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Dec 02 03:36:19 <Sp0tter> does ubuntu run on the Kindel 3?
Dec 02 04:56:50 <DanaG> hmm, what's a good ubuntu-supporting ARM thingy with gigabit ethernet AND sata?
Dec 02 04:57:02 <DanaG> Marvell's old Kirkwood doesn't do armv7l.
Dec 02 08:50:33 <hrw> morning
Dec 02 10:04:00 <hrw> did someone here noticed problems with latest natty amd64 kernel and ftdi_sio usb-serial dongles?
Dec 02 11:08:56 <ogra_ac_> JamieBennett, so there is a ton of changes between maverick and natty in busybox, will take a while to identify the one at fault
Dec 02 11:09:24 <JamieBennett> ogra_ac: indeed, I took a look earlier and came to the same conclusion
Dec 02 11:09:51 <ogra_ac> the prob is that we only have very few merges between the changes
Dec 02 11:10:40 <ogra_ac> i still dont get why tgall_foo has it working on one board
Dec 02 11:11:57 <JamieBennett> me neither
Dec 02 13:51:02 <ndec> rsalveti: ogra_ac: hi. i just entered #684165, in case it rings a bell to you...
Dec 02 13:51:21 <rsalveti> bug 684165
Dec 02 13:51:22 <ubot2> Launchpad bug 684165 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Pulseaudio FTBS on PandaBoard with -j2 (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/684165
Dec 02 15:20:25 <tmzt_g2root> ogra_ac: what shell is used in initrd?
Dec 02 15:20:54 <ogra_ac> tmzt_g2root, busybox
Dec 02 15:22:00 <tmzt_g2root> statically linked or against klibc?
Dec 02 15:22:35 <ogra_ac> nothing but run-init links against klibc
Dec 02 15:22:43 <ogra_ac> liked against glibc
Dec 02 15:41:19 <avinashhm> hi, is any one familiar with lockdep asserting bugs .. I am stuck with a deadlock bug ..i wanted to know if a single task can hold multiple mutexes ???.. error @  @ http://paste.ubuntu.com/539017/ ... any help ???
Dec 02 16:36:50 <GrueMaster> ogra_ac: Can the failing busybox be tested w/o having to run in initrd?  I.e. can it be launched in a chroot?
Dec 02 16:37:15 <ogra_ac> no
Dec 02 16:37:22 <ogra_ac> well
Dec 02 16:37:33 <ogra_ac> its exec that fails somehow
Dec 02 16:37:41 <ogra_ac> you could try to use exec from it
Dec 02 16:38:21 <ogra_ac> but the busybox-initramfs binary is built with different options than the normal busybox binary 8teh package does three build passes)
Dec 02 16:39:01 <GrueMaster> I understand.  But that shouldn't mean that it can't be executed in a chroot environment after being built.
Dec 02 16:40:10 <GrueMaster> And I would think you would have better control over it in that environment (i.e. not killing the system).
Dec 02 16:43:05 <ogra_ac> sure, well, its fixed now
Dec 02 16:43:16 <ogra_ac> more important is that we test the new images
Dec 02 16:43:32 <GrueMaster> I thought you were still going to look for the offending patch or something.
Dec 02 16:44:11 <ogra_ac> nah
Dec 02 16:44:19 <GrueMaster> btw:  just got a blank email that the image failed to build.
Dec 02 16:44:22 <ogra_ac> upload happened hours agi, bug is closed
Dec 02 16:44:35 <ogra_ac> colin might have canceled it
Dec 02 16:44:46 <ogra_ac> since he just gave me a ubiquity fix to test
Dec 02 16:44:57 * ogra_ac needs to relocate and test that now
Dec 02 16:45:56 <ogra> phew, damned stairs
Dec 02 16:46:07 <ogra> one day i'll put an elevator in this house
Dec 02 16:46:45 <rsalveti> ogra: it'll probably help if you stop smoking :-)
Dec 02 16:46:56 <GrueMaster> I keep saying the same thing, but since NCommander is upstairs, the desire for me to use it diminishes greatly.
Dec 02 16:47:06 <ogra> well, i could put an ashtray in the elevator
Dec 02 16:47:13 <GrueMaster> heh
Dec 02 16:49:42 <GrueMaster> Just open a window and sit on the ledge.
Dec 02 16:51:16 <ogra> we have -10°C here
Dec 02 16:51:52 <rsalveti> hehe
Dec 02 16:52:31 <hrw> about say here
Dec 02 16:53:28 <ogra> only ? i thought poland was colder
Dec 02 16:53:42 <GrueMaster> And this bothers me...how?
Dec 02 16:53:59 <hrw> ogra: depends on part
Dec 02 16:54:03 <ogra> ah
Dec 02 16:56:45 <GrueMaster> You could turn a spare room into a smoking room.  The ones I have seen at the Atlanta, Georgia airport look like you are looking into a fog bank.
Dec 02 16:57:27 <ogra> why the heck would i do that ?
Dec 02 16:57:44 <GrueMaster> because it is -10c outside?
Dec 02 16:57:51 <ogra> so you think i would sit in a single room while my GF walks smoking through the house ?
Dec 02 16:58:08 <GrueMaster> Then why put an ashtray in the elevator?
Dec 02 16:58:31 <ogra> because i could smoke while going up and down ?
