik. Sep 04 03:11:38 got new one Sep 04 03:11:51 oh. still trying to fix the bricked one? Sep 04 03:11:54 but am leaving for the caribbean tomorrow. 2 days travel Sep 04 03:12:08 not so much. i have some idead i might try time permitting Sep 04 03:13:47 ahh, have fun! Sep 04 03:14:11 anyone built your kernel with the newish stuff? Sep 04 03:14:40 also, thoughts on similarities between the 300 and 395? Sep 04 03:18:02 the what? Sep 04 03:20:25 http://www.cypress.com/?id=1938&rID=51366 has a comparison between all the TrueTouch controllers mattseg Sep 04 03:20:36 I know. Sep 04 03:20:41 But driver wise Sep 04 03:20:53 the 300 is 4 point, the 395 is 10 Sep 04 03:29:08 sup Sep 04 03:30:13 rchp has started reverse engineering the webOS drivers so far he thinks that single touch should be working but hasn't tried it out yet Sep 04 03:31:21 he's trying to fix his main button at the moment Sep 04 03:32:52 but he's having trouble opening the thing Sep 04 03:33:14 ya, thats a bit of a setback Sep 04 03:33:27 using would sim cards I think Sep 04 03:33:27 wish he lived closer, id let him borrow mine :p Sep 04 03:34:09 um well I don't think it's the button required to power on so I don't see the problem Sep 04 03:34:28 I guess it's a matter of priorites Sep 04 03:34:57 his priority is fixing hardware Sep 04 03:35:07 a bit worrying Sep 04 03:35:28 he needs to get it into bootie inorder to boot android, right? Sep 04 03:35:29 the buttons gone already Sep 04 03:35:38 which he'd need the button for Sep 04 03:35:58 the volume button broke? Sep 04 03:37:17 not sure which button Sep 04 03:38:19 rchp can you clarify which button it is? Sep 04 03:38:30 I think he said home button Sep 04 03:38:38 [08:51.25] <@rhcp[linux]> fixing my home button Sep 04 03:41:00 so that is not needed to enter bootie, but they need the source for the touchscreen before they can do much more so I don't think its fair to question his priorities Sep 04 03:45:01 damned touchpad won't find my incredible 2 Sep 04 03:45:30 I'm not questioning tem I'm standing by thrm Sep 04 03:45:48 them** Sep 04 03:45:55 x2 Sep 04 03:46:18 I would hate if my home button kicked it Sep 04 03:46:40 it feels like a POS Sep 04 03:47:05 yeah, specially on a new toy. wtf build quality Sep 04 03:47:10 sperman-pc there's a project in the precentral forum to get webos to see other devices besides pre's and veers and shit Sep 04 03:47:22 I Sep 04 03:47:27 I'll take a look, ty Sep 04 03:47:28 mattseg, im looking at a froyo GB kconfig, says that TMA300 is for 10 and TMG200 is for 2 - referencing a shared driver Sep 04 03:47:48 hmmmm Sep 04 03:47:49 my nexus ones visible Sep 04 03:47:51 it didn't have any progress, i think there may be a bounty! Sep 04 03:47:54 it sees my laptop w/ a generic (.99c :D) bluetooth adapter Sep 04 03:47:56 as well as my imac Sep 04 03:48:02 but not my inc 2 Sep 04 03:48:10 shit.. yeah, you're right disco Sep 04 03:48:12 it also sees my logitech mx5000 keyboard Sep 04 03:48:35 i have 5 cypress touchscreen drivers open atm, and they are all quite different... Sep 04 03:48:36 blame htc Sep 04 03:48:44 zondajag: I plan to Sep 04 03:48:46 doesn't see my droid Sep 04 03:48:51 i can't blame HTC Sep 04 03:49:00 lol Sep 04 03:49:19 win 7 fails w/ the driver install for bluetooth Sep 04 03:49:23 Bluetooth or wifi? Sep 04 03:49:23 disco, this is why I was wondering: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12555313&postcount=169 Sep 04 03:49:31 doesn't see my galaxy s either Sep 04 03:49:39 hands free device lolol Sep 04 03:49:42 are you talking about pairing a phone for calls or just in general pairing for the hell of it. Sep 04 03:49:51 t4nk168: either Sep 04 03:49:53 w/ my phone Sep 04 03:50:05 ok wait I thought you meant WiFi. nvm Sep 04 03:50:09 oh, the project is to get phones working for calls. Sep 04 03:50:22 do you happen to have a link? Sep 04 03:50:27 the only hope for using any of those other drivers is to extract the cy8c firmware from one of the android pads Sep 04 03:51:33 any one else watching the phantom menace on spike? Sep 04 03:51:42 try the firmware from a nook color - it runs a TMA340 Sep 04 03:51:48 Archie 80 g9 and Archie 101 g9 released. anyone know what hardware is in them? they are also 1.5ghz Sep 04 03:51:48 http://forums.precentral.net/hp-touchpad-apps/294500-app-request-bounty-pair-non-webos-phones-touchpad.html Sep 04 03:52:08 dethlselin, you flash your cy8c firmware Sep 04 03:52:24 with firmware from wrong chip Sep 04 03:52:28 personally, i can't wait for a SIP client Sep 04 03:52:29 http://forums.precentral.net/hp-touchpad-apps/295593-wanted-sip-voip-client-hp-touchpad.html Sep 04 03:52:42 x10 mini uses the correct chip. i still doubt it would work Sep 04 03:52:53 t4nk168: ty man Sep 04 03:53:06 there is a tma300 driver that has a bunch of useful comments in it Sep 04 03:53:09 from cypress Sep 04 03:53:15 you can't use those Sep 04 03:53:25 none of those drivers will do anything without new firmware Sep 04 03:53:42 t4nk168: sip w/ google voice Sep 04 03:53:57 and its tma395 or bust. no 3xx, 360, 340, whatever Sep 04 03:54:36 i see Sep 04 03:54:53 we have tried them all Sep 04 03:55:06 does anyone know how the TP decides what devices to and not to connect/find? Sep 04 03:55:09 chip does not respond to any commands listed in any of the drivers Sep 04 03:55:28 i pulled a tma395 driver off of codeaurora, did a dev write that one Sep 04 03:55:28 mac address? Sep 04 03:55:49 disco, the x10 mini? tma395_ser? Sep 04 03:56:17 i don't see _ser anywhere in it Sep 04 03:56:27 any idea on honeycomb source release date? I heard its before sammich Sep 04 03:56:32 where is this? Sep 04 03:56:54 gimme a sec to check Sep 04 03:57:13 what's different about this driver from the other cypress drivers is it has no mention to i2c, which i assume it probably needs? Sep 04 03:57:45 our tma395 driver doesn't have i2c exactly Sep 04 03:58:09 and mb, it wasnt codeaurora https://gitorious.org/msm-tp/msm-tp/trees/master/drivers/input/touchscreen Sep 04 03:58:11 although the driver appears to be an i2c bitbanger Sep 04 03:58:27 thats my tree Sep 04 03:58:40 so yeah that one works fine Sep 04 03:58:47 in its own way Sep 04 03:59:55 sorry to waste your time with dumb ideas lol Sep 04 04:00:30 im trying to use this project as an incentive to learn some dev Sep 04 04:00:53 its ok. you had me going for a minute Sep 04 04:01:59 what do you mean it works in its own way Sep 04 04:10:50 yeah! Sep 04 04:12:46 buddy! Sep 04 04:13:33 lol Sep 04 04:19:04 disco, that drivers not exactly broken. like webos uses it Sep 04 04:20:51 hi Sep 04 04:21:37 are you puck? Sep 04 04:22:27 what the puck !? Sep 04 04:22:45 is it for me? Sep 04 04:36:56 will the manufacturer of the touchscreen help us out? Sep 04 04:39:51 thats *highly* doubtful Sep 04 04:43:50 is touch to share NFC? Sep 04 04:45:35 sperm man, what ? Sep 04 04:45:36 I retain that my idea of simply asking them is the best option Sep 04 04:45:56 BatNode they were asked via twitter Sep 04 04:46:59 how does the TP activate touch to share? Is it an NFC connection? Sep 04 04:47:15 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_field_communication Sep 04 04:47:36 TP doesnt support NFC Sep 04 04:48:08 i believe its done via bluetooth Sep 04 04:48:46 hmmm Sep 04 04:49:28 it is bluetooth Sep 04 04:52:51 https://www.deviantart.com/download/256504583/evil_wallpaper_by_deligaris-d48ps7b.jpg Sep 04 05:02:51 can anyone access http://android.git.kernel.org/repo ? Sep 04 05:03:09 if not, can someone provide it to me pretty please Sep 04 05:06:49 rothnic its down for me too Sep 04 05:07:04 thanks, that is strange Sep 04 05:24:21 http://downloads.khinsider.com/?u=658105 Sep 04 05:25:58 whoops, wrong chat Sep 04 05:27:22 thanks for whoever clicked it though, i couldn't download the lode runner TLR soundtrack; lol Sep 04 05:30:01 i couldn't help it Sep 04 05:32:59 well if it weren't for you, i wouldn't be rocking out to awesome music right about now. Sep 04 05:33:42 lol Sep 04 05:39:32 * BatNode doesn't know what this site is but it has the Harvest Moon Soundtrack. Sep 04 05:39:43 Which is the n64 version Sep 04 05:40:25 lode runner awful Sep 04 05:40:54 anything on a console was horrible imo Sep 04 05:41:27 i'm pretty sure it was lode runner 64, i was so freakin excited to play it. Sep 04 05:41:37 i might have played for 3 minutes. Sep 04 06:03:47 fnj00-work, you think you can install some spam shit on that wordpress? Sep 04 06:04:07 its nailing my ass with spam stuff :) Sep 04 06:04:15 rhcp: priv Sep 04 06:16:44 open up your eyes, see a lifetime flowing Sep 04 06:17:40 ? Sep 04 06:19:16 Open up your heart Let the lovin' start open up and let the light back in. Sep 04 06:20:15 I was thinking of you and me makin' love beneath the tree and now I wonder could it be. Sep 04 06:20:48 Thinkin' 'bout the times we had some were good and some were bad guitar fightin' the T.V. Sep 04 06:21:13 gay Sep 04 06:21:14 rhcp[linux], i need power up Sep 04 06:21:53 so single touch wrking eh? Sep 04 06:21:55 Lookin' at you just the other night Dancin' in the evening light True love conquers all. Sep 04 06:22:05 jonpry, power up? Sep 04 06:22:24 cocaine, its a hell of a drug.. Sep 04 06:23:01 rhcp[linux], see pm Sep 04 06:24:54 Oh, to live on Sugar Mountain With the barkers and the colored balloons, Sep 04 06:25:32 ty Sep 04 06:25:34 lol Sep 04 06:25:35 lul Sep 04 06:25:41 what was he smoking? Sep 04 06:25:51 SOmething good Sep 04 06:25:57 yeah Sep 04 06:26:42 wow its not like I asked for stats.. damn its 1:30 am you guys need a brake.. Sep 04 06:27:05 Oroku are you high? Sep 04 06:27:06 that really depends on your timezone Sep 04 06:27:07 damn justin whatcha smokin Sep 04 06:27:14 I just got 6 hours of sleep and Im too old to be high Sep 04 06:27:24 * BatNode wants some of that good shit Sep 04 06:27:29 and you guys arent neil young fans =) Sep 04 06:27:49 apparently Sep 04 06:27:57 i knew there was a too young to be high, but not too old. Sep 04 06:28:13 you only get the really good drugs when you get old Sep 04 06:28:15 Id offer u some smoke, if my probation officer hadnt made me quit so long ago Sep 04 06:28:33 i never started back up Sep 04 06:29:13 ive been messing with qemu emulator for too long Sep 04 06:29:17 my mouse wont work in ubuntu Sep 04 06:29:24 Probation? Ouch homie Sep 04 06:29:51 qemu is pretty neat it can emulate an i386 if your on an arm, or vice versa Sep 04 06:30:18 trying to compile qemu in arm, but my droid runs out of ram with its 256mb limit, Sep 04 06:30:59 so I made a virtual machine that has an arm processor running ubuntu, emulated on my home pc to get past the memory Sep 04 06:31:12 but the mouse wont work, and neither will the network card, so thats what I am doing Sep 04 06:31:14 <|Jason8|> lol Sep 04 06:31:34 but I figure then I can compile qemu, in arm, without cross compiling Sep 04 06:32:15 then I can get 10.4 OSX to run on my phone.. or some shit.. Windows 95 runs pretty fast.. lol Sep 04 06:38:02 just enable swap Sep 04 06:38:19 I thought about that Sep 04 06:38:26 using mount -o loop Sep 04 06:38:29 ? Sep 04 06:38:37 <|Jason8|> :wtc: Sep 04 06:38:39 Or use an actual partition on my sdcard Sep 04 06:38:42 ? Sep 04 06:38:54 you can swapon to a file. no loop necessary Sep 04 06:39:00 cool Sep 04 06:39:06 thanks! =) Sep 04 06:39:30 compiling on my phone was working just fine until then **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Sep 04 07:05:54 2011 Sep 04 07:46:11 what's up? Sep 04 08:11:08 heard via Twitter single touch working. hidd client? Sep 04 08:14:51 How did they do it? Sep 04 08:18:19 l33t skills Sep 04 08:19:26 whos twitter? Sep 04 08:20:51 http://twitter.com/#!/dalingrin/status/110222085858672640 Sep 04 08:22:14 well at 1:30 jonpry told me to enable swap Sep 04 08:22:19 so I dont know Sep 04 08:22:27 he seemed ticked off Sep 04 08:22:36 hmm Sep 04 08:28:48 so no multitouch yet? Sep 04 08:28:57 if I read the twitter correctly Sep 04 08:33:28 really Sep 04 08:33:33 that tweet was crystal clear man Sep 04 08:34:12 they can prolly tweak alot faster now with touchscreen Sep 04 08:36:38 they could prolly tweak 'a lot' faster if they released what they were doing, instead of trying to get the bounty Sep 04 08:37:49 yeah bob, that's true Sep 04 08:38:03 there's not anyone doing it for free. they all want a piddly $2000 Sep 04 08:38:29 uhh cyanogen mod has been around a while Sep 04 08:38:41 they ported it to many devices for no $$ Sep 04 08:38:46 so you have it wrong Sep 04 08:38:51 yeah i dont think they will be doing it for cash Sep 04 08:38:57 never said they would be Sep 04 08:39:07 rhcp also confirmed single touch working few hrs ago Sep 04 08:39:11 And as it stands its in an entirely unusable state Sep 04 08:39:22 so i'm not totally surprised no demo releases yet Sep 04 08:41:48 for a $2000 bounty for the group they would probably be working at $2 per hour by the end of this, then probzbly Sep 04 08:42:08 I don't think it matters that the amount is piddly. it's natural to want to win. anyway that money partly represents the goodwill of hopeful enthusiasts and who wouldn't want to earn that? Sep 04 08:42:14 *probably contknue working for notn Sep 04 08:42:25 *nothing Sep 04 08:43:07 wow, tp keyboard is hard to use on xs :( Sep 04 08:43:07 Necrosan[c] didn't know you had a Touchpad too. :) Sep 04 08:43:21 EdLin: Oh hey, dude! Yep. Got one for my GF & me :) Sep 04 08:43:35 Necrosan[c] you got two, or you share one? :) Sep 04 08:43:42 Two! 32gbs :) Sep 04 08:43:46 nice. Sep 04 08:44:07 i honestly really like webos, its just the app catalog isn't too thrilling Sep 04 08:44:12 Mine is 16gb, figured who needs storage when you can stream everything? Sep 04 08:44:16 yeah Sep 04 08:44:18 exactly Sep 04 08:44:26 after you dualboot android Sep 04 08:44:28 the 16s were sold out by the time i found out Sep 04 08:44:29 you'll have 10GB left Sep 04 08:44:41 so i said screw it, 32's it is! Sep 04 08:44:43 need for speed HD is 500MB Sep 04 08:44:50 Chesskid1 I could live with that, already have a 4GB Ubuntu partition. Sep 04 08:44:56 is need for speed an ygood? i just bought asphalt 6 Sep 04 08:44:58 its pretty bad ass Sep 04 08:45:04 anyway, did jonpry/verygreen write a hidd client? Sep 04 08:45:06 im on the fence between nfs/aftermath xhd Sep 04 08:45:15 i guess Sep 04 08:45:23 im playing the gameloft games/clones Sep 04 08:45:33 nova, dungeon hunter, modern combat, they are pretty fun Sep 04 08:45:38 id recommand them Sep 04 08:47:40 you try asphalt 6 yet? Sep 04 08:48:03 im hungry Sep 04 08:48:09 yay! Sep 04 08:48:21 they got touch working... everything else should be a piece of cake Sep 04 08:48:38 proof ? Sep 04 08:48:53 if you say so oroku Sep 04 08:48:58 =) Sep 04 08:49:04 I do Sep 04 08:49:57 serious question, does the android robot have a name? Sep 04 08:50:03 android Sep 04 08:50:05 that's it Sep 04 08:50:15 "the android android" Sep 04 08:50:20 is how i've always heard it referred to Sep 04 08:51:55 android boots really fucking fast Sep 04 08:51:56 Andy Sep 04 08:51:59 pretty sure that touch isn't fully working Sep 04 08:52:00 the name is andy Sep 04 08:52:02 no multitouch yet Sep 04 08:52:16 the twitter post said single touch Sep 04 08:52:26 yes, we know Sep 04 08:52:50 getting it working in the first place was the hard part Sep 04 08:53:07 wonder how responsive and buggy the touch will be though? Sep 04 08:53:26 from what i understand its reversed and not working right really Sep 04 08:53:35 but it's a very good starting point Sep 04 08:53:41 to at least have it replying to events Sep 04 08:53:53 yeah by the sounds of it that its a long ways off still Sep 04 08:53:55 better than nothing :p Sep 04 08:54:41 well until its flashed on my tablet, it might as well be nothing Sep 04 08:56:03 meh i looked through the APPs store and it didn't have that much stuff Sep 04 08:56:08 so i dont mind waiting too much Sep 04 08:59:49 gameloft has actually put a good 20+ games on webos Sep 04 09:01:31 Where can we get them for free Sep 04 09:02:49 BatNode wait for a webOS sixpack to include them. ;-) Sep 04 09:03:34 or, stop expecting to rip off developers and get them to support webOS too, if you were talking about something else. :) Sep 04 09:04:25 doesn't gameloft rip off other game franchises :) Sep 04 09:04:44 yeah, but if you want their games in the app catalog, don't rip them off. ;-) Sep 04 09:05:17 WebOS support is dead. It should be open season IMO Sep 04 09:05:39 BatNode the touchpad is the second most popular tablet now after the iPad.... Sep 04 09:05:43 lol an update was just released yesterday Sep 04 09:05:47 webos hardware is dead Sep 04 09:05:58 If you spent 2 months working on an app Sep 04 09:06:04 would you want "open season" Sep 04 09:06:12 where people would warez anything and everything? Sep 04 09:06:20 Chesskid1 yesterday? Is it safe to upgrade with uberkernel and some popular patches? Sep 04 09:06:21 if you app is good, it will sell itself Sep 04 09:06:27 your* Sep 04 09:06:35 i think adobe reader and quickoffice updated yesterday Sep 04 09:06:38 bobd some people like to steal good apps too. Sep 04 09:06:40 well it did for me Sep 04 09:06:41 it's tantamount to saying "oh look, there's a shop with broken windows, let me go see if there's anything in there, it's OK, it's all 'open season'" Sep 04 09:06:45 oh, you mean apps. Sep 04 09:06:53 you will still get shot for looting, and rightly so Sep 04 09:06:54 already upgraded those earlier. Sep 04 09:06:54 and pivot update to september issue as well Sep 04 09:07:17 dont pay attention to batnode Sep 04 09:07:22 k, I'll have to check it out. Sep 04 09:07:50 just like, if your tablet is good, you wont have to sell it at 80% off Sep 04 09:08:08 bahahah so true bobd :) Sep 04 09:08:13 bobd it is good, for $99, for $500, who were they kidding?! Sep 04 09:08:16 it is good -- hardware wise :) Sep 04 09:08:52 if only it had an apple logo Sep 04 09:09:06 lol Sep 04 09:09:10 it is at least worth $250, maybe $300 if you push it. The market can't accept something the same price as an iPad though with one hundredth the app selection. Sep 04 09:09:11 * Pulser is glad it doesn't have one Sep 04 09:09:22 * bobd loves his macbook Sep 04 09:09:23 well we'll have android soon Sep 04 09:09:31 and amazon will release their android tablet and sell millions Sep 04 09:09:46 so android marketshare could go way up soon Sep 04 09:09:51 which is great for everyone Sep 04 09:09:56 as long as they market it as a kindle and not an ipad killer Sep 04 09:09:59 Chesskid1 android doesn't particularly have a good tablet-app selection really, honeycomb apps are hard to come by too. ICS though might prove to be acceptable. Sep 04 09:10:33 bobd probably it'll be marketed as a Nook Color killer, and rightfully so probably. Sep 04 09:10:40 LOL Sep 04 09:10:45 EdLin: IT'S OPEN SEASON! Sep 04 09:10:51 ;) Sep 04 09:10:56 Necrosan[c] /me shoots his Touchpad Sep 04 09:11:09 did you grab yours during the sale Sep 04 09:11:10 ? Sep 04 09:11:30 yeah, I did though have a Palm Pre before, which