**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jul 04 02:59:57 2010
Jul 04 04:18:00 <lfitz> is there a guide to install ubuntu onto an SD card?
Jul 04 04:18:11 <lfitz> for the sheevaplug
Jul 04 06:01:43 <lfitz> is there a default password for root on ubuntu-arm i followed this guide: http://plugcomputer.org/plugwiki/index.php/Ubuntu_9.0.4_Plug_Computer_Distribution#Building_a_rootfs_to_install_Ubuntu_on_an_SD_Card_or_USB_Drive
Jul 04 06:02:06 <lfitz> also, i can login to the user account i created, but i cant login as root
Jul 04 06:02:36 <lfitz> or sudo
Jul 04 06:02:52 <lfitz> sudo outputs: must be setuid root
Jul 04 06:13:35 <lfitz> ugh, i chown'd everything so i could move it before putting it on the sd card and forgot...thats why that happened ^^^
Jul 04 06:36:46 <DanaG> yeah, next time sudo tar. =þ
Jul 04 06:38:14 <lfitz> DanaG actually im still stuck
Jul 04 06:38:45 <lfitz> do i have to build the rootfs again?
Jul 04 06:38:59 <lfitz> because i basically have no root, correct?
Jul 04 07:06:39 <sechrist> are there prebuilt armv6 images?
Jul 04 07:07:34 <sechrist> heh perhaps I should read further down the page next time. Found one
Jul 04 07:08:27 <sechrist> woah
Jul 04 07:08:31 <sechrist> http://w3.impa.br/~gabrield/data/click.php?id=4 shows php source hehe
Jul 04 10:16:05 <dcordes> hi
Jul 04 10:19:02 <dcordes> somebody has a secret deb to fix rootstock ?
Jul 04 10:22:52 <dcordes> so far it only worked with karmic in karmic for me
Jul 04 10:24:28 <dcordes> creating lucid rootfs from lucid it hangs building iso locales or so (that's in bugzilla for 3 months or so)
Jul 04 10:25:18 <dcordes> not exactly specific to roostcok: getting lucid minimal rootfs and installing the desktop task results in dependency problems
Jul 04 10:25:45 <dcordes> worked around it and got non working usb keyboard in gdm
Jul 04 10:26:11 <dcordes> building maverick image from lucid results in segfault
Jul 04 10:29:35 <dcordes> alternatively, somebody has a clue where to get finished lucid or maverick desktop tarballs ?
Jul 04 11:00:10 <armin76> sechrist: ubuntu doesn't support armv6 anymore, 9.10 is the last release supporting armv6+vfp(so no qualcomm)
Jul 04 11:00:40 <sechrist> armin76: thanks, I figured this out a few hours ago
Jul 04 11:00:40 <armin76> someone from ubuntu should answer those questions instead of me :)
Jul 04 11:01:19 <armin76> dcordes: ogra is the one you should poke about it
Jul 04 11:02:12 <dcordes> armin76: it's armv7 only now ?
Jul 04 11:02:21 <dcordes> ogra: poke
Jul 04 11:02:45 <dcordes> on a side note I considered reporting on bugzilla instead of here
Jul 04 11:02:54 <dcordes> but everything is present already
Jul 04 11:03:01 <dcordes> I am just wondering if somebody is working on this
Jul 04 11:03:29 <armin76> dcordes: yes
Jul 04 11:03:53 <dcordes> sechrist: which device do you have ?
Jul 04 11:04:00 <sechrist> dcordes: kindle
Jul 04 11:04:22 <dcordes> isn't ubuntu a bit 'big' for it ?
Jul 04 11:04:32 <dcordes> did you consider something openembedded based ?
Jul 04 11:04:37 <sechrist> nfs dawg
Jul 04 11:04:50 <sechrist> nah I haven't, I can't replace the kernel either
Jul 04 11:04:56 <sechrist> I just wanted something to chroot into
Jul 04 11:04:57 <lfitz> hi, my sheevaplug stops booting at uncompressing the kernel...booting the kernel.
