**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jan 11 02:59:58 2011 Jan 11 03:00:15 Hello Jan 11 03:02:45 I have a question anyone with a sec Jan 11 03:27:09 I have, im sure to most of you fine folks, is a simple question concerning rootfromscratch would i be wasing my time just to post it ? Jan 11 03:29:34 one must ask to find out... Jan 11 03:29:40 cool Jan 11 03:30:38 Iim wasting my time setting up ubuntu on my evo and epic phones Jan 11 03:31:38 I* have succ setup the premade image and my own image using the edubuntu website, Jan 11 03:31:51 there's really no ubuntu 'kernel' for that situation, the most you'd get is a ubuntu userspace you could chroot into.. Jan 11 03:32:12 hold on now i type slow Jan 11 03:33:34 I am happy with what i have done with this i am running programs on my phone with maveric lucid and jaunty Jan 11 03:33:39 however Jan 11 03:33:50 my question is Jan 11 03:34:11 when i use the premade image everything is a oty Jan 11 03:34:37 when i chroot with my built image, Jan 11 03:35:11 i get hold on i have to cut and paste this Jan 11 03:35:52 Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?) Jan 11 03:36:06 and termanil does not work Jan 11 03:36:18 on my phone Jan 11 03:36:25 not in qemu Jan 11 03:36:40 is that make sense Jan 11 03:36:44 ? Jan 11 03:36:59 so... a premade image works.. your built image doesn't work.... question? who made the 'premade' image.. Jan 11 03:37:23 its the one here..... Jan 11 03:37:44 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootfsFromScratch Jan 11 03:38:30 the ubuntu terninal does not have a prompt in ubuntu on my phone Jan 11 03:38:50 in the premade one it works Jan 11 03:39:14 i have been doing this for days and days Jan 11 03:39:48 i wrote this hold on and ill link it Jan 11 03:40:15 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881401 Jan 11 03:41:37 i dont under stand the premade was supposivly made using "the steps above" Jan 11 03:41:53 in the article that is Jan 11 03:43:23 ah, so it's more then just the premade image.. is this the one that works? http://w3.impa.br/~gabrield/data/ubuntu-arm-development-rootfs.tar.bz2 Jan 11 03:44:57 1 sec Jan 11 03:45:20 yes Jan 11 03:46:01 that was not made with the steps above in the article? Jan 11 03:46:04 well, that's not an ubuntu.com download, more then likely the user who uploaded it did something else special, you should ping him.. Jan 11 03:46:23 ping him? Jan 11 03:47:32 well, if you work your way down his web link: http://w3.impa.br/~gabrield/ looks like a homepage with contact info.. Jan 11 03:47:48 thanks Jan 11 03:48:10 so for sure you think he modified it some how Jan 11 03:49:03 nope.. i have no idea if he modified anything.. but to ask him how he built it would be the next logical step.. Jan 11 03:49:55 cool thans for the help (one of the links pointed here) Jan 11 03:58:40 Homefix, another thing, that premade was karmic, with lucid+ you need CONFIG_DEVTMPFS which maybe causing the /dev/pts issue too.. Jan 11 04:05:29 I tried every poss conception :( Jan 11 04:06:21 I even made jaunty could not get it to chroot Jan 11 04:07:01 i wrote to rsalveti maybe ill have luck Jan 11 04:07:33 Query is the way to message someone? im new to irc Jan 11 04:09:02 the premade is great however there is only 2G 3 much better Jan 11 04:11:02 Of coarse that was meant as -image 2G not 2g coverage ;) Jan 11 04:13:22 rcn-ee: by the way is this, CONFIG_DEVTMPFT somthing i can just throw in there Jan 11 04:14:09 no it's a userspace/kernel requirement of lucid... so IF you where able to make a working karmic image, but only LUCID/MAVERICK failed, that would be one thing to look into.. Jan 11 04:15:03 no mav does the same thing Jan 11 04:15:36 ill just have to hope auther gets back Jan 11 04:16:37 well he's probally still asleep, about 80-90% of the developers on this list are in europe... Jan 11 04:17:13 awww lern smtng new each day Jan 11 04:20:32 i new what ping was by the way, i thought irc had some strange contact method or somthing haha Jan 11 04:26:29 now that i think about it i used the prebuilt image and do-release-upgrade to maveric and terminals worked fine just need bigger image 3G Jan 11 08:06:57 Anyone doing remote gdb debugging for armel/omap target? Jan 11 15:57:50 Hi i was hoping you could help me with this problem: Jan 11 15:57:50 I am using (on a dedicated ubuntu computer with Maverick edition)"https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootfsFromScratch" example to create a qemu image using "sudo rootstock --fqdn ubuntu --login ubuntu --password ubuntu --seed nano --notarball --imagesize 3G". Jan 11 15:57:50 I have also used the "sudo project-rootstock/rootstock --fqdn ubuntu --login ubuntu --password ubuntu --seed nano --notarball --imagesize 3G" Jan 11 15:57:50 and: "sudo ./rootstock --fqdn ubuntu --login ubuntu --password ubuntu --seed nano --notarball --imagesize 3G" way. Jan 11 15:57:50 They all work great. I am able to load the image with qemu, got ssh setup and working alls great in life. Jan 11 15:57:50 The