I bought at full price from Sprint. ;-) Sep 04 09:11:43 nice. i always liked webos Sep 04 09:11:43 well, full subsidized price. Sep 04 09:11:54 i'm buying the SGS2 full subsidized next friday ;) Sep 04 09:12:13 has anyone upgrade ur smartphone through amazon wireless ? Sep 04 09:12:15 waiting for the prime Sep 04 09:12:19 if it came in GSM in the US with 3g on tmobile, I would have gotten a Pre Plus or something quite readily. Sep 04 09:12:26 Necrosan[c] nice, SGS2 is great. Sep 04 09:12:37 yeah... i'm content with cdma stuff so i can stick w/ virgin mobile Sep 04 09:12:40 if only i was more into twitter and facebook and that crap Sep 04 09:12:44 i would get way more use out of the tablet Sep 04 09:12:44 they've been rock solid for me for 2+ years now Sep 04 09:12:56 wish i could have tried a top of the line webos phone Sep 04 09:12:59 Necrosan[c] Simple Mobile isn't too bad prepaid-wise for GSM phones. Sep 04 09:13:06 what's data plans look like? Sep 04 09:13:14 er, what do data plans look like? =P Sep 04 09:13:24 $50 for EDGE, $60 for 3g, with unlimited everything else. Sep 04 09:13:31 unlimited 3g too? Sep 04 09:13:34 oh, the 3g is "4g" if you count HSPA+ Sep 04 09:13:42 oh that is bad ass dude Sep 04 09:13:46 unlimited in the same sense as everyone but sprint. Sep 04 09:13:56 a few GBs, then you get throttled. Sep 04 09:14:25 but Virgin Mobile is also limited in that way. Sep 04 09:14:30 not yet Sep 04 09:14:34 come october they are Sep 04 09:14:35 5GB Sep 04 09:14:41 not too bad really. Sep 04 09:14:50 they throttle down to 256kbps too Sep 04 09:14:51 I have 5GB, grandfathered on T-Mobile. Sep 04 09:14:58 nice, tmobile is 64kbps throttle Sep 04 09:15:06 (unusable after 5gb essentially =P) Sep 04 09:15:38 it really should be 300kbs, since it's EDGE, but they aggressively traffic-shape the EDGE after you get throttled. Sep 04 09:16:07 yeah, a guy from another irc channel tried to start a lawsuit Sep 04 09:16:16 I heard. Sep 04 09:16:16 because it was so bad.. he measured 64kbps after the shaping Sep 04 09:16:30 yeah, he was telling me about it. Sep 04 09:16:45 so simple mobile is a tmobile subsidiary Sep 04 09:16:55 I never have gotten throttled, really the only way you'll go over 5GB is by tethering. Sep 04 09:17:12 their affordable plans are capped at 2GB now tho Sep 04 09:17:29 Simple Mobile uses T-Mobile's network, they're an MVNO. Sep 04 09:17:34 god damn 1700 mhz band Sep 04 09:17:54 yeah, 1700 up, 2100 down, and no 3g for you with just one of them. Sep 04 09:18:33 att said all the providers are getting away from unlimited internet, whats funny, is i keep seeing ads for unlimited internet Sep 04 09:18:37 i seriously down that shit Sep 04 09:18:49 doubt* Sep 04 09:18:50 so if you want to rock an iPhone 3g on Simple Mobile, try the EDGE plan anyway. Sep 04 09:19:18 h2theizzo T-Mobile calls theirs unlimited because they don't put it at 0kbps after 2GB, instead they give you 64kbps. Sep 04 09:19:31 h2theizzo Verizon is also limited to 2GB. Sep 04 09:19:41 really Sep 04 09:19:43 or is it 5? Sep 04 09:19:48 i have verizon and att Sep 04 09:19:56 verizons unlimited plan Sep 04 09:20:05 never heard anything and ive tethered off theres for a while Sep 04 09:20:07 verizon is capped, but if you got it when they were still really unlimited, it is unlimited. Sep 04 09:20:12 yeah Sep 04 09:20:14 i got it 2 years ago Sep 04 09:20:18 heh EdLin Sep 04 09:20:20 "Your Simple Mobile Data service is at risk of being suspended due to violation of terms and conditions." Sep 04 09:20:21 ok, that explains it. Sep 04 09:20:32 they do DPI it seems and will end you if you tether Sep 04 09:20:33 Necrosan[c] where did you get that? Sep 04 09:20:35 virgin doesnt do that yet Sep 04 09:20:46 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=909359&page=2 Sep 04 09:20:49 4th or 5th post down Sep 04 09:20:53 not sure how they would tell if im tethering or not Sep 04 09:20:56 phones rooted Sep 04 09:20:56 :D Sep 04 09:21:08 deep packet inspection, h2theizzo Sep 04 09:21:15 they all have the ability to tell very easily Sep 04 09:21:28 THose sick fucks are invading your privacy Sep 04 09:22:46 BatNode now you're starting to make sense. ;-) Sep 04 09:23:34 Necrosan[c] what I heard is they just take a look at TTL, spoof that right and you won't be detected. Sep 04 09:24:32 that and web browser agent strings, which also can be spoofed. Sep 04 09:26:11 yeah the strings are what they are going off of is what my bud said Sep 04 09:26:22 easily spoofed as you said Sep 04 09:27:28 of course, do a lot of tethering and you'll hit your cap, spoof or no spoof. Sep 04 09:27:45 yeah... i am yet to hit a cap/throttling on virgin Sep 04 09:27:48 goign to hate october :) Sep 04 09:29:10 Necrosan[c] I wonder if WebOS's browser is one that they think is a non-smartphone? Sep 04 09:29:29 i wonder the same... there's no replacement browser either Sep 04 09:29:34 or an easy way to hack the user agent Sep 04 09:29:45 the agent string can be patched. Sep 04 09:30:06 I've seen a patch that makes a Palm Pre look like an iPhone that way. Sep 04 09:30:16 nice Sep 04 09:30:20 good to know Sep 04 09:30:21 I don't know if it works on 3.0.x though. Sep 04 09:33:44 Necrosan[c] http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:WuGWe02K5SgJ:forums.precentral.net/webos-patches/200656-iphone-user-agent-spoof-how-make-all-mobile-websites-display-perfectly-38.html+user+agent+string+patch+webos+touchpad&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us Sep 04 09:33:58 it works, but it's different in 3.0.x than the popular smartphone patch. Sep 04 09:34:05 yeah Sep 04 09:34:09 you know the hack to make hulu work? Sep 04 09:34:10 or no Sep 04 09:34:12 (forum isn't loading, so I needed google cache) Sep 04 09:34:25 Necrosan[c] yeah, you patch flash. Sep 04 09:34:34 it's in Preware I think. Sep 04 09:34:52 or you can do it with sed in novaterm or your favorite webos terminal. Sep 04 09:35:44 if you get flash to report it as having the "WIN" operating system, hulu is fooled. Sep 04 09:37:02 hulu has some cajones for blocking the touchpad, when they don't have a touchpad app at least to have an excuse for doing so. Sep 04 09:39:47 * BatNode is watching Teen Mom Sep 04 09:41:19 * EdLin is watching Your Mom Sep 04 09:45:27 its in webosquickinstall Sep 04 09:46:04 Necrosan[c] most of preware is in that too. Sep 04 09:46:23 I think they use the same repos. Sep 04 09:47:09 er what repo Sep 04 09:47:12 its not showing for me Sep 04 09:47:16 repositories. Sep 04 09:47:54 WebOS-internals Sep 04 09:47:59 is the repo. Sep 04 09:48:11 but you can do the same thing with sed from a terminal. Sep 04 09:48:22 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Hulu_Fix Sep 04 09:50:21 Necrosan[c] you got it working now? Sep 04 09:50:50 badass didnt know i could get a prompt Sep 04 09:50:52 thx for link Sep 04 09:51:35 Necrosan[c] sure, the only difference between dev mode (turn onable with a password) and a regular touchpad is terminal services, webos, even on phones, is always rooted. :) Sep 04 09:52:27 nice Sep 04 09:52:32 lovin ths device Sep 04 09:52:43 any repercussions from modifying the flash library? Sep 04 09:52:52 it is, and the underpinnings are more linux-like than Android. glibc, gstreamer, etc. Sep 04 09:53:13 Necrosan[c] none that I know of, other than websites thinking its a PC. Sep 04 09:53:23 in their flash video Sep 04 09:54:24 Necrosan[c] you can always mod it back if there is a problem because a website is delivering touchpad-optimized flash content. ;-) Sep 04 09:54:50 which, you must admit, isn't bloody likely. Sep 04 09:55:43 hehe Sep 04 09:55:46 yeah, true Sep 04 09:57:18 Necrosan[c] chpwn (of iPhone jailbreak fame) says that Touchpads are the closest thing out there to an open-source tablet, as Honeycomb isn't open source, and WebOS is very modifiable and very Linux-like in the open source components. Sep 04 09:57:56 yeah Sep 04 09:58:24 did you do the download manager unthrottle? Sep 04 09:58:30 yes Sep 04 09:58:32 (i did.. and the private browsing enable) Sep 04 09:58:49 I haven't done the privates browsing one yet. ;-) Sep 04 09:59:07 hehe, useful feature :D Sep 04 09:59:38 watching "1000 ways to die" hahaha, thanks for the info EdLin Sep 04 09:59:48 np. :) Sep 04 10:00:57 you have a hulu plus acct? Sep 04 10:04:23 no Sep 04 10:05:28 i see, EdLin Sep 04 10:05:50 thought of getting it, for my xbox. :) Sep 04 10:07:00 yeah, im wondering what movie content is like Sep 04 10:10:44 I'm busy installing ssh keys on my touchpad so I can access its sweet Linux prompt without hooking it up to my computer when its on my network. :) Sep 04 10:13:27 haha nice Sep 04 10:13:33 any other neat mods you ca nthink of that id like Sep 04 10:20:14 I missed the party Sep 04 10:20:15 dalingrin Erik Hardesty Single touch is working in Android on the Touchpad! You have Jonpry and Verygreen to thank for it. Sep 04 10:32:23 Necrosan[c] I assume you've disabled non-error logging, and maybe overclocked a bit too. :) Sep 04 10:32:41 didnt overclock, didnt see a reason to Sep 04 10:32:44 but yes got rid of the logging : Sep 04 10:33:46 I overclock mine to 1.5GHz, the same speed the processor is rated for, and the same speed as the "white Touchpad" upgrade they were planning with otherwise identical hardware. ;-) Sep 04 10:34:53 I use Uberkernel, and Govnah to overclock, using OnDemand instead of the OndemandTCL (or whatever) that's the default. Sep 04 10:35:51 I see. Sep 04 10:36:07 I dunno, if i notice it being sluggish I may do that Sep 04 10:36:17 for now it fits the bill Sep 04 10:36:34 I don't know about noticed being sluggish, but I noticed it being speedy after that and a few good patches. :) Sep 04 10:37:04 what else do you know Sep 04 10:37:09 that about it with the patches Sep 04 10:38:14 I run about half a dozen or so patches, like turning off the touch ripple, increasing the card blinking speed (forget what its called, let me check the websiite I used to first do it with.) Sep 04 10:38:56 why oh why would you disable the touch ripple? Sep 04 10:39:16 Im not tweaking a thing until I get android on it Sep 04 10:39:21 not even software updates Sep 04 10:39:41 you're missing out then, Oroku_Saki Sep 04 10:39:43 webos is a beast Sep 04 10:39:44 Oroku_Saki not even to 3.0.2? You're crazy. Sep 04 10:39:48 why not doing software updates? Sep 04 10:39:54 HP doesn't lock it down or anything Sep 04 10:39:56 Oroku_Saki must be doing harder drugs than me Sep 04 10:40:03 this isn't Android, software updates don't make root go byebye. Sep 04 10:41:26 night EdLin and company Sep 04 10:41:29 night Sep 04 10:41:36 or, rather, from where I am, morning. Sep 04 10:43:02 Oroku_Saki no experimental kernel, OK, no overclocking, gotcha, no patches, maybe... No 3.0.2? Maybe you want to wait till you dual-boot Android before you enjoy your tablet, the rest of us don't. ;-) Sep 04 10:47:42 speaking of which, I'm going to check and see about those adobe reader and quickoffice updates I heard about, and pwn Oroku_Saki's unpatched Internet Explorer 6 on his Windows computer since he's opposed to updates. ;-) Sep 04 10:48:21 lol Sep 04 11:54:52 hi, anyone has a bug with browser keeping crashing and restarting (round circle at each restart) under WebOs. I believe it's related to some homebrew but can't find which one Sep 04 11:55:26 bukington I have some weird issue on nfl.com where it keeps reloading the page Sep 04 11:55:34 a loading circle appears Sep 04 11:55:37 and auto-reloads Sep 04 11:56:38 mm same as me, but when it started, I can't browse any website Sep 04 11:56:38 only solution so far is a data/app reset Sep 04 11:58:04 i had a honeycomb related dream last night. i dont think this waiting thing is healthy for me. Sep 04 11:58:42 hmmmm not sure. Its only on one part of nfl.com. what website specifically for you? Sep 04 11:58:45 I'll try it out right fasty Sep 04 12:00:49 ncspecv81, every website Sep 04 12:01:02 http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2011091109/2011/REG1/panthers@cardinals#menu=gameinfo&tab=preview Sep 04 12:01:03 making the touchpad unusable Sep 04 12:01:05 that's the one for me Sep 04 12:01:07 it keeps reloading Sep 04 12:15:07 WOOOOOOHOOOOOO Sep 04 12:15:47 Got your penis unstuck from the window? Sep 04 12:16:09 um no Sep 04 12:16:10 lol Sep 04 12:16:15 you obviously didnt hear the good news Sep 04 12:16:33 The bird is the word? Sep 04 12:16:39 http://twitter.com/#!/dalingrin/status/110222085858672640 Sep 04 12:16:40 Yep Sep 04 12:16:45 :-P Sep 04 12:17:16 yeah, so multitouch is prolly not too far behind Sep 04 12:17:52 I wonder what they did Sep 04 12:17:54 to fix it Sep 04 12:17:54 shit we're late lol Sep 04 12:18:23 Who's dalingrin Sep 04 12:18:25 ? Sep 04 12:18:47 dunno Sep 04 12:18:51 CM7 Sep 04 12:18:53 Guys Sep 04 12:18:53 :x Sep 04 12:18:58 ic Sep 04 12:19:19 farchord it was rhcp and verygreen that got it working the other guy just birded it out and yea bird is def the word Sep 04 12:19:51 Meh Credit shmedit.... As long as it works :) Sep 04 12:20:07 although Sep 04 12:20:14 they could have credited the right people Sep 04 12:20:16 w/e Sep 04 12:20:17 im just sayin that he was repeating what rhcp said here last night Sep 04 12:20:29 Wait so any vids? Sep 04 12:20:30 wait Sep 04 12:20:34 WAIT Sep 04 12:20:36 :-P Sep 04 12:20:37 how did you get your dick unstuck from the window Sep 04 12:20:45 cuz i really want to go to sleep Sep 04 12:20:47 lol Sep 04 12:20:51 and I can't do that standing up Sep 04 12:21:03 Stop fucking windows. Sep 04 12:21:06 Problem solved. Sep 04 12:21:29 HP's webOS business suffered a big black eye back in August as sales of its HP TouchPad tablet were so bad that it decided to discontinue the product and halt any future webOS hardware development. Now a new report from PreCentral.net claims it has received internal memos from HP. These memos reveal the company has decided to split its webOS division in two with the software and hardware sides moving to other divisions of the company. Sep 04 12:21:35 The report claims that the software side of the webOS division will be moved to HP’s Office of Strategy and Technology. HP has already said it wants to continue developing the webOS operating system, and has hinted strongly that it wants to license the OS to third party hardware companies. As far as the hardware side of the webOS division, the report claims it will be moved to HP's Personal Systems Group. That's basically the PC si Sep 04 12:21:35 de of HP's business. As we have reported before, HP has publicly stated it would prefer to spin off that division into its own stand alone company, although a final decision on such a move has yet to be made. Sep 04 12:21:40 its not that i'm fucking windows, its that the nieghbor girl hit puberty and well....nvm Sep 04 12:21:40 Hmmm.... Sep 04 12:22:56 * b00sted|zZzZ is back from Entertaining some Hookers. I was gone for 10hrs 46mins —I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— Sep 04 12:23:30 interesting that b00sted gets back right after we release info about getting yoru dick out of a window Sep 04 12:23:52 dude Sep 04 12:23:53 shush. Sep 04 12:23:56 * b00sted whistles Sep 04 12:32:23 ugh.... dark rainy day.... Sep 04 12:33:51 Um so am I right in thinking that we will see a video of single touch soon. Also did echo fix his home button? Sep 04 12:34:08 Rchp Sep 04 12:40:46 http://team-touchdroid.com/wiki/index.php?title=Current_Progress is down Sep 04 12:41:01 err nm Sep 04 12:42:12 topic :) Sep 04 12:43:47 Oroku_Saki: server getting slammed thx to engadget, in the process of moving to a dedicated box here shortly. Sep 04 12:44:00 ah ok Sep 04 12:44:05 fnj00-work, use cloudflare on it :) Sep 04 12:44:11 that will help ease the load via static file caching Sep 04 12:44:27 yeah thats not the problem Sep 04 12:44:38 pulsur Sep 04 12:44:38 already cache static content Sep 04 12:44:42 Pulser* Sep 04 12:44:50 maybe you should edit the page Sep 04 12:45:56 fnj00-work, well if you need help with that, THAT I can help with :) Sep 04 12:46:48 OK Sep 04 12:47:11 no what I mean RE cloudflare Sep 04 12:47:32 is it acts as a CDN Sep 04 12:47:33 for free Sep 04 12:47:43 so images and shit Sep 04 12:47:50 are all served outwith your server :) Sep 04 12:48:33 so I learned about mirc because I hated piracy Sep 04 12:49:03 http://gizmodo.com/5837045/apple-claims-android-started-with-them Sep 04 12:50:28 screw apple Sep 04 12:50:29 yeah, so? Windows 7 started with me Sep 04 12:50:52 I invented the transistor, all bow before me. Sep 04 13:04:09 Stay classy, Apple http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/04/apple-wins-german-injunction-against-samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-pul/ Sep 04 13:05:14 wow Sep 04 13:05:16 -.- Sep 04 13:05:48 I hate apple Sep 04 13:07:18 Small European restaurant gets Cease and Desist letter for having an Apple-shaped logo and being called 'appleaday': http://hello.news352.lu/edito-116038-an-apple-a-day-is-the-lawsuit-to-stay.html Sep 04 13:07:33 apple is not claiming in the sympathy rating with all the suits and the iphone5 thing Sep 04 13:13:35 doesn't matter, 90% of the customers don't care/know/want that shiny thing Sep 04 13:42:25 yeah the ipad sucks? Sep 04 13:50:04 good news here Sep 04 13:50:10 i got the drivers from cypress Sep 04 13:50:20 Woot Woot! Sep 04 13:50:29 Yeeeeee Haaaaa! Sep 04 13:50:30 woohoo Sep 04 13:50:30 In fact before HP refreshing their webOS image, all HP touchpad TSP controller board were used Android to run the MFG procedure. Attached file is the latest TMA395 Android driver. The significant difference is that the HP touchpad TSP controller firmware has no bootloader support so when you want to bring up the device with this driver a little effort need be cost take care of this difference. This job has been done by HP software Sep 04 13:50:39 thats what they told me Sep 04 13:50:42 uploading the file now Sep 04 13:52:04 https://rapidshare.com/files/4039948189/CY_I2CDRIVER_v11.zip Sep 04 13:52:31 What does it mean in English? Sep 04 13:52:55 multi touch will start to work with that file Sep 04 13:53:05 Well done, dev community Sep 04 13:54:47 WOO Sep 04 13:54:55 nice work guys Sep 04 13:55:02 Time to claim the bounty yet? Sep 04 13:55:19 hmmm Sep 04 13:55:21 let's see Sep 04 13:55:28 ya Sep 04 13:55:35 nice one btw :) Sep 04 13:55:44 see, I did say, talk to the manufacturer ;) Sep 04 13:55:50 :D Sep 04 13:55:53 as far as they are concerned, we are their customers :) Sep 04 13:56:09 tbh, I was gonna get the office to phone them monday if we had nothing Sep 04 13:56:11 :D Sep 04 13:56:14 I hope the Progress Status page gets updated quickly and the news goes on Twitter Sep 04 13:56:24 It's not as exciting if not Sep 04 13:56:26 i just got the mail on sunday o.o Sep 04 13:56:36 OK Sep 04 13:56:39 do you want me to mirror this Sep 04 13:56:40 but you know Sep 04 13:56:42 to save rapidshit? Sep 04 13:56:48 ya sure Sep 04 13:56:52 or do you wish it to stay there? Sep 04 13:56:54 for points etc? Sep 04 13:57:01 The significant difference is that the HP touchpad TSP controller firmware has no bootloader support so when you want to bring up the device with this driver a little effort need be cost take care of this difference. Sep 04 13:57:04 no Sep 04 13:57:19 you can mirror it Sep 04 13:57:26 cypress people work on sunday =_= Sep 04 13:57:30 xD Sep 04 13:57:39 hehehe Sep 04 13:58:01 NOW I REALLY GOTTA GET THIS DEDI FINISHED Sep 04 13:58:55 im making a package with mail + drivers Sep 04 13:58:59 hehe Sep 04 13:59:07 fnj00-work, I have a dedi and gigabit VPS if it helps Sep 04 13:59:14 but it would be best to sort your dedi Sep 04 13:59:15 :) Sep 04 13:59:25 I work at a hosting company, just need to throw it up on the rack lol Sep 04 13:59:50 haha nice Sep 04 14:00:10 but yeah I had a lol the other day Sep 04 14:00:13 was reviewing a VPS for someone Sep 04 14:00:16 then had to tell him Sep 04 14:00:26 "uhm mate, your "image" is hacked" Sep 04 14:00:32 turned out that his "blank" system image for openvz Sep 04 14:00:34 was hacked :P Sep 04 14:00:53 I examined it, and he had a shit root password, and servers from china, russia, and macedonia had been into it Sep 04 14:00:55 then he cloned it :P Sep 04 14:01:02 lol Sep 04 14:01:07 so yes Sep 04 14:01:16 I believe I might be getting a free one for life Sep 04 14:01:20 fnj00-work, lol just finished setting up this morning's batch of dedicated machines myself, a nice Dual Intel Xeon e5620 with 12gb ram.... Sep 04 14:01:22 for letting him know before thye started Sep 04 14:01:28 ooh nice specs Sep 04 14:01:33 and an Intel Quad core <.