**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Oct 10 02:59:57 2010
Oct 10 06:52:03 <voipster3> Hi
Oct 10 06:52:37 <voipster3> I am new here and have just downloaded the maverick for arm
Oct 10 06:53:06 <voipster3> I have made the image to the SD card and booted on the beagleboard C3
Oct 10 06:53:19 <voipster3> but there is not display can anyone help?
Oct 10 06:54:10 <voipster3> the sd led lights are blinking so it is reading from the card and atm this computer I cannot connect it to a serial port
Oct 10 06:54:22 <voipster3> so i cannot actually see whats going on
Oct 10 08:52:06 <dhiry2k> hi all, i have installed ubuntu armel 101.10 xfce4 but it looks like red in color
Oct 10 08:52:19 <dhiry2k> may be need any setting
Oct 10 08:52:21 <dhiry2k> ?
Oct 10 08:53:48 <persia> Um, from where/how did you install that?
Oct 10 08:54:38 <persia> Also, please confirm that you're talking about 10.10, rather than having run into an accident related to the prior-state backup facility in the 2101 fall release.
Oct 10 08:57:17 <dhiry2k> persia, yes i have installed 10.10  http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/ maverick/main
Oct 10 08:57:35 <persia> So just `apt-get install xfce4` ?
Oct 10 08:57:44 <dhiry2k> persia, yes
Oct 10 08:58:04 <dhiry2k> persia, i have created rootfilesystem using rootstock
Oct 10 08:58:06 <persia> Ah, yeah, that gets the raw, unfiltered, base configuration, which may not be ideally integrated.
Oct 10 08:58:18 <dhiry2k> in which i have given option as  xfce4
Oct 10 08:58:33 <dhiry2k> persia, so i need to do ?
Oct 10 08:58:37 <persia> There's been no reported testing, but I'd strongly suggest installation of "xubuntu-desktop" to get an XFCE-based integrated desktop experience.
Oct 10 08:59:09 <dhiry2k> persia, which is best light wdesktop environment
Oct 10 08:59:10 <persia> That should pull all the right extra libraries, themes, settings packages, etc.
Oct 10 08:59:20 <dhiry2k> lxde or xfce4
Oct 10 08:59:33 <persia> I disbelieve that "best" means anything in this context.
Oct 10 09:00:14 <persia> Personally, I tend to use a GNOME-based environment (with a few bits removed).  I know several people who swear by XFCE and Enlightenment, and there's lots of folk who seem to believe LXDE is even better.
Oct 10 09:00:16 <dhiry2k> persia, if i install xuduntu-desktop then it actually installs many packages which i dont need
Oct 10 09:00:40 <persia> dhiry2k, Try `apt-get --no-install-recommends install xubuntu-desktop`
Oct 10 09:01:18 <dhiry2k> persia, if i have a debian source what will be the way to recompile this for arm
Oct 10 09:01:21 <persia> But yeah, it probably installs more than you need: it's supposed to install a fully integrated environment (although I don't think any of the Xubuntu guys use armel).
Oct 10 09:02:10 <dhiry2k> persia, for armel which desktop environment normally prefereed in ubuntu
Oct 10 09:02:15 <persia> Trivial recompile: `apt-get --compile source ${PACKAGE}` with deb-src lines pointing at Debian.
Oct 10 09:02:40 <voipster3> hi
Oct 10 09:02:42 <dhiry2k> package is locally available not at debian or ubuntu repo
Oct 10 09:02:57 <persia> There are three tested images: Ubuntu Netbook 2D (GNOME/EFL), Kubuntu Desktop (Qt), and Kubuntu Mobile (Qt).
Oct 10 09:02:58 <dhiry2k> i mean source is at local system
Oct 10 09:03:22 <persia> Oh, for a local package, I tend to prefer to use pbuilder or sbuild.  Some folk just dpkg-source -x the package and debuild -b it.
