**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Aug 20 02:59:56 2010 Aug 20 05:07:19 hm, lots of crashes with my xm =\ Aug 20 05:07:24 probably the memory issue Aug 20 05:07:47 but no read only.. ;) Aug 20 05:07:54 hahah, true :-) Aug 20 05:08:23 does it work better if I limit the memory at the cmdline? Aug 20 05:09:05 umm, i've never tried doing that... Aug 20 05:11:31 in your bootarg try half.. "mem=256M" Aug 20 05:11:51 yeah, that's what I'm trying now Aug 20 05:12:00 weird, sometimes the kernel does boot Aug 20 05:12:06 other doesn't even shows the boot log Aug 20 05:12:13 other some random seg faults haha :-) Aug 20 05:12:18 memory issues are awesome Aug 20 05:12:47 yeah they are a pain... Aug 20 05:16:46 ok, now just some cool warnings that were happening all the time Aug 20 05:16:57 [ 0.000000] WARNING: at /home/ubuntu/kernel/ubuntu-maverick/arch/arm/mach-omap2/clkt_clksel.c:375 omap2_init_clksel_parent+0xf4/0xf8() Aug 20 05:17:02 [ 0.000000] WARNING: at /home/ubuntu/kernel/ubuntu-maverick/arch/arm/mach-omap2/clkt_clksel.c:194 omap2_clksel_recalc+0xcc/0xf0() Aug 20 05:17:10 [ 0.000000] (null): no physical address for uart#3, so skipping early_init... Aug 20 05:17:17 [ 0.000000] WARNING: at /home/ubuntu/kernel/ubuntu-maverick/arch/arm/mach-omap2/serial.c:727 omap_serial_init_port+0x88/0x1f8() Aug 20 05:17:39 probably some missing patches all around Aug 20 05:18:40 yeap, the uart#3 stuff isn't in 2.6.36-rc1 either.. Aug 20 05:20:32 rcn-ee: do you know if they are somewhere at least? Aug 20 05:20:40 or it's something we should fix Aug 20 05:20:59 rcn-ee: it seems that it does works fine with mem=256M Aug 20 05:21:54 cool... stress it fully at that setting.. some of the ideas going around, was the chip select that split the 512 in two halves wasn't correctly working.. Aug 20 05:22:20 yep, that would make sense Aug 20 05:24:35 this was the original uart3 fix, it didn't get merged.. http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-omap@vger.kernel.org/msg24695.html for 2.6.36-rc1 the usart changed alot so it needs to be tweaked.. Aug 20 05:25:09 cool, some work for the weekend Aug 20 05:25:17 :-) Aug 20 05:28:40 rcn-ee: does your xM works with usb and ethernet? Aug 20 05:29:35 hm, seems to work now :-) Aug 20 05:29:53 yeap, both usb's (otg/ehci), usb Ethernet, hdmi, serial work... it runs till in run aptitude.. ;) Aug 20 05:30:11 cool :-) Aug 20 05:52:12 GrueMaster: sent you an email, about x-loader and u-boot for es2 Aug 20 05:52:17 you can find them at http://people.canonical.com/~rsalveti/maverick/boot/es2/ Aug 20 06:04:39 morning folks Aug 20 06:10:47 night! :-) Aug 20 06:22:55 Say, I see we're now getting some stuff marked Linaro. Aug 20 06:23:09 I get that Linaro is some consortium that includes Canonical, but what does that DO for us? Aug 20 06:33:21 Say, and what does "flash-kernel" do on XM? There's no Flash... does it do SD instead? Aug 20 06:39:06 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flash-kernel/+bug/365053 Aug 20 06:39:09 Launchpad bug 365053 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "On armel (Babbage platform), kernel image upgrading breaks if Ubiquity is instructed not to install a bootloader (affects: 1) (heat: 19)" [Medium,Triaged] Aug 20 06:43:52 hello Aug 20 06:43:56 anybody there Aug 20 06:44:17 Flash-kernel is also trying: Erasing Kernel NAND space... + dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mtdblock3 bs=4194304 count=1 Aug 20 06:44:26 Is there someone that know a little about Ubuntu that can help me Aug 20 06:45:18 : hi i dont know much of ubuntu but i can help you Aug 20 06:45:36 ok cool Aug 20 06:46:43 you know how with Ubuntu firefox comes with it well on firefox I have lost my web browser and can you help me get it back Aug 20 06:50:52 hmm, ubuntu kernel fails on