< Sep 04 14:01:53 sadly this site is going up on a dual p3 for now Sep 04 14:02:01 lol Sep 04 14:02:05 i need to go shopping Sep 04 14:02:09 Geez Sep 04 14:02:13 uhm, dual P3 :( Sep 04 14:02:22 this hardware will handle it just fine for now Sep 04 14:02:23 bet I could have that down in seconds :P Sep 04 14:02:24 in fact... Sep 04 14:02:35 I know a guy who could take it down with his phone on 3G :P Sep 04 14:02:38 definately better than a virtuozzo vps Sep 04 14:02:40 lol Sep 04 14:02:41 ya lol Sep 04 14:03:02 lol you underestimate this power of this box Sep 04 14:03:06 hehe Sep 04 14:03:10 no, you underestimate him Sep 04 14:03:15 I've watched him take down a quad core Sep 04 14:03:17 i7 box Sep 04 14:03:19 lol dual p3 system, for some reason I just had the mental image of you starting it up with a crank, a bit like an old school style lawnmower Sep 04 14:03:21 with his phone :P Sep 04 14:03:30 no joke, it was over 3G Sep 04 14:03:42 I think he now works for elgooG in their security dept Sep 04 14:03:46 for Chrome Sep 04 14:03:50 well there was a recent vulnerability found with apache where a single script could take a server down Sep 04 14:04:43 yeah Sep 04 14:04:45 yesterday evening, I rebooted my PC and noticed that for some stupid reason my BIOS was only set to use 3 out of my 4 cores Sep 04 14:04:52 I just set it to Auto Sep 04 14:04:59 and it took all 4 of em Sep 04 14:05:02 lol Sep 04 14:05:04 nice Sep 04 14:05:09 a free 25% boost Sep 04 14:05:22 More or less. The major bottleneck in my PC atm is the HD Sep 04 14:05:28 I just got an SSD Sep 04 14:05:31 https://rapidshare.com/files/3236482385/CY8CTMA395_Android_Drivers.zip Sep 04 14:05:35 Crucial RealSSD C300 128 GB Sep 04 14:05:36 you should start mirroring that Sep 04 14:05:40 sure Sep 04 14:05:41 thanks Sep 04 14:05:53 Pulser, but they are.... so.... damned.....expensive! Sep 04 14:05:56 well Sep 04 14:05:59 £100 for 128 gig Sep 04 14:06:03 it was in a sale Sep 04 14:06:29 Darkice, could you use megaupload perhaps? Sep 04 14:06:34 I can mirror that miles faster :D Sep 04 14:06:39 I just bought a Corsair 850W PSU a couple weeks ago.... havent installed it yet, waiting to get my new video card Sep 04 14:06:44 then, ill prolly get a new SSD Sep 04 14:06:49 for my windows drive Sep 04 14:06:49 ya Sep 04 14:06:51 w8 Sep 04 14:08:00 nvm Sep 04 14:08:01 got it Sep 04 14:08:26 os[Linux 2.6.38-11-generic x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "natty" 11.04] cpu[4 x AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 800MHz] mem[Physical: 11.8GB, 87.5% free] disk[Total: 2.5TB, 78.5% free] video[ATI Technologies Inc RV770 [Radeon HD 4850]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB1: USB-Audio - USB Device 0x46d:0x8082: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI3: USB-Audio - Razer Megalodon] Sep 04 14:08:48 Do you think it would be worth bumping up the memory in my older MBP from 2 to 4GB? Sep 04 14:09:01 www.villainrom.co.uk/Touchpad/CY8CTMA395_Android_Drivers.zip Sep 04 14:09:04 Wulfegang, prolly Sep 04 14:09:04 http://www.multiupload.com/WNWZZ846PE Sep 04 14:09:05 try that folks :) Sep 04 14:09:06 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4S8OID1K Sep 04 14:09:17 yay it works Sep 04 14:09:18 cheers Sep 04 14:09:22 let me make a page of mirrors Sep 04 14:09:24 Crucial has 2GB for $25 Sep 04 14:09:37 is there a direct link? Sep 04 14:09:41 nvm Sep 04 14:09:42 Chesskid1, yes Sep 04 14:09:44 mine Sep 04 14:09:45 i see it Sep 04 14:09:51 :) Sep 04 14:09:55 right, let's get a look at this then Sep 04 14:10:55 mmm says CPU is running at 800mhz Sep 04 14:11:00 got a feeling thats just speedstep Sep 04 14:11:05 could i post those links on some forums Sep 04 14:11:28 so those are the ACTUAL working drivers? Sep 04 14:11:32 yeah I'm making a link Sep 04 14:11:34 for mirrors Sep 04 14:11:39 yep Sep 04 14:11:46 Single touch tho right? Sep 04 14:11:51 no Sep 04 14:11:55 just got them from cypress Sep 04 14:12:06 email is included Sep 04 14:12:11 oooooo Sep 04 14:12:17 . Attached file is the latest TMA395 Android driver. Sep 04 14:12:25 people are going to have a field day with that one Sep 04 14:12:53 finally got something to work on :p Sep 04 14:13:31 OK I have the link at http://villainrom.co.uk/Touchpad/ Sep 04 14:13:35 so it's easy to find Sep 04 14:14:12 maybe it's worthwhile to take screenshot of email Sep 04 14:14:16 Chesskid1, it's in it Sep 04 14:14:17 obv x out ur info Sep 04 14:14:19 in the html Sep 04 14:14:30 In fact before HP refreshing their webOS image, all HP touchpad TSP controller board were used Android to run the MFG procedure. Attached file is the latest TMA395 Android driver. The significant difference is that the HP touchpad TSP controller firmware has no bootloader support so when you want to bring up the device with this driver a little effort need be cost take care of this difference. This jo Sep 04 14:14:30 b has been done by HP software team before. Sep 04 14:17:17 i think hp is makin themselves a good name unlike apple they actually are trying to help the consumer even though it means killing the very essence of the device Sep 04 14:17:28 :) Sep 04 14:17:30 lol Sep 04 14:17:35 tbh I would not be surprised Sep 04 14:17:39 if HP authorised Cypress to tell them this Sep 04 14:17:40 :) Sep 04 14:17:49 now... to get these building :) Sep 04 14:18:05 heh Sep 04 14:18:09 damn straight Sep 04 14:18:10 social engineering <3 Sep 04 14:18:11 hp>apple Sep 04 14:18:12 multi touch droid ftw Sep 04 14:18:29 a shame hp didn't decide to open source webos Sep 04 14:19:22 blaargh they did enough without that already and webos is prety open even without it being open source Sep 04 14:19:27 I spent quite a bit of time last night with a buddy who has an iPad. we compared tablets. I think he liked the TP. Sep 04 14:20:03 i know, and i quite like it. at least parts of it. but it would have been nice nevertheless Sep 04 14:21:10 i was watching a touchpad app test on youtube Sep 04 14:21:14 they had like 30+ apps going at once Sep 04 14:22:27 from what I gather ,.. do we have touchscreen drivers now ? Sep 04 14:22:40 yup, direct from cypress Sep 04 14:22:45 oh and someone should wakeup rhcp's ass hell be happy at the acomplishment even if he didnt manage to fix his home button yet Sep 04 14:22:51 aDr|aN-: we have *some* touchscreen drivers..I don't believe anyone has actually *tested* them yet. Sep 04 14:23:10 vistazifta88, he knows Sep 04 14:23:11 did he break his button already ? Sep 04 14:23:16 we are working on building, RaYmAn Sep 04 14:23:24 yeah someone pushed his buttons Sep 04 14:23:26 lol Sep 04 14:23:32 lol Sep 04 14:23:32 Pulser: what do u mean ? Sep 04 14:23:39 Pulser: yeah, I know :) I'm not trying to be negative. I'm just saying, we don't actually know if they are going to work yet :) Sep 04 14:23:44 aDr|aN-, they are working on it. Sep 04 14:23:48 RaYmAn, you are correct Sep 04 14:23:57 aDr|aN-, we have drivers from cypress thanks to Darkice Sep 04 14:24:03 we are now looking at them to see if they are any use Sep 04 14:24:08 and RaYmAn is right, we have not tested them yet :P Sep 04 14:24:11 so the manufacturer was all cool and shit and just hand them over ? Sep 04 14:24:16 aye Sep 04 14:24:17 Pulser: the thing that confuses me is the complete lack of any reference to the serial port that the webos drivers use Sep 04 14:24:20 download them :) Sep 04 14:24:24 there's the readme in it Sep 04 14:24:27 http://villainrom.co.uk/Touchpad/ Sep 04 14:24:33 shows you what they said to Darkice Sep 04 14:24:35 how nice. Sep 04 14:24:56 they explained to us Sep 04 14:25:01 that HP was using android to test it Sep 04 14:25:08 then webos went on later on in the process Sep 04 14:26:13 Personnally I have mixed feelings about HP software Sep 04 14:26:21 Seen so many computers clogged with em Sep 04 14:26:32 that explains why we have android devices then and their from hp not qualcom so it makes sense that they even got into the market Sep 04 14:26:33 useless printer software, useless scanner software, blah blah blah Sep 04 14:26:43 well... Sep 04 14:26:57 I don't mind HP Sep 04 14:27:00 as this is cypress stuff =D Sep 04 14:27:01 i bought an HP printer Sep 04 14:27:04 but u r taling mostly windows crapware Sep 04 14:27:06 I am not a major fan of webos Sep 04 14:27:06 didnt even come with cables to hook it up Sep 04 14:27:08 talking Sep 04 14:27:48 high end persons come with USB cable. no other printer on the market does. Sep 04 14:27:55 epsons Sep 04 14:28:10 and yet customers still buy printers Sep 04 14:28:26 if consumers just said "enough of this shit" and stopped buying printers without bundled cables, they'd stop right away Sep 04 14:28:36 but people buy into it and then spend +$30 for their "monster cable" Sep 04 14:28:46 no one knows until they buy it Sep 04 14:28:49 and run to store again Sep 04 14:28:50 7 yrs working at staples. you would be amazed at what people buy Sep 04 14:28:52 to get that usb cable Sep 04 14:28:56 it says on the box what's included Sep 04 14:29:02 it's assumed Sep 04 14:29:07 and any competent sales employee will mention it so they can bundle the cable Sep 04 14:29:20 right Sep 04 14:29:31 its actually the retailers that started it Sep 04 14:29:45 they convinced the manufacturers to leave out the cables so they could sell a higher-margin one with it Sep 04 14:29:47 ReverendKJR, people always go for the cheapest crap. They seem to forget, you get what you pay for.... Sep 04 14:29:54 I prefer to pay more but have something that LASTS Sep 04 14:30:00 farchord: that doesn't apply with the touchpad :P Sep 04 14:30:07 Well, no XD Sep 04 14:30:15 i mean imagine if ps3 came with no video cable Sep 04 14:30:23 would be so much backlash Sep 04 14:30:34 PS3 is inching towards that the way they keep removing stuff from it. Sep 04 14:30:37 the manufacturers claim that not including the cable gives the customer a choice of which one to buy. length, quality,etc. BS Sep 04 14:30:55 they get the "perfect" USB cable and are stuck with the stock power cable.. Sep 04 14:31:37 ReverendKJR, actually, that makes some sense Sep 04 14:31:46 @Pulsar - My god the broken english in the email is terrible Sep 04 14:32:30 ReverendKJR, think about it, nowadays, all printer usb cables are interusable. I mean, you change your printer, you can keep using the same cable Sep 04 14:32:38 Adding a cable in each printer box would just be waste Sep 04 14:33:06 why provide any usb cables then? Sep 04 14:33:10 I have so many USB cables now, I would almost rather NOT get any more of them bundled with my toys Sep 04 14:33:23 or what about the part of the power cord that goes from the wall into the brick? Sep 04 14:33:24 lonequid, thats my point Sep 04 14:33:28 those are pretty much standard Sep 04 14:33:38 oh the printer i got used a weird usb Sep 04 14:33:40 people only speak one language, why include multiple languages in the manual? Sep 04 14:33:41 lonequid, yeah, true Sep 04 14:33:43 not sure if it was properitary Sep 04 14:33:47 but def wasn't a common one Sep 04 14:34:17 why bundle a mouse/keyboard with this computer? people surely have one from their old one Sep 04 14:34:23 I miss centronics. 36 pin yumminess. Sep 04 14:34:50 lonequid, in the end, it's all about cost.... it's less expensive localization-wise to have 1 product with all the languages inside than making many versions of it Sep 04 14:35:03 Pulsar: can i make topic on rootzwiki and link to your website? Sep 04 14:35:16 if you think not including a usb cable with printers is about cost you're really ignorant Sep 04 14:35:32 cable costs them at most $0.50, they could raise the price $1 and PROFIT off of including the cables Sep 04 14:35:39 it's the deals they strike with the retailers Sep 04 14:35:45 bestbuy doesn't make money when they only sell a printer Sep 04 14:35:48 <.< Sep 04 14:35:49 but when they sell a $20 cable with it, they make more money Sep 04 14:35:57 so they've convinced HP, etc to leave the cables out Sep 04 14:36:00 and then it becomes standard Sep 04 14:36:01 the USB cables at the stores are 95% profit for the stores. its all a game. Sep 04 14:36:07 I thought retailers mostly made money off their shitty additional warranty Sep 04 14:36:12 those + accessories Sep 04 14:36:19 ahhh Sep 04 14:36:22 that too. :D Sep 04 14:36:32 but those warranties are just resold Sep 04 14:36:33 are you crazy, do you know the best buy markup on that printer? Sep 04 14:36:33 that reminds me lol Sep 04 14:36:39 not as much markup as a $30 cable Sep 04 14:36:46 true Sep 04 14:36:48 very true Sep 04 14:36:50 when I bought my TP at staples, Sep 04 14:37:01 the printers are never more than 10%. I guarantee it Sep 04 14:37:02 The guy is like, "Do you want an extended warranty on it?" Sep 04 14:37:11 Why would I? They're stopping making em! Sep 04 14:37:12 that $30 cable actually costs $5 Sep 04 14:37:19 right Sep 04 14:37:28 more like$2 Sep 04 14:38:00 the only reason id get a warranty "is because' they stopped making em Sep 04 14:38:02 extended warranty=BS Sep 04 14:38:04 HDMI cables have dropped a ton i've seen at places Sep 04 14:38:12 this one store even gives them out free on black friday Sep 04 14:38:33 so now if it brakes i get a 500-600 tablet cuz they cant get me a touchpad Sep 04 14:38:40 I bought a 16ft hdmi cable for 7 bucks Sep 04 14:38:46 ReverendKJR, if something blows up ill just fedex it back to the mfg Sep 04 14:39:09 exactly farchord. Sep 04 14:39:34 That reminds me what I told my mom when she bought her laptop at Futureshop (In canada, Futureshop is a spinoff company of BestBuy BTW) Sep 04 14:39:57 She said she bought the warranty of the store for 200$ for her laptop Sep 04 14:40:00 But here's the kicker Sep 04 14:40:13 For TWO FUCKING YEARS she had problems with her laptop crashing, hanging, losing sound, and etc Sep 04 14:40:22 She kept sending it back to em Sep 04 14:40:35 She just ended up getting fed up, and lent me it. Sep 04 14:40:40 24 hours. All fixed. No more glitches. Sep 04 14:40:50 Here's your fucking extended warranty. Sep 04 14:40:57 ha ha. win. Sep 04 14:41:15 classic example , farchord Sep 04 14:41:28 they are just a bunch of kids with name tags. no skillz Sep 04 14:41:35 It was a decent laptop for her use.... Intel Core Duo, 4gb ram, with Windows XP Media Center Edition (ugh) Sep 04 14:41:39 I just upgraded it to 7 Sep 04 14:41:44 and she's in high heavens Sep 04 14:41:51 seems like my irc timed out Sep 04 14:41:53 im the free call me if u need anything fixed among my friends lol hardware or software Sep 04 14:42:04 vistazifta88, ditto. Sep 04 14:42:04 Anyone got a clue where to get a Touchpad? Sep 04 14:42:16 church? Sep 04 14:42:28 pray for one at this point. Sep 04 14:42:30 Heck lol when I go fix a computer, I rarely charge anything, I'm just like, "Pay my McDonald's and we're good." Sep 04 14:42:34 =) Sep 04 14:42:45 Aaron's. but they are being dicks about it Sep 04 14:42:51 ditto farchord Sep 04 14:42:53 I can't charge for something that I have so much fun doing lol Sep 04 14:42:59 yea same here just sponser dinner Sep 04 14:42:59 meh, I just find it easy Sep 04 14:43:27 oh and darkice with ur reward money u can afford to buy an ebay one lol Sep 04 14:43:31 I mean the other day I went to go troubleshoot a problem at an old man's house, his computer refused to boot Sep 04 14:43:36 a great place to get cables is monoprice.com Sep 04 14:43:37 i actually like cleaning up computers as weird as that sounds Sep 04 14:43:40 AMD Athlon X2 system, Windows Vista. Sep 04 14:43:51 my sister had a sweet popup that blocked taskbar/control process/everything really Sep 04 14:43:59 asked for CC # to get rid of spyware Sep 04 14:44:02 farchord was it the power cable lol Sep 04 14:44:04 I couldn't find the problem until I took a look behind the tower. The NIC card's activity light wasn't blinking even though everything was plugged in Sep 04 14:44:08 vistazifta88, nope Sep 04 14:44:10 * Pulser has some useful tools for fixing b0rked PCs Sep 04 14:44:14 So, I went in the BIOS, Sep 04 14:44:18 Disabled the on-board nic Sep 04 14:44:22 and POOF, system boots. Sep 04 14:44:29 The onboard nic was fucked Sep 04 14:44:34 did you try turning off and back on again? lol Sep 04 14:44:35 lol Sep 04 14:44:39 I bought him a 20$ nic card, and BAM fixed. Sep 04 14:44:48 i see that alot on cheaper all in one mainboards Sep 04 14:45:00 homer8869, actually, that mobo was an Asus one Sep 04 14:45:03 I was a bit surprised Sep 04 14:45:12 Asus is usually good Sep 04 14:45:21 wow, i've hever had that on my asus boards Sep 04 14:45:25 yeah, but I guess mistakes can always happen Sep 04 14:45:31 g'afnoon Sep 04 14:45:41 usually foxconn or cheap gigabyte boards Sep 04 14:46:09 lol for motherboards, I stick to Asus. Or MAYBE MSI Sep 04 14:46:15 but Asus as much as possible. Sep 04 14:46:25 i used to love msi boards Sep 04 14:46:46 ya im an asus fan here Sep 04 14:46:47 ive had bad luck with msi. i stick to asus too Sep 04 14:48:17 actually im not an asus fan iv had 3 acpi chips go on me on 3 different machines in 6 months Sep 04 14:48:31 yeah as far as the ram goes, I stick to Kingston. I have 12gb of Hyper-X ram atm :) Sep 04 14:48:44 i'm out of the game now. too many people wanting priority over my every day life for free Sep 04 14:49:58 yay site transition to old balls dedi complete Sep 04 14:53:09 yay so now it wont crash every 45 secinds lol Sep 04 14:54:06 it was crashing every 45 