**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Dec 18 03:00:02 2010 Dec 18 15:01:25 hey guys, i wanna talk you about an incredible thing that is happing in tv boxes and interet suplier here but i wanna be sure that i'm not talking alone :) Dec 18 15:03:34 rsalveti, hmm if I plug an USB-serial into the pandaboard while it's running, am I supposed to get something? screen -m -c /dev/null /dev/ttyUSB0 115200 8n1 doesn't show any activity or answer to keypresses Dec 18 15:04:20 not to make short things long, free (internet supplier gonna supply for a 50 euros of bill due to changing the box its box and the new box that will begin to be sent januaryt Dec 18 15:06:03 instead of paying 30 euros for hundreds of TV channels + HD tuner TNT + 100 mega downloads / 50 mega upload , reserved for each custumer and only for the internet part, means the TV bandwith is bonus Dec 18 15:06:43 a local phone with hundreds of countries where calls are totally free Dec 18 15:09:09 with this new box, now they've managed to buy the last French Cellular Network Liscence, before they are allowed to sell phones, they give a kick with this box that for 6 more euros only will makes your loolocal phone being able to call any phone for free Dec 18 15:09:24 anywhere 24/7 Dec 18 15:09:59 and as it's SIP protocol, i can call from my iPhone, either in 3g or in Wifi, means nearly anywhere Dec 18 15:11:46 the box is a game console with graphism between wii and PS3, blueray player, designed by phillip stark (we like it or we don't but i do), the box does NAS server, has got an OS with a perfect browser like chrome to do everything and surf using the remote ontrol that feature acceloremeter and gyyroscope Dec 18 15:12:21 they are even giving a game controller with the pack Dec 18 15:13:16 guerby: you need to add the proper ttyO2.conf file at /etc/init Dec 18 15:13:23 250 mb storage server, a freebox store with Gameloft being linked to them, delivered with asphalt5 and let 's golf it 2 Dec 18 15:13:33 so upstart can run getty on it Dec 18 15:14:03 rsalveti, ok Dec 18 15:14:44 guerby: http://paste.ubuntu.com/545291/ Dec 18 15:15:26 rsalveti, ok that works Dec 18 15:15:29 rsalveti, thx! Dec 18 15:15:35 guerby: did you see any other crash? Dec 18 15:15:54 rsalveti, still the same kind of messages but no crashes for now. Dec 18 15:16:09 guerby: ok, cool Dec 18 15:16:15 rsalveti, I just relaunched the "make -k check" part that crashed the first time, and it got past the crash point Dec 18 15:16:27 rsalveti, this means crashes are not easy to reproduce ... Dec 18 15:16:32 =\ Dec 18 15:17:12 rsalveti, is there anything else to do to get crash messages than screen -m -c /dev/null /dev/ttyUSB0 115200 8n1 ? I get the expected login prompt for now Dec 18 15:17:52 guerby: should be fine now, then if we get a crash you can just resume screen and get the output Dec 18 15:18:49 if some wanna take a look at what it looks like and what are the exact specification can search for the device name Freebox v6 Dec 18 15:19:37 rsalveti, ok, I'll wait for a new crash then :) Dec 18 15:19:38 and another thing, there's an internal HDD with the ability to install any OS you want, they've said they want the more moders or hackers they can have Dec 18 15:19:46 everythins is open Dec 18 15:19:48 :-) Dec 18 15:19:50 for 6 euros :) Dec 18 15:40:38 of course the reason i talked about this quadruple play first box in France, because it's armed with ARM 1,2 ghz and Ubuntu can be install like any other OS Dec 18 16:14:04 jacquesdupontd: Do you have details on the freebox server offering? I didn't read about installing the OS of your choice as you mention Dec 18 16:14:07 this would really be awesome Dec 18 16:14:12 I miss that from the start Dec 18 16:14:40 jacquesdupontd: Also, if you have pointers about the hardware, that's helpful; I think it's only armv5 or v6 though, so not supported by Ubuntu anymore Dec 18 16:14:52 since it's 1.2 GHz, I guess it's a marvell chip Dec 18 16:16:00 they say it's an arm9, so v5 Dec 18 16:16:46 with ESATA Dec 18 16:19:23 yep, it's kirkwood Dec 18 17:01:29 lool, freebox v6 is based on Atom CE4100 not ARM Dec 18 17:01:35 jacquesdupontd, ^ Dec 18 17:07:21 oops sorry freebox server is ARM9, freebox player is Intel Dec 18 17:07:22 http://www.cnx-software.com/category/processors/intel-ce41xx/ Dec 18 17:23:39 wonder what the SoC with the SFP is... Dec 18 17:46:15 it seems to be NAS server Dec 18 17:46:41 the offer is just for French inernet custumers Dec 18 17:48:50 Free is an internet TV local phone and soon Cellular Phone supplier, but as they wanted to use their liscence for Cellular Network before being able to sell Cellular Phones, they had this idea of New box wich is a mix of a mini server mixed with an xbox and mixed with a wii for tonrol and better than an apple TV Dec 18 17:50:58 gameloft is partner for the launching and deliver the box with asphlat5 (for tv to be played with the wireless remote gamepad with accelerometer and gyroscope) and Let's golf it 2 Dec 18 17:52:29 it seems its gonna be really easy to develop any kind of app cause everything is open even source code, boot loaders etc... Free is a verysmart compagny