**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 17 02:59:57 2011 Jan 17 09:04:23 morning Jan 17 09:35:06 hola Jan 17 12:39:35 hrmpf, archive is still out of sync Jan 17 13:01:19 ogra: with 5 gig ram free, you can compile eclipse on tmpfs. Jan 17 13:01:44 sure Jan 17 13:01:59 (really, later :p ) Jan 17 13:02:05 but first i would need to solder 4.5G onto the board ;) Jan 17 13:02:55 persia: :) (thought I was already in this channel, apparently for some reason I wasn't ...) Jan 17 13:03:18 heh Jan 17 13:13:15 grrrr Jan 17 13:41:16 ogra: you need more than 5 gig or do you want to swap everything else while compiling. ;) Jan 17 13:42:06 i usually dont compile Qt, firefox, thunderbird or openoffice ... normal packages dont need these insane amounts of ram Jan 17 14:37:10 bug #684951 Jan 17 14:37:12 ogra: Bug 684951 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/684951 is private Jan 17 15:33:35 rsalveti: quick question.. your new ppa seems to have same version # as what I was using from your old ppa.. how to I get 'apt-get install' to realize they are not the same and install from your new ppa? Jan 17 15:34:43 robclark: actually it's not the same: 4.7.0-0ubuntu4.2ppa2 (new) 4.7.0-0ubuntu4.2ppa1 (old) Jan 17 15:35:18 hmm.. sudo apt-get install libqt4-opengl tells me I already have latest version.. Jan 17 16:03:29 Is libqt4-opengl for QWS or X11? Jan 17 16:33:04 robclark: what oprofile version are you using atm? Jan 17 16:33:06 How is resolv.conf handled in respect of dhclient on maverick? Is it updated automatically? Jan 17 16:33:12 robclark: I remember I saw a but reported by GrueMaster Jan 17 16:33:29 sveinse: yup, should be Jan 17 16:33:29 rsalveti: whatever is in maverick.. although it is not working.. Jan 17 16:33:38 sveinse, if you use ifup (/etc/network/interfaces) it is Jan 17 16:33:42 but perf does seem to work, so that is what I'm using for now.. Jan 17 16:33:54 sveinse, plain manual dhclient call wont update it Jan 17 16:34:11 robclark: oh, got it, will try to check why oprofile is not working later Jan 17 16:34:14 ogra: Ahh. So ifup is it then... Jan 17 16:34:21 although you have to explicitly run perf_2.6.35-903 (the wrapper script isn't working) Jan 17 16:34:43 rsalveti: btw, any ideas about: "Unable to load graphicssystem "opengl"" Jan 17 16:34:47 ogra: Is ifup triggered by udev events (like eth cable insert)? Jan 17 16:35:27 not sure Jan 17 16:35:50 ogra: ok, thanks Jan 17 16:36:04 robbiew: hm, weird, should work if you have the proper qt opengl packages installed Jan 17 16:36:09 robbiew: sorry Jan 17 16:36:13 robclark: ^ Jan 17 16:36:48 it's possible I need to install something else.. I'm sort of newbie to qt so no idea where to start.. Jan 17 16:37:11 just to sanity check.. the backend is still called "opengl" and not "opengles" or something like that? Jan 17 16:38:41 robclark: afaik it should be still opengl Jan 17 16:40:13 the build sounds correct: OpenGL support ......... yes (OpenGL ES 2.x) Jan 17 16:41:50 rsalveti: short snippet from strace: http://pastebin.com/CBCgp3LP Jan 17 16:42:58 my guess something is not getting packaged, which should be in that directory? Jan 17 16:44:34 robclark: yup, could be the case Jan 17 16:44:43 let me check the logs Jan 17 16:44:51 k Jan 17 16:54:05 robclark: it seems fine http://paste.ubuntu.com/555140/ Jan 17 16:54:35 anyway, I'm starting my panda and will check Jan 17 16:54:56 let me just get some food first, almost 3 pm already Jan 17 16:55:10 rsalveti: /usr/lib/qt4/plugins/graphicssystems