**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 31 02:59:57 2011 Jan 31 05:49:34 what sort of voodoo do I have to do to allow a serial login for maverick on a beagleboard (rev C3)? Jan 31 05:54:33 oh,remove "quiet splash"? I've tried adding "console=ttyS2,115200n8 serialtty=ttyS2" Jan 31 06:14:55 Kamondelious, You'll need to have some upstart job that generates a getty on ttyS2. jasper-initramfs should generate one on first boot if you're using that sort of image, and passed the console= on first boot. If not, you can probably get one with a quick copy&edit of e.g. /etc/init/tty5.conf Jan 31 06:18:39 persia, ahhh ok thanks Jan 31 06:28:11 and I'm in, awesome, thanks again persia Jan 31 06:31:22 There may be a few other things you have to adjust in a similar vein: maverick is really focused on the desktop/laptop use case. There's a few things in progress for Natty that ought make it simpler (like automatic provision of getty on serial consoles) Jan 31 06:33:40 like how the kernel can't find the driver for my usb wifi dongle now? Jan 31 06:34:56 No, that's likely a general problem. I doubt the kernel has that driver for any environment/architecture. Please file a bug with `ubuntu-bug linux` and report as much about the dongle as you can. Jan 31 06:35:37 it's been working fine for the past couple weeks Jan 31 06:35:41 =( Jan 31 06:36:02 On an Ubuntu system? Jan 31 06:36:29 yeah Jan 31 06:36:54 Very odd. That really oughtn't happen. Did you recently get a kernel upgrade? Jan 31 06:37:15 not unless it did it by itself Jan 31 06:38:23 You would have at least been advised (needs your password). Jan 31 06:39:17 I did an upgrade a few days ago, but the system's been rebooted a few times since then Jan 31 06:39:43 It ought to have shown up the first time, if it was a regression. Jan 31 06:39:54 indeed Jan 31 06:40:16 kernel hasn't changed Jan 31 06:45:18 hmm Jan 31 06:45:42 now the wifi dongle doesn't even show up under lsusb Jan 31 06:45:47 that's really odd Jan 31 06:46:17 the other devices are there, maybe the wifi dongle died Jan 31 06:46:21 that would suck Jan 31 06:47:06 Maybe a power thing? How is it attached? Jan 31 06:48:01 powered usb hub Jan 31 06:48:30 it's been working great for the last couple weeks Jan 31 06:49:22 Does a plug/unplug show anything in syslog? Jan 31 06:50:36 good question Jan 31 06:51:45 but I can't test that tonight, it'll require too much dis-assembly Jan 31 06:52:37 Well, if you get messages, you probably ended up with it hibernating unexpectedly. If not, you may want to try in another environment, but I suspect it's gone. Jan 31 06:53:07 indeed Jan 31 06:53:20 thanks again for your help Jan 31 08:53:22 What is consolekit? It seems its a system for managing permissions and such for logged in users. Am I right? Jan 31 08:54:10 I'm building an embedded system which will run exclusively off daemons/services. Can I be without it? It seems to me that consolekit pops up everywhere... Jan 31 08:58:15 sveinse: well i've got an embedded system without consolekit.. more than one even, i think. depends on what distribution you are running and what it's supposed to do. Jan 31 08:58:50 LetoThe2nd: maverick Jan 31 08:59:10 sveinse: mine don't even run ubuntu :P Jan 31 08:59:50 calling a machine running ubuntu embedded feels rather strange to me anyway ;-) Jan 31 08:59:57 My problem is pulseaudio ATM. Sound worked before the weekend, now I keep getting connection refused Jan 31 09:01:23 LetoThe2nd: Well, that's the choice we made. We found it better to use maverick over OE, since it offers a system more similar to "ordinary"/host linux systems Jan 31 09:07:18 sveinse: choose whatever you like, it's your project ;-) i just wanted to point out that i personally don't consider ubuntu being something worth calling embedded, for it brings all that stuff that i don't want to see there or that wouldn't fit into flash anyway (like all that funky gizmo-stuff that you are at the moment struggling with) :-) Jan 31 09:07:37 sveinse: therefore - sorry, can't help you with that one. Jan 31 09:19:37 * hrw will seek for sponsor to get flash-kernel with