**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 28 02:59:56 2010
Jan 28 08:31:13 <neure> hi
Jan 28 08:31:25 <neure> is asm("bkpt"); a good way to cause breakpoint in code?
Jan 28 10:59:07 <asac> o/
Jan 28 10:59:25 <asac> cant believe that my auto joining works again ;)
Jan 28 10:59:30 <asac> even on +R channels
Jan 28 10:59:53 <asac> seems i sent "ident" to nickserv which it doesnt like anymore
Jan 28 11:05:13 <ogra> well, dont reconnect in a way that you get an underscore on your nick
Jan 28 11:05:19 <ogra> thats overly annoying
Jan 28 12:07:56 <asac> attached filtered debdiff for gvfs update (re bug 512959)
Jan 28 12:07:57 <ubot4> Launchpad bug 512959 in gvfs "nautilus assert failure: *** stack smashing detected ***: nautilus terminated" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/512959
Jan 28 12:19:01 <dmart> asac: Hi there; unfortunately I had an overrunning meeting, but I'm available now.
Jan 28 12:19:08 <asac> dmart: hi
Jan 28 12:19:11 <asac> cool
Jan 28 12:19:29 <asac> so i started to file bugs ;)
Jan 28 12:19:31 <asac> for main
Jan 28 12:19:42 <asac> added the numbers to the status col
Jan 28 12:19:44 <asac> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Thumb2PackageReviewList
Jan 28 12:20:03 <asac> i am done to gmp
Jan 28 12:20:05 <dmart> Looks good
Jan 28 12:20:38 * asac wonders if there is a shorthand syntax for lp bugs in the wiki
Jan 28 12:20:56 <asac> i didnt subscribe you to those bugs as you are member of ubuntu-armel i figured
Jan 28 12:22:17 <ogra> asac, i think there is, but i cant remember the syntax, i know persia usually does :)
Jan 28 12:23:07 <asac> universe are so many packages :(
Jan 28 12:23:17 <dmart> dunno... I shoved it though sed... refresh the page
Jan 28 12:23:17 <ogra> yeah
Jan 28 12:23:23 <asac> anyway. getting the logs now
Jan 28 12:23:42 <dmart> I was seeing a lot of false-positives, so it may be relatively quick
Jan 28 12:23:47 <asac> great
Jan 28 12:25:41 <asac> ok got the logs ... (thx wiki) ... now geting a new coffee and then we can lift off ;)
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Jan 28 12:31:57 <asac> ok after not visiting that page lets get started ;)
Jan 28 12:32:24 <asac> cacao
Jan 28 12:32:56 <asac> needs a check (by doko)
Jan 28 12:33:25 <dmart> Yes.  I'm not sure why this appears separately from cacao-source; I guess it's basically the same issues
Jan 28 12:33:29 <asac> uses atomics and mov in various places
Jan 28 12:33:48 <asac> cdecl
Jan 28 12:33:55 <asac> false+
Jan 28 12:34:16 <asac> cell-binutils
Jan 28 12:36:01 <asac> wonders what that is
Jan 28 12:36:06 <asac> guess needs to be checked
Jan 28 12:36:16 <asac> various hits ... not obvious what is used where and how
Jan 28 12:36:45 <asac> hmm. where is that?
Jan 28 12:36:48 <asac> i cant even find the source
Jan 28 12:36:58 <asac> !info cell-binutils
Jan 28 12:36:59 <ogra> thats for PS3
Jan 28 12:37:03 <ubot4> asac: Package cell-binutils does not exist in karmic
Jan 28 12:37:11 <ogra> nothing for arm anyway
Jan 28 12:37:14 <asac> !source cell-binutils
Jan 28 12:37:14 <ubot4> asac: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
Jan 28 12:37:25 <asac> ogra: there are files name "arm" in the source at least
Jan 28 12:37:26 <asac> but ok
Jan 28 12:37:33 <asac> if you say its ps3 then its ok
Jan 28 12:37:48 <ogra> well, its for the cell CPU, but i bet derived from nowmal binutils
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Jan 28 12:38:00 <asac> i guess same is true for other cell-*
Jan 28 12:38:08 <asac> like cell-gcc cell-gdb etc.
Jan 28 12:38:08 <ogra> likely
Jan 28 12:38:09 <asac> ogra: ?
Jan 28 12:38:15 <asac> "info cell-gcc
Jan 28 12:38:18 <asac> !info cell-gcc
Jan 28 12:38:18 <ubot4> asac: Package cell-gcc does not exist in karmic
Jan 28 12:38:21 <ogra> heh
Jan 28 12:38:27 <asac> !source cell-gcc
Jan 28 12:38:27 <ubot4> Factoid 'source cell-gcc' not found
Jan 28 12:38:31 <asac> damn bot ;)
Jan 28 12:38:31 <ogra> i think the bot only knows x86 anyway
Jan 28 12:38:42 <asac> !apt cell-gcc
Jan 28 12:38:43 <ubot4> Factoid 'apt cell-gcc' not found
Jan 28 12:38:50 <ogra> !info uboot-imx
Jan 28 12:38:50 <ubot4> ogra: Package uboot-imx does not exist in karmic
Jan 28 12:38:53 <ogra> see
Jan 28 12:38:54 <asac> !madison cell-gcc
Jan 28 12:38:54 <ubot4> asac: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
Jan 28 12:38:56 <ogra> oh, karmic
Jan 28 12:39:02 <ogra> !info redboot-imx
Jan 28 12:39:03 <ubot4> ogra: Package redboot-imx does not exist in karmic
Jan 28 12:39:06 <asac> !info uboot-imx lucid
Jan 28 12:39:08 <ogra> right, there you go
Jan 28 12:39:11 <ubot4> asac: Package uboot-imx does not exist in lucid
Jan 28 12:39:15 <asac> isnt there a version=
Jan 28 12:39:17 <asac> in the binary?
Jan 28 12:39:21 <asac> i think it just knows binaries
Jan 28 12:39:25 <ogra> not for the source package
Jan 28 12:39:27 <ogra> ah
Jan 28 12:39:41 <asac> !info uboot-imx51-to3
Jan 28 12:39:43 <asac> !info uboot-imx51-to3 lucid
Jan 28 12:39:44 <ubot4> asac: Package uboot-imx51-to3 does not exist in karmic
Jan 28 12:39:46 <ubot4> asac: Package uboot-imx51-to3 does not exist in lucid
Jan 28 12:39:48 <asac> ok
Jan 28 12:39:57 <asac> ubot4: please tell your owner to improve you. thx
Jan 28 12:39:57 <ubot4> asac: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
Jan 28 12:40:02 <ogra> heh
Jan 28 12:40:18 <asac> ok marked those as PS3
Jan 28 12:40:31 <asac> cpqarrayd
Jan 28 12:40:33 <asac> !info cpqarrayd
Jan 28 12:40:36 <ubot4> asac: cpqarrayd (source: cpqarrayd): monitoring tool for HP (Compaq) SmartArray controllers. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.3-1 (karmic), package size 17 kB, installed size 124 kB
Jan 28 12:40:39 <asac> aha
Jan 28 12:40:40 <asac> ;)
Jan 28 12:41:31 <asac> hmm. that one has parts of the kernel tree in the debian/ directory :(
Jan 28 12:41:49 <ogra> cool !
Jan 28 12:41:53 <asac> bah
Jan 28 12:41:58 <ogra> we should that more often !
Jan 28 12:42:00 <asac> is that normal?
Jan 28 12:42:06 <ogra> definately not
Jan 28 12:42:17 <dmart> ... sorry, distracted ...
Jan 28 12:42:18 <ogra> for that specific package probably ...
Jan 28 12:42:36 <asac> no problem ;) ... we did some bot training ;)
Jan 28 12:42:45 <ogra> it might need headers that the kernel doesnt ship by default or some such
Jan 28 12:43:11 <asac> thats why all the .S files are in there?
Jan 28 12:43:12 <dmart> I'm pretty sure cell-{gcc,binutils,etc.} will be Cell arch specific tools packages; punt those to doko?
Jan 28 12:43:26 <ogra> if he even cares
Jan 28 12:43:29 <asac> grep cpqarrayd * | pastebinit
Jan 28 12:43:30 <asac> http://pastebin.com/f1f093e3a
Jan 28 12:43:34 <ogra> not sure the sell port is still alive
Jan 28 12:43:46 <asac> dmart: i marked those as PS3 only for now
Jan 28 12:43:49 <ogra> *cell
Jan 28 12:43:52 <dmart> OK
Jan 28 12:43:53 <asac> thats what ogra said
Jan 28 12:43:56 <asac> aka nothing to do
Jan 28 12:44:20 <ogra> wow, thats ugly
Jan 28 12:44:26 <asac> ok saying that cpqarrayd needs to be checked ... has kernel tree in debian/
Jan 28 12:44:39 <asac> !info ctypes
Jan 28 12:44:39 <ubot4> asac: Package ctypes does not exist in karmic
Jan 28 12:44:57 <asac> grep ctypes * | pastebinit
Jan 28 12:44:57 <asac> http://pastebin.com/f15603dcf
Jan 28 12:45:36 <asac> needs investigation i would say ...
Jan 28 12:45:45 <asac> uses call_reg macro so might be good for mov
Jan 28 12:46:47 <asac> dmart: the ldr parts are a false-+ for that?
Jan 28 12:47:06 <asac> see paste above
Jan 28 12:47:57 <asac> ok next ...
Jan 28 12:47:58 <asac> grep cxxtools * | pastebinit
Jan 28 12:47:59 <asac> http://pastebin.com/f281dc3f0
Jan 28 12:48:05 <asac> seems to use atomics
Jan 28 12:48:33 <dmart> ctypes - that looks like x87 assembler, so probaby not relevant.  The mov pc, lr stuff seems to be in an embedded libffi, so can we link those two up?
Jan 28 12:49:15 <asac> dmart: so i will comment that hits are probably libffi dupes
Jan 28 12:49:30 <dmart> ok.
Jan 28 12:49:38 <asac> ok dd is false-+
Jan 28 12:49:39 <asac> ddd
Jan 28 12:49:45 <dmart> cxxtools - I agree
Jan 28 12:50:01 <dmart> ddd - agreed
Jan 28 12:50:12 <asac> deal.ii seems to be atomics again
Jan 28 12:50:22 <dmart> deal.ii - agreed
Jan 28 12:50:30 <asac> desmume
Jan 28 12:50:47 <asac> hmm. disassembler
Jan 28 12:50:55 <asac> migt be right.
Jan 28 12:51:00 <dmart> weird, guess we don't care about that
Jan 28 12:51:25 <asac> yes
Jan 28 12:51:41 <asac> dietlibc
Jan 28 12:51:48 <dmart> desmume - Nintendo DS emulator, apparently
Jan 28 12:52:31 <dmart> dietlibc - generally looks like it needs some porting (atomics, low-level asm)
Jan 28 12:52:49 <asac> ack
Jan 28 12:53:05 <asac> disktype
Jan 28 12:53:10 <asac> amiga ;)
Jan 28 12:53:12 <asac> false+
Jan 28 12:53:16 <dmart> yep
Jan 28 12:53:23 <asac> dosbox
Jan 28 12:53:34 <dmart> surely false-+... checking...
