**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 14 02:59:57 2010 Oct 14 07:40:36 morninge Oct 14 09:05:47 ogra: Hi Oliver, you came back after all :) Oct 14 09:06:27 ogra: I find something puzzling regarding the PPA. Oct 14 09:06:42 I wouldn't trust much communication until there's been no netsplit traffic for a while: sometimes stuff gets lots in the backscroll. Oct 14 09:07:14 persia: May I please ask _you_ about this PPA thing, then? Oct 14 09:07:50 I generally recommend asking questions generally of the channel. I'm unsure that this is the best channel for a PPA question, but I'll try. Otherwise, you can ask in #launchpad. Oct 14 09:08:11 persia: Ok; I move there. Oct 14 09:20:27 so the sound stuff doesnt work at all anymore :/ Oct 14 09:20:44 What have you done? Oct 14 09:21:02 lag, trying mathieus kernel, putting all new files in place Oct 14 09:21:26 Hmm Oct 14 09:21:30 all muted Oct 14 09:23:58 urgh Oct 14 09:24:17 ? Oct 14 09:24:19 a) i tried remotely .... my screen is all blue if i switch the monitor on Oct 14 09:24:29 Nice Oct 14 09:24:30 not sure what he did to that kernel package Oct 14 09:24:41 b) calling alsactl init makes it work Oct 14 09:24:43 I'm just looking now Oct 14 09:24:50 Is that correct? Oct 14 09:24:54 no Oct 14 09:25:14 * ogra reverts everything, it worked yesterday with distro kernel and my file without alsactl init Oct 14 09:25:39 What does cat /proc/asound/cards produce? Oct 14 09:25:46 ogra: panda sound still has problems? Oct 14 09:25:49 What was the link to the kernel he gave you? Oct 14 09:26:45 http://people.canonical.com/~mpoirier/linux-image-2.6.35-903-omap4_2.6.35-903.13+release3_armel.deb Oct 14 09:28:10 lag, before i had http://people.canonical.com/~roc/kernel/audio/linux-image-2.6.35-903-omap4_2.6.35-903.13+audio1_armel.deb installed Oct 14 09:28:23 just reinstalling that one Oct 14 09:28:26 That's Bryans kernel Oct 14 09:28:29 right Oct 14 09:28:39 and that one worked after the alsa-lib change Oct 14 09:28:55 i dont get why i would get that bright blue screen Oct 14 09:29:05 the patches dont touch anything related Oct 14 09:29:49 I'm trying to find the server which he built on Oct 14 09:29:58 But to no avail as yet Oct 14 09:30:31 sound/soc/omap/sdp4430.c , include/sound/soc.h and sound/soc/soc-core.c Oct 14 09:30:40 nothing should have any influence on my display Oct 14 09:30:44 I can't find any of his builds Oct 14 09:30:49 fun Oct 14 09:31:49 * ogra reboots into old kernel with old init files Oct 14 09:32:46 yup, login sound here Oct 14 09:32:53 * ogra checks the screen Oct 14 09:33:06 and netbook ui Oct 14 09:35:45 I can't find any up-to-date build? Oct 14 09:35:58 weird Oct 14 09:36:18 well, we need cooloneys kernel plus the bits from lrg Oct 14 09:36:42 i just need the names Oct 14 09:36:58 and i know cooloney built on one of your servers Oct 14 09:37:03 How different is cooloney's tree to the mainline? Oct 14 09:38:24 What if I applied lrg's patches to the current tree? Oct 14 09:38:43 you would be missing a ton of audio fixes Oct 14 09:38:48 afaik Oct 14 09:38:55 Ah Oct 14 09:38:56 oh, no, wait, i think they were applied Oct 14 09:39:02 please check the tree Oct 14 09:39:12 Yep Oct 14 09:39:14 not sure there was an upload with thgem though Oct 14 09:40:34 http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-maverick.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/ti-omap4 Oct 14 09:40:40 Is that all the patches? Oct 14 09:40:43 Or are there more? Oct 14 09:41:07 its like 70 patches and i cant find the merge request on the kernel ML Oct 14 09:41:32 RAAAAAHHHH !!!! Oct 14 09:41:46 * ogra freaks out about being CCed on all the kernel mails Oct 14 09:41:54 I HATE THAT ! Oct 14 09:42:15 We've had this discussion Oct 14 09:42:22 thanks to that they dont match the ML sort filter and end up in places i cant find them Oct 14 09:42:23 Not everyone reads the mailing list Oct 14 09:42:26 thats so annoying Oct 14 09:42:31 i do Oct 14 09:42:43 Good for you :) Oct 14 09:42:47 and i am sure that other people filter on ML headers too Oct 14 09:42:48 Perhaps you shouldn't Oct 14 09:42:49 ;) Oct 14 09:43:05 I have