**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Oct 25 02:59:57 2010 Oct 25 11:27:30 any directions to howto change kernel versions for uboot in maverick on beagleboard? Oct 25 11:28:04 is there some script for it, or do i just manually do the mkimage for UImage? Oct 25 11:28:25 trying to install 3d drivers here... Oct 25 11:31:47 https://launchpad.net/~tiomap-dev/+archive/release to be exact Oct 25 13:18:09 hey guys how do I have a PPA that builds for armel? :/ Oct 25 13:19:34 kmargar, boo Oct 25 13:20:05 I can't get good, well lit photos of the smartbook debug board installation :( Oct 25 13:21:01 Neko: hi from UDS :) Oct 25 13:21:09 hi :D Oct 25 13:21:55 is that a bad connection or lots of changing irc client settings or what? Oct 25 13:22:08 is that a bad connection or lots of changing irc client settings or what? :D Oct 25 13:23:45 markos_: hi! Oct 25 13:25:00 hi there Oct 25 13:25:14 hrw: hi Oct 25 13:25:27 Neko: we'll fix the ppa for arm soon Oct 25 13:25:40 currently it's quite complicated to have one for arm Oct 25 13:25:42 lack of builders Oct 25 13:25:47 hrw: did you add bare metal builds to gcc? Oct 25 13:26:07 hrw: i mean by bare metal arm-elf target Oct 25 13:26:15 do you need more builders? Oct 25 13:26:21 I mean we can make some... Oct 25 13:27:03 right now I have some stuff that got pushed to a PPA but it was "rejected" because my UCoC wasn't "signed" in the system Oct 25 13:27:06 I didn't wait long enough Oct 25 13:27:12 so I can't upload them to the PPA Oct 25 13:27:21 they're just stuck in the system. what is the timeout for removing packages/ Oct 25 13:27:31 or should I just bump revision Oct 25 13:30:00 Neko: we'll fix the builders issue with panda, now that's out Oct 25 13:30:17 there's a session at uds to discuss how we're going to create the ppa for arm Oct 25 13:30:29 as we don't have a proper virtualization Oct 25 13:40:34 rsalveti: Hi was following the instructions given in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAPMaverickInstall Oct 25 13:41:18 rsalveti: On my pandaboard after booting i see on the console "Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel" Oct 25 13:43:36 suren: this is expected, by default the kernel traces are not output to the serial console... Do you have a screen plugged to your pandaboard? This is where you should see the insteresting things. Oct 25 13:48:00 suren: if you want to get console output you have to edit the boot.src file from your first disk partition, and add console=ttyO2,115200 Oct 25 13:48:15 but this is not needed unless you want to check what's going on the uart Oct 25 13:48:30 screen should be enough to show the installation progress Oct 25 14:15:04 http://video.ubuntu.com/live/ Oct 25 14:15:13 Linaro CTO talking now Oct 25 14:18:20 video playback is very choppy Oct 25 14:19:05 what was the device he just held up? AC100? Oct 25 14:22:02 Neko: yup, ac100 Oct 25 14:23:22 someone should hand him a smartbook Oct 25 14:27:46 I assume oliver & david are @ udc ? Oct 25 14:56:54 devilhorns: don't know about oliver, but david is around Oct 25 14:56:59 devilhorns: are you at uds? Oct 25 14:57:38 rsalveti, no Oct 25 14:57:52 rsalveti, it's ok, it can wait until they are done there Oct 25 14:58:08 rsalveti, just that I sent dave/oliver an email a week ago and still no response Oct 25 14:58:14 so I just assumed they were @ udc Oct 25 14:58:24 devilhorns: oh, ok Oct 25 14:58:35 davidm was out for vacation Oct 25 14:58:42 and oliver was probably busy with uds stuff Oct 25 14:58:43 ahhhh Oct 25 14:58:45 yea Oct 25 14:58:50 alright, thanks for the update :) Oct 25 15:04:16 np, will ping oliver when I see him Oct 25 15:04:49 rsalveti, thanks :) It's not an emergency tho Oct 25 15:07:35 Hello