Jan 28 12:53:36 <asac> disasm again
Jan 28 12:53:50 <asac> e3
Jan 28 12:54:01 <asac> great package name ;)
Jan 28 12:54:10 <asac> grep e3- * | pastebinit
Jan 28 12:54:10 <asac> http://pastebin.com/feafed1
Jan 28 12:54:26 <dmart> what's this package?
Jan 28 12:54:44 <asac> checkig
Jan 28 12:54:50 <suihkulokki> dmart: some arm eabi support was added to dietlibc but I still didnt manage to get it to compile
Jan 28 12:54:52 <asac> !info r3
Jan 28 12:54:52 <ubot4> asac: Package r3 does not exist in karmic
Jan 28 12:54:54 <asac> !info e3
Jan 28 12:54:54 <ubot4> asac: e3 (source: e3): A very small editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.71-1 (karmic), package size 37 kB, installed size 120 kB (Only available for i386 kfreebsd-i386 amd64 kfreebsd-amd64)
Jan 28 12:55:06 <asac> hmm ... seems not relevant
Jan 28 12:55:12 <asac> (not supported arch)
Jan 28 12:55:41 <asac> ecl
Jan 28 12:55:52 <dmart> Weird that there is ARM code in there... it looks like someone tried to support it...
Jan 28 12:56:02 <asac> dupe of libatomic-ops i guess
Jan 28 12:56:09 <asac> yeah
Jan 28 12:56:27 <asac> but given what the bot said, the debian maintainer has explicitly marked it for just that arch?
Jan 28 12:56:33 <asac> those archs
Jan 28 12:56:40 <asac>                available for i386 kfreebsd-i386 amd64 kfreebsd-amd64)
Jan 28 12:57:01 <asac> okadded to comment that arm code exists
Jan 28 12:57:07 <asac> and someone might want to finish ;)
Jan 28 12:57:08 <dmart> suihkulokki: ftbfs just for lucid, or generally?
Jan 28 12:57:19 <dmart> asac: ok
Jan 28 12:57:46 <asac> so ok ... i said that ecl depends on libatomic-ops (which we have in main i think)
Jan 28 12:58:04 <asac> hmm ... and gmp ;)
Jan 28 12:58:37 <dmart> Yes, those both look like dupes, can we link them?
Jan 28 12:59:20 <asac> yes
Jan 28 12:59:24 <dmart> I expect we can dismiss the emacs packages (emacs23 in main was false-+)
Jan 28 12:59:26 <asac> well. i added that as comment
Jan 28 12:59:31 <asac> so i can add a task to the other bugs
Jan 28 12:59:37 <asac> yes
Jan 28 12:59:40 <suihkulokki> dmart: debian :)
Jan 28 12:59:42 <asac> (emacs)
Jan 28 13:00:21 <dmart> suihkulokki: so we can judge dietlibc as not Ubuntu-ready then? (Ubuntu is EABI)
Jan 28 13:00:30 <asac> !info etherboot
Jan 28 13:00:44 <ubot4> asac: etherboot (source: etherboot): Bootstrapping for various network adapters. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.4.3+dfsg-0.2ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 20515 kB, installed size 30644 kB
Jan 28 13:00:54 <asac> dfsg/src/arch/armnommu/core/start.S:
Jan 28 13:00:59 <NCommander> dmart, yeah, dietlibc is dead for ARM. There are patches to make it EABI complient, but upstream was stalled last I checked.
Jan 28 13:01:23 <dmart> NCommander, suihkulokki: I guess we don't have specific concerns for Thumb-2 right now then
Jan 28 13:01:37 <dmart> etherboot - bootloader, so we can probably ignore this one
Jan 28 13:01:41 <asac> ok ... i add acomment
Jan 28 13:01:44 <suihkulokki> dmart: unless you want to work on it..
Jan 28 13:01:44 <asac> (to dietlibc)
Jan 28 13:02:20 <asac> falconpl
Jan 28 13:02:22 <asac> !info falconpl
Jan 28 13:02:22 <ubot4> asac: falconpl (source: falconpl): The Falcon P. L. - command line tools. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.4-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 93 kB, installed size 252 kB
Jan 28 13:02:31 <dmart> suihkulokki: I'll see whether anyone else on my side knows about it :)
Jan 28 13:02:31 <asac> false-+
Jan 28 13:02:39 <asac> faumachine
Jan 28 13:02:43 <asac> !info faumachine
Jan 28 13:02:44 <ubot4> asac: faumachine (source: faumachine): Virtual machine running in user mode. In component universe, is optional. Version 20090512-1ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 1204 kB, installed size 4368 kB
Jan 28 13:02:53 <asac> false positive too
Jan 28 13:03:07 <asac> !info ffcall
Jan 28 13:03:07 <ubot4> asac: Package ffcall does not exist in karmic
Jan 28 13:03:32 <asac> http://pastebin.com/fe0b29f1
Jan 28 13:03:37 <dmart> faumachine - the match appears to be part of a comment, so OK
Jan 28 13:03:38 <asac> needs to be checked for mov's i guess
Jan 28 13:04:18 <dmart> Yes; doesn't look T2-compatible right now
Jan 28 13:04:21 <asac> ffmpeg-php -> false-+
Jan 28 13:04:36 <asac> fpc
Jan 28 13:04:52 <asac> mov and swp
Jan 28 13:04:56 <dmart> !info fpc
Jan 28 13:04:57 <ubot4> dmart: fpc (source: fpc): Free Pascal Compiler - Meta Package. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.4-3 (karmic), package size 10 kB, installed size 40 kB (Only available for all i386 powerpc sparc amd64 arm)
Jan 28 13:05:09 <dmart> Hmmm, I guess that needs looking at
Jan 28 13:05:35 <asac> yes. noted as mov and swp porting )
Jan 28 13:05:37 <dmart> !info freesci
Jan 28 13:05:37 <ubot4> dmart: freesci (source: freesci): a portable interpreter for SCI games like Space Quest 3. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.6.4-3 (karmic), package size 595 kB, installed size 1312 kB
Jan 28 13:05:44 <asac> onh
Jan 28 13:06:02 <NCommander> asac, fpc is going to be painful to port
Jan 28 13:06:05 * NCommander did some looking at it
Jan 28 13:06:06 <asac> freesci needs to be looked at
Jan 28 13:06:12 <asac> not sure if that applies
Jan 28 13:06:38 <suihkulokki> NCommander: looked into fpc 2.4 too ?
Jan 28 13:06:41 <dmart> freesci - agreed
Jan 28 13:06:41 <asac> NCommander: right. its universe, so it comes last :)
Jan 28 13:06:56 <asac> fte -> false-
Jan 28 13:06:57 <asac> +
Jan 28 13:07:08 <asac> gamera
Jan 28 13:07:12 <NCommander> suihkulokki, nope
Jan 28 13:07:21 <asac> false-+, not arm asm
Jan 28 13:07:26 <dmart> gamera - false-+ (x86 asm)
Jan 28 13:08:07 <dmart> gauche-c-wrapper - embedded libffi?  (same implications as ctypes)
Jan 28 13:08:44 <asac> yes
Jan 28 13:08:51 <asac> has macro ... might be safe
Jan 28 13:08:56 <dmart> gcc-4.x -> doko (do we know which ones are actually in use to build stuff in universe?)
Jan 28 13:09:13 <asac> ok gcc stuff is already dealt elsewhere ... yes
Jan 28 13:09:20 <asac> gcj is next that doesnt have a comment
Jan 28 13:09:23 <asac> guess its doko too
Jan 28 13:09:26 <dmart> gauche-c-wrapper - yes, looks like a simple review
Jan 28 13:09:39 <dmart> gcj is gcc
Jan 28 13:09:42 <asac> gcl
Jan 28 13:09:44 <dmart> so doko again
Jan 28 13:09:45 <asac> yes
Jan 28 13:09:51 <asac> marked gcj for doko
Jan 28 13:09:52 <asac> !gcl
Jan 28 13:09:52 <ubot4> Factoid 'gcl' not found
Jan 28 13:09:55 <asac> !info gcl
Jan 28 13:09:55 <ubot4> asac: gcl (source: gcl): GNU Common Lisp compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.7-45ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 45862 kB, installed size 152848 kB
Jan 28 13:10:02 <NCommander> gcl is evil in several ways
Jan 28 13:10:10 <NCommander> It has an embedded copy of binutils and gcc :-/
Jan 28 13:10:19 <asac> hmm. plenty of stuff i guess
Jan 28 13:10:45 <asac> ok so
Jan 28 13:10:45 <asac> grep gcl- * | grep -v binutils
Jan 28 13:10:46 <asac> search-arm-mov.filt: ./gcl-2.6.7/gmp3/mpn/arm/invert_limb.asm:	add	r2, pc, #invtab-.-8
Jan 28 13:10:47 <dmart> gcl - just embedded binutils, or is there anything else?
Jan 28 13:10:49 <asac> search-arm-mov.filt: ./gcl-2.6.7/gmp3/mpn/arm/udiv.asm:	mov	pc, lr
Jan 28 13:11:02 <asac> the rest should be covered by binutils
Jan 28 13:11:25 <dmart> embedded gmp3 might be the same as gmp?
Jan 28 13:11:47 <dmart> Probably, looking at our previous review
Jan 28 13:11:50 <asac> hmm
Jan 28 13:11:54 <NCommander> asac, I recommend you check the size of gcl's diff.gz if you want to see why I think gcl is crack
Jan 28 13:12:10 <dmart> !info gcl
Jan 28 13:12:10 <ubot4> dmart: gcl (source: gcl): GNU Common Lisp compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.7-45ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 45862 kB, installed size 152848 kB
Jan 28 13:12:10 <asac> !info gclcvs
Jan 28 13:12:12 <ubot4> asac: gclcvs (source: gclcvs): GNU Common Lisp compiler, CVS snapshot. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7.0-64 (karmic), package size 48061 kB, installed size 175136 kB
Jan 28 13:12:14 <dmart> ugh
Jan 28 13:12:17 <dmart> ;)
Jan 28 13:12:20 <asac> lol
Jan 28 13:12:53 <dmart> anyway, it looks to me like the hits are in imported packages
Jan 28 13:12:53 <asac> NCommander: i didnt say that gcl isnt crack ;) ... i dont know the code
Jan 28 13:13:07 <asac> binutils again etc.
Jan 28 13:13:08 <asac> damn
Jan 28 13:13:33 <asac> same as gcl
Jan 28 13:13:44 <asac> !info gdal
Jan 28 13:13:44 <ubot4> asac: Package gdal does not exist in karmic
Jan 28 13:13:46 <dmart> ok, needs a look in principle, but the problems are probably answered by addressing gmp and binutils (binutils may already be done anyway, depending on the age of the snapshot)
Jan 28 13:13:54 <asac> x86 assembbler
Jan 28 13:14:00 <dmart> For tools packages in general, we should try to find out if they're used to build anything
Jan 28 13:14:34 <asac> hmm. good point
Jan 28 13:16:19 <dmart> Can we tag such packages with a magic word, or collect them somewhere?  Sounds like someone could do a 1-pass review for build-deps later
Jan 28 13:17:21 <asac> not sure ... added that as a comment
Jan 28 13:17:27 <asac> we can decide when filing that bug
Jan 28 13:17:27 <asac> etc.
