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Nov 25 06:47:42 <rsanchez> hello
Nov 25 06:48:37 <rsanchez> I'm using the pre-built rootfs image found in the build rootfs from scratch page
Nov 25 06:49:32 <rsanchez> I previously used a debian chroot, and now I want to try an ubuntu chroot, but I'm having problems mounting it
Nov 25 06:49:58 <rsanchez> was wondering if someone here could help...
Nov 25 06:51:06 <rsanchez> basically, I'm trying: mount -o loop ubuntu-arm.img /opt
Nov 25 06:51:33 <rsanchez> it's what I did with the debian image, but it's giving me an invalid parameter error
Nov 25 06:54:11 <rsanchez> should I really build it from scratch instead of using the prebuilt image?
Nov 25 06:54:23 <Orbital_sFear> Hey Guess, I'm reading up on Beagleboards xM.  Looks like theres a lot of material for throwing ubuntu on the board, has anyone tried it in here?  thoughts and feelings?
Nov 25 06:54:43 <Orbital_sFear> sigh, hey guys I mean... sorry my fingers type what they want sometimes
Nov 25 06:55:55 <Orbital_sFear> no one in here has put ubuntu on a beagle xM?
Nov 25 06:57:11 <rsanchez> nope, actually I'm trying to put it on a palm pre
Nov 25 06:57:19 <Orbital_sFear> nice!
Nov 25 06:57:29 <Orbital_sFear> are those omap based?
Nov 25 06:57:34 <rsanchez> yeah
Nov 25 06:57:38 <Orbital_sFear> cool
Nov 25 06:57:54 <Orbital_sFear> I was just reading up on the new OMAP4440, dual core 1GHz+
Nov 25 06:57:56 <rsanchez> I could get debian working, trying ubuntu now
Nov 25 06:58:07 <Orbital_sFear> MID or netbook remix?
Nov 25 06:58:33 <rsanchez> netbook remix I think?
Nov 25 06:58:42 <rsanchez> at least I want netbook remix
Nov 25 06:58:48 <Orbital_sFear> prob is, most of teh reading I've seen is using that
Nov 25 06:59:12 <Orbital_sFear> are you using uboot?
Nov 25 06:59:21 <rsanchez> no
Nov 25 06:59:45 <Orbital_sFear> which one are you using to get the linux kernel up?
Nov 25 07:00:01 <rsanchez> that must be what I'm missing
Nov 25 07:00:20 <Orbital_sFear> well not really, there are others, uboot is the only one I know of though
Nov 25 07:00:24 <rsanchez> getting the linux kernel up
Nov 25 07:00:27 <Orbital_sFear> well, for embedded anyway
Nov 25 07:00:42 <rsanchez> I don't have uboot on my system
Nov 25 07:01:06 <Orbital_sFear> not sure if this'll help
Nov 25 07:01:07 <Orbital_sFear> http://www.snowbotic.com/archives/33
Nov 25 07:01:20 <Orbital_sFear> its for the beagle board but perhaps the logic will transfer
Nov 25 07:01:43 <Orbital_sFear> also
Nov 25 07:01:44 <Orbital_sFear> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAPMaverickInstall
Nov 25 07:01:47 <Orbital_sFear> again for the beagle
Nov 25 07:02:08 <Orbital_sFear> the only thing that I can think that might kill ya is if the kernel is missing an important module
Nov 25 07:02:21 <Orbital_sFear> typicaly
Nov 25 07:02:40 <Orbital_sFear> the nand flash has a loader which gets the omap online
Nov 25 07:02:43 <Orbital_sFear> configures the mmu and stuff
Nov 25 07:02:45 <rsanchez> well I don't want to install it completely
Nov 25 07:03:02 <Orbital_sFear> then uboot wakes, gets memory ready, gets th mmu ready for linux
Nov 25 07:03:03 <rsanchez> I still want to use the phone :)
Nov 25 07:03:10 <Orbital_sFear> then it gives it to linux and away you go
Nov 25 07:03:12 <Orbital_sFear> lol ya =)
Nov 25 07:03:20 <rsanchez> I just want to chroot it
Nov 25 07:03:22 <Orbital_sFear> I don't know anything about hacking on pre's
Nov 25 07:03:25 <Orbital_sFear> ah
Nov 25 07:03:27 <Orbital_sFear> oooo
Nov 25 07:03:29 <Orbital_sFear> well heck
Nov 25 07:03:31 <Orbital_sFear> in that case
Nov 25 07:03:46 <Orbital_sFear> debian would prob be better
Nov 25 07:03:53 <rsanchez> they have a guide for debian
Nov 25 07:04:00 <Orbital_sFear> I'd stick with that
Nov 25 07:04:03 <rsanchez> nothing on ubuntu though
Nov 25 07:04:03 <Orbital_sFear> I did that on my G1
Nov 25 07:04:11 <Orbital_sFear> ubuntu wont help you much
Nov 25 07:04:22 <rsanchez> yeah but I just want to try it
Nov 25 07:04:29 <Orbital_sFear> to my knowledge, you can't give the display over to the chroot
Nov 25 07:04:30 <rsanchez> just to see what it's like
Nov 25 07:04:43 <rsanchez> on ubuntu?