cooloney, remember the cross compile issue we discussed a while ago? I entered Bug #666267 today. Oct 25 15:07:36 Launchpad bug 666267 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu) "Cross compiled headers package breaks DKMS compilation (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/666267 Oct 25 15:29:04 Hi to everyone, new to this channel :-) Does anyone know if there are known bugs in Maverick regarding alsa audio driver and the Beagleboard revC2? Oct 25 15:30:03 Because I'm trying to use jackd and it hangs without errors after invocations. It worked well with lucid. Oct 25 15:32:24 vstehle: hey, vincent, great Oct 25 15:32:56 vstehle: i will try to discuss with some toolchain folks Oct 25 15:33:16 vstehle: it also looks like a kernel issue. Oct 25 15:40:33 cooloney: it looks more related with the kernel Oct 25 15:41:18 munbi: I think we need more than "hangs without errors", e.g., strace, ltrace, package versions, etc. Oct 25 15:50:18 rsalveti: yeah, agree! Oct 25 15:50:44 cooloney: seems we just need to make sure we also cross build the scripts Oct 25 15:51:10 maybe it's because it's building and using the scripts at the native environment Oct 25 15:51:18 then it's just packaged by default Oct 25 15:51:35 could be that we also need to cross build the scripts before packaging it Oct 25 15:52:35 rsalveti and vstehle, actually, we only ship those native built packages. i think Oct 25 15:52:51 rsalveti: cross compiling is just for testing Oct 25 15:53:20 What session are you guys attending next? Oct 25 15:53:23 cooloney: sure, but it's good to have it working, helps the development for sure :-) Oct 25 15:53:26 rsalveti: but for this issue, yeah, we need 2 version of this scripts binary. Oct 25 15:53:45 now that we have dkms packages all around Oct 25 15:54:01 crimsum: thanks. I will boot sdcard with Maverick and attach the requested info asap. There is already a related bug in launchpad (It's for a Beagle clone, but I experience the same behavior) Oct 25 15:54:12 rsalveti: 1. x86 version for further packaging things, 2, an arm crosscompiled version for ARM target usage Oct 25 15:54:28 Is it ok for you if I attach the info requested to that bug? Or is better to pastebin here? Oct 25 15:54:30 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jackd-defaults/+bug/643626 Oct 25 15:54:31 Launchpad bug 643626 in jackd-defaults (Ubuntu) "Jackd doesnt start on ARM Beagle board clone IGEPv2 (affects: 2) (heat: 18)" [Undecided,New] Oct 25 15:54:42 rsalveti: so in package, we will include the arm version instead of that x86 one Oct 25 15:54:47 yup Oct 25 15:55:30 rsalveti: oh yeah, dkms Oct 25 15:59:33 lag: im going to the ARM server session Oct 25 16:11:30 lag: i am in the cross compiler session right now Oct 25 17:15:47 crimsun: here the requested info (strace+ltrace+uname+pkgs versions) all in one file: http://pastebin.com/pxgbC103 Oct 25 17:16:39 I've also attached the sam infos to the related launchpad bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jackd-defaults/+bug/643626 Oct 25 17:16:41 Launchpad bug 643626 in jackd-defaults (Ubuntu) "Jackd doesnt start on ARM Beagle board clone IGEPv2 (affects: 2) (heat: 18)" [Undecided,New] Oct 25 17:17:34 Please tell me if I can help more. Btw, thanks for your time! Oct 25 18:25:22 anyone using a sheevaplug by any chance? Oct 25 18:27:36 Oct 25 18:37:39 rajesh: I have sheevaplug at home but it is offline for ~2-3 months now Oct 25 18:49:36 cpearson: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-dx-n-unity-compiz Oct 25 18:49:52 the idea is to move mutter out of the game Oct 25 18:50:24 rajesh: yup, I'm also using a sheevaplug for almost one year Oct 25 18:50:27 with debian Oct 25 18:51:11 jmcgee: hey, are you at uds