seconds becuase i setup a script to restart and clear semaphores with apache every minute to keep the vps from diaf Sep 04 14:58:25 so now someone should update the website to say we got drivers and that their being worked on unless u dont want etas asked every second Sep 04 14:59:26 lol had to shutdown my pc Sep 04 14:59:45 were having an electrical storm here Sep 04 15:00:22 prolly wont last tho Sep 04 15:00:31 wonder if it'll be possible to have an option to reboot into webos from android and vice versa Sep 04 15:03:43 um.. post that and there will be twice the eta questions vistazifta88 Sep 04 15:04:09 hah Sep 04 15:04:12 true as well :P Sep 04 15:04:24 haha i kn ow hence i said unless u dont want eta asked every second lol Sep 04 15:11:51 post what? Sep 04 15:13:48 oh hprep someonw my the name of darkice got the drivers from cypress they emailed them to him Sep 04 15:17:42 farchord u can put that we have drivers in the topic lol Sep 04 15:17:54 Are they confirmed as working? Sep 04 15:17:56 do we actually have drivers though? Sep 04 15:18:01 exactly Sep 04 15:18:32 farchord, they are not confirmed working yet Sep 04 15:18:34 so don't put that up for now Sep 04 15:18:40 Then we wait. Sep 04 15:18:42 it's WIP for now Sep 04 15:18:52 i think their working on confirming them but they came directly from cypress so i cant imagine that theid be bad ones Sep 04 15:19:09 well they are from cypress, but that doesn't mean we will get them working right away Sep 04 15:19:14 there will be a fair bit of work I imageine Sep 04 15:19:16 imagine* Sep 04 15:19:37 anybody here know a lot about sabnzbd and sickbeard? Sep 04 15:20:36 pulser id imagine that too bec the email said they hp still had to work with it to get it to boot with em Sep 04 15:23:53 vistazifta88, with webos, yes.... but those are android drivers Sep 04 15:26:14 aha so ur saying that for android it will work out of the box? Sep 04 15:26:14 cool beans about the drivers Sep 04 15:27:12 if there aren't any android devices shipping with this screen though, i wonder what quality these drivers are Sep 04 15:27:22 maybe not out of the box Sep 04 15:27:24 but.... Sep 04 15:27:38 i imagine they wouldn't have invested too much time/money in the driver until they got a purchase order Sep 04 15:28:14 on other hand, how much different is there between the driver for this particular screen and other screens that are on production devices Sep 04 15:30:07 i don't know anything about their product line though, is the screen on the touchpad something special or is it just a minor upgrade from their other products? Sep 04 15:30:20 s/their/cypress's Sep 04 15:32:07 lol /s Sep 04 15:36:17 Any progress with the new drivers? Sep 04 15:37:54 yo Sep 04 15:38:02 Something better than nothing ;-) Sep 04 15:47:38 everyone stop asking for progress. im going to +m this Sep 04 15:47:47 i just woke up. and this is rediculous Sep 04 15:47:58 Lol Sep 04 15:48:02 dont worry you will all hear. when something is working Sep 04 15:48:09 you guys are making most of us. want to quit Sep 04 15:48:10 fyi Sep 04 15:48:15 keep that in mind Sep 04 15:48:36 ok relax .. ill buy u bfast Sep 04 15:48:41 im eating Sep 04 15:48:43 rhcp[linux], if you just woke up, you probably didnt hear the news Sep 04 15:48:47 i did Sep 04 15:48:48 That's kind of childish, if you ask me. Sep 04 15:48:48 dont worry Sep 04 15:48:51 Oh ok Sep 04 15:48:53 nm then XD Sep 04 15:49:11 klausa, its annoying Sep 04 15:49:20 hmm Sep 04 15:49:24 just don't respond :D Sep 04 15:49:25 we are trying to work. with constant "questions" you will see something when there is something Sep 04 15:49:26 done Sep 04 15:49:30 rhcp[linux]: I understand. Sep 04 15:49:41 klausa, so, you wouldnt say something if, during a car trip, your kids would just repeat incessively "Are we there yet"? Sep 04 15:49:42 But quitting over this is childish. Sep 04 15:49:53 its not. it makes people want to quit Sep 04 15:49:55 including myself Sep 04 15:50:04 farchord: If they were 2yo I wouldn't complain. Sep 04 15:50:05 we as devs dont owe anything to anyone. its just fun Sep 04 15:50:11 now i feel like breakfast ,.. Sep 04 15:50:19 I'm going to go eat breakfast :D Sep 04 15:50:26 constant baggering for info. just is a turn off Sep 04 15:50:35 so dont look at irc? Sep 04 15:50:43 just follow twitter / read Sep 04 15:50:47 but u do enjoy the attention Sep 04 15:50:51 asking does - Sep 04 15:50:53 0 Sep 04 15:50:54 no i dont Sep 04 15:50:56 lol people will always be impatient, just gotta deal with that Sep 04 15:51:08 go eat, away from the computer. you arent required to read everything here Sep 04 15:51:10 if it was done my way . 400 of you wouldnt even know this exists Sep 04 15:51:11 You guys knew what are you were signing for - you knew that there is *enormous* number of people waiting for this. Sep 04 15:51:27 No status.... Period. Sep 04 15:51:29 Don't like it? Sep 04 15:51:38 Here's the door ----> Sep 04 15:51:43 No more discussion on this. Sep 04 15:51:54 Everyone just need to take a deep breath and chill out. Sep 04 15:52:10 bc111, enough about this mate. Sep 04 15:52:20 I've always wondered why you guys announce this stuff... keep it low key Sep 04 15:52:37 geez guys ... relax ,.. Sep 04 15:52:53 Go outside guys. Smell the god damn flowers, go fuck your girlfriends/wives/boyfriends/blow up dolls/pillows lol Sep 04 15:53:10 I mean - when I work on something, I just don't look on irc. Sep 04 15:53:27 Aiite. This is gonna stay on for a while. Sep 04 15:57:04 take ur own advise ,. ur the one pissed being a fukin sissy ... go fuck whoever and relax, if you didnt want the attention why did u anounce the channel and shit ? grow a pair Sep 04 15:57:13 dont like questions ? ignore them Sep 04 15:57:30 *g* Sep 04 15:57:44 poça Sep 04 15:59:58 .. Sep 04 16:01:22 He did it the wrong manner, but raised a valid point. I'm trying to understand - what's so hard with ingoring those annoying questions and just doing your fun project? Sep 04 16:01:45 I really don't want to be rude, really. Sep 04 16:01:46 Could you please drop it? Sep 04 16:01:49 I'm asking nicely. Sep 04 16:01:55 Becuase it's unneeded pression dude Sep 04 16:02:06 Jesus effin christ, people. Sep 04 16:02:51 mmm pancakes Sep 04 16:03:09 But right now you're acting like you're either came to Internet yesterday, or 6ou thought noone will be intrested in this. And I'n having hard time beliving either of those. Sep 04 16:03:12 If you paid for a service, yes you could ask for statuses, as you paid for it and you have stakes. Sep 04 16:03:24 In the meatime - I:m gonna buy some beer. Sep 04 16:03:29 Cya Sep 04 16:03:34 enjoy - courtesy of the cyanogenmod channel: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UJAKRTBL (CY8CTMA395 android drivers) Sep 04 16:03:42 beer at 11am? Sep 04 16:03:52 Logoboy: 6pm. Sep 04 16:03:59 oh, where are you? Sep 04 16:04:05 Poland. Sep 04 16:04:10 ah, time difference. Sep 04 16:04:29 So are all the drivers working now? Sep 04 16:04:39 *shoved w/e Sep 04 16:04:43 zurtz777 - Seriously? Sep 04 16:05:26 yeah Sep 04 16:10:01 why did you kick dethselin? Sep 04 16:10:26 I'm talking to him atm, just was a bit hasty cuz of the CM mention Sep 04 16:11:00 Sorry about that, dethlselin was a bit hasty. Sep 04 16:11:32 funny thing is if im not mistaken it was darices drivers and when that effin channel posted it he decided to be a smart ass and post it as theirs Sep 04 16:11:54 at this point, I'm not sure I care. Sep 04 16:12:10 As long as someone fixes android Sep 04 16:12:42 that's the spirit! Sep 04 16:12:43 congrats jonpry on getting single touch working. You guys should put that on the status page Sep 04 16:13:24 at this point im saying thank that u guys have done this much and that we got this far and that even if u guys had enough because of all the badgering id say i understand u and that u left us with enough matirial to finish on our own Sep 04 16:13:25 Indeed, gj man Sep 04 16:13:41 jonpry ftw Sep 04 16:13:57 All we're asking guys is lay off on the status reports. They do this voluntarily, and do not take any donations, so give em a break, s'all. Sep 04 16:15:58 Ya i had written an email to cypress and got and answer today with the drivers attached. Sep 04 16:16:16 Darkice, Good work. I wrote a few. got nothing :) Sep 04 16:16:26 working to see if they work. what needs to get done atm Sep 04 16:16:34 its not just plug and play Sep 04 16:16:41 figured as much Sep 04 16:16:44 and jonpry got it for CM Sep 04 16:16:45 not us Sep 04 16:16:55 so not going on status page Sep 04 16:17:28 plus with the news. I dont even want to go that route anymore Sep 04 16:17:29 !seen Framework Sep 04 16:17:35 . Attached file is the latest TMA395 Android driver. The significant difference is that the HP touchpad TSP controller firmware has no bootloader support so when you want to bring up the device with this driver a little effort need be cost take care of this difference. Sep 04 16:17:36 @seen Framework Sep 04 16:18:03 no bot? Sep 04 16:18:05 Darkice, Yea, I wish he gave more detail Sep 04 16:18:14 What u need? Sep 04 16:18:21 how to bring it up. proper irq's Sep 04 16:18:23 etc Sep 04 16:18:36 rhcp[linux], fixed your home button yet? Sep 04 16:18:38 want his mail? Sep 04 16:18:46 farchord, yea i ripped it apart. its kinda loose Sep 04 16:18:48 but it works Sep 04 16:18:55 Darkice, msg me it. Sep 04 16:18:55 plz Sep 04 16:18:57 lol ok Sep 04 16:22:57 Oh you are shitting me....Dues Ex keeps crashing at the very end of the game for me and I can't finish it.... Sep 04 16:23:10 wrg chan Sep 04 16:23:15 sorry wrong window Sep 04 16:23:22 was chatting with friend that played it too Sep 04 16:23:36 what awesomeness has jonpry done now? Sep 04 16:23:47 remember me asking if the manufacturer was willing to help? Sep 04 16:23:47 touchscreen Sep 04 16:23:54 =) Sep 04 16:24:13 full support or single touch Sep 04 16:24:17 full Sep 04 16:24:21 if we get it working Sep 04 16:24:24 wow Sep 04 16:24:27 you serious? Sep 04 16:24:29 o.o Sep 04 16:24:29 yes Sep 04 16:24:34 Cypress sent me the drivers today Sep 04 16:24:49 im not sure if it will have hardware accell Sep 04 16:24:57 but touch/multitouch is a go Sep 04 16:25:07 [ 700.708958] qup_i2c qup_i2c.5: Transaction timed out Sep 04 16:25:07 [ 700.708980] qup_i2c qup_i2c.5: I2C Status: 132100 Sep 04 16:25:07 <[ 700.717335] qup_i2c qup_i2c.5: QUP Status: 0 Sep 04 16:25:07 [ 700.721665] qup_i2c qup_i2c.5: OP Flags: 10 Sep 04 16:25:10 Just getting errors Sep 04 16:25:12 trying to see how to fix Sep 04 16:25:25 * Logoboy crosses fingers. Sep 04 16:25:31 :0 Sep 04 16:25:33 woah Sep 04 16:26:41 Not too sure what that mumbo-jumbo means, Sep 04 16:26:44 but it looks cool Sep 04 16:35:04 well it isnt! Sep 04 16:38:59 android driver info pdf from cypress site - http://www.cypress.com/?docID=29019 Sep 04 16:39:06 might be worth a look Sep 04 16:39:32 I'm pretty sure they got what they need mate :) Sep 04 16:40:04 it's only 2 pages Sep 04 16:42:22 thats for old chips Sep 04 16:43:25 ok Sep 04 16:57:57 iirc i2c is part of the kernel Sep 04 16:58:09 that lets you talk to devices that support it Sep 04 17:24:10 Anyone looked at WiFi support yet? Sep 04 17:25:12 Bc111 I wouldn't bother anyone about that yet let em get android running then the installer so no bricks Sep 04 17:25:48 And when they r done we can play with it ourselves and if they fix it they will roll out an update Sep 04 17:26:13 Rgr Sep 04 17:26:16 Right now they have enough headache with ppl asking about touch Sep 04 17:40:20 regarding the touch screen Sep 04 17:40:42 what is prevening us from using the driver from the qualcomm dump? Sep 04 17:40:45 kernel version/ Sep 04 17:40:46 ? Sep 04 17:40:48 Don't ask Sep 04 17:42:51 xiaomao: to the best of my knoledge its as follows Sep 04 17:43:34 the dump was from andoid 2.2 and we want to be able to adapt to every new android available Sep 04 17:44:21 even though cypress sent me the drivers today Sep 04 17:44:38 and the reason we cand use the dump info in 2.3 etc is because we dont have the source code of the driver which we would need to recompile for our 2.3 kernal Sep 04 17:45:07 ah i figured it was a driver version/kernel version mismatch Sep 04 17:45:43 and in general one should refrain from asking those questions here as they dont like it i was just bein the nice one hoping that u wont ask again Sep 04 17:46:10 thanks Sep 04 17:47:52 anytime and if someone wants to ask a question and doesnt want to bother a dev ask someone else like pm me and ill try to answer to the best of my knoledge Sep 04 17:48:13 gtg Sep 04 17:48:56 vz|away, just kidding pal :) Sep 04 17:49:13 yeah figured since the room was quiet, it wouldnt bother anyone to ask Sep 04 17:49:28 man im so sleepy Sep 04 17:49:50 anyway im off too. saw the progress and wondering what prevented them from using the closed source binaries Sep 04 17:49:53 get your ass to sleep man :P Sep 04 17:50:00 its only 10:46am for me, so i'm wide awake Sep 04 17:50:09 damn here, mputtr. Sep 04 17:50:15 i was up until 4am :/ Sep 04 17:50:21 same* Sep 04 17:50:21 ;lol Sep 04 17:50:22 see Sep 04 17:50:24 hahaha Sep 04 17:50:31 4am and on irc.. Sep 04 17:50:33 go to sleep :) Sep 04 17:50:42 the channels will still be here when you wake up Sep 04 17:57:55 I'm liking this single touch on the tablet Sep 04 17:57:57 It Sep 04 17:58:03 It's kinda hard to use Sep 04 17:58:07 But it's progress Sep 04 18:05:42 * mputtr is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 15 minutes Sep 04 18:11:57 * mputtr is no longer away : Gone for 21 minutes 14 seconds Sep 04 18:12:58 darkredflame, where did you get that? Sep 04 18:13:26 CM Sep 04 18:13:27 magic Sep 04 18:14:03 darkredflame, where is the download? Sep 04 18:14:21 A friend was showing me via LIVE Sep 04 18:14:28 Don't have the link Sep 04 18:14:32 oh Sep 04 18:14:39 * rhcp[linux] does Sep 04 18:14:39 :P Sep 04 18:14:45 enjoy - courtesy of the cyanogenmod channel: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=UJAKRTBL (CY8CTMA395 android drivers) Sep 04 18:14:59 From ealier Sep 04 18:15:05 did they compiled it from scratch? Sep 04 18:15:12 bc111, thats not CM Sep 04 18:15:16 and its not single touch Sep 04 18:15:18 WTF Sep 04 18:15:26 yea, thats multi touch Sep 04 18:15:27 :P Sep 04 18:15:29 true touchscreen Sep 04 18:15:30 these drivers Sep 04 18:15:38 oh snap Sep 04 18:15:45 were released by me Sep 04 18:16:01 is it working with the touchdroid build? Sep 04 18:16:08 Darkice, are you CM? Sep 04 18:16:10 liking this 10 dollar case from CVS for the ipad Sep 04 18:16:15 once we get it all merged Sep 04 18:16:21 we shall place it all up on git Sep 04 18:16:28 no Sep 04 18:16:35 jonpry, oper_spy ftw Sep 04 18:16:36 ;) Sep 04 18:16:39 didnt think so Sep 04 18:16:55 lol Sep 04 18:16:56 K sry Sep 04 18:17:05 i am not going to try these multitouch drivers because i think risk of brick is high Sep 04 18:17:16 :O Sep 04 18:17:28 Do it for science! Sep 04 18:17:29 also you have to realize that as is the device cannot be flashed with fw_uploader Sep 04 18:17:39 And if that fails, burn your TP with a butane lighter Sep 04 18:17:39 aw Sep 04 18:17:40 :O Sep 04 18:17:41 that sucks Sep 04 18:17:45 and once you do flash it. we don't have a dump of the current firmware Sep 04 18:18:24 jonpry, between you and cm. bricks are up to like 5 Sep 04 18:18:26 whats one more Sep 04 18:18:27 sure we have Sep 04 18:18:28 :P Sep 04 18:18:30 all of those are interesting problems for somebody else. i already bricked one for science Sep 04 18:18:31 in lib/firmware Sep 04 18:19:01 and how do you know that is what is actually flashed right now? Sep 04 18:19:18 else it's nonsense to ship them with tp ? Sep 04 18:19:19 :) Sep 04 18:19:40 from what i can tell there is no software that actually checks the firmware version or tries to flash it Sep 04 18:20:03 cylsts_fwloaderr ? Sep 04 18:20:04 -r Sep 04 18:20:34 yeah the current firmware can't be flashed using the new drivers Sep 04 18:20:42 or the new tool Sep 04 18:21:07 Flemmard`, this will be what 2 bricks for you? Sep 04 18:21:22 rhcp, then it will be a tie Sep 04 18:23:40 I'll take a flash for science - I have an iPad 2 already anyway Sep 04 18:24:53 If deth dies I will take a flash after him, I have 2 Sep 04 18:25:26 anyway we willsee an unbrick utility =) Sep 04 18:25:56 hi been outof town anyone want to give progress report from privious nights? obvly i wasable to read there was no overall updates ie touchscreen . Sep 04 18:25:58 jonpry thanks for the swapon advice, its still compiling! Sep 04 18:26:07 lol Sep 04 18:26:18 yep but it beats cross compiling Sep 04 18:26:52 Ive had to fix files that the phone just throws as a warning and keeps going Sep 04 18:27:09 fix on i386 side cross compiling Sep 04 18:27:28 400 mb swap file did it Sep 04 18:27:35 running watch free Sep 04 18:28:51 jonpry, I dont think its a tie. because, alot of the bricks on your end. + cm's end. has been due to pure stupiidy :P Sep 04 18:28:57 like flashing bootloaders Sep 04 18:28:58 and shit Sep 04 18:29:02 fucking with bootie Sep 04 18:29:07 I'm not ready to brick lol I'm just starting to like this thing Sep 04 18:29:09 all to see if the latest version of qemu can emulate i386 well enough to boot XP from an arm processor. Sep 04 18:29:18 i wish rootz would buy me shit to brick :P Sep 04 18:29:22 I didn't even know there was a brick that Dr couldn't fix Sep 04 18:29:27 yeah this flashing firmware with the wrong tools and wrong drivers is pure genious Sep 04 18:30:00 jonpry, at least there is src to read. and not flashing random shit to random places Sep 04 18:30:01 wouldn't it fail to load or just load into RAM? Sep 04 18:30:03 like you guys were Sep 04 18:30:14 kernel will crash Sep 04 18:30:30 i mean flashing p6 was pure i dono. sorry :) Sep 04 18:30:37 dont wanna knock ya Sep 04 18:30:54 its clear in the XML not to fuck with that Sep 04 18:30:55 :P Sep 04 18:31:10 is this going to flash /boot? Sep 04 18:31:26 Oroku_Saki, nothing I've seen or worked on goes NEAR boot Sep 04 18:31:41 =) Sep 04 18:32:04 Pulser, well. we had some stuff going on /boot with mine Sep 04 18:32:07 its safe Sep 04 18:32:10 hehe Sep 04 18:32:13 just need to know wtf you are doing Sep 04 18:32:14 the DB stuff? ;) Sep 04 18:32:19 no kernels Sep 04 18:32:19 etc Sep 04 18:32:22 yh Sep 04 18:32:41 * mputtr is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 15 minutes Sep 04 18:33:51 bricked touchpads: the untold story Sep 04 18:34:07 lol is all i need to say Sep 04 18:34:11 to the bricks Sep 04 18:34:12 lolol Sep 04 18:34:20 pure stupid stuff Sep 04 18:34:47 from people im super surprised would even do it Sep 04 18:34:56 was shocked to hear the peeps who bricked Sep 04 18:35:10 and then when i hear the how Sep 04 18:35:16 thats when the LOL comes Sep 04 18:39:53 * farchord yawns. Sep 04 18:39:59 Man I hate stormy days Sep 04 18:40:05 i hate hot days Sep 04 18:40:06 * mputtr is no longer away : Gone for 22 minutes 24 seconds Sep 04 18:40:17 oh idc about hot anymore, got an AC Sep 04 18:40:23 im actually