Nov 25 07:04:47 <Orbital_sFear> right
Nov 25 07:04:54 <Orbital_sFear> the pre OS owns the display
Nov 25 07:05:01 <Orbital_sFear> I don't know of any way for them to play nicely there
Nov 25 07:05:02 <rsanchez> but on debian you can
Nov 25 07:05:02 <Orbital_sFear> but
Nov 25 07:05:08 <Orbital_sFear> really?
Nov 25 07:05:13 <Orbital_sFear> get x running and have it take over?
Nov 25 07:05:35 <rsanchez> you mean running a window manager and other graphical applications?
Nov 25 07:05:40 <Orbital_sFear> right
Nov 25 07:05:46 <Orbital_sFear> I know you can ssh in, and xforward
Nov 25 07:06:00 <Orbital_sFear> but I wasn't aware that you could run something like gnome or kde with that kinda setup
Nov 25 07:06:03 <rsanchez> yeah, I could run chromium, openoffice, icewm, etc
Nov 25 07:06:11 <Orbital_sFear> dude thats bad ass
Nov 25 07:06:21 <Orbital_sFear> does the pre use X for its rendering?
Nov 25 07:06:39 <rsanchez> well you have to install an x server
Nov 25 07:06:53 <rsanchez> but the homebrew folks make that easy
Nov 25 07:07:00 <Orbital_sFear> thats sweet
Nov 25 07:07:23 <Orbital_sFear> so the pre must be xorg based for its render engine, which lets you export the display over to it and run some apps
Nov 25 07:07:27 <Orbital_sFear> very sexy
Nov 25 07:07:42 <rsanchez> if you want to see it, search openoffice on pre on youtube
Nov 25 07:07:50 <Orbital_sFear> I will
Nov 25 07:07:53 <Orbital_sFear> well
Nov 25 07:07:55 <rsanchez> it runs slow as hell, but still runs
Nov 25 07:07:57 <Orbital_sFear> for getting ubuntu going
Nov 25 07:08:06 <Orbital_sFear> check out those links I sent you
Nov 25 07:08:07 <rsanchez> chromium is much nicer
Nov 25 07:08:25 <Orbital_sFear> if you can dump ubuntu to a single img file and chroot to it like debian
Nov 25 07:08:26 <rsanchez> I'll do that, thanks
Nov 25 07:08:28 <Orbital_sFear> it should work the same
Nov 25 07:09:06 <Orbital_sFear> ensure your env variables are setup correctly so X knows where to go
Nov 25 07:09:14 <Orbital_sFear> in the chroot
Nov 25 07:09:19 <rsanchez> I was basically just using the prebuilt image file found towards the bottom of the build a rootfs from scratch page
Nov 25 07:09:44 <Orbital_sFear> ah, well that should work
Nov 25 07:09:54 <Orbital_sFear> that part is pretty straight forward
Nov 25 07:10:09 <rsanchez> what I'm doing is trying to use the same commands I used to chroot debian
Nov 25 07:10:21 <Orbital_sFear> and its failing on you?
Nov 25 07:10:52 <rsanchez> there's a short guide here: www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Debian
Nov 25 07:11:38 <rsanchez> at the first step in activating debian rootfs, you do mount -o loop img /media/cf
Nov 25 07:11:57 <rsanchez> replace img with path to ubuntu arm image
Nov 25 07:12:27 <rsanchez> but mount is failing telling me it has incorrect parameters
Nov 25 07:12:43 <Orbital_sFear> hummm
Nov 25 07:12:53 <Orbital_sFear> what fs is the img?