Jan 28 13:17:29 <dmart> gdal - "Geospatial Data Abstraction Library"
Jan 28 13:17:41 <asac> thats x86 asm
Jan 28 13:17:44 <asac> !gdb-avr
Jan 28 13:17:45 <ubot4> Factoid 'gdb-avr' not found
Jan 28 13:18:09 <asac> hmm. some disasm
Jan 28 13:18:17 <dmart> gdal - agreed
Jan 28 13:18:24 <asac> guess is related to gdb
Jan 28 13:18:28 <asac> will put that on doko plate
Jan 28 13:18:34 <dmart> I guess it's gdb for the avr arch
Jan 28 13:18:35 <dmart> ?
Jan 28 13:18:50 <asac> hmm
Jan 28 13:18:52 <dmart> gdm-m68blah similarly
Jan 28 13:19:00 <asac> there is arm code inside the -avr
Jan 28 13:19:06 <asac> not sure its because its a full copy of something
Jan 28 13:19:15 <asac> ok lets treat that as arch dependent
Jan 28 13:19:32 <dmart> That's probably just be a binutils dump
Jan 28 13:19:42 <asac> geshi
Jan 28 13:19:45 <asac> !info geshi
Jan 28 13:19:45 <ubot4> asac: Package geshi does not exist in karmic
Jan 28 13:19:54 <asac> false-+
Jan 28 13:19:56 <asac> php code
Jan 28 13:20:00 <dmart> "generic syntax highlighter"
Jan 28 13:20:07 <dmart> agreed
Jan 28 13:20:10 <asac> !info ghdl
Jan 28 13:20:11 <ubot4> asac: ghdl (source: ghdl): VHDL compiler/simulator using GCC technology. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.27+svn110+gcc4.3.3+dfsg-1 (karmic), package size 11429 kB, installed size 32804 kB
Jan 28 13:20:41 <asac> hmm. gcc copy
Jan 28 13:20:45 <asac> needs to be checked i guess
Jan 28 13:20:51 <asac> esp. because its 4.3.3
Jan 28 13:20:52 <dmart> ->doko?
Jan 28 13:21:16 <asac> lets say its doko ... yes. marked
Jan 28 13:21:24 <asac> !gimp-gap
Jan 28 13:21:24 <ubot4> Factoid 'gimp-gap' not found
Jan 28 13:21:27 <asac> !info gimp-gap
Jan 28 13:21:27 <ubot4> asac: gimp-gap (source: gimp-gap): The GIMP Animation Package. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.0-2ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 2526 kB, installed size 7896 kB
Jan 28 13:21:38 <asac> false-+
Jan 28 13:21:41 <dmart> yes
Jan 28 13:21:50 <asac> !info gnat-4.3
Jan 28 13:21:51 <ubot4> asac: gnat-4.3 (source: gnat-4.3): The GNU Ada compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.3.4-1ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 12284 kB, installed size 55668 kB
Jan 28 13:21:51 <dmart> gnat-3.4 -> doko
Jan 28 13:21:55 <asac> i think we already have gnat
Jan 28 13:21:56 <asac> yes
Jan 28 13:22:09 <dmart> I think it comes out of the GCC tree anyway
Jan 28 13:22:14 <asac> !info gnu-smalltalk
Jan 28 13:22:14 <ubot4> asac: gnu-smalltalk (source: gnu-smalltalk): GNU Smalltalk interpreter and image. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.0.3-2 (karmic), package size 641 kB, installed size 2208 kB
Jan 28 13:22:27 <asac> uses call_reg macro
Jan 28 13:22:31 <dmart> libffi dupe again
Jan 28 13:22:32 <asac> probably ok but needs verified
Jan 28 13:22:34 <asac> yeah
Jan 28 13:22:49 <asac> !info gnuplot
Jan 28 13:22:49 <ubot4> asac: gnuplot (source: gnuplot): A command-line driven interactive plotting program. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.2.5-2 (karmic), package size 1 kB, installed size 20 kB
Jan 28 13:23:07 <asac> os2 ;)
Jan 28 13:23:09 <asac> false-+
Jan 28 13:23:25 <asac> !info google-perftools
Jan 28 13:23:25 <ubot4> asac: Package google-perftools does not exist in karmic
Jan 28 13:23:38 <asac> hmm linux syscall
Jan 28 13:24:40 <dmart> might need a look
Jan 28 13:24:56 <dmart> my guess is that it may not be critical
Jan 28 13:24:57 <asac> yes
Jan 28 13:25:11 <asac> !info gromacs
Jan 28 13:25:11 <ubot4> asac: gromacs (source: gromacs): Molecular dynamics simulator, with building and analysis tools. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.0.5-4 (karmic), package size 3684 kB, installed size 13188 kB
Jan 28 13:25:15 <dmart> false-+
Jan 28 13:25:19 <asac> false
Jan 28 13:25:21 <asac> y
Jan 28 13:25:39 <asac> ok guess gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg is dealt by ffmpeg
Jan 28 13:25:58 <dmart> probably... is that a separate source package?
Jan 28 13:25:58 <asac> hmm. maybe not
Jan 28 13:26:02 <asac> seems so
Jan 28 13:26:31 <ogra> suihkulokki, i get a lot of "unsupported syscall 335" in recent qemu-arm-static, that appears to be utrace, any idea about an existing fix ?
Jan 28 13:26:50 <dmart> embedded ffmpeg - someone should check it.  It may be one of those cases where the upstream project embeds a lib but we use the installed one (ie from the ffmpeg source package)
Jan 28 13:27:01 <dmart> gxemul - emulator - false-+
Jan 28 13:27:22 <asac> yes
Jan 28 13:28:08 <dmart> helix-player - a mov pc, lr; and some swp which might need porting
Jan 28 13:28:12 <asac> helix-player -> uses atomics
Jan 28 13:28:14 <asac> yes
Jan 28 13:28:29 <asac> hol88
Jan 28 13:28:31 <asac> !info hol88
Jan 28 13:28:32 <ubot4> asac: hol88 (source: hol88): Higher Order Logic, system image. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.02.19940316-8 (karmic), package size 9530 kB, installed size 44532 kB
Jan 28 13:28:39 <dmart> scary
Jan 28 13:28:42 <asac> false
Jan 28 13:28:44 <asac> +
Jan 28 13:28:57 <dmart> yes
Jan 28 13:28:58 <asac> !info ht
Jan 28 13:28:59 <ubot4> asac: ht (source: ht): Viewer/editor/analyser (mostly) for executables. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.17-1 (karmic), package size 619 kB, installed size 1668 kB
Jan 28 13:29:23 <asac> arm-dis
Jan 28 13:29:25 <dmart> looks like a disassembler
Jan 28 13:29:33 <asac> seems to not apply
Jan 28 13:29:55 <dmart> hurd - also scary :P  has this been ported to arm at all?
Jan 28 13:29:57 <asac> !info hurd
Jan 28 13:29:57 <ubot4> asac: Package hurd does not exist in karmic
Jan 28 13:30:15 <asac> heh
Jan 28 13:30:25 <asac> thats out
Jan 28 13:30:34 <asac> doesnt apply ;)
Jan 28 13:30:40 <asac> !info imview
Jan 28 13:30:40 <ubot4> asac: imview (source: imview): Image viewing and analysis application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.9c-4ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 608 kB, installed size 1560 kB
Jan 28 13:30:47 <dmart> hurd - guess not (or someone else's problem)
Jan 28 13:30:51 <asac> false
Jan 28 13:31:00 <asac> (imview)
Jan 28 13:31:02 <dmart> yes
Jan 28 13:31:08 <asac> !info insight
Jan 28 13:31:09 <ubot4> asac: insight (source: insight): Graphical debugger based on GDB. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.7.1.dfsg.1-10.1ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 1804 kB, installed size 5284 kB
Jan 28 13:31:30 <asac> hmm
Jan 28 13:31:36 <asac> smells like something was copied ;)
Jan 28 13:31:45 <asac> i saw the sim/testsuite at least ;)
Jan 28 13:32:03 <asac> also ./insight-6.7.1.dfsg.1/bfd/elf32-arm.c:
Jan 28 13:32:08 <asac> thats some toolchain stuff?
Jan 28 13:32:21 <dmart> embedded gdb, bfd and stuff ... yeah, bfd comes from binutils
Jan 28 13:32:40 <suihkulokki> ogra: thats pselect6, feel free to implement :)
Jan 28 13:32:48 <dmart> one for doko?  I don't know what the /sim/ stuff is or how must we care
Jan 28 13:33:15 <dmart> suihkulokki, ogra: was pselect6 implemented for arm yet?
Jan 28 13:34:25 <dmart> asac: insighttoolkit - false-+ (x86 asm)
Jan 28 13:34:44 <dmart> ironpython - false-+
Jan 28 13:35:27 <dmart> jamvm - swp-based atomics and native calls with mov pc, lr
Jan 28 13:36:05 * dmart grabs a sandwich
Jan 28 13:36:56 * asac too
Jan 28 13:37:29 <ogra> i doubt pselect was implemented
Jan 28 13:37:35 <ogra> well pselect6
Jan 28 13:38:28 <asac> ok did a checkpoint save on wiki
Jan 28 13:38:31 <asac> getting some bread too
Jan 28 13:39:57 * NCommander grumbles
Jan 28 13:45:44 <asac> ok seems we did a big chunk ;)
Jan 28 13:45:49 <asac> still only half way through :(
Jan 28 13:45:51 <ogra> hmm
Jan 28 13:45:59 <asac> kaya
Jan 28 13:46:02 * ogra doesnt get why he still sees qemu: Unsupported syscall: 242
Jan 28 13:46:03 <asac> kino
Jan 28 13:46:15 <asac> ogra: i dont get why it doesnt work at all for me ;)
Jan 28 13:46:25 <asac> i am on lucid and plain lucid kerenel
Jan 28 13:46:30 <ogra> according to linux-user/arm/syscall_nr.h thats supported now
Jan 28 13:46:31 <asac> still get the binfmt problem :(
Jan 28 13:46:36 <ogra> weird
Jan 28 13:46:42 <ogra> works flawless here
Jan 28 13:46:49 <ogra> even after the upgrade
Jan 28 13:47:03 <ogra> can you try to run build-arm-choort standalone ?
Jan 28 13:47:08 <asac> i will try to just use qemu-arm-static chroot manually
Jan 28 13:47:08 <ogra> *chroot
Jan 28 13:47:10 <asac> right. thats the idea
Jan 28 13:47:24 <ogra> thats what i just did here
Jan 28 13:47:33 <asac> ruinning
Jan 28 13:47:35 <ogra> to find out if mono started to behave
Jan 28 13:47:47 <ogra> but apparently its not
Jan 28 13:48:01 <suihkulokki> ogra: that doesn't list supported syscalls. it lists syscall numbers.