slightly freezing hre Sep 04 18:40:26 yeah, but AC costs money :( Sep 04 18:40:31 as in electricity cost Sep 04 18:40:39 but it worth it Sep 04 18:40:52 <-- college student Sep 04 18:40:56 I dont make money. not yet Sep 04 18:40:58 indeedethy Sep 04 18:42:06 thank god for fans though Sep 04 18:42:28 my AC is better than a fan. Sep 04 18:42:34 DOH Sep 04 18:42:36 lol Sep 04 18:42:52 but it keeps the apartment cooler for less electriciy :P Sep 04 18:42:57 *electricity Sep 04 18:43:13 and thank god for living on the 2nd floor, atleast i get some wind. Sep 04 18:43:48 lol rhcp[linux] Sep 04 18:44:30 Sell some plasma and get a window unit... Sep 04 18:44:31 i need to get on the rootz/xda boat so i can brick shit Sep 04 18:44:42 no joke Sep 04 18:45:16 what like flashing new firmware at 5% bat lol Sep 04 18:45:34 did the on my evo on accident once Sep 04 18:45:57 lol how did that work out? Sep 04 18:46:35 it might have finished fine Sep 04 18:46:37 heh, took a chance a channel for this would be here and paydirt Sep 04 18:46:40 fixed it , I've done everything you can possibly do to the evo so yea I've half bricked it once or twice Sep 04 18:47:26 I ran the 3.0 SDK the day it was release that was...functional lol Sep 04 18:47:30 thx for the laugh blizz Sep 04 18:50:43 I'm pretty happy with the weekly miui Roms now unless something different comes out Sep 04 18:50:54 like the evo 3d Rom was ok Sep 04 18:51:35 that miui has lot of features that should be in android to begin with Sep 04 18:51:57 once androids ported I'd give the flyer Rom a try Sep 04 18:52:11 I agree the firewall is boss Sep 04 18:52:23 i personally love the switch to wifi download option. Sep 04 18:52:31 like a shady game but afraid its sending your info out no promblem Sep 04 18:52:42 and the drop bar Sep 04 18:52:46 better than cancelling and enabling the wifi and restarting the download. Sep 04 18:53:28 I've flashed literally hundreds of Roms and themes I like miui the best Sep 04 18:53:54 plus you can theme miui 100x easier than anything else by farrrr Sep 04 18:54:18 speaking of which how's the touchpad theming customizing work Sep 04 18:54:22 yeah, MIUI is the best "3rd party" (which isnt even a real 3rd party) rom there is Sep 04 18:54:34 I'm big in user end mod Sep 04 18:54:48 miui just got its own phonentoo Sep 04 18:55:21 Cyanogen mod seems nice enough for me. Mui worries me since I hear it's translated from another language and if I try messing with it it would get pretty borked Sep 04 18:55:35 what phone zon Sep 04 18:55:39 Also its closed source Sep 04 18:55:48 cause on the evo its build ontop of cm Sep 04 18:55:48 Nexus one Sep 04 18:56:20 the teams work together alot of us phones are miui ui ontop of a cm base so not to worry Sep 04 18:56:23 I have a Windows Phone 7 phone, flashed with the Windows phone 7 rom made by the group called Microsoft.... can't complain it's running okay Sep 04 18:56:35 Oh OK so its like alternative launcher and stuff? Sep 04 18:56:52 evo and nexus are comparable I'd say you get one of the most stable builds Sep 04 18:57:11 thats how cm got fm it was from miui Sep 04 18:57:30 its just a smoother ui imo Sep 04 18:57:58 I went to the release event for the HTC titan Sep 04 18:58:04 and thousands of themes that are applied with a built in app and ten best backup program imo as well Sep 04 18:58:11 niiiice Sep 04 18:58:30 I wish I could get o the google conferases always giving away free stuff Sep 04 18:58:30 Not a bad phone. Hasn't fully convinced me about wp7 Sep 04 18:58:52 I'm love to see another htc nexus Sep 04 18:59:24 I wish the ngp I mean vita was a phone Sep 04 19:00:05 Brb Sep 04 19:00:19 People won radars and titans and xboxes Sep 04 19:01:01 And there was a dance off at the end for kinects and xboxes Sep 04 19:01:31 Was funny Sep 04 19:02:19 after the last ps3 lawsuit I stoped playing with it and started messing with android....now hopefully with all the new webOS users I'll get lots and mods and hacks for this thing Sep 04 19:02:34 I miss ydl on my ps3 :( Sep 04 19:08:20 hey all Sep 04 19:09:47 other os on the ps3 is doing really well lately Sep 04 19:12:53 I heard they unlocked hyperthreding Sep 04 19:13:24 just too bad there's no android lol Sep 04 19:14:00 the only issue is the ps3 has balls CPU for brute force and great gpu but it has a retaredly small amount of ram Sep 04 19:14:04 its like 256 Sep 04 19:14:21 re Sep 04 19:14:49 sooo great for cracking WPA keys lol but it barley played ps1 emu Sep 04 19:14:54 Flemmard... are you there? Sep 04 19:15:25 but with all the cores going now I might just power it up...haven't done a software update in over a year Sep 04 19:22:21 quite Sep 04 19:33:27 Pulser, you here? Sep 04 19:34:43 yes Framework Sep 04 19:34:45 sup Sep 04 19:34:55 you got those drivers from an hp representative? Sep 04 19:34:58 o.0 Sep 04 19:35:27 well, I personally didn't Sep 04 19:35:43 uhm, Darkice got them from Cypress Sep 04 19:35:46 compile compile compile :-P Sep 04 19:35:49 he just asked, and they send him them Sep 04 19:35:57 lol, don't you think I've tried? :P Sep 04 19:36:25 wait wut? Sep 04 19:36:25 :( Sep 04 19:36:42 maybe trying is not enough ;P Sep 04 19:36:48 lol Sep 04 19:36:48 are the drivers gpl'ed? Sep 04 19:36:56 mauimauer, the drivers are indeed GPL v2 Sep 04 19:37:03 btw, http://techcrunch.com/2011/09/02/amazon-kindle-tablet/ Sep 04 19:37:10 soo...can someone upload them? Sep 04 19:37:20 i'd like to catch up with the recent developments round here Sep 04 19:37:24 mauimauer, yes they are uploaded Sep 04 19:37:25 and posted Sep 04 19:37:26 :) Sep 04 19:37:31 http://villainrom.co.uk/Touchpad/ Sep 04 19:37:33 I put them there Sep 04 19:37:33 Pulser Sep 04 19:37:35 thx ;) Sep 04 19:37:36 does tried mean Sep 04 19:37:43 you didnt get it to work? Sep 04 19:37:44 lol Sep 04 19:37:51 yhm Sep 04 19:37:55 I didn't get it to compile :P Sep 04 19:37:59 but others got it to build Sep 04 19:37:59 One second Sep 04 19:38:02 and didn't get it working Sep 04 19:38:07 lame Sep 04 19:38:07 lol Sep 04 19:38:10 btw...what got that bin issue fixed that flemmard had? Sep 04 19:38:13 but they are still on it btw Sep 04 19:38:44 mauimauer, I'm not sure on the technicalities Sep 04 19:38:49 I am presuming kernel stuff Sep 04 19:38:55 since the system image was unchanged Sep 04 19:39:00 most likely ramdisk Sep 04 19:39:14 mhh...well I have a kernel and put my /system on that ext3fs partiton metadoctor got me ;) Sep 04 19:39:28 but I failed mounting the image from my ramdisk Sep 04 19:39:37 lvm.static just bitched around Sep 04 19:44:00 Hmm Sep 04 19:44:09 What happened in the last hour? Sep 04 19:44:37 can someone provide a tutorial on how the ram disk was made for Android TP? Sep 04 19:44:49 or point me to this info Sep 04 19:45:10 the_palindrome, sorry dude we dont have a tutorial for that Sep 04 19:45:22 ok Sep 04 19:45:23 darkredflame, http://www.cnn.com is the best site for this Sep 04 19:45:39 maybe can you just tell me if you used an existing roms ram disk or built your down Sep 04 19:46:04 I am guessing that it is based from the 2.2 rom Sep 04 19:46:06 but with changes Sep 04 19:46:08 but I don't know tbh Sep 04 19:46:18 imo it's a clean aosp build Sep 04 19:46:19 interesting Sep 04 19:46:40 imo? whats that mean Sep 04 19:46:40 http://eatocracy.cnn.com/2011/09/04/big-bad-burgers/?hpt=hp_t2 Sep 04 19:46:41 but it's been modified since we're dealing with lvm2 here Sep 04 19:46:42 Yumm.... Sep 04 19:47:23 oh interesting so you just used the vanilla aosp ram disk then modified it and added the kernel Sep 04 19:48:19 not quite Sep 04 19:48:34 it's uBoot Multi File Images Sep 04 19:48:44 kernel uImage + ramdisk Sep 04 19:48:55 ^ Sep 04 19:49:13 and then you might make it to /system on a spare ext3fs partition Sep 04 19:49:25 ^ Sep 04 19:49:33 but I didn't swing by the last few days ;) Sep 04 19:49:43 so the last part is speculation on my part Sep 04 19:49:47 good job anyway :) Sep 04 19:49:51 thats exactly how you do it Sep 04 19:49:52 :P Sep 04 19:50:03 I am going to catchup tonight ;) Sep 04 19:50:11 hopefully my ramdisk will work this time ;) Sep 04 19:50:25 Hopefully Sep 04 19:51:18 wonder if I should care build my own device conf (BoardConfig.mk etc.) or just try to get going with generic Sep 04 19:51:54 Up to your preference Sep 04 19:52:04 I would like generic first personally Sep 04 19:52:30 what was used to make that fancy video? Sep 04 19:52:41 I can't remember Sep 04 19:52:44 Ask rhcp[linux] Sep 04 19:53:12 is there anyway to tell if the touchpad is charging while it's powered off Sep 04 19:53:22 the button should flash Sep 04 19:53:24 for AOSP? Sep 04 19:53:29 gernic will not boot Sep 04 19:53:43 aurora MSMXXXXX Sep 04 19:53:44 i forget Sep 04 19:53:53 ahh ;) Sep 04 19:53:59 so it's a qcom repo build Sep 04 19:54:10 I am no superman Sep 04 19:54:12 2.3.5 Sep 04 19:54:14 I have no answers for you Sep 04 19:54:35 Sorry, I got Dave Matthews Band stuck in my head Sep 04 19:54:38 rhcp[linux], aurora 8660_surf will boot Sep 04 19:54:40 rhcp[linux], got my PM? Sep 04 19:54:52 mhhh...don't have the qcom repo with me today...cloning those 20 something gig is no fun :( Sep 04 19:54:55 farchord, yea Sep 04 19:55:03 Pulser, there you go :) that one guys Sep 04 19:55:05 if you want to play Sep 04 19:55:25 I posted it too :P Sep 04 19:55:28 that's the one I had...but my ramdisk didn't play along Sep 04 19:55:30 www.villainrom.co.uk/Touchpad/rom Sep 04 19:55:31 :) Sep 04 19:56:13 so..do you use the the ramdisk from that msm8660_surf build? Sep 04 19:56:21 no Sep 04 19:56:28 the ramdisk is custom Sep 04 19:56:41 well yeah...but did you use it as base? Sep 04 19:56:49 surf Sep 04 19:56:49 or a stock one? Sep 04 19:56:50 does the touchpad have nfc and if so with the android implementation of it work with it? Sep 04 19:56:55 will the Sep 04 19:57:02 contrast on all the progress guys Sep 04 19:57:04 evil-doer: no Sep 04 19:57:17 congrats* Sep 04 19:57:17 mauimauer, no to which Sep 04 19:57:28 both Sep 04 19:57:49 mauimauer, what protocol does it use for that touch together communication with other webos devices? Sep 04 19:58:13 I modified the ramdisk.img from my qcom aosp build...got adbd running...but lvm.static vgscan didn't come up :( Sep 04 19:58:21 looks very nfcish Sep 04 19:58:23 I assume you guys are using jonpry's kernel? Sep 04 19:58:28 evil-doer don't think so Sep 04 19:58:31 more like bump Sep 04 19:59:02 and I don't reckon ifixit found a chip for nfc when they teared down the touchpad Sep 04 20:00:30 I'm pretty sure, ifixit never found any National Football Conference inside the touchpad Sep 04 20:00:57 ;) Sep 04 20:00:58 as far as ive seen to use the touchpad thingy youve gotta place the device right beside it, and keep it there. like its communicating between them Sep 04 20:01:12 bump doesnt do that at all Sep 04 20:01:38 did ya use ca's gingerbread-rel or another branch? Sep 04 20:05:10 gingerbread_house is more updated Sep 04 20:05:29 Great job Sep 04 20:06:12 I think i'll go for gingerbread_house ;) Sep 04 20:06:55 mauimauer: I'm going futureproof, ICS please Sep 04 20:08:29 But in all seriousness Sep 04 20:08:39 I think 2.3 will be our best bet Sep 04 20:08:47 Just don't expect 3.0 Sep 04 20:09:33 sooo...my plan for tonight Sep 04 20:09:52 johnpry's kernel, stock aosp ramdisk, qcom system img Sep 04 20:10:02 that's gonna take a while Sep 04 20:10:17 Keep us updated Sep 04 20:10:36 Remember you are doing this in the name of Aper.... erm Science Sep 04 20:10:53 Well...I am just repeating what has already been done ;) Sep 04 20:11:16 We do what we must because we c... is good for the community Sep 04 20:12:28 right ;) Sep 04 20:12:51 If android is ported to the device though, think about it Sep 04 20:13:21 This would be the the highest rated CPU and GPU out of all of them Sep 04 20:13:26 Unless I'm thinking wrong Sep 04 20:13:48 they all the new ones are that crappy tegra 2 arent they Sep 04 20:13:58 er Sep 04 20:14:01 yeah all the new Sep 04 20:14:38 the real question is. how it will run Sep 04 20:14:44 since it has to all be done hackish Sep 04 20:15:19 uhh...those cypress drivers look funny? Sep 04 20:15:31 from talks. it sounds useless Sep 04 20:15:40 without hp firmware + possibly of flashing it back to hp Sep 04 20:15:41 rhcp[linux]: Time will always tell Sep 04 20:15:58 you flash that firmware you have no way of coming back atm so it seems Sep 04 20:16:00 by popular demand Sep 04 20:16:13 well...why not extract the the tsp fw from hp's doctor image? Sep 04 20:16:29 it doesnt flash that chip Sep 04 20:16:31 afaik Sep 04 20:16:48 we're speaking of the cypress controller chip, right? Sep 04 20:16:54 of course Sep 04 20:16:59 yes Sep 04 20:17:04 afaik...sth. or someone needs to upload the fw after booting ;) Sep 04 20:17:05 cypress is contacted Sep 04 20:17:24 mauimauer, flashing the provided firmware is eay Sep 04 20:17:25 easy Sep 04 20:17:32 and hp's software team did just that...that's how I interpret that email Sep 04 20:17:33 the question is. Will it brick? will it only work in android? Sep 04 20:17:36 will it just die Sep 04 20:17:36 :) Sep 04 20:17:41 im not about to try it Sep 04 20:17:41 ok i get it ;) Sep 04 20:17:45 what's up - I saw that there was 1point touch in android Sep 04 20:17:51 but loading a fw should not flash it Sep 04 20:17:56 think it's only runtime load Sep 04 20:17:59 thats how it works Sep 04 20:18:03 you need to flash it to the chip Sep 04 20:18:05 just like most wlan controllers Sep 04 20:18:12 this is diff Sep 04 20:18:22 mhhhh Sep 04 20:18:35 that's ugly ;) Sep 04 20:18:50 and, if we cant find any hp firmware +flashing tool Sep 04 20:18:55 the other method i think is hacky Sep 04 20:19:27 the whole thing is a mess if you ask me Sep 04 20:19:29 :) Sep 04 20:19:35 :( Sep 04 20:19:38 i thought this was more like nook color when i read about it Sep 04 20:19:53 the thing i don't get is why we can't use the fw already on the cypress chip Sep 04 20:20:06 you can Sep 04 20:20:10 using the hackish method Sep 04 20:20:20 what's hackish about that? Sep 04 20:20:28 the way you access it. Sep 04 20:20:29 Any reason why devs wouldn't or shouldn't do it? Sep 04 20:20:30 and what comes out Sep 04 20:20:42 ok ;) Sep 04 20:20:43 To1776, what flash unkown firmware on our chips? Sep 04 20:20:50 care to send me a unit to test it on? Sep 04 20:20:56 well I hope I can up to speed tonight ;) Sep 04 20:20:58 I cant! Sep 04 20:21:05 then dont ask such a question Sep 04 20:21:06 :) Sep 04 20:21:14 I can think about the ts when I get Android to boot ;) Sep 04 20:21:21 I wasn't aware it could brick a TP Sep 04 20:21:34 there are soo many ways to brick it Sep 04 20:21:34 it can brick the ts controller ;) Sep 04 20:21:36 its not even funny Sep 04 20:21:39 that's bad too ;) Sep 04 20:22:00 the whole thing is whacky if you ask me Sep 04 20:22:15 im trying to think without touching bootie. how to archieve two kernels. that wont get fucked with Sep 04 20:22:19 err Sep 04 20:22:22 yea without Sep 04 20:22:32 Good luck! Sep 04 20:22:33 kexec is crap Sep 04 20:22:34 that's the way ;) Sep 04 20:22:40 so forget that Sep 04 20:22:42 bootie is a great bl btw ;) Sep 04 20:22:46 i know Sep 04 20:22:50 thats why i do not want to fuck with it Sep 04 20:22:55 so the cy8ctma375.hex and cy8ctma395.fw/hex and so forth wouldn't be useful for flashing back? sits on /lib/firmware on all touchpads Sep 04 20:23:13 dethlselin, figure out how to flash it. and test it. Sep 04 20:23:13 dethlselin: that's what I thought Sep 04 20:23:16 have fun :) Sep 04 20:23:29 most cynogenmods provide those proprietary files via overlay and extract from a stock img Sep 04 20:23:45 you miss a point Sep 04 20:23:53 I meant when going back and forth from android to webos Sep 04 20:23:57 ALL cyongmods ports are based off android phones Sep 04 20:24:00 and android devices Sep 04 20:24:02 this is not Sep 04 20:24:03 :) Sep 04 20:24:10 it's still linux ;) Sep 04 20:24:16 but its not android Sep 04 20:24:19 in any way shape or form Sep 04 20:24:20 right Sep 04 20:24:35 but because it's linux we should keep up the spirit ;) Sep 04 20:24:38 so for example Sep 04 20:24:49 say you are running this modded kernel to boot android Sep 04 20:24:55 flash F4/F5 in webos Sep 04 20:25:01 byebye android Sep 04 20:25:02 :P Sep 04 20:25:14 f4? Sep 04 20:25:15 F4/F5? Sep 04 20:25:24 overclock kernels Sep 04 20:25:29 oh Sep 04 20:25:36 jeeze you guys own touchpads and dont even read webos-int feeds Sep 04 20:25:36 :/ Sep 04 20:25:38 scarry Sep 04 20:25:49 i don't overclock Sep 04 20:25:51 simple as that ;) Sep 04 20:25:58 you are underclocked Sep 04 20:26:02 running at stock Sep 04 20:26:02 i know Sep 04 20:26:06 go read the datasheet :P Sep 04 20:26:09 stock is 1.5 Sep 04 20:26:12 I've OCd my Touchpad at 1.7 Ghz and it runs just fine Sep 04 20:26:16 Using F4 kernel Sep 04 20:26:26 i'd be worried to do it that fast Sep 04 20:26:28 I din't flash anything so far...just membooting ;) Sep 04 20:26:32 running Uberkernel here Sep 04 20:26:34 especially considering how hard it is to get another one Sep 04 20:26:43 You can OC as far as 1.9 but I've heard it's not stable Sep 04 20:26:44 i run a 1.5 havent had any need to be faster than that yet Sep 04 20:26:50 all I did was make space for my ext3 partition Sep 04 20:26:52 even heavily multitasking Sep 04 20:27:19 i havent even used mine Sep 04 20:27:20 :P Sep 04 20:27:25 the non-dev unit Sep 04 20:27:28 maybe for 10 mins Sep 04 20:27:43 well..I used mine for about two days Sep 04 20:27:48 made me kinda like webos Sep 04 20:27:57 took me 10 mins to like webos Sep 04 20:28:00 especially that it runs grooveshark.com in the browser Sep 04 20:28:11 really? Sep 04 20:28:11 which honeycomb doesn't :( Sep 04 20:28:13 sweet Sep 04 20:28:15 yup Sep 04 20:28:23 and the speakers are quite good Sep 04 20:28:27 for a tablet Sep 04 20:28:33 hadn't stumbled on that yet, was trying to use the grooveshark app Sep 04 20:28:37 which is terrible Sep 04 20:28:45 well you don't need it ;) Sep 04 20:28:53 using my tp right now ;) Sep 04 20:28:57 don't even need to change your user agent or sth. Sep 04 20:29:01 hahaha Sep 04 20:29:04 does anyone make roms for just webos? Sep 04 20:29:10 i never even know about groove shark Sep 04 20:29:12 but aleady broke my frame at speaker :( Sep 04 20:29:41 grooveshark ist great ;) Sep 04 20:29:44 -t Sep 04 20:29:45 k1l, my dev unit. I ripped apart to fix the home button Sep 04 20:29:54 its kinda loose in the right corner now Sep 04 20:29:55 grooveshark is like google music but not woth your own music Sep 04 20:30:00 i stuck it into a case Sep 04 20:30:04 its a bit tighter Sep 04 20:30:08 I got the hp case today... Sep 04 20:30:13 i got 3 Sep 04 20:30:13 don't like it so far :( Sep 04 20:30:24 the front cover is quite sloppy Sep 04 20:30:31 its perfect Sep 04 20:30:40 easy to carry. nice plastic support Sep 04 20:31:00 yeah...but nothing's holding the cover Sep 04 20:31:13 my hands are Sep 04 20:31:13 that's what I like about the samsung case I got me for the gt10.1 Sep 04 20:31:48 