Oct 10 09:03:40 <voipster3> I have a beagleboard C3
Oct 10 09:03:41 <persia> Using pbuilder/sbuild is much cleaner, but requires some setup.
Oct 10 09:03:48 <dhiry2k> but it may need to setup cross toolchain
Oct 10 09:03:54 <persia> voipster3, Hey.  Saw your message from earlier.  how is the display connected?
Oct 10 09:04:02 <voipster3> HDMI
Oct 10 09:04:17 <persia> dhiry2k, Why a cross toolchain?  Just compile natively.  All the packages in Ubuntu are compiled natively.
Oct 10 09:04:27 <voipster3> It seems that the omapfb is not starting
Oct 10 09:04:53 <persia> Does even the text in the beginning when jasper does the resize not show?
Oct 10 09:04:53 <dhiry2k> persia, but i need to install it in armel i.e arm board os
Oct 10 09:05:13 <persia> dhiry2k, OK.  So, build it on an ARM board.
Oct 10 09:05:30 <dhiry2k> voipster3,dmesg can tell much regarding error of omapfb
Oct 10 09:05:42 <dhiry2k> persia, you mean do chroot and build
Oct 10 09:05:44 <persia> dhiry2k, Hard to use with no serial console and no display :)
Oct 10 09:06:08 <persia> dhiry2k, pbuilder and sbuild use chroot, but you can also just build in an installed environment, if you aren't concerned about repeatibility.
Oct 10 09:06:46 <persia> voipster3, You might try mounting the SD somewhere else, and looking at the logs.  I suspect /var/log/Xorg.0.log would contain some hints.
Oct 10 09:07:47 <dhiry2k> persia, is .net application works fine with mono in armel
Oct 10 09:08:06 <dhiry2k> may be some games which is created using .net
Oct 10 09:08:33 <persia> Mono is ported.  There are some bugs.  The Mono team always appreciates help.
Oct 10 09:09:18 <voipster3> dhiry2k I can't type anything in there it is stuck
Oct 10 09:09:43 <dhiry2k> voipster3, do you have minicom setup?
Oct 10 09:09:51 <voipster3> not at this computer
Oct 10 09:10:10 <voipster3> From what I saw the other day it just booted but no display
Oct 10 09:10:12 <dhiry2k> voipster3,what actually it shows on LCD
Oct 10 09:10:16 <voipster3> nothing
Oct 10 09:10:20 <dhiry2k> white screen?
Oct 10 09:10:22 <voipster3> no
Oct 10 09:10:25 <voipster3> no signal
Oct 10 09:10:32 <persia> voipster3, Turn it off, extract the card, mount it somewhere else, and examine the logs.  With no display and no console, you'll have a very hard time getting useful information out of the booted system.
Oct 10 09:10:33 <voipster3> if i remove the sd card
Oct 10 09:10:41 <voipster3> the beagle dog show
Oct 10 09:11:03 <voipster3> ok i will look at the log
Oct 10 09:11:20 <dhiry2k> voipster3, its better to debug using minicom
Oct 10 09:11:23 <voipster3> also tks for the tips greatly appreciate it
Oct 10 09:11:32 <dhiry2k> probably uboot environment is wrong
Oct 10 09:11:35 <persia> dhiry2k, We don't enable the serial console by default, which makes that tricky :)
Oct 10 09:11:41 <voipster3> yes i know just this computer dont have a serial port
Oct 10 09:12:01 <voipster3> the uboot environmoent for booting is ok
Oct 10 09:12:11 <voipster3> jsut that the display driver is not activating
Oct 10 09:12:22 <voipster3> the read write leds blink fast
Oct 10 09:12:32 <dhiry2k> voipster3, printenv bootcmd
Oct 10 09:12:40 <voipster3> after a minute of blinking only read led is blinking
Oct 10 09:12:41 <persia> voipster3, This is with a published image, or a custom image?