Jul 04 11:04:57 <dcordes> oh that sucks
Jul 04 11:05:06 <sechrist> well I probably could replace the kernel
Jul 04 11:05:12 <sechrist> but I don't have a serial cable. I don't want to risk a brick.
Jul 04 11:05:23 <dcordes> lfitz: what build do you use?
Jul 04 11:05:33 <dcordes> sechrist: lol then don't :)
Jul 04 11:06:36 <lfitz> do you mean the kernel number?
Jul 04 11:06:39 <lfitz> 2.6.34
Jul 04 11:06:48 <dcordes> lfitz: I mean your entire setup
Jul 04 11:07:01 <lfitz> uboot 3.4.19
Jul 04 11:07:09 <dcordes> you built this yourself ?
Jul 04 11:07:13 <lfitz> yeah
Jul 04 11:07:15 <lfitz> it was working
Jul 04 11:07:27 <lfitz> until i tried to go and install ubuntu :P
Jul 04 11:07:42 <lfitz> i ran debian, now both sd cards stop at the same place
Jul 04 11:07:48 <dcordes> on first look it seems unrealted to ubuntu
Jul 04 11:07:52 <lfitz> yeah
Jul 04 11:07:54 <dcordes> maybe file corruption?
Jul 04 11:08:01 <lfitz> well...not on the sd cards
Jul 04 11:08:03 <armin76> haha
Jul 04 11:08:03 <lfitz> cause i have two
Jul 04 11:08:17 <lfitz> possibly on nand cause theres a crc error
Jul 04 11:08:21 <dcordes> aha
Jul 04 11:08:25 <dcordes> there you go
Jul 04 11:08:26 <lfitz> but i think its unrelated
Jul 04 11:08:33 <dcordes> rebuild the kernel
Jul 04 11:08:34 <lfitz> cause it was booting debian from sd today
Jul 04 11:08:40 <dcordes> copy it again
Jul 04 11:08:43 <dcordes> check md5
Jul 04 11:09:01 <lfitz> rebuild the kernel on sd card?
Jul 04 11:09:15 <lfitz> i just downloaded it from sheeva.with-linux.com/sheeva
Jul 04 11:09:16 <dcordes> I don't know how you build your kernel
Jul 04 11:09:22 <dcordes> you said you were building yourself.
Jul 04 11:09:45 <lfitz> well, heres what i have done...
Jul 04 11:10:59 <lfitz> used rootstock to build a....?filesystem?....then downloaded the kernel headers, extracted them to the filesystem, and the modules
Jul 04 11:11:03 <dcordes> armin76: any clue where to get prebuilt arm tarballs ? I can only find some minimal builds.
Jul 04 11:11:04 <lfitz> along with uimage
Jul 04 11:11:24 <tmzt_> does qemu-debootstrap work?
Jul 04 11:11:37 <lfitz> preferably i would like to default the plug, but i dont know if its possible...
Jul 04 11:11:38 <dcordes> this all irrelevant if your kernel fails uncompressing
Jul 04 11:11:43 <lfitz> yeah
Jul 04 11:11:53 <dcordes> you flash the kernal image to nand ?
Jul 04 11:11:54 <lfitz> is there an easier way to restore the factory install
Jul 04 11:11:55 <armin76> dcordes: sorry i don't, i don't even use ubuntu myself
Jul 04 11:12:01 <dcordes> ok
Jul 04 11:12:10 <dcordes> hi tmzt_
Jul 04 11:12:10 <tmzt_> sechrist: isn't kindle arm11?
Jul 04 11:12:13 <tmzt_> hey
Jul 04 11:12:34 <dcordes> tmzt_: big rootstock disappointment here
Jul 04 11:12:40 <dcordes> tmzt_: did you ever use it ?