Jan 28 13:48:23 <ogra> oh, i thought they are only added there when someone implemented it actually
Jan 28 13:48:29 <suihkulokki> read linux-user/syscall.c to find what is really supported
Jan 28 13:48:32 <ogra> ok, that expleins it then
Jan 28 13:49:07 <dmart> asac: did you get my comments up to jamwm?
Jan 28 13:49:36 <ogra> i know there exists a patch for pselect and ppoll somewhere
Jan 28 13:49:39 <asac> yes
Jan 28 13:49:43 <dmart> ok
Jan 28 13:49:46 <asac> dmart: i thought i saved that alradcy
Jan 28 13:49:53 <ogra> but no idea if that was ever applied
Jan 28 13:49:53 <asac> so lets continue
Jan 28 13:49:59 <asac> kaya and kino ;)
Jan 28 13:50:08 <dmart> I didn't read the scrollback very carefully...
Jan 28 13:50:15 <asac> kaya false-+
Jan 28 13:50:17 <dmart> jocaml?
Jan 28 13:51:13 <dmart> jocaml - some assembler with mov pc stuff, probably needs a look
Jan 28 13:51:17 <asac> yes
Jan 28 13:51:20 <asac> thats what is already in there
Jan 28 13:51:22 <asac> skipped it
Jan 28 13:51:31 <dmart> oh yes
Jan 28 13:51:38 <suihkulokki> and no, getaffinity will not help you get mono work in qemu linux-user if that is why you are after 242
Jan 28 13:51:45 <asac> kino seems armv4l
Jan 28 13:51:49 <asac> should be checked
Jan 28 13:52:38 <asac> hmm seems to be fffmpeg
Jan 28 13:52:38 <dmart> cross-ref kino to ffmpeg - it's a embedded ffmpeg (may not be a problem if the system ffmpeg libs are used)
Jan 28 13:53:03 <asac> kompozer -> is a mess
Jan 28 13:53:07 <asac> really old mozilla code
Jan 28 13:53:11 <asac> dont think we can port that
Jan 28 13:53:25 <asac> maybe it should finally get removed from archive
Jan 28 13:53:34 <dmart> !info kompozer
Jan 28 13:53:35 <ubot4> dmart: kompozer (source: kompozer): complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.8~alpha4+dfsg+svn163-2 (karmic), package size 7328 kB, installed size 19580 kB
Jan 28 13:54:00 <dmart> hmmm, maybe make a note, but otherwise not too important I guess
Jan 28 13:54:31 <asac> yes
Jan 28 13:54:35 <asac> done
Jan 28 13:54:40 <asac> !info kvirc
Jan 28 13:54:40 <ubot4> asac: kvirc (source: kvirc): KDE based next generation IRC client with module support. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.0.0~svn3240-1 (karmic), package size 2976 kB, installed size 9276 kB
Jan 28 13:54:42 <dmart> kvirc - false-+
Jan 28 13:54:50 <asac> ack
Jan 28 13:55:02 <asac> !info libgd-gd2-noxpm-perl
Jan 28 13:55:02 <ubot4> asac: libgd-gd2-noxpm-perl (source: libgd-gd2-noxpm-perl): Perl module wrapper for libgd - gd2 variant without XPM support. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:2.39-2 (karmic), package size 216 kB, installed size 644 kB
Jan 28 13:55:10 <asac> false
Jan 28 13:55:12 <asac> +
Jan 28 13:55:19 <dmart> agreed
Jan 28 13:55:21 <asac> !info libgii
Jan 28 13:55:21 <ubot4> asac: Package libgii does not exist in karmic
Jan 28 13:55:29 <asac> atomics
Jan 28 13:55:42 <asac> !info libnet-dri-perl
Jan 28 13:55:42 <ubot4> asac: Package libnet-dri-perl does not exist in karmic
Jan 28 13:55:45 <dmart> yes, may need a look
Jan 28 13:55:48 <dmart> (libggi)
Jan 28 13:55:49 <asac> false-+
Jan 28 13:56:00 <asac> !info libopenspc
Jan 28 13:56:00 <ubot4> asac: Package libopenspc does not exist in karmic
Jan 28 13:56:12 <asac> other arch it seems
Jan 28 13:56:36 <asac> !info libtk-img
Jan 28 13:56:36 <ubot4> asac: libtk-img (source: libtk-img): Extended image format support for Tcl/Tk (runtime). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.3-release-8 (karmic), package size 118 kB, installed size 464 kB
Jan 28 13:56:49 <dmart> libopenspc - might be a snes music chip emulator lib iirc
Jan 28 13:56:53 <asac> also other arch false-+
Jan 28 13:57:21 <asac> yes, last two are other arch afaics
Jan 28 13:57:36 <asac> !info libv8 ?
Jan 28 13:57:36 <ubot4> asac: '?' is not a valid distribution: hardy, intrepid, jaunty, karmic, lucid
Jan 28 13:57:38 <asac> !info libv8
Jan 28 13:57:38 <ubot4> asac: Package libv8 does not exist in karmic
Jan 28 13:57:50 <asac> how did that get in that list? isnt libv8 the v8 js engine of chromium?
Jan 28 13:57:59 <asac> afaik thats only packaged outside of archive
Jan 28 13:58:27 <asac> anyway, needs a check ... generates arm code with mov
Jan 28 13:59:06 <asac> !info lifelines
Jan 28 13:59:07 <ubot4> asac: lifelines (source: lifelines): text-based genealogy software. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.61-1 (karmic), package size 967 kB, installed size 2392 kB
Jan 28 13:59:14 <asac> false+
Jan 28 13:59:38 * dmart acks recent packages
Jan 28 13:59:47 <asac> !info lightning-sunbird
Jan 28 13:59:47 <ubot4> asac: Package lightning-sunbird does not exist in karmic
Jan 28 13:59:51 <asac> ok that one is mozilla code base
Jan 28 13:59:58 <asac> we will move to something based on 1.9.2 branch
Jan 28 14:00:05 <asac> so should be ok once we have the thumb patch landed
Jan 28 14:00:10 <asac> (otherwise we have the patch)
Jan 28 14:00:27 <asac> so: needs bump to 1.9.2 codebase + thumb2 patch
Jan 28 14:00:39 <dmart> I guess we should keep track of all these x has embedded y somehow
Jan 28 14:01:04 <asac> yeah
Jan 28 14:01:17 <dmart> linux-rt  - linux snapshow
Jan 28 14:01:19 <asac> well. we open bugs and since we do it from top down we can add new tasks to the other bug
Jan 28 14:01:26 <asac> yes, linux-rt -> dealt elsewhere?
Jan 28 14:01:34 <dmart> agreed
Jan 28 14:01:38 <asac>  not sure where ;)
Jan 28 14:01:48 <asac> we can assign a bug to cooloney or someone to ack that
Jan 28 14:02:04 <asac> !info llvm-gcc-4.2
Jan 28 14:02:04 <ubot4> asac: llvm-gcc-4.2 (source: llvm-gcc-4.2): C/C++ front end for LLVM compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6~pre1-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 23726 kB, installed size 107388 kB
Jan 28 14:02:06 <asac> doko gcc
Jan 28 14:02:09 <asac> ?
Jan 28 14:02:43 <dmart> I think this is llvm, not gcc; for main we just said to review; we can probably link those together
Jan 28 14:02:59 <asac> ok
Jan 28 14:03:14 <asac> !info ltp
Jan 28 14:03:14 <ubot4> asac: ltp (source: ltp): The Linux Test Project test suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 20090531+dfsg-4ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 51 kB, installed size 360 kB
Jan 28 14:03:21 <asac> false-+
Jan 28 14:03:29 <asac> !info lwp
Jan 28 14:03:30 <ubot4> asac: Package lwp does not exist in karmic
Jan 28 14:03:44 <asac> needes a check
Jan 28 14:03:45 <asac> mov
Jan 28 14:03:49 <asac> hmm
Jan 28 14:03:57 <dmart> ltp - agreed
Jan 28 14:04:23 <dmart> lwp - agreed (dunno what this is)
Jan 28 14:04:33 <asac> !info lyx
Jan 28 14:04:33 <ubot4> asac: lyx (source: lyx): Document Processor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.4-1ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 3093 kB, installed size 7924 kB
Jan 28 14:04:43 <asac> atomics check
Jan 28 14:04:49 <asac> esems to be boost
Jan 28 14:04:50 <ogra> suihkulokki, hmm, there seems to be anold suse patch for 242 http://paste.ubuntu.com/364585/
Jan 28 14:04:53 <asac> marking
Jan 28 14:04:55 <ogra> *an old
Jan 28 14:05:01 <dmart> asac: lyx - agreed
Jan 28 14:05:07 <asac> !info mapivi
Jan 28 14:05:07 <ubot4> asac: mapivi (source: mapivi): Photo viewer and organizer with emphasis on IPTC fields. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7-1 (karmic), package size 426 kB, installed size 1676 kB
Jan 28 14:05:12 <asac> false-Гј
Jan 28 14:05:18 <dmart> yes
Jan 28 14:05:21 <asac> !info mapserver
Jan 28 14:05:21 <ubot4> asac: Package mapserver does not exist in karmic
Jan 28 14:05:26 <asac> as well
Jan 28 14:05:37 <asac> !info metacity-themes
Jan 28 14:05:37 <ubot4> asac: metacity-themes (source: metacity-themes): Themes for the Gtk2 metacity window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.11 (karmic), package size 384 kB, installed size 1956 kB
Jan 28 14:05:42 <asac> dito
Jan 28 14:06:22 <dmart> mapserver, metachtiy-themes - agreed
Jan 28 14:06:28 * asac fighting with wiki ;)
Jan 28 14:07:06 <asac> ok
Jan 28 14:07:08 <asac> !info mit-scheme
Jan 28 14:07:08 <ubot4> asac: mit-scheme (source: mit-scheme): MIT/GNU Scheme development environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 7.7.90+20090107-1ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 6662 kB, installed size 18380 kB (Only available for i386)
Jan 28 14:07:11 <dmart> mit-scheme - x86 asm for scheme compiler... false-+
Jan 28 14:07:18 <asac> ack
Jan 28 14:07:26 <asac> !info mlton
Jan 28 14:07:27 <ubot4> asac: mlton (source: mlton): Optimizing compiler for Standard ML. In component universe, is optional. Version 20070826-1 (karmic), package size 10647 kB, installed size 47156 kB (Only available for amd64 hppa i386 powerpc sparc)
Jan 28 14:07:32 <asac> same
Jan 28 14:07:42 <dmart> looks like it
Jan 28 14:07:43 <asac> !info mupen64plus
Jan 28 14:07:43 <ubot4> asac: mupen64plus (source: mupen64plus): plugin-based Nintendo 64 emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5+dfsg1-7 (karmic), package size 1308 kB, installed size 4288 kB
Jan 28 14:07:55 <asac> hope thats too ;)
Jan 28 14:08:10 <asac> !info mysql-dfsg-5.0
Jan 28 14:08:11 <ubot4> asac: Package mysql-dfsg-5.0 does not exist in karmic
Jan 28 14:08:21 <dmart> mupen64plus - yes
Jan 28 14:08:25 <asac> atomics ... do we already have a mysql one in main?