they 've started from nothing and now are the 2nfd best and most taken supplier for internet behind the ancient monopoloe Orange (france telecom) Dec 18 17:53:19 and from the beginning of the first freeboxes 5 years ago, on the first 2 mega bit offer , the freebox was already a linux based device Dec 18 17:54:23 for 5 years they never updated the price 30 euros, others were asking you money for each little new features, first it has been wifi, then, tv the other things Dec 18 17:54:39 but free Always 30 euros and so many things to be done Dec 18 17:57:15 So if you make the exchange of your Freebox V5 HD counter the V6 you'll pay for the first time 6 more euros, but will have all those different services, a store, a based os, + possibility to install any os in dual boot, 250 giga server NAS based, another amazing thing thing is that no control will be made for apps developped, wich means, every app you'll be developing will be sold on the store Dec 18 17:57:32 lemme show you a video i'm talking in paralallel with a friend Dec 18 17:58:42 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGjvImz3QuU Dec 18 17:59:02 server : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T3MTCnN6Us&feature=related Dec 18 17:59:35 remote control for TV and OS and Media Player Control : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HBSMIgzsVY&feature=related Dec 18 18:00:01 the player : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEHVBGSXuus&feature=related Dec 18 18:00:23 freestore : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e2udA2ABgE&feature=related Dec 18 18:00:48 general video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db4mXb7LbKI&feature=related Dec 18 21:20:31 anybody care to take a stab at why Id have such trouble getting the user-mode network stack on qemu to connect to my host? Its an ubu-arm install in that VM... Dec 18 21:21:00 missing packages in the VM...? Dec 18 22:01:47 hello eveyone Dec 18 22:02:21 is it possible to burn an .img.gz file to a usb, and later run it? Dec 18 22:02:47 what do u want? Dec 18 22:03:24 i want to test natty narwhal on my netbook Dec 18 22:03:47 but i don't posess any sd cards Dec 18 22:03:49 x86? Dec 18 22:03:54 so i want to use my usb Dec 18 22:03:55 yes Dec 18 22:04:07 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/daily-preinstalled/current/ Dec 18 22:04:22 rsalveti: What kind of target HW are you using? Dec 18 22:04:22 ok.. /join #ubuntu Dec 18 22:04:35 i found this web site and now downloading natty-preinstalled-netbook-armel+omap4.img.gz Dec 18 22:04:38 ow ok Dec 18 22:04:47 i just came here because of that web page Dec 18 22:15:01 sinan_aykut: You want http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ for x86 netbook. The omap4 images are specificly for TI Omap4 Arm SOC processors (similar to smart phone processors only newer). Dec 18 22:24:44 irc=scareee Dec 18 22:24:57 GrueMaster, i use a netbook Dec 18 22:25:12 GrueMaster, do you think it is not suitible for my machine? Dec 18 22:26:10 Does your machine have an Intel or AMD processor? Then it is not suitable. The omap4 image is for an entirely different processor design and not compatible with your system. Dec 18 22:27:24 GrueMaster, ow i see, it looks like i have got an wrong image right now Dec 18 22:27:57 If you want to test the daily Ubuntu image for x86, then follow the link I posted. If you want a stable image, go here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/maverick/release/ Dec 18 22:28:10 GrueMaster, how can i learn my processor type? Dec 18 22:28:28 What brand netbook do you have? What model? Dec 18 22:30:35 GrueMaster, i have got a Asus EEE Pc 1015 PEM Dec 18 22:33:03 Here is one link a simple google search turned up. http://hubpages.com/hub/Asus-Eee-PC-1015PEM-Netbook-Review-On-Ubuntu Dec 18 22:33:33 Essentially, it is an Intel Atom N550 Processor (x86). Dec 18 22:35:05 GrueMaster, i wanted to try natty narwhal because i can not enable compiz effects on my ubuntu 10.10 Dec 18 22:35:09 The link I posted has installation tips and a review of running Ubuntu on that system. Beyond that, you should move to the #ubuntu or #ubuntu-desktop channel as this one is more geared for an entirely different design. Dec 18 22:36:07 ow ok, so thanks for your help and kindness Dec 18 22:36:08 Natty is at Alpha 1 (meaning very unstable). The link for the daily builds is http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ Dec 18 22:36:48 ok thank you, so you don't recommend installing it, right? Dec 18 22:37:42 I would try the live version first. Just remember that it is still early in the development stages. Dec 18 22:39:19 You can boot it live from USB following the instructions on the link I posted. See the CD Burning Guide. There are tools available to copy to USB instead of burning a cd. Dec 18 22:41:26 ok thank you so much, i just wanted to see compiz effects on unity, but thanks anyway Dec 19 01:55:15 guerby: there are two pieces in the freebox v6, the media player and the server; the server is ARM based Dec 19 01:55:55 guerby: as I said, the SoC is kirkwood **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Dec 19 02:59:57 2010