**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Sep 01 02:59:57 2010 Sep 01 07:50:51 morning Sep 01 11:29:50 * ogra glares at the kernel mailing list Sep 01 11:30:06 This patchset enables full support for the 22-inch 3M touchscreen. The Sep 01 11:30:07 controller handles up to 60 fingers, and this version can do at least Sep 01 11:30:07 20 fingers. Sep 01 11:30:29 * ogra wonders if they also have a geneitc patch for humans to actually grow 60 fingers Sep 01 11:32:48 ogra: I heard them mention something about a camping expedition to a nukular dump Sep 01 11:32:57 lol Sep 01 11:37:04 there is an assumption there that there is only one user Sep 01 11:39:30 well, how much of teh display will you be able to see on 22 inch having 6 persons putting all ten fingers in ? Sep 01 11:39:51 22inch is big enough for RPG games to be played on Sep 01 11:53:02 Who has their ES2.0 to hand? Sep 01 11:54:42 ogra: rsalveti: GrueMaster: Sep 01 12:00:03 i do but i'm busy beta testing today Sep 01 12:00:16 i.e. i wont boot it today Sep 01 12:02:46 lag, what info do you need for failing suspend (/me is about to write a bug but there is no trace of info in any logs it seems) Sep 01 12:07:19 Just tell me how I can re-create it Sep 01 12:07:32 My query was on the same lines Sep 01 12:07:44 Have you tried to shut it down - then reboot it again? Sep 01 12:08:12 it wont shut down with the current kernel since it cant deconfgure the NIC Sep 01 12:08:52 So you'd expect this kind of thing on re-bootup would you? http://paste.ubuntu.com/486626/ Sep 01 12:09:02 lag, to recreate, just click on the shutdown icon in the panel and select susped ... you will only get a gnome-screensaver password prompt Sep 01 12:09:32 ogra: Can you use the prompt to re-login? Sep 01 12:09:45 sure Sep 01 12:09:53 Okay Sep 01 12:09:55 it just behaves like a locked screen Sep 01 12:10:16 (pm-utils enforces gnome-screensaver --lock before telling the kernel to suspend) Sep 01 12:10:27 And when you check the logs, nothing new is in there? Sep 01 12:11:16 nope Sep 01 12:11:27 k Sep 01 12:11:48 Did you check my paste? Sep 01 12:11:56 i see a message abot the screensaver lock dialog having come up, but nothing between that and the last messages from booting Sep 01 12:12:02 yes, looks bad Sep 01 12:12:26 which kernel is that ? Sep 01 12:12:32 i am playing with an IGEPv2 board, it does not suspend for me, do you have an idea if PM works fine on such target? Sep 01 12:12:35 the one in the archive or a special build ? Sep 01 12:12:41 rsalveti's Sep 01 12:12:56 zumbi_, sadly no, might be a kernel issue Sep 01 12:13:03 Oh wait Sep 01 12:13:22 You're Beta testing ES1.0? Sep 01 12:13:35 lag, yep Sep 01 12:13:44 ogra: I can't help you with your suspend issue Sep 01 12:13:49 lag, ?? Sep 01 12:14:23 lag, i suspect there is a config option missing in our kernel, normally you would at least see *some* message Sep 01 12:14:27 My Panda's are borked Sep 01 12:14:49 I can have a look Sep 01 12:14:57 that would be nice Sep 01 12:15:17 i'll try to tickle some more debug output out of pm-utils later Sep 01 12:15:38 beyond that and an ubuntuone crash the omap4 image looks fine though :) Sep 01 12:16:56 do: pm-suspend PM_DEBUG=1 Sep 01 12:17:27 will do Sep 01 12:17:45 persia, got any interest to work on bug 613612 ? Sep 01 12:17:46 Launchpad bug 613612 in ubuntu-netbook-efl-default-settings (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "Favorites missing from netbook-launcher-efl (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/613612 Sep 01 12:22:05 lag, filed bug 628029 for now Sep 01 12:22:06 Launchpad bug 628029 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "[maverick] panda ES1.0 does not suspend on beta image (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628029 Sep 01 12:22:47 * ogra submits http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/4495/696 :) Sep 01 12:24:21 lag, in your paste, the first issue it shows is sound related, i think there was some work going on to include ASoC fixes we are missing yet ( lrg might be able to tell you more ) Sep 01 12:24:52 could well be that the subsequent oopses are just fallout of thet Sep 