working filters Oct 14 09:43:06 ;) Oct 14 09:43:16 Anyway ... Oct 14 09:43:31 That current tree looks like it has loads of new audio patches Oct 14 09:43:47 lag, based on ML headers (like you should for LP mail ?) Oct 14 09:44:14 [Maverick] [ti-omap4] SRU: audio driver fixings Oct 14 09:44:16 I'd say ~90 patches Oct 14 09:44:34 applied and pushed by tim on the 6th Oct 14 09:44:37 In the ML/ Oct 14 09:44:38 ? Oct 14 09:44:50 yes Oct 14 09:45:41 Yes, they are applied Oct 14 09:45:47 good Oct 14 09:46:04 so only the naming patches from lrg are missing there Oct 14 09:46:21 could you roll me a kernel deb ? Oct 14 09:47:37 Of course Oct 14 09:47:41 merci :) Oct 14 09:47:55 * ogra meanwhile goes to find some breakfast Oct 14 09:48:21 we'll need GrueMaster (once he gets up) to confirm the switching works, he has a blaze Oct 14 09:50:21 There are only 4 patches right? Oct 14 09:55:25 ogra, jasper-initramfs/scripts/local-bottom/jasper_setup runs in initramfs, right? Oct 14 09:55:58 yes Oct 14 09:58:05 So, I think we can't enable universe via the python API there. Is there a script that runs in userspace, or do you think unsafe sed is better? Oct 14 10:00:56 you cant run apt-get update from there at all Oct 14 10:01:01 no networking in initrd Oct 14 10:01:30 so your apt-cache will be completely out of sync Oct 14 10:01:32 Oh, I don't care about apt-get update. Oct 14 10:01:40 That's fine. Oct 14 10:01:45 i do Oct 14 10:01:53 Everything will be able to tell the apt-cache is out of date because of timestamps. Oct 14 10:02:11 if a user calls apt-get install i dont want him to be greeted with an out of sync cache error Oct 14 10:02:38 thats about the first impression not about technical issues Oct 14 10:03:01 * persia digs into oem-config code Oct 14 10:03:34 i think apt-setup is only called from oem-config in case you also run tasksel Oct 14 10:03:41 which we dont want in our setup Oct 14 10:03:57 i'm not sure they are separate Oct 14 10:55:27 ogra_ac: I also have Blue screen! Oct 14 10:55:43 even with the new kernel ? Oct 14 10:55:45 wow Oct 14 10:56:01 The latest kernel Oct 14 10:56:10 We're screwed Oct 14 10:56:13 i dont get how the soc changes can affect hdmi Oct 14 10:56:52 I don't think it was the SoC changes Oct 14 10:56:55 especially since its only a few lines adding names Oct 14 10:57:09 Let me roll there kernel without lrgs patches Oct 14 10:57:12 well, the kernel on the release image works Oct 14 10:57:25 Which was compiled when? Oct 14 10:57:31 and i think the 90 sound patches are in there Oct 14 10:57:53 and cooloneys test kernel works for me too Oct 14 10:58:02 without any issues Oct 14 10:58:24 there was one patch afterwards ... Oct 14 10:58:31 one sec, let me find it Oct 14 10:58:58 [Maverick] [ti-omap4] [SRU] UBUNTU: [Config] enable passing all kernel command line to init Oct 14 10:59:01 7 days ago Mythri P K OMAP4:DSS:HDMI:Fix for default boot on HDMI with ES2.0 Oct 14 10:59:07 Thu, 7 Oct 2010 Oct 14 10:59:15 lag, oh, wait Oct 14 10:59:24 which image do you use ? Oct 14 10:59:40 x-loader changed along with that patch Oct 14 10:59:46 Ah Oct 14 10:59:54 I'm using the daily build Oct 14 10:59:54 you need to use the new image Oct 14 11:00:10 But with my own x-loader Oct 14 11:00:13 Whould the daily build work? Oct 14 11:00:18 right, x-loader and the Mythri P K HDMI patch had to be applied at the same time Oct 14 11:00:32 the daily from 7th should Oct 14 11:01:02 Okay, re-DDing Oct 14 11:01:30 (it should be the release image, we didnt re-roll) Oct 14 11:18:02 ogra: Okay, my blue screen has disappeared momentarily Oct 14 11:18:10 ogra: Why did you get a blue screen? Oct 14 11:18:18 ogra: Were you using the old x-loader too/ Oct 14 11:20:05 lag, yeah Oct 14 11:20:38 i still use the same image, upgraded since RC and we dont upgrade x-loader (as you wouldnt upgarde a PC BIOS) Oct 14 11:22:01 ok, updated x-loader Oct 14 11:22:12 let me try with mathieus kernel again Oct 14 11:22:47 If it doesn't work, I have a working one here Oct 14 11:22:57 k Oct 14 11:23:04 i suspect it will work now Oct 14 11:24:11 *twiddle* Oct 14 11:24:23 Which board do you have? Oct 14 11:24:28 