already? Oct 25 18:52:27 rsalveti: yep, waiting in the room for "gles..." meeting. Oct 25 18:53:33 jmcgee: cool, will be there in a few minutes Oct 25 18:53:59 rsalveti: I'm all by my lonesome. :) Oct 25 18:55:16 hi, can you tell me if it should be doable to get 3d working on beagle with maverick? Oct 25 18:55:42 and any pointers to how? Oct 25 18:56:23 by googling i get the impression it's done, but requires binary drivers. Oct 25 18:57:21 hrw, rsalveti : great. i got mine recently. u-boot of 3.4.16, jaunty, and 2.6.22.18, amrelv5 Oct 25 18:57:50 trying to get ftdi_sio going with a apt-get upgrade before i start looking at putting debian on it. Oct 25 18:58:12 ikke-t: All user space 3D drivers for OMAP boards are closed source binary only. Oct 25 18:58:39 and 2d acceleration? Oct 25 18:58:53 it seems rather slow on fb drivers Oct 25 18:59:42 rajesh: install debian, forget about jaunty Oct 25 18:59:45 i was thinking if i could have mythtv and xbmc on it, as mythfrontend, but the both use somewhat 3d Oct 25 19:00:08 any experiences on subject? Oct 25 19:00:27 hrw: i just might. i want to see if there's an easier way than doing a full reinstall. Oct 25 19:00:42 do full reinstall Oct 25 19:00:48 it is easiest way Oct 25 19:00:51 i mean, it should be straightforward to upgrade to a new kernel or distribution, right? Oct 25 19:00:57 hrw|uds: hmm, interesting... Oct 25 19:01:03 you might be OK as long as GLES API is used. There is no public 2D api. Oct 25 19:01:16 rajesh: debian installer handles it nicely Oct 25 19:01:21 By 2D, I mean blitting. There is also OpenVG. Oct 25 19:01:34 rajesh: just need to get serial working and you can go Oct 25 19:01:49 rajesh: but check version of required/suggested uboot first Oct 25 19:02:04 hrw|uds: ok, that's good to know that the debian installer's good with the sheevaplug. Oct 25 19:02:33 ikke-t: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAP/Graphics Oct 25 19:03:39 rsalveti, thanks Oct 25 19:04:19 hrw|uds: it's kinda funny that i can into this room thinking people wouldn't be saying 'installing debian is easier' Oct 25 19:04:25 heh Oct 25 22:39:46 I upgraded the version of maverick on an xM board, and now it does't boot all the way. Oct 25 22:39:55 I get "init: udevtrigger main process (231) terminated with status 1". any ideas ? Oct 25 22:40:08 then it just hangs... Oct 25 23:30:35 rsavoye: hm, are you using currently maverick's kernel? Oct 25 23:30:54 yes, it should be Oct 25 23:31:04 it's about 2 months out of date Oct 25 23:31:29 I was curious if the xM worked yet with maverick :-) Oct 25 23:33:32 rsavoye: yeah, it should work, at least it was tested with the pre-installed image Oct 25 23:33:45 that's why it could happen that you got a bug while upgrading it Oct 25 23:34:44 so maybe I should grab another image and reflash the mmc card ? Oct 25 23:34:58 or will it segfault all the time like it used too ? Oct 25 23:35:06 rsavoye: depends, if it's easier for you :-) Oct 25 23:35:24 rsavoye: what is your xM rev? Oct 25 23:35:40 Beagle xM Rev A Oct 25 23:35:40 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAPMaverickInstall Oct 25 23:35:41 Die ID #6ac80000061000000156166b0a01002a Oct 25 23:36:04 don't know if the software is getting when you're using rev A2 or A3 already Oct 25 23:36:10 it had memory problems before, but at the time you though it might be kernel related Oct 25 23:36:31 hm, at least my rev A now works fine Oct 25 23:36:59 before even throttling it down to 800Mhz didn't hel[, but that was weeks ago Oct 25 23:37:39 course my A board could have the dreaded RAM bug Oct 25 23:46:36 yeah, but give the latest image a try and see if it works better **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Oct 26 03:00:09 2010