01 12:24:54 *that Sep 01 12:25:20 Could well be Sep 01 12:25:34 I'll touch base with lrg Sep 01 12:25:38 What time is he normally in? Sep 01 12:26:12 he is in the UK, normally he is here during our workday Sep 01 12:26:31 no idea why he isnt atm, XorA|gone might know ... but he seems to be gone :) Sep 01 12:26:58 lrg is UK timezone Sep 01 12:27:06 but he has ADSL problems at moment Sep 01 12:27:54 * ogra takes a break Sep 01 12:29:53 ogra: It looks like our ti-omap4 branch has been upgraded to 2.6.35 Sep 01 12:30:22 if thats ASoC issues on panda lrg isnt looking at that board at the moment Sep 01 12:30:35 buest bug prpplague and other board bringup dudes Sep 01 12:30:35 XorA: Thanks for the info Sep 01 12:31:56 lrg is working on 4430sdp so if you can repeat it on that Sep 01 12:32:56 ogra: This answer your question: debian.ti-omap4/config/config.common.ubuntu:# CONFIG_PM is not set **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Sep 01 12:36:30 2010 Sep 01 12:36:38 ericm|ubuntu: would you care to look at http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1027380/focus=34838? It affects pxa3xx_defconfig Sep 01 12:36:58 ukleinek, ok Sep 01 12:38:47 ukleinek, how's it going to affect pxa3xx_defconfig? Sep 01 12:38:52 ericm|ubuntu: thanks Sep 01 12:39:21 ericm|ubuntu: pxa3xx_defconfigs currently has NFS_V4 but not CRYPTO so it fails to build Sep 01 12:40:19 ukleinek, would your patch finally include fix to that, I guess it would be better to include then? Sep 01 12:41:55 ericm|ubuntu: -ENOPARSE Sep 01 12:42:54 ukleinek, heh Sep 01 12:43:12 ukleinek, guess a simple fix would to have CRYTO selected in pxa3xx_defconfig? Sep 01 12:43:24 ukleinek, and I doubt only pxa3xx_defconfig has this issue Sep 01 12:43:43 ericm|ubuntu: there are many symbols that select CRYPTO Sep 01 12:44:12 ericm|ubuntu: see my mail, only mx1, pxa3xx, qil-a9260, usb-a9260 and usb-a9263 are affected Sep 01 12:44:38 ukleinek, so will you include fix to these _defconfig(s)? Sep 01 12:44:45 ericm|ubuntu: no need to Sep 01 12:45:43 ericm|ubuntu: I really wonder about how many people understand these defconfig targets wrong Sep 01 12:46:23 Trond Myklebust though the defconfigs need fixing, too Sep 01 12:46:46 s/though/thought/ Sep 01 12:47:47 where can i find info on unity and anataya? Sep 01 12:47:52 ukleinek, what is a proper fix? Sep 01 12:49:51 ericm|ubuntu: my patch Sep 01 12:50:46 ukleinek, ah I see Sep 01 12:51:49 ukleinek, so it looks nothing needs to be done at pxa3xx_ side, no testing building/run even needed, the patch looks right to me Sep 01 12:52:56 ericm|ubuntu: the only thing you can do is seeing that pxa3xx is broken Sep 01 12:53:00 (http://armlinux.simtec.co.uk/kautobuild/2.6.36-rc3/pxa3xx_defconfig/zimage.log) Sep 01 12:53:14 and see it fixed with my patch Sep 01 12:53:52 ukleinek, cool Sep 01 12:55:19 ukleinek, thanks Sep 01 13:56:05 lag, yeah, it has been upgraded to .35 but not been uploaded (since it defaults to ES2 which we cant use in beta yet) ... mind reporting the missing option on bug 628029 ? Sep 01 13:56:06 Launchpad bug 628029 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "[maverick] panda ES1.0 does not suspend on beta image (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628029 Sep 01 13:58:06 Why have you made it incomplete? Sep 01 13:59:03 because it needs info Sep 01 13:59:37 (you asked for pm debug logs, remember ?) Sep 01 14:00:27 ogra: I didn't Sep 01 14:00:46 do: pm-suspend PM_DEBUG=1 Sep 01 14:01:06 For your info Sep 01 14:01:09 thus my second comment on the bug and the marking as incomplete Sep 01 14:01:16 Anyway, it's not a problem Sep 01 14:01:21 I've changed it Sep 01 14:01:27 I'll make a kernel for you to test Sep 01 14:01:31 ah, nice Sep 01 14:01:52 lag, slow down Sep 01 14:02:02 lag, lets better revisit it with ES2 Sep 01 14:02:09 after beta Sep 01 14:02:36 So you don't need it for Beta? Sep 01 14:02:38 Fine Sep 01 14:02:48 I'll concentrate on ES2 Sep 01 14:03:11 right, its just a remonder that we check it again after beta on ES2 Sep 01 14:03:15 *reminder Sep 01 14:03:36 it surely has to work but i dont want to put more work than necessary into ES1 now Sep 