Jul 04 11:13:01 <tmzt_> no, I'm just reading the changelogs on my maverick update
Jul 04 11:13:07 <tmzt_> I hadn't heard of qemu-debootstrap before
Jul 04 11:13:53 <dcordes> tmzt_: it is installed on my lucid host
Jul 04 11:16:11 <tmzt_> cp $(which "qemu-$qemu_arch-static") "$target/usr/bin"
Jul 04 11:16:11 <tmzt_> run chroot "$target" /debootstrap/debootstrap --second-stage
Jul 04 11:16:14 <lfitz> dcordes:  would it be wise to set the username in rootstock to root
Jul 04 11:16:15 <sechrist> tmzt_: you reading wikipedia?
Jul 04 11:16:16 <tmzt_> that's from the script, okay
Jul 04 11:16:22 <tmzt_> sechrist: no, why?
Jul 04 11:16:27 <sechrist> tmzt_: because it's armv6
Jul 04 11:16:37 <tmzt_> yep, armv6==arm11
Jul 04 11:16:49 <tmzt_> neither is supported in lucid or maverick to my knowledge
Jul 04 11:16:57 <sechrist> I'm running 9
Jul 04 11:18:52 <lfitz> dcordes:  http://plugcomputer.org/plugwiki/index.php/Ubuntu_9.0.4_Plug_Computer_Distribution#Building_a_rootfs_to_install_Ubuntu_on_an_SD_Card_or_USB_Drive
Jul 04 11:19:02 <lfitz> thats the guide i followed...
Jul 04 11:20:32 <sechrist> so is cross compiling even worth trying
Jul 04 11:20:53 <sechrist> or is there like architecture-sound emulators (I'm thinking qemu but I haven't ever used it)
Jul 04 11:21:04 <dcordes> lfitz: You should download the kernel place the uImage in the boot directory of the filesystem
Jul 04 11:21:10 <sechrist> like a full running arm nix system inside an emu on x86
Jul 04 11:21:10 <dcordes> lfitz: make sure nothing goes wrong during that step
Jul 04 11:21:32 <dcordes> lfitz: check md5sum of kernel inside your SD /boot/ vs kernel image from the download source
Jul 04 11:21:33 <lfitz> well sheeva.with-linux.com has kernel-headers...
Jul 04 11:21:38 <lfitz> is that the kernel...
Jul 04 11:21:40 <lfitz> ?
Jul 04 11:22:09 <dcordes> no
Jul 04 11:22:26 <dcordes> http://sheeva.with-linux.com/sheeva/2.6.34/sheeva-2.6.34-uImage
Jul 04 11:22:28 <dcordes> this is the kernel
Jul 04 11:22:46 <lfitz> okay
Jul 04 11:22:54 <dcordes> get this along with the modules http://sheeva.with-linux.com/sheeva/2.6.34/sheeva-2.6.34-Modules.tar.gz
Jul 04 11:23:07 <lfitz> what about kernel headers, no need for it?
Jul 04 11:23:10 <dcordes> this is the device specific part you need
Jul 04 11:23:12 <dcordes> no
Jul 04 11:23:22 <dcordes> unless you want to compile some modules
Jul 04 11:23:24 <dcordes> later on
Jul 04 11:23:33 <lfitz> okay
Jul 04 11:24:19 <lfitz> so im running rootstock again to build the rootfs, and then ill add sheeva-2.6.34-uImage to \\boot and sheeva-2.6.34-Modules (extracted) to rootfs
Jul 04 11:24:24 <lfitz> err //boot
Jul 04 11:24:33 <lfitz> / boot
Jul 04 11:25:09 <dcordes> if you still have the .tar.gz from your previous roostcok build, you do not need to build it again
Jul 04 11:25:11 <tmzt_> sheeva only has one ethernet?
Jul 04 11:25:25 <lfitz> dump it to sd card, modify the environment settings to boot from sd and hopefully boot sucessfully...
Jul 04 11:25:33 <lfitz> tmzt_:  yes only one
Jul 04 11:26:05 <dcordes> tmzt_: uboot able to mount rootfs ?