Nov 25 07:13:02 <Orbital_sFear> perhaps the per doesn't have the fs module built in
Nov 25 07:13:03 <Orbital_sFear> like
Nov 25 07:13:14 <Orbital_sFear> if the img is ext4 and the pre only supports ext2/3
Nov 25 07:13:34 <rsanchez> hmm, I actually don't know
Nov 25 07:13:44 <Orbital_sFear> I forget the command off the top of my head
Nov 25 07:13:56 <Orbital_sFear> but google around for getting mount to tell you what fs it supports
Nov 25 07:14:00 <Orbital_sFear> then on your machine
Nov 25 07:14:01 <Orbital_sFear> run
Nov 25 07:14:04 <Orbital_sFear> file xxx.img
Nov 25 07:14:11 <Orbital_sFear> and it shoudl tell you what its built in
Nov 25 07:16:50 <Orbital_sFear> also, try running the mount command your machine directly, make sure it works there first
Nov 25 07:17:44 <rsanchez> ok,  hold on...
Nov 25 07:19:11 <rsanchez> the ubuntu image is ext4
Nov 25 07:19:29 <rsanchez> the pre supports 2/3, don't know about 4
Nov 25 07:20:12 <Orbital_sFear> suck
Nov 25 07:20:15 <Orbital_sFear> ummm
Nov 25 07:20:17 <Orbital_sFear> well
Nov 25 07:20:31 <Orbital_sFear> the easiest thing would be to get a ext3 build of ubuntu
Nov 25 07:20:44 <Orbital_sFear> you can install a ext4 kernel module without building a new kernel
Nov 25 07:20:49 <Orbital_sFear> but that would take more time to get working
Nov 25 07:21:05 <rsanchez> I would do that in the build a rootfs page right?
Nov 25 07:21:08 <Orbital_sFear> check you can simple convert the ext4 img to ext3
Nov 25 07:21:13 <Orbital_sFear> I think so yes
Nov 25 07:21:45 <rsanchez> how can I convert the img?
Nov 25 07:21:56 <Orbital_sFear> don't even know if its possible
Nov 25 07:22:22 <rsanchez> ok
Nov 25 07:23:13 <rsanchez> in the page it where it says create a filesystem on the image, it uses mkfs.ext4, could I just do mkfs.ext3?
Nov 25 07:23:24 <Orbital_sFear> right
Nov 25 07:24:16 <rsanchez> alright, everything else looks pretty straigtforward
Nov 25 07:24:37 <rsanchez> I'll be  back in a bit let you know if I make progress
Nov 25 07:24:43 <Orbital_sFear> cool man
Nov 25 07:25:31 <rsanchez> I really just want to try ubuntu to see how the unity desktop would work
Nov 25 07:27:30 <Orbital_sFear> gf just called, =) gl man, later
Nov 25 08:42:48 <LetoThe2nd> g'mornin
Nov 25 08:46:02 <ndec> ogra_ac_: hi. did you see my question yesterday (about cpuburn not being for armel in ubuntu/universe, even though it's built fine in debian/sid)? well, even if you replied I lost my IRC, so I didn't see your answer...
Nov 25 08:59:37 <hrw> ndec: I did not saw answer
Nov 25 09:00:18 <ndec> hrw: thx... do you have any idea what the problem can be? i installed the package from debian, and it worked fine on panda. it's just not build on LP
Nov 25 09:03:52 <hrw> no idea, sorry
Nov 25 09:04:54 <hrw> rebuilding package on panda
Nov 25 09:05:45 <hrw> built fine
Nov 25 09:06:25 <hrw> -rwxr-xr-x root/root       648 2010-11-25 09:57 ./usr/bin/burnCortexA8
Nov 25 09:06:25 <hrw> -rwxr-xr-x root/root       632 2010-11-25 09:57 ./usr/bin/burnCortexA9
Nov 25 09:06:28 <hrw> small stuff
Nov 25 09:07:43 <hrw> ndec: open a bug
Nov 25 09:08:14 <ndec> hrw: sure
Nov 25 09:11:09 <ndec> hrw: ogra: I entered LP#681267
Nov 25 09:12:27 <hrw> bug 681267
Nov 25 09:12:29 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 681267 in cpuburn (Ubuntu) "Packages for armel are missing (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/681267
Nov 25 09:14:25 <LetoThe2nd> hm, I already was here yesterday evening - looking for a way/occasion to get deeper into ubuntu/arm. i can offer good c knowledge and basic kernel code understanding, so what would be a point to start? or even, what would be a task that needs to be done and can be used for a learner?