problem lies HERE:(....... Jan 11 15:57:50 I am using these images (mostly for fun), to setup ubuntu onto my Evo and Epic smartphones using this method: "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881401" to chroot the image. Jan 11 15:57:51 ITS AWSOME IT WORKS AND LOTS OF FUN! Jan 11 15:57:52 well sorry for screaming but it really excites me this open source Ubuntu Stuff. (i am a win user, but I found a new toy) Jan 11 15:57:52 Using the prebuilt image everything works excellent (except for the small image size 2G) that is why i need to use my 3G built image. Jan 11 15:57:53 My problem: My built image works flawlessly as well, with one exception, (that i have noticed) is, inside ubuntu (on my phone chrooted with android) the terminals do not have a prompt# only black, square curser, and will not except input. I have to use the terminal program inside android to apt-get and such. Jan 11 15:57:53 I have noticed with my build images, using apt-get during install, i see "Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?)" Jan 11 15:57:54 error. My reserch says terminals wont work if system cannot write to /dev/pts. Jan 11 15:57:54 The prebuilt image does not have this issue. Jan 11 16:27:24 Morning Jan 11 16:27:35 Has anyone here written network device drivers? Jan 11 16:27:38 I' Jan 11 16:27:54 I'm torn between using alloc_skb and netdev_alloc_skb Jan 11 16:34:59 (or now that I've found it, netdev_alloc_skb_ip_align() ) Jan 11 17:08:13 hello anyone listening i culd use some help with an ARM question? Jan 11 17:08:22 just ask Jan 11 17:08:54 Ok Jan 11 17:09:07 Homefix1: do not ask to ask but ask - gold rule of irc Jan 11 17:09:32 Hi i was hoping you could help me with this problem: Jan 11 17:09:33 I am using (on a dedicated ubuntu computer with Maverick edition)"https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootfsFromScratch" example to create a qemu image using "sudo rootstock --fqdn ubuntu --login ubuntu --password ubuntu --seed nano --notarball --imagesize 3G". Jan 11 17:09:33 I have also used the "sudo project-rootstock/rootstock --fqdn ubuntu --login ubuntu --password ubuntu --seed nano --notarball --imagesize 3G" Jan 11 17:09:33 and: "sudo ./rootstock --fqdn ubuntu --login ubuntu --password ubuntu --seed nano --notarball --imagesize 3G" way. Jan 11 17:09:33 They all work great. I am able to load the image with qemu, got ssh setup and working alls great in life. Jan 11 17:09:33 The problem lies HERE:(....... Jan 11 17:09:33 I am using these images (mostly for fun), to setup ubuntu onto my Evo and Epic smartphones using this method: "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881401" to chroot the image. Jan 11 17:09:34 ITS AWSOME IT WORKS AND LOTS OF FUN! Jan 11 17:09:34 well sorry for screaming but it really excites me this open source Ubuntu Stuff. (i am a win user, but I found a new toy) Jan 11 17:09:35 Using the prebuilt image everything works excellent (except for the small image size 2G) that is why i need to use my 3G built image. Jan 11 17:09:35 My problem: My built image works flawlessly as well, with one exception, (that i have noticed) is, inside ubuntu (on my phone chrooted with android) the terminals do not have a prompt# only black, square curser, and will not except input. I have to use the terminal program inside android to apt-get and such. Jan 11 17:09:36 I have noticed with my build images, using apt-get during install, i see "Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?)" Jan 11 17:09:36 error. My reserch says terminals wont work if system cannot write to /dev/pts. Jan 11 17:09:37 The prebuilt image does not have this issue. Jan 11 17:12:48 so mount it? Jan 11 17:22:26 hrw: who are you talking to Jan 11 17:26:28 when i try to mount /dev/pts I get "devpts already mounted or /dev/pts busy mount: according to mtab, devpts is already mounted on dev/pts Jan 11 17:31:23 mounted it also inside of chroot? Jan 11 17:33:25 the chroot scrips remain unchanged prebuilt "image" works however My "image" does not it lies within image no? Jan 11 17:35:59 I do mount of /dev/pts /proc inside of chroot always Jan 11 17:37:44 could you take a look at #modprobe ext2 Jan 11 17:37:44 Here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881401 Jan 11 17:38:52 I leave the script unchanged between images one is able to write to dev/pts other image does not same karmic build Jan 11 17:41:54 hur sorry lost my conn. Jan 11 17:41:59 Im back Jan 11 17:42:32 hrw: im back Jan 11 17:47:11 I have to reboot be back in 3min Jan 11 18:27:26 hrw: sory are you with me? Jan 11 18:43:29 I have this question anyone have some time to look? Scroll to my last post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10516800#post10516800 Jan 11 20:21:16 GrueMaster_, nilfs2-tools Jan 11 20:21:29 GrueMaster_, http://www.nilfs.org/ Jan 11 20:27:27 ogra: what is the differance between this "gabrield/data/ubuntu-arm-development-rootfs.tar.bz2" and "this "rootstock --fqdn ubuntu --login ubuntu --password ubuntu --dist karmic --notarball --imagesize 