Jan 28 14:08:56 <dmart> hmmm, I can't find it
Jan 28 14:09:12 <dmart> guess that may need a look
Jan 28 14:09:25 <dmart> !info netsurf
Jan 28 14:09:26 <ubot4> dmart: netsurf (source: netsurf): Small portable web browser with CSS and Unicode support. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2-1build1 (karmic), package size 416 kB, installed size 1232 kB
Jan 28 14:09:50 <dmart> ...but the matches are in /riscos/, so I don't expect it applies for us
Jan 28 14:10:20 <dmart> openbios-ppc - surely not relevant
Jan 28 14:11:02 <asac> ok netsurf is false+ then with riscos
Jan 28 14:11:29 <asac> !info openocd
Jan 28 14:11:29 <ubot4> asac: openocd (source: openocd): Open on-chip JTAG debug solution for ARM and MIPS systems. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.0+r2403-1 (karmic), package size 1882 kB, installed size 4960 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm armel armeb hppa hurd-i386 i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 m32r m68k mips mipsel netbsd-alpha netbsd-i386 powerpc sh sparc)
Jan 28 14:11:32 <suihkulokki> ogra: which is buggy. and as I said, wont help with mono.
Jan 28 14:11:35 <dmart> openocd - some kind of embedded hardware debugger?  Probably not relevant for us.
Jan 28 14:11:36 <asac> interesting
Jan 28 14:11:49 <asac> guess that needs a check
Jan 28 14:11:53 <asac> hmm
Jan 28 14:12:17 <dmart> maybe take a quick look, but my guess is that the asm doesn't run on the host
Jan 28 14:12:18 <asac> i dont know how that is run. guess in worst case it can be built with -marm?
Jan 28 14:12:28 <asac> hmm code be
Jan 28 14:12:29 <asac> could
Jan 28 14:12:52 <dmart> Hmmm, yes, I guess the code will get built by something.  Maybe you're expected to install cross tools packages or something.
Jan 28 14:13:02 <asac> !info openser
Jan 28 14:13:03 <ubot4> asac: openser (source: openser): very fast and configurable SIP proxy. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.2-3 (karmic), package size 1357 kB, installed size 3856 kB
Jan 28 14:13:16 <asac> i like those "very, very" software ;)
Jan 28 14:13:26 <asac> atomics candidate
Jan 28 14:13:39 <asac> !info oprofile
Jan 28 14:13:39 <ubot4> asac: oprofile (source: oprofile): system-wide profiler for Linux systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.4+cvs20090629-2.1ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 1365 kB, installed size 5152 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 alpha hppa powerpc sparc amd64 arm armel mips mipsel s390 lpia)
Jan 28 14:13:42 <dmart> openocd - Depends: libc6 (>= 2.8), libftdi1 (>= 0.17), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.4.0), libusb-0.1-4 (>= 2:0.1.12), dpkg (>= 1.15.4) | install-info (not very informative)
Jan 28 14:13:57 <asac> false-+
Jan 28 14:14:25 <dmart> oprofile seems to work (-ish) on lucid, though I do have to unload and reinitialise it between profiling runs.
Jan 28 14:14:26 <asac> dmart: yeah. i marked openocd  package for manual review
Jan 28 14:14:42 <asac> yeah. but there is no real code in the filter logs
Jan 28 14:15:02 <asac> so i think its false-positive for this list
Jan 28 14:15:06 <asac> !info osiris
Jan 28 14:15:06 <ubot4> asac: osiris (source: osiris): network-wide system integrity monitor control interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.2.3-3 (karmic), package size 392 kB, installed size 916 kB
Jan 28 14:15:09 <dmart> oprofile - agreed
Jan 28 14:15:24 <asac> atomics ... db4.2 copy
Jan 28 14:15:28 <asac>  dupe
Jan 28 14:15:34 <dmart> yes
Jan 28 14:15:45 <asac> !info palbart
Jan 28 14:15:45 <ubot4> asac: palbart (source: palbart): An enhanced version of the PAL PDP8 assembler. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.4-5 (karmic), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
Jan 28 14:15:51 <asac> false-+
Jan 28 14:16:10 <asac> paraview
Jan 28 14:16:11 <asac> !info paraview
Jan 28 14:16:11 <ubot4> asac: paraview (source: paraview): Parallel Visualization Application. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.4.0-4ubuntu4 (karmic), package size 43766 kB, installed size 154432 kB
Jan 28 14:16:11 <dmart> hmmm, 60-70% of the way through the list
Jan 28 14:16:20 <asac> yes. we can stop soon ;=)
Jan 28 14:16:32 <asac> paraview -> x86
Jan 28 14:16:37 <dmart> :)
Jan 28 14:16:39 <dmart> palbart - agreed
Jan 28 14:16:47 <asac> !info parrot
Jan 28 14:16:47 <ubot4> asac: parrot (source: parrot): A virtual machine for dynamic languages. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.0-1ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 205 kB, installed size 728 kB
Jan 28 14:16:56 <dmart> paraview - agreed
Jan 28 14:17:02 <asac> has a mov pc, ip
Jan 28 14:17:22 <dmart> Also in /jit/... guess it needs a look
Jan 28 14:17:25 <asac> yes
Jan 28 14:17:28 <asac> !info pdl
Jan 28 14:17:28 <ubot4> asac: pdl (source: pdl): perl data language: Perl extensions for numerics. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.4.3-8ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 4781 kB, installed size 15648 kB
Jan 28 14:17:35 <asac> false-+
Jan 28 14:17:37 <asac> good
Jan 28 14:17:44 <asac> !info perl-tk
Jan 28 14:17:44 <ubot4> asac: perl-tk (source: perl-tk): Perl module providing the Tk graphics library. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:804.028-5 (karmic), package size 2455 kB, installed size 8596 kB
Jan 28 14:17:53 <dmart> pdl - agreed
Jan 28 14:17:54 <asac> x86
Jan 28 14:18:07 <dmart> perl-tk - agreed
Jan 28 14:18:08 <asac> !info petsc
Jan 28 14:18:09 <ubot4> asac: Package petsc does not exist in karmic
Jan 28 14:18:19 <asac> alse false-+
Jan 28 14:18:22 <dmart> agreed
Jan 28 14:18:26 <asac> !info php-apc
Jan 28 14:18:26 <ubot4> asac: php-apc (source: php-apc): APC (Alternative PHP Cache) module for PHP 5. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.19-2 (karmic), package size 56 kB, installed size 172 kB
Jan 28 14:18:41 <dmart> swp-based spinlock
Jan 28 14:18:44 <asac> yes
Jan 28 14:18:45 <dmart> needs a look
Jan 28 14:18:56 <asac> !info plt-scheme
Jan 28 14:18:56 <ubot4> asac: plt-scheme (source: plt-scheme): PLT Scheme Programming Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.5-1 (karmic), package size 32256 kB, installed size 147924 kB
Jan 28 14:19:01 <dmart> similar
Jan 28 14:19:04 <asac> libffi
Jan 28 14:19:12 <dmart> yes
Jan 28 14:19:23 <asac> and mzscheme
Jan 28 14:19:25 <asac> never heard of that
Jan 28 14:19:32 <dmart> mzscheme?
Jan 28 14:19:49 <asac> ok comment is: "libffi call_reg + mzscheme swp/atomics"
Jan 28 14:19:55 <asac> well ;)  the source file is:
Jan 28 14:19:59 <dmart> ok
Jan 28 14:20:04 <asac> ./plt-scheme-4.2.1/src/mzscheme/gc/include/private/gc_locks.h:
Jan 28 14:20:10 <asac> no clue if that is a third party
Jan 28 14:20:17 <asac> !info postgresql-8.3
Jan 28 14:20:17 <ubot4> asac: postgresql-8.3 (source: postgresql-8.3): object-relational SQL database, version 8.3 server. In component universe, is optional. Version 8.3.8-1 (karmic), package size 5011 kB, installed size 14132 kB
Jan 28 14:20:20 <dmart> yeah, dunno
Jan 28 14:20:22 <asac> guess that needs atomics
Jan 28 14:20:30 <asac> right... same fix we have for 8.4
Jan 28 14:20:31 <dmart>  ./postgresql-8.4-8.4.1/src/include/storage/s_lock.h:           "       swpb    %0, %0, [%2]    \n"
Jan 28 14:20:43 <dmart> yes, link it to that
Jan 28 14:20:47 <asac> done
Jan 28 14:20:49 <asac> !info ptop
Jan 28 14:20:49 <ubot4> asac: ptop (source: ptop): PostgreSQL performance monitoring tool akin to top. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.6.2-1 (karmic), package size 43 kB, installed size 144 kB
Jan 28 14:20:56 <dmart> false-+
Jan 28 14:21:01 <asac> yes
Jan 28 14:21:05 <dmart> python* -> doko?
Jan 28 14:21:06 <asac> python is doko
Jan 28 14:21:21 <asac> !info r-cran-eco
Jan 28 14:21:22 <ubot4> asac: r-cran-eco (source: r-cran-eco): GNU R routines for Bayesian ecological inference. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-4-1 (karmic), package size 248 kB, installed size 744 kB
Jan 28 14:21:29 <asac> false-+
Jan 28 14:21:29 <dmart> r-cran-* - looks like false-+
Jan 28 14:21:38 <asac> yes
Jan 28 14:21:44 <asac> (both)
Jan 28 14:21:45 <dmart> !info radare
Jan 28 14:21:46 <ubot4> dmart: radare (source: radare): free advanced command line hexadecimal editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.4-1 (karmic), package size 596 kB, installed size 1332 kB
Jan 28 14:21:48 <asac> !info radare
Jan 28 14:21:48 <ubot4> asac: radare (source: radare): free advanced command line hexadecimal editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.4-1 (karmic), package size 596 kB, installed size 1332 kB
Jan 28 14:21:55 <dmart> !
Jan 28 14:22:03 <asac> disassembler
Jan 28 14:22:09 <asac> guess can be ignored
Jan 28 14:22:10 <dmart> a hex editor with an arm disassembler in it?
Jan 28 14:22:14 <asac> hehe
Jan 28 14:22:14 <dmart> weird
Jan 28 14:22:15 <asac> ;)
Jan 28 14:22:23 <dmart> sounds like emacs ;)
Jan 28 14:22:23 <asac> maybe i should try that :)
Jan 28 14:22:32 <asac> !info rlplot
Jan 28 14:22:33 <ubot4> asac: rlplot (source: rlplot): Generate publication quality graphs. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4-1 (karmic), package size 955 kB, installed size 2440 kB
Jan 28 14:22:36 <dmart> can see how that might be useful
Jan 28 14:22:41 <asac> false
Jan 28 14:22:41 <asac> +
Jan 28 14:22:48 <dmart> yes
Jan 28 14:23:01 <asac> !info root-system
Jan 28 14:23:01 <ubot4> asac: root-system (source: root-system): Meta package to install all ROOT packages. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.18.00-2.3ubuntu2.1 (karmic), package size 26 kB, installed size 72 kB
Jan 28 14:23:08 <asac> x86
Jan 28 14:23:10 <dmart> root-system - x86 asm false-+
Jan 28 14:23:22 <asac> !info rtai
Jan 28 14:23:23 <ubot4> asac: rtai (source: rtai): Real Time Application Interface. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.6.1-1 (karmic), package size 34 kB, installed size 68 kB
Jan 28 14:23:36 <dmart> some arm asm in there... probably needs a look
Jan 28 14:23:47 <asac> whats that? with imx patches?