Jul 04 11:26:13 <dcordes> tmzt_: just wondering if he needs to flash uimage
Jul 04 11:26:19 <tmzt_> too bad, I might need a voip proxy for a project
Jul 04 11:26:32 <tmzt_> dcordes: what do you mean?
Jul 04 11:26:46 <tmzt_> if I understand rootfs is just a kernel parameter
Jul 04 11:27:12 <dcordes> lfitz: he's told to put uImage in /boot
Jul 04 11:27:26 <dcordes> and I'm wondering if the bootloader can access it
Jul 04 11:27:34 <dcordes> or if he needs to flash
Jul 04 11:28:33 <lfitz> yeah, it can access uImage, its offset at 0x80000000
Jul 04 11:28:38 <lfitz> 0x8000000*
Jul 04 11:28:49 <lfitz> and it reads all the bytes
Jul 04 11:29:07 <lfitz> i mean, the total number of bytes of the uImage
Jul 04 11:29:44 <dcordes> fine
Jul 04 11:30:28 <lfitz> ?
Jul 04 13:06:50 <dcordes> lfitz: so you got anywhere with the clean reinstall ?
Jul 04 13:26:56 <sechrist> dcordes: I'm having weird issues where I can't access the internet inside my chroot, but I can outside
Jul 04 13:27:07 <sechrist> I mounted the various system endpoints and stuff too.. no idea
Jul 04 13:27:10 <tmzt_> probably dns
Jul 04 13:27:13 <sechrist> no
Jul 04 13:27:17 <sechrist> pinging 8.8.8.8 fails
Jul 04 13:27:18 <tmzt_> copy /etc/resolv.conf
Jul 04 13:27:22 <tmzt_> hmm
Jul 04 13:27:24 <sechrist> "operation not permitted"
Jul 04 13:27:30 <sechrist> not dns
Jul 04 13:27:31 <tmzt_> ah
Jul 04 13:27:35 <tmzt_> you don't have root?
Jul 04 13:27:42 <sechrist> of course I have root
Jul 04 13:27:42 <tmzt_> weird
Jul 04 13:27:45 <sechrist> https://gist.github.com/0df5ac2f27bf0c7cfb30
Jul 04 13:28:00 <tmzt_> strace
Jul 04 13:28:19 <sechrist> I don't have strace in the chroot but i'll try and copy the one I have over
Jul 04 13:28:26 <dcordes> sechrist: I have hada similar problem in karmic where I could not user network interfaces as non privileged user. this was native rather than chroot
Jul 04 13:28:42 <dcordes> s/user/use/
Jul 04 13:29:35 <sechrist> straced
Jul 04 13:29:39 <sechrist> added as comment to gist above
Jul 04 13:29:41 <sechrist> O.o @ that
Jul 04 13:30:39 <sechrist> umoven input/output error
Jul 04 13:30:40 <sechrist> hm
Jul 04 13:31:07 <sechrist> so it's a ptrace problem?
Jul 04 13:36:14 <sechrist> oooh it's not that
Jul 04 13:36:17 <sechrist> it's getuid32 failing
Jul 04 13:36:23 <sechrist> wt
Jul 04 13:38:21 <sechrist> oh, no, meh
Jul 04 13:39:17 <dcordes> sechrist: did you do lucid lynx tarball with rootstock ?
Jul 04 13:39:34 <sechrist> nah this is armv6
Jul 04 13:39:52 <sechrist> it's 9.10.2
Jul 04 13:40:17 <sechrist> ubuntu-9.10.2-minimal-armel to be exact I guess
Jul 04 13:40:24 <sechrist> I extracted the rootfs tarball and just mounted it
Jul 04 13:40:30 <dcordes> aight
Jul 04 13:40:34 <sechrist> I didn't need to provision it or anything right?