Nov 25 09:14:26 <hrw> confirmed
Nov 25 09:15:20 <hrw> LetoThe2nd: grab supported arm board, run ubuntu on it. then check does everything works. if something does not then check on x86(-64) and submit proper bugs
Nov 25 09:15:24 <hrw> then fix them
Nov 25 09:16:43 <LetoThe2nd> hrw: should that be translated to: go get a pandaboard and try to find bugs on it?
Nov 25 09:19:14 <hrw> beagleboard xm is easier to get
Nov 25 09:20:06 <hrw> LetoThe2nd: using systems allows to find thigns which needs work. I fixed byobu on smp arm recently to show proper cpu frequency.
Nov 25 09:20:33 <hrw> fix was very simple but without it byobu shown "2x2.0GHz" insted of "2x1.0GHz"
Nov 25 09:21:06 <hrw> if I would not use byobu on pandaboard bug maybe will be ignored or not even found
Nov 25 09:22:01 <LetoThe2nd> i see. :-) but why is the bb xm easier to get than the pb?
Nov 25 09:24:30 <hrw> bbxm is available right now
Nov 25 09:24:35 <hrw> pb has order queue
Nov 25 09:26:53 <LetoThe2nd> i see. ubuntu ist armv7-only, right? I already have an openrd lying around somewhere nearby...
Nov 25 09:31:32 <LetoThe2nd> arm what arch is the userland based on?
Nov 25 09:31:47 <LetoThe2nd> s/arm/or/
Nov 25 09:58:47 <zumbi_> LetoThe2nd: for openrd, kirkwood based cannot run ubuntu-arm
Nov 25 09:59:12 <LetoThe2nd> zumbi_: why?
Nov 25 09:59:40 <zumbi_> LetoThe2nd: because ubuntu-arm defaults to armv7 and kirkwood is armv5
Nov 25 10:00:19 <zumbi_> LetoThe2nd: you could use debian-arm instead or something else
Nov 25 10:00:39 <LetoThe2nd> zumbi_: its running debian at the moment :/
Nov 25 10:01:06 <zumbi_> LetoThe2nd: no ptxdist?
Nov 25 10:01:28 <LetoThe2nd> zumbi_: no - i never felt like doing a bsp for it.
Nov 25 10:03:08 <LetoThe2nd> though i wonder, because the openrd came with 9.04 preinstalled. so how did they do that? rebuild from scratch, or is it that only the ubuntu provided kernels want armv7 and the userland might run on v5?
Nov 25 10:03:44 <hrw> LetoThe2nd: 9.04 was armv5
Nov 25 10:03:55 <LetoThe2nd> ah.
Nov 25 10:03:57 <hrw> 9.10 was armv6, 10.04+ are armv7
Nov 25 10:29:24 <LetoThe2nd> hm... guess i need some new hardware then. the only armv7 i've git has 64k RAM 192k Flash ;-)
Nov 25 10:34:36 <hrw> LetoThe2nd: Cortex-M0 based?