Oct 10 09:12:54 <voipster3> published
Oct 10 09:12:59 <persia> Which image?
Oct 10 09:13:02 <dhiry2k> ompafb.mode=?
Oct 10 09:13:12 <voipster3> didnt set any of those
Oct 10 09:13:14 <persia> dhiry2k, jasper should be setting that automatically.
Oct 10 09:13:16 <voipster3> it just booted
Oct 10 09:13:27 <dhiry2k> but sometime it may go wrong
Oct 10 09:13:31 <dhiry2k> better add manually
Oct 10 09:13:54 <voipster3> from minicom? or is there a config i can edit?
Oct 10 09:13:54 <persia> True, although I tend to examine logs, hating to do anything manually when there is automation available/
Oct 10 09:14:24 <dhiry2k> voipster3, its better to have minicom
Oct 10 09:14:44 <dhiry2k> if not then try different value omapfb.mode=dvi:1280x720MR-16@60
Oct 10 09:15:13 <persia> Much better to select a value based on one's actual connected display, rather than based on a guess.
Oct 10 09:15:18 <dhiry2k> if you have HDMI port for LCD then omapfb.mode=dvi:hd720-24@60
Oct 10 09:15:19 <voipster3> can i send you the log file?
Oct 10 09:15:29 <dhiry2k> persia, correct
Oct 10 09:15:33 <persia> I think I heard a rumour once that the HDMI port only provided DVI-D signals, although I may be mistaken.
Oct 10 09:15:36 <dhiry2k> voipster3, yes
Oct 10 09:15:43 <persia> !paste | voipster3
Oct 10 09:15:44 <ubot2> voipster3: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
Oct 10 09:16:02 <persia> voipster3, Use a pastebin rather than sending, in case someone lurking has an idea.
Oct 10 09:16:26 <voipster3> ok you got to excuse me since i am not an avid irc user
Oct 10 09:16:35 <dhiry2k> persia, while installing packages in chroot environment getting error as omapfb.mode=dvi:1280x720MR-16@60
Oct 10 09:16:39 <dhiry2k> sorry
Oct 10 09:16:53 <dhiry2k> error as Unsupported ioctl: cmd=0xc020660b
Oct 10 09:17:07 <persia> Then use a chroot on an armel device, rather than a qemu-chroot :)
Oct 10 09:17:22 <persia> Otherwise ignore them: most of them don't matter, although you may have issues with some.
Oct 10 09:18:32 <voipster3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/509963/
Oct 10 09:18:44 <voipster3> this is for the X log
Oct 10 09:20:47 <voipster3> Jan  1 00:00:13 acorn kernel: [    2.059570] omapfb omapfb: failed to allocate framebuffer
Oct 10 09:20:49 <voipster3> Jan  1 00:00:13 acorn kernel: [    2.065063] omapfb omapfb: failed to allocate fbmem
Oct 10 09:20:51 <voipster3> Jan  1 00:00:13 acorn kernel: [    2.070007] omapfb omapfb: failed to setup omapfb
Oct 10 09:20:53 <voipster3> Jan  1 00:00:13 acorn kernel: [    2.074798] omapfb: probe of omapfb failed with error -12
Oct 10 09:20:55 <voipster3> This is from the kern.log
Oct 10 09:22:52 <voipster3> dhiry2k need to see dmesg file too?
Oct 10 09:24:03 * persia suspects some missing "MEM" or "VMEM" or somesuch setting and hunts docs
Oct 10 09:24:23 <voipster3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/509966/
Oct 10 09:24:30 <voipster3> this is the dmesg file
Oct 10 09:25:31 <persia> I think jasper didn't run correctly: you ought have a "VRAM=12M" argument set, which should prevent the "omapfb: failed to allocate fbmem" bit.
Oct 10 09:26:22 <persia> I've never seen "omapfb.vram=1:4M,2:4M" passed previously.
Oct 10 09:27:35 <voipster3> so i need to manually type it at boot each time or is there a way to permanently change it?