Jan 28 14:24:04 <dmart> (atomics, pc arith)
Jan 28 14:24:14 <dmart> unless this is a bare-metal thing?
Jan 28 14:24:33 <dmart> Probably imx < imx51
Jan 28 14:24:39 <asac> yeah
Jan 28 14:24:40 <asac> !info scummvm
Jan 28 14:24:40 <ubot4> asac: scummvm (source: scummvm): free implementation of LucasArts' SCUMM interpreter. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0~rc1-1-1 (karmic), package size 3465 kB, installed size 9152 kB
Jan 28 14:24:44 <dmart> (there are some earlier architectures)
Jan 28 14:24:54 <asac> seems it has mov
Jan 28 14:25:01 <asac> search-arm-mov.filt: ./scummvm-1.0.0~rc1-1/backends/platform/ds/arm9/source/interrupt.s:	mov	pc,lr
Jan 28 14:25:04 <asac> ?
Jan 28 14:25:07 <asac> or isnt arm9 what we are doing?
Jan 28 14:25:13 <asac> hmm .. .gues snot
Jan 28 14:25:20 <asac> needs to be checked ;)
Jan 28 14:25:26 <dmart> might need a look... it might be in sound chip cmulation code or something though
Jan 28 14:25:38 <dmart> have to have scummvm working on netbooks though :)
Jan 28 14:25:39 <asac> yes
Jan 28 14:25:50 <asac> !info sdparm
Jan 28 14:25:50 <ubot4> asac: sdparm (source: sdparm): Output and modify SCSI device parameters. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.02-1 (karmic), package size 113 kB, installed size 372 kB
Jan 28 14:25:57 <asac> false
Jan 28 14:26:01 <dmart> yes
Jan 28 14:26:10 <asac> ok seamonkey is mozilla gain
Jan 28 14:26:13 <asac> needs 1.9.2
Jan 28 14:26:14 <asac> etc.
Jan 28 14:26:16 <dmart> ok
Jan 28 14:26:37 <dmart> see - false-+
Jan 28 14:26:39 <asac> !info skyeye
Jan 28 14:26:40 <ubot4> asac: skyeye (source: skyeye): Embedded Hardware Simulation. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2.5-2ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 239 kB, installed size 700 kB
Jan 28 14:26:56 <dmart> Did we alreay have ser?
Jan 28 14:27:02 <asac> oh skipped ;)
Jan 28 14:27:03 <asac> sorry
Jan 28 14:27:22 <asac> !info ser
Jan 28 14:27:22 <ubot4> asac: ser (source: ser): high-performance SIP server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.0-2 (karmic), package size 1488 kB, installed size 3876 kB
Jan 28 14:27:39 <dmart> some atomics, it does use lrdex/strex but we need to check that is actually used on v7, and that it's smp-safe
Jan 28 14:28:30 <dmart> skyeye - a emulator of embedded arm platforms, guess it doesn't apply
Jan 28 14:29:21 * dmart scrolls again
Jan 28 14:29:22 <dmart> I can see the end of the table now
Jan 28 14:29:42 <dmart> sm - looks like false-+
Jan 28 14:30:05 <dmart> !info softgun
Jan 28 14:30:06 <ubot4> dmart: softgun (source: softgun): ARM system emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.16-2ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 372 kB, installed size 1096 kB
Jan 28 14:30:30 <dmart> softgun - false-+ (arm instruction decode emulation...)
Jan 28 14:30:59 <asac> sorry got pulled out ;) ... back now
Jan 28 14:31:23 <dmart> I think we had skyeye, softgun since
Jan 28 14:31:36 <dmart> Plus ser if you didn't note that yet
Jan 28 14:32:19 <dmart> spu-newlib - code looks similar / the same as newlib from main.  I guess we can link the two.
Jan 28 14:32:33 <dmart> !info survex
Jan 28 14:32:33 <ubot4> dmart: survex (source: survex): cave surveying and mapping software. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.39.1-2.1 (karmic), package size 656 kB, installed size 1700 kB
Jan 28 14:32:59 <dmart> some asm code in /riscos/ ... probably doesn't apply
Jan 28 14:33:03 <asac> softgun, yes.
Jan 28 14:34:19 <dmart> synopsis - embedded libatomic_ops
Jan 28 14:35:46 <dmart> (or very similar code anyway).  Link those?
Jan 28 14:36:11 <asac> eah
Jan 28 14:36:13 <asac> yeah
Jan 28 14:36:18 <dmart> !info systemtap
Jan 28 14:36:18 <ubot4> dmart: systemtap (source: systemtap): instrumentation system for Linux 2.6. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.20090613-1 (karmic), package size 851 kB, installed size 3440 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 ia64 s390 powerpc arm armel armeb all)
Jan 28 14:36:44 <dmart> I guess it needs a look... sub <reg>, pc, 4
Jan 28 14:36:46 <asac> yes
Jan 28 14:36:57 <dmart> What does ubot mean by (Only available for [...] all)?
Jan 28 14:36:58 <asac> uboot-imx -> skip
Jan 28 14:37:11 <dmart> uboot-imx - yes
Jan 28 14:37:11 <asac> no clue
Jan 28 14:37:13 <asac> thats a bug
Jan 28 14:37:24 <dmart> Well, I guess it's logically true ;)
Jan 28 14:37:45 <armin76> !info asac
Jan 28 14:37:45 <ubot4> armin76: Package asac does not exist in karmic
Jan 28 14:38:02 <asac> we are really almost done
Jan 28 14:38:10 <asac> like 12 to go ;)
Jan 28 14:38:22 <asac> !info uclmmbase
Jan 28 14:38:22 <ubot4> asac: Package uclmmbase does not exist in karmic
Jan 28 14:38:39 <dmart> looks like false-+ to me
Jan 28 14:39:10 <asac> ack
Jan 28 14:39:16 <dmart> virtualbox-ose - what's this doing with embedded mozilla code?
Jan 28 14:39:49 <asac> dont ask me :(
Jan 28 14:39:52 <asac> needs to be check
Jan 28 14:39:53 <asac> ed
Jan 28 14:40:17 <asac> !info visualboyadvance
Jan 28 14:40:17 <ubot4> asac: visualboyadvance (source: visualboyadvance): full featured Game Boy Advance emulator. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.8.0-5 (karmic), package size 308 kB, installed size 1360 kB
Jan 28 14:40:20 <dmart> visualboy advance - emulator, not relevant I guess
Jan 28 14:40:23 <asac> haha
Jan 28 14:40:25 <asac> yeah
Jan 28 14:40:48 <asac> !info vtk
Jan 28 14:40:48 <ubot4> asac: Package vtk does not exist in karmic
Jan 28 14:41:01 <asac> x86
Jan 28 14:41:03 <dmart> seems to be some x86 asm
Jan 28 14:41:03 <ogra> asac, did your test with build-arm-chroot work ?
Jan 28 14:41:13 <asac> ogra: failed the same way :(
Jan 28 14:41:21 <asac> I: Extracting sysvinit-utils...
Jan 28 14:41:21 <asac> I: Extracting tar...
Jan 28 14:41:21 <asac> I: Extracting tzdata...
Jan 28 14:41:21 <asac> I: Extracting upstart...
Jan 28 14:41:21 <asac> I: Extracting util-linux...
Jan 28 14:41:23 <asac> I: Extracting zlib1g...
Jan 28 14:41:26 <asac> chroot: cannot run command `debootstrap/debootstrap': Exec format error
Jan 28 14:41:29 <ogra> meh
Jan 28 14:41:35 <asac> websvn -> false-+
Jan 28 14:41:38 <ogra> try to reinstall qemu-arm-static
Jan 28 14:41:40 <dmart> wrong arch?
Jan 28 14:41:46 <asac> !info wine
Jan 28 14:41:46 <ubot4> asac: wine (source: wine): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-0ubuntu8 (karmic), package size 7359 kB, installed size 54436 kB
Jan 28 14:41:53 <asac> ogra: will do. does that compile something on install?
Jan 28 14:42:05 <asac> false positive (wine)
Jan 28 14:42:06 <ogra> it sets the sysctl stuff for procps
Jan 28 14:42:15 <dmart> I don't expect wine works on arm?
Jan 28 14:42:18 <asac> same for wine1.2
Jan 28 14:42:20 <asac> heh
Jan 28 14:42:22 <ogra> and dumps the binfmt hgandler in place
Jan 28 14:42:27 <asac> would be funny if it did ;)
Jan 28 14:42:28 <ogra> *handler
Jan 28 14:42:44 <dmart> wireshark -+
Jan 28 14:42:45 <asac> ogra: let me finish this ;) ...
Jan 28 14:42:48 <ogra> probably wine-ce :)
Jan 28 14:42:50 <asac> almost dying ;)
Jan 28 14:42:52 <dmart> wxwidgets* -+ (same x86 code as vtk)
Jan 28 14:42:57 <asac> !info wireshark
Jan 28 14:42:57 <ubot4> asac: wireshark (source: wireshark): network traffic analyzer - GTK+ version. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.2-2 (karmic), package size 716 kB, installed size 1824 kB
Jan 28 14:42:59 <dmart> (only 6 more)
Jan 28 14:43:02 <ogra> asac, yeah, i see W :)
Jan 28 14:43:04 <asac> ah
Jan 28 14:43:07 <asac> yeah thats fals-+
Jan 28 14:43:12 <asac> and the ex thing too
Jan 28 14:43:29 <dmart> !info xenomai
Jan 28 14:43:29 <ubot4> dmart: Package xenomai does not exist in karmic
Jan 28 14:43:33 <dmart> bah
Jan 28 14:43:37 <asac> !info xemacs21-packages
Jan 28 14:43:38 <ubot4> asac: Package xemacs21-packages does not exist in karmic
Jan 28 14:43:41 <asac> guess emacs is covered
Jan 28 14:43:54 <dmart> yes
Jan 28 14:43:58 <dmart> xenomai has swp-based atomics and other asm
Jan 28 14:44:02 <dmart> probably needs a look
Jan 28 14:44:15 <asac> yeah. lots of stuff in there
Jan 28 14:44:31 <asac> !info xindy
Jan 28 14:44:32 <ubot4> asac: xindy (source: xindy): index generator for structured documents like LaTeX or SGML. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3-2 (karmic), package size 2245 kB, installed size 3656 kB
Jan 28 14:44:49 <dmart> I predict -+
Jan 28 14:44:58 <asac> it has mov etc.
Jan 28 14:45:03 <dmart> oh
Jan 28 14:45:10 <asac> rte/...
Jan 28 14:45:16 <asac> that looks familliar
Jan 28 14:45:20 <asac> is that a code copy again?