beagleboard: http://pastebin.com/WTjJgxgm Aug 20 06:53:14 does anyone know anything about Ubuntu that wont mind giving someone a hand Aug 20 06:53:46 GO in #ubuntu -- this channel is for ARM-specific stuff. Aug 20 06:54:34 thanks Aug 20 06:55:16 i want to create ubuntu image for arm tell me the exact procedure Aug 20 06:55:22 can I add you and chat to you again Aug 20 06:55:51 ya sure Aug 20 06:56:05 my id siddharth.waikar3@gmail.com Aug 20 06:56:10 send me request Aug 20 06:56:29 thanks I need to unstall firefox first do you know how to do that Aug 20 06:57:23 in Ubuntu Aug 20 06:57:45 ok run command sudo apt-get remove firefox Aug 20 07:00:13 its gone Aug 20 07:00:53 ok now run previous command Aug 20 07:00:59 I have to restart be back in a minute Aug 20 07:01:14 no not required Aug 20 07:01:25 ok Aug 20 07:02:11 its installing it again Aug 20 07:42:20 ogra: morning, oli, did you guys tested latest daily build omap4 image. Aug 20 07:42:48 it looks like it stops at booting Aug 20 08:01:21 Now if only we could get PowerVR drivers in the repos as nicely as fglrx and nvidia... and if only the danged things had GLX, and not just ES. Aug 20 08:01:55 cooloney, yes, we're trying to find out why oem-config doesnt come up since a week Aug 20 08:02:18 cooloney, i assume it stops at the X wallpaper ? Aug 20 08:04:19 ogra: oh, no, it stops at just enabled the AppArmor Aug 20 08:04:33 after the automatic reboot it does ? Aug 20 08:15:18 let me post you an image Aug 20 08:15:21 ogra: http://people.canonical.com/~roc/IMG_20100820_160409.jpg Aug 20 08:15:46 hmm, seems it doesnt reboot Aug 20 08:16:10 it should actually reboot at the point where it does the "reboot check" line Aug 20 08:16:25 smells like a kernel regression Aug 20 08:16:59 GrueMaster, on an up to date panda image, if you call sudo reboot on cmdline, does it do the right thing ? Aug 20 08:17:52 I haven't had a chance to get to a cmdline post-update. System hangs. Aug 20 08:18:27 ogra: did the latest 903.7 kernel work before? Aug 20 08:18:29 Same as cooloney. Aug 20 08:18:46 ogra: i didn't try daily build for sometime, Aug 20 08:18:51 GrueMaster, hmm, i thought you had a way to at least get a console Aug 20 08:18:53 cooloney: The kernel appears fine. There is something else that appears to be hanging the system. Aug 20 08:19:15 GrueMaster, the kernel doesnt seem to work fine if the reboot command cant execute Aug 20 08:20:05 ogra: I am running the current kernel now. And yes, reboot works fine. Aug 20 08:20:26 I reboot in between package updates. Aug 20 08:20:49 weird Aug 20 08:20:59 why doesnt it work from initramfs then Aug 20 08:26:39 argh, es2gears won't run on the powervr. Aug 20 08:42:40 hmm, so i downgraded upstart and dbus now, still hangs hard if i start p the system bus Aug 20 08:42:44 *up Aug 20 08:50:07 ogra: A3 image works fine. Aug 20 08:50:38 cooloney, yes, we know, can you give me the /var/log/jasper.log file from your broken test ? Aug 20 08:55:49 ogra: ok, pls wait for a while Aug 20 08:58:08 ogra: I saw the same issue that he is seeing once before, but couldn't reproduce it. Aug 20 09:12:39 argh, stupid SGX. Aug 20 09:25:20 DanaG: which platform are you on? Aug 20 09:25:58 Beagleboard. Aug 20 09:26:07 Exit message has been set to: "PVRShell: Unable to create surface" Aug 20 09:26:51 ... and those stupid powervr demos show that their hardware really is annoying... with ATI, nvidia, intel, and even all the various open-source 2D things, you use standard OpenGL. PowerVR? They use some proprietary .POD, and god-only-knows what. Their demos don't even compile on x86_32 -- missing make_platform.mak and such. Aug 20 09:28:35 DanaG: Your best option with powervr is OGLES2 it seems. Aug 20 09:29:22 Anyway, my definition of "Useful 3D" is "Runs Compiz". Aug 20 09:29:34 As long as nothing ARM