8 layer? Oct 14 11:24:32 2.1 Oct 14 11:24:45 I am sooooo behind on boards :( Oct 14 11:24:51 and 8 layer 2.0 and a special 2.1 with DVI wiring added Oct 14 11:25:00 2.0 8 layer is fine Oct 14 11:25:12 I only have a 6 layer Oct 14 11:25:23 oh, yeah, we need to upgrade you Oct 14 11:25:32 No kidding Oct 14 11:25:38 Why have I been left behind Oct 14 11:25:38 ask rsalveti, i thinnk he has a patched u-boot and kernel package Oct 14 11:25:50 because we got limited amounts of HW Oct 14 11:25:51 I should always have the most up to date board! Oct 14 11:26:10 And who has priority? Oct 14 11:26:11 and i think mathieu got the new one because he didnt have one at all Oct 14 11:26:20 Surely the kernel is important to you? Oct 14 11:26:37 Mathieu is normally OMAP3 Oct 14 11:26:44 cooloney has the 2.1 and the 2.1+DVI Oct 14 11:27:01 you should get his 8 layer Oct 14 11:27:02 ogra: how old are 2.1 boards? Oct 14 11:27:09 about a week Oct 14 11:27:20 * hrw wonder which ver will land in my hands Oct 14 11:27:21 we only got fout of them directly handed out Oct 14 11:27:34 hrw, pray its not a 6 layer Oct 14 11:28:01 lag, we'll get more borads within the next few weeks Oct 14 11:28:07 ogra: I was told that it will es2.0 8layer minimum Oct 14 11:28:07 enough for everyone i hope Oct 14 11:28:11 I want 2.2 Oct 14 11:28:23 lag, well, then get a soldering iron :P Oct 14 11:28:35 and a list from TI what will be on 2.2 Oct 14 11:28:41 good thing is that I will be able to run anything not exactly ubuntu on it D: Oct 14 11:28:41 For future h/w releases I really should have the latest boards Oct 14 11:28:48 they wont go to production for a while :) Oct 14 11:28:54 It was a jk Oct 14 11:28:58 2.1 is what goes out Oct 14 11:29:14 and i hope we wont see any HW upgrade for a while now Oct 14 11:29:25 But as the OMAP4 kernel team representative I should be on the priority list Oct 14 11:30:07 lag, well, cooloney is *the* OMAP4 representative i was told Oct 14 11:30:17 fight, fight! Oct 14 11:30:17 we can swap that indeed Oct 14 11:30:24 Who told you that? Oct 14 11:30:33 that was decided at UDS iirc Oct 14 11:30:45 Before I joined :) Oct 14 11:30:48 right Oct 14 11:31:09 Well there's a new daddy in town ;) Oct 14 11:31:14 yeah Oct 14 11:31:19 rsalveti: let me know if my response about the P8 BeagleBoard-xM memory was at all confusing. you should swap out MLO and see if your problem goes away.. Oct 14 11:31:26 lets shuffle responsibilities at UDS Oct 14 11:31:37 By all means Oct 14 11:34:53 hmm, i think i trashed my panda image :/ Oct 14 11:34:58 ah, no Oct 14 11:35:02 now it boots Oct 14 11:38:07 lag and ogra, are you guys talking about my panda toy? -:) Oct 14 11:38:27 cooloney, hehe, we do Oct 14 11:39:06 Yep yep Oct 14 11:41:14 yeah, I got 2 panda boards now. actually one is 2.1+DVI Oct 14 11:41:30 oh, you dont have the 2.0 anymore ? Oct 14 11:41:48 and one is 2.0 Oct 14 11:41:56 yeah, the 8 layers 2.0 Oct 14 11:42:08 i thought you got a normal 2.1 too Oct 14 11:42:17 no sound here :/ Oct 14 11:42:44 ogra: oh, i returned that to chris, as 2.1+DVI is enough Oct 14 11:43:02 sigh Oct 14 11:43:04 but i have to keep 2.0, since we need to support 2.0, right? Oct 14 11:43:10 so with the old kernel it all worked Oct 14 11:43:21 with the new kernel i have to call aslactl init *again* Oct 14 11:43:32 * ogra doesnt get that Oct 14 11:43:56 and i cant esaily downgrade, hrm Oct 14 11:44:14 ogra: just before we left, i got 3 boards -> 2.0, 2.1 and 2.1+dvi Oct 14 11:44:24 yeah Oct 14 11:44:33 ogra: after sent your guys to airport, we were back to hotel Oct 14 11:44:42 chris called GrueMaster Oct 14 11:44:44 ah Oct 14 11:45:01 chris showed up and i returned the normal 2.1 to him Oct 14 11:45:14 so i just have 2 boards. one old 2.0 and a 2.1+dvi Oct 14 11:45:20 yup Oct 14 11:46:41 so lag, do you wanna i give you my board? i think you got 2.0 board Oct 14 11:46:58 ogra: how come sound doesn't work? Oct 14 11:47:07 ogra: doesn't work with new kernel? Oct 14 11:47:08 cooloney, it never worked ? Oct 14 11:47:20 only partially Oct 14 11:47:38 we're trying to fix the last bits since beginning of the week Oct 14 11:47:45 