Jan 28 14:45:28 <dmart> clisp-2.43/ffcall
Jan 28 14:45:53 <dmart> I don't think so (can't find it anyway)
Jan 28 14:45:55 <asac> yes
Jan 28 14:46:04 <asac> !info xmp
Jan 28 14:46:04 <ubot4> asac: xmp (source: xmp): A module player supporting AWE32, GUS, and software-mixing. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.7.0-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 235 kB, installed size 560 kB
Jan 28 14:46:06 <dmart> some embedded lisp interpreter anyway
Jan 28 14:46:12 <asac> false-+
Jan 28 14:46:29 <asac> !info xulrunner
Jan 28 14:46:30 <ubot4> asac: xulrunner (source: xulrunner): XUL + XPCOM application runner. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8.1.16+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 279 kB, installed size 1020 kB
Jan 28 14:46:35 <asac> -> covered by xul 1.9.2 + patch
Jan 28 14:46:47 <asac> still needed (so a bug)
Jan 28 14:46:50 <asac> !info yabause
Jan 28 14:46:50 <ubot4> asac: yabause (source: yabause): beautiful and under-rated Saturn emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.10-1 (karmic), package size 16 kB, installed size 52 kB
Jan 28 14:46:54 <asac> (LAST ONE)
Jan 28 14:47:02 <asac> x86 false +
Jan 28 14:47:06 <dmart> -+ yes
Jan 28 14:47:13 <asac> yessssss
Jan 28 14:47:19 <ogra> whats a saturn emulator
Jan 28 14:47:23 <dmart> The author is modest in the description ;)
Jan 28 14:47:41 <dmart> sega saturn?
Jan 28 14:47:42 <asac> ok saving
Jan 28 14:47:46 <asac> uff
Jan 28 14:47:48 <asac> i think i need a break
Jan 28 14:47:50 <ogra> ah, sega
Jan 28 14:48:01 <ogra> i was wondering about something kosmic :)
Jan 28 14:48:18 <dmart> main() { while(1) be big and round; }
Jan 28 14:48:57 <asac> dmart: did you move the false-positives out to a separte table for main?
Jan 28 14:49:08 <asac> i guess we should do tha tbefore starting to file bugs ;)
Jan 28 14:49:45 <dmart> I made a heading with "Disregarded packages (no further action required)" - the junk is under there.  We can maybe move all that stuff to the end of the page
Jan 28 14:49:58 <asac> yeah
Jan 28 14:50:03 <asac> or to a separte wiki page even
Jan 28 14:50:09 <dmart> For universe, I already made [DISREGARDED], though it is not a proper wiki heading
Jan 28 14:50:11 <asac> to make that page less huge
Jan 28 14:50:19 <asac> we should surely add a ToC
Jan 28 14:50:20 <dmart> Yes, a separate page would be good
Jan 28 14:50:32 <dmart> How do you do that in the Ubuntu wiki?
Jan 28 14:50:41 <asac> one second there are examples
Jan 28 14:51:06 <asac> like on this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam
Jan 28 14:51:16 <asac> so ||<tablestyle="float:right; font-size: 0.9em; width:30%; background:#F1F1ED; background-repeat: no-repeat; background-position:  98% 0.5ex; margin: 0 0 1em 1em; padding: 0.5em;"><<TableOfContents>>||
Jan 28 14:51:27 <asac> guess just <<TableOfContents>> wrks
Jan 28 14:51:30 <asac> but looks bad
Jan 28 14:51:37 <asac> let me add it
Jan 28 14:51:38 <dmart> okay
Jan 28 14:51:44 <dmart> thanks
Jan 28 14:52:13 <asac> ok its on there
Jan 28 14:52:15 <asac>  a bit huge ;)
Jan 28 14:52:34 <dmart> it works
Jan 28 14:52:47 <asac> hmm. let me remove the width constraint
Jan 28 14:52:48 <asac> thats bad
Jan 28 14:53:06 <asac> ok saved
Jan 28 14:53:08 <asac> its better now
Jan 28 14:53:16 <asac> dont think we need a new page with that
Jan 28 14:53:24 <dmart> ok
Jan 28 14:53:26 <asac> just so that the not so releva nt stuff gets to the bottom or osmething
Jan 28 14:54:14 <dmart> I should write a wiki page with an overview of what sort of action is needed to fix the different kinds of matches, then we can link to if from the bugs raised
Jan 28 15:46:28 <asac> dmart: yes, if you can do that it would be great
Jan 28 15:46:38 <asac> we could also port a few different cases, and then point to the patches as examples
Jan 28 15:46:42 <asac> if thats easier
Jan 28 15:46:52 <dmart> Yes, that would be good.
Jan 28 15:47:02 <dmart> I'm writing some stuff for the wiki now...
Jan 28 15:48:55 <dmart> The "mov pc" type cases, and cases where "swp" is causing ftbfs, are the highest priority things for luci, since these may break function calls.
Jan 28 15:49:07 <dmart> The swp and smp-safety stuff is more for future-proofing and some performance aspects (though we should work through these, time allowing).
Jan 28 15:49:16 <dmart> I'll try to explain this on the wiki...
Jan 28 16:14:35 <asac> 17:13 < seb128> asac, can somebody maybe get a stracktrace?
Jan 28 16:14:36 <ogra> hmm, so sqid fails reliably at the same line with a segfault
Jan 28 16:14:39 <asac> plars: ^^
Jan 28 16:14:44 <asac> thats on nautilus crash
Jan 28 16:14:47 <ogra> *squid
Jan 28 16:15:01 <asac> plars: we are looking at the diff atm.
Jan 28 16:15:09 <plars> asac: this is on the gvfs thing?
Jan 28 16:15:15 <asac> plars: yes
Jan 28 16:15:22 <plars> asac: sure, let me see what I can do
Jan 28 16:15:26 <asac> ogra: we want the -save-temps .ii ... then give that doko
Jan 28 16:15:39 <ogra> ?
Jan 28 16:15:39 <asac> guess needs a local build ;)
Jan 28 16:16:00 <asac> ogra: doko probably will probably want a .ii file for the source that causes the gcc crash
Jan 28 16:16:06 <asac> so build with -save-temps
Jan 28 16:16:09 <asac> in CFLAGS
Jan 28 16:16:24 <ogra> oh, ok
Jan 28 16:17:05 <asac> dmart: thanks.
Jan 28 16:17:14 <asac> i will try to adjust priority for the bugs i file accordingly
Jan 28 16:17:24 <asac> making the mov pc and swp with ftbfs release critical
Jan 28 16:17:30 <asac> ogra: so what do you want from binfmt?
Jan 28 16:17:37 <ogra> i ?
Jan 28 16:17:44 <ogra> you want something from binfmt :)
Jan 28 16:17:57 <ogra> check if /usr/share/binfmts/arm exists
Jan 28 16:17:58 <asac> find /sys/  | grep binfmt | pastebinit
Jan 28 16:17:58 <asac> http://pastebin.com/f63420615
Jan 28 16:18:02 <asac> ok
Jan 28 16:18:08 <ogra> and also check for /etc/sysctl.d/qemu-arm-static.sysctl.conf
Jan 28 16:18:23 <ogra> these are the two files that enable qemu-arm-static
Jan 28 16:18:34 <asac> i have /usr/share/binfmts/arm
Jan 28 16:18:58 <asac> cat /etc/sysctl.d/qemu-arm-static.sysctl.conf
Jan 28 16:18:58 <asac> vm.vdso_enabled = 0
Jan 28 16:18:58 <asac> vm.mmap_min_addr = 4097
Jan 28 16:19:06 <asac> now reinstalling the quem-arm-static
Jan 28 16:19:07 <asac> one second
Jan 28 16:19:16 <ogra> well, thats all looking good
Jan 28 16:19:41 <ogra> do you have /etc/rc2.d/S90binfmt-support ?
Jan 28 16:19:45 <lool> asac: It's in /proc
Jan 28 16:19:59 <lool> /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/arm usually
Jan 28 16:20:02 <asac> ogra: yes.
Jan 28 16:20:13 <asac> cat /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc/arm
Jan 28 16:20:13 <asac> enabled
Jan 28 16:20:13 <asac> interpreter /usr/bin/qemu-arm-static
Jan 28 16:20:13 <asac> flags:
Jan 28 16:20:13 <asac> offset 0
Jan 28 16:20:15 <asac> magic 7f454c4601010100000000000000000002002800
Jan 28 16:20:18 <asac> mask ffffffffffffff00fffffffffffffffffeffffff
Jan 28 16:20:20 <asac> looks good too i guess :(
Jan 28 16:20:21 <ogra> lool, last time we checked his machine didnt even have binfmt_misc loaded
Jan 28 16:20:27 <lool> asac: Try running /usr/bin/qemu-arm-static
Jan 28 16:20:29 <asac> yeah. thats loaded now
Jan 28 16:20:36 <asac> (i force it in modules)
Jan 28 16:20:38 <ogra> asac, by running the initscript ?
Jan 28 16:20:43 <ogra> thats wrong
Jan 28 16:20:51 <asac> ogra: no in /etc/modules
Jan 28 16:20:54 <ogra> the initscript wraps a lot of other stuff around it
Jan 28 16:21:12 <asac> guess i need some arm binary
Jan 28 16:21:13 <ogra> check if you have /etc/rc2.d/S90binfmt-support in place
Jan 28 16:21:17 <asac> to test /usr/bin/qemu-arm-static
Jan 28 16:21:20 <asac> what would be a good one?
Jan 28 16:21:28 <ogra> just run build-arm-chroot
Jan 28 16:21:36 <asac> ogra: i have /etc/rc2.d/S90binfmt-support
Jan 28 16:21:44 <ogra> second stage execs in qemu-arm-static
Jan 28 16:21:49 <asac> ogra: well. thats what i ran before ;)
Jan 28 16:21:51 <asac> it failed the same way
Jan 28 16:21:56 <ogra> then i dont get why you have to forcefully load the module
Jan 28 16:22:00 <asac> and since i didnt even change anything i would think it still fails
Jan 28 16:22:09 <ogra> if the initscript runs it should load it
Jan 28 16:22:13 <asac> anyway. i reinstalled the package
Jan 28 16:22:16 <asac> let me try again
Jan 28 16:22:27 * asac runs
Jan 28 16:22:27 <ogra> i suspect its rather binfmt-support
Jan 28 16:22:32 <asac> build-arm-chroot lucid lucid1
Jan 28 16:22:37 <ogra> than qemu-arm-static
Jan 28 16:22:55 <ogra> +you should really use a local package proxy :)
Jan 28 16:22:59 <asac> what does /usr/sbin/update-binfmts do?
Jan 28 16:23:06 <asac> worth running?