will do that, ARM is not viable for netbooks or such for me. Aug 20 09:30:24 DanaG: does compiz run on something else than OGL? GLES maybe? Aug 20 09:30:40 Nope. Aug 20 09:30:49 Nor can kwin, I believe. Aug 20 09:55:31 ogra: too bad, i failed to find that log file in my SD card, it enters initramfs eventually Aug 20 10:08:16 http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Meego_on_Beagleboard_from_scratch#Run_the_TI_demos Aug 20 10:08:22 ah, fixed my PVR. Aug 20 10:19:55 So, I got a beagle+zippy, and I connected power, ethernet, USB, and HDMI, and inserted a class 6 Sd with the maverick Alpha 3 image. I get lights for power and ethernet, but nothing else appears to happen (no video output, no ARP registration on the network). Any suggestions on how to debug? I also see nothing on the zippy serial port. Aug 20 10:21:46 HDMI ?= Aug 20 10:22:30 the beagle doesnt have HDMI, there are only DVI signals on the port Aug 20 10:22:46 you dont even see uboot on serial ? Aug 20 10:22:48 There's a port that fits an HDMI cable Aug 20 10:22:52 right Aug 20 10:22:55 I don't see anything at all. Aug 20 10:23:03 its a HDMI port but DVI signals Aug 20 10:23:38 That's fine: it's wired to an HDMI->DVI-D converter before going to a DVI screen. Aug 20 10:23:48 ah, good Aug 20 10:24:03 how do you boot ? Aug 20 10:24:20 you need to hold down the user button to make the romcode access the SD Aug 20 10:24:46 S1 or S2? Aug 20 10:24:59 ogra: You are not relying on the u-boot in NAND? Aug 20 10:25:15 persia, the one that has "user" written next to it :) Aug 20 10:25:16 ogra: This way you would only need a boot.scr, no MLO, no u-boot Aug 20 10:25:35 vstehle, that wouldnt work with XMs Aug 20 10:25:36 vstehle: New versions of both. Aug 20 10:25:44 nor with pandas Aug 20 10:26:09 ogra: Oh you want a generic solution for OMAP3 & 4? I see... Aug 20 10:26:19 yes, thats how our images are designed Aug 20 10:26:33 ogra: Of course; silly me :) Aug 20 10:26:37 vstehle, I'm not sure I have anything in NAND, or I'd expect to see some serial output Aug 20 10:27:00 persia: "old" beagle for sure say hello on serial, even with no SD Aug 20 10:27:02 you should see 40T on the serial port as soon as you fire up the board Aug 20 10:27:28 that tells you "i'm alive but have nothing in NAND" Aug 20 10:27:30 persia: You need a null modem. Aug 20 10:27:37 I still have nothing on the serial port, but I've some DVi output now, so I'm happy. Thanks. Aug 20 10:27:44 ah, great Aug 20 10:27:56 persia: strange you have nothing on serial; check cable & config Aug 20 10:27:59 you will likely run into mmc issues though Aug 20 10:28:34 either it wont find the mmc at all or only have it available in readonly mode Aug 20 10:29:48 We'll see. Plymouth is running now. Aug 20 10:30:03 plymouth ? Aug 20 10:30:15 so it did the resizing already and rebooted ? Aug 20 10:30:25 Yep. Aug 20 10:30:35 hmm, then you dont seem to have mmc issues Aug 20 10:30:36 It's a very small card :) Aug 20 10:30:44 4G is minimum Aug 20 10:31:15 ogra: too bad, i failed to find that log file in my SD card, it enters initramfs eventually Aug 20 10:31:42 * ogra will add enough spare space on the image to make it 2.2G big so people dont get the idea to use it on less than 4G cards Aug 20 10:31:53 cooloney, the log should be in /dev/.initramfs/ Aug 20 10:31:59 during the initramfs Aug 20 10:32:02 Yeah, 4G. I wouldn't do less, after all the time I spent arguing that supporting 2G was madness :) Aug 20 10:32:18 or if you got to the reboot stage it might already have been copied to the rootfs Aug 20 10:35:18 persia, if its a normal C4 i'D suggest to immediately create a swap file manually and swapon once ubiquity created the user Aug 20 10:35:37 (on a tty while the removal stuff of oem-config runs) Aug 20 10:38:27 ogra: if i ran 'halt' or 