**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jan 09 02:59:57 2010 Jan 09 16:39:07 hello .. Jan 09 16:47:12 I'm testing jaunty on new board ( omap3 / kernel 2.6.31 ) .. base system is ok but I can't install xserver : dpkg always return error when unpack 'hal' Jan 09 16:47:22 (sorry for my poor english) Jan 09 16:48:31 ADcomp: why jaunty? Karmic will run fine on it too. Jan 09 16:50:45 karmic doesn't work (yet) for me .. Jan 09 16:50:59 but jaunty works fine so .. Jan 09 16:51:15 ADcomp, what doesn't work? package requirement? or Kernel? Jan 09 16:51:30 karmic rootstock comes up all the way to gdm login for me without modifications, running on various omap platforms (3530, 3630, 4430) Jan 09 16:51:39 with a mainline or TI kernel... Jan 09 16:52:25 I don't know .. I just receive this board. just trying what it's working "out-of-the-box" Jan 09 16:53:29 btw , I'm not a guru on embedded system .. Jan 09 16:54:03 ADcomp, for reference, what board is it? Jan 09 16:54:43 http://www.technexion.com/index.php/thunderpack Jan 09 16:57:16 it's like a beagleboard with rj45/wifi + 4.3 touchscreen Jan 09 16:58:11 ADcomp, did they supply an SD card with Jaunty on it? Jan 09 16:58:22 no .. Jan 09 16:59:11 what dpkg error comes up? Jan 09 16:59:51 but you can download "angstrom" and kernel on technexion 'open' web : http://www.technexion.org/ Jan 09 17:01:04 E: sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) Jan 09 17:01:26 when "--unpack" Jan 09 17:02:38 sounds like just a broken jaunty package... It's safe to take the kernel and modules (lib/modules) from their Angstrom download and dump it into a Karmic rootfs... Jan 09 17:03:29 I already do it Jan 09 17:07:43 karmic run well ? with X and 128M ram ? Jan 09 17:08:24 I do some others tests this w-e with rootstock .. Jan 09 17:08:25 ADcomp, it's also compiled with 'armv6' vs jaunty's 'armv5'... Jan 09 17:09:35 but xfce4 is faster with karmic on my old beagle b5 (128mb) then jaunty.. Jan 09 17:10:15 ok .. good to know that :) Jan 09 17:10:51 just make sure you setup a swap partition, once you start opening a bunch of gui apps that ram is going to dissappear.. Jan 09 17:12:19 size ? 128M ? Jan 09 17:13:00 it depends on your SD card size, but atleast 2xRam size as a ball park.. Jan 09 17:14:48 ok.. I have a 2G but I buy a new one 4G today :) Jan 09 17:17:13 maybe when all work fine , I can write something about this board ( config , hardware , .. ) on ubuntu wiki ? Jan 09 17:19:56 they have this one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/DeviceSupport but i just maintain http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu since the beagleboard stuff has always been on elinux.org.. Jan 09 17:22:51 so thank you .. because I use this one for testing ubuntu on my board :) Jan 09 17:26:40 your welcome, btw i was very close to picking up that board too.. if you do get a working kernel build defconfig, i'm am interested in adding more omap board support to https://code.launchpad.net/~beagleboard-kernel/+junk/2.6-dev since you can share one defconfig with multiple omap boards... Jan 09 17:31:02 I downloaded kernel source + config from http://www.technexion.org/ Jan 09 17:33:49 config for 2.6.31 .. http://paste.ubuntu.com/354030/ Jan 09 17:38:50 does the kernel have any patches? or just mainline 2.6.31 Jan 09 17:43:23 patches .. http://paste.ubuntu.com/354034/ Jan 09 17:43:38 this diff should make my 2.6-stable tree work: http://pastebin.com/f60903eb6 Jan 09 17:45:18 ok .. I have to go. Jan 09 17:45:39 but thanks for your time .. I 'll be back :) Jan 09 17:45:51 looks like they used angstrom's 2.6.31 as a base, thats what i'm using too.. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~beagleboard-kernel/%2Bjunk/2.6-stable/annotate/head%3A/patch.sh Jan 09 17:46:35 ADcomp, download tihs branch: bzr branch lp:~beagleboard-kernel/+junk/2.6-stable and apply that diff, you should get a good kernel for the technexion.org Jan 09 17:46:52 yes .. looks like all things ( system/kernel/board ) is pretty close to beagleboard Jan 09 17:47:28 if it works, commit the change noting enable OMAP3_THUNDER support, and it'll have a *.deb on rcn-ee.net.. for easy rootstock installs.. Jan 09 17:47:55 ok .. downloading .. Jan 09 17:48:36 the script only needs a valid Cross Compiler setup in system.sh... it'll warn you... Jan 09 17:48:59 ok .. I'm late .. but I give you more feedback soon .. Jan 09 17:49:03 bye Jan 09 19:23:14 I'm using the rootstock (great stuff!) to create an Ubuntu image for the Always Innovating Touch Book Jan 09 19:23:16 http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu Jan 09 19:23:46 I've slightly modified the rootstock script to add a postprocess step before roll_tarball to do a few additional customizations Jan 09 19:24:23 now I would like also to run a script in qemu before it's umounted (I would like to compile some stuff specific to my image) Jan 09 19:24:50 how could I modify again the rootstock file so that a postprocess script is run at the end of the qemu story? Jan 09 19:31:14 hey gregoiregentil, you work at alwaysinnovating right? looking at your mod script, we could take care of the module problem by using --kernel-image and generating a deb, what patches do you need for 2.6.31? (i've moved off 2.6.29) Jan 09 19:31:47 hello, yes, correct, I'm the founder Jan 09 19:32:11 for the module, yes, but my kernel is a little bit special as it's handling the whole TB and I have a few specific module Jan 09 19:32:24 like the 3D stuff, the video acceleration to support OMAP DSP and so on Jan 09 19:32:54 Yeap, sgx works.. ;) Jan 09 19:33:24 so there are many patches ;-) http://git.alwaysinnovating.com/cgit.cgi/ai.openembedded.dev/tree/recipes/linux/linux-omap_2.6.29.bb Jan 09 19:33:45 yeap, just loading it up again in firefox Jan 09 19:34:06 BTW, rootstock is great work. I have already a good working Ubuntu image on the TOuch Book Jan 09 19:34:42 just need to have a few more stuff, and it will be almost at the same level to my super-optimized OpenEmbedded image (still better compilation flag but Lucid will catch up) Jan 09 19:34:58 yeah it is. (can't take credit for it, it's Oliver's work) i just added enough support to make it work with the beagleboard and my debian and ubuntu *.deb Jan 09 19:39:12 in rootstock src, about line 646 ${KERNEL_IMAGE_CMD} you could add your script changes.. Ubuntu System User|Always Innovating can be changed with a command line option Jan 09 19:40:00 -n --fullname : --fullname "Always Innovating" Jan 09 19:40:09 OK. Thanks for the feed-back. I'm appreciate. Let me take a look now Jan 09 19:42:13 line 620 echo "deb ${MIRROR} ${DIST} ${COMPONENTS}" >/etc/apt/sources.list is where you could add the deb-src line next.. i keep forgeting to email oliver on a patch to add karmic-updates Jan 09 19:42:30 like i did here: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#Karmic:_.289.10.29_boot_fixup Jan 09 19:43:44 rcn-ee: cool. I'm integrating ;-) Jan 09 19:47:41 rcn-ee: so all the stuff around line 630, it's executed inside qemu? Jan 09 19:47:56 Got you for ${KERNEL_IMAGE_CMD} Jan 09 19:48:07 yup, exactly the place I want to add my stuff! Jan 09 19:49:11 gregoiregentil, yeap that qemu in there up till about 661.. that spot where KERNEL_IMAGE_CMD seem safest, as after that things start finishing.. Jan 09 19:49:23 yup Jan 09 19:50:21 gregoiregentil, have you had good luck with dspbridge? I've just started recently looking into it for my kernels (going the oposite route of angstrom and their dsplink) Other wise everything else could go in my 2.6-stable branch, then you'd have a normal deb install file.. Jan 09 19:50:41 On ubuntu, not yet Jan 09 19:51:03 on my OpenEmbedded Always Innovating OS, I have both dspbridge and dsplink... Jan 09 19:51:28 http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/wiki/index.php/DSP_video Jan 09 19:52:01 ah cool.. Yeah just yeasterday i got the dsp-gst tree to build, but haven't tested all 3 parts together yet (dspbridge module, dspbridge userspace and dsp-gst gstreamer stuff) Jan 09 19:54:09 rcn-ee, you should subscribe to the gst-dsp google newsgroups Jan 09 19:54:20 Felipe is very active and answer all questions Jan 09 19:54:48 also, there are a couple of overlay OE (mine and another one) with all the recipes to compile everything. That may be useful to take look if you don't manage to do something Jan 09 19:54:50 cool didn't know, i've been following his blog, will add it to my email Jan 09 19:58:06 about the only thing i'm missing is the dsp stuff, then ubuntu would be feature complete with angstrom. On the Kernel side i usually test changes against my tree and openembedded so that's usually in sync.. i just moved to 2.6.31 so i didn't have the omap3-touchbook patches anymore.. Jan 09 19:59:45 btw is there anything special about xorg/modules/drivers/fbdev_drv.so in your script? Jan 09 20:00:49 i think it's the omapfb driver, it got pulled in from debian, it might not be as up to date as openembedded but... https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xf86-video-omapfb/0.1.1-2 Jan 09 20:01:20 add : xserver-xorg-video-omap3 to your seed for rootstock.. Jan 09 20:01:36 Very long story about