Dec 02 16:59:12 * ogra guesses GrueMaster just didnt get the joke above
Dec 02 16:59:27 <ogra> go and take a coffee bath ;)
Dec 02 17:05:11 <ogra> geeez, natty looks ....
Dec 02 17:05:18 <ogra> ... well like maverick
Dec 02 17:05:57 <ogra> GrueMaster, the image failed to build because of ubiquity being out of sync (FYI)
Dec 02 17:06:01 <rsalveti> haha, at least for us it should look quite the same
Dec 02 17:06:10 <ogra> yeah
Dec 02 17:06:17 <ogra> the firefox icon has new text
Dec 02 17:06:28 <ogra> thats the most noticeable difference
Dec 02 17:07:46 <ogra> GrueMaster, also, if you want to test the new image, you will need this fix http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/trunk/revision/4446
Dec 02 17:08:05 <ogra> (just gets uploaded now)
Dec 02 17:09:20 <GrueMaster> What new image?  I thought it was canceled or failed to build.
Dec 02 17:09:35 <ogra> right, colin just restarted the build
Dec 02 17:09:50 <GrueMaster> But it will still need this fix?
Dec 02 17:09:51 <ogra> he missed the publisher on arm
Dec 02 17:09:54 <ogra> yes
Dec 02 17:10:09 <ogra> that one only just gets uploaded now
Dec 02 17:10:32 <ogra> our image should be done by about the same time the fix hits the archive
Dec 02 17:10:43 <ogra> no way to get that into the image now
Dec 02 17:11:37 <ogra> its two lines in a python file, easy to quickly hack into the SD card
Dec 02 17:11:55 <GrueMaster> ok
Dec 02 17:12:01 <ogra> with it and the fixed busybox everything looks really good over here
Dec 02 17:13:42 <ogra> working sound OOTB \o/
Dec 02 17:38:41 <janimo> NCommander: I did a mono build on kakadu. The make check pass fails though, it does not get to the summary of the test run. Many errors (SIGSEGV)
Dec 02 17:38:56 <janimo> will try on beagle when I get it
Dec 02 17:40:48 <janimo> although the bugs are probably the same as the ARM core is similar from what I see
Dec 02 17:41:36 <rsalveti> GrueMaster: ogra: just finishing the installer with the busybox and uniquity fix, seems to be working well
Dec 02 17:41:53 <rsalveti> good to test the linaro's kernel for omap 3 later
Dec 02 17:44:14 <janimo> rsalveti: uniquity, hmm. Are two projects merging? ;)
Dec 02 17:44:32 <rsalveti> haha, *ubiquity
Dec 02 17:46:14 <dmart> pm215, markos_: here's what the first snippet should maybe look like: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/539061/
Dec 02 17:57:44 <GrueMaster> rsalveti: I have already been doing some testing of the linaro kernel on XM.  Is there anything specific I should test?
Dec 02 17:58:20 <rsalveti> GrueMaster: nops, would just be good to test the 37 with natty, and see how it goes
Dec 02 17:58:30 <rsalveti> because this is our target to use the linaro's kernel
Dec 02 18:03:02 <GrueMaster> ok, I'll start my image updating to natty.  Currently running maverick-proposed.
Dec 02 18:58:52 <ogra_ac> look, more arm netbooks !
Dec 02 18:58:54 <ogra_ac> http://www.visual-land.com/vl760_black.html
Dec 02 18:59:39 <ogra_ac> *g*
Dec 02 19:01:09 <rsalveti> ARM 248MHz 32 Bit-CPU
Dec 02 19:01:15 <rsalveti> Embedded Windows CE 5.0 Operating System
Dec 02 19:01:16 <rsalveti> hehe
Dec 02 19:01:30 <rsalveti> ram 64MB
Dec 02 19:01:48 <ogra_ac> well, available in black *and* white
Dec 02 19:01:57 <rsalveti> hahah
Dec 02 19:02:13 <GrueMaster> amazon.com has a lot of new arm based systems, but the vast majority are arm9 or arm11.
Dec 02 19:02:34 <ogra_ac> i guess that onesis also arm9
Dec 02 19:02:38 <ogra_ac> *one is
Dec 02 19:03:32 <GrueMaster> Windows CE 5.0?  Ancient.  (equivalent to Windows 2000).
Dec 02 19:04:09 <ogra_ac> yep
Dec 02 19:06:25 <GrueMaster> I wonder if the new color Nook uses the more recent (i.e. fixed) imx51 chip, or if it is hobbled like the netwalker version.
Dec 02 19:08:16 <GrueMaster> Oh, nevermind.  It is an omap 3621.
Dec 02 19:08:27 <GrueMaster> I.e. BeagleXM.
Dec 02 19:09:14 <ogra_ac> doesnt that have backlight and wifi etc ?
Dec 02 19:09:42 <ogra_ac> i.e. everything i dont want on a reader :)
Dec 02 19:29:12 <tmzt> GrueMaster: omap, yeah
Dec 03 01:49:26 <surferdude> Hi all, I just tried to build Ubuntu 10.10 for my BeagleBoard xM. On the serial console I get a login prompt but I don't know what to type in. Does anyone know what the default is?
Dec 03 01:58:48 <surferdude> I'm not even getting any video output on the hdmi port
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