'reboot' during initramfs, the log will be gone? Aug 20 10:38:56 cooloney, if it went through the second part (that sets up everything) the log should have been copied to the rootfs already Aug 20 10:39:15 (that part ends with the "reboot check" message) Aug 20 10:39:22 ogra, I'm still waiting for something interesting to load over the eye-searing background. That said, how would I distinguish an abnormal C4? Aug 20 10:39:39 persia, you cant, its OOming silently Aug 20 10:40:52 persia, though you could be hit by Bug 616581 Aug 20 10:40:55 Launchpad bug 616581 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "oem-config fails to run (affects: 3) (dups: 1) (heat: 24)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/616581 Aug 20 10:41:37 ogra: I'll pull down the latest dove live when I get back to the hotel and try and get you anothe rdata point on the dbus issue to confirm if its specific to pre-installs Aug 20 10:41:44 NCommander, great Aug 20 10:41:55 ogra, Indeed I am :) Aug 20 10:42:04 though i just downgraded a daily to the last known working upstart and dbus packages Aug 20 10:42:23 persia, just wait until you can hit enter and end up on a rootshell Aug 20 10:42:27 ogra: isn't it nice how easy it is to tweak a pre-installed image ;-)? Aug 20 10:42:31 persia, then you can do the setup manually Aug 20 10:42:42 Indeed. Aug 20 10:42:48 NCommander, well, next i'll try to downgrade to the former kernel ... Aug 20 10:42:59 NCommander, and *thats* tricky on preinstalled images Aug 20 10:43:19 packages are surely a lot easier to change though, i agree Aug 20 10:43:47 ogra: can't you just kick a new uImage into the VFAT and turn it on? Aug 20 10:44:04 uImage isnt the prob :) Aug 20 10:44:21 ogra: and respin the uInitrd? Aug 20 10:44:31 right you need to respin it Aug 20 10:44:48 ogra: that's not super difficult Aug 20 10:45:01 if you cant chroot into the rootfs it is :P Aug 20 10:45:02 respinning isn't an issue, but it helps if you mount the SD on another armel device to do so... Aug 20 10:45:21 ogra: strip the top 64 bytes of the uInitrd, zcat uInitrd | cpio -ivd Aug 20 10:45:30 change the files yo uneed, then repack, and mkimage Aug 20 10:45:31 urgh Aug 20 10:45:34 nah Aug 20 10:45:43 i prefer to use a clean respin from scratch Aug 20 10:45:58 ogra: that being said, the kernel should still boot if its mismatched; we're not depending on any special modules on OMAP for normal boot last I checked Aug 20 10:46:11 Clean respin or same-arch chroot is much better than that hack Aug 20 10:46:17 right, without input devices etc :P Aug 20 10:46:44 "an hdmi port but DVI signals" -- say, how is that even different? Aug 20 10:47:03 ooh, fbvncserver! Aug 20 10:47:15 http://code.google.com/p/android-vnc/ Aug 20 10:47:23 Static one works fine on my non-Android Beagle. Aug 20 10:47:51 Say, now that I don't need Flash... I should try android beagle again. It's a bummer I couldn't find the danged asix module, though. Aug 20 10:48:56 DanaG, HDMI can have lots of different signals, but usually includes DVI-D and audio, and may contain one or more serial channels, and perhaps even an ethernet channel. Aug 20 10:51:16 Serial and ethernet? That'd be spiffy. Aug 20 10:51:37 That serial channel must be how LG makes their receivers and TVs work together. Aug 20 10:52:17 persia: do you plan to be around tonight? I can use your help w/ the libd-i changes Aug 20 10:52:31 HDMI 1.4 added ethernet. I think the serial is limited to Consumer Electronics Control messages though, by the spec (although one could conceivably generate non-compliant equipment...) Aug 20 10:52:53 say, I need to ask rcn-ee for kernel headers... since the ubuntu ARM official kernel fails to init omapfb. Aug 20 10:53:04 * persia refers to the specs for more detail, having only a limited understanding of HDMI Aug 