efika support into archive Jan 31 09:19:58 writing patch and waiting for merge is just waste of time Jan 31 09:57:10 ogra_: flash-kernel is still somewhere on a list? Jan 31 09:57:20 hrw, indeed Jan 31 09:57:39 i'll try to get to it this week Jan 31 09:57:59 thx Jan 31 09:58:06 i think i'll skip the merge and just apply the waiting patches though Jan 31 09:58:19 I have to dig patch from lp again... Jan 31 09:58:22 there is nothing overly important in debian we need Jan 31 09:58:33 i am subscribed to all the bugs Jan 31 09:59:53 I want to upgrade kernel on efika - flash-kernel started... Jan 31 11:03:57 hrw, are you going to the emdebian sprint ? Jan 31 11:05:26 ogra_: yes, Cambridge, UK one Jan 31 11:05:39 i'm looking for a hotel to stay Jan 31 11:05:51 i dont see any options on the wiki Jan 31 11:06:00 holiday inn express Jan 31 11:06:26 got a url or so ? i'll book through the travel agent Jan 31 11:06:49 http://mapy.google.pl/local_url?q=http://www.expresscambridge.co.uk/&dq=Holiday+Inn+Express&f=q&source=s_q&hl=pl&aq=3&sll=52.214128,0.144882&sspn=0.173124,0.260925&ie=UTF8&rq=1&ev=zi&split=1&z=12&jsv=310c&mpnum=1001&radius=6.64&vps=3&output=js&oi=miw&sa=X&ct=miw_link&cd=1&cad=homepage,cid:18353814746422007578&ei=lpdGTZilJpH6Oaav7O8E&s=ANYYN7k1RadTteoQeE8HTGY63MdSQHmyCQ Jan 31 11:06:58 auch Jan 31 11:07:19 ogra_: I booked thought agency Jan 31 11:07:26 well, works :) Jan 31 11:07:30 ah, cool Jan 31 11:07:42 so they know it then, thanks Jan 31 11:07:49 no problem Jan 31 11:08:51 this hotel is nearest to ARM Jan 31 11:09:04 and its ~15-20minutes walk Jan 31 11:09:09 good, thought far from downtown then i guess Jan 31 11:09:31 i.e. dinner options are likely not great Jan 31 11:09:35 oops. google said 7 minutes even Jan 31 11:09:39 ogra_: it is near Jan 31 11:09:47 you just need to know shortcut ;D Jan 31 11:09:53 heh, k Jan 31 11:09:59 i'll ask you then Jan 31 11:10:03 ogra_: use satellite view Jan 31 11:10:18 ogra_: there is a bridge over railway Jan 31 11:10:38 and long sidewalk near the water Jan 31 11:11:03 i guess i'll find my way around, first the booking :) Jan 31 11:11:15 ;) Jan 31 11:11:45 ogra_: so you go to represent ubuntu/arm and me same for linaro Jan 31 11:12:02 likely Jan 31 11:12:08 i'm replacing david Jan 31 11:12:55 ok Jan 31 11:13:13 I land at 11:40 in luton, then bus to cambridge Jan 31 11:13:19 on sunday Jan 31 11:13:33 back on saturday 11:20 from STN Jan 31 11:13:37 hmm, i will likely just get a flight to heathrow Jan 31 11:14:12 longer trip you will have then Jan 31 11:14:24 yep Jan 31 11:14:24 STN has best connection to cambridge Jan 31 11:14:35 direct train Jan 31 11:14:41 but no good lufthansa connection to FRA Jan 31 11:14:52 use cheaper airline? Jan 31 11:15:18 cheaper ? Jan 31 11:15:32 LH flies me to LHR for 98€ roundtrip Jan 31 11:16:26 even with train thats a cheapo Jan 31 11:16:50 ;) Jan 31 11:17:11 you have good local airport ;D Jan 31 11:17:52 ~curse me Jan 31 11:18:06 hotel -> arm is 30-35 minutes by walk. 7 by car :D Jan 31 11:18:17 anyway near enough Jan 31 11:18:30 no, when i lived in cologne i had a good local airport Jan 31 11:18:52 it's germanwings home base Jan 31 11:19:08 ok Jan 31 11:19:11 they offer CGN->STN for 5€ Jan 31 11:19:29 ogra_: http://wiki.openembedded.org/index.php/Oedem/2009#Travel will be useful for you Jan 31 11:20:01 @ is €? Jan 31 11:20:22 switch to de_DE.UTF-8 finally? Jan 31 11:21:00 hmm, i thought i had utf-8 everywhere Jan 31 11:21:43 ;D Jan 31 11:23:02 € Jan 31 11:23:08 does it work now ? Jan 31 11:24:07 yes Jan 31 11:24:13 AHA Jan 31 11:24:15 oops Jan 31 11:24:19 sorry, caps Jan 31 11:26:25 dunno why there was IRC preset as charset by default Jan 31 12:49:44 ogra: so I poked cjwatson, and thought it over. I agree that your right with a new target and not reusing base (which also lets us break out a new seed easily if we need it). I just think we should call it something else beside 'headless' Jan 31 12:50:16 we could extend it to headless-chicken ;) Jan 31 12:50:32 make a name suggestion, i'm fine with anything thats descriptive Jan 31 12:50:49 its janimo's spec he should make the final call