3G" I am having issues with my terminal and getting this error Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?) do ya have a minute to look at this "http://forum.xda-developers. Jan 11 20:27:27 com/showthread.php?t=881401" (scroll to the bottom) Jan 11 20:27:27 Thanks Jan 11 20:36:26 Homefix1, i have no idea, i guess you would have to ask gabrield (whoever that is) Jan 11 20:53:37 ogra: no no this "http://w3.impa.br/~gabrield/data/ubuntu-arm-development-rootfs.tar.bz2, is the prebuilt image offered here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootfsFromScratch you dont know who made it? I only ask because you are the contact under article. Jan 11 20:53:57 i dont know either, its not made by any ubuntu person Jan 11 20:54:24 find out who that gabrield guy is and talk to him Jan 11 20:58:48 ogra: Im sorry i lost my connection could you repeat your answer if you did? Jan 11 20:59:07 i dont know either what that image is, its not made by any ubuntu person Jan 11 20:59:09 find out who that gabrield guy is and talk to him Jan 11 21:08:51 ogra: if you dont mind how do you fit in or what do you have do do your role with the article "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RootfsFromScratch" Jan 11 21:09:24 i wrote rootstock initially and i initially created that wikipage (two years ago) Jan 11 21:09:40 i guess what im trying to ask is where did the image come from' Jan 11 21:09:45 i didnt touch either of it since a year, rsalveti maintains the code now Jan 11 21:10:06 but none of us has anything to do with the changes of the wikipage Jan 11 21:11:04 according to the url you pasted above the image came from some brazilian guy named gabrield Jan 11 21:11:24 (but thats something you can guess yourself by looking at it) Jan 11 21:14:20 ogra: were you able to read my long question i emailed to you i really would like to fix the "Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?)" thing it really has nothing to do with gabriel anyway Jan 11 21:14:43 no, thats likely your kernel missing bits Jan 11 21:15:06 either devtmpfs or udev usually create this device Jan 11 21:15:35 if your kernel lacks devtmpfs udev should care, make sure it is running ... Jan 11 21:15:51 kernel in image or in my android device i use the image with Jan 11 21:23:55 ogra: it doesnt make sense if my device is lacking bits it would not work for either image .Both karmic and if the image was modified in what direction should i look to find how to modify myself Jan 11 21:25:20 compare /dev Jan 11 21:25:39 by the way i ment kernel on development machine not in the image Jan 11 21:26:04 there surely is no kernel in the image Jan 11 21:26:15 corse not Jan 11 21:30:11 ogra: forgive me for being a newb can u tell me do you mean to compare /dev folders between images? Jan 11 21:31:13 look at the contents Jan 11 21:31:23 (of the /dev folders) Jan 11 21:32:49 hello Jan 11 21:33:05 can someone tell me anything interesting about the yaffs2 file system? Jan 11 21:33:34 in particular what i have to do to be able to mount yaffs2 images on my laptop... Jan 11 21:34:24 ogra: i am using my chrooted with my built image using android terminal logged in typed cd /dev then ls got a lot of stuff Jan 11 21:34:55 inside the chroot ? Jan 11 21:35:12 yes Jan 11 21:35:32 i have a ubuntu prompt Jan 11 21:35:43 well, compare with the image Jan 11 21:35:51 and see what the difference is Jan 11 21:36:11 root@localhost:/dev# is it actually Jan 11 21:37:06 and of corse you mean to run qemu gabriels image and look for differances? Jan 11 21:37:20 I hope Jan 11 21:37:50 lool, could we have a chat about bug 623375 while we have face to face abilities ? it just hits us here Jan 11 21:37:51 Launchpad bug 623375 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "Skipping the bootloader installation when creating rootfs or installation media (affects: 1) (heat: 27)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/623375 Jan 11 21:38:56 Homefix, really, just compare the directory content of both /dev directories, if there is anything lacking in one, use MKDEV to create the device files Jan 11 21:39:25 err Jan 11 21:39:27 MAKEDEV Jan 11 21:39:54 You the person thnks Jan 11 21:45:23 ogra: Ok Jan 11 21:45:29 ogra: I'm in Lonestar III Jan 11 21:45:58 ok, heading upstairs in 5 Jan 11 23:10:06 ogra: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/BugWorkflow Jan 11 23:23:15 lol Jan 11 23:26:05 When i do MAKEDEV update i get "eval: 1: major_device-mapper=254: not found" the curser looks like its awaiting input or is it doing somthing its been a few minuts Jan 11 23:37:24 did you read the manpage ? Jan 11 23:38:07 no Im a noob thnx Jan 11 23:41:59 Hi oqra there seems to be quite a bit missing in the dev folder between the two images however i have no clue how to put these device files back such as tty38 i know its a terminal device file or whatever but how do i get it from one image to the other Jan 12 00:55:25 ogra: Thank you I now have a # **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jan 12 02:59:58 2011