20 10:53:44 NCommander, probably not more than another hour or two (it's later here than there) Aug 20 10:55:16 argh, ureadahead bails on my thing -- OOM. Aug 20 10:55:47 Didn't rsalveti have a patch for that? Aug 20 10:55:47 dont use the netbook images on less than 512M :) Aug 20 10:56:02 I used the "minimal". Aug 20 10:56:03 persia, yes, but Keybuk wasnt available the last days Aug 20 10:56:25 * persia mumbles "We don't have maintainers in Ubuntu" Aug 20 10:56:27 ah, that android vnc server needs "kbde" -- keyboard emulator. Aug 20 10:56:45 Oh yeah, and what's the deal with Linaro? Aug 20 10:56:53 I know it's a working-group of sorts, but what does it DO for us? Aug 20 10:56:56 persia, but we have braches owned by people you cant commit to :P Aug 20 10:57:22 DanaG, you know how you can run any x86 machine with the ubuntu -generic kernel ? Aug 20 10:57:32 DanaG, From my (limited) understanding, it's ARM's linux initiative group doing upstream stuff we can use. Aug 20 10:57:37 DanaG, thats one example of things linaro will implement Aug 20 10:57:41 Cool. Aug 20 10:57:49 Either openfirmware-type or UEFI-type could be useful. Aug 20 10:58:07 Though, right now there's a TianoCore for ARM... but no way to really do anything with it. Aug 20 10:58:10 There's no arm grub-efi. Aug 20 10:58:13 currently they are working on unifying uboot Aug 20 10:58:44 ogra, branches are for people who don't know how to use the archive as a VCS. keybuk wrote a great document explaining how the archive was essentially a VCS. Plus, james_w set up a VCS that auto-imports anything uploaded, just in case people wanted to use obsolete external VCSs. Aug 20 10:59:12 persia, right, but still he is the only one with access to the ureadahead branch Aug 20 10:59:27 DanaG, There's a few openfirmware implementations for ARM: someone just needs to add support for specific hardware of interest :) Aug 20 10:59:28 persia, indeed i could just blindly upload and ignore bzr Aug 20 11:00:15 * persia is of the opinion that folks using bzr to handle packaging and not following UbuntuDistributedDevelopment guidelines deserve the side effects Aug 20 11:03:41 ogra: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/480892/ Aug 20 11:04:12 ogra: this time it stops before initramfs Aug 20 11:05:25 cooloney, WOAH ! Aug 20 11:06:45 that looks really bad Aug 20 11:07:06 i looks like my SD card is not good Aug 20 11:07:12 *it Aug 20 11:07:19 no, i see the same on a fresh image here Aug 20 11:07:20 need i try another onw? Aug 20 11:07:25 ok, Aug 20 11:07:33 * ogra is just done with a test Aug 20 11:07:41 got it Aug 20 11:13:49 oh yeah, I tried btrfs... got lack of fsck.btrfs/ Aug 20 11:15:34 hmm, so doing an fsck on a freshly dd'ed image doesnt show any errors Aug 20 11:15:43 thats weird Aug 20 11:15:56 Hi there. What's a good filesystem to use on a SD card? On my 4 GB card I get 17.5 MB/s read. FAT gives 3.7 MB/s write but ext3 is half that at 1.7 MB/s... Aug 20 11:20:17 http://pastebin.com/zR7pepwM Aug 20 11:20:36 that's my problem with -1001-omap. Aug 20 11:22:30 michaelh1, The best filesystem is one supported by the FTL on the flash card, which is incredibly hard to detect. All filesystems are bad to some degree, as we don't have raw access to the eraseblocks, and are dealiing with a false abstraction of a block device. Aug 20 11:22:51 Say, I'm wondering if I should make my laptop's ssd be btrfs. Aug 20 11:22:56 In general, journalling filesystems are less bad. Aug 20 11:22:58 DanaG, 1001-omap isnt an ubuntu kernel, talk to the people maintining it :) Aug 20 11:23:35 DanaG, again, depends on the FTL Aug 20 11:23:53 So -15 is Ubuntu? Aug 20 11:25:29 But the linux-omap package depends on 1002 (which isn't even out yet). Aug 20 11:26:10 Okay, I'll try 15. Aug 20 11:26:10 surely not Aug 20 11:26:55 