**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Apr 25 02:59:57 2010 Apr 25 10:40:10 NCommander: ping Apr 25 11:20:25 orga: hey Apr 25 12:20:46 saeed: Unless it's a private matter of some sort, you might ask a question generally. No promises anyone can answer, but maybe :) Apr 25 12:21:15 persia: hey Apr 25 12:21:32 * saeed recalls what I wanted to ask Apr 25 12:22:07 persia: I've prepare cofnig file for the fw_printenv Apr 25 12:22:10 for dove db Apr 25 12:22:43 And you want to share it in hopes it gets into Ubuntu? Apr 25 12:23:03 I'd recommend filing a bug and attaching it. That's usually the best way to track that sort of thing. Apr 25 12:23:54 ok Apr 25 12:24:16 peria: the fw config file is board specific Apr 25 12:24:43 does the ubuntu loads the proper file depending on the board it runs on? Apr 25 12:25:30 I don't know offhand, but I suspect it can be made to do so. Apr 25 12:26:09 If it doesn't already, I'm unsure if the release managers would let it be made to do so for release in geneal, but it may be possible to do something special for just the dove image. Apr 25 12:27:46 ok Apr 25 12:28:38 btw, I fixed the slow ext2load in uboot, now it can load image + initrd in just 2 seconds Apr 25 12:28:46 from sata Apr 25 12:39:52 Cool! Apr 25 12:40:57 I was looking at QNAP's server lineups yesterday, and building greater and greater anticipation for something that does ARMv7 :) Apr 25 13:11:03 saeed: ATM, we generate a config file during installation Apr 25 13:11:21 saeed: fast ext2load > cool! Apr 25 13:12:31 lool: great, I'll upload the dove db config file Apr 25 13:13:15 saeed: apt-get source flash-kernel, see debian/flash-kernel-installer.postinst Apr 25 13:13:32 that's what it does for beagleboard ATM at least Apr 25 13:33:58 lool: how should I report a bug for the flash-kernel? in launchpad it's said theat flash-kernel does not use Launchpad as its bug tracker Apr 25 13:35:48 ogra: did you see the changes at ARM/RootfsFromScratch? Apr 25 13:36:18 saeed: You need to report it against the Ubuntu package Apr 25 13:36:37 saeed: From an ubuntu system with flash-kernel, "ubuntu-bug flash-kernel" Apr 25 13:36:38 saeed: You need to use flash-kernel (Ubuntu): https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flash-kernel/+bugs. The easiest way is probably `ubuntu-bug flash-kernel` Apr 25 17:37:04 saeed: pong Apr 25 19:28:23 hi, Apr 25 19:28:41 I'm looking for consol image displayer Apr 25 19:28:56 is there such a program ? Apr 25 19:34:04 Not really, on the raw console. Apr 25 19:34:21 svgalib can do some stuff like that. Apr 25 19:34:44 But that's accessing the framebuffer, rather than the console, as such. Apr 25 19:44:33 and what if i only load the X, can I then load just an Image ? Apr 25 19:44:52 I remmber that on the dos i had some image viewers ... Apr 25 19:51:19 mplayer can access framebuffer. Apr 25 19:56:05 vlc has an svgalib plugin as well. zgv seems to be a dedicated image viewer. Apr 25 20:49:37 I finally tried the beagleboard netbook install today. Apr 25 20:49:44 I need to run to get a flash drive still. Apr 25 20:51:04 jkridner: How did it work for you? Apr 25 20:51:28 Despite the warnings, I tried to partition the installation disk (SD card) with the installer, but it complained about not being able to unmount /cdrom. I thought it might stop me, but in creating the layout, but it didn't fail until the actual install attempt. Apr 25 20:51:52 Going to see if I can find a nice USB flash drive now to use. Apr 25 20:52:03 not sure exactly how that will work. Apr 25 20:52:22 since u-boot doesn't currently read from USB flash drives. Apr 25 20:52:39 No, it lets you shoot yourself in the foot to enable careful aim for large shoes. If you happen to have partitioned the SD card in a way that has an *extra* partition separate from the area used for the installer, you can use that for data. Apr 25 20:53:09 The common method seems to be to boot from SD card with boot options that mount / on a USB drive. Apr 25 20:53:14 it seemed to let me specify one, but the install failed. Apr 25 20:53:19 rotary drives work too, if you're just playing around. Apr 25 20:53:50 if rotary drives were smaller, that'd probably be the way I'd go. Apr 25 20:53:55 just that I'm on the road. Apr 25 20:53:59 The install to your install-SD bit might still be a bit buggy. I'm not sure many people use it, and I think only one or two people are looking at