Nov 25 10:36:27 <LetoThe2nd> M3
Nov 25 11:08:30 <apw> ogra, lool, there was some talk at UDS about whether we would continue to use versatile for QEMU ... did we bottom out on that
Nov 25 11:11:19 <ogra_ac_> apw, depends on rsalveti-afk's research for a new qemu solution
Nov 25 11:11:39 <ogra_ac_> we can only drop versatile if we have another solution
Nov 25 11:12:04 <apw> any idea when that is planned to report?  i have a work item about it marked for natty-alpha-1 and suspect we won't know by then
Nov 25 11:12:19 <ogra_ac_> definitiely not A1
Nov 25 11:13:42 <apw> ogra_ac_, ta
Nov 25 11:13:43 <ogra_ac_> apw, just add a dependency
Nov 25 11:14:00 <ogra_ac_> (you can make specs depend on other specs)
Nov 25 11:14:06 <ogra_ac_> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-arm-n-more-stable-vm-solution-for-arm
Nov 25 11:15:57 <ogra_ac_> (at the very bottom of your spec there is a "add dependency" button, just link to the other spec with that)
Nov 25 11:17:09 <ogra_ac_> dont expect much implementation work pre-A1 from our team, most of us have to burn vacation days before end of the year
Nov 25 11:19:53 <hrw> apw: also check for linaro qemu specs
Nov 25 11:20:18 <lool> apw: I don't remember us reaching a particular decision  :-/  maybe pm215 remembers better
Nov 25 11:20:29 <apw> hrw, are we expecting anything from linaro in that space?  i don't remember us having dep there
Nov 25 11:21:01 <hrw> apw: I do not remember neither what is planned for qemu in linaro
Nov 25 11:21:56 <lool> apw: I've pinged pm215 who's leading the qemu work within Linaro; he probably recalls better whether we decided for OMAP3 in Ubuntu or keeping versatile
Nov 25 11:23:04 <lool> Hmm unfortunately he is on leave starting today until Monday
Nov 25 11:23:10 <lool> I'll shoot him an email
Nov 25 11:37:11 <ogra_ac_> lool, apw, conclusion was to check the suitability of the existing qemu-omap from linaro and if that fits and is packageable for the archive, switch over to it
Nov 25 11:37:29 <ogra_ac_> (see the workitems on the spec)
Nov 25 11:41:07 <apw> ogra_ac_, lool, ack, have made my spec dep on that one and moved my items out to natty-alpha-2 to match when we might have a decision from you guys
Nov 25 11:43:45 <ogra_ac_> thanks
Nov 25 12:05:57 <lool> ogra: Which spec is that with the qemu-omap decision?
Nov 25 12:18:35 <zyga> lool, how can I rename a python script foo.py to foo when building a debian package? There is a policy that scripts should not use the language suffix in debian but for other OSes and source in general I'd like to keep that around. Could you help me with this?
Nov 25 12:21:08 <zyga> lool, feel free to respond in #linaro
Nov 25 15:20:45 <rsanchez> hello
Nov 25 15:21:17 <rsanchez> I'm trying to setup the network on my arm rootfs, but can't get it to setup
Nov 25 15:21:46 <rsanchez> following instructions here under Configuring ARM Image for Project Builds: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/ARM/BuildArmPackages
Nov 25 15:22:30 <rsanchez> dhclient ends telling me "No working leases in persistent database"
Nov 25 15:27:02 <rsanchez> how can I get networking set up?
Nov 25 16:44:10 <surferdude> Hi all, trying to get ubuntu 10.10 running on my Beagleboard xM and I'm running into a problem with starting a gui
Nov 25 16:44:45 <ogra_ac> it shoud start by default
Nov 25 16:44:53 <ogra_ac> *should
Nov 25 16:45:17 <surferdude> The only image I could find is a base image without the gui preinstalled
Nov 25 16:45:21 <ogra_ac> ??
Nov 25 16:45:38 <ogra_ac> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAPMaverickInstall
Nov 25 16:45:51 <topfs2> hehe, then it sounds like expected behaviour is no gui :)
Nov 25 16:46:00 <surferdude> ah, thanks
Nov 25 16:46:03 <topfs2> should be apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
Nov 25 16:46:09 <topfs2> or something lighter than that perhaps
Nov 25 16:46:13 <surferdude> I was using the guide at http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#Beagle_xM
Nov 25 16:46:54 <ogra_ac> ah
Nov 25 16:47:01 <topfs2> those guides are so complicated :)
Nov 25 16:47:02 <ogra_ac> thats a community maintained image
Nov 25 16:47:21 <ogra_ac> the one linked on the ubuntu wiki is the official maverick release
Nov 25 16:51:26 <apw> lool, sounds like peter is saying nothing happening this cycle on the QEMU model change
Nov 25 16:53:42 <lool> apw: Well, unless we find it acceptable to have qemu-omap in Ubuntu
Nov 25 16:53:50 <lool> apw: up to ogra and team I guess
Nov 25 16:54:05 <lool> apw: we have it in a PPA for Linaro
Nov 25 16:54:45 <ogra_ac> right, and our decision is up to rsalveti-afk's research
Nov 25 16:55:33 <ogra_ac> which also needs to include research about the omap3 kernel we'll be using
Nov 25 16:55:50 <ogra_ac> so another linaro omap3 check is needed here
Nov 25 16:56:26 <ogra_ac> (but since i assume linaro uses their own kernel for it i dont expect issues)
Nov 25 17:26:01 <ogra_ac> GrueMaster, fix released for Bug 663642 ? has the package been moved from -proposed to -updates ?