Jul 04 13:40:51 <sechrist> it's not like I was booting off of it
Jul 04 13:41:04 <dcordes> just wondering cause I have severe problems creating tarballs with roostock with anything > karmic
Jul 04 13:41:21 <sechrist> v6 device running v7 code?
Jul 04 13:41:31 <sechrist> oh
Jul 04 13:41:32 <sechrist> creating
Jul 04 13:41:32 <sechrist> nv,
Jul 04 13:57:01 <sechrist> mystery solved
Jul 04 13:57:03 <sechrist> permissions error
Jul 04 13:57:11 <sechrist> some critical shit was owned by my macbook user
Jul 04 13:57:16 <sechrist> doh
Jul 04 13:58:05 <tmzt_> did you post an strace?
Jul 04 13:58:12 <tmzt_> I think I know the issue but I'd like to confirm
Jul 04 13:58:16 <sechrist> https://gist.github.com/0df5ac2f27bf0c7cfb30
Jul 04 13:58:19 <sechrist> several
Jul 04 14:00:01 <sechrist> dude I am totally apt-get installing on a kindle. huuah
Jul 04 14:00:33 <tmzt_> I think it wasn't able to read either /etc/resolv.conf or other /etc/ file or a required lib because of the permissions issue
Jul 04 14:00:44 <sechrist> most likely a lib
Jul 04 14:01:12 <sechrist> I did a few stats and went doh when I saw the userid owning the files was 503, so I did a find/exec loop
Jul 04 14:44:22 <Jameswstubbs> ogra, Is this http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/mobile/ possible on armv6?
Jul 04 14:53:51 <Jameswstubbs> I'd like to use it for iPhone port
Jul 04 15:14:55 <GrueMaster> Jameswstubbs: The image you are referring to at ~ogra/mobile is specific to an Intel project over two years ago.  It is not arm based, it is lpia (Intel Atom/Poulsbo).
Jul 04 15:16:14 <Jameswstubbs> Hm, Is there a list of the software/configs so I can check ports.ubuntu.com
Jul 04 15:16:30 <Jameswstubbs> Maybe piece bits together
Jul 04 15:18:06 <GrueMaster> Esentially, Jaunty is Armv5, Karmic is Armv6+vfp, and Lucid+ is Armv7+thumb2.
Jul 04 15:18:53 <GrueMaster> I don'tknow what is in the original iPhone.  You might want to stick with debian.
Jul 04 15:19:30 <GrueMaster> At least that way you can have access to the latest software but built for older hardware.
Jul 04 15:19:43 <Jameswstubbs> I've just finished booting Karmic on the iPhone 3g, I'm wanting to choose a more appropriate wm before release,
Jul 04 15:19:46 <Jameswstubbs> Considering matchbox
Jul 04 15:19:55 <Jameswstubbs> But this is more attractive
Jul 04 15:23:18 <gsnedders> The 3G is a Cortex A8, AFAIK
Jul 04 15:23:27 <Jameswstubbs> armv6
Jul 04 15:23:46 <gsnedders> Oh, it's only the 3GS that's Cortex A8
Jul 04 15:24:33 <Jameswstubbs> Yep, i think iphone 4 is a4 or whatever it's called. Im only working on 2G and 3G atm
Jul 04 15:24:45 <gsnedders> A4 is just a Cortex A8 impl
Jul 04 15:25:19 <Jameswstubbs> I havn't looked into, I can't afford one
Jul 04 16:35:38 <lfitz> hi, i can boot ubuntu on my sheevaplug from an sd card now...however i can not login, i followed this guide...
Jul 04 16:36:17 <lfitz> http://plugcomputer.org/plugwiki/index.php/Ubuntu_9.0.4_Plug_Computer_Distribution#Building_a_rootfs_to_install_Ubuntu_on_an_SD_Card_or_USB_Drive
Jul 04 16:36:52 <lfitz> at this section: '  sudo ./rootstock -f sheevaplug -l [username] -p nosoup4u -d jaunty --serial ttyS0 --seed ssh' i set my username to root
Jul 04 16:37:03 <lfitz> with a temp password
Jul 04 16:37:25 <lfitz> and i tried to login as root with the temp passwd and even the default password in that line and it says login incorrect...