Hrm? Any kernel in the archives is inherently an Ubuntu kernel. Any other kernel isn't. Aug 20 11:27:15 persia, we have two omap3 flavours, one is a linaro oen Aug 20 11:27:31 linux-omap is ours, linx-linaro-omap is linaros Aug 20 11:28:03 or linux-linaro-image-omap Aug 20 11:28:13 seems their meta doesnt have a toplevel metapackage Aug 20 11:28:36 * persia doesn't see how linux-linaro-image-omap isn't an Ubuntu kernel, although it's not the default kernel. Aug 20 11:28:52 in any case linux-omap should not depends on the -1001- package (which is linaros) Aug 20 11:28:58 if that happens, thats a bug Aug 20 11:29:05 I agree with that :) Aug 20 11:29:51 DanaG: at least ext4 gives much better performance than ext3, according to several tests I made. At least on a SATA disk. And I have no problem using it on eMMC. Aug 20 11:30:46 btrfs sounds good too. Now sure how mature it is though. ext4 is definitely mature enough (used in our servers without any issue) Aug 20 11:31:49 * ogra wonders if lag knows if there were any filesystem driver related changes in the omap4 kernels recently Aug 20 11:32:02 DanaG: otherwise, Squashfs rocks for read-ony parts of your fs. It's lightning fast. Aug 20 11:32:07 i can fsck the SD card 100 times on x86 without any errors ... Aug 20 11:32:26 but as soon as i run it on the üpanda i have lots and loits of filesystem errors Aug 20 11:32:45 ogra: perhaps issues in the mmc block drivers? Aug 20 11:32:54 mopdenacker, possible Aug 20 11:32:58 ... causing corruption after time. Aug 20 11:33:01 ogra: Not that I'm aware of, but I can check Aug 20 11:34:13 ogra: So I don't have to read all the backlog, can you briefly tell me what the problem is? Aug 20 11:34:25 ogra, do you confirm that your pre-installed images don't support OMAP ES2.0 yet? alpha3 doesn't boot on my Blaze, that's why I suspect this. Aug 20 11:35:05 lag, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/480892/ all these fs errors (which i dont get when running fsck on other arches with the same filesystem) Aug 20 11:35:23 mopdenacker, right, we only have one es2 yet thats at the QA person Aug 20 11:35:33 mopdenacker, so we cant do any development for es2 yet Aug 20 11:36:22 lag, so looking at the changelog of the linux-ti-omap4 package it seems there were a lot mmc realted changes Aug 20 11:39:45 ogra: thanks! That's an issue. We will address it during the call this afternoon. Aug 20 11:40:07 i think the es2's are on their way now Aug 20 11:40:09 ogra: Nothing's been changed in the past 2 weeks Aug 20 11:40:23 lag, there was an upload on the 5th Aug 20 11:40:38 and the first image after the 5th was the first one that stopped working Aug 20 11:41:06 Yes, two weeks ago Aug 20 11:41:15 So something in that lot has killed your build? Aug 20 11:41:45 well, something between the 4th (alpha3) and the 9th (teh first image that was buildable again) Aug 20 11:43:15 ogra: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-maverick.git;a=commitdiff;h=371114579a7d9c313ff76707fbeff39f0a0a4015 Aug 20 11:43:20 ogra: Take your pick Aug 20 11:43:41 lag, well grep for MMC in there Aug 20 11:43:58 Brain grepping :) Aug 20 11:44:23 ha ! Aug 20 11:44:29 at least i see oem-config again now Aug 20 11:44:37 with lots of hacking Aug 20 11:44:38 15 MMC changes Aug 20 11:44:43 yeah Aug 20 11:45:03 it could as well be e2fsprogs Aug 20 11:45:11 there was a merge on the 7th Aug 20 11:46:30 the new oem-config ui looks nice Aug 20 11:47:18 argh Aug 20 11:47:24 no more way to set the hostname Aug 20 11:47:29 thats bad Aug 20 11:47:35 ogra: Take a know good kernel (I suggest alpha3) and put it on the daily build image Aug 20 11:47:46 known* Aug 20 11:47:52 Then test Aug 20 11:48:13 If you are greeted with the same results, it's the kernel's fault Aug 20 11:48:19 If not, blame e2fsprogs Aug 20 11:49:17 