hp still needs to send my cover. but im sad about the scratch. i glued it and it works. but its ugly and when you know its there, well, its never gonna be the same again Sep 04 20:32:17 i got scratches all over my dev unit Sep 04 20:32:22 from ripping it apart last night Sep 04 20:32:26 lol Sep 04 20:32:39 i even have some hair and dust inside the lcd Sep 04 20:32:41 but w/e Sep 04 20:32:47 not about to rip it open again Sep 04 20:33:35 here in germany you cant easyly manage to get some 2nd device as a dev unit :/ Sep 04 20:33:47 but at what price Sep 04 20:34:18 except on ebay, where they go for 300+ bugs instead of 99 Sep 04 20:34:24 yep Sep 04 20:34:28 need one device aswell Sep 04 20:34:30 still dont know why ppl pay that much Sep 04 20:34:38 stupid? Sep 04 20:34:40 250 euro for 32gb Sep 04 20:35:01 ebay should ban/stop all of them Sep 04 20:35:06 let the price go back to 99 Sep 04 20:35:07 rhcp[linux], fixed your home button? Sep 04 20:35:22 onetootree, yea, but have scratches all over the case and its loose in the upper right hand corner Sep 04 20:35:25 price is already decresing Sep 04 20:35:27 i broke one of the clips Sep 04 20:35:29 without ebay there would be enough for ppl who want ine tp Sep 04 20:35:32 was 300 euro for 16gb Sep 04 20:35:36 now its 215 for 16 Sep 04 20:35:37 douchey_, that sucks Sep 04 20:35:42 ouch* Sep 04 20:35:45 not douchey_ Sep 04 20:35:47 I work retail, in chicago HHgrepp/Best buys are getting 30 per store tomarrow and TigerDirect will have 100 next week Sep 04 20:36:01 want one =( Sep 04 20:36:07 labor day? Sep 04 20:36:07 hmm Sep 04 20:36:32 DT chicago, I work for tigerdirect i know all the stores have a bunch just not releaseing them yet Sep 04 20:36:45 wow really? Sep 04 20:36:51 Waste to buy for $300 Sep 04 20:37:06 my local bestbuy shipped 90% of their stock to the biggest best buy (at the mall of georgia) Sep 04 20:37:09 i bet thats what they do again Sep 04 20:37:35 can i order online? Sep 04 20:37:41 my gf waited in line for 5 hours and got one at best buy but she was like 9/11 people who got them Sep 04 20:37:50 Store only, they doing it for laber day Sep 04 20:38:04 Most best buys held onto them for labor day weekend Sep 04 20:38:18 imagine seeing onetootree in here :P Sep 04 20:38:23 Atleast in chicagoland, same with HHgreggs and my tiger/compusa stores Sep 04 20:38:38 eHAPPY, im sure i know you but from where Sep 04 20:38:51 i went to an officedepot the week after the price drop and they still had a dozen Sep 04 20:40:49 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp6W4aK1sbs&ob=av3e Sep 04 20:50:07 Back Sep 04 20:50:26 That was a long drive lol. I hate traffic Sep 04 20:51:52 is this single-touch working confirmed? Sep 04 20:54:16 How should I know? Sep 04 20:54:20 O wait Sep 04 20:54:21 I heard multi was might be up Sep 04 20:54:26 Has no one gotten a hold of the already working touchdroids? Sep 04 20:54:45 and that its gonna be released tonight......no no it won't Sep 04 20:54:53 what does it mean by single touch? Sep 04 20:55:02 one finger touch ;) Sep 04 20:55:10 isnt that what everyone uses Sep 04 20:55:11 ? Sep 04 20:55:12 Not two fingers or more Sep 04 20:55:14 think resistive Sep 04 20:55:16 i use 1 finger on my phone Sep 04 20:55:25 well...you could use more ;) Sep 04 20:55:28 Think no pinch and zoom Sep 04 20:55:31 I use all 10, like the touchscreen was designed for. Sep 04 20:55:32 ohh ok Sep 04 20:55:39 i think 1 touch is enough lol Sep 04 20:55:48 it's a start Sep 04 20:55:49 it's not Sep 04 20:55:52 it's like a chinese tablet :P Sep 04 20:55:56 think how much you use dual touch Sep 04 20:55:58 or multi touch Sep 04 20:56:03 for zooming in browser Sep 04 20:56:04 ENJOLT: thimk of pinch to zoom in pictures or google maps Sep 04 20:56:07 maps Sep 04 20:56:08 etc Sep 04 20:56:24 ah Sep 04 20:56:33 Um rotation is no good on the nexus one Sep 04 20:57:06 I hope its better on the to when its done Sep 04 20:57:57 Y hasn't there been a demonstration yet? Will they do it once all the fingers are accepted? Sep 04 20:59:02 i wonder if flash works Sep 04 20:59:07 on touchdroid Sep 04 20:59:25 it should Sep 04 21:02:04 camera flash? Sep 04 21:02:06 :P Sep 04 21:02:15 lol Sep 04 21:02:41 duct tape + keychain led Sep 04 21:02:50 hehe Sep 04 21:03:31 so whats the deal with the touch screen? Sep 04 21:03:38 how come its not working out? Sep 04 21:03:54 seb^: driver for digitizer aee a mess Sep 04 21:04:03 *are Sep 04 21:04:07 kk Sep 04 21:09:48 um....so, any progress/updates from the past 4 days? Sep 04 21:09:59 HE ASKED FOR UPDATES Sep 04 21:10:08 omg i asked for updates Sep 04 21:10:11 nickmv: yeah topic updated to tell people not to ask Sep 04 21:11:26 nickdev: just babysteps in this marathon to androidport Sep 04 21:12:32 dont ask for progress Sep 04 21:13:49 honestly i understand ppl asking. but i read backlog or wait until some devs tell whats going on Sep 04 21:22:46 boggle Sep 04 21:23:56 i wonder why cypress hasnt responded yet xD Sep 04 21:24:01 they are even working sundays Sep 04 21:24:03 lol Sep 04 21:24:57 responded to what Sep 04 21:29:44 topaz power! Sep 04 21:30:12 those wo already got g Sep 04 21:30:19 argh Sep 04 21:31:10 any new developments? Sep 04 21:31:32 Another kitty dies Sep 04 21:31:41 lol Sep 04 21:32:00 read the topic Sep 04 21:32:04 unfortunately the only real purpose of the channel. Sep 04 21:32:04 jeeeeeeeeeeez Sep 04 21:32:39 badgers fan? Sep 04 21:33:19 nah went to UW years ago and used this handle ever sense. No point in changing. Sep 04 21:35:54 there is progress Sep 04 21:36:03 Pulser|Offline Sep 04 21:36:05 before you go :P Sep 04 21:36:20 emp must be too late Sep 04 21:36:21 xp Sep 04 21:38:00 Do you know if they have the Bluetooth stack working? Sep 04 21:38:16 nothing is working yet Sep 04 21:38:25 they got single touch Sep 04 21:38:31 multi touch is in the works Sep 04 21:38:41 nice Sep 04 21:39:31 mhhh...hope someone is documenting the steps so far ;) Sep 04 21:39:39 best thing you can do is stop asking for progress Sep 04 21:40:06 we have to wait for an answer from cypress Sep 04 21:40:10 hope they (whoever "they" are) will open up development a bit ;) Sep 04 21:40:20 Did Cypress have android drivers available or only webos drivers? Sep 04 21:40:30 cypress did send android drivers Sep 04 21:40:42 Sweet Sep 04 21:40:49 at least they have an Android.mk Sep 04 21:41:00 indicating they have been used to be build inside the android buildsystem ;) Sep 04 21:41:33 hope i get past the ramdisk lvm2 issues this time Sep 04 21:41:53 If Cypress had native android drivers then what is the holdup? Sep 04 21:41:58 no Sep 04 21:42:09 hp modified something Sep 04 21:42:20 flashing the firmware could brick the touchscreen Sep 04 21:42:37 mhhh...but could'nt you reflash Sep 04 21:42:42 is it driver or is it more like firmware? Sep 04 21:42:43 ouch. HP customized the fw? Sep 04 21:42:43 since we're having adb ;) Sep 04 21:42:50 it's the fw...imho Sep 04 21:42:51 HP modified cypress firmware? Sep 04 21:43:00 those cypress files contain a fw for a generic device Sep 04 21:43:01 ya Sep 04 21:43:03 not the touchpad Sep 04 21:43:16 Those dickholes Sep 04 21:43:19 that's unfortunate Sep 04 21:43:20 the drivers dont work out of the box Sep 04 21:43:29 they removed bootloader support Sep 04 21:43:32 i believe Sep 04 21:43:35 and Sep 04 21:43:35 and no unbricker yet Sep 04 21:43:51 there is no way to dump the webos touchscreen firmware Sep 04 21:43:52 atm Sep 04 21:44:08 uhmm...the webos image contains the cypress fw Sep 04 21:44:10 so you wont be able to use touchscreen on both webos and android Sep 04 21:44:18 i've seen it ;) Sep 04 21:44:28 I'm betting somebody on the cm side will rip one apart and dump it. Sep 04 21:44:36 /lib/firmware Sep 04 21:44:43 well..at least someone is at it Sep 04 21:44:49 there's firmware for the cy8ctma375/395 Sep 04 21:44:50 so...all we need is patience Sep 04 21:44:58 ya there is Sep 04 21:45:01 xDarkice: so it would require a flash every booting in dualboot Sep 04 21:45:04 they sent it to me today Sep 04 21:45:16 yes Sep 04 21:45:31 but Sep 04 21:45:53 the android firmware isnt working out of the box Sep 04 21:46:02 it could brick your touchscreen Sep 04 21:46:07 when flashing Sep 04 21:46:25 xDarkice...so you do have android booting too? Sep 04 21:46:36 man...I need to compile this fast...I want to join the fun ;) Sep 04 21:46:43 no Sep 04 21:46:46 i dont got a device Sep 04 21:46:52 im just supporting this Sep 04 21:47:04 having mail contact with cypress Sep 04 21:47:13 good it's cypress ;) Sep 04 21:47:40 xDarkice Sep 04 21:47:43 thanks for getting those drivers Sep 04 21:47:44 can't get android.git.kernel.org to respond....this is annoying....I can't even download source code to compile Sep 04 21:47:51 no problem Sep 04 21:47:59 im just confused why they responded to me? Sep 04 21:48:09 someone else actually contacted them Sep 04 21:48:14 and didnt respond Sep 04 21:48:20 dethlselin: kernel.org down Sep 04 21:48:29 due to hacking kernel.org Sep 04 21:48:42 kernel.org's site come's up Sep 04 21:48:49 oh god a remember pulling down the full repo some months ago. Took forever and had to do multiple times. Sep 04 21:48:51 so are the hackers targeting android? Sep 04 21:49:05 hackers target everything Sep 04 21:49:09 *comes Sep 04 21:49:14 no it was accidental Sep 04 21:49:17 well, android.git taken down due to google requested because of hacking kernel.org Sep 04 21:49:27 thats corrected ;) Sep 04 21:49:29 wuz... Sep 04 21:49:33 ah Sep 04 21:49:40 i synced aosp 2 hours ago Sep 04 21:49:45 the hackers had no idea etc they were trying to do Sep 04 21:49:49 but i had to switch to http instead of git:// Sep 04 21:50:41 since the git repo is hashed there shouldnt be malware. but google didnt want to rosk anything i think Sep 04 21:51:36 * farchord yawns. Sep 04 21:52:46 * blizz5243 eats more doritoes Sep 04 21:53:11 I looked into modifying the Kindle webOS app to support side loaded books. I see why nobody else has touched that. lol. Its a mess all hidden away compiled instead of just using the compiled stuff as a library. Sucks Sep 04 21:59:52 so touchscreen is working now? Sep 04 22:00:03 STOP ASKING Sep 04 22:00:26 yes, but there was a firesale on android port and you are too late Sep 04 22:00:30 y Sep 04 22:01:39 loool Sep 04 22:01:42 dalingrin tweeted that single touch is working, and to thank jonpry and verygreen Sep 04 22:01:47 SharkUW: are you going to continue trying? i'd love to sideload as the Kindle app is by far the best ereader for webOS i've seen so far Sep 04 22:01:59 moldy_: Yeah, it works, but we sold out of the 500 available digital downloads we put on Sep 04 22:02:05 You missed out on the android sale Sep 04 22:02:19 moldy_: the entire channel got one when it was announced Sep 04 22:02:19 sureeeee Sep 04 22:02:29 i have a raincheck i'll sell u Sep 04 22:02:41 kiddecks: NO SELLING RAINCHECKS Sep 04 22:02:45 IT'S NOT FOR RESALE Sep 04 22:02:53 dalingrin belongs to cm team and they are not sharing until they release Sep 04 22:02:53 CAPS!!!!!!! Sep 04 22:02:58 OK K K Sep 04 22:03:04 fucking kids, Sep 04 22:03:09 is wrong Sep 04 22:03:18 but jonpry is here Sep 04 22:03:34 You ask for status you earn a kick. You were warned. Follow @rhcp011235 on Twitter for updates, or wait here patiently. Sep 04 22:03:51 http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/16/hands-on-with-fusion-garages-grid-10-tablet-and-grid-4-smartpho/ Sep 04 22:03:57 sweet ui Sep 04 22:04:01 possibly. I was hoping to have access to some functions to manipulate its db but the ones I need are too wrapped up. Sep 04 22:04:09 I didn't ask a status Sep 04 22:04:22 you kinda did Sep 04 22:04:23 * darkredflame was kicked by @rchp [Reason: REPOSTING HEADER IS A KICK, SON] Sep 04 22:04:47 getting touchscreen working falls into the progress category Sep 04 22:04:56 you asked bout touchscreen, thus you asked bout progress Sep 04 22:05:01 ...thus you asked a status Sep 04 22:05:08 thus... boom. Sep 04 22:05:10 * Logoboy explodes. Sep 04 22:05:27 I did ask when it would done or any kind of eta Sep 04 22:05:32 didnt Sep 04 22:05:47 You were still asking for a status Sep 04 22:05:57 A status doesn't have to give out a ETA Sep 04 22:05:58 imagine everyone joining and asking "is touchscreen working now?" Sep 04 22:06:01 sounds like a status Sep 04 22:06:18 whatever dude Sep 04 22:06:18 TOUCHSCREEN WILL BE WORKING WHEN IT SAYS ON THE HEADER, TOUCHSCREEN IS NOW WORKING Sep 04 22:06:30 or on the damn site the topic links to, ABOUT PROGRESS Sep 04 22:06:33 actually everyone joining is asking for status :X Sep 04 22:06:38 ^ Sep 04 22:06:56 I think...we can help the devs out by answering the people Sep 04 22:07:02 when ppl tweet about it, it should be a valid question Sep 04 22:07:03 identified. Sep 04 22:07:22 well, what exactly is the intended purpose of the channel? Sep 04 22:07:33 point Sep 04 22:07:36 It's the facade channel for "dev" Sep 04 22:07:42 The real dev channel is locked and hidden Sep 04 22:07:50 lol...."hidden" Sep 04 22:07:50 this is mainly to keep you updated...when they got something Sep 04 22:07:50 exactly Sep 04 22:07:54 So we don't have people asking IS IT DONE YET Sep 04 22:07:55 not whenever someone asks every 5 seconds. Sep 04 22:08:15 they discuss some things here and there Sep 04 22:08:20 let people talk Sep 04 22:08:24 so darkredflame can talk shit to everyone and feel like he is important Sep 04 22:08:32 hahaha Sep 04 22:08:34 yup Sep 04 22:08:40 he got you there Sep 04 22:08:47 Totally, afterall my e-penis is about 400 yards Sep 04 22:08:57 he is a troll Sep 04 22:09:05 OH MAN GUYS Sep 04 22:09:08 I'M TOTALLY TROLLING Sep 04 22:09:15 YOU BETTER WATCHED OUT OR ILL TROLL YOU Sep 04 22:09:30 OH MAN, I GOT SO MUCH TROLLING RELATED THINGS Sep 04 22:09:36 probably doesn't even know how to root his phone Sep 04 22:09:41 WATCH OUT, I'LL POST RICKROLLS Sep 04 22:09:49 bored? Sep 04 22:10:03 NO YOU DON"T Sep 04 22:10:13 you should fix your caps first Sep 04 22:10:15 Actually honestly, I'm using ADB to controll android on my TP Sep 04 22:10:21 I hate HATE hate that Indian Quallcomm guy for not releasing sauce! Sep 04 22:10:44 Anyways, everyone get Box.net from the Market for the touchpad Sep 04 22:10:49 50GB free! Sep 04 22:10:51 I did Sep 04 22:10:58 Good job! Sep 04 22:11:03 aren't you proud of me? Sep 04 22:11:05 native American or regular? Sep 04 22:11:22 lol jamenlang Sep 04 22:11:29 yep Sep 04 22:11:33 I have backtrack on my tp :-) Sep 04 22:11:49 Cool, already put backtrack 5 on my TP Sep 04 22:11:54 I just discovered how to get past the megavideo time limit, after all these years. I'm such a noob :), all I needed was a small plugin on google chrome, sigh. Sep 04 22:12:03 But then I found out I like it better on my actual laptop Sep 04 22:12:04 loving it Sep 04 22:12:25 haha what extension? Sep 04 22:12:35 Logoboy: Plugins are fun, I remember having to reset my IP Sep 04 22:12:45 yeah I used to reset my shit too every time Sep 04 22:12:50 for new ip Sep 04 22:12:52 grr Sep 04 22:13:11 moldy_:cahadoora or some shit Sep 04 22:13:14 let me get the name hold on Sep 04 22:13:37 But anyway, to close this up Sep 04 22:13:40 cool thanks Sep 04 22:14:03 woops Sep 04 22:14:04 was way off Sep 04 22:14:05 Don't ask for updates, once we get a stable working on it, we will update the status Sep 04 22:14:05 sorry Sep 04 22:14:15 Usually devs are the first to know Sep 04 22:14:15 it's called cacaoweb at cacaoweb.org Sep 04 22:14:24 Then it goes public in 5-10 minutes Sep 04 22:14:40 installed it and it sends you to their portal, with a search box. in that box just paste the link megavideo gives you and voila Sep 04 22:14:48 no time limit, they show you a flash player in the browser. Sep 04 22:14:52 works like a charm Sep 04 22:15:16 cacaoweb Sep 04 22:15:33 are there any instructions floating around to get cwm installed? Sep 04 22:15:53 Yeah there are a lot Sep 04 22:16:02 If you mean for every device besides the TP Sep 04 22:16:03 What's the best program to edit videos to fake stuf (like, say, pretending I got Honeycomb on the tp?) Sep 04 22:16:16 after effects Sep 04 22:16:17 tusing: I do love Sony Vegas Sep 04 22:16:18 no... just wondering about the tp Sep 04 22:16:30 long2know: CWM isn't even working on the TP Sep 04 22:16:34 I love sony vegas too, but after effects can get the job done too Sep 04 22:16:38 darkredflame: Okay. How much did you buy (or *acquire*) it for? Sep 04 22:16:42 They got a image booting and multitouch Sep 04 22:16:45 lool Sep 04 22:16:49 TARGET_PRODUCT=full_topaz Sep 04 22:16:56 tusing: I got it from demonoid Sep 04 22:17:02 oh... I thought I saw cwm running in the latest video showing dual boot Sep 04 22:17:07 Good job, darkredflame Sep 04 22:17:12 You deserve a cookie Sep 04 22:17:23 long2know: That was touchdroid, not CM Sep 04 22:17:25 well, if anyone know how to setup a device tree. Sep 04 22:17:34 i could prob get CWM on this thing Sep 04 22:17:37 and some other nice stuff Sep 04 22:17:39 rhcp...that's what i am doing right now Sep 04 22:17:51 I was about to say' Sep 04 22:17:58 based on msm7k configs and stuff from codeaurora Sep 04 22:17:58 Mauimauer is working on a tree Sep 04 22:18:25 you mean /device/hp/topaz ;) Sep 04 22:19:01 Besides guys, even if we were to release a working port as of right now, you wouldn't use it anyway Sep 04 22:19:17 No 2D/3D Acceleration, Gyroscope, Wifi, Bluetooth, Etc Sep 04 22:19:24 right Sep 04 22:19:27 would be kinda pointless Sep 04 22:19:36 hope i'll get lvm.static to work for me this time :/ Sep 04 22:19:53 Flemmards...got it right Sep 04 22:19:54 Let me know how it goes Sep 04 22:19:57 -s Sep 04 22:21:45 joojoo. Sep 04 22:32:32 i wonder will webos be ported to android ? :P Sep 04 22:35:09 lol Nzaw4q i dont think so Sep 04 22:35:24 we tryin to go the oposite way Sep 04 22:35:45 well i like webOS but i want android apps Sep 04 22:39:15 erm...is the driver from cypress something different than: http://www.cypress.com/?rID=44238 Sep 04 22:39:50 yes Sep 04 22:39:57 that driver is for tma 340 Sep 04 22:40:04 ours is 375? Sep 04 22:40:06 but in hp touchpad there is tma395 Sep 04 22:40:09 and 375 Sep 04 22:40:16 okeydokey Sep 04 22:40:18 master chip is 395 Sep 04 22:41:02 http://team-touchdroid.com/wiki/index.php/Parts_List Sep 04 22:41:09 - Sep 04 22:41:35 Cypress Semiconductor - features - CY8CTMA395 - MCU for touch and CY8CTMA375 (Qty:5) Sep 04 22:42:03 u dont got link for new drivers? Sep 04 22:42:21 http://www.villainrom.co.uk/Touchpad/ Sep 04 22:44:40 anyway im done for today Sep 04 22:45:05 hopefully there will be an answer tomorrow Sep 04 22:45:09 bye Sep 04 22:50:20 man, we're having one hellova thunderstorm here Sep 04 22:51:31 send it this way. Sep 04 23:09:23 Whats the status of the touchscreen port (PLEASE KICK ME) Sep 04 23:19:39 what are the good apps for webos? can somebody names me some? ;) Sep 04 23:20:00 wirc Sep 04 23:20:07 preware Sep 04 23:22:18 got those Sep 04 23:57:07 trying to decide between warthog and f15c eagle. does f15c actually