**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat May 15 02:59:57 2010 May 15 07:13:58 how _do_ you update our qemu package? May 15 08:26:49 Guest83715, so about your suid problem, doesnt genex2fs just take the permissions that are created when creating the chroot ? May 15 08:27:33 (i.e. does it reset anypermissions that already exist ?) May 15 08:35:42 ogra: sorry, internet here is **** May 15 08:35:47 * NCommand2r is on a 3G card now May 15 08:36:22 NCommand1r, i answered the mail, that should make it better ;) May 15 08:36:25 ogra: we can't extract the raw files preserving permissoins without unsquashfs or tar running as root. Its unclear if genext2fs saves permissions as it builds the filesystems May 15 08:36:39 why would you extract anything ? May 15 08:37:02 ogra: you have to extract the squashfs with the preinstalled system on it, no? May 15 08:37:15 livecd-rootfs should just provide us a generated ext3 image May 15 08:37:38 i think you are fiddling with the wrong bit here :) May 15 08:37:39 ogra: OH, that will work May 15 08:37:42 ogra: I think your right. May 15 08:37:45 * NCommand2r goes to hide in shame May 15 08:37:49 nah May 15 08:38:02 was a valid issue ... just the wrong design assumption May 15 08:38:20 ogra: yeah, fiddling with the wrong bits, although if we're doing this on the image build system, we can just loopmount May 15 08:38:29 which solves a lot of headache IMHO, and lets us use EXT4 May 15 08:38:37 i'll write up the spec tomorrow if i'm back from my fathers place, that should make everything clearer May 15 08:39:05 ogra: yeah, I find writing code during UDS can be counterproductive when one's mind is exhausted May 15 08:39:10 for code sanity we should just use genext2fs instead of mksquashfs in livecd-rootfs May 15 08:39:29 ogra: but if we generate the extX image on the live image builder, then we should just use a loop mount and ext4 May 15 08:39:30 that can then keep a similar command structure May 15 08:39:32 */2 cents* May 15 08:40:14 loop mounting will add a new function, using genext2fs will just be a case check and one additional commandline May 15 08:40:15 ogra: well, sorta, we still need a new code path to only download that live image, and then excute the boot scripts. Its just not a drop in replacement (sadly) May 15 08:40:28 it is May 15 08:40:43 ogra: in d-cd? May 15 08:40:43 hrm May 15 08:40:46 let me wait for your spec May 15 08:40:48 i'll show you some code3 next week :) May 15 08:40:51 then it will be much clearer May 15 08:40:52 -3 May 15 08:41:07 ogra: yeah, lets save this for next week, I think we're both exhausted from UDS :-/ May 15 08:41:12 (where are you anyway?) May 15 08:41:18 #right, i'm massively sick ... May 15 08:41:21 at home May 15 08:41:52 carried a bad cold with me ... but dont want to miss my fathers 80est so i'll vanish now May 15 08:41:53 ogra: ah, you have the ubuflu May 15 08:42:00 * NCommand2r has it too May 15 08:42:22 i'll write up the spec tomorrow and do some PoC code for livecd-rootfs May 15 08:42:40 ogra: I'll assist with the d-cd hacking once I understand your design and help test it all out May 15 08:43:18 its identical to the other livecd builds, just that the image name doesnt end with the squashfs suffix May 15 08:43:38 use the existing omap code May 15 08:44:01 one issue we have here is that MLO needs to sit in the first block of the vfat May 15 08:44:28 and that u-boot.bin needs to be in the vfat as well ... beyond that it should be pretty much identical May 15 08:44:45 oh, wait, no ... May 15 08:44:58 we need code for a second partition to dd the ext2 into ... May 15 08:45:15 so it should be a merge of the existing omap and imx51 code May 15 08:45:35 ogra: the issue is that we don't want the code to add a pool or anything to the image May 15 08:45:41 ogra: that needs to be removed May 15 08:45:46 right, i'm talking aboout live May 15 08:46:12 we need a two partition image ... code is in imx51 May 15 08:46:30 but here the first partition isnt raw but vfat May 15 08:46:49 ogra: but the live image still has a pool on it and other files beside the squashfs May 15 08:47:14 ah, right, that will need special casing, we dont want to use the ship seed May 15 08:47:41 or ship-live or however it is called atm May 15 08:47:53 there should be code in d-cd wheer you can just disable it May 15 08:48:02 ogra: yeah, so this isn't quite as trivial as we wish, but we'll figure it out. lets save it for Monday May 15 08:48:44 well, we have all code already, its really more a copy paste job and one extra special case May 15 08:49:11 anyway, i'm off May 15 11:43:35 ogra, you on perchance? May 15 11:43:41 I still have your serial cable... May 15 12:01:58 I managed to get qemu-arm running with more than 256mb internal memory May 15 12:03:00 at least kernel reports the additional memory ;-) May 15 12:06:28 anyone knows a quick check to see whether or not the 256+ mb memory can actually be used? May 15 12:08:03 this is qemu-0.10.6 using versaltilepb on arm with 850mb memory by the way May 15 12:44:01 Hi all. The arm ubuntu 10.04 info is hard to find. Any change that the link on the main pages can be updated to not point at the Lucid info and not the Karmic info? May 15 12:44:40 umm _to_ point to the Lucid info May 15 12:47:36 So, I have been playing with the Lucid netbook install image for beagle May 15 12:48:15 I have the netbook install on one SD and am installing to another in a USB reader. May 15 12:49:07 From what I can tell the installer does nothing to actually set up u-boot to actually boot the new image, correct? May 15 12:50:06 If so I would like to update the wiki page to describe how to do that. May 15 12:51:24 I just don't want to do that if I missed something. (I always walk away while the files are coping. I have never seen it finish. I alway come back to just the purple wallpaper. May 15 14:09:53 > ogra, does netbook install adjust u-boot parameters at all? May 15 15:11:15 rcn-ee, checked latest qemu git tag, still segfaults May 15 15:17:06 well it's consistent.. ;) May 15 15:17:13 :) May 15 15:19:37 * cwillu resigns himself to a future of beaglestock May 15 17:01:15 cwillu: what machine are you emulating on qemu? May 15 17:07:04 Omegamoon, rootstock context, so versatile.. May 15 17:34:13 rcn-ee: I just tried to cross the 256mb memory boundary on versatilepb in qemu May 15 17:35:09 how'd it go? it didn't fail like before? May 15 17:35:57 kernel is reporting 850mb now, and I'm building 'apt' just to see if it works May 15 17:36:21 cool May 15 17:36:27 I'm hitting a different boundary now, it seems... May 15 17:36:40 cpu is 100% all the time ;-) May 15 17:38:21 the qemu-system-arm process is using 306mb of memory already, so I guess it works May 15 19:35:55 ogra : Are you on? May 15 19:36:23 I've got your USB -> RS232 adapter. If I can get your address before leaving Belgium, I can pop it in the mail May 15 21:09:51 * Viduka Discounts!! Our Special Limited Time Offers Up To May,22!!!New BranD!! Notebooks,Plasma and LCD TV's.Buy your electronic needs at our unique prices. Laptop Sony VAIO® VGN-FW590FFD-575,57$!!!Apple MacBook® Air MC234LL/A-695,27$!!! http://www.elplace.com/ **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun May 16 02:59:57 2010