Jan 31 12:51:31 ogra: probably 'ubuntu-cli'. The reason I don't like headless is it could be confused with netboot or LTSP stuff Jan 31 12:52:06 i dont see where that would clash name widse Jan 31 12:52:11 *wise Jan 31 12:53:39 ltsp doesnt have any headless option or anything that would even sound remotely like headless Jan 31 12:54:18 i would probably call it ubuntu-minimal-server or so ... but that would clash even more than headless Jan 31 12:56:00 the name i'd like most would be ubuntu-core ... but that would clash with a product description mdz works on Jan 31 13:04:23 NCommander, any name is fine, headless is used by linaro for their current dev image though Jan 31 13:04:52 NCommander, I am wondering whether preinstalled should be in the name for further clarification Jan 31 13:05:08 * NCommander mutters something about the hardest part of implementing a spec is naming the name things Jan 31 13:05:23 as for cli wouldn't that be confused with Mono (CLI) centric build? No need to be overly tesre in naming these images Jan 31 13:05:57 NCommander, indeed, that is why I said I am fien with any names but want to get it done, and then polish (naming, etc) Jan 31 13:05:59 personally, both ogra and I wantedto call preinstalled images 'oem', but we nuked that for obvious reasons Jan 31 13:06:11 indeed Jan 31 13:06:22 I thikn headless-preinstalled is pretty descriptive Jan 31 13:06:44 * rsalveti agrees Jan 31 13:06:48 adding preinstalled will add duplication, preinstalled is in the patch already Jan 31 13:06:54 *path Jan 31 13:06:58 hm, ok then Jan 31 13:06:59 damned finger memory Jan 31 13:07:07 well but in project names at least in debian-cd Jan 31 13:07:34 ubuntu-mid, toc, kubuntu-mobile , ubuntu-netbook are quite nondescriptive imo Jan 31 13:07:53 at least this would convey it is preinstalled and not cd and that it is cmd line only Jan 31 13:08:06 anyway I'll continue on it today after pathc piloting is over Jan 31 13:09:41 imho ubuntu-core would be great, but that would need signoff from mdz Jan 31 13:09:52 (since he refers to -core with product stuff) Jan 31 13:11:45 core is vague Jan 31 13:12:25 so it minimal and standard. headless is clearer imho as it actually says omething about a techincal characteristic - the other can be interpreded very differently Jan 31 13:32:42 * NCommander would actually would have liked to call it 'base' but that was already taken ... Jan 31 13:40:06 rsalveti, yo ... how are your CDs ... the .38 kernel seems to be in the i386/amd64 kernel and they are looking good Jan 31 13:42:45 apw: our latest image is still from friday, so no images to test atm Jan 31 13:43:13 apw: but let me try the latest deb available Jan 31 13:43:43 Finished on 2011-01-29 (took 19 hours, 36 minutes, 38.4 seconds) Jan 31 13:43:44 wow Jan 31 13:43:53 rsalveti, ? Jan 31 13:44:01 what took 19 hours? Jan 31 13:44:09 the latest kernel for armel Jan 31 13:44:15 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/2.6.38-1.28/+buildjob/2228976 Jan 31 13:44:23 rsalveti, oh yeah ... thats why we whine when you want new flavours Jan 31 13:47:03 rsalveti, thats why i wanted the linaro kernel ... got tired of the whining ;) Jan 31 13:47:21 :-) Jan 31 13:47:41 apw, we're waiting for mvo to fix update-manager before we can attempt a new image build Jan 31 13:47:57 he's on it though, should be fixed today Jan 31 13:49:45 and GrueMaster is also getting his new xm today probably Jan 31 13:49:47 ogra, heh he is cutting it fine for the freeze :) Jan 31 13:50:14 well ... Jan 31 13:50:40 having images before the freeze really helps fixing issues :) Jan 31 13:51:00 rsalveti, so i am assuming this kernel will be as good for you as the ones we hand made and tested late last week... in which case we are planning on this being the alpha-2 kernenl Jan 31 13:51:15 apw: yeah, should be fine Jan 31 14:17:21 is there a userspace usb ethernet gadget driver for armel? the kernel level driver for my platform is horribly broken Jan 31 16:44:14 apw: 2.6.38-1-omap seems to be working fine, the only annoying thing is the call trace for the erratum, that will probably be fixed later Jan 