01 14:04:34 Fine by me Sep 01 14:04:44 I've assigned myself anyway Sep 01 14:05:00 cool Sep 01 15:16:15 prpplague: Pounce! Sep 01 15:17:02 prpplague: http://paste.ubuntu.com/486626/ Sep 01 15:17:10 * prpplague looks Sep 01 15:17:48 lag: you need some updated pulse and alsa config files Sep 01 15:18:13 Are they in our builds currently? Sep 01 15:18:33 i do not know, let me forward them to you Sep 01 15:18:41 k Sep 01 15:18:47 * prpplague checks to see if he has lag's email Sep 01 15:18:50 prpplague, kernel configs ? Sep 01 15:19:03 ogra: no state files Sep 01 15:19:34 ogra's problem :) Sep 01 15:19:40 lag, ?? Sep 01 15:20:24 Sounds like userspace to me :) Sep 01 15:20:25 * ogra doesnt get how pulse configs can prevent kernel oopses before pulse can even run Sep 01 15:21:29 lag, oops on kernel init cant be userspace :) Sep 01 15:21:48 My teflon shoulders not working today! Sep 01 15:21:49 Fail Sep 01 15:22:39 prpplague: ? Sep 01 15:23:46 i thought the log showed that it was already booted Sep 01 15:23:50 * prpplague checks the log again Sep 01 15:24:26 prpplague, pulse only starts with the desktop on ubuntu, no way that can have any effect here Sep 01 15:26:19 ogra: yea, my bad, i saw there that the mmc section had detected the partitions, on first look i assumed that the root fs had booted Sep 01 15:26:30 lag: which kernel are you using? Sep 01 15:26:44 lag: that doesn't look like the L24.9 audio configuration for the panda Sep 01 15:27:06 It should be L24.9 Sep 01 15:27:25 lag, i think we're one version behind TI Sep 01 15:27:39 This is L24.9 Sep 01 15:27:55 * ogra saw some discussion about having to backport ASoC fixes from the TI branch to the ubuntu one last week Sep 01 15:28:01 prpplague: Give me a sha id to look up in the log to confirm Sep 01 15:29:14 lag: http://dev.omapzoom.org/?p=integration/kernel-omap4.git;a=summary Sep 01 15:29:24 lag: you can check the tags/id's there Sep 01 15:29:37 lag: but anything about L24.9 should be functional Sep 01 15:31:44 prpplague: http://paste.ubuntu.com/486816/ Sep 01 15:33:01 prpplague: http://paste.ubuntu.com/486817/ Sep 01 15:33:25 prpplague: Looks fairly up-to-date to me Sep 01 15:33:46 one sec, let me check the git repo Sep 01 15:34:31 prpplague: This is the one I'm currently using: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=rsalveti/ubuntu-maverick.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/rsalveti-ti-omap4-es2 Sep 01 15:34:59 ogra: oem-config crashed on panda for me. 20100901 image. Sep 01 15:36:04 GrueMaster, hmm, worked fine here Sep 01 15:36:19 XM doesnt boot with MMC errors for me :/ Sep 01 15:39:15 lag: checking the git repo now Sep 01 15:39:20 lag: give me a minute or two Sep 01 15:39:39 np Sep 01 15:41:49 lag: looks like in the merge/rebase something has gotten broken, the L24.9 works fine, but it looks like the ubuntu integration tree is broken Sep 01 15:41:58 lag: give me about 5 minutes to look it over Sep 01 15:42:06 np Sep 01 15:43:40 lag, any reason you dont use the kernel team git repo ? afaik it should have everything for ES2 including all display patches Sep 01 15:44:21 (the one the package will be built from) Sep 01 15:44:22 ogra: Yes, when I started using this tree our tree wasn't rebased Sep 01 15:44:42 lag: looks like you might be missing a couple of panda related patches Sep 01 15:44:52 i'm not sure what additional patches ricardo has in his tree vs the packaging tree Sep 01 15:45:14 There are no differences Sep 01 15:45:16 Well Sep 01 15:45:17 or is missing... Sep 01 15:45:25 No significant differences Sep 01 15:45:44 Only his LED patch and my edits (suspend and sound debug) Sep 01 15:47:21 lag: ok one sec Sep 01 15:48:13 lag: ok http://paste.ubuntu.com/486626/ , checkout line 237 Sep 01 15:48:28 lag: I2C write to TSP61305 failed Sep 01 15:48:36 lag: notice it is spell TSP61305 Sep 01 15:48:58 lag: http://dev.omapzoom.org/?p=integration/kernel-ubuntu.git;a=commitdiff;h=3136e1a1a34e1197c8ee363b77e5a2ce1c98c2a7 Sep 01 15:49:06 lag: that patch fixes that spelling mistake Sep 01 15:49:29 lag: which leads me to believe you don't have the current source building Sep 01 15:52:00 prpplague: http://paste.ubuntu.com/486828/ Sep 01 15:53:30 lag: can you paste the sound/soc/omap/4430sdp.c file? Sep 01 15:54:07 lag: look - Linux version 2.6.34-903-omap4 (buildd@hawthorn) (gcc version 4.4.5 20100728 (prerelease) (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.4.4-8ubuntu1) ) #7-U Sep 01 15:54:16 lag: this can not be the L24.9 kernel Sep 01 15:54:46 Odd Sep 01 15:54:51 Give me a mo Sep 01 15:55:15 yeah, thats definitely the packaged kernel Sep 01 15:55:21 lag: the L24.9 kernel will report something similar to: Linux version 2.6.35-00002-gfe2d3db-dirty (danders@ccd-dev) (gcc version 4.3.3 (GCC) ) #17 SMP PREEMPT Mon Aug 30 11:06:07 CDT 2010 Sep 01 15:55:50 well, it would be 2.6.35-90*-omap4 for us Sep 01 15:56:05 likely 904 Sep 01 15:56:11 ogra: right, just pointing out that it would 2.6.35 not 2.6.24 Sep 01 15:56:18 prpplague: [ 0.000000] Linux version 2.6.35-903-omap4 (root@tangerine) (gcc version 4.4.5 20100728 (prerelease) (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.4.4-8ub) Sep 01 15:56:21 unless it gets reset to 900 because fo the version bump Sep 01 15:56:24 I was using it earlier Sep 01 15:56:39 lag: ok that doesn't match what you pasted Sep 01 15:56:42 Why on earth have my script just decided to grab another kernel Sep 01 15:56:44 prpplague, correct Sep 01 15:56:49 * lag investigates Sep 01 15:57:28 well, good to know our packaged kernel wors so far on ES2 even though its not supposed to *g* Sep 01 15:57:36 *works Sep 01 15:58:49 Can someone remind me why x-loader hangs? Sep 01 15:59:36 wrong u-boot ? Sep 01 16:00:05 It worked earlier Sep 01 16:00:21 before you did what ? Sep 01 16:00:30 * lag shrugs Sep 01 16:00:36 That's what I'm trying to find out Sep 01 16:00:45 heh Sep 01 16:00:52 lag: paste the log Sep 01 16:00:53 I'm using u-boot-with-ubuntu-patches.bin Sep 01 16:01:00 prpplague: Which log? Sep 01 16:01:03 * ogra doesnt know what that is Sep 01 16:01:13 lag: of the x-load hang Sep 01 16:01:14 It's rsalveti's Sep 01 16:01:19 ah Sep 01 16:01:21 There isn't a log Sep 01 16:01:24 for ES2 i suppose Sep 01 16:01:36 U-Boot 1.1.4-gcebe815a-dirty (Aug 20 2010 - 02:44:51) Sep 01 16:01:40 ? Sep 01 16:01:46 1.1.4 ??? Sep 01 16:01:56 It's what was given to me Sep 01 16:01:59 Again by rsalveti Sep 01 16:02:08 we dont use 1.1.4 anymore Sep 01 16:02:12 Do you think he has it in for me? Sep 01 16:02:46 Let me download Linaro's one Sep 01 16:02:57 i'm noit sure that has the ES2 patches yet Sep 01 16:03:10 stuff we need to care for next week Sep 01 16:03:26 robclark: Sep 01 16:03:46 robclark: Do you have a u-boot.bin I can use? Sep 01 16:03:52 hi lag Sep 01 16:03:56 Hello mate Sep 01 16:04:01 yeah, I suppose so.. let's see here Sep 01 16:04:17 Email would be my preference :) Sep 01 16:04:24 lag: es2? Sep 01 16:04:29 Yes please Sep 01 16:04:32 k Sep 01 16:04:37 I'm going to pick this up tomorrow Sep 01 16:04:56 I have to get ready to take the long haired general out for dinner Sep 01 16:05:14 i dont want to go to dinner with you ! Sep 01 16:05:27 lag: sent Sep 01 16:05:43 Not the long haired floor sweeper ;) Sep 01 16:05:49 The big-gun Sep 01 16:05:54 heh Sep 01 16:05:58 ouch Sep 01 16:06:01 The Mrs Sep 01 16:06:03 :D Sep 01 16:06:20 Thanks robclark Sep 01 16:06:23 np Sep 01 16:06:31 lag, enjoy ... and send long haired greetings Sep 01 16:06:45 Perhaps I should try this once, before you lot go to bed Sep 01 16:06:52 ogra: Will do Sep 01 16:07:09 lag: probably a good idea Sep 01 16:09:42 Looks promising Sep 01 16:10:21 prpplague, ogra: I think my scripts failed to mount the MMC card after the dd, hence leaving the old kernel on the card Sep 01 16:11:04 prpplague: did you find anything with your latest x-loader? When it is fixed for all ES2.0, your tree could be used as reference to start on ES2.0 on coming days (+after adding the support for 1GB ;))? Sep 01 16:11:54 sebjan, we'll switch the world over to ES2 starting on friday (after beta is out) Sep 01 16:12:37 sebjan: just started looking, i suspect that i missed something on the fref_clkout for the EHCI phy Sep 01 16:12:42 Is there a software difference between the two ES2 boards? Sep 01 16:13:05 GrueMaster, i think ricardo said he had