**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 15 02:59:58 2010 Nov 15 08:21:57 morgen Nov 15 10:07:57 Hi, i m newbie to this channel. Have a query regarding how can i compile a arm binary on maverick ? Nov 15 10:08:44 i have installed arm-linux-gnueabi- package Nov 15 10:11:58 silverroots: how you would compile it for your machine? Nov 15 10:20:52 hrw, thats actually my Q is..? Can i compile using cross tool chain available in maverick? Nov 15 10:21:34 yes, you can Nov 15 10:22:12 is there any guide for that? Nov 15 10:23:22 normally i m compiling for x86 is using ./autogen && make && make install..but i assume there should be pre things to be done to make it arm binary Nov 15 10:25:58 hrw, thanks i guess i got a good link :) Nov 15 10:26:31 nope..its not..it has how to for just kernel..not any regular module Nov 15 10:29:56 configure --target arm-linux-gnueabi Nov 15 10:31:16 hrw, ok will try that now.. Nov 15 10:37:25 Are there anyone who happen to have Qt 4.7 embedded compiled against SGX for maverick? Nov 15 13:38:54 ogra_ac: bug 675542 Nov 15 13:38:55 Launchpad bug 675542 in x-loader-omap4 (Ubuntu) "Fails to apply patches (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/675542 Nov 15 13:39:30 hrw, why isnt that properly triaged ? Nov 15 13:39:54 please make sure to subscribe ubuntu-armel to bugs you want to be seen by us Nov 15 13:40:22 ogra_ac: I just filled it Nov 15 13:40:36 ah, yeah, 50sec ago, sorry Nov 15 13:41:24 ogra_ac: and I prefer to not subscribe teams to bugs on packages/projects which have living maintainer Nov 15 13:42:51 ~curse LP for breaking formatting Nov 15 13:42:53 hrw, works fine for me Nov 15 13:43:15 (on maverick in a natty chroot) Nov 15 13:44:37 fun Nov 15 13:45:22 and given that there was no change to the package since maverick release i would wonder why the patch cant apply Nov 15 13:45:37 let me check other arm Nov 15 13:48:59 crap. on efikasb it works Nov 15 13:49:04 ~curse pandaboard Nov 15 13:49:53 works on panda too here Nov 15 13:49:56 marked invalid Nov 15 13:50:04 thanks Nov 15 13:50:27 bad things happen in armel world ;( Nov 15 13:50:35 qt/kde ftfbs Nov 15 13:50:48 blame gcc Nov 15 13:50:56 I know Nov 15 13:51:03 but there are workarounds Nov 15 13:51:09 and nokia for ignoring thumb2 Nov 15 13:51:21 yeah Nov 15 13:51:37 The qt FTBFS is actually a qt one, not a gcc bug Nov 15 13:51:44 at least the thumb=it part of it Nov 15 13:51:50 oh ? Nov 15 13:51:56 i thought its gccs fault Nov 15 13:52:19 ogra_ac: gcc-4.5 dropped workaround Nov 15 13:52:22 ah Nov 15 13:52:28 sth like that Nov 15 13:52:34 well, changed defaults Nov 15 13:52:45 but if the defaults carried a workaround, i agree Nov 15 13:52:53 qt is armv6 and is UP Nov 15 13:53:12 no thumb support, no smp Nov 15 13:53:13 and still broken neon detection Nov 15 13:53:19 It was a flag to assume that lack of specifier meant thumb specifier, which is ugly and not the upstream default Nov 15 13:53:31 yeah Nov 15 13:55:56 I hope that one day "mem=1G" will work on my panda Nov 15 13:56:45 fix the kernel ;) Nov 15 13:57:00 ;D Nov 15 13:57:01 Is there a guide where I can use Ubuntu, add some packages, and be able to cross compile to Arm? My current way is to download the CodeSourcery compiler .tar.gz file. Nov 15 13:57:17 simosx: wanna cross build ? http://42.pl/u/2u8U Nov 15 13:57:48 next thing to blog about... "how to use xdeb in cross builds" Nov 15 13:59:45 ogra_ac: implicit-it=thumb wasn't just removed from defaults, it doesn't work at all currently (see 675240). Not sure if that was on purpose or not. Nov 15 14:00:06 hrw: thanks :-). It's much easier this way. I need to upgrade to 10.10 to get the ARM GCC. I promise to blog about the proper way. Nov 15 14:00:21 ScottK, ouch Nov 15 14:01:02 simosx: I have to blog about it too. will replace current link in /topic then Nov 15 14:01:28 shit... I forgot that natty+panda == kernel panic on boot Nov 15 14:01:39 ogra_ac: Yes. And give Thiago's comment in 673085, I suspect we are just about stuck between a rock and a hard place. Nov 15 14:01:56 bug 673085 Nov 15 14:01:57 Launchpad bug 673085 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Qt/KDE fails to build on ARM without implicit-it=thumb (affects: 2) (dups: 2) (heat: 38)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/673085 Nov 15 14:02:52 ScottK, well, we can always carry a distro patch as workaround for now Nov 15 14:03:33 ogra_ac: If we have one that works, yes, but I'd want to understand why upstream wouldn't accept it (I suspect it won't just be cosmetic reasons). Nov 15 14:03:47 no, unlikely Nov 15 14:04:27 lool, hrw, is the thumb2/multicore issue