oh, i mean even using your alsactl trick, it doesn't work? Oct 14 11:47:52 sure it does Oct 14 11:47:56 ogra: ok, got it. Oct 14 11:48:00 but the alsactl call is wrong Oct 14 11:48:28 ogra: so any idea about our plan? Oct 14 11:48:39 yes, look at the bug Oct 14 11:48:50 lag, documented everything Oct 14 11:48:50 ok, let me check Oct 14 11:49:02 ogra and lag, thanks Oct 14 11:52:32 GRRR Oct 14 11:52:36 no sound at all Oct 14 11:52:46 not even after alsactl init now Oct 14 11:55:10 HA Oct 14 11:55:17 putting my omap4 file back works Oct 14 11:55:46 so one step at a time now Oct 14 11:56:02 keeping everything as is and upgrading to mpoiriers kernel Oct 14 11:56:05 :) Oct 14 11:56:25 cooloney: I don't want your board Oct 14 11:56:27 (and adjusting the name in 00main indeed) Oct 14 11:56:41 cooloney: I'll wait for the next batch Oct 14 12:03:19 lag: oh, panda 2.2? heh Oct 14 12:03:52 cooloney: No, just the new batch of 2.1's Oct 14 12:03:59 ogra: did liam provide the patch to export platform name from kernel to userspace Oct 14 12:04:10 lag, confriming, with the new kernel it doesnt work at all Oct 14 12:04:11 lag: yeah, indeed. Oct 14 12:04:26 ogra: which kernel? Oct 14 12:04:26 cooloney, yes, thats what i'm testing here Oct 14 12:04:47 ogra: Well that's not good! Oct 14 12:04:51 ogra: ok, where is the patch from liam Oct 14 12:04:53 no Oct 14 12:05:00 I don't know which kernel he rolled Oct 14 12:05:04 Do you want to try mine? Oct 14 12:05:08 yes Oct 14 12:05:11 In case it's any different Oct 14 12:05:16 Okay, wait one Oct 14 12:05:30 i know which kernel he rolled ... 2.6.35-903-omap4 #13+release3 Oct 14 12:05:34 :P Oct 14 12:05:38 its release3 :) Oct 14 12:06:00 (i dont know what release3 is supposed to mean though) Oct 14 12:07:33 ogra: Uploading Oct 14 12:07:45 My point exactly Oct 14 12:08:06 I don't think it has any of the audio patches in Oct 14 12:08:08 Doh! Oct 14 12:08:21 The one he rolled was *.13* Oct 14 12:08:29 Mine is *.15* Oct 14 12:08:46 That would explain it Oct 14 12:08:55 * lag is uploading Oct 14 12:09:02 Well, my kernel is :) Oct 14 12:10:30 ogra: I'll let you know when it's finished uploading: http://people.canonical.com/~ljones/lp637947-maverick/ Oct 14 12:10:42 oki Oct 14 12:11:33 the alsa-lib fix is uploaded btw Oct 14 12:12:08 we'll need some testers to confirm it works and can go to -updates (its in -proposed now) Oct 14 12:13:37 ogra: i can try that on my board Oct 14 12:13:54 cooloney, use the 00main and omap4 files from the bug Oct 14 12:13:57 ogra, Have you prepared the candidate alsa-utils bit yet (the new conf file and 00main changes)? Oct 14 12:14:12 persia, not until i know they work Oct 14 12:14:30 Ah, so you're waiting for the alsa-lib bit to be verified? Makes sense. Oct 14 12:14:43 ogra: oh, if you didn't changed those 2 files since Dallas trip, I've already installed them on my board Oct 14 12:14:54 persia, to test the switching i need the new kernel, but the one i got didnt include cooloney's 90 audio patches Oct 14 12:15:26 cooloney, great, with the new alsa-lib it should work without alsactl init Oct 14 12:15:29 ogra: i think lag's kernel contains those audio patches Oct 14 12:15:29 Oh, I somehow missed that the alsa-utils bit depended on the kernel bit. Sorry for the poorly-timed poke. Oct 14 12:15:39 cooloney, right, thats what i'm waiting for Oct 14 12:15:54 ogra: ok, so i just need to update my alsa-lib on board? Oct 14 12:15:58 persia, well, my alsa-libs bit doesnt but that works only for panda Oct 14 12:16:14 what we need is the switching piece based on boardname Oct 14 12:16:22 and thats what we try to test atm Oct 14 12:16:32 cooloney, from maverick-proposed, yes Oct 14 12:16:50 ogra: ok, cool. let me upgrade Oct 14 12:17:27 cooloney, bug 652035 is the one waiting for test results Oct 14 12:17:29 Launchpad bug 652035 in alsa-lib (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "libasound2 not finding usb sound card (affects: 2) (heat: 18)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/652035 Oct 14 12:17:57 ogra, Right. I just was chatting with crimsun earlier, and added the task to the other bug (637...) based on what he was saying. Oct 14 12:18:29 right Oct 14 12:18:47 i'll prepare my stuff today as soon as i can prove it works on the panda at least Oct 14 12:18:56 we'll need GrueMaster for the blaze test Oct 14 12:19:20 Right. Oct 14 12:19:25 btw, i suspect the fix also fixes dove Oct 14 12:19:32 we should ask NCommander to try Oct 14 12:19:46 ogra: Done Oct 14 12:20:17 lag, you guys dont need to upload the headers every time :) Oct 14 12:20:35 i wont compile anything against the test packages :) Oct 14 12:20:37 It's automatic Oct 14 12:21:01 ah Oct 14 12:21:04 scp linux-* Oct 14 12:21:09 i thought you do that with scp Oct 14 12:21:29 right, just use scp linux-image* Oct 14 12:21:43 What does it matter? Oct 14 12:21:56 saves time and bandwith Oct 14 12:22:06 100% 573KB 573.3KB/s 00:00 Oct 14 12:24:34 573KB? Are you sure that's the file you wanted? Oct 14 12:24:56 well, at least it took no time :P Oct 14 12:25:24 everyone cross your fingers :) Oct 14 12:25:27 * ogra reboots Oct 14 12:26:51 lag, hmm Oct 14 12:26:58 lag, are you sure you applied the patches ? Oct 14 12:27:15 my card is still named SDP4430 with your kernel Oct 14 12:27:28 2 secs Oct 14 12:27:29 should be Panda Oct 14 12:27:52 ogra@panda:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards Oct 14 12:27:52 0 [SDP4430 ]: SDP4430 - SDP4430 Oct 14 12:27:52 TI OMAP4 SDP4430 Board Oct 14 12:27:56 yeah, no name change Oct 14 12:28:36 behind the colon it should be: OMAP4 - Panda Oct 14 12:29:47 http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=lag/ubuntu-maverick.git;a=commit;h=39f15b5e3ac8c486bcc8bcf4376b7d2e8122517b Oct 14 12:29:51 They're applied Oct 14 12:29:58 Maybe something went wrong with the build Oct 14 12:30:00 Let me try again Oct 14 12:30:24 err Oct 14 12:30:29 whats these abe changes ? Oct 14 12:31:28 ref: lrg's email 12/10/10 @ 11:45 Oct 14 12:33:45 ah, k Oct 14 12:33:53 he does weird testing though Oct 14 12:34:01 pretty hackish :P Oct 14 12:34:44 but ok, i'll trust him Oct 14 12:34:56 he should know what the mixer values should be Oct 14 12:35:20 though i dont get why the name change doesnt work now Oct 14 12:35:36 As I said, it's probably a build error Oct 14 12:35:42 I am re-compiling Oct 14 12:35:47 ok Oct 14 12:35:49 Shouldn't be too long Oct 14 12:36:30 k Oct 14 12:36:36 i'll go play with my ac100 Oct 14 12:36:38 :) Oct 14 13:16:05 rsalveti, hey Oct 14 13:25:11 ogra: The latest kernel is up by the way Oct 14 13:25:15 (and has been for a while) Oct 14 13:28:58 pulling, thanks Oct 14 13:35:13 ok, rebooting, lets see Oct 14 13:35:24 (or hear rather) Oct 14 13:39:12 the names changed Oct 14 13:39:19 but it doesnt work :( Oct 14 13:40:13 lag, could i get a build with *only* the name changes ? Oct 14 13:41:33 You mean without all the other audio patches? Oct 14 13:41:58 Or without his other 2 patches? Oct 14 13:42:15 right Oct 14 13:42:23 without any patches to the abe files Oct 14 13:42:41 i have to call alsactl init manually again with your kernel Oct 14 13:42:47 then it works Oct 14 13:43:01 and i cant imagine that to be caused by the name changes Oct 14 13:44:04 sound/soc/omap/abe/abe_dat.c , sound/soc/omap/abe/abe_def.h and sound/soc/omap/omap-abe-dsp.c dropped please Oct 14 13:44:14 (the changes, not the files indeed :) ) Oct 14 13:46:26 oh, shriek ! Oct 14 13:47:26 * ogra just found a spares alsactl init in one of the alsa files Oct 14 13:47:33 *sparse Oct 14 13:47:48 Does that mean you don't want me to re-compile yet? Oct 14 13:47:58 yes, wait a sec Oct 14 13:48:06 i have to test the old kernel again Oct 14 13:48:27 GAH Oct 14 13:49:37 lag, leave it i think i'll haver to additionally apply a hack to alsa-utils Oct 14 13:50:10 seems the alsa-lib fix only fixed it partitally Oct 14 13:50:14 Okay Oct 14 13:50:18 Let me know if you need me Oct 14 13:50:24 will do Oct 14 13:50:32 but i think kernel wise we're fine now Oct 14 13:53:11 ogra: hey Oct 14 13:55:19 * rsalveti reading backlog Oct 14 13:57:22 rsalveti, not about the backlog :) Oct 14 13:57:47 rsalveti, about the "oem-config doesnt start in my rootstock images OMG the world ends !!!" issue :) Oct 14 13:58:00 haha