issues with the 8 layer Sep 01 16:13:14 sebjan: i've been so swamped doing board validation, code for production testing, and getting handoff repos maintained, that mistakes are starting to creap in Sep 01 16:13:22 well, someone mentioned it and i think it was him Sep 01 16:14:23 prpplague: yes, I know that :). I can do some testing when you have something. Sep 01 16:14:34 hrm. If not, I can use both for testing. Otherwise one is useless (not even good as a paperweight). Sep 01 16:15:16 ogra: any idea what issues he reported? Sep 01 16:16:34 GrueMaster: there are some changes required in the x-laoder and kernel. Without those, you cannot use the USB/ethernet ports. Sep 01 16:16:45 rsalveti: What problems did you see between the two different ES2 boards? Sep 01 16:16:46 prpplague, not really, he'll be back tomorrow from his conference and we can ask Sep 01 16:16:47 lag: the u-boot binary I sent you is based on the es2 tree from gitorious Sep 01 16:16:51 oh Sep 01 16:16:56 he's here :) Sep 01 16:17:04 GrueMaster: I still didn't test es2 8 layer Sep 01 16:17:08 now yes :-) Sep 01 16:17:13 (helps if you use his id instead of his name). Sep 01 16:17:19 yep :-) Sep 01 16:17:20 Ok Sep 01 16:17:31 GrueMaster: I got the board at home, but I'm at linuxcon now Sep 01 16:17:36 will test it tomorrow Sep 01 16:17:47 rsalveti: ahh ok Sep 01 16:17:50 Ok, no problem. Sep 01 16:17:55 rsalveti: I'm sure it worked at one point Sep 01 16:17:57 ogra: lag: I didn't test the upstream u-boot, so that's why I built only the tested one Sep 01 16:18:00 rsalveti: It just stopped working Sep 01 16:18:01 so we could test it Sep 01 16:18:20 lag: the ubuntu-patches at u-boot is the one we had with the older package Sep 01 16:18:22 rsalveti, ah, k, i guess we'll need to bug jcrigby on friday then Sep 01 16:18:28 rsalveti: robclark's one works, so I'll keep with that one Sep 01 16:18:29 just setting default parameters and etc, nothing important Sep 01 16:18:46 ogra: yep, but I first need to find time to test the upstream one Sep 01 16:18:52 and first report it to sakoman Sep 01 16:18:55 rsalveti: the gitorious omap4_panda_L24.9 branches should work for both the 6 and 8 layer ES2.0 boards, sebjan reported an issue with the 6-layer not bringing up the usb EHCI, i'm looking into that now Sep 01 16:19:00 they don't have es2 boards, I guess Sep 01 16:19:11 prpplague: hm, ok, good to know, thanks Sep 01 16:19:19 rsalveti, you mean linaro ? Sep 01 16:19:21 fwiw, my MLO/u-boot.bin/uImage's are all for 6-layer boards.. I've not upgraded yet Sep 01 16:19:22 lag: yep, for now it's the best one Sep 01 16:19:26 they dont even have ES1 Sep 01 16:19:36 ogra: yep (linaro is basing on upstream from sakoman) Sep 01 16:19:46 so first I need to try sakoman's tree Sep 01 16:19:48 then linaro Sep 01 16:19:58 will do that tomorrow Sep 01 16:20:05 when I get home after my visa interview :-( Sep 01 16:20:31 rsalveti: Where to we email to tell them not to let you our of the country? Sep 01 16:20:32 ;) Sep 01 16:20:39 out* Sep 01 16:20:40 for es2 8layer let's just wait prpplague to test it Sep 01 16:20:47 and give us a valid tree Sep 01 16:20:58 rsalveti: for 8 layers, if you build a kernel, you'll also need a patch from prpplague tree (L24.9 branch) Sep 01 16:20:58 lag: haha :-) Sep 01 16:21:15 sebjan: yep, I saw that on gitorious Sep 01 16:21:35 sebjan: prpplague: are we going to have just one kernel, u-boot and x-loader for both es2 6 and es2 8? Sep 01 16:21:56 it'll make our life much much easier :-) Sep 01 16:21:57 rsalveti: yes Sep 01 16:22:02 nice! Sep 01 16:22:08 rsalveti: the current handoff should work on both Sep 01 16:22:08 all: fyi, I am preparing a patch series to goes on top of Bryan pull request, and that integrates all patches from prpplague tree and new updates from our dev teams. Sep 01 16:22:22 sebjan: dandy Sep 01 16:22:24 sebjan: awesome Sep 01 16:22:37 sebjan: can you send an email or ping us at the irc when you're done? Sep 01 16:22:46 so we can build it and try with our boards Sep 01 16:22:52 then package them Sep 01 16:23:18 rsalveti: yep, sure! Sep 01 16:23:32 sebjan: cool, thanks :-) Sep 01 16:23:40 rsalveti: np Sep 01 16:23:45 * ogra wonders why we have 6 layer boards at all Sep 01 16:24:05 ogra: well, probably because they didn't know they would get the 8 layer so fast Sep 01 16:24:08 :-) Sep 01 16:24:10 i think everyone who has the 6 layer has the 8 layer too now Sep 01 16:24:24 ogra: I don't :-( Sep 01 16:24:29 or, we didn't get the 6 on time Sep 01 16:24:40 ogra: long story Sep 01 16:24:42 robclark: but you're ti! ;-) Sep 01 16:25:11 ogra: basically they were a intermediate platform for testing the ES2.0 silicon before the 8-layer board were ready Sep 01 16:25:19 ah Sep 01 16:25:38 we should just ignore the 6 layer then i guess Sep 01 16:25:52 and move right away to the real stuff :) Sep 01 16:26:05 ogra: if we get just one binary for both boards, then we could use them for other purposes Sep 01 16:26:18 send for other teams, builders, don't know Sep 01 16:26:28 well, I assume there will be 6-layer boards floating around for a while.. best option is single binary if possible Sep 01 16:27:03 rsalveti, send them to robclark :) Sep 01 16:27:21 oh, wait you have a 6 layer ... Sep 01 16:27:23 ogra: well, I can use them for my build cluster ;-) Sep 01 16:27:49 with an external usb hd things gets quite fast Sep 01 16:28:00 and I can easily build kernels and stuffs Sep 01 16:28:39 * ogra is sad that they are not black though Sep 01 16:28:57 * rsalveti still didn't see his own es2 8 Sep 01 16:29:04 black was nice Sep 01 16:29:05 but its easier to tell them apart that way Sep 01 16:29:15 you guys did not have other problems? I do not have any panda so no panda problems (yet) Sep 01 16:29:44 ogra: another subject, how things are going with our image? Sep 01 16:29:52 GrueMaster: ^ Sep 01 16:30:05 hrw: that sounds like a bigger issue. Sep 01 16:30:43 rsalveti: Looks good. basic (fixable) bugs, but it boots through w/o issues. Sep 01 16:31:04 wohoo, my XM just finished Sep 01 16:31:04 * GrueMaster could have sworn he'd filed a bug about lack of dvi support. Sep 01 16:31:41 GrueMaster: ogra: nice Sep 01 16:31:45 hmm, i suspended it ... Sep 01 16:31:56 how the heck to i wake it up Sep 01 16:34:33 hmm, the reset button wakes it up ... kind of ... Sep 01 16:34:41 not really the way i want it to :P Sep 01 16:35:36 rsalveti, btw, i dont seem to have RAM issues on my XM rev A Sep 01 16:43:14 rsalveti: fyi, you can start looking here for updates on ubuntu kernel with latest patches from prpplague: http://dev.omapzoom.org/?p=integration/kernel-ubuntu.git, in branch for-ubuntu-2.6.35. I was able to boot on both panda 6 and 8 layers and blaze with this kernel image. This branch may still move a bit before I send it to Bryan. Sep 01 16:44:07 ogra: random results :-) Sep 01 16:44:57 sebjan, awesome, you rock ! Sep 01 16:45:47 sebjan: yeah, I'm always following this tree :-) Sep 01 16:46:06 ogra: thanks, but most of the work is from prpplague, robclark, ... thanks to them! :) Sep 01 16:46:16 thanks you all then :-) Sep 01 16:46:37 ++ Sep 01 16:46:55 ogra: we'll have problems with x-loader for xM Sep 01 16:47:08 we need an extra patch for Numonyx memory Sep 01 16:47:11 rsalveti, why ? works here with todays image Sep 01 16:47:15 oh Sep 01 16:47:17 ok Sep 01 16:47:20 some xM will have this memory Sep 01 16:47:24 well, x-loader is in our hands Sep 01 16:47:28 ogra: just got that from beagle mailing list Sep 01 16:47:37 ogra: sure, but no time for beta Sep 01 16:47:39 oh, i think i got a mail too Sep 01 16:47:45 ogra: will create a bug and push the update Sep 01 16:47:50 who cares for beta :P Sep 01 16:47:58 haha :-) Sep 01 16:47:59 as long as the final image has it Sep 01 16:48:24 sure, and the good part is that it should work by just changing a binary, at the first partition Sep 01 16:48:30 so, easy to workaround by the users Sep 01 16:48:35 http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/maverick/x-loader/maverick/annotate/head:/board/omap3530beagle/omap3530beagle.c Sep 01 16:48:36 just need to provide the correct binary around Sep 01 16:48:42 and post that at blogs/etc Sep 01 16:48:51 ogra: yep Sep 01 16:49:16 needs http://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/x-load/commit/ead751e4a361ce19552ac94bbeba232f12849244 