**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Mar 27 02:59:56 2010 Mar 27 11:07:36 NCommander: suihkulokki: zumbi: lool: http://bit.ly/cRN5ta <- about tegra2 in case you're interested Mar 27 11:31:06 ssvb: ^ Mar 27 11:35:32 armin76: Thanks, interesting, though it's a bit sad that they decided not to include NEON. On some tasks like for example video transcoding, NEON can provide a huge help, and it has nothing to do with floating point. Mar 27 11:36:23 armin76: they probably want to offload all this stuff to some dedicated HW accelerators, but the question is how well are they going to be supported in linux Mar 27 11:39:39 ssvb: well, you've read what they've said about why neon is missing Mar 27 11:41:31 armin76: yes, and it did not sound convincing Mar 27 11:42:27 ok :) Mar 27 11:42:46 ssvb: btw, if you have any test, i'm happy to do it :) Mar 27 11:46:31 armin76: dual-core cortex-a9 - does it survive ltp pthread stress tests? :) Mar 27 11:50:29 suihkulokki: gimme link and i'll tel you Mar 27 11:50:31 tell* Mar 27 12:00:51 armin76: apt-get install ltp Mar 27 12:07:38 lol Mar 27 12:07:59 apt-get install ltp Mar 27 12:07:59 -bash: apt-get: command not found Mar 27 12:08:00 :P Mar 27 12:09:56 armin76: 'emerge -pv ltp' :-) Mar 27 12:10:10 yep :P Mar 27 12:46:48 suihkulokki: what command should i use? Mar 27 13:27:52 armin76: all the pth* and mmap*, I think you can select them from the menu too Mar 27 15:06:35 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/daily-live/20100327/ Mar 27 15:06:49 now we only need a kernel that actually boots for OMAP :) Mar 27 15:07:21 cool ogra! Mar 27 15:08:03 to sad it doesnt boot though Mar 27 15:08:31 DSS2 patches still missing and aufs is broken .... but we'll get there Mar 27 15:08:53 it should boot... is it based off the orignal 500 kernel? Mar 27 15:08:56 (dl'ing) Mar 27 15:09:24 or wait, does it stop at 'Uncompressing... "? Mar 27 15:09:55 no, it stops when trying to mount the squashfs Mar 27 15:10:31 but you wont see that since the output defaults to framebuffer (which stays dark without DSS2) Mar 27 15:10:36 okay, differenet bug effecting me this morning.. ;) Mar 27 15:11:08 the live image needs any kind of working union filesystem Mar 27 15:11:29 unionfs isnt enabled in the current kernel build and aufs segfaults ... Mar 27 15:11:39 so there is no way to boot the image atm Mar 27 15:11:46 but we'll get there Mar 27 15:12:15 next kernel upload should make it work Mar 27 15:12:16 yeah, DSS2 still needs this enabled for the beagle http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~beagleboard-kernel/%2Bjunk/lucid-ti-omap/annotate/head%3A/patches/beagle/002-beagle-dss2.diff (and it needs to be tweaked for 2.6.34-rc2's dss2 patches amit pulled in) Mar 27 15:12:40 right, he is working on that Mar 27 15:13:14 we'll have alternate server images soon, these dont need union filesystems and should boot Mar 27 15:13:37 my main focus was on the live image for now, server is next Mar 27 15:14:37 okay, sounds right... Is there a good way to resync the download without pulling 500mb every new upload? Mar 27 15:15:07 use zsync Mar 27 15:15:22 there is a zsync file on the download page Mar 27 15:15:37 okay, thanks i'll look into zsync.. Mar 27 15:16:49 I was -so- picked over by airport security today. I have both the OMAP44xx board and the tegra board in my baggage. They insisted in looking through _everything_ Mar 27 15:17:23 in your babbage? :D Mar 27 15:17:35 I think one of the ribbon cables to the OMAP4 board was damaged ... so I had a supervisor -sign- that they took it out of a protective case and that they are responsible. Mar 27 15:17:54 It's a slow day a the airport, I think they were bored and wanted to search stuff Mar 27 15:19:39 hey ogra, not sure if you subscript to the beagle group, but koen posted a new MLO/U-boot combo, so every board needs to be updated.. http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/110b417a0ec7b03d Mar 27 15:20:07 ah, thanks, i'll look into it next week Mar 27 15:20:44 rcn-ee : There's also a new release of UEFI for beagle from last week as well Mar 27 15:20:51 we've been testing it @ Smooth-Stone .. it's not bad. Mar 27 15:21:42 All this week, I'm looking at polishing the kexec support in the ARM kernel, and trying for a 'soft' bootloader based on a kernel Mar 27 15:21:53 from what i've seen the idea looks promising... but we still have a lot of things u-boot set's up for the kenrel (ehci power) Mar 27 15:22:12 rcn-ee : Yep, this is why I'm working on a kernel based bootloader Mar 27 15:22:26 that way you can get all the drivers up, and use a kernel to boot -another- kernel in a more generic fashion Mar 27 15:23:28 with a configuration file present in an ext2/3/4, or fat/vfat filesystem (along with boot kernel and ramdisk) Mar 27 15:23:30 well, *if* kexec works Mar 27 15:23:45 ogra_cmpc : I'm ---so--- close Mar 27 15:23:47 kinda sounds like device tree's. ;) Mar 27 15:23:57 rcn-ee : I'm working with Grant .. yea Mar 27 15:24:18 Martyn, well, our kexec experiments in ludic (at least for the supported kerenls) broke suspend/resume Mar 27 15:24:25 *lucid Mar 27 15:24:40 * ogra_cmpc