Jul 04 16:37:51 <lfitz> since the fs is on sd can i edit a text file such as /etc/passwd to add a new user/pass?
Jul 04 16:37:58 <lfitz> or does it need to be done, once logged in...
Jul 04 16:39:28 <lfitz> hi orga: the README in rootstock fs says to contact you here... or by email, are you around?
Jul 04 18:53:35 <dcordes> lfitz: can you share how you came over the can't extract kernel Image problem ? was the reason you did not have a kernel image in /boot ?
Jul 04 18:54:15 <dcordes> lfitz: ogra is busy fixing rootstock I guess :P
Jul 04 18:54:52 <dcordes> lfitz: are you 100% sure you usin the same password you specified with the rootstock command ?
Jul 04 19:34:37 <lfitz> dcordes:  100% sure
Jul 04 19:35:05 <lfitz> it worked initially, on the first attempt...but when i tried to switch to root i got an error 'setuid root'
Jul 04 19:35:15 <lfitz> or whenever i tried to sudo i got that error
Jul 04 19:36:29 <lfitz> dcordes:  i switched from ext3 to ext2 because i only had one partition
Jul 04 19:36:35 <lfitz> the command to boot is ext2load
Jul 04 19:36:44 <lfitz> so i figured ext2 fs would be best
Jul 04 19:36:57 <lfitz> basically /boot needs to be ext2
Jul 04 19:37:04 <dcordes> I see
Jul 04 19:37:17 <dcordes> so that was the source of the unable to uncompress image erorr ?
Jul 04 19:37:36 <lfitz> im not sure....but i think thats the only thing i changed...
Jul 04 19:38:20 <lfitz> i would rewrite the section in the plugwiki about using rootstockfs, its missing a few words (not meaning to insult anyone) but its a little hard to follow
Jul 04 19:39:46 <dcordes> go for it that's why it's a wiki
Jul 04 19:39:53 <lfitz> but thats not ubuntu-arm... its at plugwiki / ubuntu 9.04
Jul 04 19:39:54 <lfitz> oh
Jul 04 19:39:57 <lfitz> alright :)
Jul 04 19:40:12 <dcordes> I've been asking you so that others can contribute when they read the logs of this channel
Jul 04 19:40:38 <dcordes> foss we are doomed to work toegether
Jul 04 19:40:45 <lfitz> okay, thats a good idea :)
Jul 04 19:41:03 <dcordes> so to get back to your login problem
Jul 04 19:41:13 <lfitz> i will try to write the rootfs from scratch for sheevaplug entirely :)
Jul 04 19:41:18 <dcordes> I've had the exact same problem
Jul 04 19:41:27 <dcordes> with lucid lynx rootstock
Jul 04 19:41:38 <lfitz> no way! :P
Jul 04 19:41:56 <dcordes> it is specific to rootstock
Jul 04 19:42:02 <dcordes> and seems to exist across different versions
Jul 04 19:42:03 <lfitz> i switched the sd card into my laptop and tried chrooting to it so i could add users
Jul 04 19:42:08 <lfitz> but that didnt work either
Jul 04 19:42:17 <dcordes> yxou don't need to  chroot
Jul 04 19:42:17 <lfitz> no exec error
Jul 04 19:42:38 <dcordes> you can spare the chroot part
Jul 04 19:42:43 <dcordes> just mount he rootfs
Jul 04 19:42:59 <dcordes> and copy the passwd and groups etc from your known work ubuntu rootfs.
Jul 04 19:43:07 <dcordes> shadow
Jul 04 19:44:55 <lfitz> /etc/passwd, /etc/group, /etc/shadow?