31 16:44:24 once upstream gets the changes Jan 31 16:46:44 rsalveti, yeah, nothing major then good :) Jan 31 16:46:54 yup :-) Jan 31 17:03:28 ogra: rsalveti: alsa-1.0.24 was released today. http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Changes_v1.0.23_v1.0.24 Jan 31 17:03:33 UCM is in. Jan 31 17:03:39 cool Jan 31 17:50:56 GrueMaster: will that make Natty ? Jan 31 17:53:37 TheUni: I am hoping it will get pulled in after A2 this week (too late for A2). Jan 31 17:54:04 ok Jan 31 17:54:24 I'll hunt down our alsa guy and see. Jan 31 17:54:51 have they figured out a sane way for applications to detect available cards yet? Jan 31 17:56:33 hmm, seems that what ucm is? Jan 31 18:00:30 I think UCM is more for a sane way to configure the hardware than through the drivers directly. For example, the Beagle & Panda boards have audio codecs that contain a lot more connections than are available to the user. UCM allows you to map the correct ports for the board in userspace so apps (pulseaudio) will just work. Jan 31 18:08:35 GrueMaster: seems there's a serious lack of information. Alsa has provided a changelog and that's all? I have to hope more is coming Jan 31 18:10:50 http://www.slimlogic.co.uk/?p=40 Jan 31 18:11:09 TheUni, ^^^ Jan 31 18:13:14 It's mostly in alsa-lib. UCM is mainly an API interface. Very little is needed at the driver level. Jan 31 18:14:11 There is also a utility in alsa-utils, but apps can interface directly with the ucm api in alsa-libs. Jan 31 18:47:09 ubuntu maverick on beagleboard c4: the problem when opens webrowser the system is freezing... i've got http://rcn-ee.net/deb/rootfs/maverick/ubuntu-10.10-r3-minimal-armel.tar.7z an then done sudo apt-get install xfce4 gdm xubuntu-gdm-theme xubuntu-artwork xserver-xorg-video-omap3 Jan 31 18:48:39 canonical image hasn't that problem - browser is working well here Jan 31 18:50:36 sonny80, anything in dmesg during the freeze? are you using swaP? Jan 31 18:51:03 yes i add swap Jan 31 18:51:15 what web browser? Jan 31 18:51:31 for ex. when watching google maps in firefiox or chrome Jan 31 18:52:26 did you run the script "get_chrome.sh" in /boot/uboot/tools/ (for me it seem's faster then ubuntu's firefox/chrome in the repo's..) Jan 31 18:53:24 i didnt ran this script Jan 31 18:53:40 i think that problem not in the browser Jan 31 18:53:57 cause canonical image working good Jan 31 18:54:14 well, the only difference is the kernel. Jan 31 18:54:39 yes... can you fix the problem? :) Jan 31 18:56:01 that's why i roll back to angstrom Jan 31 18:56:59 sonny80, no idea what the problem actually is, since your 'report' is too limited... i'd say use the "get_chrome.sh" script, compare with the builtin firefox/chrome.. Jan 31 18:57:11 then we can go from theire Jan 31 18:57:33 midori had the same problem... Jan 31 18:58:11 ok what step i need to do to help you with testing? Jan 31 18:58:29 run the script... then go to engadget.com, is it smooth? Jan 31 18:59:06 (on my bx/c4/xm running maverick it is..) Jan 31 19:00:00 ok i need to reinstall ubuntu instead angstrom it will be tommorow Jan 31 19:00:29 ah, figured you still had it installed.. Jan 31 19:01:08 on angstrom it is really smooth Jan 31 19:01:24 next time you should keep the sd card as is, it's impossible to troubleshoot anything... Jan 31 19:01:42 angstrom is much lighter embedded os.. ubuntu is getting there.. Jan 31 19:01:56 can i send you my SD image with troble? Jan 31 19:02:44 why? it sounds like you were using my base maverick image with xfce installed.. Jan 31 19:03:07 yep Jan 31 19:03:19 i also try lxde, icewm Jan 31 19:03:29 i'm using the same image today, debugging dspbridge and sgx stuff.. Jan 31 19:03:31 the same difficulties Jan 31 19:03:51 lxde pulles in too much gnome last i checked, that'll bog down the system too.. Jan 31 19:04:13 xfce is the best choice? Jan 31 19:04:40 sofar in my exeperience yes.. keep it simple the less lib's the easier it is for the beagle.. Jan 31 19:05:40 ok... another question - is it possible to have 24 bit color depth on beagleboard c4 via DVI out? Jan 31 19:06:17 16 bit is looking not perfect Jan 31 