Oct 10 09:28:03 <persia> I think you'd permanently change it in uboot settings
Oct 10 09:28:22 <voipster3> so i need to do it from minicom?
Oct 10 09:28:28 <persia> And I suspect the "omapfb.vram" parameter is hitting my attempt to prevent stomping on user-supplied values, and causing vmem=12M not to be set.
Oct 10 09:28:35 <persia> No.
Oct 10 09:28:54 <persia> You can change the settings in the uboot configuration on an SD, and boot using the uboot on SD.
Oct 10 09:29:02 <voipster3> ok
Oct 10 09:29:10 <voipster3> so i just directly edit the file?
Oct 10 09:30:25 <persia> May as well try.  Just make a backup first.  You're unlikely to damage anything playing with kernel command line parameters.
Oct 10 09:31:34 <voipster3> atm i dont have minicom here can i just use a desktop to edit the file?
Oct 10 09:32:23 <voipster3> the answer is now :P
Oct 10 09:32:27 <voipster3> no
Oct 10 09:32:44 <persia> Of course you can.  it's just a text file.
Oct 10 09:33:03 <voipster3> umean the u-boot.bin file?
Oct 10 09:33:27 <persia> Isn't there something like a boot.scr or similar?
Oct 10 09:33:33 <voipster3> yes
Oct 10 09:33:40 <persia> I think that's it.
Oct 10 09:33:40 <voipster3> but it says its a binary file
Oct 10 09:33:51 <voipster3> ok i'll try from cli
Oct 10 09:33:57 <persia> Hmm.  You might want someone else to advise you then.
Oct 10 09:34:13 <persia> I tend to just complain until someone makes a bootloader work, and then stick to userspace.
Oct 10 09:34:32 <voipster3> hehe understand
Oct 10 09:34:41 <voipster3> tks for the time though
Oct 10 09:36:36 <voipster3> the boot.scr has the setting of vram=12M
Oct 10 09:37:01 <voipster3> fatload mmc 0:1 0x81600000 uInitrd
Oct 10 09:37:03 <voipster3>     setenv bootargs vram=12M omapfb.mode=dvi:1280x720MR-16@60    root=/dev/mmcb$
Oct 10 09:37:05 <voipster3>     bootm 0x80000000 0x81600000
Oct 10 09:37:17 <persia> Dunno then.  That's the bit on my C4 that makes it not have issues with memory for the framebuffer.
Oct 10 09:37:54 <voipster3> it seems the bootm address maybe wrong
Oct 10 10:46:35 * persia grumbles about cannot-redistribute clauses, and retailers who remove all such software when selling devices, even though that makes them useless :(
Oct 10 10:47:42 <ogra_ac> dont buy such hw then :P
Oct 10 10:48:32 <persia> But it cost half the price of the Dynabook AZ, and amitk might have a working kernel for it...
Oct 10 10:48:46 <persia> (plus the Dynabook AZ has *even more* unredistributable software)
Oct 10 10:49:01 <ogra_ac> the dynabook has a working kernel too :P
Oct 10 10:49:41 <persia> 2.6.36?
Oct 10 10:50:38 <persia> Anyway, it's not that hard to download the recovery image, and reinstall from the vendor (although I kinda wish the instructions didn't expect you had a working device to use to build the recovery image to recover the non-working device, but ...)
Oct 10 10:53:45 <ogra_ac> no, 2.6.29 but sources are public
Oct 10 10:57:44 <persia> I've public working Ubuntuised 2.6.29 sources, plus a known tree that is targeting 2.6.36 that *should* work.  Mind you, I still end up with unredistributable firmware for the WiFi, but...
Oct 10 11:09:35 <persia> Hrm.  This might be going back to the shop tomorrow.  Full reinstall from the vendor site, and still no working WiFi :(
Oct 10 11:10:54 <ogra_ac> sad
Oct 10 11:11:08 <ogra_ac> got a link with specs and pics ?