vs /usr/bin/graphicssystems Jan 17 16:55:56 but even on my desktop it's using /usr/lib/qt4/plugins/graphicssystems/libqglgraphicssystem.so Jan 17 16:56:15 hmm Jan 17 16:56:40 * rsalveti brb, lunch Jan 17 17:14:11 hi guys Jan 17 17:20:16 I've been working on bug #704027 so I'd like to have chances to testbuild before uploading Jan 17 17:20:17 Launchpad bug 704027 in gavl (Ubuntu) "gavl 1.2.0-1 FTBFS on armel (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/704027 Jan 17 17:20:38 there is a way to make me happy? :) Jan 17 17:22:22 Am I correct that there is no lsusb ported to armel? Jan 17 17:23:32 quadrispro, attach a debdiff to the bug and someone for the team will get to it Jan 17 17:23:39 s/for/of/ Jan 17 17:23:48 sveinse, hmm ? Jan 17 17:24:04 ogra@ac100:~$ which lsusb Jan 17 17:24:04 /usr/sbin/lsusb Jan 17 17:24:25 apt-get install lsusb Jan 17 17:24:28 E: Unable to locate package lsusb Jan 17 17:24:35 That's maverick Jan 17 17:25:06 you want usbutils Jan 17 17:25:27 aaahh.. go figure Jan 17 17:26:16 what is the status of natty? We are using maverick (via rootstock) and it works pretty good. Is natty something to consider over maverick? Jan 17 17:26:25 ogra, thanks Jan 17 17:27:05 sveinse, natty will bring the new unity-2d UI for arm Jan 17 17:27:36 Any major news for the platform itself, like new compile-settings etc? Jan 17 17:27:46 newer toolchain Jan 17 17:28:00 no changed default build options, no Jan 17 17:28:37 i think until we switch to hardfloat there wont be massive changes anymore Jan 17 17:29:06 and the hf port will still need time Jan 17 17:29:46 Am I correct to assume that there is no problems with using hardfloat in custom applications, right? Jan 17 17:30:24 it needs a complete recompile Jan 17 17:30:35 its a completely different ABI Jan 17 17:31:20 ok, so the application's external references (to libs & stuff) get garbled with the new ABI. So, basically, no then Jan 17 17:32:49 Are any of you doing remote debugging against armel? The armel cross compiler is available, but I cannot find any gdb cross for armel... Jan 17 17:33:33 i think lool just works on that Jan 17 17:33:36 Would be nice to have something that matched the gdbserver in armel Jan 17 17:33:45 nice! Jan 17 17:35:48 What's the deal with --sysroot being removed from the cross toolchain? Jan 17 17:35:50 sveinse: http://hudson.dooz.org/job/armel-gdb/ has a decently recent package Jan 17 17:36:09 lool: Great! Thanks Jan 17 17:36:30 I know that it conflicts with xdeb, but removing --sysroot is IMHO somwhat a drastic measure Jan 17 17:37:11 I ruins our target cross buildsystem Jan 17 17:37:59 rsalveti: The bug I filed in oprofile was because robclark pointed it out. I don't have much detail beyond what is in the bug report. Jan 17 17:38:47 lool: I presume it's matched against the armel gdbserver, similar to the gnueabi cross toolchain, right? Jan 17 17:58:57 sveinse: yes Jan 17 18:30:41 ping? Jan 17 18:43:31 argh, crap internet connection Jan 17 18:43:33 GrueMaster: ok Jan 17 19:11:16 hey this place is live for a change. Jan 17 19:11:36 * Jack87 needs peeps who want to try ubuntu on nook color. Jan 17 19:12:43 or help me try it and hope nook doesnt explode Jan 18 01:38:47 i have a device with a Cortex A8. how difficult would it be to build Maverick's kernel for it? Jan 18 01:49:53 josheee12[1]: depends a lot on what kind of device you're using Jan 18 01:50:09 saying it's cortex a8 only doesn't help much **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jan 18 02:59:57 2011