19:06:21 sure, but it'll take more cpu cycles... Jan 31 19:06:30 the neon unit is currently doing the work.. Jan 31 19:07:25 ok... i heard that SGX cannot work with more than 16 bit is it true? Jan 31 19:07:50 doesn't matter, for 2d graphics the SGX on the omap3 is actually slower then the neon.. Jan 31 19:08:07 hmm... interesting Jan 31 19:08:47 ok tommorow i will give you detailed information of my problem Jan 31 19:09:46 other thing to check, speed of sd card on the beagle.. "sudo hdparm -tT /dev/mmcblk0p2" Jan 31 19:10:18 ok Jan 31 19:10:34 wget http://rcn-ee.homeip.net:81/dl/updates/omap-image-builder/tools/setup_sdcard.sh is it neccesarry to run it? Jan 31 19:11:07 are you building the image manually then? Jan 31 19:11:55 (the script set's up the correct clock speed, in this case your c4 might only be running at 500Mhz vs 720..) Jan 31 19:11:58 i repeat step by step instructions from http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu Jan 31 19:12:32 that's fine, the manual step by step is the same as the script.. Jan 31 19:13:12 thank you! tomorrow will be next questions Jan 31 19:22:49 rsalveti: Does xloader/uboot for omap4 support the different sysboot modes on the panda? Was wondering if I could configure a different boot mode for experimenting. Jan 31 19:27:20 GrueMaster: that depends on what you'd like to do Jan 31 19:27:27 and how are you planning to boot your panda Jan 31 19:28:26 I was hoping that I could configure mode 1101 (UART/MMC1). Right now it is configured for 101 (USB/MMC1). Jan 31 19:30:30 GrueMaster: you can, but then you need to write the x-loader and u-boot with uart Jan 31 19:30:35 (would be easier if the board used 0ohm resistors). Jan 31 19:30:37 like we have for beagle Jan 31 19:30:54 I believe someone already did the work to boot from usb Jan 31 19:30:56 using micro usb Jan 31 19:30:56 Ok, so not currently supported. That's what I needed to know. Jan 31 19:34:15 well, probably need some dev to make it work Jan 31 19:34:23 but possible, for sure Jan 31 19:34:58 I'll explore it later, after A2. Jan 31 19:35:29 and why uart? guess usb should also work fine for you Jan 31 19:35:52 automation. Jan 31 21:10:40 is anyone familiar with rootstock? i try to build a xubuntu rootfs but it always stalls setting up xulrunner... Jan 31 21:41:31 nicofs: I have seen this also, not sure why it happens though Jan 31 21:48:45 nicofs, on x86 right? it's qemu crashing.. Jan 31 21:49:49 rcn-ee_at_work, but why is it doing that to me?!? Jan 31 21:50:29 it does it to everyone on x86 since lucid... run it on your target arm board and it'll work fine. .;) Jan 31 21:55:49 rcn-ee_at_work: lol, and it will take 100 times longer most likely :D Jan 31 21:55:59 I'm guessing it is of no diff on x64? Jan 31 21:56:20 actually my igepv2 is faster then my quad 64bit on building rootstock.. ;) Jan 31 21:57:33 haha Jan 31 21:57:51 it's native armv7a vs emulated armv7a.. .;) Jan 31 21:57:59 oh right Jan 31 21:58:21 and with thumb stuff thrown in for extra fun.. ;) Jan 31 21:58:22 I thought rootstock just downloaded and installed, didn't realize it had to actually do any arm stuff Jan 31 21:58:58 rcn-ee_at_work, if my target arm board had any internet - no problem Jan 31 22:34:07 Hi guys, I followed the steps here exactly to boot Ubuntu on Panda; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAPMaverickInstall, but when it boots, I get stuck at "Enabling additional executable binary formats binfmt-support" on serial terminal, nothing over DVI on monitor though. Any ideas? Jan 31 22:49:31 Hi ! :) I'm on this page right now : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/DeviceSupport and wondering what you guy would recommend for an arm notebook. There was a lot of stuff presented in CES 2011 so perhaps there are some models you heard of that run ubuntu Flawlessly ? I'm always on the move and I'd like to be able to write code for hours without charging power :) Jan 31 22:53:33 Aureusz, I've seen folk walking around with Ubuntu on the Sharp Netwalker, Genesi Efika MX, and Toshiba ac100. For all of these, it seems some tweaking of kernels is required. Jan 