Oct 10 11:11:23 <ogra_ac> oh !
Oct 10 11:11:24 <persia> To the PC-Z1?
Oct 10 11:11:31 <persia> There's heaps of them.
Oct 10 11:11:33 * ogra_ac just found a flashlite that might run on the ac100
Oct 10 11:11:40 <persia> Nifty.
Oct 10 11:11:53 <ogra_ac> extracted from the netwalker apparently :)
Oct 10 11:12:11 <persia> This is (theoretically) the same device I dropped in my sink in April, except this one doesn't work :(
Oct 10 11:12:20 <ogra_ac> ah
Oct 10 11:12:44 <persia> Strange.  The Netwalker doesn't ship with Flash: it's a bonus for registering for use.  Someone broke terms of service.
Oct 10 11:13:26 <ogra_ac> http://www2.jkkmobile.com/FlashLite3.1_Firefox_plugin.tar.gz
Oct 10 11:13:31 <persia> Be warned that it will be an ARMv5 binary.  Ought work, but may not have the optimisations you'd prefer.
Oct 10 11:13:41 <ogra_ac> http://carrypad.com/2010/10/02/coming-to-you-from-ubuntu-on-the-arm-based-ac100-its-working-well/
Oct 10 11:13:46 <ogra_ac> from the comments there
Oct 10 11:13:56 <persia> Oh, yeah, that there site often seems to ignore redistribution provisions of licenses.  handy in many ways.
Oct 10 11:13:57 <ogra_ac> i havent tried it yet but got the tarball on disk
Oct 10 11:14:06 <ogra_ac> all help is in japanese :P
Oct 10 11:14:30 <ogra_ac> even the script comments in the install script are
Oct 10 11:14:30 <persia> Of course.  Why would anyone want anything less concise?
Oct 10 11:14:39 <ogra_ac> haha
Oct 10 11:15:09 <persia> I can recommend some books to learn how to read, if you like ... :p
Oct 10 11:16:02 <ogra_ac> nah, looking at the code most stuff is easy to figure out
Oct 10 11:17:13 <persia> See, Japanese is intuitive, like all good iconographic languages.
Oct 10 11:17:41 <persia> Plus, you're already used to verb-at-the-end-of-the-sentence-placing grammer :p
Oct 10 11:18:05 <armin76> ogra_ac: can't you use gnash or swfdec?
Oct 10 11:18:43 <ogra_ac> armin76, you might, havent tried it yet
Oct 10 11:19:08 * ogra_ac isnt after flash so much i just dont say no if i find it :)
Oct 10 15:20:39 <persia> ogra_ac, So, for all my whining earlier, the solution turned out to be me discovering that Fn+1 turns on and off WiFi :)
Oct 10 15:22:44 <ogra_ac> lol
Oct 10 15:22:54 <ogra_ac> arent HW keys fun
Oct 10 15:24:33 <persia> I guess.  If nothing else I've verified the OS restore procedure, enabled support for my USB ethernet, and practiced reading (even learned some new grammar to understand a post on a gentoo forum having the same issue)
Oct 10 15:31:05 <lag> ogra_ac: Are you still in Tx?
Oct 10 15:31:57 <ogra_ac> lag, nope
Oct 10 15:32:01 <ogra_ac> home again
Oct 10 15:34:23 <lag> How did everything go?
Oct 10 15:35:40 <persia> lag!  You'd know.  If I have a git tree, how do I get a kernel .deb?
Oct 10 15:36:45 <lag> Compile and package it :)
Oct 10 15:37:04 <persia> In that order?
Oct 10 15:37:39 <persia> I was kinda hoping there was some wiki doc that let me add some base debian/ to the results of git clone...
Oct 10 15:38:02 <lag> Which tree are you trying to complile?
Oct 10 15:38:07 <lag> compile*
Oct 10 15:38:18 <lag> And which arch?