Oct 14 13:58:06 rsalveti, i ran into a similar issue with ac100 users ... Oct 14 13:58:20 we need to use --numeric-owner in tar Oct 14 13:58:31 sure, saw that while reading backlog Oct 14 13:58:42 I have an exclusive todo list just for rootstock :-) Oct 14 13:58:50 else it will replace the UIDs and GIDs with the ones from /etc/passwd and group from the host machine Oct 14 13:58:52 but I can push at least this fix for now Oct 14 13:59:15 ah, you already saw it, k Oct 14 13:59:38 ogra: so, ac100 users are using rootstock? Oct 14 13:59:51 no, but a tarred up rootfs Oct 14 14:00:04 and i suddenly got users with exactly the same issues Oct 14 14:00:22 using --numeric-owner on packing and unpacking fixed it Oct 14 14:00:22 hm, ok Oct 14 14:00:28 yeah Oct 14 14:01:37 ogra: so, how is the audio thing going now? Oct 14 14:01:57 bad, we still need the init, but at least it gets respected in the right place now Oct 14 14:02:07 i'm preparing patches now Oct 14 14:03:47 ogra: reading the above exchange, should I undertand the patched kernel that was produced for you didn't work ? Oct 14 14:04:25 mpoirier, you based on the wrong version and were missing about 90 audio patches apparently Oct 14 14:04:41 it didnt work for me for other reasons based on my own stupidity though Oct 14 14:05:01 ogra: I used the latest maverick kernel Oct 14 14:05:22 lag said you used 13 while 15 is current Oct 14 14:06:01 ogra: yes indeed that where the current code is but I pulled all the audio patches. Oct 14 14:06:11 ah Oct 14 14:06:15 ah Oct 14 14:06:49 the kernel I produced for you has all the latest audio patches. Oct 14 14:07:46 mpoirier: ogra: at least 2.6.35-903.13 is a quite old one Oct 14 14:08:06 mpoirier: why did you pulled? Oct 14 14:08:21 it's about a couple of weeks old. Oct 14 14:08:22 you should just use based on what's in the repo Oct 14 14:09:06 simply 'cause I had it on my machine already and it was quick to recompile. Oct 14 14:09:24 you should really follows our kernel tree, in a way it's easy to identify the kernel we're using Oct 14 14:09:30 to avoid problems like these Oct 14 14:09:56 we don't know what else you have on your kernel, so it's not that great to test it Oct 14 14:10:43 I agree the in this case, it was impossible for you to know I pulled the audio patches. Oct 14 14:11:38 lag, so feel free to prepare an upload, i'll prepare an alsa-utils patch now Oct 14 14:12:08 and this kernel probably misses b5485d193f8a422901fe7e401542950970121860, in a way that breaks the display Oct 14 14:13:12 rsalveti, no it has it ... i missed the new x-loader though Oct 14 14:13:47 which left me with a bright blue screen Oct 14 14:14:15 ogra: What is it you want? Oct 14 14:14:27 lag, an upload of what i just tested Oct 14 14:14:29 All the audio patches plus the _two_ name change patches? Oct 14 14:14:43 well, whatever you just gave me works :) Oct 14 14:14:47 Sorry, save me reading though the backlog Oct 14 14:14:52 Awesome! Oct 14 14:14:59 Okay, I'll get it pushed Oct 14 14:15:04 Well done :) Oct 14 14:15:10 lag, so that should be uploaded, i'll roll the alsa-utils change now Oct 14 14:15:14 Will Maverick work out-of-the-box now? Oct 14 14:16:32 yes Oct 14 14:16:46 :D Oct 14 14:17:07 No. Oct 14 14:17:15 Maverick will work just-after-update Oct 14 14:17:46 (minor, but important distinction, as support folk have to remember to ask "Have you installed all the updates") Oct 14 14:19:38 ogra: but you were using the newer x-loader already Oct 14 14:19:48 I believe, if you're using the released image as base Oct 14 14:19:59 rsalveti, i used the RC Oct 14 14:20:12 heheh, that's a problem :-) Oct 14 14:21:37 lag: and what are the needed changes at the kernel? Oct 14 14:22:19 jkridner|work1: cool, will test with this x-loader and see if it works better Oct 14 14:22:34 thanks for the info Oct 14 14:22:53 Driver name export and some maximum volume amendments Oct 14 14:24:22 hm, cool, not so many changed lines I believe Oct 14 14:28:45 ogra: I just don't understand yet why you still need to call alsactl init Oct 14 14:31:18 rsalveti, Because the SRU for that bug isn't in -updates yet. Oct 14 14:33:17 