Sep 01 16:49:29 ogra: yep Sep 01 16:49:41 robert sent that to me and lool today Sep 01 16:50:01 ogra: saw that, it was because I said the beta was going to be supported for xM Sep 01 16:50:09 then Jason pointed that out :-( Sep 01 16:50:41 well, just say its supported for the XM's that have been out there two week ago ;) Sep 01 16:50:49 *weeks Sep 01 16:51:14 final product will have to use final images :P Sep 01 16:51:30 ogra: :P Sep 01 16:51:32 anyway, i need to vanish ... Sep 01 16:51:46 see ya Sep 01 16:51:52 * ogra submits all testing results to the isotracker and calls it a day Sep 01 16:57:53 * prpplague wonders if people are using four letter words to talk about prpplague on the lists right about now Sep 01 17:10:13 prpplague: Only in the private channels Sep 01 17:10:16 ;) Sep 01 17:13:19 lag: hehe Sep 01 17:13:39 :) Sep 01 17:13:53 lag: well if they are, make sure they use really good four letter words Sep 01 17:14:54 prpplague: I'll be sure to tell you otherwise :) Sep 01 17:15:09 hehe Sep 01 17:23:18 ogra, rsalveti: I know that the x-load in my tree works with both the Numonyx and Micron versions of the xM Sep 01 17:23:31 what is the typical --seed used to create the ubuntu-netbook-efl rootstock stuff ? Sep 01 17:23:43 sakoman: but did you include the http://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/x-load/commit/ead751e4a361ce19552ac94bbeba232f12849244 patch? Sep 01 17:23:55 or something simliar Sep 01 17:24:42 should I just seed with ubuntu-netbook and then add the efl stuff ? Sep 01 17:25:31 rsalveti: yes: http://www.sakoman.com/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=x-loader.git;a=summary Sep 01 17:25:39 fifth commit down Sep 01 17:27:18 sakoman: cool, nice to know Sep 01 17:27:32 didn't know you are also maintaining a x-loader tree Sep 01 17:28:03 rsalveti: heh, there is even a kernel tree :-) Sep 01 17:28:32 haha, yep, you always start with just one tree, and at the end you have your own tree for everything :-) Sep 01 17:28:37 rsalveti: most of the xM support patches came from my x-load tree Sep 01 17:28:46 sakoman: cool, didn't know Sep 01 17:29:35 sakoman: do we have a kind of upstream x-loader? Sep 01 17:29:45 or just basically trees all around, like beagle validation and yours Sep 01 17:30:02 rsalveti: as far as I know, there is no official "upstream" for x-load Sep 01 17:30:17 Personally I would like to see it die Sep 01 17:30:28 It is really horrid code Sep 01 17:30:54 yeah, it'd be nice to kill it Sep 01 17:31:16 and about the direct u-boot support for panda? Sep 01 17:32:03 that is waiting for me to get a new panda with a processor ES2 or later Sep 01 17:32:18 early processors have broken config header support Sep 01 17:32:33 hm, ok Sep 01 18:02:20 sakoman: let's kill x-loader then Sep 01 18:02:31 sakoman: How much work would it be to merge it back into u-boot, with two build modes? Sep 01 18:02:42 like one config for x-loader mode, and one config for full mode Sep 01 18:02:55 sakoman: That sounds like a good Linaro topic, even if a bit biased towards OMAP :-) Sep 01 18:20:15 * rsalveti out again Sep 01 18:46:17 sebjan: ping Sep 01 18:51:46 sebjan: http://gitorious.org/pandaboard/x-loader/commit/a41abea82b5f02265cd9f7140f0f10be3a9c97e7 Sep 01 19:00:01 lool: that is not a trivial task :-) Sep 01 19:20:16 lool, I think the avenue to take would be nand_spl like other arch's do Sep 01 19:20:40 lool, I think the avenue to take would be nand_spl like other arch's do Sep 01 19:20:58 oops Sep 01 20:06:23 hmm Sep 01 20:06:36 running apt-get upgrade in my arm qemu image causes a segfault :( Sep 01 20:06:41 anyone experience this before ? Sep 01 20:07:36 hey guys... where is the omap daily build releases? can some one send me a link plz Sep 01 20:07:57 orbarron: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/daily-preinstalled/ Sep 01 20:08:04 thanks Sep 01 20:18:12 nvm, found that it appears to be a common problem :( Sep 01 21:16:10 jcrigby: nand_spl > interesting bit Sep 01 21:57:22 persia: is that the new zaurus? is it msm or something else? Sep 01 22:46:57 how would I make Unity launch instead of gnome ? this is on an armel system Sep 