lag, yeah, its just not that easy :P Aug 20 11:49:26 ogra: Why isn't it? Aug 20 11:49:37 initrd Aug 20 11:49:40 right Aug 20 11:49:52 Rebuild that too Aug 20 11:50:00 Do you want me to rebuild it for you? Aug 20 11:50:01 i need to test on a virgin image Aug 20 11:50:16 which means it is tricky to get exactly all the changes into the initrd Aug 20 11:50:30 * lag chuckles "virgin" Aug 20 11:50:54 Do you have any better ideas? Aug 20 11:51:28 not really Aug 20 11:51:34 :) Aug 20 11:51:39 but i'm trying all other opportunities first :) Aug 20 11:51:58 and additionally i just got oem-config up so i have to finish that install Aug 20 11:53:47 k Aug 20 11:55:48 ogra: do you have documentation for building your pre-installed images? Our plans are to make such images for our next internal release. Aug 20 11:56:47 mopdenacker: dd and go Aug 20 11:56:53 mopdenacker, not yet and the last two weeks i was held up due to the non-booting images its on my TODO to provide such docs Aug 20 11:57:38 ogra: I understand. Thanks. Do the images boot now? Aug 20 11:57:45 not really Aug 20 11:57:56 i have hacked around some issues though Aug 20 11:58:19 but they dont resize the filesystem properly due to all these FS errors Aug 20 11:58:21 lag: I wish it was that easy... At least you need to make the installer start... Aug 20 11:58:30 and there are odd things going on in oem-config Aug 20 11:58:41 * ogra takes a break Aug 20 11:58:51 ogra: I have some scripts that may help you create your initrd file if that's the route you decide to go Aug 20 11:59:21 ogra, The test-build for the pulse stuff isn7t going to complete before I lose track: I'll send you a patch tomorrow. Aug 20 11:59:35 mopdenacker: How do you mean? Aug 20 12:00:07 If you're talking about the Panda/Beagleboard all you have to do is dd the image onto an SD card and put it in Aug 20 12:00:13 The rest is automated Aug 20 12:00:35 lag: Yes, but there are a few special things to do: Aug 20 12:00:45 mopdenacker: There are? Aug 20 12:00:48 lag: - create an image that's just the size that you need. Aug 20 12:00:59 (and not the size of the sd card you used) Aug 20 12:01:22 The installer re-sizes the card for you Aug 20 12:01:30 Wrong: The image Aug 20 12:01:30 - modify the rootfs so that the installer starts and does its job (configure the TZ, create the user, choose the login mode). Aug 20 12:01:40 A standard image would just boot. Aug 20 12:01:50 without starting the installer. Aug 20 12:02:37 oh yeah, something I found on the rcn-ee maverick minimal: it left dhcp-client-identifier set to "d-i". Aug 20 12:02:48 The TZ and user creation is done via an intuitive GUI Aug 20 12:02:57 lag: I'm taking the developer point of view. If I use a 4 GB SD card for development, my image will be 4 GB big, and will contain plenty of unused blocks at the end. Aug 20 12:03:19 mopdenacker: Ah, I see Aug 20 12:03:37 lag: Yes, no issue from the user perspective ;-) Aug 20 12:03:51 mopdenacker: You just make the image as small as you can <2GB Aug 20 12:04:02 that's why I need Oliver's doc Aug 20 12:04:07 mopdenacker: Make the installer probe the card and re-size on first boot Aug 20 12:04:33 I didn't realise Oliver was creating a doc from the developer's angle Aug 20 12:04:40 ogra: When it's ready can you CC me? Aug 20 12:05:24 morning rcn-ee Aug 20 12:05:49 morning kblin.. Aug 20 12:05:52 mopdenacker: Nice pic :) http://opdenacker.org/images/michael_opdenacker.jpg Aug 20 12:05:58 rcn-ee: 6th lucky Aug 20 12:06:04 rcn-ee: I have everything crossed for you! Aug 20 12:06:10 (05:01:41 AM) DanaG: oh yeah, something I found on the rcn-ee maverick minimal: it left dhcp-client-identifier set to "d-i". Aug 20 12:06:25 yeap luckly number 6.. time to ship it.. ;) Aug 20 12:06:30 Oh, and one thing I'm using the user-button function for: Aug 20 