31 22:54:58 I dont mind tweaking kernel, but honsetly, if theres a model that handles things perfectly with an arm ubuntu image... it's better ;p Jan 31 23:01:52 anyone know why I'd get stuck at "Enabling additional executable binary formats binfmt-support" on 10.10 boot on Panda? Jan 31 23:09:03 Aureusz, There's talk about having some for Natty, but I haven't seen anyone commit to one yet. Jan 31 23:16:30 persia, thanks for you answers, I read also that some machines are coming. most would be tablets I think, interesting anyway :) gn Jan 31 23:18:19 or bookreaders Jan 31 23:18:36 ka6sox, What's the difference between a bookreader and a tablet? Jan 31 23:18:57 persia, what the manuf loads on them. Jan 31 23:19:19 And if we consider that the goal is to ignore that, and install Ubuntu on everything? Jan 31 23:19:30 otherwise...from a hardware standpoint? (well at least the Nook) Jan 31 23:19:38 not a bit of difference Jan 31 23:20:13 persia, I"m moving my nook color from Android to Ubuntu....slowly because I'm so busy with the FOSS project I work on :( Jan 31 23:20:22 I suppose one might make a bookreader that was a convertible or a wearable or some such, but yeah, my thought is that "tablet" is a device category and "bookreader" is an application. Jan 31 23:21:01 persia, right... Jan 31 23:21:17 ka6sox, Your earlier work on that inspired me to go look up the specs, but it didn't seem to be quite enough, for me (but then, I'm generally not a tablet person) Jan 31 23:21:18 since I can probably get a kindle or nook app that runs on most things. Jan 31 23:21:35 persia, its CHEAP....and works well. Jan 31 23:21:46 its not a 10" device however. Jan 31 23:21:56 ka6sox, Indeed, but it has to be *better* than my Netwalker to replace it in my pocket. Jan 31 23:22:04 true Jan 31 23:22:27 And it's close, but not quite better (but lots cheaper, and better as a new purchase for folk who like tablets) Jan 31 23:22:32 for now I was looking @ how to do porting...especially of Android devices to Linux. Jan 31 23:23:17 Well, the quick'n'dirty way is to just boot the Android kernel and an Ubuntu userspace. Jan 31 23:23:28 But one usually finds one needs to tweak the kernel a bit afterwards. Jan 31 23:23:42 thats my first approximation...if I ever get time to make this stupid initramfs. Jan 31 23:23:55 The ideal way is to add any necessary hardware support patches to the Ubuntu kernel, and then have a kernel flavour that can be used with Ubuntu on the device. Jan 31 23:24:36 not sure if the patches are mainline yet...and BN didn't separate out "patches" it was a source dump off a Windows Machine. Jan 31 23:27:22 That's unfortunately common. The monolithic patch is usually extracted by diffing against mainline for the reported version, and then one breaks down the components by inspection, and tries to port them to current trunk. Jan 31 23:49:57 persia, I'd LOVE to do that if we could figure out what they started with. Feb 01 00:16:27 ka6sox, It appears to be based of 2.6.29 Feb 01 00:16:58 yes, but we haven't been able to determine which tree it came from. Feb 01 00:17:28 so? Feb 01 00:18:08 I suppose it reduces the porting effort, but I presume you could sensibly look at the diff against mainline 2.6.29, and try to determine which are porting patches. Feb 01 00:18:35 All the SoC-specific stuff ought be mainline, so it's really just the platform stuff that is interesting. Feb 01 00:18:55 ya, its a question of time...but if I could ever get more time I'd have more fun. Feb 01 00:19:03 Heh. Feb 01 00:19:39 I don't know enough about kernel internals, but I suspect there's something on the order of 10-12 files that have any content that is Nook-specific, and isn't covered by the OMAP stuff. Feb 01 00:20:14 And strongly suspect that the porting effort to bring those files to 2.6.38 is unlikely to be heroic. Feb 01 00:20:47 (although I wouldn't expect the result to be as seamless as the current kernel: there's surely some extra hackery present, but those are fixable bugs: the above ought get one booting) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Feb 01 02:59:57 2011