goe afk doing weekendish stuff Mar 27 15:24:41 but I have the code working now .. testing it on OMAP3, OMAP4, i.mx51/515, dove, tegra2 and other arm v7 processors I can get my hands on Mar 27 15:24:50 ogra_cmpc : Have a good weekend :) Mar 27 15:25:27 ogra_cmpc : Yeah, I came across that early. The problem was with the way kexec blows over some registers .. I added a patch that saves the registers first. Mar 27 15:25:45 ogra_cmpc : I'm going to submit the patch to arm-kernel list in about two weeks Mar 27 15:25:56 and I expect this work to be relevant to lucid+1 Mar 27 15:26:01 (next UDS :) ) Mar 27 15:48:25 re Mar 27 15:48:31 airport wifi FTL Mar 27 18:03:24 armin76: interesting, thanks Mar 27 20:46:56 lool: just got a set of git emails yesterday on pselect support landing on trunk Mar 27 21:26:18 rcn-ee: you around? I tried the Lucid stuff, and found it doesn't seem to handle MTD at all. Mar 27 21:26:28 That is, the in-repo kernel. Mar 27 21:28:16 DanaG, yeap, i think i fixed that one.. (cat /proc/mtd gives the devices) CONFIG_MTD_NAND_OMAP2 needs to be builtin... Mar 27 21:28:49 I also got nonworking USB (both EHCI and musb). Mar 27 21:29:25 yeap, that also requires 3 modules to be builtin... i sent an email to ubuntu's kernel-team with a patch for that... Mar 27 21:31:07 fingers crossed, amit will commit the change later this week https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2010-March/009484.html Mar 27 21:31:46 What's new between v2.6.33-dl.1/ and v2.6.33.1-dl4/, in a nutshell? (don't want to read however many hundreds of git commits =þ ) Mar 27 21:32:15 DanaG, some good news: we have a netbook image.. (although it doesn't boot) http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/daily-live/current/ Mar 27 21:32:36 cool, though. Mar 27 21:33:14 in a nut shell, i'm trying to figure out why .1 isn't booting on Squeeze & lucid... Mar 27 21:34:11 Cross Compiled with 4.3.1, 4.4.1 works... Native built in lucid works (uImage)... But the Squeeze and Lucid Deb packages all fail at boot at uncompressing... Mar 27 21:34:48 I'm also wondering about that specialcomp.com LCD board... 480x272 (or whatever the resolution was) doesn't seem to already be in the kernel. Mar 27 21:34:53 i think .1-d5 fixed it.. but the beagle won't finish that deb package for another 4 hours.. Mar 27 21:36:39 Cool, never heard of their lcd... Mar 27 21:37:39 I've also heard of some other companies having bigger LCDs. Mar 27 21:37:46 someone would have to implement that.. I haven't connected any lcd thru the lcd interface.. Mar 27 21:37:57 (just hdmi/dvi connected ones) Mar 27 21:39:36 oh, the other weird thing... the lenny deb package (built with 4.3.x) for .1-dx works just fine, running it on one beagle.. it defintelly looks like a 4.4.x native bug.. Mar 27 21:41:08 oh yeah, and I tried suspend on the beagle... it suspended, but didn't seem to give any way to wake it up. =þ Mar 27 21:43:17 yeah, not sure what you could wake it up with.. most perhiperals need power from the twlxxxx chip which the kernel and u-boot setup... Mar 27 21:45:10 That 3-port-hub-with-ethernet is nice -- in Windows on my host system, it can USB-wake the host. Mar 27 21:46:51 hmm, are audio and/or midi gadget enabled now? Mar 27 21:47:42 audio output from a wave file worked when i tested it, but all the gadget stuff relies on the usb modules being builtin first.. Mar 27 21:49:41 does it work to keep g_ether as a module? Mar 27 21:49:56 And can you load more than one gadget-type driver (such as g_ether and g_audio) simultaneously? Mar 27 21:51:44 it's possible, but once you do that on boards with only the otg interface, your stuck with using an mmc card as rootfs... Mar 27 21:53:20 It's what they do in Angstrom, I've gone in the oposite direction with my debian/ubuntu kernel's as i have the rootfs on a big usb harddrive... Mar 27 22:08:49 hmm, I'm also curious whether gadget audio can do multichannel. Mar 27 22:09:17 I have a USB surround-sound card that goes all crackly-sputtery in Windows... so I'd like to be able to use the beagleboard as an intermediary. Mar 27 22:09:29 windows talks to beagleboard as USB sound card... and then beagleboard talks to real sound card. Mar 27 22:18:03 hmm, so does -1-dl3 work? Mar 27 22:19:32 nope, thats the one that fails at decompression.. Mar 27 22:19:54 i think i solved it in .1-dl5, it should be done in 4 hours.. Mar 27 22:20:56 just watch: http://rcn-ee.homeip.net:81/dl/farm/log/BUILDING-2.6.33.1-dl5_1.0-lucid.txt Mar 27 22:21:38 i tested a uimage and modules builtin a chroot for that and it worked on lucid, so the deb package variation of it shoudl work... Mar 27 22:30:23 Dec 31 16:12:08 beagleboard NetworkManager: device_creator(): /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/gadget/net/usb0: couldn't determine device driver; ignoring... Mar 27 22:30:40 hmm, it seems networkmanager doesn't like usb0. Can't use networkmanager to make the shared-out network. Mar 27 22:45:47 linux-image-2.6.33-500-omap will be upgraded from version 2.6.33-500.3 to version 2.6.33-500.3. Mar 27 22:45:49 weird. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Mar 28 02:59:56 2010