it (and not very agressively). Apr 25 20:54:15 Yeah, if you're travelling, flash is nice and compact :) Apr 25 20:55:15 I did an install once to one of the USB in-plug microSD readers, which worked, which almost looks like you don't have something attached. Apr 25 20:55:42 (although that was on a different board, but similar situation) Apr 25 20:55:58 know anywhere to pick one up near the San Jose Convention Center? Apr 25 20:58:02 Sorry, no. Apr 25 21:00:48 san jose? isn't there a "fry's" around there somewhere? Apr 25 21:01:22 there is. Apr 25 21:01:29 just wanting something in walking distance Apr 25 21:02:16 ah. Apr 25 21:02:34 you could ask google-maps for electronics stores. Apr 25 21:04:54 Doesn't have anything within 30 minutes walk (already tried that) Apr 25 21:14:12 Dang. Apr 26 00:20:34 apparently a 2GB USB stick isn't big enough. :( Apr 26 00:20:57 irony: it ran out of disk space copying imx51 files. Apr 26 00:21:12 well, of poetic interest anyway, if not irony. Apr 26 00:24:41 We usually recommend a minimum of 4G, but I've heard of 2G installs working before. That's a bit of an unexpected result. Apr 26 01:27:23 You really do need 4G Apr 26 01:27:27 unless you're just using base Apr 26 01:28:51 Didn't in 9.04, but that might have been a fluke, or a side effect of a less complete port. Apr 26 01:29:06 (lucid being the first time that all of main compiled) Apr 26 01:29:51 persia : You may be interested in this ... a new piece of hardware arrived yesterday at the office. I can't reveal the manufacturer, but the form factor will be familiar to you (clamshell PC) .. I was surprised to see what it had when I booted. 1330x768 screen, resistive touch, 128GB flash SSD and a quad core A9 operating at 800Mhz. Apr 26 01:30:21 In any case, it's got lucid loaded on it from the factory .. but something that most certainly is _not_ netbook remix as a front end. Apr 26 01:30:25 Can you share the screen dimensions, or the DPI? Apr 26 01:32:16 heh. OK. Maybe you can bring it to UDS, if you're lucky. Apr 26 01:32:24 If it's small enough, I want :) Apr 26 01:32:35 If it's large, just not enough pixels for me. Apr 26 01:33:05 It's about 12cm in diagonal, widescreen Apr 26 01:33:23 Indeed, I'm *very* interested. Apr 26 01:33:31 Stacking the SL-3200 on top of it, it's a bit larger, but only by about enough to make the keyboard more comfortable to use Apr 26 01:33:45 I'll ask the boss if it's okay for me to bring the thing to UDS Apr 26 01:34:02 if I remove all the stickers and external identification, I think it might be Apr 26 01:34:10 Does it have the wonderful keyspacing that the 3200 used, or does it have the annoying "large" keys of e.g. the Netwalker? Apr 26 01:34:20 neither... hard to describe the keyboard Apr 26 01:35:29 Please do ask if you can bring it. That sounds nearly ideal for me, assuming other bits are in place. Apr 26 01:35:46 The Netwalker is lovely, but a bit larger than I like, and the keyboard is just plain annoying. Apr 26 01:36:19 the closest keyboard I can describe is the UMID Apr 26 01:36:23 (but I don't mind waiting ~6 months for retail, to make sure I have the spare funds) Apr 26 01:36:35 I know this thing must be floating around Akiahabra Apr 26 01:36:46 UMID is a little better than Netwalker, but still not enough space *between* the keys for my hands. Apr 26 01:37:12 Yeah, but you'd have to tell me what it was for me to find it there. I didn't see them on Saturday whilst wondering about. Apr 26 01:37:36 This isn't the device -- but it's DAMNED close in form factor : http://www.dynamism.com/notebooks/umid-mbook-m1.shtml Apr 26 01:38:04 Right. That's the same base as the Onkyo I've been resisting buying. Apr 26 01:38:56 Onkyo jammed in more flash (64) and an improved audio handler, and went for the faster chip. Apr 26 01:39:43 http://www.slashgear.com/globalfoundries-28nm-arm-cortex-a9-promises-speed-frugality-boost-1581731/ (first wafer of a test chip .. there were two and the first wafer failed (thus the business card on top) ) Apr 26 01:39:46 But 1366x768 lets me run 2 terminals and an IRC client, which makes me actually productive, whereas 1024x600 is just a bit too small (or too blocky) Apr 26 01:41:29 Yeah, I'm intrigued. I'll bug you about it in a couple weeks. Apr 26 01:41:37 (but have to rush off for a bit now) Apr 26 01:42:02 See you later Emmett :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Apr 26 02:59:56 2010