Nov 25 17:26:02 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 663642 in linux-linaro (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 3 other projects) "DVI doesn't work at BeagleBoard xM rev A3 (affects: 1) (heat: 107)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/663642
Nov 25 17:26:18 <ogra_ac> (the bug doesnt indicate any action from the SRU team)
Nov 25 17:26:37 <GrueMaster> According to the package info, it was pushed to maverick updates.
Nov 25 17:27:00 <GrueMaster> (and the sub-projects also indicate that)
Nov 25 17:27:15 <ogra_ac> hmm
Nov 25 17:27:27 <ogra_ac> ---------------
Nov 25 17:27:27 <ogra_ac> linux (2.6.35-23.40) maverick-proposed; urgency=low
Nov 25 17:27:49 <ogra_ac> is what i see for the package, usually a member of the SRU team comments that it was copied over
Nov 25 17:28:41 * ogra_ac is just scared that we have to redo it again if there is a bit of the process missing
Nov 25 17:29:38 <GrueMaster> I also had av500 on #beagle check.
Nov 25 17:29:52 <ogra_ac> but not comment :/
Nov 25 17:31:05 <ogra_ac> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/linux/2.6.35-23.40
Nov 25 17:31:06 <ogra_ac> aha
Nov 25 17:31:14 <ogra_ac> moved to -updates yesterday
Nov 25 17:31:28 <ogra_ac> err, two days ago
Nov 25 17:31:30 <ogra_ac> ok
Nov 25 17:33:09 <GrueMaster> yea.  And the maverick sub-project was already marked fix-released.  I was just making the bug report complete so it doesn't come up in queries again.
Nov 25 17:33:41 <ogra_ac> yeah
Nov 25 17:33:49 <ogra_ac> sorry, i was just overcautious
Nov 25 17:34:06 <ogra_ac> since that bug already fired back once
Nov 25 17:34:08 <GrueMaster> Believe me, so was I before I made the change.
Nov 25 17:34:34 <ogra_ac> heh
Nov 25 17:35:14 <GrueMaster> I was told on our pdx chat channel yesterday that they were preparing to fire out a security update.  My hackles went up into overdrive.
Nov 25 17:35:24 <ogra_ac> geez
Nov 25 17:36:02 <ogra_ac> next UDS please make up a spec to solve these issues (and subscribe the whole kernel team :P )
Nov 25 17:36:05 <GrueMaster> Remember how many times I tested the network fix for babbage in Lucid?
Nov 25 17:36:11 <ogra_ac> yep
Nov 25 17:36:17 <ogra_ac> we really need to spec it
Nov 25 17:36:24 <ogra_ac> to sort the process
Nov 25 17:36:46 <ogra_ac> somehow that fell off the shelf this UDS
Nov 25 17:37:02 <GrueMaster> I found out part of the problem.  When bugs are filed for some kernel updates that affect armel, no armel tag gets added, and our team is not subscribed.
Nov 25 17:37:36 <GrueMaster> They just tag it verification-needed and assume we know.
Nov 25 17:37:45 <ogra_ac> that would surely be a good first move
Nov 25 17:38:01 <ogra_ac> buut it will change if we switch to the other kernel
Nov 25 17:38:19 <ogra_ac> since both of our kernels will live in separate packages then
Nov 25 17:38:26 <ogra_ac> we can define apport hooks for us
Nov 25 17:40:02 <GrueMaster> The bugs I'm referring to are ABI updates from marvell and freescale.
Nov 25 17:40:30 <ogra_ac> right, we didnt do apport hooks at all in the past
Nov 25 17:40:30 <GrueMaster> They don't get filed with apport.