Oct 10 15:38:28 <persia> http://git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=people/amitk/linux-2.6.git for armel
Oct 10 15:38:46 <lag> fakeroot debian/rules clean
Oct 10 15:38:58 <lag> fakeroot debian/rules binary-omap
Oct 10 15:39:06 <persia> There's no debian/ directory...
Oct 10 15:39:36 <lag> Then you can use make-kpkg
Oct 10 15:39:43 <persia> Is it safe to just copy a random kernel debian/ directory, and then fight with the ABI checker ?
Oct 10 15:40:30 <persia> Heh.  OK.  I remember how to do that.  I just thought there might be some Ubuntu way (and haven't built my own kernel since moving from sarge-in-process to warty)
Oct 10 15:41:01 <lag> The Ubuntu way is to build our own kernels, which do have a debian directory :)
Oct 10 15:41:33 <ogra_ac> lag, well, we have a release on time ... so it went well i'd say
Oct 10 15:41:51 <ogra_ac> lag, we still have to do an SRU for fixing the sudio issue though
Oct 10 15:41:57 <persia> lag, Doesn't support my hardware.  I'd be happy to use your kernels, if you want to build for my HW.
Oct 10 15:42:04 <lag> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev
Oct 10 15:43:07 <ogra_ac> persia, the upstream kernel has a script for rolling debs
Oct 10 15:43:30 <ogra_ac> make deb-pkg should be sufficient
Oct 10 15:43:49 * ogra_ac plans to use that for the ac100 kernel
Oct 10 15:44:11 * persia has an inbuilt distrust of all upstream methods of making .debs, regardless of upstream, and with full irrationality enabled
Oct 10 15:44:24 <ogra_ac> yeah, it wont be great
Oct 10 15:44:28 <ogra_ac> but give you a deb
Oct 10 15:44:38 <ogra_ac> with the files in the right places at least
Oct 10 15:44:51 <ogra_ac> i dont think it includes any maintainer scripts
Oct 10 15:45:11 <persia> Indeed.
Oct 10 15:45:21 <persia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild looks *almost* like the right bit.
Oct 10 15:45:40 <lag> Yep
Oct 10 15:46:08 <lag> The one in our repos is broken though
Oct 10 15:46:18 <lag> You need the latest version
Oct 10 15:46:24 <lag> You can get it from the Debian repos
Oct 10 15:46:26 <persia> What?
Oct 10 15:46:39 <persia> Why didn't that get updated?
Oct 10 15:47:03 <lag> *shrugs*
Oct 10 15:47:15 <lag> Ask userspace
Oct 10 15:47:28 <ogra_ac> because nobody encourages custom kernel builds ?
Oct 10 15:48:11 <persia> Yeah, I know.  Part of why I switched to Ubuntu was a blog comment about never compiling one's own kernels.
Oct 10 15:48:33 <persia> (and now I'm at it again anyway)
Oct 10 15:49:00 <ogra_ac> bad HW choice :)
Oct 10 15:49:53 <armin76> rofl
Oct 10 15:51:07 <lag> I'm off for something to eat
Oct 10 15:51:11 <lag> Enjoy
Oct 10 15:54:25 <persia> ogra_ac, At least it ships with Ubuntu, unlike what you're currently using :p
Oct 10 15:54:44 * persia is careful to not so denigrate ogra or ogra_cmpc
Oct 10 15:54:55 <ogra_ac> heh
Oct 10 15:55:14 * ogra_ac just built an androidless kernel
Oct 10 15:55:29 <ogra_ac> will test that after dinner
Oct 10 15:56:14 * persia will finish building kernels in the morning, having a great desire to hide from the side-effects of having just edited wiki.ubuntu.com/ 
Oct 10 15:56:33 <ogra_ac> heh
Oct 10 20:13:38 <marvin24_DT> anyone with a tegra harmony board here?