OC both cores? Sep 04 23:58:09 f15c has been broken Sep 04 23:58:17 only using one core Sep 04 23:58:30 but the recent update seems to have fixed it Sep 04 23:59:35 are you using it without any issues? Sep 04 23:59:46 aside from that Sep 05 00:00:15 yeah is works fine Sep 05 00:00:22 cool thanks Sep 05 00:00:42 even OC 1.8 with only one core aint bad with all the tweaks Sep 05 00:01:04 1.9 locks up on most TPs I think Sep 05 00:02:15 easily reversible? Sep 05 00:02:48 yep Sep 05 00:03:10 just power off Sep 05 00:03:46 any updates Sep 05 00:04:46 be sure to get all the speed tweaks from preware Sep 05 00:04:59 disable logging etc Sep 05 00:05:03 those really help Sep 05 00:05:11 patches Sep 05 00:06:59 alright Sep 05 00:14:27 lol I asked that 3 days ago dont ask Sep 05 00:21:49 nite Sep 05 00:36:55 Om nom nomonomnomnomnomnom Sep 05 00:37:06 * tusing eats everyone here Sep 05 00:37:27 * HPrep hmm Sep 05 00:38:47 * tusing acquired software from the internet Sep 05 00:43:42 * bikcmp humps Rodderik_ Sep 05 00:46:37 quiet in here Sep 05 00:53:24 very quiet... Sep 05 00:55:07 * polardude shouts at the computer…. and unplugs the power in anger Sep 05 01:00:57 So wait Sep 05 01:01:07 What was the point of the other 5 star wars Sep 05 01:01:10 The first one was good enough Sep 05 01:02:15 (just watched the first one for the first time on blu-ray) Sep 05 01:03:00 btw...did jonpry unbrick his device? Sep 05 01:03:21 would be great if we had a way to recover if only the pbl works Sep 05 01:04:17 not that i know of Sep 05 01:05:22 thanks Sep 05 01:08:12 I was wiling to brick my device earlier for rhcp's glory.... but he forgot me.... *sigh* Sep 05 01:08:56 farchord: he forgets a lot :P Sep 05 01:09:16 You know I've been using XFCE, but im getting sick of my xsession getting corrupt and everything going to hell in a handbasket Sep 05 01:09:28 I might just go back to gnome and die a little inside Sep 05 01:09:51 stock freebsd over here Sep 05 01:09:54 ooooooooooooooh yeah Sep 05 01:10:01 lol Sep 05 01:10:27 I'm converting Xenogears to my PSP atm Sep 05 01:10:33 n00bs! I'm installing Ubuntu 10.10 on my TP Sep 05 01:10:34 felt like playing that game again Sep 05 01:10:38 well, I'm also a noob Sep 05 01:10:45 because I use ubuntu Sep 05 01:10:48 I more and more hate ubuntu Sep 05 01:10:54 I more and more love fedora Sep 05 01:11:00 I been forcing myself on to Ubuntu this week Sep 05 01:11:11 Hating every minute of it Sep 05 01:11:21 I rather use Arch Linux than Ubuntu Sep 05 01:11:22 They need to make a fedora CHROOT for the TP!!!!! Sep 05 01:11:27 I also hate ubuntu Sep 05 01:11:38 But I'm too noob for debian and thats the only other chroot os Sep 05 01:11:39 They have debian but its buggy Sep 05 01:11:49 I need fedora 15 on this thing asap Sep 05 01:12:19 I'm still using fedora 9 on my ps3 Sep 05 01:12:21 lol Sep 05 01:12:49 it seems like to me this project has slowed way down in the last 3 or 4 days not a lot going on science the duel boot. Is everyone just relaxing now like my self and the labor day weekend. I hope we all get back on pace after the holiday lol Sep 05 01:12:59 Im a freeBSD guy... but with so many people on Ubuntu I must learn.. Sep 05 01:13:10 cypher: freeBSD unite! Sep 05 01:13:18 ubuntu > * Sep 05 01:13:25 it's taken over *nix the past 3 years Sep 05 01:13:34 windows vista > ubuntu Sep 05 01:13:56 unity blows, can't stand ubuntu anymore Sep 05 01:14:02 what's wrong with ubuntu? Sep 05 01:14:04 windows ME > all Sep 05 01:14:09 or you just hate it because its "popular"? Sep 05 01:14:10 lol Sep 05 01:14:17 Windows ME was the best operating system ever made Sep 05 01:14:24 LOL Sep 05 01:14:28 Its too dam user friendly... Sep 05 01:14:29 lol Sep 05 01:14:29 linux nerds sre Sep 05 01:14:33 Should of stopped making operating systems after that Sep 05 01:14:47 My brand new laptop came with Windows 7 Sep 05 01:14:50 did we need -c gzip on the ramdisk? Sep 05 01:14:54 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k7KTqWuBSo Sep 05 01:14:56 I installed Windows ME on it right away Sep 05 01:14:57 *memories* Sep 05 01:14:59 linux nerds aren't used to popularity it scares us Sep 05 01:15:04 putting together my uMulti right now Sep 05 01:15:18 OH MAN Sep 05 01:15:24 WINDOWS ME INTRO VIDEO GRAPHICS Sep 05 01:15:42 THOSE FROSTBITE GUYS NEED TO LEARN FROM THIS VIDEO Sep 05 01:15:48 lol Sep 05 01:15:50 THIS WILL SHOW YOU HOW GRAPHICS SHOULD BE Sep 05 01:16:33 so we all just hate Ubuntu to be trendy? Sep 05 01:16:34 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmNFUWSYatM This still brings me chills. Sep 05 01:16:58 "i hate ubuntu because everyone uses it, i'm going back to slackware" Sep 05 01:17:25 make me want to fly lol Sep 05 01:17:41 aiite aiite, who here can STILL recite the DEVILSOWN cdkey by heart? Sep 05 01:18:17 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk Sep 05 01:18:27 HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK THIS ADVANCED OPERATING SYSTEM IS WORTH? Sep 05 01:18:29 lol Sep 05 01:18:34 Not fair, I have an enterprise key Sep 05 01:18:36 REVERSI Sep 05 01:19:13 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8To-6VIJZRE a classic which will ALWAYS be good Sep 05 01:19:45 STEVE BALLMER IS RIGHT Sep 05 01:19:49 FORGET ABOUT WINDOWS 7 Sep 05 01:19:55 WE NEED MORE DEVELOPERS ON WINDOWS ME Sep 05 01:21:21 darkredflame: WE NEED MORE DEVELOPMENT ON 1 YOU NOOB Sep 05 01:21:21 I still miss non multitasking OS's they where so much faster! Sep 05 01:21:45 so Sep 05 01:21:48 cypher: No one's stopping you from installing an OS from 1981 or buying an iPad. Sep 05 01:21:50 3 people "hate ubnutu" Sep 05 01:21:53 0 people have a reason for it. Sep 05 01:21:56 love it. Sep 05 01:22:02 tusing: lol Sep 05 01:22:05 glacious: we all have reasons for it Sep 05 01:22:18 glacious: its pure shit 100% you cant find shit this pure ANYWHERE else Sep 05 01:22:27 tusing: source? Sep 05 01:22:37 glacious: look around you Sep 05 01:22:45 glacious: do you see shit as pure as this? Sep 05 01:22:49 glacious: you don't Sep 05 01:22:51 not amusing Sep 05 01:22:53 Glacious: Im jsut not use to it. Sep 05 01:23:35 is this cocainedroid? did i join the wrong chat? Sep 05 01:23:37 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvmfXA2DUUo I remember testing that, that was good Sep 05 01:23:44 glacious: It's hard to use, adapted to hardcore noobs (people that are so noob they are hardcore noobs) and it has a nonsensical ui Sep 05 01:24:33 ok so you don't like the default WM Sep 05 01:24:47 I, personally, am now more UNIX oriented now Sep 05 01:24:54 you said its easy to use, and the default WM isn't your favorite one. Sep 05 01:25:39 glacious: I'm just mad at the direction they are taking Sep 05 01:25:54 The WM for 10.10 was so much better. The new one is impossible! Sep 05 01:26:21 OH MAN GUYS Sep 05 01:26:21 but otherwise its not THAT much pure shit Sep 05 01:26:22 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvgY5GNl6vk&feature=related Sep 05 01:26:25 THIS SHIT Sep 05 01:26:28 i applaud their efforts for bringing Linux to the masses Sep 05 01:26:28 THIS SHIT RIGHT HERE Sep 05 01:26:32 THIS IS LIKE WINDOWS ME 2.0 Sep 05 01:26:54 glacious: Good point. They AREN'T completely shit, I remember now. Thanks for reminding me. Sep 05 01:27:13 darkredflame: Its obviously a remake of 1.0 with less features Sep 05 01:27:27 but Sep 05 01:27:27 but Sep 05 01:28:25 darkredflame: but Sep 05 01:28:44 IT CANT BE Sep 05 01:28:56 THIS IS MICROSOFT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT Sep 05 01:29:01 LESS STUFF = FUTURE! Sep 05 01:29:02 darkredflame: When animations take 4 seconds before you can click on something, you know its bad Sep 05 01:29:25 Oh, like the iPad? Sep 05 01:29:34 darkredflame: good point! Now the Windows 8 tablets can't run 99% of existing windows apps Sep 05 01:30:01 kde ftw Sep 05 01:30:09 Ehh, it'll support Windows ME programs Sep 05 01:30:12 That all I care about Sep 05 01:31:05 you know what you need ..... a zuuuuuuune Sep 05 01:31:21 unless the tablet is x86 based, wont it not run anything not compiled for arm? Sep 05 01:31:28 Zune is the best media player ever! So much more revolutionary (/sarcasm) Sep 05 01:31:45 evil-doer: You lost me at "wont it not" Sep 05 01:31:46 Its funny I work in a semiconductor lab... and half the machines run win98 the travesty Sep 05 01:32:02 Ehhh it's all good Sep 05 01:32:06 I work for an ISP Sep 05 01:32:13 cypher: That's so ironic I just... just... shouldn't you guys be running some linux distro? Sep 05 01:32:16 Most of our computers run Windows 95 Sep 05 01:32:37 God did you guys like time-travel me to 2000? Sep 05 01:32:47 Customer Support runs windows xp Sep 05 01:33:05 Hell our fucking security system runs off of Win 2000 Professional Sep 05 01:33:08 Problem is the machines are hooked in to instruments that cost alot... and we would have to write drivers to those ancient machines Sep 05 01:33:22 darkredflame: Get metasploit! And then pentest the security system Sep 05 01:33:33 zune! Sep 05 01:33:34 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrpS2KhiXAM Sep 05 01:33:42 tusing: I should Sep 05 01:34:12 darkredflame: Just don't try to go to jail for life Sep 05 01:34:21 But unfortunately our office is due for a upgrade Sep 05 01:34:26 Fucking CenturyLink Sep 05 01:34:41 And the taking over Qwest and our outdated computers Sep 05 01:35:26 I bet there's still someone running the very first OS ever made. Sep 05 01:35:39 Doubtfull Sep 05 01:35:55 It ran on vacuum tubes Sep 05 01:36:20 in other news... iphone 5 is to be thinner, 4 inch screen, higher resolution, possible built-in pico projector Sep 05 01:36:41 cypher: Wut Sep 05 01:37:07 I laugh at the projector Sep 05 01:37:42 i laugh at your life and anything you've accomplished, darkredflame Sep 05 01:37:54 Long wikipedia pasta incoming in Sep 05 01:37:55 3 Sep 05 01:37:55 incase those that are interested Sep 05 01:37:56 2 Sep 05 01:37:57 1 Sep 05 01:37:58 Vacuum tubes, which could be used for switching, made electronic computing possible for the first time, but the cost and relatively short mean time between failure of tubes were limiting factors. "The common wisdom was that valves—which, like light bulbs, contained a hot glowing filament—could never be used satisfactorily in large numbers, for they were unreliable, and in a large installation too many would fail in too short a Sep 05 01:38:02 # same as webos (From 2.2 dump) Sep 05 01:38:02 2f3d86112c30f8d4f6adb3ac6bd25ab1 ./yamato_pfp.fw Sep 05 01:38:02 # Same as webos (from 2.2 dump) Sep 05 01:38:02 9d6286c1aa1c2d64f79a503e7f0629f2 ./q6.b00 Sep 05 01:38:08 these are the only two fw files Sep 05 01:38:10 Yo! Can we get a video of the single touch working? Sep 05 01:38:11 brb Sep 05 01:38:16 that match the 2.2 dump + webos Sep 05 01:38:25 Interesting Sep 05 01:38:30 No idea what that means Sep 05 01:38:32 Vacuum tubes, which could be used for switching, made electronic computing possible for the first time, but the cost and relatively short mean time between failure of tubes were limiting factors. "The common wisdom was that valves—which, like light bulbs, contained a hot glowing filament—could never be used satisfactorily in large numbers, for they were unreliable, and in a large installation too many would fail in Sep 05 01:38:32 too short a time".[10] Tommy Flowers, who later designed Colossus, "discovered that, so long as valves were switched on and left on, they could operate reliably for very long periods, especially if their ‘heaters’ were run on a reduced current".[10] In 1934 Flowers built a successful experimental installation using over 3,000 tubes in small independent modules; it was accepted by the Post Office (who operated tele Sep 05 01:38:32 phone exchanges). Flowers was also a pioneer of using tubes as very fast (compared to electromechanical devices) electronic switches. Later work confirmed that tube unreliability was not as serious an issue as generally believed; the 1946 ENIAC, with over 17,000 tubes, had a tube failure (which took 15 minutes to locate) on average every two days.[11] During the second world war Colossus was instrumental in breaking Ge Sep 05 01:38:33 rman codes. After the war development continued, with tube-based computers including military computers ENIAC and Whirlwind, the Ferranti Mark 1 (the first commercially available electronic computer), and UNIVAC I, also available commercially. Sep 05 01:38:35 There is a group of people rebuilding old computers, many solid-state, but some with tubes. Their website includes discussion of circuits, various tubes built specifically for computer use (ECC91 for general logic use, E90CC and E92CC for computer use), and other information.[12] A Colossus has been rebuilt; the only tube computer being restored as of 2011 was the very reliable but very slow Harwell WITCH. Sep 05 01:38:36 rhcp[linux]: for firmware? Sep 05 01:38:39 the fuck tusing_ Sep 05 01:38:40 yes Sep 05 01:38:41 ban this fool rhcp[linux] Sep 05 01:38:44 not sure what they are Sep 05 01:38:54 Necrosan[c]: I warned everyone of a long wikipedia pasta Sep 05 01:39:07 warn schmarn Sep 05 01:39:23 rhcp[linux]: those should work in theory, no? Sep 05 01:39:32 they are the same so no need really Sep 05 01:39:37 ah Sep 05 01:39:38 just need to see what they are. Sep 05 01:39:48 i think one is power management Sep 05 01:39:57 http://pastebin.com/vBrJDzaS Sep 05 01:41:10 sorry for the pasta i didnt know that was a rule Sep 05 01:41:21 its ok. its a rule in any chan Sep 05 01:41:26 it just fills up peoples buffers Sep 05 01:42:47 Anybody else find it funny that BatNode came in here ask for a single touch video Sep 05 01:42:56 When he is supposed to be representing CM? Sep 05 01:43:37 tusing seems the first OS was a washing line where punch cards where passed to the execution unit.. mainly a guy putting the cards in Sep 05 01:44:02 im just doing some foot work Sep 05 01:44:08 i plan on putting everyting on git soon Sep 05 01:44:16 take your time Sep 05 01:44:19 turn this into a commityh effort Sep 05 01:44:28 i dont have the time to stay up 6-7am everynight Sep 05 01:44:36 its starting to effect my health Sep 05 01:44:44 nah rhcp[linux] hoard it Sep 05 01:44:47 hoard it i say! Sep 05 01:44:55 nah Sep 05 01:44:58 if people can help Sep 05 01:44:59 let em Sep 05 01:45:04 ill just add a nice disclamer Sep 05 01:45:09 it was /sarcasm Sep 05 01:45:11 'not responsiable for any bricks' Sep 05 01:46:27 * sCr|pTiC- plays asphalt 9 Sep 05 01:47:58 rhcp: makes sense Sep 05 01:48:02 simple enough Sep 05 01:48:29 yea it just seems to be a waste of my time. whatever we are working on. CM is. so Sep 05 01:48:38 rebuilding the wheel seems to be a waste Sep 05 01:48:42 rhcp: random side question, which distro do you run? Sep 05 01:48:47 but anyone is welcome to try Sep 05 01:48:49 os[Linux 2.6.38-11-generic x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "natty" 11.04] cpu[8 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 870 @ 2.93GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.20GHz] mem[Physical: 15.7GB, 61.8% free] disk[Total: 5.4TB, 81.8% free] video[nVidia Corporation G92 [GeForce 9800 GT]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel] Sep 05 01:48:52 haha Sep 05 01:48:54 ty ;) Sep 05 01:49:45 also answers my follow-up question, how much memory do you have free. Sep 05 01:49:58 out of 16G Sep 05 01:50:01 61% Sep 05 01:50:06 16GB phusical? that's gotta include swap no? Sep 05 01:50:10 no Sep 05 01:50:11 Current System Configuration —I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n— Sep 05 01:50:11 Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate up for 2 days, 2 minutes 57 seconds Sep 05 01:50:11 CPU/RAM: Intel® Coreâ„¢2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz with Currently 3588 of 8191MB in use which is 43.8% Sep 05 01:50:11 Storage System: 74.53GB Internet Connection: n/a Sep 05 01:50:11 Display System: 512MB NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX+ using a Generic PnP monitor at 1680x1050 32bit color 59Hz refresh Sep 05 01:50:13 physical too Sep 05 01:50:13 physical ram Sep 05 01:50:21 wow Sep 05 01:50:31 rchp[linux] I'm surprised you don't have a GTX 580 or something in that awesome computer Sep 05 01:50:31 why so much? Sep 05 01:50:38 I dont game Sep 05 01:50:40 whats the use Sep 05 01:50:53 rchp[linux] just to be awesome Sep 05 01:50:58 j/k lol Sep 05 01:51:03 feel free to send me one Sep 05 01:51:04 if you don't need it, no point Sep 05 01:51:08 hey idk if u guysbsaw but earlier some guy came in here and posted a driver for the touchscreen....no1 was really on so no1 answered....i doubt its the driver but who knows.. Sep 05 01:51:16 its kinda useless Sep 05 01:51:22 if you fuck your ts flash Sep 05 01:51:25 we have no way back Sep 05 01:51:29 and im not willing to test Sep 05 01:51:32 Grim86-mobile: we have driver Sep 05 01:51:33 me neither Sep 05 01:51:39 ahh k lol Sep 05 01:51:41 i already got a semi fucked tab Sep 05 01:51:45 I watched The Last Samurai for like the 10th time Sep 05 01:51:48 that i ripped open last night Sep 05 01:51:49 emulator? Sep 05 01:52:04 ive been gone for like two days so didn't know :P Sep 05 01:52:21 Necrosan[c], you are welcome to send one of your $50 joins over. as a dev Sep 05 01:52:25 unit Sep 05 01:52:34 im thinking i need to send mine to HP Sep 05 01:52:37 its really fucked Sep 05 01:52:47 rhcp[linux]: how? Sep 05 01:52:49 rhcp[linux]: what'd you do? Sep 05 01:52:54 can you test in in a vm Sep 05 01:52:56 ive heard turn around time is like 50+ days Sep 05 01:53:05 somehow the home button got fucked Sep 05 01:53:08 i got the ADP on my tabs rhcp hehe ;) Sep 05 01:53:09 I SEMI fixed it Sep 05 01:53:25 but i broke some of the tabs that hole it in Sep 05 01:53:27 so its kinda loose Sep 05 01:53:32 haha Sep 05 01:53:34 dont even know if HP will repair it Sep 05 01:53:37 one of mine came with a broken camera Sep 05 01:53:39 tbh Sep 05 01:53:40 I hate plastic tabs :| Sep 05 01:53:57 sell it on ebay Sep 05 01:54:05 HP screwed up there with the 1.3mp camera Sep 05 01:54:07 then i have no dev unit Sep 05 01:54:08 rhcp[linux]: you still have warranty i think Sep 05 01:54:09 so 2006 Sep 05 01:54:11 btw: someone from this channel sent a moron to my best buy today asking for a touchpad Sep 05 01:54:15 rhcp[linux]: just send it back Sep 05 01:54:19 tusing, Even if i opened it up? Sep 05 01:54:21 i dont think so Sep 05 01:54:22 lol Sep 05 01:54:25 I back facing would be nice but I'll live Sep 05 01:54:29 sign it and sell it on ebay for $500 and buy a new one? Sep 05 01:54:41 LOL Sep 05 01:54:46 I could in theory i guess Sep 05 01:55:02 i mean it works Sep 05 01:55:12 just affraid to leave it as is. when HP runs out of parts and shit Sep 05 01:55:14 :/ Sep 05 01:55:35 i don't think they'll service it anyway Sep 05 01:55:39 nor i Sep 05 01:55:44 esp that i opened it up Sep 05 01:55:56 its quite visable that i did Sep 05 01:56:02 though i could claim i bought it like so Sep 05 01:56:25 doesn't matter the warranty would