reported upstream? I didn't spot it in a quick search. Nov 15 14:05:28 suihkulokki: no idea, did not tracked Nov 15 14:05:55 suihkulokki: but I assume that it is not present in qt bugtracker Nov 15 14:06:07 or does nokia care at all Nov 15 14:06:32 * ogra_ac guesses nokia will also have to support A9 at some point ;) Nov 15 14:06:40 Its hard to care about issues people dont report :) Nov 15 14:07:18 hrw: Considering Thiago Maciera is commenting in 673085, I think not caring isn't it. Nov 15 14:11:53 shit. booted panda to 460+256MB setup, refetched xloader source and still fail Nov 15 14:13:14 now test in tmpfs Nov 15 14:13:16 i dont think you have a ram issue there, loolks more liek filesystem corruption to me if a patch doesnt apply Nov 15 14:13:19 same Nov 15 14:13:36 fresh tmpfs fails Nov 15 14:14:24 md5sums of archive are correct Nov 15 14:18:14 lool, do you plan to SRU your debootstrap workaround into maverick ? (would that make sense) Nov 15 14:18:27 (for the dpkg segfault) Nov 15 14:28:26 suihkulokki: Dunno Nov 15 14:28:29 suihkulokki: I guess not Nov 15 14:28:43 ogra_ac: Is it a problem under maverick? Nov 15 14:29:01 lool, if you build natty, yes Nov 15 14:29:27 its nattys dpkg that has the issue so building a natty chroot in maverick causes the same issue Nov 15 14:29:59 ogra_ac: I wouldn't mind; but I'd rather get the fix merged in Debian first; you're welcome to SRU it too; I don't debootstrap natty from maverick myself these days, albeit I could have to in the future Nov 15 14:30:03 but effectively its just a workaround Nov 15 14:30:31 Ideally, we'd fix dpkg in natty and this would fix debootstrap from maverick as well Nov 15 14:30:35 which i expect to be dropped as soon as dpkg is fixed Nov 15 14:30:51 well, i think thats still the plan Nov 15 14:31:24 so SRUing back and forth for the workaround probably doesnt make sense Nov 15 14:40:08 ogra_ac: Would you have time to reduce the test case in dpkg? Nov 15 14:40:27 I'm not sure James is looking at it and I certainly don't have the time to look into it this week Nov 15 14:43:05 lool, i think james is supposed to do that Nov 15 14:43:33 at leqast thats how i understood colin Nov 15 16:43:20 Quick question I want to get a toshiba ac100 and I know that most stuff works out of the box in 10.10, is there anything to stop me getting one and sticking ubuntu on it? Nov 15 16:43:37 * fagan is looking to get one Nov 15 16:44:05 Last I heard sound and video werent working all that well Nov 15 16:54:07 ogra_ac: I'm working on testing the IT patch from michaelh1 for qt4-x11. My plan is to build a fixed Qt locally and then if I can build a package that currently FTBFS due to the lack of implicit-it=thumb, then I'll declare victory and upload it. Nov 15 16:54:35 ScottK, awesome Nov 15 16:55:06 It's a LOT easier to work on armel stuff once one has some hardware ... Nov 15 16:55:16 heh, yeah Nov 15 21:43:09 ScottK: what HW you are using for builds? Nov 15 21:48:42 Hey all. Nov 15 21:54:19 anyone even vaguely awake? Nov 15 22:01:45 a bit Nov 15 22:06:15 hrw: I've got three Efika MX smarttops (running Karmic) sharing the build using icecc. Nov 15 22:06:56 nice Nov 15 22:09:12 The trickiest part was arranging to have icecc also distribute the compiler to use so they all build their bits using the same GCC version. Nov 15 22:09:29 * ScottK didn't figure out that part - was a team effort. Nov 15 22:47:38 Anyone awake? I have a question about platform devices... Nov 15 22:47:56 specifically, initializing the data that goes into the pdev->dev.platform_device Nov 15 22:48:14 er dev.platform_data Nov 15 22:57:28 'ogra, you online? Nov 15 23:46:40 I've been told that the pandaboard supports 1080p playback, but that xbmc and mythtv do not work with that yet, but "ubuntu does".. could anyone clarify the usefulness of a pandaboard with ubuntu as a media front end? Nov 15 23:47:36 Sp0tter: you may have to wait for a bit for someone to answer Nov 15 23:47:47 alrighty Nov 15 23:47:48 Sp0tter: the other person to as is robclark Nov 15 23:48:15 prpplague: do you know where to purchase a case for the pandaboard? Nov 15 23:48:38 or is it just make your own only Nov 15 23:48:40 Sp0tter: no case is available currently Nov 15 23:48:44 Sp0tter: pretty much Nov 15 23:48:54 k Nov 15 23:49:03 Sp0tter: there is plans for an accessory board plus case called the Bamboo Nov 15 23:49:20 Sp0tter: http://www.elinux.org/Panda_Bamboo Nov 15 23:49:25 yea it seems to be evolving quickly Nov 15 23:49:35 thats the only reason i'm hesitant to order one Nov 15 23:49:39 1 month wait too **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Nov 16 02:59:58 2010