fbdev (long story with Koen) Jan 09 20:01:48 Koen has always prefered omapfb driver while I stick with fbdev Jan 09 20:02:10 so you have a kind of two branches. I have ported the xrandr to fbdev Jan 09 20:02:26 as I wanted to have a very good rotation support in fbdev. It's well optimized Jan 09 20:02:38 then I have for video some mplayer patches to write directly to fb1 Jan 09 20:02:46 ahh, that explains it... Jan 09 20:02:58 those rotation patches have never been published (yet) but the mplayer stuff is in git and Koen has integrated it Jan 09 20:04:23 sounds cool... I hardly plug my beagle into an lcd, so i just point users to use omapfb.. but with your touchbook design a good visual experience is key Jan 09 20:05:08 yup! Jan 09 20:08:25 gregoiregentil: where is fbdev with xrandr? Jan 09 20:09:28 suihkulokki: I have never published yet. It's on the todo list Jan 09 20:20:09 gregoiregentil: I was just bemoaning the lack of xrandr in omapfb, but one in fbdev would do as well Jan 09 20:21:18 suihkulokki: Yup. very long story with Koen about this. Ideally, it would be better to ahve something really optimized in omapfb Jan 09 20:21:30 Koen told me that there is a Stanford guy who is working on it Jan 09 20:40:21 gregoiregentil, rcn-ee: I just added a --script (untested) in this patch http://paste.ubuntu.com/354096/ which I just pushed at lp:~lool/project-rootstock/user-script if that's useful I'll propose it for merging in tip Jan 09 20:41:05 yup. Definitely makes sense to me Jan 09 20:42:32 Ok, proposed for merging Jan 09 20:42:40 gregoiregentil: hy BTW Jan 09 20:42:44 *hey Jan 09 20:43:11 lool: Hello Jan 09 20:43:22 gregoiregentil: I've seen a netbook with detachable screen in the CES coverage, but I don't think i was branded always-innovating; is this a derived product? Jan 09 20:43:33 lool, that would be very useful, there's a couple things i have beagleboard users do to tweak the final rootfs... Jan 09 20:43:46 (that are too beagleboardish to be generic for all users) Jan 09 20:43:46 Not a derived product... I would say a copied product! Jan 09 20:44:11 Ok; that's what I guessed Jan 09 20:47:57 lool, ogra: at what point do you guys what lucid tweaks for rootstock to enable lucid? Jan 09 20:50:01 lool: well, i would say that you mean the freescale reference netbook...but i guess its built by pegatron Jan 09 20:50:05 you should know it :P Jan 09 20:52:36 also there is the marvell smartbook Jan 09 20:52:39 rcn-ee: I didn't understand the question Jan 09 20:52:44 which was running ubuntu Jan 09 20:53:00 armin76: I actually did not! Jan 09 20:53:54 I only saw that netbook with removable screen like the AI one on TV for a split second and it looked too different from the AI one, hence my wonders Jan 09 20:54:23 lool, since lucid is only at alpha-1/2 i was holding this back: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~beagleboard-kernel/+junk/project-rootstock-lucid/revision/31 Jan 09 20:54:48 lool: http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/freescale-smartbook-prototype-is-a-dockable-tablet-we-go-hands/ Jan 09 20:55:16 http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/05/marvell-shows-off-an-odm-smartbook-thinner-than-strict-decency-p/ Jan 09 20:59:37 rcn-ee: IMO no reason to hold this back Jan 09 20:59:56 rcn-ee: I'm rewriting this a bit, following the diff you showed me; thanks Jan 09 21:00:56 cool, i was holding it back since fakeroot 'was' broken since i couldn't generate a deb for lucid, but as of this morning it works.. Jan 09 21:02:02 rcn-ee: Mind taking a look at http://code.launchpad.net/~lool/project-rootstock/lucid-support ? Jan 09 21:02:19 rcn-ee: Ack; just saw a bug coment that it's fixed Jan 09 21:03:06 rcn-ee: Sorry, not wasy to see a branch I just pushed Jan 09 21:03:49 rcn-ee: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lool/project-rootstock/lucid-support/changes Jan 09 21:04:19 lool, it looks like it's loading, btw is the bazzar web server always that slow? i'm use to it with pushing my beagleboard-kernel stuff. Jan 09 21:05:25 rcn-ee: I rarely use the bzr web ui, but I don't think it's supposed to be slow once he branch has been scanned Jan 09 21:06:01 rcn-ee: the launchpad web frontend is a tad slow due to SSL, lots of database queries, and various inefficiencies, but bazaar should be faster Jan 09 21:06:18 lool, changes look good, the only odd case is jaunty as lucid/karmic share the same path... Jan 09 21:06:35 lool, that make sense, i just got to stop watching my changes hit the web.. ;) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jan 10 02:59:56 2010