be void Sep 05 01:56:43 unless you sweet talked a rep Sep 05 01:56:56 i may send it to a buddy who works on hardware he said he could send it back in 1-3 days Sep 05 01:57:00 maybe even same day Sep 05 01:57:19 but shipping it blah Sep 05 01:57:29 yeah Sep 05 01:57:37 if i want to overnight Sep 05 01:57:40 its like 20 each way Sep 05 01:59:06 hp's kind of fucked right now anyway Sep 05 01:59:16 yea i got two units in SMB Sep 05 01:59:20 no deliever or tracking yet Sep 05 01:59:22 for week Sep 05 01:59:22 s Sep 05 01:59:25 dono wtf is up Sep 05 01:59:34 well you know why they're making another batch right? Sep 05 01:59:43 prob to cover orders Sep 05 01:59:48 not really Sep 05 01:59:57 rhcp[linux]: yes you still have warranty i think just call them to make sure Sep 05 02:00:04 i orderd like 16 Sep 05 02:00:14 they had parts on order to make 100,000 7" touchpad GOs Sep 05 02:00:30 2+1 got approved Sep 05 02:00:34 + i got one local Sep 05 02:01:22 rhcp[linux]: I bought 22298 touchpads Sep 05 02:01:34 im making a lot of money. Sep 05 02:01:49 well mine werent really for sale persay Sep 05 02:01:53 you probably didnt tusing Sep 05 02:01:55 more to give to devs at cost Sep 05 02:02:00 you're likely too poor to afford that many Sep 05 02:02:05 Necrosan[c]: Nom I swear I did! Sep 05 02:02:05 at some family members Sep 05 02:02:13 i've got 2 on order from cost central that haven't been cancelled yet Sep 05 02:02:15 and hp would offer a significant price discount for that quantity, too Sep 05 02:02:22 rhcp[linux]: Great :P nice of you Sep 05 02:02:36 rhcp[linux]: i sold the 29 i was able to grab from the local staples Sep 05 02:02:43 $300 apiece on craigslist Sep 05 02:02:45 to idiots like tusing Sep 05 02:02:53 shrug Sep 05 02:03:03 Necrosan[c]: No no no i swear i bought 22298 touchpads Sep 05 02:03:12 keep asking why android isnt ported :) Sep 05 02:03:27 i want to kick tusing in the fuckin mouth Sep 05 02:03:47 Necrosan[c]: You're probably too far away Sep 05 02:03:54 who bought and 29 touchpads? Sep 05 02:03:58 and sold* Sep 05 02:04:08 me Guest25228 Sep 05 02:04:19 i sold em to idiots that slept on the deal Sep 05 02:04:25 thats just wrong Sep 05 02:04:30 no its not Sep 05 02:04:37 yes it is Sep 05 02:04:38 all those retards that didnt order in time deserve it Sep 05 02:04:39 Necrosan[c], people like you. are what causes people like me and other devs. not able to get units Sep 05 02:04:40 fyi Sep 05 02:04:46 lol Sep 05 02:04:50 ppl like u should get shot. Sep 05 02:04:51 rofl Sep 05 02:04:54 i mean im your nigga Sep 05 02:04:55 but Sep 05 02:04:59 im keeping it real Sep 05 02:05:03 I made 20 orders Sep 05 02:05:07 18 back ordered Sep 05 02:05:14 yeah dude its cool rhcp... i just needed to make some money Sep 05 02:05:15 I wanted 3, got 2, meh its ok Sep 05 02:05:28 I walked into wallmart and bought one, if I had the cash I would have bought more and then sold to the dev's at cost. Sep 05 02:05:30 so i could buy this new rolex Sep 05 02:05:41 are there any devs around here? Sep 05 02:05:49 lots Sep 05 02:06:01 Guest25228: i actually bought the devs out Sep 05 02:06:06 i took my money and paid them to stop Sep 05 02:06:07 is there a working port for android out there? I mean does any1 know of 1? Sep 05 02:06:10 many of which are working without units Sep 05 02:06:13 that i made from my illicit touchpad sales Sep 05 02:06:44 I saw that som1 put a touchpad for sale on ebay for 310 that allegedly ran android, was that true? Sep 05 02:06:45 Guest25228: ill pay you to read the topic Sep 05 02:07:04 I know this nigerian prince whos selling touchpads in exchange for a flight to america Sep 05 02:07:28 Necrosan I have read the thread, and am full aware of the progress Sep 05 02:08:04 was just wondering if any1 had seen one running android Sep 05 02:08:17 its quite easy to run that dump Sep 05 02:08:22 but im not going to release anything Sep 05 02:08:38 this guy at best buy today Sep 05 02:08:53 whyyyyyyy! Sep 05 02:08:54 talked to me for like 30 min on how his buddy flashed android onto his touchpad Sep 05 02:09:02 and i was just wondering if it really is possible Sep 05 02:09:17 do you normally trust what people say at best buy? Sep 05 02:09:24 nop Sep 05 02:09:30 there's your answer Sep 05 02:09:40 lol @ bestbuy Sep 05 02:09:44 don't Sep 05 02:09:51 everyone that works for best buy is a moron Sep 05 02:09:53 it was an employee too rofl Sep 05 02:09:57 take it from me, geek squad. Sep 05 02:09:58 lol Sep 05 02:10:01 i almost worked for best buy once Sep 05 02:10:10 i do work at best buy, and it's driving me insane Sep 05 02:10:11 I walked in and asked for a Zalman CPU Cooler and the tech a the Geek Squad desk told me they had coolers over in appliances... Sep 05 02:10:11 (I was part of geek squad too) Sep 05 02:10:26 http://digg.com/news/offbeat/asdfmovie4_wow_wtf_omg_video throw the cheese! Sep 05 02:10:33 i asked a geek squad guy if he could update a BIOS on a laptop today and he asked what a BIOS was Sep 05 02:10:44 I told him he needed to quit his job and go work at McDonalds Sep 05 02:10:50 full working build of android [HPTP CM7-C0D3M4K3R5] http://goo.gl/gHmGl Sep 05 02:10:50 Guest25228, prolly should have kept that last bit to yourself Sep 05 02:11:05 rofl Sep 05 02:11:11 you guys are spending way too much time in best buy .. :) Sep 05 02:11:12 i started to say "it's the firmware for the motherboard...you press F2 or delet--NEVERMIND YOU F**KING IDIOT" Sep 05 02:11:20 I work there! Sep 05 02:11:22 :( Sep 05 02:11:23 lol Sep 05 02:11:24 $21 an hour to fix computers.. Sep 05 02:11:28 where Sep 05 02:11:30 sign me up Sep 05 02:11:31 lol Sep 05 02:11:37 $11/hour here :( Sep 05 02:11:40 that was back when I worked Sep 05 02:11:42 well Sep 05 02:11:45 that sucks Sep 05 02:11:50 yeah Sep 05 02:11:59 I only do the computer setups and fix stuff when i get bored Sep 05 02:12:00 lol Sep 05 02:12:11 learn to code and $21/hr would be getting underpaid Sep 05 02:12:20 no patience Sep 05 02:12:21 sounds like an easy relaxing job Sep 05 02:12:23 Im making 16/hr on average here Sep 05 02:12:25 caffeine puts me to sleep :P Sep 05 02:12:43 I can code too.. Sep 05 02:12:53 and i get paid to just sit on the internet and fix servers which rarely ever break Sep 05 02:12:58 hahaha Sep 05 02:13:02 I toyed around with VB6 way back when it was new Sep 05 02:13:10 sooo... since you work in best buy... you think you can get rhcp a pad? Sep 05 02:13:18 no. Sep 05 02:13:26 xust-home, i remember when vb3 was new, heh Sep 05 02:13:26 i think ive spent more time on this project then actual work and got paid the whole time lol Sep 05 02:13:31 if i had money, maybe Sep 05 02:13:41 lol Sep 05 02:13:43 I need to pull about $900 out of my arse this month Sep 05 02:13:44 fnj Sep 05 02:13:45 xust-home, im not asking for a donation Sep 05 02:13:47 ill pay Sep 05 02:13:48 $900 extra...more than usual :| Sep 05 02:13:59 how many hours combined u think this entire project will take of u guys work? Sep 05 02:14:01 anything but a demo model i take it? Sep 05 02:14:02 just a ball park Sep 05 02:14:13 a billion Sep 05 02:14:23 xust-home, Looking for 16G models at 99 or cheaper Sep 05 02:14:26 over 9000 hours Guest25228 Sep 05 02:14:26 with employee discount Sep 05 02:14:33 i don't get a discount haha Sep 05 02:14:36 and thats a 5 man team right? Sep 05 02:14:45 then at cost 99 Sep 05 02:14:46 you're crazy if you think i could get a touchpad for under $99 Sep 05 02:14:48 + shipping Sep 05 02:14:53 I got a 32G for 75 bucks Sep 05 02:14:56 from a BB employee Sep 05 02:15:09 i don't have the money to spend in the first place Sep 05 02:15:14 CC Sep 05 02:15:19 nobody will give me one Sep 05 02:15:23 you will be payed back Sep 05 02:15:24 on a good day around 4-5, im just a internal tester / site dev / video guy Sep 05 02:15:30 i had to buy a car to build credit Sep 05 02:15:43 oh well! Sep 05 02:15:45 man oh man that is a lot of work, I really admire all you guys Sep 05 02:16:00 capital one offers in the mail every other day. call and try to take them up on one and they reject me Sep 05 02:16:07 for not having any credit history..of course not Sep 05 02:16:08 It was worth a shot Sep 05 02:16:09 lol Sep 05 02:16:15 i should /nick hey/imusingwindows Sep 05 02:16:17 yeah I'd imagine ther is easily a few thousand hours of work to get a polished product Sep 05 02:16:37 no $500 limit on a 20% interest card, but i went out and got a $20k car... Sep 05 02:16:59 xust-home, Can i use my cc at your store remote? Sep 05 02:17:00 its because a car loan is secured Sep 05 02:17:09 i can use amex black or biz plat? Sep 05 02:17:09 and credit card is unsecured credit Sep 05 02:17:11 yeah, they can take the car back :) Sep 05 02:17:17 yep.. big diff between secured and unsecured Sep 05 02:17:18 its easier to get a secured loan then unsecured Sep 05 02:17:22 amex black! Sep 05 02:17:24 i don't know Sep 05 02:17:26 not in sales Sep 05 02:17:35 i have amex black personal and biz plat Sep 05 02:17:44 i don't even have access to cash registers lol Sep 05 02:17:44 * cypher worships rchp Sep 05 02:17:49 shrug Sep 05 02:17:51 which is WONDERFUL on weekends. people leave me alone :D Sep 05 02:17:53 got it via biz deals Sep 05 02:18:00 paid for stuff on my card Sep 05 02:18:13 now its just annual fees Sep 05 02:18:54 Its still cool.. has to be nice in bars when your buying a chick a drink Sep 05 02:19:11 im married Sep 05 02:20:14 Oh well.. lol. I am married too but I would still try it to see their reaction lol Sep 05 02:20:42 I already know the reaction Sep 05 02:20:45 they think its fake Sep 05 02:20:57 Heh. Sep 05 02:21:15 the new one is made out of some sort of metal Sep 05 02:21:19 its quite heavy Sep 05 02:21:24 I already know the reaction <-- nice, lol Sep 05 02:21:40 chicks in bars? Sep 05 02:21:42 * xust-home has been single for 365wks 3days 5hrs 16mins 47secs (7 years) Sep 05 02:21:44 :( Sep 05 02:22:05 lol Sep 05 02:22:07 tmi Sep 05 02:22:56 rchp: Sweet... I bet its molybdenum Sep 05 02:22:59 No matter what they say xust, that white and black new beattle is not a chick magnet. Sep 05 02:23:32 everyone says i'm too picky Sep 05 02:23:42 i like white chicks, and i don't know where they all are Sep 05 02:23:48 lol Sep 05 02:24:02 xust-home, you have one of the (new) new beetles? Sep 05 02:24:03 i'm serious Sep 05 02:24:06 no Sep 05 02:24:10 i have a ford focus haha Sep 05 02:24:29 black 2009 Focus SES coupe. it's alright Sep 05 02:24:38 oh, heh, i think the (new) new beetles are cool Sep 05 02:24:47 i get "nice car" from all the high school chicks working in drive thru lines when i go out of town Sep 05 02:24:51 better than my car... I have a #4 train Sep 05 02:25:05 lol Sep 05 02:25:11 use the #6 ;p Sep 05 02:25:27 #6 sometimes.. :) Sep 05 02:25:41 You must live in the UES Sep 05 02:25:55 2002 chevy venture, 9" LCD mounted in the dash hooked up to a Intel Atom x2 1.6 with 160GB, 15" ceiling mounted lcd in the back, stock speakers Sep 05 02:26:05 i got to yankee games ;p Sep 05 02:26:09 go* Sep 05 02:26:33 i have a carpc too Sep 05 02:26:43 centrafuse? Sep 05 02:26:50 nah i just use foobar2k Sep 05 02:27:00 http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/01/focuscoupe_main_opt.jpg Sep 05 02:27:13 just like that, but black with tinted windows lol Sep 05 02:27:16 im waiting for openmobile to get a bit more mature Sep 05 02:27:21 i got a focus too...shitty 2003 model Sep 05 02:27:24 i needs a new one Sep 05 02:27:37 oh lookie Sep 05 02:27:40 im not guest anymore Sep 05 02:28:01 (guest123) oh lookie Sep 05 02:28:07 (guest123) im not guest anymore Sep 05 02:28:25 but i have a lil 2.8ghz 45nm c2d, 64gb sandforce ssd for os and 500gb laptop disk for media, touchscreen up front, usb gps, usb fm, 500mW wifi card, etc Sep 05 02:29:19 i used to rock a pentium m 1.5ghz, but that was a long time ago Sep 05 02:29:32 the first gen focus was garbage Sep 05 02:29:36 so unreliable lol Sep 05 02:29:42 I use to rock a 68000 Sep 05 02:29:45 everyone i know that had one had so many problems with the strangest things Sep 05 02:29:49 16 mhz Sep 05 02:29:59 im talking in the car, heh Sep 05 02:30:10 :O Sep 05 02:30:12 :( Sep 05 02:30:34 if you actualy had a 68k in the car, that woul;d have been pretty cool. too slow to even play mp3 though Sep 05 02:31:22 I wish I had a car... car in NYC is really just a hassle Sep 05 02:31:24 I used to rock a xbox1 in my pontiac sunfire Sep 05 02:31:30 i remember i had a 486dx4 120mhz laptop that would play mp3's ONLY if i set it to 8-bit and didnt move the mouse, or it would skip, lol Sep 05 02:31:43 that was with winplay3, heh Sep 05 02:32:03 (if anyone remembers winplay3) Sep 05 02:32:31 I rememeber when playing ANY song on your computer was a miracle Sep 05 02:33:04 used to take a full day to rip an album to mp3 lol Sep 05 02:33:49 yeah, the slowest computer I ever had that was actually mine was a 8mhz 286 with 1mb of ram Sep 05 02:34:10 but only 640K where usable Sep 05 02:34:26 nah I had windows 3.0 Sep 05 02:35:11 Nice Sep 05 02:35:20 <[koss]> XT with 640k of ram..8mhz i think? or 4 not sure Sep 05 02:35:22 <[koss]> CGA monitor Sep 05 02:35:23 good ol days of futzing with config.sys Sep 05 02:35:50 mhm Sep 05 02:36:00 <[koss]> didnt need memory management with only 640k Sep 05 02:36:01 Mine was an Apple IIC with 128K ram and 68020 Sep 05 02:36:13 so when you guys transfer stuff to the touchpad Sep 05 02:36:17 what speeds do you get? Sep 05 02:36:24 mine seems to be dead set at 5mb/sec Sep 05 02:36:30 <[koss]> > accoustic coupler speed Sep 05 02:36:36 thats about the fastest I have seen Sep 05 02:36:50 crap took 20 mins to copy 3 gig of music Sep 05 02:36:50 300 baud, lol Sep 05 02:36:58 <[koss]> lol Sep 05 02:37:01 <[koss]> Xmodem Sep 05 02:37:25 at strings I remember those Sep 05 02:37:35 can you copy to tp over wifi? Sep 05 02:37:36 <[koss]> ATDT911 Sep 05 02:37:40 i remember when my buddies and I had 14.4 modems, one of our friends' dad ran an ISP, they had a T1 to their house Sep 05 02:37:54 ebswift, yes but its not trivial Sep 05 02:38:02 The spacecraft that has made it the furthest from earth sends data back at 160baud rate Sep 05 02:38:06 I used to run a bbs Sep 05 02:38:16 <[koss]> ditto Sep 05 02:38:23 <[koss]> i was SysOp of a few, and had my own Sep 05 02:38:25 I ran a bbs too! Sep 05 02:38:26 i never ran one Sep 05 02:38:28 renegade Sep 05 02:38:32 but i was on a few Sep 05 02:38:33 as have i Sep 05 02:38:50 <[koss]> BBS's were cool, almost everyone was local Sep 05 02:38:51 <[koss]> ;) Sep 05 02:38:56 I remember Pirating software was a missdomeaner... so people went to town Sep 05 02:39:14 cypher, voyager 1 Sep 05 02:39:20 yea extide Sep 05 02:39:29 first pr0n downloads from them lol Sep 05 02:39:32 still works too Sep 05 02:39:50 good RSS reader for tp? Sep 05 02:39:53 it just goes to show you can do alot with 160 baud.. lol Sep 05 02:40:01 yup Sep 05 02:40:21 ah yes something I would like to ask you guys Sep 05 02:40:32 any1 know a good app to record like handwritten notes? Sep 05 02:40:53 for webOS I assume? Sep 05 02:41:20 <[koss]> i'd like to forget webOS ASAP, feel like its wasting what little space i have in my brain Sep 05 02:41:35 <[koss]> i should forget my touchpad exists until android Sep 05 02:41:51 * [koss] moves back to nook color Sep 05 02:41:54 Its full as hell to tinker it though Sep 05 02:41:55 why? Sep 05 02:42:01 the tp is fine as it is with webos Sep 05 02:42:10 it's no android, but it's also not a crappy tablet Sep 05 02:42:11 for droid there's sketchbook more artsy tho Sep 05 02:42:29 <[koss]> yeah i constantly find myself trying to figure out how to do (insert whatever i already know how to do in android) in webOS Sep 05 02:42:32 <[koss]> and its like Sep 05 02:42:41 well..... Sep 05 02:42:42 <[koss]> webos is slick but i dont care Sep 05 02:42:45 it's like using a mac and a pc Sep 05 02:42:47 <[koss]> theres no damn apps Sep 05 02:42:53 things are done slightly differently Sep 05 02:43:01 and i agree... webOS has a terrible app base Sep 05 02:43:11 and most of their apps are still unpolished Sep 05 02:43:27 only thing so far I like on this tp is this irc client Sep 05 02:43:43 yeah i really like webos actually but the lack of apps does suck Sep 05 02:43:45 <[koss]> gimmie an irc client with DCC Sep 05 02:43:48 <[koss]> then ill be impressed Sep 05 02:44:02 the only problem is that webOS never had the exposure or interest as much as iOS or android did Sep 05 02:44:16 if it had better exposure, it would've been pretty decent Sep 05 02:44:38 my concern is screen resolution on an android port with apps Sep 05 02:45:17 that... Sep 05 02:45:21 is dependent on the app itself Sep 05 02:45:28 <[koss]> when i got my first android phone, android wasnt that far ahead of webos really Sep 05 02:45:35 if it's not made for tablets.. it'll simply be played in teh small screen Sep 05 02:45:42 but android had alot of support Sep 05 02:45:59 <[koss]> palm took too long Sep 05 02:46:07 <[koss]> they had a big base Sep 05 02:46:09 they never really fought to be recognized Sep 05 02:46:09 <[koss]> with treos Sep 05 02:46:36 hopefully it'll box it if its 16:9 format Sep 05 02:47:21 that depends on your app Sep 05 02:47:23 not stretch it to fit 4:3 Sep 05 02:47:33 true Sep 05 02:47:34 some video player apps does it for you automatically Sep 05 02:47:42 some dont. and some lets you toggle Sep 05 02:48:46 you guys chat about all-around droid development? or just the port? Sep 05 02:49:11 this channel is technically for the devs to talk about TD development Sep 05 02:49:18 but i think it's kinda on a chill atm Sep 05 02:49:31 i think the devs are taking a rest.. and besides.. it's labor day weekend :P Sep 05 02:49:51 I'm ready for that damn touchscreen to be working Sep 05 02:50:18 heard they got single touch working somewhere maybe rumor Sep 05 02:50:31 we all are. but dont forget, this work is done for free, so it's a privildge, not a right to get updates from them :) Sep 05 02:50:42 this is the internet Sep 05 02:50:46 team CM got single touch working, but that's about it Sep 05 02:51:01 if they don't release this second someone will kill a kitten Sep 05 02:51:23 the internet is always filled with self entitled noobs :P Sep 05 02:51:44 <[koss]> im sure theres no wifi, bluetooth, etc etc Sep 05 02:51:48 <[koss]> so its still pointless Sep 05 02:51:49 it's also filled with boobs too Sep 05 02:52:03 <[koss]> well yeah the internet IS for porn Sep 05 02:52:05 that's 80% of the internet Sep 05 02:52:11 <[koss]> touchpads are for porn Sep 05 02:52:11 big fucking bombs Sep 05 02:52:22 i think social media passed porn traffic this year Sep 05 02:52:23 <[koss]> why ya think they're called touchpads Sep 05 02:52:33 so the internet is for facebook then porn Sep 05 02:52:34 <[koss]> social media is for porn Sep 05 02:52:35 lol Sep 05 02:52:44 <[koss]> or gettin laid Sep 05 02:52:48 <[koss]> almost same thing ;) Sep 05 02:52:59 facebook is adult friend finder when you're drunk **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Sep 05 02:59:57 2011