persia: oliver said he tested with the fix from this bug, and still didn't work Oct 14 14:34:04 It needs three pieces. the kernel bits lag just did, the alsactl stuff crimsun uploaded earlier, and the alsa-utils stuff ogra was preparing. Oct 14 14:34:27 leading to ogra's 14:12 comment about everything working. Oct 14 14:34:49 persia: the alsa-utils stuff *is the* alsactl init Oct 14 14:34:58 that's the one I don't yet understand why we need it Oct 14 14:35:30 http://launchpadlibrarian.net/57601862/alsa-utils.patch Oct 14 14:35:56 rsalveti, No, alsa-lib is alsactl. alsa-utils is /usr/share/alsa/init/ Oct 14 14:36:28 Where's that from? That's not the patch to 00main I was expecting. Oct 14 14:36:38 persia: read the bug Oct 14 14:36:50 Which one? Oct 14 14:36:51 ogra posted the latest changes at the end Oct 14 14:37:05 bug 637947 Oct 14 14:37:08 Launchpad bug 637947 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 3 other projects) "no sound devices on current ES2.0 boards (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 26)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/637947 Oct 14 14:38:04 That's not a complete patch. Alsa-utils needs the bits from comment #36 and comment #37 as well. Oct 14 14:38:51 (although, really comment #36 should be a patch rather than a blob) Oct 14 14:38:58 uploaded Oct 14 14:39:07 persia: yeah, but I still don't get why we need this alsactl init stuff Oct 14 14:39:07 Same as comment #24 Oct 14 14:39:16 http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/alsa-utils/ubuntu.new/revision/70 Oct 14 14:39:17 The comment #40 thing? Oct 14 14:39:32 rsalveti, me neither, thats stuff to figure out in natty Oct 14 14:39:42 Why didn't the 652035 patch work? Oct 14 14:39:50 persia, it does Oct 14 14:39:58 persia: yeah, the link I sent you Oct 14 14:40:03 alsactl init at that place did never work before Oct 14 14:40:06 So, why do you need 637947/comment 40? Oct 14 14:40:14 persia, no idea Oct 14 14:40:21 but its still needed Oct 14 14:40:27 Ah, right. That's broken for complicated reasons we don't understand. I can live with that for now. Oct 14 14:40:32 right Oct 14 14:40:41 we just need the fix in -updates on monday Oct 14 14:40:51 thats a requirement Oct 14 14:41:04 lag, ^^^ same goes for the kernel btw Oct 14 14:41:04 The final solution is close enough to comment #13 that I'm very much happy with everyone for doing it that way :) Oct 14 14:41:12 right Oct 14 14:41:21 natty will make everything better Oct 14 14:41:39 the scary bit will likely become the tablet ;) Oct 14 14:41:40 In a completely different way, because of UCM (or parts thereof). Oct 14 14:41:51 nobody knows what the soundcard is called on that Oct 14 14:42:03 heh. Oct 14 14:42:05 but thats my personal headdache Oct 14 14:42:26 since i'm the only one having a tablet to test (and no poroper kernel yet) Oct 14 14:43:35 ogra: were you able to touch it since last week? Oct 14 14:43:41 rsalveti, nope Oct 14 14:43:53 and to be honest i'm not in a hurry Oct 14 14:44:02 yeah, understand Oct 14 14:44:10 if you read the kernel diff you'll be scared :-) Oct 14 14:44:25 i'll need to roll a kernel package for it from the tarball i have Oct 14 14:44:39 but first need to make up a proper ubuntuized config Oct 14 14:45:03 their kernel doesnt even have lzma enabled so ubuntu initrd doesnt work Oct 14 14:45:10 ogra: I can try to create a deb file for you if you want Oct 14 14:45:14 based on our kernel Oct 14 14:45:22 and applying just the diff Oct 14 14:45:23 and i dont want to have to repack the initrd every time i try something Oct 14 14:45:43 let me see if I still have the tarball Oct 14 14:45:44 well, if that boots and you feel like doing that work :) Oct 14 14:45:58 i can push it to chinstrap worst case Oct 14 14:46:16 i habe the SD somewhere in the unpacked part of my luggage Oct 14 14:46:42 yeah, I have it: tablet_kernel.tgz Oct 14 14:47:33 yep, thats the one Oct 14 14:47:40 * ogra relocates Oct 14 14:47:58 ogra: I can't test blaze yet. I only have an ES1. Oct 14 14:48:49 yeah, true :-( Oct 14 14:48:54 oh, i thought you could take the CPU board with you Oct 14 14:49:06 