**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Oct 04 02:59:57 2010
Oct 04 07:47:03 <hrw> morning
Oct 04 12:14:23 <lag> robclark: Morning
Oct 04 12:14:32 <robclark> gm lag
Oct 04 12:14:43 <lag> Hey buddy, how are you?
Oct 04 12:15:14 <robclark> still a bit bleary eyed..  but coffee is starting to do it's job ;-)
Oct 04 12:15:40 <lag> Because it's Monday, or did you go out last night?
Oct 04 12:16:07 <robclark> no.. just a bit early still.. sun is only just starting to come up
Oct 04 12:16:36 <lag> Ah, okay
Oct 04 12:16:47 <lag> robclark: You're in Texas aren't you?
Oct 04 12:16:54 <robclark> yup
Oct 04 12:17:11 <lag> Is Bryan there with you?
Oct 04 12:17:51 <robclark> no one is here with me yet.. but I think some will be here later in the morning (although not sure who all)
Oct 04 12:19:06 <lag> I'm assuming he'll have access to IRC when he arrives?
Oct 04 12:19:39 <robclark> Hmm.. I assume we can work something out..
Oct 04 12:21:34 <lag> Excellent :)
Oct 04 12:24:15 <ogra_ac> lag, bryan is here already we'll meet in 40min for breakfast
Oct 04 12:24:25 <robclark> gm ogra_ac
Oct 04 12:24:36 <ogra_ac> hey rob :)
Oct 04 12:24:38 <lag> ogra_ac: Good stuff
Oct 04 12:24:48 <lag> Do you know the current state of the sound issue?
Oct 04 12:24:57 * ogra_ac is up since 3h ... damned jetlag
Oct 04 12:25:02 <robclark> doh
Oct 04 12:25:18 <lag> Yeah, I have jet-lag from Thailand
Oct 04 12:25:20 <ogra_ac> lag, only that there was much progress on the kernel side and that we still need userspace fixes
Oct 04 12:25:21 <robclark> lag: sound seems much better w/ audio patches from L24.10 backported
Oct 04 12:25:41 <robclark> one small default.pa change.. since hdmi is now device 0,7 (IIRC)..
Oct 04 12:25:47 <ogra_ac> and that time is getting short to get the userspace sorted (2 days left for uploads)
Oct 04 12:25:54 <lag> Does the card now report itself to Sound Preferences?
Oct 04 12:26:05 <ogra_ac> it does report itself to alsa
Oct 04 12:26:16 <ogra_ac> i think PA still needs the devices in the config
Oct 04 12:26:22 <lag> Excellent
Oct 04 12:26:29 <lag> Is there anything I need to do?
Oct 04 12:26:41 <ogra_ac> not sure, i'll ask bryan later
Oct 04 12:26:45 <lag> Or is kernel sound done for the release
Oct 04 12:26:54 <lag> That's what I'm waiting for ... :)
Oct 04 12:26:59 <ogra_ac> mpoirier dod much of the testing, i think we need him around too
Oct 04 12:27:03 <robclark> ogra_ac, lag:  is the kernel you are using already having the big stack of audio patches that are here: http://dev.omapzoom.org/?p=integration/kernel-ubuntu.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/for-ubuntu-2.6.35
Oct 04 12:28:58 <robclark> fyi, on another topic.. updated geexbox packages (enna, libnfo, libplayer, etc) are created for debian: http://www.geexbox.org/sympa/arc/devel/2010-10/msg00009.html
Oct 04 12:29:06 <robclark> would be nice to get these in maverick
Oct 04 12:29:37 <lag> It doesn't look like it, no
Oct 04 12:29:46 <robclark> I've got a few more things to do in libplayer, but now it is starting to work well with hw accel codecs (and opengles)
Oct 04 12:29:55 <lag> sebjan: --^
Oct 04 12:33:11 <sebjan> lag: hi! the L24.10 audio patches are not pushed yet to the official kernel branch. They are still under test. cooloney did build an image for testing including these patches.
Oct 04 12:33:47 <robclark> sebjan: after I figured out that the HDMI device changed, the L24.10 patches seemed a big improvement
Oct 04 12:34:51 <lag> sebjan: Then I need to catch up with Bryan (after he's had his breakfast) :)
Oct 04 12:35:03 <lag> ogra_ac: Is mpoirer there with you too?
Oct 04 12:35:25 <ogra_ac> no
Oct 04 12:35:29 <lag> k
Oct 04 12:36:10 <ogra_ac> only bryan, tobin, ricardo and me
Oct 04 12:37:24 <sebjan> lag: please have look at bug 637947
Oct 04 12:37:25 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 637947 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "no sound devices on current ES2.0 boards (affects: 1) (heat: 16)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/637947
Oct 04 12:37:49 <lag> sebjan: I have - it's my bug :)
Oct 04 12:37:56 <sebjan> lag: Bryan did provide the location of the image he built with audio, + some updates from berco
Oct 04 12:38:36 <sebjan> lag: ok, :) These are the latest updates I have regarding audio. Berco did test it sucessfully and we are happy with these patches also.