Oct 10 20:16:09 <marvin24_DT> I'm just wondering if the u-boot code at git.chromium.org/u-boot.git actually boots
Oct 10 20:25:48 <armin76> marvin24_DT: i have, didn't work for me
Oct 10 20:26:04 <armin76> marvin24_DT: ojn is one of the ppl doing the work
Oct 10 20:26:12 <marvin24_DT> armin76: when did you tried it?
Oct 10 20:26:34 <armin76> one/two weeks ago
Oct 10 20:28:28 <marvin24_DT> the i2c and keyboard driver was added just a few (4-5) days ago
Oct 10 20:28:52 <marvin24_DT> seems that seaboard was tested and worked
Oct 10 20:29:13 <armin76> yeah, saw that
Oct 10 20:43:50 <armin76> marvin24: also there's no doc about setting it up, so...
Oct 10 20:45:00 <armin76> marvin24_DT: i tested it right now, ojn told me passing the uboot binary as kernel should do it, but nothing shows up
Oct 10 20:46:09 <marvin24_DT> I though it should be loaded as a bootloader
Oct 10 20:46:17 <marvin24_DT> nvflash --bl
Oct 10 20:47:09 <armin76> you sure that wouldn't brick it?
Oct 10 20:47:34 <marvin24_DT> the --bl command does not flash anything, it loads into the memory
Oct 10 20:47:50 <marvin24_DT> like nvflash -w --bl uboot.bin --go
Oct 10 20:48:19 <marvin24_DT> I do this on an other board every day
Oct 10 20:50:16 <armin76> downloading bootloader -- load address: 0x108000 entry point: 0x108000
Oct 10 20:50:16 <armin76> sending file: /tmp/ye.bin
Oct 10 20:50:16 <armin76> - 791694/791694 bytes sent
Oct 10 20:50:16 <armin76> /tmp/ye.bin sent successfully
Oct 10 20:50:16 <armin76> waiting for bootloader to initialize
Oct 10 20:50:34 <armin76> it stays there
Oct 10 20:51:37 <marvin24_DT> nothing on the console?
Oct 10 20:51:43 <armin76> nope
Oct 10 20:51:44 <marvin24_DT> mmh
Oct 10 20:51:50 <marvin24_DT> ok, thanks!
Oct 10 20:52:04 <armin76> yw
Oct 10 20:54:44 <armin76> marvin24_DT: what is a seaboard?
Oct 10 21:04:21 <marvin24_DT> armin76: seems that there are many (>5) development boards made by nvidia
Oct 10 21:04:38 <marvin24_DT> there is no official list of it I know of
Oct 10 21:04:56 <armin76> ah
Oct 10 21:05:02 <armin76> k, thanks
Oct 10 21:05:43 <marvin24_DT> looks like harmony is one of the first production boards
Oct 10 21:05:51 <marvin24_DT> and seaboard is newer
Oct 10 21:06:56 <armin76> yep
Oct 10 21:07:03 <armin76> there's also whistle
Oct 10 21:07:48 <marvin24_DT> and e116x (from u-boot tree)
Oct 11 01:27:14 <DanaG> http://www.slashgear.com/pandaboard-offers-ti-cortex-a9-omap4-to-imaginative-devs-04105681/
Oct 11 01:27:16 <DanaG> Spiffy.
Oct 11 01:27:23 <DanaG> So the Pandaboard is really close.
Oct 11 01:30:04 <DanaG> Though, it looks like form-factor may be just different enough to make it incompatible with Beagle expansion boards.
Oct 11 01:30:32 <persia> http://pandaboard.org/ is already taking developer applications...
Oct 11 01:31:54 <DanaG> Is the "retail availability" date still NDA?
Oct 11 01:32:06 <persia> No idea :)
Oct 11 01:32:30 <persia> As a result, I believe the answer is probably "Yes", because otherwise I would expect to have heard something.
Oct 11 01:39:54 <DanaG> That's a good answer.
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