12:06:42 alt-boot will load uImage.alt and uInitrd.alt. Aug 20 12:07:33 kblin, are you still working on the multi node arm setup? I think a couple users on this list would be interested in setting up big arm farms build building.. ;) Aug 20 12:07:46 Oh, and that android vnc server works fine with non-android ARM! Aug 20 12:10:32 lag now that those patches will be merged, there's a couple old bugs we can tackle, like actually setting up the usb on the C4.. (currently u-boot sets that up..) Aug 20 12:11:07 rcn-ee: I can't help you with that one Aug 20 12:11:17 * lag only has Panda & XM Aug 20 12:11:47 rcn-ee: I was mostly looking at multi-node storage so far Aug 20 12:12:01 c4 is all I have. Aug 20 12:12:01 i think the XM has the same issue, although the older u-boot's that don't set the USB won't boot it.. ;) Aug 20 12:12:05 rcn-ee: but a working distcc setup is on my todo list Aug 20 12:12:05 But I'm really interested in that panda. Aug 20 12:12:15 rcn-ee: Who's Jarkko Aug 20 12:12:44 I'm not really sure, he either works for TI or Nokia.. Aug 20 12:12:51 say, how stable is btrfs? Will it at least not silently corrupt things when approaching full? Aug 20 12:13:04 lag: rcn-ee: ex-Nokia, audio driver maintainer Aug 20 12:13:24 DanaG: dunno, just installed my first maverick VMs with brtfs Aug 20 12:13:30 amitk: Thanks Aug 20 12:13:38 will stress them a little the following days Aug 20 12:13:49 lag: got a message for him? :) Aug 20 12:14:27 Specifically, SSD optimizations are what I want. Aug 20 12:15:07 wow, btrfs actually makes my dog-slow cruzer not dog-slow. Aug 20 12:15:16 amitk: Why? Are you having lunch with him? ;) Aug 20 12:16:08 lag: i will, next week :-p Aug 20 12:16:40 or I can ask him to get onto irc if you need to chat Aug 20 12:17:59 amitk: I don't - I just saw that he was helping Robert to upstream his patches Aug 20 12:18:27 rcn-ee needs lots of help ;) Aug 20 12:18:37 * lag hopes Robert can take a joke :D Aug 20 12:19:19 lol Aug 20 12:21:26 just a little.. .;) i was looking at a coupe other board-omap3* files (such as the touchbook) and it looks like it has the same bug.. (wrong setup wp's..) Aug 20 12:22:05 rcn-ee: Are we talking about USB again? Aug 20 12:22:34 The patches you've just submitted? Aug 20 12:23:00 this is the 'ro' bug on the mmc that my patches fixed for the beagle.. if i'm write, the touchbook will have the same issue if you boot it with 2.6.35.. Aug 20 12:24:11 persia: ping - bug 616581 started after alpha 3. Aug 20 12:24:13 Launchpad bug 616581 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "oem-config fails to run (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 459)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/616581 Aug 20 12:25:26 ^^^ i've always had to run with atleast 50Mb of swap, no matter the amount of ram.. (128/256/512) Aug 20 12:25:36 rcn-ee: I'm assuming you don't have the HW to test? Aug 20 12:26:52 i do.. ;) bug i'm missing other touchbook patches so i haven't booted my own kernel yet.. but you guys (ogra) had it working for lucid, so you might run into a 'ro' bug, depending on the logic of pin 23.. Aug 20 12:27:13 rcn-ee, i had only the upstream dev kernel working Aug 20 12:27:20 (ai upstream i mean) Aug 20 12:27:27 which iirc was 2.6.32 or so Aug 20 12:28:19 okay, cool wasn't sure on which kernel you used... Aug 20 12:28:46 it never worked (or even booted) with anything else than the ai kernel trees Aug 20 12:33:01 ogra: I tested your -alpha3 pre-installed image on the Beagle RevC2 (256 MB of RAM). UNE us hardly usable. Not enough RAM, I would say.... Aug 20 12:34:05 Hi robclark! Did you find a Panda (board)? Aug 20 12:34:24 Don't hesitate to ask me to test stuff if it can help... Aug 20 12:34:50 mopdenacker: no not yet.. still trying to debug other issue on LCD/blaze.. Aug 20 12:34:57