but I believe vstehle can :-) Oct 14 14:52:07 Sent to kernel team ML Oct 14 14:54:23 with an urgecy tag i hope Oct 14 14:54:30 *urgency Oct 14 14:55:07 lag: did you create the SRU? Oct 14 14:55:33 A do what now? Oct 14 14:55:33 rsalveti, lets wait until everything is in the queue Oct 14 14:55:49 Wiki please? Oct 14 14:55:53 lag, subscribe the SRU team to the bug Oct 14 14:56:16 lag, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates Oct 14 14:59:54 lag, after the upload to -proposed we need to subscribe ubuntu-sru ... they will let it into -proposed Oct 14 15:00:22 then it needs at least two positive comments on the bug from testers to make it to -updates Oct 14 15:00:24 Is this the audio fix for panda? Oct 14 15:00:30 GrueMaster, righht Oct 14 15:00:37 nice. Oct 14 15:05:56 ogra_ac, rsalveti, GrueMaster, I have no blaze at hand but I can ask around me if you want. What is it that you want to test? Oct 14 15:07:24 vstehle: audio, but needs changes all around Oct 14 15:07:54 nothing right now buit if the packages for Bug #637947 are in maverick-proposed we need a test on blaze Oct 14 15:07:55 Launchpad bug 637947 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 3 other projects) "no sound devices on current ES2.0 boards (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 26)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/637947 Oct 14 15:08:08 lrg: Are you about? Oct 14 15:08:16 seems the sound should be ok at panda and blaze with these changes Oct 14 15:08:18 I need your sob on the patches I just submitted Oct 14 15:09:15 rsalveti, is everything in packages, or are there even patches around? If it boils down to apt-get/test I can grab someone at his desk :) Oct 14 15:11:27 vstehle: at the moment there are only patches, but you'll be able to test it soon :-) Oct 14 15:11:36 once the packages are in maverick-proposed we can ping you back Oct 14 15:11:43 vstehle, hopefully we have packages in maverick-proposed by tomorrow Oct 14 16:31:41 ogra: I need a favour Oct 14 16:42:37 lag, tell me Oct 14 16:42:51 ogra: I need a King Cobra picking up from Holland :D Oct 14 16:43:18 np. when ? Oct 14 16:43:32 Really? Oct 14 16:43:33 :) Oct 14 16:43:47 You jest Oct 14 16:44:03 i use my care to rarely anyway :) Oct 14 16:44:24 s/care/car Oct 14 16:45:42 I'm assuming you do know what a King Cobra is? Oct 14 16:45:59 a snake ? Oct 14 16:46:15 Yep Oct 14 16:47:51 safely boxed ? Oct 14 16:48:28 It would be, but I have no way of collecting it from you then Oct 14 16:48:32 :( Oct 14 16:48:41 I think you are even further away Oct 14 16:48:42 Erm, why? Oct 14 16:49:10 probably Oct 14 16:49:30 well, i cnt leave my girlfriend with a snake during UDS Oct 14 16:49:35 *cant Oct 14 16:49:52 i surely have no prob picking up a box and delivering it somewhere Oct 14 16:49:58 Oh, why not. She has one the rest of the time when you aren't traveling. :P Oct 14 16:50:28 * GrueMaster ducks for cover. Oct 14 16:50:46 * ogra_ac slaps GrueMaster behind his chair Oct 14 16:51:30 :) Oct 14 16:51:39 That's very kind of you, but I fear it is too much to ask Oct 14 16:59:03 lag: Why do you want a king cobra? Not enough challenges in the kernel team? Oct 14 19:57:49 ojn: does the tegra kernel on git.chromium.org depends on nvidia binary-only userspace stuff for sound/graphics? Oct 14 19:58:16 yes Oct 14 19:58:33 means, nvrm_daemon required? Oct 14 19:59:07 I'm asking because we have this beautiful ac100 laptop Oct 14 19:59:35 but we cannot get something usefull out of it with this nvidia stuff Oct 14 20:00:13 marvin24_DT: the binary pieces still have a bit of nvrm dependencies, yes. For graphics most of them have been removed but there's still some in there. Oct 14 20:00:56 ojn: thanks for the answer! Oct 14 20:01:41 ojn, sound would be more intresting Oct 14 20:02:11 ogra_ac: I haven't looked at sound yet, so no input there yet unfortunately. Oct 14 20:03:19 ah, tell me if you have ... on the ac100 i get sound devices but no mixers for example ... it also appreas like it defaults to a null codec unless nvrm_daemon runs **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Oct 15 02:59:57 2010