01 22:48:52 You can select it at login from gdm. Sep 01 22:49:02 ah, let me try again Sep 01 22:49:27 after selecting the user, but before entering password. Bottom of the screen. Sep 01 22:52:34 hum, I have no bottom of the screen unless I can figure out how to adjust my hdmi monitor horizontal setting Sep 01 22:52:51 anyway to make it launch directry ? Sep 01 22:58:28 is there a meta package to remove all of gnome ? Sep 01 22:59:00 you could run sudo /usr/lib/gdm/gdm-set-default-sesion une. Sep 01 22:59:21 That would launch unity, I believe. Sep 01 22:59:38 (after a restart). Sep 01 23:03:26 hum, I see, to be having battles between une and gnome, gnome still grabs the desktop Sep 01 23:07:46 are you running today's (20100901) image? Sep 01 23:09:30 this is a maverick user space on a karmic kernel. (i/MX51) Sep 01 23:10:52 I assumed from the other day maverick doesn't have kernel support for the SmartTop Sep 01 23:11:37 Oh. Hrm. not sure I can offer much help then. Sep 01 23:14:59 the kernel shouldn't matter I'd think unless Unity needs something special Sep 01 23:15:54 Well, Karmic was Armv6+vfp. If unity is using armv7 code... Sep 01 23:16:34 Have you tried the Lucid kernel? Same core but with armv7 goodness. Sep 01 23:17:12 I'm hesitant to try the lucid kernel on my only working arm development system :-( Sep 01 23:17:31 unless I can figure out how to try a live SD type of thing Sep 01 23:18:42 Lucid images were live. Sep 01 23:19:16 But I'm not sure how your system works. Lucid was built to boot from SD. Sep 01 23:19:24 Using redboot. Sep 01 23:20:17 Genesi is sending me an addtional SmartTop sp maybe I'll try on that one. Sep 01 23:20:42 I did try to do the "recovery.sh" trick on a NetWalker, but it refuses to install even it's own default image Sep 01 23:23:16 The netwalker used earlier silicon and isn't compatible with the newer kernels. Someone could in theory look at the kernel tree and figure out how to forward port them, but that is beyond me. Sep 01 23:23:25 Mainly enotime. Sep 01 23:25:16 Does the smarttop use our kernel? or it's own? Sep 01 23:29:12 rsavoye: ^^ Sep 01 23:29:31 it's using it's own, mostly cause of driver issues Sep 01 23:29:39 ah. Sep 01 23:29:45 they want to move to maverick, but are worried about that Sep 01 23:30:07 they're sending free uints to developers if you'd fix it :-) Sep 01 23:30:29 We recently dropped the imx51 kernel from maverick unfortunately. Sep 01 23:30:40 yep, they were bummed Sep 01 23:30:58 so I had to do the user space hack, since I needed maverick Sep 01 23:31:12 No one to port it forward, and fsl wasn't interested. I think Linaro might be doing something with them, but not sure. Sep 01 23:31:47 Does it use nand of some sort to boot from? Sep 01 23:34:16 an internal SSD drive, or microSD card Sep 01 23:35:03 Interesting. If that could be removed/swapped out, testing would be a breaze. Sep 01 23:35:33 It does boot off SD, which is how I initially tried maverick on it Sep 01 23:37:10 What does /proc/cpuinfo tell you as to proc version? Sep 01 23:38:33 ARMv7 Processor rev 5 (v7l) Sep 01 23:38:51 Same as my babbage v3. Sep 01 23:39:11 So it "should" work the same kernel wise. Sep 01 23:40:34 oops, I'm a space cadet. I do believe it's running lucid, it's the NetWalker that runs karmic Sep 01 23:41:07 According to the web site I found, it is karmic. The netwalker should be Jaunty. Sep 01 23:41:45 I must be doing too much web surfing, you are correct Sep 01 23:42:33 I think Genesi is planning on doing their own support for maverick Sep 01 23:48:40 This is the system, right? http://www.genesi-usa.com/products/efika Sep 01 23:49:17 yep, the SmartTop Sep 01 23:49:37 Looks nice. Wish I had the spare $$$. Sep 01 23:49:39 the SmartBook is unreleased as of yet Sep 01 23:49:47 they're free to developers :-) Sep 01 23:49:59 they even Fed-ex'd mine last week Sep 01 23:50:50 They sent me one for a Gnash port, although I've been using it for OpenJDK hacking mostly Sep 01 23:52:32 I'm more of a QA type than a developer, although I have done some kernel and alsa development in the past. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Sep 02 02:59:58 2010