Jan 28 16:23:10 <ogra> it enables the arm binfmt handler
Jan 28 16:23:23 <ogra> it runs from the postinst of qemu-arm-static
Jan 28 16:23:26 <asac> ok reinstalling the -support package
Jan 28 16:23:31 <asac> hmm
Jan 28 16:23:57 <asac> update-binfmts: warning: current package is openjdk-6, but binary format
Jan 28 16:23:58 <asac> already installed by sun-java6  * Enabling additional executable binary formats binfmt-support
Jan 28 16:24:05 <asac> guess thats not a prob
Jan 28 16:24:11 <asac> lets wait if the chroot fails again
Jan 28 16:24:42 <ogra> yeah
Jan 28 16:24:55 <ogra> i dont get why your binfmt module isnt loaded though
Jan 28 16:25:01 <asac> ogra: its loaded atm
Jan 28 16:25:07 <asac> havent checked if it still doesnt get loaded
Jan 28 16:25:10 <ogra> no, i mean by the initscript
Jan 28 16:25:11 <asac> will reboot after the chroot fails
Jan 28 16:25:22 <asac> yeah. i will double check ... maybe its fixed now somehow ;)
Jan 28 16:25:27 <ogra> heh
Jan 28 16:25:32 <plars> asac: wasn't having much luck getting a backtrace with symbols yesterday, but I'm not seeing any -dbg packages for gvfs stuff
Jan 28 16:25:42 <asac> plars: we have -dbgsym
Jan 28 16:25:48 <asac> http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/
Jan 28 16:26:15 <asac> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
Jan 28 16:26:29 <ogra> and -dbg packages should additionally be on LP
Jan 28 16:26:30 <asac> there are the apt lines you need to get -dbgsym for packages that dont have -dbg
Jan 28 16:26:36 <asac> not for all packages
Jan 28 16:26:42 <ogra> usually for all gnome ones
Jan 28 16:28:19 <asac> ogra: none for gvfscommon
Jan 28 16:28:30 <ogra> oh
Jan 28 16:28:34 <asac> plars: so yeah. grab the -dbgsym ... also for glib i guess and gio or whatever is involved
Jan 28 16:28:40 <asac> and libc-dbg
Jan 28 16:28:41 <asac> etc.
Jan 28 16:28:55 <asac> but guess you just lacked the ddeb trick
Jan 28 16:29:22 <asac> ogra:
Jan 28 16:29:23 <asac> I: Configuring libselinux1...
Jan 28 16:29:23 <asac> I: Configuring libstdc++6...
Jan 28 16:29:23 <asac> I: Configuring coreutils...
Jan 28 16:29:23 <asac> I: Configuring makedev...
Jan 28 16:29:26 <asac> that looks good, right?
Jan 28 16:29:30 <ogra> yes
Jan 28 16:29:32 * asac thinks it didnt get that far last time
Jan 28 16:29:33 <asac> nice
Jan 28 16:29:41 <asac> so reinstall one of the two packages helped
Jan 28 16:29:47 <asac> so seems something with triggers isnt right
Jan 28 16:29:50 <asac> bad packaging ;)
Jan 28 16:29:52 <ogra> i suspect binfmt-support
Jan 28 16:30:02 <asac> guess it doesnt ship any triggers
Jan 28 16:30:05 <asac> but should
Jan 28 16:30:06 <ogra> since the module was missing
Jan 28 16:30:44 <asac> too bad i reinstalled both ;)
Jan 28 16:30:48 <asac> otherwise we would have known it now
Jan 28 16:30:48 <ogra> or its just that lool broke qemu-arm-static with all his repackaging :P
Jan 28 16:30:52 * ogra hides
Jan 28 16:30:55 <asac> lol
Jan 28 16:31:01 <asac> did anything happen on that front at all?
Jan 28 16:31:09 <asac> thought its still the same somewhat
Jan 28 16:31:10 <ogra> no, we dropped the spec
Jan 28 16:31:18 <ogra> it works, why break it
Jan 28 16:31:30 <ogra> i'D love to see mono support
Jan 28 16:31:37 <ogra> then rootstock wouldnt need a vm
Jan 28 16:32:08 <ogra> but given that this seems close to impossible to fix (its very old and many people tried before) i wont waste my time on it
Jan 28 16:38:05 <asac> ok now for rootstock
Jan 28 16:38:09 <Devils0411> Всем добрый вечер
Jan 28 16:38:14 <Devils0411> есть русские?
Jan 28 16:38:29 <ogra> Devils0411, english please :)
Jan 28 16:40:22 <ogra> lool, did you get anywhere with the versatile kernel ?
Jan 28 16:40:40 <Devils0411> Offtopic. Who knows, what OS in this device http://www.promise.com/product/product_detail_eng.asp?segment=undefined&product_id=211
Jan 28 16:46:11 <plars> asac: still not having much luck
Jan 28 16:46:27 <asac> plars: how does the backtrace look like?
Jan 28 16:47:16 <plars> asac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/364678/
Jan 28 16:48:38 <asac> plars: post that to the bug and say thats best you can get
Jan 28 16:48:49 <asac> what is signal 6 ?
Jan 28 16:49:24 <plars> asac: sigabrt
Jan 28 16:49:37 <ogra> thats not gvfs
Jan 28 16:49:55 <asac> ogra: the downgrade of libgvfscommon fixes it
Jan 28 16:49:58 <ogra> cant you somehow get a gvfs BT
Jan 28 16:50:09 <asac> could be that its nautilus, but for now it feels its gvfs ... especially since that has a recent update
Jan 28 16:50:22 <ogra> no, i meant the backtrace
Jan 28 16:50:39 <asac> well. nautilus links against libgvfs?
Jan 28 16:50:49 <ogra> i wonder if there is a way to rather get something more diectly from gvfs
Jan 28 16:51:07 <asac> for that we need to find someting else that crashes i guess
Jan 28 16:52:02 <Devils0411> That's what I found! / bin / uname-a
Jan 28 16:52:02 <Devils0411> ----------------------------------
Jan 28 16:52:02 <Devils0411> Eval command:! / bin / uname-a
Jan 28 16:52:02 <Devils0411> Linux nas_storage 2.6.20.21-4600 # 30 PREEMPT Fri Apr 10 12:06:05 CST 2009 i686 unknown
Jan 28 16:52:02 <Devils0411> but what exactly is OS?
Jan 28 16:52:46 <GrueMaster> Devils0411: It could be in-house.  Either way, it isn't arm based.
Jan 28 16:53:52 <ogra> asac, well, apt-cache rdepends gvfs gets quite a bunch of binaries that depend on it
Jan 28 16:54:19 <Devils0411> How to determine?
Jan 28 16:55:08 <asac> plars: do you see crashes in any of those?
Jan 28 16:55:12 <asac> evince
Jan 28 16:55:13 <asac> ekiga
Jan 28 16:55:25 <asac> guess you need to open something throw gvfs
Jan 28 16:55:37 <ogra> i guess deb-gview would be an easy candidate to test from cmdline
Jan 28 16:55:41 <plars> asac: will have to try remotely, as the nautilus issue keeps me from getting into X successfully
Jan 28 16:55:46 <ogra> seems a small thing
Jan 28 16:55:54 <asac> plars: cant you comment it out in gnome-session?
Jan 28 16:56:11 <plars> asac: then I just get a blank desktop, no gnome, just a cursor
Jan 28 16:56:34 <asac> so gnome-panel also dies?
Jan 28 16:56:39 <plars> evince works
Jan 28 16:56:45 <ogra> see the reverse deps :)
Jan 28 16:56:45 <plars> does not crash
Jan 28 16:56:50 <ogra> yeah, here too
Jan 28 16:57:05 <plars> installing ekiga
Jan 28 16:57:07 <ogra> i guess until you open something
Jan 28 16:57:16 <ogra> using a gvfs path
Jan 28 16:57:16 <asac> plars: did you open something from a gvfs location?
Jan 28 16:57:18 <asac> like ssh?
Jan 28 16:57:28 <asac> or just with gvfs path, yeah
Jan 28 16:57:32 <asac> not sure about the syntax though
Jan 28 16:59:06 <ogra> i wonder what gcalctool does with gvfs
Jan 28 16:59:40 <asac> plars: maybe using evince file:///path/to/file.pdf ... would trigger gvfs code paths
Jan 28 16:59:48 <ogra> it doesnt even have a file dialog
Jan 28 17:00:12 <asac> evince?
Jan 28 17:00:13 <asac> wow
Jan 28 17:00:19 <asac> o gcalctool
Jan 28 17:00:19 <ogra> no, gcalctool
Jan 28 17:00:23 <asac> yea. i think its clutter
Jan 28 17:01:15 <asac> -Wl,--as-needed
Jan 28 17:01:20 <asac> missing
Jan 28 17:02:08 <plars> evince still working fine, even with file:// path
Jan 28 17:02:21 <ogra> hmm, opening a file in evince complains a lot about gconfd not running
Jan 28 17:02:43 <asac> ogra: opening with file:// ?
Jan 28 17:02:47 <plars> ys
Jan 28 17:02:47 <ogra> yep
Jan 28 17:02:49 <asac> anyway.
Jan 28 17:02:54 <ogra> or with the file dialog
Jan 28 17:02:54 <asac> so i have to get the code ;)
Jan 28 17:02:59 <asac> the patch alone hasnt enough context
Jan 28 17:04:31 <ogra> brasero works fine as well
Jan 28 17:04:36 <ogra> i can add files etc
Jan 28 17:04:57 <ogra> so its likely the way nautilus uses gvfs
Jan 28 17:05:13 <ogra> oh
Jan 28 17:05:25 <ogra> and i can fire off nautilus --no-desktop through ssh
Jan 28 17:06:24 <ogra> so its nautilus in interaction with something that actually causes the crash
Jan 28 17:07:41 <GrueMaster> Are these problems the reason we don't have daily builds?
Jan 28 17:08:06 <ogra> no
Jan 28 17:08:13 <ogra> gnome uploads arent finished
Jan 28 17:08:24 <ogra> there are out of sync packages
Jan 28 17:08:30 <ogra> (the logs should tell)
Jan 28 17:08:34 <GrueMaster> Any eta?
Jan 28 17:08:40 <ogra> no idea
Jan 28 17:08:52 <ogra> its a development release :)
Jan 28 17:08:57 <ogra> people upload stuff
Jan 28 17:23:25 <ogra> GrueMaster, seems the breaking dove keeps imx51 from building, i manually triggered an imx51 build now
Jan 28 17:23:40 <asac_> plars: so you say just gvfscommon fixes it?
Jan 28 17:23:42 <GrueMaster> yea.
Jan 28 17:23:58 <plars> libgvfscommon0
Jan 28 17:24:14 <plars> downgrading by one level fixes
Jan 28 17:25:43 <asac_> hmm
Jan 28 17:26:23 <asac_> plars: all other gvfs packages are up to date? e.g. gvfs-backends?
Jan 28 17:26:32 <plars> asac: yes
Jan 28 17:26:44 <asac_> and have the same versoin as the crasjing common package i guess?
Jan 28 17:27:46 <plars> asac: yes, all of them at 1.5.2-0ubuntu1
Jan 28 17:30:24 <ogra> ok, all gstreamer bits (including totem) are gone from the ftbfs list
Jan 28 17:31:05 * ogra wishes the page would be updated more frequently than once a day
Jan 28 17:39:55 <asac> right
Jan 28 17:40:02 <asac> ogra: do you know who owns that?
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Jan 28 20:51:48 <asac> ogra: what was the url i had to use for the lucid kernel?
Jan 28 20:57:35 <ogra> asac, which one ? for qemu ?
Jan 28 20:59:26 <asac> ogra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/364787/
Jan 28 20:59:58 <ogra> oh, yeah, thats the jaunty one
Jan 28 21:00:08 <ogra> you try to build lucid, right ?
Jan 28 21:00:19 <ogra> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ogra/project-rootstock/trunk/revision/31
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