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Nov 13 03:01:03 <rcn-ee> no, it's the omap part, needs a voltage bump to the next level thru smartreflex
Nov 13 03:01:09 <cwillu_at_work> okay
Nov 13 03:01:39 <cwillu_at_work> tempted to get one just to reproduce this :p
Nov 13 13:02:42 <sveinse> I understand that a lot of you is running Ubuntu off a (micro) SD card, right?
Nov 13 13:04:00 <sveinse> Yesterday I purchased a new Class 4 Kingston 8GB micro SD. However, this card is something of the slowest I've ever seen running Ubuntu on
Nov 13 13:04:25 <sveinse> My old 2GB Trancend (which was bundled with a HTC phone) is *much* faster
Nov 13 13:04:58 <sveinse> Have any of you experienced differences and difficulties in respect of memory cards?
Nov 13 13:05:11 <sveinse> I.e. how can I find one with is fast?..
Nov 13 13:21:37 <ogra_ac> take class 10
Nov 13 13:24:38 <sveinse> But the class is related to read/write speeds.
Nov 13 13:25:10 <sveinse> I did a bonnie++ comparison between the two cards. Suprisingly the read/write rates were comparible
Nov 13 13:26:52 <sveinse> However the latency on IO were 4-5 times higher on the newest card.  Example. latency on random create read were 3174 us on the new, while 184 us on the old
Nov 13 13:27:13 <sveinse> So obviously there is some other parameter here which is not covered by the class concept
Nov 13 13:30:25 <ogra_ac> well, i get nearly USB results with class 10 cards here
Nov 13 13:31:12 <sveinse> Yeah, I'll see if I can get my hands on one. Which brand?
Nov 13 13:31:32 <ogra_ac> i had good results with panasonic gold cards
Nov 13 13:31:48 <sveinse> Panasonic. Interesting
Nov 13 13:33:19 <sveinse> I not surprised though. I've had previous experiences that the off-the-radio-shack-shelf cards can be cheap (i.e. poor quality)
Nov 13 17:13:00 <Neko__> hey guys, anyone have any official view or a wiki or something on how to version packages based on git repos?
Nov 13 17:16:29 <Neko__> mainly for kernel packages
Nov 13 17:17:12 <Neko__> git commit ids aren't debian standards compliant so I can't make the debian --revision thing the tag
Nov 13 18:24:25 <ScottK> Neko: Debian package versioning has to be monotonically increasing so using git ids is out.  I usually use the date, i.e. 2010113, instead.
Nov 13 18:24:51 <Neko> but some packages have stuff like +gitblahblah or ~gitsomething or ~something at least
Nov 13 18:25:02 <Neko> I never found anything which tells me what these really mean or what is recommended
Nov 13 18:25:11 <Neko> now I check I can't even find a package with that versioning but I know there are some :D
Nov 13 18:28:15 <ScottK> I'm familiar with it.
Nov 13 18:28:58 <ScottK> In Debian versionin "~" is somewhat magical in that it's less than anything else.
Nov 13 18:29:32 <ScottK> So 1.0~git20101113 is less than 1.0.  You'd use this to indicate some pre-1.0 snapshot.
Nov 13 18:30:06 <ScottK> If you're packaging something that's a bit beyond 1.0, you'd use 1.0+git20101113 since that's higher than 1.0.
Nov 13 18:30:15 <ScottK> Neko: Does that clarify it?
Nov 13 18:31:51 <Neko> oh-ho! I see :)
Nov 14 01:55:32 <Neko> kernel question: if we're using make-kpkg to build kernel image, headers, source etc. how do we make linux-libc-dev ?
Nov 14 01:59:07 <fagan> Neko: you should ask on monday everywhere is dead during the weekend
Nov 14 01:59:17 <Neko> I worked it out anyway :)
Nov 14 01:59:20 <Neko> magic hidden targets
Nov 14 01:59:35 <Neko> I should read man pages instead of just --help
Nov 14 02:00:55 <fagan> hehe
Nov 14 02:04:32 <Neko> oop no that target is obselete, and therefore.. we're screwed. anyway it was a bad idea to start. better get to work on a better kernel :D
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