Nov 25 17:41:28 <ogra_ac> well, lets just make up a policy for non apport bugs so the kernel team has something to work along
Nov 25 17:42:20 <GrueMaster> We already have one.  Couldn't find the wiki yesterday, but we had this discussion with certain linaro people last cycle.
Nov 25 17:42:47 <GrueMaster> I'll search again using google.
Nov 25 17:43:02 <ogra_ac> yeah, we had one in the past
Nov 25 17:43:12 <ogra_ac> i think it lives in the arm namespace
Nov 25 17:48:06 <surferdude> :/
Nov 25 17:49:02 <surferdude> put the official ubuntu image on my sdcard, not getting any video at all
Nov 25 17:49:49 <ogra_ac> what revision is your XM ?
Nov 25 17:50:02 <surferdude> -00
Nov 25 17:50:17 <surferdude> i think that's an A2
Nov 25 17:50:30 <ogra_ac> hmm, A2 should work
Nov 25 17:50:40 <ogra_ac> A3 has an extra section on the wiki
Nov 25 17:50:43 <surferdude> ...
Nov 25 17:50:46 <ogra_ac> for a video issue
Nov 25 17:51:15 <surferdude> now all of a sudden the activity lights on the sdcard are blinking
Nov 25 17:51:54 <ogra_ac> but you dont see a splash screen on the monitor ?
Nov 25 17:52:01 <surferdude> nope, nothing
Nov 25 17:52:57 <surferdude> using the image at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/releases/10.10/release/ubuntu-netbook-10.10-preinstalled-netbook-armel+omap.img.gz
Nov 25 17:53:29 <ogra_ac> yeah
Nov 25 17:54:09 <ogra_ac> that should work, first boot gets you into text mode and resizes the image to the full size of the SD, then it reboots into the graphical setup
Nov 25 17:55:31 <surferdude> I hope my board isn't dead
Nov 25 18:04:45 <GrueMaster> ogra_ac: I amnot finding anything other than a meeting log from way back reference that plars updated it.
Nov 25 18:04:59 <ogra_ac> hmm
Nov 25 18:05:00 <GrueMaster> I wonder if it was deleted?
Nov 25 18:05:05 <ogra_ac> probably plars remembers
Nov 25 18:05:18 <ogra_ac> though thanksgiving is probably not the day to ask
Nov 25 18:05:26 <ogra_ac> why are you working btw ?
Nov 25 18:19:40 <fredim> The ubuntu-arm starts only in the initramfs, what should be?
Nov 25 18:19:47 <fredim> in beagleboard
Nov 25 18:20:44 <ogra_ac> can you rephrase that ?
Nov 25 18:22:46 * ogra_ac cant make any sense out of that sentence
Nov 25 18:27:32 <fredim> I'm following: https: / / wiki.ubuntu.com / ARM / BeagleNetbookInstall
Nov 25 18:27:46 <fredim> Do not start the setup screen,
Nov 25 18:27:58 <fredim> initramfs starts to enter commands
Nov 25 18:28:37 <GrueMaster> You need to follow the section for beagleboards that have nand.  Use a serial console to tell the beagleboard to boot from SD.
Nov 25 18:30:47 <fredim> Connecting BeagleBoard on the computer?
Nov 25 18:30:52 <fredim> Using usb-serial, or usb?
Nov 25 18:31:46 <GrueMaster> You need to connect to the serial port on the beagle.
Nov 25 18:42:43 <ogra_ac> i dont thinnk we had serial enabled on the lucid images
Nov 25 18:43:05 <ogra_ac> oh, for typing in the fatload, yeah
Nov 25 18:43:51 * ogra_ac would recommend using the maverick images instead of lucid though
Nov 25 18:44:03 <ogra_ac> they dont take ages to run the installer
Nov 25 19:14:26 <GrueMaster> ogra_ac: I think I found the wiki.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/BugWorkflow  Need to move it to Arm/ and tweek it for latest info.  I'll try to work on that next week.
Nov 25 19:15:00 <GrueMaster> I was surprised I couldn't find it even with google.
Nov 25 19:15:53 <GrueMaster> Fortunately, it ws in my bookmarks on my home system (just wish firefox still used html files instead of XML files for bookmarks).
Nov 25 19:16:52 <GrueMaster> Well, I'm off for family fun (i.e. watching the family play some boring card game while I cozy up with the PS3).
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