Jul 04 19:46:36 <dcordes> yeap
Jul 04 19:48:27 <lfitz> okay that works, however it only works for one user the primary user and not the root account
Jul 04 19:48:35 <lfitz> and it logins then quickly logs out
Jul 04 19:48:44 <lfitz> could it be because i dont have a /home/dir
Jul 04 19:51:07 <dcordes> lfitz: what is it ?
Jul 04 19:51:39 <lfitz> um, i copied the /etc files you mentioned
Jul 04 19:51:57 <lfitz> but the /home/username directory on the sd cards dont exist..yet
Jul 04 19:52:30 <dcordes> I mean, you logging in on the text terminal or graphical ?
Jul 04 19:52:40 <lfitz> text...screen
Jul 04 19:53:06 <dcordes> ok it worked for me w/o /home/username
Jul 04 19:53:14 <dcordes> just got warning
Jul 04 19:53:27 <lfitz> i get the default log in message
Jul 04 19:53:33 <lfitz> but then im asked for my password again
Jul 04 19:53:38 <lfitz> username and password*
Jul 04 19:56:44 <lfitz> dcordes:  ^^
Jul 04 19:57:21 <dcordes> I hate roostock
Jul 04 19:57:40 <dcordes> I mean it's not a bad concept
Jul 04 19:57:43 <dcordes> but needs much love
Jul 04 19:57:57 <dcordes> spent way too much time wit it this week
Jul 04 19:58:19 <lfitz> any idea how to get the default ubuntu image back?
Jul 04 19:58:21 <dcordes> lfitz: ask #ubuntu
Jul 04 19:58:24 <lfitz> okay, thanks
Jul 04 19:58:29 <lfitz> thank you for the help
Jul 04 19:58:30 <lfitz> !
Jul 04 19:58:45 <dcordes> the cause of the problem is specific to rootstock
Jul 04 19:58:53 <dcordes> or the arm repos...
Jul 04 19:59:07 <dcordes> but way to solve it is generic so you can go ask anywhere
Jul 04 19:59:12 <dcordes> no problem
Jul 04 19:59:15 <dcordes> you welcome
Jul 04 19:59:32 <dcordes> what do you mean get default ubuntu image back ?
Jul 04 20:08:26 <lfitz> dcordes:  the plug ships with ubuntu installed
Jul 04 20:08:33 <lfitz> but i think i bricked it just now
Jul 04 20:08:38 <lfitz> :X
Jul 04 20:09:13 <dcordes> put your cheepoplug in the trashcan and get something decent like new gumstix
Jul 04 20:15:54 <zumbi> armin76: remember where i used to work? right by us are developing a new product based on igepv2 :)
Jul 04 20:32:06 <Jameswstubbs> How do use apt-cache with rootstock?
Jul 04 20:40:10 <michaelh1>  Jameswstubbs: I've used rootstock with apt-cacher-ng quite happily...
Jul 04 20:40:37 <michaelh1> (oh, sorry, wrong tool)
Jul 04 20:40:38 <Jameswstubbs> Do you just install apt-cache on host machine?
Jul 04 20:40:45 <Jameswstubbs> Anything else need to be done?
Jul 04 20:41:21 <Jameswstubbs> I spent 6 hours making a ubuntu-rootfs only to accidently format my image :p
Jul 04 20:42:13 <michaelh1> What would you like to achieve?
Jul 04 20:43:11 <Jameswstubbs> To not need to download all the dpkg's over and over again
Jul 04 20:43:19 <Jameswstubbs> I might just make a backup of the tarball this time
Jul 04 20:44:42 <michaelh1> Ah.  A couple of options - use --copy-package-cache/--save-package-cache, or use a APT proxy like apt-cacher-ng
Jul 04 20:45:19 <michaelh1> I use the latter and am quite happy with it.  Set http_proxy and /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/proxy to point to the cache and the rest just flows...
Jul 04 20:48:04 <Jameswstubbs> Ah thank you :) I think i'll use --copy-package-cache
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