Oct 04 12:38:42 <lag> sebjan: They're no good to me - sound doesn't work on my board due to a hardware fault
Oct 04 12:39:34 <lag> I'm interested to know if the card is reported to Sound Preferences without the script and configuration hacks?
Oct 04 12:41:13 <sebjan> berco1: ^  (I think this is still the open issue right now, even with these updates)
Oct 04 12:44:24 <lag> Userspace?
Oct 04 13:17:01 <dmart> ogra_ac: hey there... do I guess correctly from your nick that you got http://ac100.gudinna.com/ working?  Any good?
Oct 04 13:21:34 <ogra_ac> dmart, fsvo good, it runs
Oct 04 13:21:44 <ogra_ac> dmart, http://forums.computers.toshiba-europe.com/forums//thread.jspa?threadID=56355&start=75&tstart=0
Oct 04 13:21:58 <ogra_ac> seems it generated some interest at toshiba at least
Oct 04 13:25:52 <dmart> ogra_ac: if would be great if toshiba could be persuaded to help with the effort :)
Oct 04 13:25:55 * dmart still tempted
Oct 04 13:26:38 <ogra_ac> dmart, well, they seem to look for community support
Oct 04 13:26:58 <ogra_ac> and that post above sounds like they are willing to help to some extend
Oct 04 13:29:02 <dmart> sounds positive, overall
Oct 04 13:29:13 <dmart> can I have a look @ UDS?
Oct 04 13:29:53 <ogra_ac> sure
Oct 04 13:30:00 <dmart> thanks :)
Oct 04 13:30:11 <ogra_ac> seems someone just made alsa work :D
Oct 04 13:30:35 * ogra_ac just got a tarball with modules
Oct 04 13:37:19 <dmart> $ aplay fanfare.raw
Oct 04 13:40:45 <ogra_ac> dmart, well, not that far yet
Oct 04 13:40:49 <ogra_ac> ogra@ac100:/lib/modules/2.6.29-arm2-svn1996/kernel/drivers$ cat /proc/asound/cards
Oct 04 13:40:49 <ogra_ac>  0 [tegra          ]: tegra-generic-cotegra - tegra
Oct 04 13:40:49 <ogra_ac>                       tegra (tegra-generic-codec)
Oct 04 13:40:56 <ogra_ac> even the string is mangled
Oct 04 13:41:00 <ogra_ac> but the modules load
Oct 04 13:41:26 <dmart> hmmm, well it sounds like progress anyhow
Oct 04 13:41:36 <ogra_ac> ogra@ac100:/lib/modules/2.6.29-arm2-svn1996/kernel/drivers$ ls /dev/snd/
Oct 04 13:41:36 <ogra_ac> controlC0  pcmC0D0c   pcmC0D0p   timer
Oct 04 13:41:40 <ogra_ac> no mixer though
Oct 04 13:41:49 <ogra_ac> will still need hacking
Oct 04 13:42:04 <dmart> Does aplay "work" (even if no sound output)
Oct 04 13:42:22 <ogra_ac> no
Oct 04 13:42:29 <ogra_ac> it will need tinkering
Oct 04 13:42:40 <ogra_ac> i guess as long as the mixer isnt there alsa will fail
Oct 04 13:43:02 <dmart> I don't believe aplay touches the mixer (?)
Oct 04 13:43:31 <ogra_ac> but it needs to know what the card is
Oct 04 13:44:06 <dmart> Does something like aplay -Dhw:0,0 not work?
Oct 04 13:44:18 <ogra_ac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/505743/
Oct 04 13:44:39 <ogra_ac> seems android blocks access to the socket
Oct 04 13:45:56 <dmart> No socket is used for alsa audio, but aplay tries to route via pulseaudio which may be what's happening.  strace might be informative there
Oct 04 13:47:00 <ogra_ac> ha !
Oct 04 13:47:11 <dmart> I did write a hack to play audio through a device node directly, bypassing the alsa userspace stuff... but with no mixer node, I guess you may not be able to unmute anyway...
Oct 04 13:47:13 <ogra_ac> there is a special android daemon i have to run
Oct 04 13:47:16 <ogra_ac> works now
Oct 04 13:47:27 <dmart> ugh
Oct 04 13:47:49 <ogra_ac> binary nvidia stuff :(
Oct 04 13:47:51 <ogra_ac> no sources
Oct 04 13:48:26 <dmart> maybe this is down to the android-ised nature of the drivers
Oct 04 13:48:28 <ogra_ac> sadly that toool also enables userspace cpufreq
Oct 04 13:48:37 <ogra_ac> which makes the whole system really slow
Oct 04 13:49:03 <dmart> hmmm, that ought to affect android too, not just ubuntu?
Oct 04 13:49:19 <rsalveti> morning
Oct 04 13:49:23 <rsalveti> ogra_ac: hey, didn't sleep?
Oct 04 13:49:25 <rsalveti> :-)
Oct 04 13:49:51 <ogra_ac> rsalveti, got up at 5:30 :(
Oct 04 13:49:55 <rsalveti> lag: we'll try to follow up the audio issues today, will keep you posted in case you can help us :-)
Oct 04 13:50:00 <ogra_ac> rsalveti, we're sitting downstairs
Oct 04 13:50:24 <rsalveti> basically we have 2 issues now, one is that alsa is not loading the mixer settings file, and the other is that pulse is not getting the correct default routing
Oct 04 13:50:32 <rsalveti> ogra_ac: cool, had your breakfast already?
Oct 04 13:50:37 * rsalveti going down in a minute
Oct 04 13:50:38 <ogra_ac> dmart, no, it dynamically en/disables the second cpu based on load ... not a biggie in android wheer you dont really have multitasking
Oct 04 13:50:48 <ogra_ac> but noticeable in ubuntu
Oct 04 13:50:49 <dmart> ah
Oct 04 13:50:58 <ogra_ac> shitty userspace power management
Oct 04 13:51:55 <rsalveti> ogra_ac: ouch, would be even harder for brian I'd say
Oct 04 13:52:07 <dmart> can running the same magic daemon enable that to work, or is it more tricky than that?
Oct 04 13:52:19 <ogra_ac> i run it on ubuntu atm
Oct 04 13:52:32 <ogra_ac> prob is that it has all the paths of the helper apps hardcoded
Oct 04 13:52:42 <ogra_ac> so i need to do weird stuff to my filesystem
Oct 04 13:53:08 <dmart> meh
Oct 04 13:53:16 <ogra_ac> (cteating /system/bin and fiddling with LD_LIBRARY_PATH)
Oct 04 13:53:56 * ogra_ac reboots
Oct 04 14:27:15 <mpoirier> GrueMaster: good morning
Oct 04 16:06:20 <lag> sebjan: Does the OTG port work on the Panda?
Oct 04 16:10:38 <hrw> lag: wasn't it working on ES1 versions as only usb port?
Oct 04 16:10:55 <lag> It was
Oct 04 16:11:04 <lag> How about ES2.0/1
Oct 04 16:11:58 <hrw> no idea - waiting for hw
Oct 04 18:26:20 <rsalveti> yeeh, we're back on-line
Oct 04 18:26:37 <rsalveti> sharing a 3g connection :-)
Oct 04 18:30:27 <rsalveti> cooloney: ogra_ac: hey!
Oct 04 18:30:38 <rsalveti> it seems to work!
Oct 04 18:30:46 <cooloney> rsalveti: good, man, thx
Oct 04 18:30:51 <rsalveti> np :-)
Oct 04 18:30:52 <ogra_ac> yay
Oct 04 18:31:05 <ogra_ac> my lag meter goes mad in xchat though
Oct 04 18:51:42 <cooloney> mpoirier: hey, man.
Oct 04 18:52:01 <mpoirier> cooloney: hello bryan,
Oct 04 18:52:07 <cooloney> mpoirier: i've rebased the audio fix patches here
Oct 04 18:52:09 <cooloney> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=roc/ubuntu-maverick.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/ti-omap4
Oct 04 18:52:28 <cooloney> and kernel http://people.canonical.com/~roc/kernel/audio/
Oct 04 18:52:41 <mpoirier> cool, just haven't seen any confirmation - was wondering if you had time.
Oct 04 18:53:20 <cooloney> mpoirier: we are working on that, wanna make the sound work.
Oct 04 18:53:45 <mpoirier> ya... are you working with Irg and friends ?
Oct 04 18:56:15 <mpoirier> in any case, I'm available for testing
Oct 04 18:56:42 <mpoirier> if you want me to investigate something that you don't have time with, just poke me.
Oct 04 19:01:48 <cooloney> mpoirier: great, man. i'm working with ogra, rsalveti and GrueMaster here
Oct 04 19:02:22 <cooloney> lag: did you get any progress on the sound issue of es2.0?
Oct 04 19:04:50 <mpoirier> cooloney: have you ever built the linaro tree ?
Oct 04 19:09:37 <cooloney> mpoirier: oh, no, never tried that
Oct 04 19:41:40 <directhex> I swear I'm not smoking crack here... does Firefox on ARM really define its plugin ABI as Linux_unknownABI?
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